RE: Sorry
With it being a long weekend I probably can't get back in to see the vet until Tuesday. They did say they would refill his antibiotic. I am hoping they are open today so I can do that. I still have the gentmycin drops and am giving him those. He did have an ulcerated cornea is the other eye which I assume is why he did not get the steroid drops for that eye. It has mostly cleared up but now his good eye is infected. He would be blind if he lost site in this eye. He is not eating well. Maybe he misses Tiny. They did not get along but he still might be missing him. I don't know how you do it. This is very draining emotionally and financially. I can't get the best care because I cannot afford it. I went back to the archives and I will print Bandy's treatment for the vet to see. I have an appt for his immunoregulin shot on Friday. Hopefully I can talk with Dr Staunton then. Sally Davis _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry Roach Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:01 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Sorry I am probably getting in on the tail end of this, but I did see anterior uveitis mentioned.. Bandy had this..If you will go check, the treatment that Bandy did worked...I talked to his eye specialist as recent as last Fri. as Bandy was to get check-up for eyes 1st of Jan..His spec was very pleased with his progress.. Back when I first took him...they did a toxo test...sent it off to Univ. of Colo..instead of Texas A and M..to check for that..Bandy was negative on that so we continued on with the treatment and it worked... We did frequently check for ulcers on the eye surface as the steroids will irritate that alot and you can't use them while an ulcer is present... I tell you one thing though...Bandy regained his sight after treatment was started. He would have remained on those drops the rest of his life anyway, but we went from 4 drops per eye a day to 1 drop every 3 or 4 days...A remarkable improvement... Please check the archives for Bandy's treatment and I hope this will help.. you must have regular glaucoma check ups though for rest of pets life..as the steroids can cause this with long term use... Kerry, Angel Bandy and Inky __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Hi Kelley, Welcome to the world of How the heck am I going to overcome all that's happened to this poor aggressive cat?. The key is patience, love and respect, with a heavy emphasis on patience. Some of these poor scared individuals are more difficult than others, but with understanding of the trauma they've been through, you can eventually gain their trust. Everyone's suggestions have been really good. (Thank you so much Chris for the detailed description of how you dealt with Romeo's acclimation. Well done!). Keeping Caroline in a confined, smaller space at first will help her feel safer. She's hiding in the sink because it's the best place she's found in the bathroom to protect herself from intruders, (that's you my dear). It's got walls of a sort and she has a good vantage point to defend herself. Do make sure you give her someplace more appropriate and protected to hide. Think of it as her fort. I understand the thought about not free feeding her, she does need to know the food comes from you, but in her current state I think it's better to keep dry down all the time, (do you know what she was being fed before?), and then offering her something incredibly yummy when you are in there with her. She's going to know the food is coming from you, she's scared, not stupid. That way she will come to know her new home provides everything she needs and you don't want her to go hungry if she doesn't have to. Heaven knows she has enough stress, don't add hunger to the equation. Make it as comfortable as possible in her bathroom, shower someplace else, if you can. I usually put a very soft bed down on the floor to encourage them to venture out of their safe place for more than food, you can put an article of clothing on top to get her used to your smell. A scratching pad or post, (if it will fit), will eventually help her burn off some anxiety too. The RR and Feliway can't hurt and just might help, (spray the Feliway on articles away from her presence, sometimes the sound of the spray sounds like hissing to them). If you do decide to give her a portion of antihistamine, wrap a bit of pill pocket around it and slip it into her food, don't try to pill her in the state she's in. I would wait on trying to drug her though, she needs her wits about her to figure out that she's really okay, that you are a good guy and she doesn't have anything to worry about. The eye contact and body language suggestions are good. You don't want to be pushy with her at all. Let her decide on her own when and if to approach you. Move very slowly and deliberately. Sit on the floor as far from her as you can in the confined space and bring a book to read. After she begins to get used to your presence, start to read aloud to her, or sing her a soft and gentle song with her name in the lyrics. Bring some treats to toss her way, if she doesn't take them in your presence, leave them on the floor for her to find later. Give her a routine she can count on. Feed, socialize, clean the litter box all at the same time each day. I usually bring a sleeping bag and pillow in at night to say goodnight. Shut the light and get as comfortable as possible, eventually, she'll come and check you out when she thinks you are sleeping. Talk to her and tell her what you are going to do when you are with her. I'm so glad to hear that you are already considering keeping her. What a lucky girl to have found such a compassionate rescuer. Let her know that she will never go through this sort of thing again, that you will take your cue from her about whether or not your's will be her forever home. Poor little girl, she's been through so much and the trauma is far from over. Shame on her former human, help her understand that we're not all so unconcerned about responsibility to our friends. The very best to both of you. Please let us know how Caroline is doing, Nina Kelley Saveika wrote: Hi guys, I took in an owner surrendered cat last night. Most of my rescue friends love taking in owner surrendered cats because they generally have at least some medical history. I got this cat in, and she is *extremely aggressive*. She acts completely feral. I'm not able to get within a foot of her at the most. I have her in the bathroom by herself in hopes she'll calm down. The previous owner states the cat was friendly with her and never attacked any visitors. However, the paperwork from the vet lists aggression as a condition going back at least 4 years. Any ideas? I think this is going to become one of my cats. I can't adopt out a cat I know to be aggressive. At this point, if she needed medical attention I'd need to trap her to take her in . Has anyone ever dealt successfully with a cat like this? If I didn't know better I'd swear she was feral and had never been around humans at all. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
Re: OT: Rescue help need in Los Gatos, California
