Too many cats? Never! I say.

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

When I moved in to care for my mother a bit ago she said, oh, my  
Lord!  We can't tell people we have so many cats!  (We had seven  
together.)  So I said, when people ask, you tell them that you have  
four and when they ask me I'll tell them that I have three.  And  
nobody will remember anyway!  (Besides, everyone we know is a giant  
animal lover!)

Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Apr 16, 2007, at 6:13 AM, Marylyn wrote:

That is exactly what the City of Louisville (KY) did.  They just  
passed a law limiting the number of outside dogs to 3 unless you  
have over a 1/2 acre yard (rare).  I really don't know what people  
are going to do because there was no clause to grandfather larger  
dog families in.






 If you have men  
who will exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter  
of compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise  
with their fellow man.
   
St. Francis

- Original Message -
From: Gina WN
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:08 AM
Subject: Re: OT: To shelter owners/volunteers-your opinion needed  
on sitevisit for Maltese shelter


We have a four cat limit in our county. :(

Gina


Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, I think pet limit laws are archaic and silly and should be  
abolished.


But that's beside the point.

What if the city code were 6 dogs and 5 cats and tomorrow they changed
it to 3 dogs and 2 cats? I mean, you can't predict the future. What
if they move somewhere where the code is only 4 dogs?

How many of us have had animals

1. in excess of city codes
2. in excess of what was allowed by our landlord
3. in secret from our landlord
4...well, I think you get the point.

Fortunately we don't have animal limit laws here, though the shelter
limits me to 10 (personal and foster) animals at a time.

They only count litters as 1, though. So all my litters, including
the ones that are almost 2 years old, I count as 1. That's how I get
around it. Heh.

On 4/12/07, wendy wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I went on my first site visit tonight with my friend
> who lives here in San Antonio. The only real concern
> she and I both had were that the family already has 5
> dogs and 5 cats. They live in a regular subdivision
> home in San Antonio (regular size plot-nothing too
> large, although the backyard is nicely sized). The
> municipal code says that no more than 5 dogs and 3
> cats be in one home at a time. So our question,
> especially to shelter owners/volunteers, is this: if
> you know adopting a dog out, even if it's to a good
> family, will put that family in violation of city
> codes, would you do it? My friend is not the one
> making the decision; she's just reporting the
> information to the shelter. We were just curious as
> to what your thoughts are on this.
>
> :)
> Wendy
>
> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens  
can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has!"

> ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~
>
>
>
>
>  
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Re: finally, the homemade-cat-food chat transcript

[Susan Hoffman]

Having just shared my dinner -- frozen turkey divan with alfredo sauce and 
parmesan -- with Little Sister Fuzzy Toes, it occurs to me that it might not be 
that difficult for SOME cats to avoid commercial catfood.  A good 
vitamin/mineral supplement and whatever I'm having should work.

elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Thank you for this, Mary 
Christine.
   
  elizabeth

 
  On 4/16/07, TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   but if you're looking 
for quick fixes, one-size-fits-all, it's not here. this talks about the 
basics of nutrition and how to make sure you meet each cat's individual needs. 

http://www.cathobbyist.com/articles/HomemadeDietsForCats.html

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Re: Camilla and Spencer

[C & J]

Sending prayers for Camilla and Spencer.  I'm hoping they are able to pull 
through this.  It is so hard, especially when a favorite kitty becomes ill.

Cassandra.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sherry DeHaan 
  To: Felvtalk 
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:39 PM
  Subject: Camilla and Spencer


  We are in great need of prayers and good thoughts for these two wonderful 
babies.
  Camilla has gone down hill fast and is anemic,she is also one of Dr. Jens all 
time fav kitties.
  Spencer has the same thing that Diesel just lost his battle to.But his isn't 
as bad it is only swollen on one side of his throat.She is trying all that she 
can for these babies.THanks so much.
  Sherry


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Re: Stitch - Questions!

[wendy]

lololol...you guys are so damn funny!!!  thanks for
the laugh.  turducken cracks me up!  

--- Joe Reil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The other thing with the Merrick's is, at least
> among
> the 6 or 7 flavors they had available at my pet
> store,
> about half of them contained some sort of shellfish
> (Crab, Crawfish or Lobster).
> 
> My wife is severely allergic to shellfish and we
> don't
> bring any into the house, so that ruled out about
> half
> of what they had available right up front.
> 
> Stitch seems to like the Pot Pie variety, trying
> something else tonight...
> 
> --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Mine like the merrick, but prefer certain flavors.
> > Favs are Grammy's Pot Pie and
> > Southern Delight. They seem to NOT like the
> > Turducken as much... but then would I
> > like something with the word "turd" in it's name
> > either? LOL!
> > 
> > Phaewryn
> > 
> > http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
> > Special Needs Cat Resources
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: Stitch - Questions!

[wendy]

LOLOLOL!!!  No, I don't think I'd like the
dandelions...

Glad Stitch is enjoying Merrick!

:)
Wendy

--- Joe Reil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Hi Joe,
> > 
> > I have seen several times on two different kitty
> > 'sites' that some cats don't like Merrick, so
> don't
> > be
> > surprised if Stitch won't eat it.  I hope he does,
> > because it's supposed to be good stuff, but if
> not,
> > there's other good stuff out there.  BTW...I could
> > use
> > your advice in making weekly supplies of salad for
> > myself...lol.  
> 
> Stitch seems to be enjoying the Merrick's just fine.
> She sniffed at it a little the first time I put some
> down and she was wolfing it down shortly thereafter.
> 
> As far as the "Iguana Salads", it was a good mix for
> an Iguana, but probably not as appetizing for a
> human.
> 
> I usually made up a week's supply at a time and it
> varied a little from week to week...   The usual mix
> was a leafy green, usually collards, sometimes
> parsley
> or dandelion greens, an "orange" veggie, usually
> carrots or squash, and then string beans, parsnips
> and
> some vitamin supplements mixed in on top of all
> that.
> 
> Into a blender they went.
> 
> Like I said, great for an Iguana, probably not a
> good
> mix for us, even though many of the individual
> ingredients could be tasty. :)
> 
> 
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Re: Camilla and Spencer

[wendy]

Prayers going out for both Camilla and Spencer.

:)
Wendy

--- Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We are in great need of prayers and good thoughts
> for these two wonderful babies.
>   Camilla has gone down hill fast and is anemic,she
> is also one of Dr. Jens all time fav kitties.
>   Spencer has the same thing that Diesel just lost
> his battle to.But his isn't as bad it is only
> swollen on one side of his throat.She is trying all
> that she can for these babies.THanks so much.
>   Sherry
> 
>
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Re: Camilla and Spencer

[TenHouseCats]

GLOW to all..



On 4/16/07, elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Saying prayers for these two dear ones, Sherry.

elizabeth


On 4/16/07, Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We are in great need of prayers and good thoughts for these two
> wonderful babies.
> Camilla has gone down hill fast and is anemic,she is also one of Dr.
> Jens all time fav kitties.
> Spencer has the same thing that Diesel just lost his battle to.But his
> isn't as bad it is only swollen on one side of his throat.She is trying
> all that she can for these babies.THanks so much.
> Sherry
>
> --
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>
>




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Re: Camilla and Spencer

[elizabeth trent]

Saying prayers for these two dear ones, Sherry.

elizabeth


On 4/16/07, Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


We are in great need of prayers and good thoughts for these two wonderful
babies.
Camilla has gone down hill fast and is anemic,she is also one of Dr. Jens
all time fav kitties.
Spencer has the same thing that Diesel just lost his battle to.But his
isn't as bad it is only swollen on one side of his throat.She is trying
all that she can for these babies.THanks so much.
Sherry

--
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Check out new cars at Yahoo! 
Autos.

Camilla and Spencer

[Sherry DeHaan]

We are in great need of prayers and good thoughts for these two wonderful 
babies.
  Camilla has gone down hill fast and is anemic,she is also one of Dr. Jens all 
time fav kitties.
  Spencer has the same thing that Diesel just lost his battle to.But his isn't 
as bad it is only swollen on one side of his throat.She is trying all that she 
can for these babies.THanks so much.
  Sherry

   
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Re: more recalls

[elizabeth trent]

I'm of the Milton Friedman school of thought so I couldn't disagree
more...the free market forces will take care of themselves - as they are
doing now.  That being said...as a free market capitalist who votes with
their dollars...I vote not to buy from China.

elizabeth


On 4/16/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thus the effects of a global economy...things were so
much simpler when we weren't buying over 75% of our
goods from overseas.  I think it's dangerous to our
very existence to set up our national economy in this
manner.  Here's to buying U.S. made only!!!  And I
will not be buying anything Chinese if I can help it.
So much controversy with that country.

