Re: Lucy and weight loss

[Lernermichelle]

Oh, it was removed surgically over a month ago. Her first stone was 
struvite, which we know because S/D prescription food dissolved it. But the 
second stone did not dissolve, so they removed it surgically and analyzed it. 
Now she is on prescription food and I am supposed to do regular urine screens 
(have failed so far to get one from her) and biannual ultrasounds.
Michelle
 
In a message dated 12/7/2005 9:08:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hi Michelle:
  I work for a urologist, and am curious 
  to know what does the vet recommend for the long term treatment of Lucy's 
  bladder stone?  I know that in humans, the stone cause to bladder to be 
  quite irritated, the lining of the bladder is always inflammed,and this 
  can be a cause of infections or painful urination.  Sometimes a 
  symptom of this and other stones in the ureter or kidneys is nausea.  
  Does the vet recommend removing the bladder stone, or just living with 
  it?    
  Sandy

 

Re: Callie...Its sad news

[Terri Brown]

Gee Tad, I'm so sorry.  Hugs to you and Marie.
 
Goodnight, sweet Callie...
 
=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 
furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec & Salome' 
=^..^=
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Tad 
  Burnett 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:27 
  PM
  Subject: Callie...Its sad news
  She was so strong and well just yesterday morning that part of 
  mewanted to believe that she would bounce back but when I found 
  herthis morning on the floor and she did a terrible cry when I picked 
  herup I knew that something was terrible wrong with 
  her... The blood test showed kidney function had stopped and the 
  vetsaid that she had so little blood in her vains that he 
  suspectedinternal bleeding probably in the liver... When I 
  brought her to the vet this morning she could barely holdher head up for a 
  short time and after being at the vets all day andhaving sub Q liquid all 
  day which is probably what kept her aliveshe was even weeker...The vet 
  felt she was probably in pain anddidn't think anything would bring her 
  back so we sent her on aheadto the Rainbow Bridge Callie 
  was a feisty little calico...She was reported at AW to be hardto medicate 
  and when she arrived here we learned that she wouldonly let you touch her 
  for a few seconds and then you better let her go...We learned where the 
  limits were and soon she began to trust us andMarie did better with some 
  of the other AW cats than I but Calliedefinitely chose meNow that I 
  think of it she was never close toany of the other cats but she was always 
  with me whenever I was around...She new when I was putting on clothes to 
  go outside and meow and meowand she would be waiting at the door for me 
  when I came back in...A few time that she did sneak out with me she let me 
  catch her and ifI would tell her NO as I when out she would sit there and 
  wait Right now she would be sleeping on top of the monitor 
  while I amon the computerShe was such a good friend to me and she 
  hadso much personality...She had some hard times during her life 
  butshe was happy and loved here at the end...I only wish she couldhave 
  stayed longerI can't believe she is gone so soon I will miss 
  her for a long time...That leaves 4 of the original 6 from AWOJ 
  has never been atotally healthy kitty...He has had to stay on antibiotics 
  for severalbacterial types of infections and he has never played and raced 
  aroundthe way some of the others do but he has always been a big purr 
  andsnuggle bunAnd antibiotics is easy to keep them going...Both OJ 
  andFred who is my first FeLV+ kitty who gums seem to get infected 
  whenI take him off antibiotics...He only has a few teeth left now...I have 
  hadFred well over 2 years...I have had several worries over Fred and 
  OJand they are both special buddies so I can't complain ... They 
  arestill hereI guess this is just the way it was meant to 
  be Tad and 
Marie

Re: Lucy and weight loss

[Dudes]

Hi Michelle:
I work for a urologist, and am curious to 
know what does the vet recommend for the long term treatment of Lucy's 
bladder stone?  I know that in humans, the stone cause to bladder to be 
quite irritated, the lining of the bladder is always inflammed,and this can 
be a cause of infections or painful urination.  Sometimes a symptom of 
this and other stones in the ureter or kidneys is nausea.  Does the vet 
recommend removing the bladder stone, or just living with it?  
  
Sandy

Re: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[Sherry DeHaan]

Your Moogie wasa beautiful baby.I added my Maizee Grace to the album.She only had one Christmas with me too.  Sherry[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I still cry every time I go to her webpage. I just added her picture to the photos section in the OT group, since I was on her webpage already, it reminded me.     I wrote about that exact fact in my memorial to my Moogie.   Jenn~  Oh, that is so true!  So touching  Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html  Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/Adopt a FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to!~Does your cat have chronic diarrhea that does not
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Re: Now Prayers for Buffy and Questions

[felv]

Liquid in the LUNGS probably is related to FELV (pneumonia), I was asking if 
you were
sure it wasn't just fluid in the abdomen or chest cavity. Here's a few snippets 
off a
few good webpages about FIP. You can find links to the entire webpages on my 
website,
if you want more info.

Wet or effusive FIP
This is the acute form of the disease, where many blood vessels are damaged 
severely
and fluid leaks out of them into the abdomen or the thoracic (chest) cavity. 
When the
blood vessels in the abdomen are affected, the cat's tummy swells up with fluid
called ascites. When the blood vessels in the thorax are damaged fluid leaks 
into the
chest, impairing the ability of the lungs to expand and the cat shows difficulty
breathing.

---

What are the clinical signs of FIP?

FIP has very diverse clinical manifestations, but there are no clinical signs
associated that are unique for the disease. The classic form of the disease, 
often
termed 'wet' FIP is characterised by a build up of yellow fluid within the 
abdomen
(resulting in abdominal distension) and/or chest (resulting in breathing
difficulties). However, the presence of this fluid is not diagnostic for FIP, 
and in
addition a large number of FIP cases will not have any visible fluid build up.
Initial clinical signs are often very vague, consisting of lethargy and loss of
appetite. In some forms of the disease inflammatory lesions in the eye and 
nervous
system can occur, resulting in visual disturbances and abnormal behaviour, a 
wobbly
gait or tremors. The disease is usually rapidly progressive and ultimately 
fatal.

If any fluid is present within either the chest, abdomen or both, analysis of 
this
fluid is one of the most useful tests that can be performed. X-rays of the 
chest and
abdomen, and ultrasound examination of the abdomen are very useful to detect 
very
small amounts of fluid when obvious signs of fluid build up are lacking. This 
fluid
can then be sampled via ultrasound guidance. The fluid is most often (but not 
always)
thick and straw-coloured in appearance, and on analysis has a very high protein
content and low cell count. The presence of fluid in the abdomen does not 
confirm a
diagnosis of FIP as some other diseases can also lead to the build up of similar
fluid. If the fluid is present within both the chest and abdominal cavity, then 
FIP
is even more likely.

