Questions and concerns
All 14 of our babies seem to be ok after their testing and FELV shots. Does everyone feel like cats should get this vaccine every year I have read some controversial stuff on this. These cats do not go outside. Also, how does everyone here feel about getting rabies shots for indoor cats? Our vet keeps talking us into these and I just don't feel like they are that important. Even the other yearly shots they get I often wonder if they are necessary every year. I also wanted to ask about our cat Cassie. She is a gray tabby. She is very high strung. She likes to sit on your lap but if you try to move her she growls and gets nervous. She has lost some weight lately, but she eats good. She also has licked herself bald in a few areas. Any ideas? She tested negative for FELV like the others. I was wondering if there was any good cat vitamins or anything that might help build her up. I really think she is always afraid someone is going to pounce on her so she doesn't eat like she should.
Re: Questions and concerns
*Glad someone brought up Amitriptyline! I have a few very nervous cats and they were prescribed Amitriptyline. I have taken them off the medication because it makes them too tired to be nervous! Has anyone ridden out the side effects to see if they do, in fact, go away after some time?? I always revert back to the quality versus quantity - I would not want to live zonked out* *Leslie =^..^=* On 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Medicating with amitriptyline (sp?) helps nervous cats lots of times. Prozac is also sometimes used. As for the FELV vaccine, I don't believe in giving it to adult cats at all. Healthy adult cats develop natural immunity as they approach adulthood. The only time I would use it were if I had a kitten under 1 year old that I knew was going to be exposed to FELV. Then, I would give one shot, and never again. There are no studies that suggest that repeated vaccines increase immunity, and in fact, most trials show that most vaccines produce immunity for life, or at least for many years (depending on the vaccine). (you'll note that us humans don't have to go in for annual smallpox and rubella vaccines) As for rabies, I would not give it more than once every 3 years, and I would NOT use an adjuvanted vaccine, so that means it would have to be Merial's Purevax rabies, as that is currently the ONLY non-advuvanted rabies vaccine. Of course, you have your local and state laws to consider with regards to the rabies vaccine, most places require it legally. More info on vaccines can be found at: http://ucat.us/vaccines.html Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
RE: 14 cats going to be tested- Great News
Fantastic news!!! So glad for you and your kitties! :) Wendy --- Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to let everyone know we took the gang of 14 in. Just got home. All the tests came back negative. Not a single cat was positive. Now we have to question on whether or not Elsa was truly positive. We took the cats to another vet. We use 4 actually. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 4:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: 14 cats going to be tested good luck; i'm glad you found a vet who'd help you out! (you've learned, unfortunately, what we all do--ANYONE can call themselves a humane society--there are no requirements to actually BE one) MC On 3/6/07, Debbie HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not looking forward to taking them all in, but we felt we should know. This way at least we can take extra care for any that might test positive. We went out and got lots of carriers. Going to have to take two vehicles. The vet we chose is about 17 miles from us. They gave us a mutiple cat discount but everyone had to go in at once. I appreciate the people on this list taking the time out to comment. I tend to be a loner most times. I am at work at the moment. I work with ALOT of farmers who look at cats as a nuisance here. Makes for some very unpleasant conversations at times here. I have had cats for as long as I remember. I would not trade those friendships for all the human ones in the world. It is always refreshing though to find people who care as much about animals as I do. The Humane Society here said I was not doing the cats any favors by taking in so many, without having them all tested and vaccinated for FELV. We got all the cats at the same time. All abandoned, some even starving. We have had them all spayed/ neutered and had all other shots. We keep them all indoors and keep them clean, well groomed, etc... I would have hoped for a better response from a Humane Society. I had asked them if we bought all the vaccines if they would administer the shots for a donation. I refuse to ever turn a blind eye to an animal in need of help. If that means spending alot of money on them than so be it. -Original Message- From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Mar 6, 2007 3:37 PM To: HYPERLINK mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 14 cats going to be tested Sending lots of good vibes for tonight Debbie. Let us know how it goes when you have time. Kerry M. -Original Message- From: HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debbie Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:09 PM To: HYPERLINK mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 14 cats going to be tested Am taking our 14 cats in tonight to be tested for FELV. This was after we had Elsa put to sleep because of fluid in her lungs and her testing positive. Wish us luck. I don't know what to expect. I'd like to think no one else will test positive, but I doubt that will be the case. All the cats are around the same age (3-4 yrs). Different litters though. Has a genetic factor to this disease ever been found? IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: 3/5/2007 9:41 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database:
