Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat

[tamara stickler]

Kelley,
   
  Do you wear any scentsor are you a smoker?  It may take her a while to 
get used to your smellor lack of if her owner used perfume or smoked.

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No, I don't think she is feral at all.  Her ex-guardian had her since 8 
weeks of age, per the medical records she gave me.  (she's had WAY too many 
shots, IMHO - the vet we have inside Petsmart here seems to be quite the ripoff 
joint).  
   
  She doesn't seem to like my voice, she bares her teeth and hisses at me when 
she hears it.
   
  Seems pretty indifferent to other cats so far (I shoo them out when they go 
in her room, but she pays no mind to them).

 
  On 12/31/06, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Keep in mind that 
apparently she's not feral, just terrified.  Give her time, and try tasty stuff 
(like the fried chicken - great idea). Talk to her soothingly.   
 
  Gloria

 
  
 
  
On Dec 31, 2006, at 6:28 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote:

  Oh, she also hasn't eaten since she got here.  I have tried her regular food 
(they brought the remains of a bag over), pill pockets (with no pills in them - 
my cats love them), freeze dried shrimp, yucky Pounce treats, and canned food.  
Next I am going to try tuna.  There's no way I can syringe her, and I can't get 
her to a vet without trapping her, which usually involves food.  So I just have 
to hope that she eats, I guess.  Judging from my cats, maybe I should try white 
bread - they think that is the best thing going! 

  On 12/31/06, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:   Not only can I not 
touch her ears, I can't get closer than about a foot and a half without being 
in danger of losing a finger.  

  On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   If you are 
able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl to be 
compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub inside her 
ear.  My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety.  She was prescribed it 
because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the 
benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the 
benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to her, it is 
noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes even me. With the benadryl 
she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to make her groggy at all-- she is 
quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the edge off I guess. 
  Michelle




  
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Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat

[Kelley Saveika]

Apparently the only scent I wear is cat pee, according to my coworkers, but
that's another thread:p.

I don't smoke.

She is a LITTLE better.  She ate enough canned food to produce a bowel
movement.  She's still not eating what I think she should, though -
especially since her former guardian said she was a very enthusiastic eater
and would make friends with the person who fed her.


On 1/2/07, tamara stickler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Kelley,

Do you wear any scentsor are you a smoker?  It may take her a while to
get used to your smellor lack of if her owner used perfume or smoked.

*Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:

No, I don't think she is feral at all.  Her ex-guardian had her since 8
weeks of age, per the medical records she gave me.  (she's had WAY too many
shots, IMHO - the vet we have inside Petsmart here seems to be quite the
ripoff joint).

She doesn't seem to like my voice, she bares her teeth and hisses at me
when she hears it.

Seems pretty indifferent to other cats so far (I shoo them out when they
go in her room, but she pays no mind to them).


On 12/31/06, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Keep in mind that apparently she's not feral, just terrified.  Give her
> time, and try tasty stuff (like the fried chicken - great idea). Talk to her
> soothingly.
>
> Gloria
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Dec 31, 2006, at 6:28 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote:
>
> Oh, she also hasn't eaten since she got here.  I have tried her regular
> food (they brought the remains of a bag over), pill pockets (with no pills
> in them - my cats love them), freeze dried shrimp, yucky Pounce treats, and
> canned food.  Next I am going to try tuna.  There's no way I can syringe
> her, and I can't get her to a vet without trapping her, which usually
> involves food.  So I just have to hope that she eats, I guess.  Judging from
> my cats, maybe I should try white bread - they think that is the best thing
> going!
>
> On 12/31/06, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> > Not only can I not touch her ears, I can't get closer than about a
> > foot and a half without being in danger of losing a finger.
> >
> > On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >  If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe
> > > benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream
> > > to rub inside her ear.  My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety.
> > > She was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and
> > > back legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after 
the
> > > other cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to
> > > give it to her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes
> > > even me. With the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to 
make
> > > her groggy at all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the
> > > edge off I guess.
> > > Michelle
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
>
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OT: food allergic cat

[Leslie]

Hi Beth,
If you are really thinking about raw, it can be kind of a mystery as to what
to mix up, I used this recipe from a great Yahoo group called "rawpaws".
They are wonderful over there, really helpful.

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/oJ2aRe2OcxsgFRNi2lodQ_L8TqPraMmAbja6raOjjHI7rSafcI7bQ65b5I_o4z9fK8-6LeVeJMeUPMdt5owZsr02-lZs/RawPaws%20Start%20Up%20Guides/RawPaws%20Quick%20Start.pdf

Actually as I look back at this, I think it's been updated and I may have to
revise my recipe.  I mix up two pounds of raw meat/bones at a time, keep a
large Tupperware of my veggie mix frozen in the fridge to pull from and add
in what else is needed, that keeps it semi-manageable, and if one type of
meat isn't a favorite, it's not too long until the next batch needs to be
made with something different.