-


While the first description of feline infectious peritonitis was reported by 
Dr. Jean
Holzworth in 1963, there are reports of clinical cases that are likely FIP 
going back
to1914. Even though we have known about this virus for a long time, we know
frustratingly little about it. However, much new research has been done in the 
past 5
years that is slowly shedding more light on this ever-present feline health 
problem.
This article is designed to present some of the newer information and change 
some of
the older ideas still found in print and other media.

Feline coronavirus operates differently from any other feline virus in several
important ways: a) systemic antibodies have no protective function for the cat 
and
may play a role in the disease FIP itself b) antibody titres are meaningless for
diagnosis of FIP or prognosis c) a vaccine is available, but there is no 
consensus on
its efficacy or safety

First, some notes on terminology.


  a.. FIP is the term for clinical disease associated with feline coronavirus
infection.
  b.. The common benign form of feline coronavirus is referred to as FECV 
(feline
enteric coronavirus).
  c.. When FECV has mutated into a disease-causing form, it is then referred to 
as
FIPV (feline infectious peritonitis virus).
  d.. Feline coronaviruses in general are referred to as FCoV.
FECV is a very common, highly infectious feline virus. It belongs to the genus
Coronavirus, which has members that infect other species (man, swine, cattle, 
birds,
dogs). The majority of cats with FECV (about 95% or more) remain healthy. But 
in a
small number of cases, FECV infection is the first step in a chain of events 
leading
to FIP. This happens because coronaviruses are made of large numbers of 
nucleotides,
the basic unit of genetic material, and they are very prone to mutations. As a 
virus
reproduces itself, errors are made in copying these nucleotides. The more
nucleotides, the more errors are possible. While most of these errors are 
harmless,
some will have the effect of giving FECV the ability to cause disease. These 
mutant
FECV strains are called FIPV.

Recent research has shown that mutant FECVs arise within an individual cat. 
Thus, we
now know that the vast majority of cats do not "catch" FIP, but they develop it
themselves from their own mutant FECV. Transmission of FIP from cat to cat is
considered to be rare. This fact has cause

RE: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Oh.. Jenn – You are making me cry –
I thought of several faces of my babies when I read it – it’s so
true and it’s so beautiful… 

….and Sickly kitties also know that “saying
good-bye” does not mean that saying good-bye forever – Sickly kitties
know that they will be even closer to us spiritually even if or after they
cross the bridge….

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005
5:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...



 





(And why is it always some of the sweetest cats)





Patti





 





I wrote about that exact fact in my memorial to my Moogie.





 






"  Sickly kitties need more love, more time, more attention, and
more devotion, but they give it all back to you. Sickly kitties snuggle up
under your covers at night because they have a hard time staying warm on their
own. Sickly kitties trust you 100%, because sickly kitties know that you crawl
on your hands and knees on the way to the toilet in the middle of the night
just so you don't step on the sickly kitty stretched across the hall way floor
that doesn't have enough energy (or desire) to move out of your way. Sickly
kitties know that if suddenly their food begins to taste bad and they don't
want to eat it any more, you will go to the grocery store and buy them a carton
of light cream and some ham lunch meat. Sickly kitties know that sudden trips
to the vet to get rehydrated because mom had to be at work for 8 hours and
couldn't be home to force feed water 3 cc's at a time are the norm, and no work
schedule is more important than rehydrating the sickly kitty. Sickly kitties
know that even though they feel really bad, in a few days mom will make it all
better again, and they can enjoy a few more weeks under the covers with mom at
night, a few more weeks walking across mom's keyboard on the weekends. Sickly
kitties know that mom never lies, mom never ignores them, and mom never puts
them in second place. In the end, sickly kitties know that mom will be there
and hold them and tell them everything is OK, and that it's OK to go to sleep,
and as they close their eyes and let go, sickly kitties know that mom loves
them, and always will, and mom knows the love is a mutual feeling.  "