Re: Questions and concerns
From 2005: http://www.avma.org/journals/javma/articles_public/vafstf_050601.asp DR. JANE BRUNT: I've seen vaccine-associated sarcomas, as have my colleagues. It seems clear to me and my colleagues in AAFP that results of additional studies are not needed to prove that there is an association between vaccine administration and sarcoma formation in cats. On the other hand, there are a number of others who have not seen a vaccine-associated sarcoma, and they are more inclined to continue to vaccinate as they always have. Veterinarians' belief in the association between vaccine administration and sarcoma formation depends on what their experience has been. DR. HENDRICK: My opinion, on the basis of what I know about basic pathology and what I have observed, is that cats have a predisposition to develop sarcomas in response to inflammation, but something changed in 1989. Suddenly, we started seeing more sarcomas than the sporadic ones that we would have seen after administration of various injectables. In my opinion, what changed was new formulations for vaccines. In some way, they promoted a more robust, unusual, or exuberant inflammatory response and that led to an increase in the development of sarcomas. Something happened and not just because of the higher frequency of vaccine administration, compared with other injectables. Cats have been receiving vaccines more often than lufenuron, fluids, or methylprednisolone acetate sterile aqueous suspension. DR. THOMAS ELSTON: Regarding the AAFP/AFM's recommendations on the use of FeLV vaccines, there is at least potential for a change in the occurrence of fibrosarcomas. The AAFP/AFM guidelines28 recommend that FeLV vaccines be used only in those cats at risk of direct exposure to FeLV-infected cats. With lifestyle changes in this country, we are seeing more and more cats being housed totally indoors, as much as half of the cat population. With this much of the cat population at low to no risk, the use of FeLV vaccine should, at least in theory, have decreased significantly. The effect of that should be a reduction in FeLV vaccine site fibrosarcomas. An example of that effect in an admittedly small sample size is that in my practice, where 90% of my patients no longer receive FeLV vaccines, during the last five years, I have not seen any fibrosarcomas associated with FeLV vaccines but continue to see as many fibrosarcomas associated with administration of rabies virus vaccines. (note that this translates into the fact that BEFORE, when he gave the FELV vaccine routinely, he WAS seeing FELV vaccine induced sarcomas) DR. GLICKMAN: Monitoring the ratio of vaccination site to nonvaccination site sarcomas is a good indicator of change, even if numbers of submissions of masses to laboratories vary. Results of one study clearly indicate that the ratio of vaccination site sarcomas to nonvaccination site sarcomas seen in a typical diagnostic laboratory has increased dramatically. In 1989, the ratio was 0.54, meaning there were half as many vaccination site sarcomas as there were nonvaccination site sarcomas. A year later, the ratio was 1.0; it more than doubled. In 1991, the ratio was 1.47; in 1992, it was 1.86; in 1993, it was 2.6; and in 1994, it was 4.3.27 We haven't followed it beyond that. This type of data can be collected from various laboratories to see if there is concordance and to get an idea of whether the problem is getting worse or getting better. and this, from lower on the same page, not directly related to the question of if there is newer evidence, but yet this is a respected veterinary professional's opinion on the need for the FELV vaccine, and thus I feel it deserves to be read by anyone considering using this vaccine (especially since I was just pointing this out in my last reply, without the source to quote from): What guidance can we provide to veterinary practitioners? DR. SCHULTZ: Because adjuvanted FeLV vaccines have been implicated in vaccine-associated sarcoma development, I suggest limiting FeLV vaccination even beyond the current AAFP/AFM recommendations. There is a strict age-related susceptibility to FeLV. Approximately 90% of kittens younger than three weeks old will become persistently infected when sufficiently challenged. Between three weeks and three months of age, approximately 50% will become infected when similarly challenged. Between three months and approximately nine months of age, the number decreases to approximately 30%, and over a year of age, the number is 15%. Results of an independent study 66 indicates this, as do results of every manufacturer of an FeLV vaccine. For FeLV, my current recommendation is to vaccinate the kitten that is at risk, and virtually all kittens are at risk. You can rarely determine what a kitten's lifestyle is going to be, and kittens are at the greatest risk of infection because of the age-related resistance to FeLV infection that develops in cats as they mature. If the cat is still at