Hope this helps,
Leslie

Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat

[G. Lane]

Great!  Sounds like she's doing well and coming round.  It's a big 
shock leaving the home you've known..


Gloria



At 12:13 PM 1/2/2007, you wrote:
Apparently the only scent I wear is cat pee, according to my 
coworkers, but that's another thread:p.


I don't smoke.

She is a LITTLE better.  She ate enough canned food to produce a 
bowel movement.  She's still not eating what I think she should, 
though - especially since her former guardian said she was a very 
enthusiastic eater and would make friends with the person who fed her.



On 1/2/07, tamara stickler 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Kelley,

Do you wear any scentsor are you a smoker?  It may take her a 
while to get used to your smellor lack of if her owner used 
perfume or smoked.


Kelley Saveika < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No, I don't think she is feral at all.  Her ex-guardian had her 
since 8 weeks of age, per the medical records she gave me.  (she's 
had WAY too many shots, IMHO - the vet we have inside Petsmart here 
seems to be quite the ripoff joint).


She doesn't seem to like my voice, she bares her teeth and hisses at 
me when she hears it.


Seems pretty indifferent to other cats so far (I shoo them out when 
they go in her room, but she pays no mind to them).



On 12/31/06, Gloria Lane 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
Keep in mind that apparently she's not feral, just terrified.  Give 
her time, and try tasty stuff (like the fried chicken - great idea). 
Talk to her soothingly.



Gloria





On Dec 31, 2006, at 6:28 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote:

Oh, she also hasn't eaten since she got here.  I have tried her 
regular food (they brought the remains of a bag over), pill pockets 
(with no pills in them - my cats love them), freeze dried shrimp, 
yucky Pounce treats, and canned food.  Next I am going to try 
tuna.  There's no way I can syringe her, and I can't get her to a 
vet without trapping her, which usually involves food.  So I just 
have to hope that she eats, I guess.  Judging from my cats, maybe I 
should try white bread - they think that is the best thing going!


On 12/31/06, Kelley Saveika 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
Not only can I not touch her ears, I can't get closer than about a 
foot and a half without being in danger of losing a finger.


On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe 
benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into 
transdermal cream to rub inside her ear.  My Patches has been on 
this for years for anxiety.  She was prescribed it because she was 
pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the benadryl 
stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the 
benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to 
her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes 
even me. With the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not 
seem to make her groggy at all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- 
but just takes the edge off I guess.

Michelle




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Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat

[Marylyn]

This is very true.  Dixie Louise, who is a very laid back cat, snarled at a 
friend who had on a strange fragrance.






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: tamara stickler 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:06 PM
  Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat


  Kelley,

  Do you wear any scentsor are you a smoker?  It may take her a while to 
get used to your smellor lack of if her owner used perfume or smoked.

  Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No, I don't think she is feral at all.  Her ex-guardian had her since 8 
weeks of age, per the medical records she gave me.  (she's had WAY too many 
shots, IMHO - the vet we have inside Petsmart here seems to be quite the ripoff 
joint).  

She doesn't seem to like my voice, she bares her teeth and hisses at me 
when she hears it.

Seems pretty indifferent to other cats so far (I shoo them out when they go 
in her room, but she pays no mind to them).

 
On 12/31/06, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  Keep in mind that apparently she's not feral, just terrified.  Give her 
time, and try tasty stuff (like the fried chicken - great idea). Talk to her 
soothingly. 

   
  Gloria

   

   


  On Dec 31, 2006, at 6:28 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote:


Oh, she also hasn't eaten since she got here.  I have tried her regular 
food (they brought the remains of a bag over), pill pockets (with no pills in 
them - my cats love them), freeze dried shrimp, yucky Pounce treats, and canned 
food.  Next I am going to try tuna.  There's no way I can syringe her, and I 
can't get her to a vet without trapping her, which usually involves food.  So I 
just have to hope that she eats, I guess.  Judging from my cats, maybe I should 
try white bread - they think that is the best thing going! 


On 12/31/06, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 
  Not only can I not touch her ears, I can't get closer than about a 
foot and a half without being in danger of losing a finger.  


  On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe 
benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to 
rub inside her ear.  My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety.  She 
was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back 
legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other 
cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to 
her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes even me. With 
the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to make her groggy at 
all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the edge off I guess. 
Michelle




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fip question

[Lernermichelle]

I spoke to my vet about lucy, and he did not see a reason to bring her in.  
He agreed that her discomfort for a few hours in the evening is probably 
related  to her ibd and to up her flagyl and pred a little.
 