:)
Wendy

--- Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The death and sickness of what we are dealing with
> is a the real
> nightmare.  We've already been surprised about how
> few
> factories/companies/suppliers are truly involved in
> the making of our
> processed pet foods.  It can be done.  I don't know
> how long it would
> take to track this sort of data base, who knows,
> maybe someone is in the
> process as I type this.  It's already too late for
> thousands of dogs and
> cats, I'm very sorry to say that it appears
> thousands more will
> experience the same fate before we get to the bottom
> of it, if we ever do.
> Nina
>
> wendy wrote:
> > It's not just as simple as comparing ingredients
> when
> > you're talking about this many companies.  They
> have
> > to compare all of the following: each ingredient,
> from
> > which company each came from, and then for each
> > individual ingredient, they need a list of
> ingredients
> > that made that ingredient, and which companies
> > provided each of those, and so on...until they get
> > down to the raw ingredients for everything that
> made
> > that product what it is.  Then they also have to
> look
> > at batches/dates for all of those, and all the
> > manufacturing facilities involved.  It's a
> logistical
> > nightmare...
> >
> > :)
> > Wendy
>
>
>


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Re: more recalls

[wendy]

Thus the effects of a global economy...things were so
much simpler when we weren't buying over 75% of our
goods from overseas.  I think it's dangerous to our
very existence to set up our national economy in this
manner.  Here's to buying U.S. made only!!!  And I
will not be buying anything Chinese if I can help it. 
So much controversy with that country.

:)
Wendy

--- Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The death and sickness of what we are dealing with
> is a the real 
> nightmare.  We've already been surprised about how
> few 
> factories/companies/suppliers are truly involved in
> the making of our 
> processed pet foods.  It can be done.  I don't know
> how long it would 
> take to track this sort of data base, who knows,
> maybe someone is in the 
> process as I type this.  It's already too late for
> thousands of dogs and 
> cats, I'm very sorry to say that it appears
> thousands more will 
> experience the same fate before we get to the bottom
> of it, if we ever do.
> Nina
> 
> wendy wrote:
> > It's not just as simple as comparing ingredients
> when
> > you're talking about this many companies.  They
> have
> > to compare all of the following: each ingredient,
> from
> > which company each came from, and then for each
> > individual ingredient, they need a list of
> ingredients
> > that made that ingredient, and which companies
> > provided each of those, and so on...until they get
> > down to the raw ingredients for everything that
> made
> > that product what it is.  Then they also have to
> look
> > at batches/dates for all of those, and all the
> > manufacturing facilities involved.  It's a
> logistical
> > nightmare...  
> >
> > :)
> > Wendy
> 
> 
> 


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Re: finally, the homemade-cat-food chat transcript

[elizabeth trent]

Thank you for this, Mary Christine.

elizabeth


On 4/16/07, TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


but if you're looking for quick fixes, one-size-fits-all, it's not
here. this talks about the basics of nutrition and how to make sure you
meet each cat's individual needs.

http://www.cathobbyist.com/articles/HomemadeDietsForCats.html

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Could VO help an asymptomatic FeLV+ cat?

[Lance]

Hello all,

I'm sorry that I haven't been posting any lately. I've seen some sad  
news, and my heart goes out to all who have lost feline friends in  
the last few weeks.


I have a question that will be hard to answer. Really, I'm looking  
for thoughts and opinions, since I don't think we know enough about  
Virbagen Omega and feleuk. My vet was recently approved by the FDA to  
import the standard course of VO for Ember. I have put money aside  
for quite awhile, hoping that we would get this chance.


The thing is, Ember is, for the most part, asymptomatic. She did have  
an odd spell of anemia (down to 19 last October and subsequently back  
to 35 for the last few vet visits, starting in November). She also  
had especially low wbc at the same time, which is now back to low- 
normal. She seems to have developed a food allergy to Innova EVO dry,  
though she tolerates EVO canned (and now Felidae) just fine.


Ember will have another ELISA to verify her status. If she is still  
positive, do you think we should go ahead with the VO, even though  
she seems to be doing pretty well?



Thanks,

Lance

finally, the homemade-cat-food chat transcript

[TenHouseCats]

but if you're looking for quick fixes, one-size-fits-all, it's not here.
this talks about the basics of nutrition and how to make sure you meet each
cat's individual needs.

http://www.cathobbyist.com/articles/HomemadeDietsForCats.html

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Maybe That'll Make The Difference

MaryChristine

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Fwd: ACT NOW: FDA Forbidding AllAlternative HealthCare

[Lance]

This was sent to me by Ember's homeopathic vet. It may be of interest  
to some of you.


Lance

Begin forwarded message:



 I am sending this on, to those of you who may be inclined to  
be activists.  If you value your ability to make rational decisions  
in your own health care, or wish to preserve your right to purchase  
and consume supplements, herbals, or seek alternative health care,  
please take a moment to send your comments on this critical issue.   
Big Pharma croneyism, and Big Brother restrictions on our health  
decisions, should not be allowed.

THANKS!

April 6, 2007



HEALTH FREEDOM ALERT

Your Action is Urgently Needed





Before I tell you why your health freedom is at serious risk right  
now and what you need to do to protect it, I want to thank each and  
every one of you who responded so generously to the First Quarter  
Fund Raising campaign we just concluded.  We asked you to cover our  
operating budget of $85,000 for the first quarter of 2007 and you  
did.The amazing thing is that we raised EXACTLY $85,000 on the  
nose.We got  donations in odd amounts like $7 and of $11 and  
round numbers, too.  At the end, the total was precisely an exact  
match with the amount we needed.  In all my time working with  
humanitarian organizations I have never seen anything like this.   
So a heart-felt thanks to all of you.


If you missed our fund raiser and you want to donate now, that's  
fine, too.  Just click here    (http:// 
www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=189 www.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp? 
key=316466142&url_num=2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.healthfreedomusa.org% 
2Findex.php%3Fpage_id%3D189> )to make a tax deductible donation to  
natural health and health freedom!  And thank you!




Houston, We Have a Problem!



The US FDA is at it again.  They have been notorious for decades  
for their biased attacks and uneven handling of natural, non-drug/ 
surgery/radiation based health options.  This time, though, they
are playing for keeps.



The goal is simple: through a "Guidance" about the regulation of  
"CAM" (which they conveniently define as "Complementary and  
Alternative MEDICINE" the FDA hopes to serve the interests of Big  
Pharma by eliminating all CAM practices and products.  ALL of them.



Here's how this deadly game is played:




1. By using the term "Medicine" rather than "Modality" for CAM  
practices, the FDA sets the stage so that anyone who is not a  
licensed physician is breaking the law by using these modalities  
since they are therefore 'practicing medicine without a license'.




2.  By using the term "treatment" rather than "therapy", the FDA  
limits those who can perform these practices to licensed physicians  
and, again, anyone who is not a licensed physician is breaking the  
law by using these modalities since only licensed practitioners can  
treat.  So people using these modalities are therefore 'practicing  
medicine without a license'.




3. By using the terms "Medicine" and "treatment" instead of  
"Modalities" and "therapy",  all substances, including vitamins,  
minerals, herbs, co-factors, etc., automatically become untested  
drugs since they are being used to prevent, treat, mitigate or cure  
disease states. Such use can only legally take place with FDA  
approved drugs.




Here's How We Protect CAM Practices,
Practitioners and Products



Numbers.  Sheer volume of response.  Nothing more and nothing  
less.  NOW is the time to act.  Our window of opportunity slams  
shut on April 30, 2007.




http://tinyurl.com/2u7ghc 



That is the link which allows you to send a comment directly to the  
FDA about their deadly "Guidance".  Will it matter?  Yes, if  
millions of people respond.  So I am asking you to take this "viral".



Here is what you need to do
NOW
if you value your freedom:



1. Click on the link below and add your name to the letter.  When  
you click "Send" it will be electronically delivered to the FDA  
docket site and posted.