Jenn
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue:
http://ucat.us/adopt.html  
Adopt a FIV+ cat: 
http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/
Adopt a FELV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html
~~~
I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.
Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up
until she earns a free can of formula!
PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!
If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send
them to!
~
Does your cat have chronic diarrhea that does not respond to treatment, or has
your cat been loosely diagnosed as IBD? 
Have you tested for Tritrichomonosis? The test is new, the new drug makes it
curable. 
Ask me today how you can test for Trich!

Re: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[PEC2851]

In a message dated 12/7/05 7:34:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  I wrote about that exact fact in my memorial to my Moogie.
   

Jenn~
Oh, that is so true!
So touching

RE: Advice please

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

And, another option is – can you
keep him in a separate room, somehow?

 









From: Hideyo Yamamoto 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005
5:29 PM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: RE: Advice please



 

Well, That’s a tough decision. 
How feral or friendly is he?  I think another option is to find a home for
him - can you try to find a home for this boy?  I think, it will be better
for him to be an indoor kitty because of his FeLV status (protect him getting
sicker and protect others from FeLV) – I would personally recommend that
option first – I have two feLK kitties and I couldn’t release them
back to wild because I knew they need more care (or will need) than other
healthy kitties) so they are at my house, separated from other kitties. 
But I also know that lots of people on the list mix positives and negatives
– so, #2 also can be an option, though you might want to wait a bit
longer to introduce him to 6 months are their immune system might not be as
established and it will take some time for the vaccine to be effective, I
think..

 

I would hate the option 3) again, because
of his condition --- but it’s better than 4) option – to me # 4 is
not an option..I feel that we have no right to kill this positive one.. and you
don’t know how many more positives are out there.. I just don’t
believe in killing them unless they are in pain and suffering --- 

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of vandalin1
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005
5:05 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Advice please



 



My small rescue group has been trying to help a woman who has been
feeding cats at her trailer park. The first cat she brought in has tested
positive for Felv. Of course the vet recommends euthanization. She already has
three six-month-old cats in her home. The options as I see it are 1) euthanize
2) take home and vaccinate the other cats or 3) take back to the trailer park
and let him free roam again.





 





I cannot make this decision for her and she just wants to keep talking
about what to do. Meanwhile, the cat is in a dog crate in my garage. How
reasonable is it for her to keep the cat and still protect her cats?





 





Anne V
Warner Robins, GA

RE: Advice please

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Well, That’s a tough decision. 
How feral or friendly is he?  I think another option is to find a home for
him - can you try to find a home for this boy?  I think, it will be better
for him to be an indoor kitty because of his FeLV status (protect him getting
sicker and protect others from FeLV) – I would personally recommend that
option first – I have two feLK kitties and I couldn’t release them
back to wild because I knew they need more care (or will need) than other
healthy kitties) so they are at my house, separated from other kitties. 
But I also know that lots of people on the list mix positives and negatives –
so, #2 also can be an option, though you might want to wait a bit longer to
introduce him to 6 months are their immune system might not be as established
and it will take some time for the vaccine to be effective, I think..

 

I would hate the option 3) again, because
of his condition --- but it’s better than 4) option – to me # 4 is
not an option..I feel that we have no right to kill this positive one.. and you
don’t know how many more positives are out there.. I just don’t
believe in killing them unless they are in pain and suffering --- 

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of vandalin1
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005
5:05 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Advice please



 



My small rescue group has been trying to help a woman who has been
feeding cats at her trailer park. The first cat she brought in has tested
positive for Felv. Of course the vet recommends euthanization. She already has
three six-month-old cats in her home. The options as I see it are 1) euthanize
2) take home and vaccinate the other cats or 3) take back to the trailer park
and let him free roam again.





 





I cannot make this decision for her and she just wants to keep talking
about what to do. Meanwhile, the cat is in a dog crate in my garage. How
reasonable is it for her to keep the cat and still protect her cats?





 





Anne V
Warner Robins, GA

Re: Now Prayers for Buffy and Questions

[Tad Burnett]

Jenn...I don't knowAre you suggesting that liquid in the lung cavity 
is not a symptom of FeLV+ ???

My vet thinks it isHow can I tell if its FIP ???
Tad

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I hate to even suggest such a thing, but could it be FIP Tad? Is it IN the 
lungs, or
in the abdomen? FIP is known to go down genetic lines, so related cats are more
likely to develop it if one has already been diagnosed in the past. I'm SURE 
they
were all exposed to Corona at some point in their lives, being with so many 
other
cats at AW, and at your place. Corona doesn't always turn into FIP, only in 
certain
genetically-prone cats.

Jenn

 

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] are you here?

[PEC2851]

Jenn~
That is Sherry, who just lost her Maizee Grace to Felv.  She also has 
started volunteering at a sanctuary, she might be there tonite. (Remember, she 
posted about Arthur, from the sanctuary, and he also just passed...  She has been hit hard 
with sadness due to Felv losses.)
Patti

Advice please

[vandalin1]

My small rescue group has been trying to help a woman who has 
been feeding cats at her trailer park. The first cat she brought in has tested 
positive for Felv. Of course the vet recommends euthanization. She already has 
three six-month-old cats in her home. The options as I see it are 1) euthanize 
2) take home and vaccinate the other cats or 3) take back to the trailer park 
and let him free roam again.
 
I cannot make this decision for her and she just wants to keep 
talking about what to do. Meanwhile, the cat is in a dog crate in my garage. How 
reasonable is it for her to keep the cat and still protect her 
cats?
 
Anne VWarner Robins, GA

RE: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Yep (with a pre-qualification that FIV+
cats are not aggressive/biters and do the appropriate introduction process so
that they won’t feel like they won’t feel like protect themselves –
when they feel fears, they can be aggressive though by nature, they may not…
never never throw multiple cats who are strangers to each other in the same
room without an appropriate slow introduction process whether it’s by using
a screen door or crate.. etc…

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005
4:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...



 



The general consensus, I believe is that it is OK to put a
FIV+/FELV+ cat in with FELV+ cats, and the FELV+ cats should not catch the FIV
from him. The reverse is not true, you do NOT want to put a FELV+ cat in with
FIV+/FELV- cats, because the FIV+ cats ARE likely to catch the FELV from him.






Jenn
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue:
http://ucat.us/adopt.html  
Adopt a FIV+ cat: 
http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/
Adopt a FELV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html
~~~
I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.
Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up
until she earns a free can of formula!
PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!
If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send
them to!
~
Does your cat have chronic diarrhea that does not respond to treatment, or has
your cat been loosely diagnosed as IBD? 
Have you tested for Tritrichomonosis? The test is new, the new drug makes it
curable. 
Ask me today how you can test for Trich!

Re: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[PEC2851]

It's so sad that we are seeing so many cats test positive for both Felv and 
FIV.
In fact, we originally had 2 FIV areas and 2 Felv areas, but we had so many 
cats turn up positive for both, we have a Felv+/FIV+ area also.
(And why is it always some of the sweetest cats)
Patti

Re: Now Prayers for Buffy and Questions

[felv]

I hate to even suggest such a thing, but could it be FIP Tad? Is it IN the 
lungs, or
in the abdomen? FIP is known to go down genetic lines, so related cats are more
likely to develop it if one has already been diagnosed in the past. I'm SURE 
they
were all exposed to Corona at some point in their lives, being with so many 
other
cats at AW, and at your place. Corona doesn't always turn into FIP, only in 
certain
genetically-prone cats.