Oh Gina, what a sad tale and what wonderful people to devote themselves in this way. Many prayers and good wishes that they get the support they need and deserve. Is there someone that could help them with a wish list of what is needed? Someone to organize the effort? Please let us know what needs to be done specifically, and what we can do to help these dear people and their charges. Nina Gina WN wrote: I'm cross-posting this: Dear Best Friends Members, For years, the Magills have lived close to a park in Los Gatos that was a convenient dumping ground for unwanted cats.For years, Doug Magill and his wife have helped the cats abandoned near their home by providing them with medical care, food, shelter and love. But now the Magills are the ones who need help. As the couple has grown older, it has become harder for them to care for the 42 felines who live inside their home or outside on their property. Recently, someone called San Jose Animal Control to complain. The officer who came out to visit the Magills could see that they were trying their best with the cats, who appeared to be healthy and friendly. He didn't want to confiscate the cats and take them to the shelter, so he agreed to work with the Magills as long as they continued trying to find other homes for the cats. The Magills have managed to find homes for a few of the cats on their own, but they both have health problems that make it difficult to spend much time posting flyers or attending adoption events. You can help them by spreading the word about these cats, many of whom are Siamese mixes. Please forward this email to anyone you know who might be able to assist the Magills in finding homes for their rescued cats. If you need more information or would like to adopt a cat yourself, please contact Doug Magill directly: 408-356-1602 or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Visit my **Tigger Tales* http://tiggerwiggins.com/* site!* __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: strange bald spot
My fiv boy, Starman, has a problem with itchy dry skin. The least little irritant, or one flea bite can set him scratching like a mad man. When I first noticed a small bald spot on his back, I attributed it to advantage, (the bald spot is in the same location as where it was applied). His itchiness is much better now, (we tried a million and one things and finally got it under control using antihistamines), but that spot of fur has never grown back. Keep a close eye on it for any changes and try not to worry. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I noticed today that Tsunade has a strange bald spot on her back, in between her shoulders. i suppose she could have scratched it or rubbed up against something. Any thoughts on this, should I be worried?? She does not have fleas, I doubt it would be mites, it is cold 30-60 degrees F and last time she went to the vet the vet said her fur looked fine. thanks Chelsea
Re: Marley
Aww Sherry, I'm so sorry. Marley is in my thoughts and prayers for a quick turn around. Please don't beat yourself up for not being more on top of his aliments. Sometimes it's just impossible to know an off day from the onset of something serious, even when they live in the same house as we do. You can make yourself crazy with this kind of what if. Holding you both in my heart, Nina Sherry DeHaan wrote: Hi all,I know I haven't posted in a while,which for me would be a good thing cause it is usually bad news.Well I just need to ask all of you to send out prayers for beautiful sweet (crying while writing this)marley.He is having a bad time right now and is getting fluids and is at Dr. Jens house.Well I feel really bad cause I had noticed on Monday that he was not quite himself and didn't let Jen know.Sometimes these guys have off days and are fine the next.Well last night when I got there he was the first one that I looked for to check on him and he just was not right.We had to cut packed poo off his butt and he was just a mess.I would feel just aweful if we lost him because I didn't notify her sooner.If I was there everyday I definitly would have been on top of it.I guess I should have called to check on him.So please add him to your prayers he is one of my most fav boys at Sids.He has long black silky hair and is the most gentle loving babies ever.Thank you all so much.Sorry for rambling Sherry __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Sorry
Hi Sally, First, I'm so sorry to hear about Tiny. What an awful shock that must have been. I was so surprised when I lost my Jazz before her sister Grace. Jazzy was always so much stronger and healthier, I just never expected to lose her first. I don't have any advice about Junior's eye problems. Thank Heavens that's not something I've had to deal with yet. I wish I could come up with words of comfort for what you're going through and what you've already endured. I have a mantra that I repeat over and over: All I can do is all I can do. It does suck that money becomes an issue in our babies care, but we just have to do the best we can. Sometimes even having the money doesn't get us the result we so wish for. I firmly believe that paying for tests and treatments is not the most important part of our trials and tribulations, love and caring are far more important and you have those. Your little angels are blessed with a mom that loves them and considers their best interests. As hard as it is to take, extending their lives is not the most important thing, making what time they share with us as full of love, comfort and mutual joy is. Hang in there my dear. You and yours are in my prayers, Nina Sally wrote: With it being a long weekend I probably can't get back in to see the vet until Tuesday. They did say they would refill his antibiotic. I am hoping they are open today so I can do that. I still have the gentmycin drops and am giving him those. He did have an ulcerated cornea is the other eye which I assume is why he did not get the steroid drops for that eye. It has mostly cleared up but now his good eye is infected. He would be blind if he lost site in this eye. He is not eating well. Maybe he misses Tiny. They did not get along but he still might be missing him. I don't know how you do it. This is very draining emotionally and financially. I can't get the best care because I cannot afford it. I went back to the archives and I will print Bandy's treatment for the vet to see. I have an appt for his immunoregulin shot on Friday. Hopefully I can talk with Dr Staunton then. Sally Davis
Re: SNAP test faint positive, queen, 5 kittens