2. Write a brief note (or copy the information in this email)  
including this link , http://tinyurl.com/2u7ghc www.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp? 
key=316466142&url_num=4&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2F2u7ghc>  ,  
and mail it to every one you can.  In your email please:



a. Include everyone you know and tell them that their freedom to  
choose their own health modalities and options is under serious  
attack.



b. Send the same email to the the companies which make the  
vitamins, minerals and herbs you use and ask them to send it out to  
their entire mailing list.



c. Impress upon the people you contact that we are facing a  
virulent and highly organized assault on ALL natural products and  
proc

Re: more recalls

[Marylyn]

Easy..Nodoable..Yes.  Especially with computers and what is 
at stake.  They just don't want to up the information and/or admit how long 
this has been going on or whatever else.. (my opinion).  Yes, it is 
a nightmare for them but much more of a night terror for those of us who may 
be affectedand for them if we do not return to their foods.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: more recalls



It's not just as simple as comparing ingredients when
you're talking about this many companies.  They have
to compare all of the following: each ingredient, from
which company each came from, and then for each
individual ingredient, they need a list of ingredients
that made that ingredient, and which companies
provided each of those, and so on...until they get
down to the raw ingredients for everything that made
that product what it is.  Then they also have to look
at batches/dates for all of those, and all the
manufacturing facilities involved.  It's a logistical
nightmare...

:)
Wendy

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change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has!"


~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~


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Re: more recalls

[Nina]

The death and sickness of what we are dealing with is a the real 
nightmare.  We've already been surprised about how few 
factories/companies/suppliers are truly involved in the making of our 
processed pet foods.  It can be done.  I don't know how long it would 
take to track this sort of data base, who knows, maybe someone is in the 
process as I type this.  It's already too late for thousands of dogs and 
cats, I'm very sorry to say that it appears thousands more will 
experience the same fate before we get to the bottom of it, if we ever do.

Nina

wendy wrote:

It's not just as simple as comparing ingredients when
you're talking about this many companies.  They have
to compare all of the following: each ingredient, from
which company each came from, and then for each
individual ingredient, they need a list of ingredients
that made that ingredient, and which companies
provided each of those, and so on...until they get
down to the raw ingredients for everything that made
that product what it is.  Then they also have to look
at batches/dates for all of those, and all the
manufacturing facilities involved.  It's a logistical
nightmare...  


:)
Wendy

RE: more recalls

[wendy]

It's not just as simple as comparing ingredients when
you're talking about this many companies.  They have
to compare all of the following: each ingredient, from
which company each came from, and then for each
individual ingredient, they need a list of ingredients
that made that ingredient, and which companies
provided each of those, and so on...until they get
down to the raw ingredients for everything that made
that product what it is.  Then they also have to look
at batches/dates for all of those, and all the
manufacturing facilities involved.  It's a logistical
nightmare...  

:)
Wendy

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world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" 

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RE: To Nina: Re: more recalls

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

How about all purina products - since they are a major distributor, you
would think they checked all their products already?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 2:56 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: To Nina: Re: more recalls

I don't know Nina.  I'm wondering the same thing.  My
friend this weekend just bought the Natural Balance
(duck) for her dog that has allergies.  He wolfed the
first few nuggets down that she gave him.  I saw the
recall today and called her right away to let her know
to keep an eye out.  There is no wheat gluten in it as
you said.  It looks like they are voluntarily pulling
the venison formula due to customer complaints, which
I think it very responsible of them, considering they
aren't taking any time to verify the info. beforehand.
 It could just be a false alarm for all we know if
it's solely based on consumer complaint.  I want to
know asap if there really is a problem and if so, what
it is!!!  I hope it's not in our food too!  Maybe it
does have to do with the Vitamin D thing they are
talking about and not the wheat gluten at all!

:)
Wendy

--- Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Okay, now I'm really scared.  I went to look up the
> Natural Balance 
> website ingredients list of venison & fresh green
> pea dry formula for 
> cats and as I suspected, there is no wheat gluten
> listed!  What the Hell 
> gives??  I haven't checked the other dog/cat
> formulas being questioned 
> yet.  Thanks for the heads up.  I don't know what to
> think.  I'll keep 
> watching the website as they've promised to update
> us.  I hate that they 
> state in caps that these are the only foods
> affected.  I guess they mean 
> so far.
> Feeling sick,
> Nina
> 
>  
> TenHouseCats wrote:
> > www.howl911.com  
> 


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To Nina: Re: more recalls

[wendy]

I don't know Nina.  I'm wondering the same thing.  My
friend this weekend just bought the Natural Balance
(duck) for her dog that has allergies.  He wolfed the
first few nuggets down that she gave him.  I saw the
recall today and called her right away to let her know
to keep an eye out.  There is no wheat gluten in it as
you said.  It looks like they are voluntarily pulling
the venison formula due to customer complaints, which
I think it very responsible of them, considering they
aren't taking any time to verify the info. beforehand.
 It could just be a false alarm for all we know if
it's solely based on consumer complaint.  I want to
know asap if there really is a problem and if so, what
it is!!!  I hope it's not in our food too!  Maybe it
does have to do with the Vitamin D thing they are
talking about and not the wheat gluten at all!

:)
Wendy

--- Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Okay, now I'm really scared.  I went to look up the
> Natural Balance 
> website ingredients list of venison & fresh green
> pea dry formula for 
> cats and as I suspected, there is no wheat gluten
> listed!  What the Hell 
> gives??  I haven't checked the other dog/cat
> formulas being questioned 
> yet.  Thanks for the heads up.  I don't know what to
> think.  I'll keep 
> watching the website as they've promised to update
> us.  I hate that they 
> state in caps that these are the only foods
> affected.  I guess they mean 
> so far.
> Feeling sick,
> Nina
> 
>  
> TenHouseCats wrote:
> > www.howl911.com  
> 


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Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of you consideringpurchasing one

[Marylyn]

Brewer's yeast works great for shedding dogs..it has been a while since I 
tried it on a cat.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of you 
consideringpurchasing one




It's performed great, but as far as how much it holds,
I haven't opened it yet to clean it out.  I need to
remember to do that tonight.  It's a small thing, but
bigger than I thought it would be-at least 1 ft. in
diamter.  I will try to remember to let you know after
I take a look.  Mine are shedding like crazy too!

:)
Wendy

--- elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm curious -- how much does it hold?  I love my
purple dyson for animal
hair but so help me - we're such a shedding bunch I
have to empty it
frequently.  how does it perform?

elizabeth


On 4/15/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> Just wanted to let you guys know that Roombie (our
new
> Roomba Sage for pet owners) went on it's maiden
voyage
> this morning.  The kitties were somewhat alarmed
at
> first, but by the time it cleaned for 45 minutes
and
> docked itself, they weren't too concerned with it.
> Smookie ran over to it when it stopped and has
been
> trying to get the brushes out from underneath it.
> It's too cute.
>
> So far, Roombie did a bang-up job of vacuuming my
tile
> floors-the living room, kitchen, and eating area
along
> with the front entry way and hallway leading from
> that.  That's as far as it could go since all the
> doors were shut along the hallway.  I was very
> surprised with how well it patterned itself while
> cleaning.  It got in and out of tight spaces.  It
even
> tried to eat Smookie's feather toy, but I rescued
it.
>
>
> We paid $219 for it at the irobot website, which
is
> the company that makes Roomba.  A better deal than
at
> Linens and Things or Bed, Bath, and Beyond.  They
> have a pretty decent special, which includes free
> shipping, and a free home dock (normally $60);
fairly
> cheap for a Roomba.  Normally, I am a very frugal
> person, but I have bought three vacuum-cleaners in
the
> past few years at about $50 each at Walmart, and
all
> have died.  Plus, I don't actually have to do the
> vacuuming myself, so that itself was worth the
extra
> money.  With the tile, as opposed to the carpet we
had
> that hid a lot of dirt, every speck of dirt shows
up,
> and I'm having to sweep every day as it is.  So
all in
> all, I'm happy as of day one.  We'll see after a
month
> or so if Roombie was worth it.
>
> :)
> Wendy
>
> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
committed citizens can
> change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that
ever has!"
>
> ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~
>
>
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Re: more recalls

[Nina]

It seems to me that you could feed all the info of every recalled 
product into a data base program, (facilities where produced/ingredients 
from the same source/etc), and start to get some sort of correlations 
that we could actually use to figure out what/which products/companies 
have tainted sources in common.  You and I can't do that because we 
aren't privy to the basic information, but our governmental "guardians" 
are and can.  Either they are as incompetent as they appear, or they are 
protecting corporate business over our welfare.  Could these be our only 
choices for an explanation of their ineptitude?  Stupid or corrupt??  
Not very comforting or reassuring, whichever it is. 
Nina