Jenn
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue:
http://ucat.us/adopt.html
Adopt a FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/
Adopt a FELV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html
~~~
I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must
live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.
Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up 
until she
earns a free can of formula!
PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!
If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send 
them
to!
~
Does your cat have chronic diarrhea that does not respond to treatment, or has 
your
cat been loosely diagnosed as IBD?
Have you tested for Tritrichomonosis? The test is new, the new drug makes it 
curable.
Ask me today how you can test for Trich!



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Re: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[Patricia Lamoretti]

Thanks for the clarification.  That's what I thought.  PAT[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  The general consensus, I believe is that it is OK to put a FIV+/FELV+ cat in with FELV+ cats, and the FELV+ cats should not catch the FIV from him. The reverse is not true, you do NOT want to put a FELV+ cat in with FIV+/FELV- cats, because the FIV+ cats ARE likely to catch the FELV from him.  Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html  Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/Adopt a FELV+
 cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to!~Does your cat have chronic diarrhea that does not respond to treatment, or has your cat been loosely diagnosed as IBD? Have you tested for Tritrichomonosis? The test is new, the new drug makes it curable. Ask me today how you can test for Trich!No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.371 / Virus
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Re: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[felv]

The general consensus, I believe is that it is OK to put a FIV+/FELV+ 
cat in with FELV+ cats, and the FELV+ cats should not catch the FIV from him. 
The reverse is not true, you do NOT want to put a FELV+ cat in with FIV+/FELV- 
cats, because the FIV+ cats ARE likely to catch the FELV from him.
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt 
a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html  Adopt a 
FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/Adopt a 
FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!If 
you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them 
to!~Does 
your cat have chronic diarrhea that does not respond to treatment, or has your 
cat been loosely diagnosed as IBD? Have you tested for Tritrichomonosis? The 
test is new, the new drug makes it curable. Ask me today how you can test 
for Trich!
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RE: FIV/FeLV

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

That's very true,, according to the professor Pedersen at UC Davis, at
least 50 % of FIV positive cats will live normal life span ..which seems
to be right.. I have 6 FIV cats and some are older kitties, but they are
just so healthy (big fat couch potatoes..) and I am very grateful of
it,,, and sometime I forget that they even have FIV...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: FIV/FeLV

and, to be tacky, even if the FeLV get FIV, the FeLV is far more
likely to manifest itself in a negative way before the FIV will

On 12/7/05, Patricia Lamoretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, as I see it, the FIV+ is more likely to contract the FeLV virus
than the
> other way around, I would guess.  That's how I see it and it's very
unlikely
> the FeLV contracts the FIV unless you have a very unhappy household.
> Thanks.  PAT
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 1) I'm so sorry to hear of Callie passing to the bridge Tad. It's a
> heartwrenching experience to have to send them there but Callie was a
lucky
> girl to have a family who fought with her and loved her until the end
and
> who eased her pain when she so needed to let go. She will always be a
part
> of you.
>
>
> 2) In realtion the the FIV/FeLV mixing - Buddy and Minstrel were mixed
in
> the sanctuary and have been together for 2.5 years. Minstrel is FeLV+
and
> Buddy who is FIV+ recently tested FeLV-
>
> Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy & Angel Bramble
>
>
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Re: FIV/FeLV

[TenHouseCats]

and, to be tacky, even if the FeLV get FIV, the FeLV is far more
likely to manifest itself in a negative way before the FIV will

On 12/7/05, Patricia Lamoretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, as I see it, the FIV+ is more likely to contract the FeLV virus than the
> other way around, I would guess.  That's how I see it and it's very unlikely
> the FeLV contracts the FIV unless you have a very unhappy household.
> Thanks.  PAT
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 1) I'm so sorry to hear of Callie passing to the bridge Tad. It's a
> heartwrenching experience to have to send them there but Callie was a lucky
> girl to have a family who fought with her and loved her until the end and
> who eased her pain when she so needed to let go. She will always be a part
> of you.
>
>
> 2) In realtion the the FIV/FeLV mixing - Buddy and Minstrel were mixed in
> the sanctuary and have been together for 2.5 years. Minstrel is FeLV+ and
> Buddy who is FIV+ recently tested FeLV-
>
> Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy & Angel Bramble
>
>
> 
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RE: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[Patricia Lamoretti]

That's my feeling too.  I guess I just wanted to know if I was thinking along the right lines ... thanks for the clarification.  PATHideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Unless the Maine Coon kitty is an aggressive biter, it’s pretty safe to mix him with FelK kitties – I would be more concerned about mixing FelK kitties with FIV kitties (but not feLV positive) kitties as FeLK can be transmitted more easily by casual contact especially among FIV kitties whose immune system is already compromised.  I am on FIV support group and many many people on the list mix their FIV positives with FIV negatives and FIV negatives are not transmitted from FIV positives and they remain negatives -  I have 6 FIV positives and one of the positives is mixed with negatives and am considering another positive into negatives which is a big step too me, and I haven’t done it unless I felt safe about it.. but I am hesitant to mix with FIV positives with FelV positives because of the reason I mentioned
 above.     Hideyo     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patricia LamorettiSent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:54 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...   Thanks Gloria -- I too thought it was more of a problem for the FIV+ kitties.  She seems to think that it would be a problem for the FeLV+ s but
 I guess it's all a matter of how you look at it.  Mixing another virus into the equation is always risky.  Thanks for the info.  PAT[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Hi Pat -I've had an FELV/FIV pos kitty - Mr. Black Kitty, a real beloved cat. He came into my life skinny and sick, but feisty. Found him in 2001, he died in 2002, a year later.I've also asked about mixing FELV and FIV - and I don't think there's any definitive answer, except that both have lowered immune systems, and it might be a problem for the FIV kitties.I give all my FELV kitties .5cc interferon daily as an immune system booster. Give it to my other kitties if they get sick. Different vets charge different prices - I've found a great