Hi Lynette, Bless you for the work you do and for helping this mom and her kittens in particular. I saw Phaewryn's response and I agree with it and don't have anything to add. Please be sure to let us know how everyone is doing and ask as many questions as you like. It's always a shock to get a pos response to a fiv/felv test, we get it, we understand your fears and anxieties. It does sound like these guys are going to be okay. I know how scary it can be to find out you've unwittingly exposed your own brood to the dangers of felv, but in this case I think you guys will be fine. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I do rescue work in the Chicago area. My group took in a queen from another organization; she was about to give birth and in fact did so hours after we received her. Fast forward three months... three of the kittens were sterilized and SNAP tested negative/negative on 12/2. She was separated from her kittens on 12/18 in order that she dry up so she could be sterilized. On 12/24, another kitten was sterilized and also SNAP tested negative/negative. That same day the queen was SNAP tested, and the test came out a faint positive, ie a light blue dot instead of a darker blue. She was also sterilized. The veterinarian in attendance recommended we hold the queen and re-test her in 1 month. If she tests positive again, we potentially have an FeLV cat and would follow up with an IFA test. The veterinarian also recommended that the kittens only go to homes with no other cats. Our rescue group does full and honest health disclosure, to the best of our ability, and we can't imagine adopters wanting FeLV exposed kittens, so we plan to hold them at least until her status is known. Before we thought through the implications of the queen's faint positive result and asked the veterinarian what to do with the kittens, I integrated them with my four negative, but vaccinated, adult cats. The kittens and the queen had been isolated in a bedroom for all of their 14 weeks and showed inadequate socialization which would be easily corrected by being underfoot with normal cats in a normal household. I now have a lot of questions; this seems like a kind and patient group so please bear with me, for my stupidity in immediately mixing in the kittens, and for all my questions. 1) How much danger of contracting the virus are my cats in (they received their last feleuk vaccine in late October)? 2) How likely is it that the queen is actually positive? (From the research I have done so far, it appears that this is likely an exposure positive, and her body may well fight it off, but then again any possible exposure was more than three months ago, heading on four months, so I don't really see how it can be an exposure positive). 3) Is there any point to doing an IFA test now, rather than waiting a month? 4) If the queen is positive, how likely is it that the kittens will also turn positive? 5) What is the correct process for determining if they are positive, as in what length of time from their last possible exposure until a reliable test can be given. 6) Is there any point at all in locking the kittens up until we are sure of their status (they are blossoming after just a few days and I am unenthused about this)? I don't want to risk my cats lives and health, but I do want to do the best thing possible for the other cats that come my way. Thank you for any answers or links to answers you can provide, and I apologize if I am asking basic questions. Lynette =^..^= The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be measured by the way in which its animals are treated. --Mahatma Gandhi, 1869-1948
Asia update
The Elspar from last week put Asia back in remission according to vet yesterday. However because Elspar was used/because Asia came out of remission, yesterday the used Adrianmycin in an IV drip of 4mg. So now I am researching to find out about that drug. Asia also has gained 7 oz. in weight, she is responding well it appears. I do need to add supplements but can only add a few right now due to financial issues. What would be the best supplements to add to enhance her treatment right now? Vit. C Vet also provided a written report and both x-rays for me yesterday. I scanned and sent to a friend who is a veterinary radiographer and am waiting to hear back from him. Dianne and Asia __,_._,___
Re: Odd Behavior
It sounds like gas to me too. What's Mr. Kitten been eating? Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just recently Mr. Kitten has been acting sort of odd. There have been several times he's been curled up sleeping or just lounging around and then will let out this sort of low growl/meow noise and raise his little rear end up, then lie right back down and go to sleep or whatever it was he was doing before. Anybody have any idea if this is some sort of sign that he's in pain or something else? Just thought it was strange.. Ashley *Check out the new AOL* http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom%2Fnewaol. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
Re: How do yall do it?
Hi Kelley, I've seen Missy's pictures before, everytime I do I get this huge smile on my face. She's so adorable! I certainly understand the feeling of dread in the pit of your stomach when you think about the possibility of her time being short. My advice is to stop nurturing that feeling of dread! I believe there is a reason for everything. I'd start thinking of Missy's diagnosis' as the universe's way of making sure you recognized how special and wonderful she is, you know what I mean? I'm sure with a puss like hers, she would have gotten your attention anyway, but this way, you concentrate on your connection to her all the more vividly. Let go of the worry and concentrate on the love. Each day is special, each day is a gift, thank her and be grateful. It is inevitable that there will always be time to grieve, don't rush it and do your best to not start grieving while she's still in your arms. All that said, I too have to fight the feelings of dread when I consider what life would be like without some of my babies. When we do, it's our cue to enjoy rather than fear. Sometimes easier said than done, but do it as a gift to her. Part of what they are here for is to teach us acceptance, that includes accepting the happiness their presence in our lives brings and letting go of the fear of future sorrow. Hugs to you sweetheart, of course you are strong enough, Nina Kelley Saveika wrote: Hi guys, I don't have an FELV+ that I know of, but I do have a kitty with VSM (ventricular septal defect) - a heart condition. She could die at any time, or she could live for quite a while. (If you could add her to the prayer list, that would be great). Her name is Missy, and I love her more than anything in the world. She had an echocardiogram and was diagnosed with VSM this summer. I think I have cried every day since. Before she had the echo I thought she would be dead every day when I got home. Now I'm sure she will be. Nice as the heart list people are, I can't really read that list; it is too close to home. I can barely read this one, and I cry a lot here too. How do yall stand it? I don't think I am strong enough. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: Asia update