TenHouseCats wrote:
i think that's the whole point--because they really don't know what 
the cause of the problem was the wheat gluten is SUSPECTED and 
the melamine is SUSPECTED but they didn't announce the final 
results of what poisoned the spinach from last summer until the early 
days of the pet-food recall, and that was MONTHS later. how can 
you define safe when they don't really have a clue what caused the 
problem?


as i mentioned earlier, it makes me very very nervous that none of the 
"safe" pet foods are not advertising like crazy to take advantage of 
the situation--and it is CERTAINLY not because of the well-known 
ethics in the advertising world--makes me suspect that they realize 
that they might be next of the list of what's NOT safe  

Re: more recalls

[TenHouseCats]

i think that's the whole point--because they really don't know what the
cause of the problem was the wheat gluten is SUSPECTED and the
melamine is SUSPECTED but they didn't announce the final results of what
poisoned the spinach from last summer until the early days of the pet-food
recall, and that was MONTHS later. how can you define safe when they
don't really have a clue what caused the problem?

as i mentioned earlier, it makes me very very nervous that none of the
"safe" pet foods are not advertising like crazy to take advantage of the
situation--and it is CERTAINLY not because of the well-known ethics in the
advertising world--makes me suspect that they realize that they might be
next of the list of what's NOT safe



On 4/16/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 It seems not making sense – they only tell you what not to give, but they
don't tell you what to give as it's proven safe – as long as you don't know
what's been tested, you will always have to wonder if the products you are
using is the next one on line..


 --

*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *TenHouseCats
*Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2007 1:58 PM
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* Re: more recalls



i don't know, hideyo--i just know that that site is one of, if not the
most, up-to-date site, and has links to just about everything that's come
out so far. you might just have to wander through it and see if there's
someplace with that info--unless someone else has found it?

MC

On 4/16/07, *Hideyo Yamamoto* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Is there a list somewhere which tells us what products they have so far
tested and which products have passed not just the one did not pass --


 --

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*Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2007 1:10 PM
*To:* FeLVTalk; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Subject:* more recalls



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RE: more recalls

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

It seems not making sense - they only tell you what not to give, but
they don't tell you what to give as it's proven safe - as long as you
don't know what's been tested, you will always have to wonder if the
products you are using is the next one on line..

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 1:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: more recalls

 

i don't know, hideyo--i just know that that site is one of, if not the
most, up-to-date site, and has links to just about everything that's
come out so far. you might just have to wander through it and see if
there's someplace with that info--unless someone else has found it? 

MC

On 4/16/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Is there a list somewhere which tells us what products they have so far
tested and which products have passed not just the one did not pass -- 

 

  _  

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 1:10 PM
To: FeLVTalk; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: more recalls

 

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Re: more recalls

[TenHouseCats]

i don't know, hideyo--i just know that that site is one of, if not the most,
up-to-date site, and has links to just about everything that's come out so
far. you might just have to wander through it and see if there's someplace
with that info--unless someone else has found it?

MC

On 4/16/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Is there a list somewhere which tells us what products they have so far
tested and which products have passed not just the one did not pass --


 --

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *TenHouseCats
*Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2007 1:10 PM
*To:* FeLVTalk; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Subject:* more recalls



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RE: more recalls

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Is there a list somewhere which tells us what products they have so far
tested and which products have passed not just the one did not pass -- 

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 1:10 PM
To: FeLVTalk; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: more recalls

 

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Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those ofyouconsideringpurchasing one

[Marylyn]

Thanks.  I'll see what I can find.  It sounds great. 






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Melissa Lind 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:00 AM
  Subject: RE: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those 
ofyouconsideringpurchasing one


  Marylyn, I have this rubber spongy thing that my friend gave me. They're 
cheap, and I love it! It's grayish black and kind of shaped like a rectangle, 
but with a curved inner part for you to grip. I think she got it from Drs. 
Foster and Smith, but I'm not really sure. But, this thing takes the fur and 
rolls it up when you drag is across the upholstery. This is the only way I can 
vacuum my furniture-I have to do this first which gets up the majority of the 
hair, but the stuff that's left is actually vacuum-able. I also bought some 
vacuum spray stuff that's supposed to allow the hair to not stick to furniture, 
but it was a mess and didn't really work, and it would get in places I didn't 
want. By far, I stand my rubber thing!



  I'll look later for a link to one, I couldn't find one on the Drs. Website, 
but I know it's out there somewhere. But, I did read while looking that many 
people use a rubber glove. I've never tried it. If you do, let us know!



  Melissa




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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn
  Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 6:47 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of 
youconsideringpurchasing one



  I saw something about rubber gloves (like for washing dishes) getting up fur 
on upholstery.  Has anyone had any experience with this?







   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
   from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
   will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
St. Francis

- Original Message - 

From: elizabeth trent 

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 6:34 PM

Subject: Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of you 
consideringpurchasing one



I'm curious -- how much does it hold?  I love my purple dyson for animal 
hair but so help me - we're such a shedding bunch I have to empty it 
frequently.  how does it perform?



elizabeth

 

On 4/15/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Hey guys,

Just wanted to let you guys know that Roombie (our new
Roomba Sage for pet owners) went on it's maiden voyage 
this morning.  The kitties were somewhat alarmed at
first, but by the time it cleaned for 45 minutes and
docked itself, they weren't too concerned with it.
Smookie ran over to it when it stopped and has been 
trying to get the brushes out from underneath it.
It's too cute.

So far, Roombie did a bang-up job of vacuuming my tile
floors-the living room, kitchen, and eating area along
with the front entry way and hallway leading from 
that.  That's as far as it could go since all the
doors were shut along the hallway.  I was very
surprised with how well it patterned itself while
cleaning.  It got in and out of tight spaces.  It even
tried to eat Smookie's feather toy, but I rescued it.


We paid $219 for it at the irobot website, which is
the company that makes Roomba.  A better deal than at
Linens and Things or Bed, Bath, and Beyond.  They 
have a pretty decent special, which includes free
shipping, and a free home dock (normally $60); fairly
cheap for a Roomba.  Normally, I am a very frugal
person, but I have bought three vacuum-cleaners in the 
past few years at about $50 each at Walmart, and all
have died.  Plus, I don't actually have to do the
vacuuming myself, so that itself was worth the extra
money.  With the tile, as opposed to the carpet we had 
that hid a lot of dirt, every speck of dirt shows up,
and I'm having to sweep every day as it is.  So all in
all, I'm happy as of day one.  We'll see after a month
or so if Roombie was worth it.

:)
Wendy

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has!"

 ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ 

Re: more recalls

[Nina]

Okay, now I'm really scared.  I went to look up the Natural Balance 
website ingredients list of venison & fresh green pea dry formula for 
cats and as I suspected, there is no wheat gluten listed!  What the Hell 
gives??  I haven't checked the other dog/cat formulas being questioned 
yet.  Thanks for the heads up.  I don't know what to think.  I'll keep 
watching the website as they've promised to update us.  I hate that they 
state in caps that these are the only foods affected.  I guess they mean 
so far.

Feeling sick,
Nina


TenHouseCats wrote:
www.howl911.com  

Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of you considering purchasing one

[wendy]

It's performed great, but as far as how much it holds,
I haven't opened it yet to clean it out.  I need to
remember to do that tonight.  It's a small thing, but
bigger than I thought it would be-at least 1 ft. in
diamter.  I will try to remember to let you know after
I take a look.  Mine are shedding like crazy too!