Re: Questions and concerns
As far as nervous chewing - our vet prescribed ovaban tablets. They seem to work but another vet says they can cause diabetes. What is this groups opinion on this? I recall years ago they also gave ovaban to me for male cat I had adopted. He was aggressive and they said it would calm him down. We have3 cats out of the 14 that have skin problems.Sneezy pulls fur out on her hind quarters,Frodo has dandruff real bad, and then there is Cassie - she has licked the hair from her hind legs. All were fixed fairly young, except the Sneezy, the one who chews her hind quarters. She is also Cassie's mother. Frodo, the one with dandruff is very heavy and he seems to have allergies. Long haired and was bottle fed. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: Leslie Lawther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Mar 8, 2007 3:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Questions and concerns Glad someone brought up Amitriptyline! I have a few very nervous cats and they were prescribed Amitriptyline. I have taken them off the medication because it makes them too tired to be nervous! Has anyone ridden out the side effects to see if they do, in fact, go away after some time?? I always revert back to the "quality" versus "quantity" - I would not want to live zonked out Leslie =^..^= On 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Medicating with amitriptyline (sp?) helps nervous cats lots of times. Prozac is alsosometimes used.As for the FELV vaccine, I don't believe in giving it to adult cats at all. Healthyadult cats develop natural immunity as they approach adulthood. The only time I woulduse it were if I had a kitten under 1 year old that I knew was going to be exposed to FELV. Then, I would give one shot, and never again. There are no studies that suggestthat repeated vaccines increase immunity, and in fact, most trials show that mostvaccines produce immunity for life, or at least for many years (depending on the vaccine). (you'll note that us humans don't have to go in for annual smallpox andrubella vaccines)As for rabies, I would not give it more than once every 3 years, and I would NOT usean adjuvanted vaccine, so that means it would have to be Merial's Purevax rabies, as that is currently the ONLY non-advuvanted rabies vaccine. Of course, you have yourlocal and state laws to consider with regards to the rabies vaccine, most placesrequire it legally.More info on vaccines can be found at: http://ucat.us/vaccines.htmlPhaewrynhttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources-- Leslie =^..^=To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded.That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: False positive and negative?
Run and find a new vet!!! Your current one is not up to date on FeLV. You can get a good idea of which vet might be up to date by calling some vets in your area and asking them personally over the phone what their philosophy is on treating FeLV. Thank God for Nebs you did not listen to your vet. Good for you for listening to your gut, girl! You found a great place for info. on this virus, and I haven't read the other posts yet, but I know a lot of info. has probably already been given out. Everyone here is great. You will need to retest Nebs in a few months to see if he is indeed positive. Do you know how he may have contracted it? Has he been outside by himself any? Gotten into any fights in the past? Answers to your questions: Yes, absolutely the tests can be wrong. Yes, a cat can go back and forth between illnesses if they are FeLV positive. The most important thing is to keep your kitty stress free and feed him a great diet. I feed mine Innova Evo dry and wet. Most of us know here exactly what you are saying about not listening to your vet as the final word. Many of us have learned the hard way, after the fact. I think it's important that we educate everyone we can about that fact and about FeLV. Please keep us posted on your furbaby and feel free to ask any questions you have, no matter how crazy they may sound. :) Wendy Dallas, Tx Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather
Re: Questions and concerns
Well, don't try Prozac, it makes them much more zombie like than the Amitriptyline does... just FYI. I think zombie is preferable to hiding under the bed scared for life, too paranoid to even come out to eat or pee, which describes my Miranda cat. That's not much of a quality of life either, IMO. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
Re: Questions and concerns
*Mine is fear aggressive. They growl and strike out of fear... which causes everyone to pick on her more... and as a result there is nothing I can do but separate her which isn't fair either. But I agree, being tired is better than being so frightened that you won't come out to eat or pee...* *Leslie =^..^=* On 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, don't try Prozac, it makes them much more zombie like than the Amitriptyline does... just FYI. I think zombie is preferable to hiding under the bed scared for life, too paranoid to even come out to eat or pee, which describes my Miranda cat. That's not much of a quality of life either, IMO. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: Questions and concerns