 price ($15 for a large bag) and so it's cheap for me.Best of luck,GloriaAt 10:34 AM 12/7/2005, you wrote:>Hi -- I'm new to the group and hope I'm not breaking any rules. This is >my first experience with an FeLV+ cat who is also FIV+. There is this >beautiful orange and white Garfield Maine Coone that needs a home. Rescued >off the streets of Long Island just before the cold snap, I initially had >a home all lined up for this sweet boy but have found him to be FeLV and >FIV+. The home is no longer an option. I received a call from someone >that has FeLV+ cats but is reluctant to mix Buddy Boy into the equation >because of his FIV+ status. I'm running a Western Blot to be sure but what >would be the downside of mixing him into her bunch? I guess I always >worried about mixing FeLV into FIV positive homes ... does anyone have any >information?
 Does anyone know of a FeLV / FIV positive home that has room >for one more? This boy is getting so depressed in a cage. He's at the >vet's office and he must be out by x-mas. Not sure where to look for >potential foster, etc. Thanks for any advice. PAT>>>Yahoo! Personals>Skip the bars and set-ups and >start >using Yahoo! Personals for free   Yahoo! ShoppingFind Great Deals on Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping 
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Now Prayers for Buffy and Questions

[Tad Burnett]

 It never rains but it poursToday Buffy is not acting herself...
She also came from AW and from early records she was pulled
at the same day and very similar condition...Vet recommended
PTSI even wonder if they are litter mates...
 Any way...A trip to the vet revealed fluid in the chestShe now has
pills and will be on interferon...
 
 Both Callie and Buffy and also Jet have seemed so well that my vet

had felt that interferon should be saved for when a problem shows up...
But now that I think of it most of my deaths have gone like Callie...
I am trying to find what was the clue that I missed with Callie...
(Not doing this for a reason to beat myself up but for the next one..)

1st...I think everybody will go on interferon...
2nd..A week or 2 ago I had noticed that Callie who was skin and bones
when I got her had grown her long hair back so it was hard to tell how
much meat she had put on...To look at her she was bordering on overweight
but her backbone still felt a bit bony and her stomach was wide
Even though the vet didn't mention fluid on the chest, the breakdown of the
blood and kidneys and liver were what was doing her in
I suppose the pot belly stomach could have been fluid on the chest and 
perhaps

if I had caught it then there would have been time to have helped Callie to
have longer with me

How does this sound ??  Looking for comments...

Tad

Re: Questions

[wendy]

Thanks!

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a message dated 12/7/2005 12:07:51 PM Pacific
> Standard Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> What does TNR  TRAP NEUTER RELEASE and URI  UPPER
> RESPIRATORY INFECTION stand 
> for?
> 
> Thanks guys.
> Wendy
> 
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FIV/FeLV

[Patricia Lamoretti]

So, as I see it, the FIV+ is more likely to contract the FeLV virus than the other way around, I would guess.  That's how I see it and it's very unlikely the FeLV contracts the FIV unless you have a very unhappy household.  Thanks.  PAT[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  1) I'm so sorry to hear of Callie passing to the bridge Tad. It's a heartwrenching experience to have to send them there but Callie was a lucky girl to have a family who fought with her and loved her until the end and who eased her pain when she so needed to let go. She will always be a part of you.        2) In realtion the the FIV/FeLV mixing - Buddy and Minstrel were mixed in the sanctuary and have been together
 for 2.5 years. Minstrel is FeLV+ and Buddy who is FIV+ recently tested FeLV-     Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy & Angel Bramble
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1) Callie and 2) FIV/FeLV

[Lomaxturtle]

1) I'm so sorry to hear of Callie passing to the bridge Tad. It's a 
heartwrenching experience to have to send them there but Callie was a lucky girl 
to have a family who fought with her and loved her until the end and who eased 
her pain when she so needed to let go. She will always be a part of you.
 
 
2) In realtion the the FIV/FeLV mixing - Buddy and Minstrel were mixed in 
the sanctuary and have been together for 2.5 years. Minstrel is FeLV+ and Buddy 
who is FIV+ recently tested FeLV-
 
Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy & Angel Bramble

Re: eating disorders

[Susan Loesch]

Thanks.  The whole Sofia Pearl situation is such a puzzle, as it sounds like it was with Kobuni.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  My friend wrote back about her cat Kobuni:  "by day 3 we almost always had him admitted and given iv fluids; this was after trying to coax him w/ tuna water, etc - he seemed to do it every 2 years or so but not in his later years - i believe by day 4 cats can do permanent damage to their livers if they dont get fluids"     So I think that once in the hospital and on fluids he must have started eating again.  But no one ever knew why he would do this to begin with.     Michelle

Re: Questions

[TatorBunz]

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Questions

[wendy]

What does TNR and URI stand for?

Thanks guys.
Wendy

--- Presto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Nina, what I meant about "death was the only
> other option" was that there was nowhere else for
> the cats to go other than to stay with us.  Let me
> give you an example.  Last month, I received an
> emergency call about a small group of cats at the
> recycling center in a nearby town.  The Public
> Health Dept. wanted them removed.  They were feral,
> and no one would take them.  It was suggested by
> various visitors that they either be shot or
> poisoned.  The new manager of the center wanted to
> save them, but had received no offers of help
> despite his numerous calls to rescue agencies,
> shelters, and animal control officers.  The town had
> recently been fined fifty-thousand dollars for
> health violations at the center (under the
> management of the previous manager), and the new
> manager didn't want to put out shelters for the cats
> or to make their presence in any way known because
> he could have lost his job.  Four of the five cats
> were kittens.  One of the cats--we think possibly
> the mother--died trapped in a drainage pipe behind a
> refrigerator that had been pushed against it.  The
> cats had to be removed.
> 
> We have the father, two older kittens, and two
> younger kittens, in our study now, undergoing their
> vaccinations and interacting with us when we come in
> to sit at the computer.  They are socializing
> steadily, but only the father is placeable. 
> However, he had a bite wound when he arrived, and is
> on a six-month quarantine. 
> 
> When I initially arrived at the recycle center, a
> captured ten-week-old kitten was inside a cage
> outside in full exposure, with nothing inside the
> cage but an empty food dish.  Her feet had been on
> raw wire mesh for four days and nights.  She was
> crying piteously and had a URI.  The manager had
> good intentions but different values.  It was not a
> situation for TNR.  We had to take them in.
> 
> But I am a strong advocate of TNR, when it is
> possible.  We've assisted with TNR in several
> locations.
> 
> Presto
>  




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Re: Callie...Its sad news

[wendy]

Tad,

I just read your messages about Callie.  I am so sorry
that you lost her.  It was so abrupt, too.  You did
the strong and right thing by helping her over the
bridge when she was in pain that wouldn't be going
away.  It's so hard.  Especially when they are your
close companions and such a part of your everyday
routine.  It breaks my heart that you lost her.  

You and Marie are in my prayers-
Wendy




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Re: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[Patricia Lamoretti]