:)
Wendy

--- elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm curious -- how much does it hold?  I love my
> purple dyson for animal
> hair but so help me - we're such a shedding bunch I
> have to empty it
> frequently.  how does it perform?
> 
> elizabeth
> 
> 
> On 4/15/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > Just wanted to let you guys know that Roombie (our
> new
> > Roomba Sage for pet owners) went on it's maiden
> voyage
> > this morning.  The kitties were somewhat alarmed
> at
> > first, but by the time it cleaned for 45 minutes
> and
> > docked itself, they weren't too concerned with it.
> > Smookie ran over to it when it stopped and has
> been
> > trying to get the brushes out from underneath it.
> > It's too cute.
> >
> > So far, Roombie did a bang-up job of vacuuming my
> tile
> > floors-the living room, kitchen, and eating area
> along
> > with the front entry way and hallway leading from
> > that.  That's as far as it could go since all the
> > doors were shut along the hallway.  I was very
> > surprised with how well it patterned itself while
> > cleaning.  It got in and out of tight spaces.  It
> even
> > tried to eat Smookie's feather toy, but I rescued
> it.
> >
> >
> > We paid $219 for it at the irobot website, which
> is
> > the company that makes Roomba.  A better deal than
> at
> > Linens and Things or Bed, Bath, and Beyond.  They
> > have a pretty decent special, which includes free
> > shipping, and a free home dock (normally $60);
> fairly
> > cheap for a Roomba.  Normally, I am a very frugal
> > person, but I have bought three vacuum-cleaners in
> the
> > past few years at about $50 each at Walmart, and
> all
> > have died.  Plus, I don't actually have to do the
> > vacuuming myself, so that itself was worth the
> extra
> > money.  With the tile, as opposed to the carpet we
> had
> > that hid a lot of dirt, every speck of dirt shows
> up,
> > and I'm having to sweep every day as it is.  So
> all in
> > all, I'm happy as of day one.  We'll see after a
> month
> > or so if Roombie was worth it.
> >
> > :)
> > Wendy
> >
> > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
> committed citizens can
> > change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that
> ever has!"
> >
> > ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~
> >
> >
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> > Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> protection around
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> 


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more recalls

[TenHouseCats]

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To Marylyn: Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of you consideringpurchasing one

[wendy]

Hey Marylyn,

I have this sponge thing I bought that's specifically
sold to get pet hair off of upholstry.  It works
fabulous.  I think you can get it at Petsmart or
Petco.  It wasn't very expensive, but I can't remember
the name.  Let me know if you find it.  

:)
Wendy

--- Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I saw something about rubber gloves (like for
> washing dishes) getting up fur on upholstery.  Has
> anyone had any experience with this?
> 
> 
> 
>  If
> you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures
> 
> from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will
> have men who 
> 
> will deal likewise with their fellow man.
> 
>  St. Francis
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: elizabeth trent 
>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>   Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 6:34 PM
>   Subject: Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for
> those of you consideringpurchasing one
> 
> 
>   I'm curious -- how much does it hold?  I love my
> purple dyson for animal hair but so help me - we're
> such a shedding bunch I have to empty it frequently.
>  how does it perform?
> 
>   elizabeth
> 
>
>   On 4/15/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Hey guys,
> 
> Just wanted to let you guys know that Roombie
> (our new
> Roomba Sage for pet owners) went on it's maiden
> voyage 
> this morning.  The kitties were somewhat alarmed
> at
> first, but by the time it cleaned for 45 minutes
> and
> docked itself, they weren't too concerned with
> it.
> Smookie ran over to it when it stopped and has
> been 
> trying to get the brushes out from underneath
> it.
> It's too cute.
> 
> So far, Roombie did a bang-up job of vacuuming
> my tile
> floors-the living room, kitchen, and eating area
> along
> with the front entry way and hallway leading
> from 
> that.  That's as far as it could go since all
> the
> doors were shut along the hallway.  I was very
> surprised with how well it patterned itself
> while
> cleaning.  It got in and out of tight spaces. 
> It even
> tried to eat Smookie's feather toy, but I
> rescued it.
> 
> 
> We paid $219 for it at the irobot website, which
> is
> the company that makes Roomba.  A better deal
> than at
> Linens and Things or Bed, Bath, and Beyond. 
> They 
> have a pretty decent special, which includes
> free
> shipping, and a free home dock (normally $60);
> fairly
> cheap for a Roomba.  Normally, I am a very
> frugal
> person, but I have bought three vacuum-cleaners
> in the 
> past few years at about $50 each at Walmart, and
> all
> have died.  Plus, I don't actually have to do
> the
> vacuuming myself, so that itself was worth the
> extra
> money.  With the tile, as opposed to the carpet
> we had 
> that hid a lot of dirt, every speck of dirt
> shows up,
> and I'm having to sweep every day as it is.  So
> all in
> all, I'm happy as of day one.  We'll see after a
> month
> or so if Roombie was worth it.
> 
> :)
> Wendy
> 
> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
> committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it
> is the only thing that ever has!"
> 
> ~~~ Margaret
> Meade ~~~ 
> 
> 
>
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Re: Fires in the home/Update on Jax cats and dogs

[wendy]

I have a pretty intense fear of my house catching
fire, mainly because my pets are defenseless against
it.  It's good to know there are things I can do in
the future to help cut down on the chances of fire. 
Thanks for the tips guys!

:)
Wendy

--- Sally Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I had a close call with our dryer years ago. It
> caught fire at the outlet.
> Loose connection. We were at home so not damage to
> the house. Only I went
> w/o a dryer for year bc I could not afford to have
> the outlet replaced. I
> have since moved into a house but I will not leave
> the house with the dryer
> running. I never thought of the dishwasher. I am
> usually home when I run it
> . I Will think twice before leaving it running.
> 
> I am glad more kitties made it out as well.
> 
> Sally and Junior
> 
> 
> On 4/15/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > An addition to the warning to never leave a dryer
> > running while away: never leave your dishwasher
> > running while you're gone either!  It can also
> catch
> > fire.  My apartment complex ten years ago
> experienced
> > this exact thing, and I didn't believe it until I
> > actually spoke with a fireman who verified it.
> >
> > So happy they found more kitties alive!!!  That
> > fireman probably saved their
> >
> >
>
lives!
> >
> > I am going to send him snail mail tomorrow.
> >
> > :)
> > Wendy
> >
> > --- dede hicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I am heading for bed, but I just called a friend
> who
> > > is a HS volunteer.  He was working with them to
> find
> > > homes for 4 feleuk+ cats.  He said Scooter was
> an
> > > orange tabby?  Right now he has no info, but the
> > > cats
> > > were housed in a room near the cattery.
> > >
> > > This morning they found a cat sitting on top of
> the
> > > rubble.  Later today they discovered a black
> kitten
> > > peeping through the rubble. Later a large gray
> one
> > > came running out of the woods and sat where his
> cage
> > > had been.  He was VERY hungry!  These 3 are
> fine.
> > > That brings the total to at least 11 who have
> > > survived. 4 of the survivors are in critical
> care,
> > > and
> > > the local vets have all chipped in with
> supplies.
> > > The
> > > other cats that did survive have all been
> adopted by
> > > volunteers saying they will never be in a cage
> again
> > >
> > > The young fireman who was hurt did not leave
> when
> > > the
> > > command was given.  They ran through the cat
> area
> > > opening cages, then smashing windows and
> breaking
> > > open
> > > doors trying to shoo them out.  He went back in
> the
> > > last time to grab 2 puppies, and the roof caved
> in
> > > on
> > > him.  I will tell you how to contact him
> tomorrow.
> > >
> > > Fire started in the dryer.  Word is that either
> lint
> > > caught fire, or the timer failed and it
> overheated.
> > >
> > > Never leave a dryer on when you're away!
> > >
> > > Will keep you posted.
> > >
> > > Dede
> > >
> > > "When you are in the service of your fellow
> beings,
> > > you are only in the service of your God"
> > >Mosiah 2:17
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

> > > Don't get soaked.  Take a quick peak at the
> forecast
> > > with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut.
> > >
> http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
> committed citizens can
> > change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that
> ever has!"
> >
> > ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~
> >
> >
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RE: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

[cindy reasoner]

Tomi is so beautiful!  The one of him with Kisa is
just so adorable.  I will be praying for both of you.

Cindy Reasoner

--- Diane Rosenfeldt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Beautiful!  My best vibes to Tomi.
>  
> Diane R.
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of C & J
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:25 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today
> 
> 
> I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:
>  
>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg
>  
>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg
>  
>  
> And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other
> Felv baby) together:
>  
>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg
>  
>  
> Cassandra
> 


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RE: Fires in the home/Update on Jax cats and dogs--off topic now

[Melissa Lind]

I can't afford a fire suppression system, but I plan to have everything
hooked on power strips. Did you know that if you only use a microwave less
than seven minutes each day, its clock requires more power than the
microwave itself?! Based upon a family of four, if you'd plug most
appliances into power strips you could save $100 and up per year. Here's a
link to how much you can save by either unplugging your appliances or
keeping them on power strips and just flicking them on when needed.

 

This was in the January issue of Vegetarian Times (not just for
vegetarians!), and here's the link to the article:
http://www.vegetariantimes.com/document/552

 

It's short and interesting, and shows you some simple ways to save water,
energy, and money!!

 

Sorry this is completely off topic!