Oh Dianne what wonderful news! I'm so pleased to hear Asia is doing so well. I seem to remember you saying that Asia is on CoQ10, what else do you have her on? I'm not sure if Interferon is the best choice for her, you'd need to speak to your vet about it. I'd ask your vet about anything that boosts immune system response to make sure you're not inadvertently boosting the cancer cells as well. I know that Transfer Factor is suppose to be a immune regulator rather than an immune booster, you might want to look into that. Here's a paste of a post I wrote on it: *Transfer Factor is suppose to be an 'immune balancer' that is taken from cow's colostrum, they also use something from chicken yolks. The idea is to educate an immature or imbalanced immune system to bring it into balance and help it ward off illness. I'm not even sure if it works, but according to the studies I've read, it hasn't had any ill effects, even when amounts used are many times higher than recommended. There have been good reports about general health, (shiny coat etc.) from some of the folks I know who are using it. There are several different formulas for people and animals. I use the animal stress formula. Here's a link to info about Transfer Factor: http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com/TransferFactor/basic.htm Here's the ordering info: The phone number for the company is: (888) 454-3374. There's a website link below, you might want to check out, but they don't have their order page encrypted, so it's safer to order over the phone. The wholesale price on the products from the most recent list I have is: Transfer Factor Classic -- 90 caps/$37.95 Transfer Factor Advanced Formula -- 60 caps/$39.95 TF Plus Advanced Formula -- 60 caps/$54.95 TF Feline Complete -- 60 - 2 grm. servings/$35.95 Animal Stress Pack -- 7 - 2 oz.packets/$48.95 * www.4life.com http://www.4life.com Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. wrote: The Elspar from last week put Asia back in remission according to vet yesterday. However because Elspar was used/because Asia came out of remission, yesterday the used Adrianmycin in an IV drip of 4mg. So now I am researching to find out about that drug. Asia also has gained 7 oz. in weight, she is responding well it appears. I do need to add supplements but can only add a few right now due to financial issues. What would be the best supplements to add to enhance her treatment right now? Vit. C Vet also provided a written report and both x-rays for me yesterday. I scanned and sent to a friend who is a veterinary radiographer and am waiting to hear back from him. Dianne and Asia __,_._,___
VA: Big Guy FeLV+ tabby ISO loving home (transport available)
ADOPTION CONTACT: Shadow Cat Advocates, Inc. Stafford, VA 540-720-1042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing address: PO Box 514 Garrisonville, VA 22463 TRANSPORT CONTACT (to help with transport if you can't adopt but could help get him transported): [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. VA: Big Guy FeLV+ tabby ISO loving home Posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] darnot258 Date: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:42 pm ((PST)) Please contact me if you can help Big Guy! I will coordinate transport. Check out the link to see how handsome he is! http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=7516388 forwarded message: Hi Denise, I got your name and e-mail address from Cathy of FCRT. We have one of the sweetest kitties we have ever run across, who naturally tested positive for feline leukemia, and he is in need of a good home. He is otherwise healthy and extremely friendly. He is a brown tabby with huge green eyes and a super sweet disposition who loves humans and other cats. We will be happy to transport him. My group does TNR of feral cats, and we caught him a while back at one of our feeding stations. He was taken to a clinic in Richmond where he was neutered, but they don't do combo testing there. As he was recovering from his surgery, we determined that he was probably an abandoned cat, rather than a feral. He is just the sweetest guy who appreciates everything you do for him. We gave him a little cat bed and he immediately jumped into it and you would think he was given the best thing ever. He crouches down in it and jumps out to play with you, then jumps back into the bed. He crawls up into your lap, loves to be petted, and purrs up a storm. We think he is about two years old and still very playful. When we realized how friendly he was, we decided he could not be taken back to where he was caught, but would be placed up for adoption. When we took him to our vet for a checkup, he was tested for FeLV/FIV, and he came back positive for FeLV. We know that he would make a good companion pet, and would love to get him into a good home. I would greatly appreciate any help you can provide to find Big Guy a home! Thank you so much, Cari Bartz Shadow Cat Advocates sca.petfinder.com BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:O'Gwynn;Jenn;Phaewryn;Ms. FN:Jenn Phaewryn O'Gwynn NICKNAME:Phaewryn ORG:Little Cheetah Cat Rescue;operations/field work TITLE:Cat Rescuer NOTE:I rescue cats. I run a small personal rescue operation, all on my own, and out of pocket. Donations appreciated at any time! Paypal donations can be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or send donations via check or money order to Jennifer O'Guin, PO Box 1008, Hardwick VT. 05843 TEL;WORK;VOICE:802-472-8628 TEL;HOME;VOICE:802 472-8628 ADR;WORK:;home office;;Hardwick;VT.;05843;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:home office=0D=0AHardwick, VT. 05843=0D=0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;P.O. Box 1008;Hardwick;Vermont;05843;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:P.O. Box 1008=0D=0AHardwick, Vermont 05843=0D=0AUSA X-WAB-GENDER:1 URL;HOME:http://ucat.us URL;WORK:http://ucat.us/adopt.html BDAY:19750928 EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20061230T174119Z END:VCARD
Re: Sorry
we do have a fund not sure of the balance in it just now. It's saved me in the past. Belinda would be the one to contact I think... And don't forget that signature you see below my name, it WORKS. Put a signature line in your emails that tells his story and asks for help. You never know where it will come from! There's also Care Credit, and other help groups. You can find those at this page (below the VT low cost clinic info): http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Just so you guys know, Whitey is doing good, and I paid off the balance of his vet bill yesterday! It was $300 and something total. But he's all better now! Thanks again to Kayte and Lance for their generous donations for his care, without you guys he would still be outside in the cold! Oh, and Tang may have an adoptive home. I'm in touch with someone that is interested in him. We are in the process of arranging a home visit and for her to meet him now. So Yay! If Tang gets adopted I would have ROOM for Whitey to stay as long as needed to find a home! Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=seething%40vtlink%2enetitem_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: Asia update
I'd go with the vitamin C, and a good all around high calorie vitamin-mineral supplement, like Vita-Cal or Nutri-Cal, since she's doing chemo, she could probably use the additional easy to access calories. Neither of them are expensive. Phaewryn 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: Asia update