I'm getting the same response from most but she has to be comfortable with the situation.  I was just curious if I was thinking along the wrong lines.TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  wanted to add that i know of an FIV+ that was mistakenly left in closequarters with a FeLV--he tested positive for FeLV for awhile, but isnow negative and healthy as a horse.On 12/7/05, TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> hi, pat! welcome to this wonderful group of folks. (as i keep> saying, we have to stop meeting this way, guys.)>> i totally agree--i'd put an FIV+ with a FeLV+ with no hesitation> i've known FIVs who have been vaccinated against FeLV to remain FeLV-,> too, but there's lots of questions about risks/benefits in vaccinating> FIV cats--i think
 that everyone has to evaluate their own> circumstances, do the research, and make their own decisions.>> MC>> --> MaryChristine>> AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ: 289856892>--MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
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Re: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[Patricia Lamoretti]

Thanks Gloria --- that was my intial thought and feeling.  Everyone has their own opinions.  I just wish she'd see it our way ...  PAT[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I don't think it would be a problem for the FELV's, mainly the FIV's.GloriaAt 10:54 AM 12/7/2005, you wrote:>Thanks Gloria -- I too thought it was more of a problem for the FIV+ >kitties. She seems to think that it would be a problem for the FeLV+ s >but I guess it's all a matter of how you look at it. Mixing another virus >into the equation is always risky. Thanks for the info. PAT>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:>Hi Pat ->>I've had an FELV/FIV pos kitty - Mr. Black Kitty, a real beloved cat. He>came into my life skinny and sick, but feisty. Found him in 2001, he died>in 2002,
 a year later.>>I've also asked about mixing FELV and FIV - and I don't think there's any>definitive answer, except that both have lowered immune systems, and it>might be a problem for the FIV kitties.>>I give all my FELV kitties .5cc interferon daily as an immune system>booster. Give it to my other kitties if they get sick. Different vets>charge different prices - I've found a great price ($15 for a large bag)>and so it's cheap for me.>>Best of luck,>>Gloria>>>At 10:34 AM 12/7/2005, you wrote:> >Hi -- I'm new to the group and hope I'm not breaking any rules. This is> >my first experience with an FeLV+ cat who is also FIV+. There is this> >beautiful orange and white Garfield Maine Coone that needs a home. Rescued> >off the streets of Long Island just before the cold snap, I initially had> >a home all lined up for this sweet
 boy but have found him to be FeLV and> >FIV+. The home is no longer an option. I received a call from someone> >that has FeLV+ cats but is reluctant to mix Buddy Boy into the equation> >because of his FIV+ status. I'm running a Western Blot to be sure but what> >would be the downside of mixing him into her bunch? I guess I always> >worried about mixing FeLV into FIV positive homes ... does anyone have any> >information? Does anyone know of a FeLV / FIV positive home that has room> >for one more? This boy is getting so depressed in a cage. He's at the> >vet's office and he must be out by x-mas. Not sure where to look for> >potential foster, etc. Thanks for any advice. PAT> >> >> >Yahoo! Personals> >Skip the bars and set-ups and> >start> >using Yahoo! Personals for free>Yahoo! Shopping>Find
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Re: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[Patricia Lamoretti]

Thanks for your input.  PATTenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  hi, pat! welcome to this wonderful group of folks. (as i keepsaying, we have to stop meeting this way, guys.)i totally agree--i'd put an FIV+ with a FeLV+ with no hesitation i've known FIVs who have been vaccinated against FeLV to remain FeLV-,too, but there's lots of questions about risks/benefits in vaccinatingFIV cats--i think that everyone has to evaluate their owncircumstances, do the research, and make their own decisions.MC--MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
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Re: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[TenHouseCats]

wanted to add that i know of an FIV+ that was mistakenly left in close
quarters with a FeLV--he tested positive for FeLV for awhile, but is
now negative and healthy as a horse.

On 12/7/05, TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi, pat! welcome to this wonderful group of folks. (as i keep
> saying, we have to stop meeting this way, guys.)
>
> i totally agree--i'd put an FIV+ with a FeLV+ with no hesitation
> i've known FIVs who have been vaccinated against FeLV to remain FeLV-,
> too, but there's lots of questions about risks/benefits in vaccinating
> FIV cats--i think that everyone has to evaluate their own
> circumstances, do the research, and make their own decisions.
>
> MC
>
> --
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>
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> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>


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Re: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[TenHouseCats]

hi, pat! welcome to this wonderful group of folks. (as i keep
saying, we have to stop meeting this way, guys.)

i totally agree--i'd put an FIV+ with a FeLV+ with no hesitation 
i've known FIVs who have been vaccinated against FeLV to remain FeLV-,
too, but there's lots of questions about risks/benefits in vaccinating
FIV cats--i think that everyone has to evaluate their own
circumstances, do the research, and make their own decisions.

MC

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RE: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Unless the Maine Coon kitty is an aggressive
biter, it’s pretty safe to mix him with FelK kitties – I would be
more concerned about mixing FelK kitties with FIV kitties (but not feLV
positive) kitties as FeLK can be transmitted more easily by casual contact
especially among FIV kitties whose immune system is already compromised.  I am on
FIV support group and many many people on the list mix their FIV positives with
FIV negatives and FIV negatives are not transmitted from FIV positives and they
remain negatives -  I have 6 FIV positives and one of the positives is mixed
with negatives and am considering another positive into negatives which is a
big step too me, and I haven’t done it unless I felt safe about it.. but
I am hesitant to mix with FIV positives with FelV positives because of the
reason I mentioned above.

 

Hideyo

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patricia Lamoretti
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005
9:54 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...



 



Thanks Gloria -- I too thought it was more of a problem for the FIV+
kitties.  She seems to think that it would be a problem for the FeLV+ s
but I guess it's all a matter of how you look at it.  Mixing another virus
into the equation is always risky.  Thanks for the info.  PAT

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 

Hi Pat -

I've had an FELV/FIV pos kitty - Mr. Black Kitty, a real beloved cat. He 
came into my life skinny and sick, but feisty. Found him in 2001, he died 
in 2002, a year later.

I've also asked about mixing FELV and FIV - and I don't think there's any 
definitive answer, except that both have lowered immune systems, and it 
might be a problem for the FIV kitties.

I give all my FELV kitties .5cc interferon daily as an immune system 
booster. Give it to my other kitties if they get sick. Different vets 
charge different prices - I've found a great price ($15 for a large bag) 
and so it's cheap for me.

Best of luck,

Gloria


At 10:34 AM 12/7/2005, you wrote:
>Hi -- I'm new to the group and hope I'm not breaking any rules. This is 
>my first experience with an FeLV+ cat who is also FIV+. There is this 
>beautiful orange and white Garfield Maine Coone that needs a home. Rescued 
>off the streets of Long Island just before
the cold snap, I initially had 
>a home all lined up for this sweet boy but have found him to be FeLV and 
>FIV+. The home is no longer an option. I received a call from someone 
>that has FeLV+ cats but is reluctant to mix Buddy Boy into the equation 
>because of his FIV+ status. I'm running a Western Blot to be sure but what 