 

Melissa

 

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taylor Scobie
Humphrey
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 8:32 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Fires in the home/Update on Jax cats and dogs

 

I'm also building a fire suppression system--a retrofit in a ranch  

style--thank goodness it'll be relatively easy.  All the stuff that  

should be unplugged will also save you gobs of $$$ if you plug those  

items into strips and then just throw the switches at night or  

whenever.  Spend the money you've saved on--who else!?-- THE KITTIES!

Taylor Scobie Humphrey

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

On Apr 15, 2007, at 4:16 PM, Marylyn wrote:

 

> OK..to gross out more people.  Electricity continues to run to  

> appliances even if they are turned off.  A friend's apartment  

> building burned because a curling iron was plugged in-not on but  

> plugged  in and left.  Same with almost everything.  No you can't  

> unplug every appliance in the house but the cheaper ones seem to be  

> the most dangerous.  Also washers can over flow causing problems.  

> Guess the lesson is to leave as little running as possible.  I just  

> had a tv smoke up when I tried to turn it on.  Also, keep a fire  

> extinguisher handy.

> 

> I'm so concerned about fire that in the house I am building there  

> is a fire sprinkler system (no, it is not that expensive  

> comparatively--a lot less than a granite counter top).

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> If you have men who  

> will exclude any of God's creatures

> from the shelter of  

> compassion and pity, you will have men who

> will deal likewise  

> with their fellow man.

>   

> St. Francis

> - Original Message - From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> To: 

> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 2:31 PM

> Subject: Re: Fires in the home/Update on Jax cats and dogs

> 

> 

>> Hey guys,

>> 

>> An addition to the warning to never leave a dryer

>> running while away: never leave your dishwasher

>> running while you're gone either!  It can also catch

>> fire.  My apartment complex ten years ago experienced

>> this exact thing, and I didn't believe it until I

>> actually spoke with a fireman who verified it.

>> 

>> So happy they found more kitties alive!!!  That

>> fireman probably saved their

>> lives 

>> ! 

>> 

>> 

>> I am going to send him snail mail tomorrow.

>> 

>> :)

>> Wendy

>> 

>> --- dede hicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> 

>>> 

>>> I am heading for bed, but I just called a friend who

>>> is a HS volunteer.  He was working with them to find

>>> homes for 4 feleuk+ cats.  He said Scooter was an

>>> orange tabby?  Right now he has no info, but the

>>> cats

>>> were housed in a room near the cattery.

>>> 

>>> This morning they found a cat sitting on top of the

>>> rubble.  Later today they discovered a black kitten

>>> peeping through the rubble. Later a large gray one

>>> came running out of the woods and sat where his cage

>>> had been.  He was VERY hungry!  These 3 are fine.

>>> That brings the total to at least 11 who have

>>> survived. 4 of the survivors are in critical care,

>>> and

>>> the local vets have all chipped in with supplies.

>>> The

>>> other cats that did survive have all been adopted by

>>> volunteers saying they will never be in a cage again

>>> 

>>> The young fireman who was hurt did not leave when

>>> the

>>> command was given.  They ran through the cat area

>>> opening cages, then smashing windows and breaking

>>> open

>>> doors trying to shoo them out.  He went back in the

>>> last time to grab 2 puppies, and the roof caved in

>>> on

>>> him.  I will tell you how to contact him tomorrow.

>>> 

>>> Fire started in the dryer.  Word is that either lint

>>> caught fire, or the timer failed and 

RE: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of youconsideringpurchasing one

[Melissa Lind]

Marylyn, I have this rubber spongy thing that my friend gave me. They're
cheap, and I love it! It's grayish black and kind of shaped like a
rectangle, but with a curved inner part for you to grip. I think she got it
from Drs. Foster and Smith, but I'm not really sure. But, this thing takes
the fur and rolls it up when you drag is across the upholstery. This is the
only way I can vacuum my furniture-I have to do this first which gets up the
majority of the hair, but the stuff that's left is actually vacuum-able. I
also bought some vacuum spray stuff that's supposed to allow the hair to not
stick to furniture, but it was a mess and didn't really work, and it would
get in places I didn't want. By far, I stand my rubber thing!

 

I'll look later for a link to one, I couldn't find one on the Drs. Website,
but I know it's out there somewhere. But, I did read while looking that many
people use a rubber glove. I've never tried it. If you do, let us know!

 

Melissa

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 6:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of
youconsideringpurchasing one

 

I saw something about rubber gloves (like for washing dishes) getting up fur
on upholstery.  Has anyone had any experience with this?

 

 

 

 If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
  St.
Francis

- Original Message - 

From: elizabeth trent   

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 6:34 PM

Subject: Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of you
consideringpurchasing one

 

I'm curious -- how much does it hold?  I love my purple dyson for animal
hair but so help me - we're such a shedding bunch I have to empty it
frequently.  how does it perform?

 

elizabeth

 

On 4/15/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Hey guys,

Just wanted to let you guys know that Roombie (our new
Roomba Sage for pet owners) went on it's maiden voyage 
this morning.  The kitties were somewhat alarmed at
first, but by the time it cleaned for 45 minutes and
docked itself, they weren't too concerned with it.
Smookie ran over to it when it stopped and has been 
trying to get the brushes out from underneath it.
It's too cute.

So far, Roombie did a bang-up job of vacuuming my tile
floors-the living room, kitchen, and eating area along
with the front entry way and hallway leading from 
that.  That's as far as it could go since all the
doors were shut along the hallway.  I was very
surprised with how well it patterned itself while
cleaning.  It got in and out of tight spaces.  It even
tried to eat Smookie's feather toy, but I rescued it.


We paid $219 for it at the irobot website, which is
the company that makes Roomba.  A better deal than at
Linens and Things or Bed, Bath, and Beyond.  They 
have a pretty decent special, which includes free
shipping, and a free home dock (normally $60); fairly
cheap for a Roomba.  Normally, I am a very frugal
person, but I have bought three vacuum-cleaners in the 
past few years at about $50 each at Walmart, and all
have died.  Plus, I don't actually have to do the
vacuuming myself, so that itself was worth the extra
money.  With the tile, as opposed to the carpet we had 
that hid a lot of dirt, every speck of dirt shows up,
and I'm having to sweep every day as it is.  So all in
all, I'm happy as of day one.  We'll see after a month
or so if Roombie was worth it.

:)
Wendy

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the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has!"
 
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Re: Stitch - Questions!

[Joe Reil]

The other thing with the Merrick's is, at least among
the 6 or 7 flavors they had available at my pet store,
about half of them contained some sort of shellfish
(Crab, Crawfish or Lobster).

My wife is severely allergic to shellfish and we don't
bring any into the house, so that ruled out about half
of what they had available right up front.

Stitch seems to like the Pot Pie variety, trying
something else tonight...

--- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mine like the merrick, but prefer certain flavors.
> Favs are Grammy's Pot Pie and
> Southern Delight. They seem to NOT like the
> Turducken as much... but then would I
> like something with the word "turd" in it's name
> either? LOL!
> 
> Phaewryn
> 
> http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
> Special Needs Cat Resources
> 
> 
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Re: Stitch - Questions!

[Marylyn]

I wonder if they thought about that when they added turkey to duck???  






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: elizabeth trent 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 6:59 AM
  Subject: Re: Stitch - Questions!


  Only if it was "Toxipoo" brand ;-)

  elizabeth

   
  On 4/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Mine like the merrick, but prefer certain flavors. Favs are Grammy's Pot 
Pie and
Southern Delight. They seem to NOT like the Turducken as much... but then 
would I 
like something with the word "turd" in it's name either? LOL!

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Special Needs Cat Resources 

Re: Stitch - Questions!

[elizabeth trent]

Only if it was "Toxipoo" brand ;-)

elizabeth


On 4/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Mine like the merrick, but prefer certain flavors. Favs are Grammy's Pot
Pie and
Southern Delight. They seem to NOT like the Turducken as much... but then
would I
like something with the word "turd" in it's name either? LOL!

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Special Needs Cat Resources

Re: OT: To shelter owners/volunteers-your opinion needed on sitevisit for Maltese shelter

[Marylyn]

That is exactly what the City of Louisville (KY) did.  They just passed a law 
limiting the number of outside dogs to 3 unless you have over a 1/2 acre yard 
(rare).  I really don't know what people are going to do because there was no 
clause to grandfather larger dog families in.  