I have, though, probably irrationally, started worrying about wet  FIP.  Her 
sides look a little pooched out to me, which may just be that she  had lost 
some weight for the couple weeks she did not want her turkey mush and  looks a 
bit skinny all over and has just started gaining it back so may be  gaining it 
back in her tummy first. But, not knowing why she is getting  uncomfortable 
for a few hours a day, and being paranoid about fip, I started  worrying that 
maybe the poochiness is fluid accumulation. I looked for a wet fip  photo 
online 
but can not find one.  I found info on wet fip symptoms, and  it did say that 
fluid accumulation can happen slowly and that other symptoms can  be 
intermittent inappetance and depression.  Does anyone think she could  have 
fip? When 
she is not having the discomfort, she is pretty normal, maybe a  slight bit 
less active than usual, but she is eating quite a bit.  When  cats get wet fip, 
are the symptoms normally constant? Should I be worried about  this? And is 
fluid accumulation very obviously fluid, or could it look sort of  like tummy 
weight gain (i.e. when I look at her from behind, her butt looks thin  and I 
can 
see her sides sticking out a bit, rather than just chubby all over  like my 
other cats). Does the fluid feel mush like water, or firm? If I press on  her 
belly, it just feels like her stomach is bigger.
 
Thanks for any thoughts or advice.  I think if I call my vet and ask  him 
this he will think I have gone round the bend, but I am feeling  anxious.
 
michelle

RE: fip question

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Michelle - if she is eating well, and has not lost weight, she probably
does not have FIP - I lost only one cat to FIP a few years ago and lost
6 to dry --- but what's very consistent is that FIP cats' appetite does
go down and star losing weight - if it's wet tip, it progresses very
fast - other illness like liver disease can also cause fluid in tummy as
well   -- so usually with FIP kitty with dry form, they may have lost
some weight in other area but has a swollen tummy, my gurfunkle did not
have FIP, but passed with liver disease and had fluid in tummy --

 

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Subject: fip question

 

I spoke to my vet about lucy, and he did not see a reason to bring her
in. He agreed that her discomfort for a few hours in the evening is
probably related to her ibd and to up her flagyl and pred a little.

 

I have, though, probably irrationally, started worrying about wet FIP.
Her sides look a little pooched out to me, which may just be that she
had lost some weight for the couple weeks she did not want her turkey
mush and looks a bit skinny all over and has just started gaining it
back so may be gaining it back in her tummy first. But, not knowing why
she is getting uncomfortable for a few hours a day, and being paranoid
about fip, I started worrying that maybe the poochiness is fluid
accumulation. I looked for a wet fip photo online but can not find one.
I found info on wet fip symptoms, and it did say that fluid accumulation
can happen slowly and that other symptoms can be intermittent
inappetance and depression.  Does anyone think she could have fip? When
she is not having the discomfort, she is pretty normal, maybe a slight
bit less active than usual, but she is eating quite a bit.  When cats
get wet fip, are the symptoms normally constant? Should I be worried
about this? And is fluid accumulation very obviously fluid, or could it
look sort of like tummy weight gain (i.e. when I look at her from
behind, her butt looks thin and I can see her sides sticking out a bit,
rather than just chubby all over like my other cats). Does the fluid
feel mush like water, or firm? If I press on her belly, it just feels
like her stomach is bigger.

 

Thanks for any thoughts or advice.  I think if I call my vet and ask him
this he will think I have gone round the bend, but I am feeling anxious.

 

michelle

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Lucy and IBD

[Kerry Roach]

hi Michelle,
   
  I am sorry to hear Lucy isn't doing so well right now..Inky has had some 
really bad bouts lately, too..I would, like Nina, suggested stay with the raw 
diet or mush..Inky is still on 10mg of pred now as his vet said to keep him 
there if it is working..So maybe you just need to up Lucy's pred some more 
until the symptoms pass.  I know the larger dose has always worked for Inky 
when he has had really bad bouts of this..I use pepcid transdermal daily for 
him...but I do have reglan, too..It makes him too sleepy so I don't give him 
but 1cc which is equal to 1mg at a time when I have to.  
  It seems to me when there is a big flare up that they are probably having 
some really bad pain in the stomach or intestines same as we do when we have 
the flu or something..And if you can get the inflammation under control, I 
think it helps them..It seems to Inky anyway..
  I think it just makes him feel better..
  After Inky's recent bouts, I am only feeding him almost all raw turkey and 
some grilled chicken..He gets his meds in tsp of fancy feast twice a day and 
this isn't causing him a problem..He is also eating sensitve stomach and i/d 
dry foods without any problems..so go figure that one..Who knows, but as long 
as it works for him guess I will let him eat it..
  I do hope Lucy feels better real soon...Keep us posted..
  Kerry, Angel Bandy and Inky

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