>would be the downside of mixing him into her bunch? I guess I always 
>worried about mixing FeLV into FIV positive homes ... does anyone have any 
>information? Does anyone know of a FeLV / FIV positive home that has room 
>for one more? This boy is getting so depressed in a cage. He's at the 
>vet's office and he must be out by x-mas. Not sure where to look for 
>potential foster, etc. Thanks for any advice. PAT
>
>
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>start

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Re: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[gblane]

I don't think it would be a problem for the FELV's, mainly the FIV's.

Gloria


At 10:54 AM 12/7/2005, you wrote:
Thanks Gloria -- I too thought it was more of a problem for the FIV+ 
kitties.  She seems to think that it would be a problem for the FeLV+ s 
but I guess it's all a matter of how you look at it.  Mixing another virus 
into the equation is always risky.  Thanks for the info.  PAT


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Pat -

I've had an FELV/FIV pos kitty - Mr. Black Kitty, a real beloved cat. He
came into my life skinny and sick, but feisty. Found him in 2001, he died
in 2002, a year later.

I've also asked about mixing FELV and FIV - and I don't think there's any
definitive answer, except that both have lowered immune systems, and it
might be a problem for the FIV kitties.

I give all my FELV kitties .5cc interferon daily as an immune system
booster. Give it to my other kitties if they get sick. Different vets
charge different prices - I've found a great price ($15 for a large bag)
and so it's cheap for me.

Best of luck,

Gloria


At 10:34 AM 12/7/2005, you wrote:
>Hi -- I'm new to the group and hope I'm not breaking any rules. This is
>my first experience with an FeLV+ cat who is also FIV+. There is this
>beautiful orange and white Garfield Maine Coone that needs a home. Rescued
>off the streets of Long Island just before the cold snap, I initially had
>a home all lined up for this sweet boy but have found him to be FeLV and
>FIV+. The home is no longer an option. I received a call from someone
>that has FeLV+ cats but is reluctant to mix Buddy Boy into the equation
>because of his FIV+ status. I'm running a Western Blot to be sure but what
>would be the downside of mixing him into her bunch? I guess I always
>worried about mixing FeLV into FIV positive homes ... does anyone have any
>information? Does anyone know of a FeLV / FIV positive home that has room
>for one more? This boy is getting so depressed in a cage. He's at the
>vet's office and he must be out by x-mas. Not sure where to look for
>potential foster, etc. Thanks for any advice. PAT
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RE: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[Patricia Lamoretti]

Thanks.  PATChris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Angel’s Gate on LI takes FELV & FIV--- they have waiting list though….   Chris  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patricia LamorettiSent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:35 AMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...     Hi -- I'm new to the group and hope I'm not breaking any rules.  This is my first experience with an FeLV+ cat who is also FIV+.  There is this beautiful orange and white Garfield Maine Coone that needs a home. Rescued off the streets of Long Island just before the cold snap, I initially had a home all lined up for this sweet boy but have found him to be FeLV and FIV+.  The home is no longer an option. I received a call from someone that has FeLV+ cats but is reluctant to mix Buddy Boy into the equation because of his FIV+ status. I'm running a Western Blot to be sure but what would be the downside of mixing him into her bunch? I guess I always worried about mixing FeLV into FIV positive homes ... does anyone have any information? Does anyone know of a FeLV / FIV positive home that has room for one more? This boy is getting so depressed in a cage. He's at the vet's office and he must be out by x-mas.  Not sure where
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Re: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[Patricia Lamoretti]

Thanks Gloria -- I too thought it was more of a problem for the FIV+ kitties.  She seems to think that it would be a problem for the FeLV+ s but I guess it's all a matter of how you look at it.  Mixing another virus into the equation is always risky.  Thanks for the info.  PAT[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi Pat -I've had an FELV/FIV pos kitty - Mr. Black Kitty, a real beloved cat. He came into my life skinny and sick, but feisty. Found him in 2001, he died in 2002, a year later.I've also asked about mixing FELV and FIV - and I don't think there's any definitive answer, except that both have lowered immune systems, and it might be a problem for the FIV kitties.I give all my FELV kitties .5cc interferon daily as an immune system booster. Give it to my other kitties if they get sick.
 Different vets charge different prices - I've found a great price ($15 for a large bag) and so it's cheap for me.Best of luck,GloriaAt 10:34 AM 12/7/2005, you wrote:>Hi -- I'm new to the group and hope I'm not breaking any rules. This is >my first experience with an FeLV+ cat who is also FIV+. There is this >beautiful orange and white Garfield Maine Coone that needs a home. Rescued >off the streets of Long Island just before the cold snap, I initially had >a home all lined up for this sweet boy but have found him to be FeLV and >FIV+. The home is no longer an option. I received a call from someone >that has FeLV+ cats but is reluctant to mix Buddy Boy into the equation >because of his FIV+ status. I'm running a Western Blot to be sure but what >would be the downside of mixing him into her bunch? I guess I always >worried about mixing FeLV into FIV positive homes ... does anyone
 have any >information? Does anyone know of a FeLV / FIV positive home that has room >for one more? This boy is getting so depressed in a cage. He's at the >vet's office and he must be out by x-mas. Not sure where to look for >potential foster, etc. Thanks for any advice. PAT>>>Yahoo! Personals>Skip the bars and set-ups and >start >using Yahoo! Personals for free
	
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RE: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[Chris]

Angel’s Gate on LI takes FELV &
FIV--- they have waiting list though….

 



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Subject: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon
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Hi -- I'm new to the group and hope I'm not breaking
any rules.  This is my first experience with an FeLV+ cat who is also
FIV+.  There is this beautiful orange and white Garfield Maine Coone that
needs a home. Rescued off the streets of Long Island just before the cold snap,
I initially had a home all lined up for this sweet boy but have found him to be
FeLV and FIV+.  The home is no longer an option. I received a
call from someone that has FeLV+ cats but is reluctant to mix Buddy Boy into
the equation because of his FIV+ status. I'm running a Western Blot to be sure
but what would be the downside of mixing him into her bunch? I guess I always
worried about mixing FeLV into FIV positive homes ... does anyone have any
information? Does anyone know of a FeLV / FIV positive home that has room for
one more? This boy is getting so depressed in a cage. He's at the vet's office
and he must be out by x-mas.  Not sure where to look for potential foster,
etc.  Thanks for any advice.  PAT











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Re: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[gblane]

Hi Pat -

I've had an FELV/FIV pos kitty - Mr. Black Kitty, a real beloved cat.  He 
came into my life skinny and sick, but feisty.  Found him in 2001, he died 
in 2002, a year later.


I've also asked about mixing FELV and FIV - and I don't think there's any 
definitive answer, except that both have lowered immune systems, and it 
might be a problem for the FIV kitties.