 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gina WN 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:08 AM
  Subject: Re: OT: To shelter owners/volunteers-your opinion needed on 
sitevisit for Maltese shelter


  We have a four cat limit in our county. :(

  Gina


  Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, I think pet limit laws are archaic and silly and should be abolished.

But that's beside the point.

What if the city code were 6 dogs and 5 cats and tomorrow they changed
it to 3 dogs and 2 cats? I mean, you can't predict the future. What
if they move somewhere where the code is only 4 dogs?

How many of us have had animals

1. in excess of city codes
2. in excess of what was allowed by our landlord
3. in secret from our landlord
4...well, I think you get the point.

Fortunately we don't have animal limit laws here, though the shelter
limits me to 10 (personal and foster) animals at a time.

They only count litters as 1, though. So all my litters, including
the ones that are almost 2 years old, I count as 1. That's how I get
around it. Heh.

On 4/12/07, wendy wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I went on my first site visit tonight with my friend
> who lives here in San Antonio. The only real concern
> she and I both had were that the family already has 5
> dogs and 5 cats. They live in a regular subdivision
> home in San Antonio (regular size plot-nothing too
> large, although the backyard is nicely sized). The
> municipal code says that no more than 5 dogs and 3
> cats be in one home at a time. So our question,
> especially to shelter owners/volunteers, is this: if
> you know adopting a dog out, even if it's to a good
> family, will put that family in violation of city
> codes, would you do it? My friend is not the one
> making the decision; she's just reporting the
> information to the shelter. We were just curious as
> to what your thoughts are on this.
>
> :)
> Wendy
>
> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can 
change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has!"
> ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Fires in the home/Update on Jax cats and dogs

[Marylyn]

Sounds like what I did.  I got one with glycol (sic) so I could do the 
garage too.  Good luck.  Mine makes me feel considerably saferespecially 
when Dixie is here alone.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: "Taylor Scobie Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: Fires in the home/Update on Jax cats and dogs


I guess I should have qualified that statement by saying I'm having 
somebody build a fire suppression system!  I did research online 
first--there are several different companies--but then what I will do  is 
speak with the local firefighters here and see what they have to  say as to 
what company to use.  Who knows?  I might get a date with a  fireman out of 
it!


Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Apr 15, 2007, at 11:03 PM, Marylyn wrote:

How are you putting it in?  I had mine done by a company but would  like 
to do a barn type building if I can ever get the house finished.







If you have men who  will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise  with 
their fellow man.
  St. 
Francis
- Original Message - From: "Taylor Scobie Humphrey" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: Fires in the home/Update on Jax cats and dogs


I'm also building a fire suppression system--a retrofit in a ranch 
style--thank goodness it'll be relatively easy.  All the stuff  that 
should be unplugged will also save you gobs of $$$ if you  plug those 
items into strips and then just throw the switches at  night or 
whenever. Spend the money you've saved on--who else!?--  THE KITTIES!

Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Apr 15, 2007, at 4:16 PM, Marylyn wrote:

OK..to gross out more people.  Electricity continues to run to 
appliances even if they are turned off.  A friend's apartment 
building burned because a curling iron was plugged in-not on but 
plugged  in and left.  Same with almost everything.  No you  can't 
unplug every appliance in the house but the cheaper ones  seem to be 
the most dangerous.  Also washers can over flow  causing problems. 
Guess the lesson is to leave as little running  as possible.  I just 
had a tv smoke up when I tried to turn it  on.  Also, keep a fire 
extinguisher handy.


I'm so concerned about fire that in the house I am building  there  is 
a fire sprinkler system (no, it is not that expensive 
comparatively--a lot less than a granite counter top).







If you have men  who 
will exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter  of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal  likewise 
with their fellow man.
   St. 
Francis

- Original Message - From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: Fires in the home/Update on Jax cats and dogs



Hey guys,

An addition to the warning to never leave a dryer
running while away: never leave your dishwasher
running while you're gone either!  It can also catch
fire.  My apartment complex ten years ago experienced
this exact thing, and I didn't believe it until I
actually spoke with a fireman who verified it.

So happy they found more kitties alive!!!  That
fireman probably saved their
lives!! !! 
 ! 



I am going to send him snail mail tomorrow.

:)
Wendy

--- dede hicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I am heading for bed, but I just called a friend who
is a HS volunteer.  He was working with them to find
homes for 4 feleuk+ cats.  He said Scooter was an
orange tabby?  Right now he has no info, but the
cats
were housed in a room near the cattery.

This morning they found a cat sitting on top of the
rubble.  Later today they discovered a black kitten
peeping through the rubble. Later a large gray one
came running out of the woods and sat where his cage
had been.  He was VERY hungry!  These 3 are fine.
That brings the total to at least 11 who have
survived. 4 of the survivors are in critical care,
and
the local vets have all chipped in with supplies.
The

Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(

[Gina WN]

Tomi is in my prayers.  I hope by some miracle he'll pull through.
   
  Gina

C & J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I took Tomi to the vet today to have his PCV rechecked.  He's been 
lethargic again lately.  The PCV has gone down to 11 from 17 in the last week 
and a half.
   
  I just don't understand it.  After his transfusion, his blood count went up 
on its own from 13, to 17, then 19.  Now in the last few weeks, its gone down 
to 17, and now 11.
   
  I've been giving him prednisone again for the last week and a half, and now 
all the vet could suggest was to up his prednisone from 1 to 2 tablets a day.
   
  I guess his hemobartonella wasn't the only problem with his blood.  The vet 
says that its likely his bone marrow is shutting down, and she didn't think 
another transfusion would be worth it.
   
  I don't know what the heck else to do.  Maybe I should stop his interferon 
while giving him the prednisone.
   
  This is so hard, just when I had a glimmer of hope that he might actually 
pull through this, now my hope is pretty much gone :(  It's such a feeling of 
desperation to see him slowly getting worse, and not being able to do anything 
about it.
   
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Re: sweet kitty in sw Michigan/Who has the cat now?

[Gina WN]

My Taylor is black with a little splash of white on her chest and tummy.  She 
has such beautiful shiny fur!  Too bad people are either superstitious or over 
look them.
   
  Gina
  

TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  i can post her to the michigan rescue lists if someone can get me more 
information on where she is, who has her, etc.

and in many parts of the country, black cats are the LAST adopted

hard for me to understand, as my first two cats were black, but it is true 

(speaking of which, it's friday the thirteenth, the universal moveable 
black-cat holiday--celebrate it with someone furry and black that you love!)

  On 4/13/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Where is she?  Who has 
her now?

cindy reasoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Oh, she sounds so sweet and it is 
so sad that she was
trying to find security in anybody's car! I hope you
find her a home or who belongs to her. I love black 
cats. My Thomaseena was black and lived to be about
18 years old. I grew up with her. When she died I
lost my best friend. My diabetic cat (Katie) is black
and she holds a very special place in my heart. Is
someone taking care of her until then? Did you say
she was declawed? It isn't cheap to have a kitty
declawed. You would think somebody cared about her. 
I will be praying that you find this poor sweet girl's 
home or a new home. 

Cindy Reasoner

--- Melissa Lind wrote:

> Debbie, I bet Nina meant that some people are
> superstitious or believe old
> wives tales (bad luck if a black cat crosses your
> path, etc.). Funny that
> this post occurred on Friday the 13th! Double
> superstitions! I just saw a
> beautiful, silky, short hair all black cat roaming 
> our back yard. I called
> to it from our deck, but it had better things to do!
> I personally am not
> superstitious about black cats, but I do throw
> spilled salt over my left
> shoulder! :) Melissa 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Debbie
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 2:41 PM 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: sweet kitty in sw Michigan needs help
> 
> out of curiosity - why would a cat have a strike
> against her for being
> black? I'm curious.
> 
> -Original Message-
> >From: Nina 
> >Sent: Apr 13, 2007 4:24 PM
> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: sweet kitty in sw Michigan needs help
> >
> >Hi Nan,
> >I took the liberty of changing the subject line of
> your post to better 
> >indicate what it's about. What a little love this
> girl sounds like! 
> >Poor angel on her own with no front claws trying to 
> get into the safety 
> >a human's car. It makes me want to go and scoop
> her up myself, (I won't 
> >even mention that to Bruce or my overcrowded
> household).
> >
> >Who has the cat right now? Has anyone posted
> flyers at the campground 
> >in case she accidently became lost from her people?
> Someone might be 
> >heartbroken and looking for her as I type this. 
> Are you checking local 
> >papers for lost ads? Has someone posted a found ad
> in the paper near 
> >where the campgrounds are? They should also file a
> found report with 
> >the local animal shelter and ask if anyone has 
> reported her missing to 
> >the shelter.
> >
> >She does have a strike against her because she's
> black, (I personally 
> >love black cats), but she has quite a rescue story 
> and that might help 
> >to find her a home. The very best to you and this
> sweet baby, please 
> >let us know what happens to her. Hey... Wasn't
> there just someone very 
> >nice on this list that was thinking about adopting 
> a neg cat??? Who was 
> >that? Wasn't it Marissa?? Marissa, did you end up
> adopting more cats 
> >yet?? 
> >Nina
> >
> >Nan Gelman wrote:
> >> hi all, 
> >>
> >> It has been a while since I have posted to this
> site, but I need some
> help is there anyone in southwest Michigan who would
> like to adopt a very
> sweet all black female sprayed kitty cat. This kitty 
> was found in a camp
> grounds trying to get in to anyone's car that she
> could. She is about a year
> old sprayed and front declawed. She tested negative
> for both FELV and FIV
> She is very sweet and gentle. Please let me know 
> asap. 
> >>
> >> Thanks so much 
> >>
> >> Nan 
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: OT: To shelter owners/volunteers-your opinion needed on site visit for Maltese shelter