She has gotten to where she eats if I put food under the bed with her, still struggling to try to find a safe litterbox though. The others like to gang up on her, and they have stalked her so much that she's just a wreck. Our goal some day (when we hit the lottery, LOL) is to build her her own room, with big picture windows, an outdoor enclosure, TV, cat tree, and her own twin sized bed to hide under. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
Re: Questions and concerns
there's a brand-new drug out for the nervous chewing, that a vet i respect a lot has had good results with -- i'll have to go through the Chat Week transcripts to find the info it's a merial drug, that's all i can remember right now! On 3/8/07, Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as nervous chewing - our vet prescribed ovaban tablets. They seem to work but another vet says they can cause diabetes. What is this groups opinion on this? I recall years ago they also gave ovaban to me for male cat I had adopted. He was aggressive and they said it would calm him down. We have 3 cats out of the 14 that have skin problems. Sneezy pulls fur out on her hind quarters, Frodo has dandruff real bad, and then there is Cassie - she has licked the hair from her hind legs. All were fixed fairly young, except the Sneezy, the one who chews her hind quarters. She is also Cassie's mother. Frodo, the one with dandruff is very heavy and he seems to have allergies. Long haired and was bottle fed. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: Leslie Lawther Sent: Mar 8, 2007 3:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Questions and concerns *Glad someone brought up Amitriptyline! I have a few very nervous cats and they were prescribed Amitriptyline. I have taken them off the medication because it makes them too tired to be nervous! Has anyone ridden out the side effects to see if they do, in fact, go away after some time?? I always revert back to the quality versus quantity - I would not want to live zonked out * *Leslie =^..^=* On 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Medicating with amitriptyline (sp?) helps nervous cats lots of times. Prozac is also sometimes used. As for the FELV vaccine, I don't believe in giving it to adult cats at all. Healthy adult cats develop natural immunity as they approach adulthood. The only time I would use it were if I had a kitten under 1 year old that I knew was going to be exposed to FELV. Then, I would give one shot, and never again. There are no studies that suggest that repeated vaccines increase immunity, and in fact, most trials show that most vaccines produce immunity for life, or at least for many years (depending on the vaccine). (you'll note that us humans don't have to go in for annual smallpox and rubella vaccines) As for rabies, I would not give it more than once every 3 years, and I would NOT use an adjuvanted vaccine, so that means it would have to be Merial's Purevax rabies, as that is currently the ONLY non-advuvanted rabies vaccine. Of course, you have your local and state laws to consider with regards to the rabies vaccine, most places require it legally. More info on vaccines can be found at: http://ucat.us/vaccines.html Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Questions and concerns
i have an under-the-bed litterbox for my under-the-bed cats. obviously, it's a rather high bed, and they're rather low cats! On 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She has gotten to where she eats if I put food under the bed with her, still struggling to try to find a safe litterbox though. The others like to gang up on her, and they have stalked her so much that she's just a wreck. Our goal some day (when we hit the lottery, LOL) is to build her her own room, with big picture windows, an outdoor enclosure, TV, cat tree, and her own twin sized bed to hide under. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Questions and concerns
mysti really perked up when i moved her out from under the bed where she was cowering, and put her into a condo cage--she could jump up and look out the window, she could visit with all her friends on her OWN terms--she could play pawsies or not, she could get as close as she wanted, but still feel safe. after about six months, as usual i left the door open as i was cleaning her box, and she came out and has been out for more than 201/2 years now. she STILL spends most of her time under the bed, in her furnished condo with pool table, spa, cable tv and broadband (!), but she's not terrified anymore--she comes out to cuddle when she wants, she doesn't need to be fed and watered under there, she has quiet parties with her friends.. On 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, don't try Prozac, it makes them much more zombie like than the Amitriptyline does... just FYI. I think zombie is preferable to hiding under the bed scared for life, too paranoid to even come out to eat or pee, which describes my Miranda cat. That's not much of a quality of life either, IMO. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Questions and concerns