I give all my FELV kitties .5cc interferon daily as an immune system 
booster.  Give it to my other kitties if they get sick.  Different vets 
charge different prices - I've found a great price ($15 for a large bag) 
and so it's cheap for me.


Best of luck,

Gloria


At 10:34 AM 12/7/2005, you wrote:
Hi -- I'm new to the group and hope I'm not breaking any rules.  This is 
my first experience with an FeLV+ cat who is also FIV+.  There is this 
beautiful orange and white Garfield Maine Coone that needs a home. Rescued 
off the streets of Long Island just before the cold snap, I initially had 
a home all lined up for this sweet boy but have found him to be FeLV and 
FIV+.  The home is no longer an option. I received a call from someone 
that has FeLV+ cats but is reluctant to mix Buddy Boy into the equation 
because of his FIV+ status. I'm running a Western Blot to be sure but what 
would be the downside of mixing him into her bunch? I guess I always 
worried about mixing FeLV into FIV positive homes ... does anyone have any 
information? Does anyone know of a FeLV / FIV positive home that has room 
for one more? This boy is getting so depressed in a cage. He's at the 
vet's office and he must be out by x-mas.  Not sure where to look for 
potential foster, etc.  Thanks for any advice.  PAT



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FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...

[Patricia Lamoretti]

  Hi -- I'm new to the group and hope I'm not breaking any rules.  This is my first experience with an FeLV+ cat who is also FIV+.  There is this beautiful orange and white Garfield Maine Coone that needs a home. Rescued off the streets of Long Island just before the cold snap, I initially had a home all lined up for this sweet boy but have found him to be FeLV and FIV+.  The home is no longer an option. I received a call from someone that has FeLV+ cats but is reluctant to mix Buddy Boy into the equation because of his FIV+ status. I'm running a Western Blot to be sure but what would be the downside of mixing him into her bunch? I guess I always worried about mixing FeLV into FIV positive homes ... does anyone have any information? Does anyone know of a FeLV / FIV positive home that has room for one more? This boy is getting so depressed in a cage. He's at the vet's office and he must be out by x-mas.  Not sure where
 to look for potential foster, etc.  Thanks for any advice.  PAT
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eating disorders

[Lernermichelle]

My friend wrote back about her cat Kobuni:  "by day 3 we almost always 
had him admitted and given iv fluids; this was after trying to coax him w/ 
tuna water, etc - he seemed to do it every 2 years or so but not in his 
later years - i believe by day 4 cats can do permanent damage to their 
livers if they dont get fluids"
 
So I think that once in the hospital and on fluids he must have started 
eating again.  But no one ever knew why he would do this to begin 
with.
 
Michelle

Re: General Thanks and Questions

[Lernermichelle]

Tad,
   I am overwhelmed both by your loss of Callie after so many 
losses, and by finding out how many cats you have saved and given a good life 
to.  It is truly amazing.  I hope that you are able to know very 
clearly in your heart, through all the losses, what an amazing gift you have 
given and are giving these cats.  I know that it is hard to truly feel that 
when you are losing them and feeling so powerless to help them in the end, but 
from the outside it is completely clear.  Thank you for doing so much good 
in this world.
 
Michelle

Re: Belinda's Greeting; Our Location

[Belinda Sauro]

   Hi Presto,
  I'm in Sumner, between Seattle and Tacoma.  Nice little town although 
we sure are growing, almost too much now   :(


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Re: Callie...Its sad news

[Mari Kolbe]

Tad and Marie:
 
My sincerest condolences to you both upon the loss of your furchild, Callie.  I have been caring for these special creatures for over 40 years and each loss is as heartbreaking and painful as my first loss.  The time we have to share with them is way too short, but were it not for you and Marie, Callie and the other AW kitties, would not have known what it is like to share a loving home.  Bless you for opening your home and hearts to these special babies and bless you for giving Callie the final gift of love - a dignified and loving passage to a better world.  While Callie's earthly body is gone, her spirit will always be intertwined with yours.

 
Run with the wind Angel Callie.
 
/mari and the Mooseheart Mumpkees... 
On 12/6/05, Tad Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
She was so strong and well just yesterday morning that part of mewanted to believe that she would bounce back but when I found her
this morning on the floor and she did a terrible cry when I picked herup I knew that something was terrible wrong with her...-- /mari (SpiritCat)Until there are none, adopt one.SpiritCat and the Mooseheart Mumpkees
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Re: Callie...Its sad news

[Gloria Lane]

Tad and Marie,  I am so sorry for your sad loss of Callie.  What a  
sweet little calico - how wonderful that she had a good life with  
you, a real blessing.


Gloria

RE: Callie...Its sad news

[Doljan, Joan]

Tad and Marie,

I am so sorry for your loss.  Callie, got to live a loving life, though,
much too short. I wanted to thank you both again, for taking in those with
FELV and allowing again and again your heart to be broken.

Joan

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Subject: Callie...Its sad news


She was so strong and well just yesterday morning that part of me wanted to
believe that she would bounce back but when I found her this morning on the
floor and she did a terrible cry when I picked her up I knew that something
was terrible wrong with her...
 
The blood test showed kidney function had stopped and the vet said that she
had so little blood in her vains that he suspected internal bleeding
probably in the liver...
 
When I brought her to the vet this morning she could barely hold her head up
for a short time and after being at the vets all day and having sub Q liquid
all day which is probably what kept her alive she was even weeker...The vet
felt she was probably in pain and didn't think anything would bring her back
so we sent her on ahead to the Rainbow Bridge
 
Callie was a feisty little calico...She was reported at AW to be hard to
medicate and when she arrived here we learned that she would only let you
touch her for a few seconds and then you better let her go... We learned
where the limits were and soon she began to trust us and Marie did better
with some of the other AW cats than I but Callie definitely chose meNow
that I think of it she was never close to any of the other cats but she was
always with me whenever I was around... She new when I was putting on
clothes to go outside and meow and meow and she would be waiting at the door
for me when I came back in... A few time that she did sneak out with me she
let me catch her and if I would tell her NO as I when out she would sit
there and wait
 
Right now she would be sleeping on top of the monitor while I am on the
computerShe was such a good friend to me and she had so much
personality...She had some hard times during her life but she was happy and
loved here at the end...I only wish she could have stayed longerI can't
believe she is gone so soon  I will miss her for a long time...

That leaves 4 of the original 6 from AWOJ has never been a totally
healthy kitty...He has had to stay on antibiotics for several bacterial
types of infections and he has never played and raced around the way some of
the others do but he has always been a big purr and snuggle bunAnd
antibiotics is easy to keep them going...Both OJ and Fred who is my first
FeLV+ kitty who gums seem to get infected when I take him off
antibiotics...He only has a few teeth left now...I have had Fred well over 2
years...I have had several worries over Fred and OJ and they are both
special buddies so I can't complain ... They are still hereI guess this
is just the way it was meant to be
 
Tad and Marie