Nina, No, Asia is not on CoQ10. I have not put her on any supplements due to the chemo and not having an opportunity to really talk with the oncologist. I changed our appointments to Friday mornings as the afternoons are so crazy that I don't get much chance to discuss things with the vet. Will explore all of this. Thanks Dianne - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: Asia update Oh Dianne what wonderful news! I'm so pleased to hear Asia is doing so well. I seem to remember you saying that Asia is on CoQ10, what else do you have her on? I'm not sure if Interferon is the best choice for her, you'd need to speak to your vet about it. I'd ask your vet about anything that boosts immune system response to make sure you're not inadvertently boosting the cancer cells as well. I know that Transfer Factor is suppose to be a immune regulator rather than an immune booster, you might want to look into that. Here's a paste of a post I wrote on it: Transfer Factor is suppose to be an 'immune balancer' that is taken from cow's colostrum, they also use something from chicken yolks. The idea is to educate an immature or imbalanced immune system to bring it into balance and help it ward off illness. I'm not even sure if it works, but according to the studies I've read, it hasn't had any ill effects, even when amounts used are many times higher than recommended. There have been good reports about general health, (shiny coat etc.) from some of the folks I know who are using it. There are several different formulas for people and animals. I use the animal stress formula. Here's a link to info about Transfer Factor: http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com Here's the ordering info: The phone number for the company is: (888) 454-3374. There's a website link below, you might want to check out, but they don't have their order page encrypted, so it's safer to order over the phone. The wholesale price on the products from the most recent list I have is: Transfer Factor Classic -- 90 caps/$37.95 Transfer Factor Advanced Formula -- 60 caps/$39.95 TF Plus Advanced Formula -- 60 caps/$54.95 TF Feline Complete -- 60 - 2 grm. servings/$35.95 Animal Stress Pack -- 7 - 2 oz.packets/$48.95 www.4life.com http://www.4life.com Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. wrote: The Elspar from last week put Asia back in remission according to vet yesterday. However because Elspar was used/because Asia came out of remission, yesterday the used Adrianmycin in an IV drip of 4mg. So now I am researching to find out about that drug. Asia also has gained 7 oz. in weight, she is responding well it appears. I do need to add supplements but can only add a few right now due to financial issues. What would be the best supplements to add to enhance her treatment right now? Vit. C Vet also provided a written report and both x-rays for me yesterday. I scanned and sent to a friend who is a veterinary radiographer and am waiting to hear back from him. Dianne and Asia __,_._,___
Re: Asia update
I heard that Vita-Cal and Nutri-Cal are full of sugar and that fuels cancer??? Regular vitamin C or is there a special cat Vit. C? Dianne - Original Message - From: Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:21 PM Subject: Re: Asia update I'd go with the vitamin C, and a good all around high calorie vitamin-mineral supplement, like Vita-Cal or Nutri-Cal, since she's doing chemo, she could probably use the additional easy to access calories. Neither of them are expensive. Phaewryn 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: Sorry
Hi Sally, I do hope the eyes get better..I just wanted you to know that it did make a world of difference in Bandy's eyes..He was on gentacin, too as he did have an ulcer on 1 eye, but as soon as it cleared she put him on antibiotic drops that had dex in it..They didn't work so when we switched to the prednisolone drops, it gave him almost immediate relief..It was truly amazing..The specialist said that is the drug of choice for anterior uveitis..I could only find it around here at Walgreens and it was around 16.00. (lasted a long time) Does he have something called fibrin in his eye? It looks like something is inside the eyeball...and it is brown..the pred drops cleared all this up. Keep me posted. Kerry, Angel Bandy and Inky __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Asia update
Think you want kitty vit c or a type that has less chance of irritating the tummy. Might try Dr. Belfields products, at www.belfield.com Gloria On Dec 30, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. wrote: I heard that Vita-Cal and Nutri-Cal are full of sugar and that fuels cancer??? Regular vitamin C or is there a special cat Vit. C? Dianne - Original Message - From: Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:21 PM Subject: Re: Asia update I'd go with the vitamin C, and a good all around high calorie vitamin-mineral supplement, like Vita-Cal or Nutri-Cal, since she's doing chemo, she could probably use the additional easy to access calories. Neither of them are expensive. Phaewryn 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY- YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: Asia update
I think fish oil, coq10, and essiac tea would probably be the best in terms of fighting cancer. These can all e expensive, but there are sources to get them pretty cheaply as well. For dogs, they think that arginine, an amino acid, helps fight the lymphoma and make them feel better, and Hills puts a lot of it in their canine lymphoma canned diet. I don't know if they have researched it with cats. Michelle
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub inside her ear. My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety. She was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes even me. With the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to make her groggy at all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the edge off I guess. Michelle
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Michelle, I'm so glad you mentioned this. My Phelix has the same problem with pulling his hair out from his tummy and back legs...and he does tend to be involved in some sibling rivalry on a regualr basis. I'm going to go see the compounding pharmacist here. elizabeth On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub inside her ear. My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety. She was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes even me. With the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to make her groggy at all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the edge off I guess. Michelle
Re: Asia update