So did I, apparently, until I got under there and cleaned this past weekend. :-( TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have an under-the-bed litterbox for my under-the-bed cats. obviously, it's a rather high bed, and they're rather low cats! On 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She has gotten to where she eats if I put food under the bed with her, still struggling to try to find a safe litterbox though. The others like to gang up on her, and they have stalked her so much that she's just a wreck. Our goal some day (when we hit the lottery, LOL) is to build her her own room, with big picture windows, an outdoor enclosure, TV, cat tree, and her own twin sized bed to hide under. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Questions and concerns
yeah, well, i meant a REAL one. with a BOX. (had the other kind, too, at various point, unfortunately!) On 3/8/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So did I, apparently, until I got under there and cleaned this past weekend. :-( *TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: i have an under-the-bed litterbox for my under-the-bed cats. obviously, it's a rather high bed, and they're rather low cats! On 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She has gotten to where she eats if I put food under the bed with her, still struggling to try to find a safe litterbox though. The others like to gang up on her, and they have stalked her so much that she's just a wreck. Our goal some day (when we hit the lottery, LOL) is to build her her own room, with big picture windows, an outdoor enclosure, TV, cat tree, and her own twin sized bed to hide under. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Questions and concerns
*LOL... sorry, not funny, but I couldn't figure out what you meant at first! I find lots-o hair balls under the bed - been lucky enough to not have cats who mistake for a litter box (yes, knocking on wood!)... always a fun task to clean under there. yuck.* *Leslie =^..^=* On 3/8/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So did I, apparently, until I got under there and cleaned this past weekend. :-( *TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: i have an under-the-bed litterbox for my under-the-bed cats. obviously, it's a rather high bed, and they're rather low cats! On 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She has gotten to where she eats if I put food under the bed with her, still struggling to try to find a safe litterbox though. The others like to gang up on her, and they have stalked her so much that she's just a wreck. Our goal some day (when we hit the lottery, LOL) is to build her her own room, with big picture windows, an outdoor enclosure, TV, cat tree, and her own twin sized bed to hide under. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: Questions and concerns
my boyfriend would never be able to sleep with poo under the bed. he's very sensitive, he barely can cope with a box in the bedroom at all. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
ovaban
So no one here has heard much about the use of ovaban for itching and calming them down? Debbie p.s. forgive me for not always signing my name. I am usually in the middle of doing stuff when typing. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: 3/5/2007 9:41 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: 3/5/2007 9:41 AM
Re: ovaban
used to be used for birth control in dogs, back in the 60s and 70s On 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: personally, I've never heard of it at all. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
RE: ovaban
I've used it, but will have to remember who for and what for! Gloria At 09:13 PM 3/8/2007, you wrote: It's a hormone pill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: ovaban personally, I've never heard of it at all. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlhttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: 3/5/2007 9:41 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: 3/5/2007 9:41 AM
Re: Questions and concerns
At 09:43 AM 3/8/2007, you wrote: I sure do not Kelly All 14 of our babies seem to be ok after their testing and FELV shots. Does everyone feel like cats should get this vaccine every year I have read some controversial stuff on this. These cats do not go outside. Also, how does everyone here feel about getting rabies shots for indoor cats? Our vet keeps talking us into these and I just don't feel like they are that important. Even the other yearly shots they get I often wonder if they are necessary every year. I also wanted to ask about our cat Cassie. She is a gray tabby. She is very high strung. She likes to sit on your lap but if you try to move her she growls and gets nervous. She has lost some weight lately, but she eats good. She also has licked herself bald in a few areas. Any ideas? She tested negative for FELV like the others. I was wondering if there was any good cat vitamins or anything that might help build her up. I really think she is always afraid someone is going to pounce on her so she doesn't eat like she should. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/713 - Release Date: 3/7/2007