Interesting. All the facts I could find were directed at humans with cancer though, not felines, thus it's hard to say for sure if this all applies, because we generally don't consider fruits, vegetables and grains as good food choices for cats. Perhaps though, supplementing with a high fiber supplement would be better, as that would be a complex form of carbs, and not refined sugar. Missing Link should be a good one to try. Maybe rice bran (it's one of the ingredients in Missing Link)? Anyone ever given a cat straight rice bran? It's an excellent supplement for boosting calories and bloom in horses, but I've never heard of giving it to cats. From what I can find online, it appears that rice bran can make a cat taurine defincient, so that's probably not a good thing, but I should think you could add a taurine supplement at the some time to counteract that. http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/132/6/1745S This, however, is VERY interesting, as it's clinical proof that rice bran lowers blood glucose (in humans): http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheNcpsidt=13549291 (I think I may start supplementing my BF, LOL!) This is cool too, lots of info (some bad reference links though): http://catfood.tribe.net/thread/66947e21-1c4e-4e8a-bab3-b62be97ea033 -- The Story on Sugar Cancer The concept that sugar feeds cancer is very scary and confusing. First, what is sugar? Sugar is a carbohydrate. Sugar is a simple carbohydrate. Examples of sugar include sucrose and glucose. If sugar is a simple carbohydrate, what is a complex carbohydrate? Complex carbohydrates are many simple carbohydrates (sugars) linked together. Both simple (sugar) and complex carbohydrates can be converted into sugar in the body. So, this brings us to the question, Does Sugar Feed Cancer. The simple answer is Yes. Sugar feeds EVERY cell in the whole body. Every cell in you body uses glucose, a simple sugar, for energy. If we know that every cell in the body prefers or needs glucose (sugar) for energy, it is no surprise that sugar feeds cancer. Just like other body cells, cancer cells use sugar for energy to grow and multiply. Does this mean that you should cut every bit of carbohydrate out of your diet, to prevent 'feeding' your cancer? The answer is a resounding No! But why? Most people have heard about the difference between 'good fats' and 'bad fats'. We know that some fat, like the fat found in olive oil and nuts, is healthy for us. These are 'good fats.' The fat found in red meat, cheese, and junk food are the so-called 'bad fats.' These fats are not healthy for us. We can apply this same idea to carbohydrates! There are 'good carbohydrates' and 'bad carbohydrates'. Simple sugar can be thought of as a 'bad carbohydrate.' These carbohydrates are not healthy for us. Complex carbohydrates are the 'good' ones. These complex carbohydrates are found in foods that are excellent for our health. Recent research tells us that when it comes to cancer, sugar is not the real problem. However, the hormones our bodies can produce when we eat a lot of sugar may be a BIG problem for individuals living with cancer and for those trying to reduce risk of cancer. Remember, sugar doesn't 'feed' cancer any more than it 'feeds' other body cells. However, if you eat a lot of simple sugar on a regular basis, it raises body levels of certain hormones. These hormones include insulin, insulin-like growth factor, and other hormones that encourage cells to grow. These hormones are the problem, NOT the sugar. Research tells us that high levels of insulin and related hormones may increase cancer cell growth (1-6)! If avoiding carbohydrates is not the answer, what is? There are ways to make sure your diet doesn't cause your body to produce a lot of hormones that will fuel cancer cell growth. And cutting out all carbohydrates is NOT the answer. Here's the solution: DECREASE THE INSULIN RESPONSE!! You do not need to avoid carbohydrates to do this. In fact, this would be a BAD idea. Complex carbohydrates actually appear to fight cancer. You DO need to make sure you eat less sugar (simple carbohydrates). Focus on eating only COMPLEX carbohydrates and you will avoid making your body produce the hormones that may promote cancer cell growth. Why eat carbohydrates at all? Complex carbohydrates include vegetables, fruit, whole grains, and legumes (beans). These are the VERY foods that we know fight cancer (7-17). Thousands of research studies tell us this is true! These foods contain hundreds of nutrients, called phytochemicals. Phytochemicals FIGHT cancer. It's that simple. If you cut these foods out of your diet, you lose all of the great cancer fighting nutrients in these foods. And, these complex carbohydrates are slow to digest, so they don't raise blood sugar levels as much as simple sugars. Therefore these foods
RE: Sorry
I have been to most of the sites if not all you suggested. I can't put anymore on my credit cards. I have been in trouble there in the past. I am the lone support for the family. Eric is disabled and receives a very small amount. It does not cover his living expenses. He is also not able to help me do the vet visits etc because of his health. Without a job, the kitties and I would be in a heap of trouble. I had wondered about your signature and paypal. I have not used my account in ages. If Junior survives maybe I will have time to look into it. He is such a sweet cat I wish this had never happened. Thanks Sally _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:17 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Sorry we do have a fund not sure of the balance in it just now. It's saved me in the past. Belinda would be the one to contact I think... And don't forget that signature you see below my name, it WORKS. Put a signature line in your emails that tells his story and asks for help. You never know where it will come from! There's also Care Credit, and other help groups. You can find those at this page (below the VT low cost clinic info): http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Just so you guys know, Whitey is doing good, and I paid off the balance of his vet bill yesterday! It was $300 and something total. But he's all better now! Thanks again to Kayte and Lance for their generous donations for his care, without you guys he would still be outside in the cold! Oh, and Tang may have an adoptive home. I'm in touch with someone that is interested in him. We are in the process of arranging a home visit and for her to meet him now. So Yay! If Tang gets adopted I would have ROOM for Whitey to stay as long as needed to find a home! Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=seething%40vtlin k%2enetitem_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund business=seething%40vtlink%2enetitem_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterin ary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQit emZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: Asia update - rice bran and taurine
Rice bran is one of the ingredients in Gypsy's homemade turkey mush. I did some research at the time and found that pure rice bran is recommended highly over the other types of brans. I also add plenty of taurine. I had heard on a radio show featuring a feline nutritionist that taurine, along with all the other benefits derived, is good for immune system function. Nina Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn wrote: Interesting. All the facts I could find were directed at humans with cancer though, not felines, thus it's hard to say for sure if this all applies, because we generally don't consider fruits, vegetables and grains as good food choices for cats. Perhaps though, supplementing with a high fiber supplement would be better, as that would be a complex form of carbs, and not refined sugar. Missing Link should be a good one to try. Maybe rice bran (it's one of the ingredients in Missing Link)? Anyone ever given a cat straight rice bran? It's an excellent supplement for boosting calories and bloom in horses, but I've never heard of giving it to cats. From what I can find online, it appears that rice bran can make a cat taurine defincient, so that's probably not a good thing, but I should think you could add a taurine supplement at the some time to counteract that.
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
*Does the Benadryl have to be compounded? What is the dosage... do you know? We've got one that pulls his hair out and I'd like to try it!* *Thanks!* *Leslie =^..^=* On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub inside her ear. My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety. She was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes even me. With the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to make her groggy at all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the edge off I guess. Michelle -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: Marley
Thank you so much Nina and all who had sweet Marley,he is back at the sanctuary and feeling much like himself.He looks up with me with those beautiful yellow eyes and just melts my heart.He loves to be held just like a baby.I am going to send Dr. Jen a thank you for making him feel better.I hope everyone hasa wonderful new year,be safe and take care. Sherry Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aww Sherry, I'm so sorry. Marley is in my thoughts and prayers for a quick turn around. Please don't beat yourself up for not being more on top of his aliments. Sometimes it's just impossible to know an off day from the onset of something serious, even when they live in the same house as we do. You can make yourself crazy with this kind of what if. Holding you both in my heart, Nina Sherry DeHaan wrote: Hi all,I know I haven't posted in a while,which for me would be a good thing cause it is usually bad news.Well I just need to ask all of you to send out prayers for beautiful sweet (crying while writing this)marley.He is having a bad time right now and is getting fluids and is at Dr. Jens house.Well I feel really bad cause I had noticed on Monday that he was not quite himself and didn't let Jen know.Sometimes these guys have off days and are fine the next.Well last night when I got there he was the first one that I looked for to check on him and he just was not right.We had to cut packed poo off his butt and he was just a mess.I would feel just aweful if we lost him because I didn't notify her sooner.If I was there everyday I definitly would have been on top of it.I guess I should have called to check on him.So please add him to your prayers he is one of my most fav boys at Sids.He has long black silky hair and is the most gentle loving babies ever.Thank you all so much.Sorry for rambling Sherry __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
The dose my doctor recommended for an extremely upset cat was 1/2 of a 25mg pill...that might be too much for one with OCD though. It really calmed Celena down though..she was insane at the time over an outside cat she saw through the window...attacking everyone in sight on the inside. I plan to talk to my vet about it next week. On 12/30/06, Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Does the Benadryl have to be compounded? What is the dosage... do you know? We've got one that pulls his hair out and I'd like to try it!* *Thanks!* *Leslie =^..^=* On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub inside her ear. My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety. She was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes even me. With the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to make her groggy at all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the edge off I guess. Michelle -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: Sorry
It's real easy, just log in to your paypal account, and there's a tab at the top that says Merchant Services click on that, then when that page loads, scroll down and on the far right-hand side of the screen is a box that's titled Key Features, one of the links in it is donations, if you click on that, it goes to another page where you just fill out a form with your info (what people are donating for), make sure you click to no button so it will create an email link, and then submit it create button now and it makes you a link to copy, and you just put that link in your email signature. If you use outlook express I can help you do that too, if you don't know how. Phaewryn Don't Lose Your Pet! Register at AWOLpet.com: http://AWOLPet.com (use referral code: LittleCheetah) Whitey's Story: http://ucat.us/Whitey.html 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
No, you can give benadryl in it's pill form, get the tablets, not the caplets, and break one in half, that is a safe cat dose! 1/2 of a 25MG tablet, or 12.5MG is the usual cat dose. Phaewryn Don't Lose Your Pet! Register at AWOLpet.com: http://AWOLPet.com (use referral code: LittleCheetah) Whitey's Story: http://ucat.us/Whitey.html 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Phaewryn, what about children's benadryl it's liquid and you can give it with a dropper. I could maybe get it in my cats that way,but I wouldn't know what amount to give. Sheila
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat (Benadryl for cats)
Children's benadryl is so diluted you have to give such a large amount to a cat it's not practical. I think it's like a whole teaspoon or more to equal a 12.5MG dose. The adult pills are much easier, they are already small, and once you cut them in half, they are VERY easy to get into a cat (you can even usually hide it in some wet food). They only last for about 6 hours though, so it's more than once a day. I think my vet had me giving them 2x a day, but it never really cured my cat, who has allergies, and not a psychological condition. Mythic actually ITCHES, he isn't just a hair puller (which is generally a psychological problem, not a physical one). I would think Valium would be a better drug for psychological hair pulling, but of course that's a prescription and probably not cheap. Valium dosages for cats are usually 2.5MG to 5MG, I believe. I used to give Mythic a WHOLE Benadryl tablet on my vet's advice occasionally, but I don't recommend it without veterinary recommendation, as I think you would need to do a blood panel first (my cat is strong and in good health). Phaewryn Don't Lose Your Pet! Register at AWOLpet.com: http://AWOLPet.com (use referral code: LittleCheetah) Whitey's Story: http://ucat.us/Whitey.html 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
I've tried liquid Benadryl before. The cat I gave it to really hated the flavor/taste and went ballistic. Not the reaction I was hoping for at all. If you haven't tried coating pills with a tiny bit of pill pocket and hiding it in food, please do. If the cat is eating at all, they usually wolf the pill down with whatever yummy food I put it in. I've even put it along side some of those disgusting Whiskas treats and they will eat the pill pocketed med right along with the treats. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phaewryn, what about children's benadryl it's liquid and you can give it with a dropper. I could maybe get it in my cats that way,but I wouldn't know what amount to give. Sheila
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
i've always given .25 ml of the pediatric liquid with the cats who can't be pilled. no, they aren't fond of it, but i'm fonder of my fingers--and for the behavioral hair-pulling/licking/scratching (which often starts out as an actual allergic reaction then turns into a behavioral thing), it's worked on many cats over many years. and yeah, those caplets REALLY don't work On 12/31/06, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried liquid Benadryl before. The cat I gave it to really hated the flavor/taste and went ballistic. Not the reaction I was hoping for at all. If you haven't tried coating pills with a tiny bit of pill pocket and hiding it in food, please do. If the cat is eating at all, they usually wolf the pill down with whatever yummy food I put it in. I've even put it along side some of those disgusting Whiskas treats and they will eat the pill pocketed med right along with the treats. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phaewryn, what about children's benadryl it's liquid and you can give it with a dropper. I could maybe get it in my cats that way,but I wouldn't know what amount to give. Sheila -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
oops--that's .25/mg twice a day, per my vet On 12/31/06, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've always given .25 ml of the pediatric liquid with the cats who can't be pilled. no, they aren't fond of it, but i'm fonder of my fingers--and for the behavioral hair-pulling/licking/scratching (which often starts out as an actual allergic reaction then turns into a behavioral thing), it's worked on many cats over many years. and yeah, those caplets REALLY don't work On 12/31/06, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried liquid Benadryl before. The cat I gave it to really hated the flavor/taste and went ballistic. Not the reaction I was hoping for at all. If you haven't tried coating pills with a tiny bit of pill pocket and hiding it in food, please do. If the cat is eating at all, they usually wolf the pill down with whatever yummy food I put it in. I've even put it along side some of those disgusting Whiskas treats and they will eat the pill pocketed med right along with the treats. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phaewryn, what about children's benadryl it's liquid and you can give it with a dropper. I could maybe get it in my cats that way,but I wouldn't know what amount to give. Sheila -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
OT: Parasite makes men dumb, women sexy
(this explains a lot LOL -- poasted in the Sydney Morning Herald...) *Parasite makes men dumb, women sexy* December 26, 2006 - 5:33PM A common parasite can increase a women's attractiveness to the opposite sex but also make men more stupid, an Australian researcher says. About 40 per cent of the world's population is infected with Toxoplasma gondii, including about eight million Australians. Human infection generally occurs when people eat raw or undercooked meat that has cysts containing the parasite, or accidentally ingest some of the parasite's eggs excreted by an infected cat. The parasite is known to be dangerous to pregnant women as it can cause disability or abortion of the unborn child, and can also kill people whose immune systems are weakened. Until recently it was thought to be an insignificant disease in healthy people, Sydney University of Technology infectious disease researcher Nicky Boulter said, but new research has revealed its mind-altering properties. Interestingly, the effect of infection is different between men and women, Dr Boulter writes in the latest issue of Australasian Science magazine. Infected men have lower IQs, achieve a lower level of education and have shorter attention spans. They are also more likely to break rules and take risks, be more independent, more anti-social, suspicious, jealous and morose, and are deemed less attractive to women. On the other hand, infected women tend to be more outgoing, friendly, more promiscuous, and are considered more attractive to men compared with non-infected controls. In short, it can make men behave like alley cats and women behave like sex kittens. Dr Boulter said the recent Czech Republic research was not conclusive, but was backed up by animal studies that found infection also changes the behaviour of mice. The mice were more likely to take risks that increased their chance of being eaten by cats, which would allow the parasite to continue its life cycle. Rodents treated with drugs that killed the parasites reversed their behaviour, Dr Boulter said. Another study showed people who were infected but not showing symptoms were 2.7 times more likely than uninfected people to be involved in a car accident as a driver or pedestrian, while other research has linked the parasite to higher incidences of schizophrenia. The increasing body of evidence connecting Toxoplasma infection with changes in personality and mental state, combined with the extremely high incidence of human infection in both developing and developed countries, warrants increased government funding and research, in particular to find safe and effective treatments or vaccines, Dr Boulter said.
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
.25MG? Are you sure about that MC? That isn't enough to do anything, I don't think. The standard does is 12.5MG. Phaewryn Don't Lose Your Pet! Register at AWOLpet.com: http://AWOLPet.com (use referral code: LittleCheetah) Whitey's Story: http://ucat.us/Whitey.html 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: Parasite makes men dumb, women sexy
Wow... so, what's the cure for it in humans anyways? Just curious if I might have had it when I was younger, but took something that killed it since... in which case, I'm going to start eating infected cat poo to re-infect myself! Anybody got an infected cat I can borrow some poo from? LOL! Maybe I can market this on ebay Newest female sexual-dysfunction cure! Studies show that this new technology can increase a women's attractiveness to the opposite sex! Who doesn't want to be more outgoing, friendly, have an increased sexuality? Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is proud to present the female community with Toxofelipoo, sure to turn even the most wrinkled up prune into a SEX KITTEN! Meow! Then in small print at the bottom: Men should not handle Toxofelipoo, as it may lead to the lowering of the IQ, or can in some cases lead to psychological and intellectual disorders Possible side effects in women are disorders of the unborn fetus, pregnant women or women with lowered immune systems should not take Toxofelipoo. In rare cases, death has occurred, if you experience death at any time while taking Toxofelipoo, you should discontinue treatment and seek a mortuary. j/k... LMAO! Phaewryn A common parasite can increase a women's attractiveness to the opposite sex but also make men more stupid, an Australian researcher says. On the other hand, infected women tend to be more outgoing, friendly, more promiscuous, and are considered more attractive to men compared with non-infected controls. In short, it can make men behave like alley cats and women behave like sex kittens.