[Gina WN]

We have a four cat limit in our county. :(
   
  Gina
  

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Well, I think pet limit laws are archaic and silly and should be abolished.

But that's beside the point.

What if the city code were 6 dogs and 5 cats and tomorrow they changed
it to 3 dogs and 2 cats? I mean, you can't predict the future. What
if they move somewhere where the code is only 4 dogs?

How many of us have had animals

1. in excess of city codes
2. in excess of what was allowed by our landlord
3. in secret from our landlord
4...well, I think you get the point.

Fortunately we don't have animal limit laws here, though the shelter
limits me to 10 (personal and foster) animals at a time.

They only count litters as 1, though. So all my litters, including
the ones that are almost 2 years old, I count as 1. That's how I get
around it. Heh.

On 4/12/07, wendy wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I went on my first site visit tonight with my friend
> who lives here in San Antonio. The only real concern
> she and I both had were that the family already has 5
> dogs and 5 cats. They live in a regular subdivision
> home in San Antonio (regular size plot-nothing too
> large, although the backyard is nicely sized). The
> municipal code says that no more than 5 dogs and 3
> cats be in one home at a time. So our question,
> especially to shelter owners/volunteers, is this: if
> you know adopting a dog out, even if it's to a good
> family, will put that family in violation of city
> codes, would you do it? My friend is not the one
> making the decision; she's just reporting the
> information to the shelter. We were just curious as
> to what your thoughts are on this.
>
> :)
> Wendy
>
> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
> the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has!"
> ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of you considering purchasing one

[Gina WN]

How neat!  I'd love to have one of those.  Sounds like you got a really good 
deal.
   
  Gina

wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hey guys, 

Just wanted to let you guys know that Roombie (our new
Roomba Sage for pet owners) went on it's maiden voyage
this morning. The kitties were somewhat alarmed at
first, but by the time it cleaned for 45 minutes and
docked itself, they weren't too concerned with it. 
Smookie ran over to it when it stopped and has been
trying to get the brushes out from underneath it. 
It's too cute. 

So far, Roombie did a bang-up job of vacuuming my tile
floors-the living room, kitchen, and eating area along
with the front entry way and hallway leading from
that. That's as far as it could go since all the
doors were shut along the hallway. I was very
surprised with how well it patterned itself while
cleaning. It got in and out of tight spaces. It even
tried to eat Smookie's feather toy, but I rescued it. 


We paid $219 for it at the irobot website, which is
the company that makes Roomba. A better deal than at
Linens and Things or Bed, Bath, and Beyond. They 
have a pretty decent special, which includes free
shipping, and a free home dock (normally $60); fairly
cheap for a Roomba. Normally, I am a very frugal
person, but I have bought three vacuum-cleaners in the
past few years at about $50 each at Walmart, and all
have died. Plus, I don't actually have to do the
vacuuming myself, so that itself was worth the extra
money. With the tile, as opposed to the carpet we had
that hid a lot of dirt, every speck of dirt shows up,
and I'm having to sweep every day as it is. So all in
all, I'm happy as of day one. We'll see after a month
or so if Roombie was worth it.

:)
Wendy

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Re: OT: Pregnant Feral Kitty....Questions

[Gina WN]

I can see both sides of the issue.  However, being the softy that I am, I would 
have trouble aborting the kits.  My Tigger and Taylor are the offspring of a 
feral mom.  I guess that's why I feel the way I do.  Good luck with the little 
girl Terrie and let us know how it goes.
   
  Gina
  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Terrie,
   
  I disagree with aborting kittens unless you absolutely have no option. When I 
adopt kittens too young to be altered, the spay/neuter is included in the 
adoption fee and must be done at my vet. Bingo, if they are late getting them 
fixed I know it since I havent gotten a bill from my vet. I call and if they 
don't get them altered I take the cat back (its only happened once) then mom 
and all babes are fixed and the cycle for that family stops. 
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Re: Cassandra and Brunello Please add to the ClS :(

[Gina WN]

Bless you Sherry and all that you do for these babies.  They are in my prayers. 
 I am sorry you lost Cassandra and Brunello.

Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Ok now that I have stopped crying 
for the moment,let me ask that these sweet angels be added to the list.
  Cassandra beautiful sleek black girl left us yesterday,she is now with her 
beautiful sister Carissa.
  Brunello had a very rough life before Jen took this wonderful rough looking 
but very handsome boy with the loudest motor into Sids.I fell in love with him 
the second that I saw him.This was a shocker,I was just there Thursday and he 
was fine.Yesterday morning when one of the volunteers came in,she found him 
gasping for breath.It was found that he had a large mass on his trachea.
  This volunteering is the hardest yet most rewarding thing that I have done in 
my life.I am soo glad that I have all of you to talk to.
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RE: Ages please

[Gina WN]

My Pippin tested positive at 6 weeks of age on the ELISA test.  Five months 
later we had her retested using the IFA test; she tested negative.  She is the 
reason I joined this group. :)  My other three kitties, Tigger (14 years), 
Taylor (14 years) and Bob (8 years) are negative for FeLV (they are also 
vaccinated for FeLV.) 
   
  Gina
   
  Here is a link to their photos:
   
  http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a106/tiggerwiggins/Our%20Cats/
  

Melissa Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Oh Nan, She sounds precious! I had an all black kitty once when I was a
kid--I named her Gorgeous! I only wish I had room and lived closer to
Michigan (I'm in northeast Nebraska), but I'm sure someone on here should be
able to help you! Please keep us posted! Have you given her a name?
Melissa

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nan Gelman
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 1:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Ages please- OT- Ferals

hi all, 

It has been a while since I have posted to this site, but I need some help
is there anyone in southwest Michigan who would like to adopt a very sweet
all black female sprayed kitty cat. This kitty was found in a camp grounds
trying to get in to anyone's car that she could. She is about a year old
sprayed and front declawed. She tested negative for both FELV and FIV She is
very sweet and gentle. Please let me know asap. 

Thanks so much 

Nan 


 Original message 
>Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:20:11 EDT
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Subject: Re: Ages please- OT- Ferals 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>
> I know all too well "what" those poor babies are
> feeling - being in "captivity".And I didn't mean to
> put them down using the term "nasty". Sorry, my
> mistake. It's not their fault at all But,
> bless them, being trapped & rescued & being at the
> shelter is a lot better than what they were facing -
> CERTAIN DEATH!!!
> We got so many calls from people "begging" for help
> because they were facing "other" (kill) shelters
> coming out to trap them due to complaints from
> neighbors.
> And, our shelter/sanctuary is not a bad place 
> All cats are placed in large rooms/areas after
> initial isolation while doing all tests/bloodwork. 
> And, each area has an outside deck for them. Plus,
> lots of beds, little huts (to act as "hiding"
> places), etc. And, they always have plenty to
> eat.dry & wet. So, they will never face hunger
> again. Or any illness - we have vets on property
> 3X a week (Now, medicating them is "tricky", but
> it does get done.)
> And, I always had (still do, I think[?]) a way in
> working w/ ferals. Fostered MANY & was able to
> bring them around. Can't even count how many
> "former" ferals were adopted.
> And, now I have my Charity..."a former feral". 
> Ended up in ER many times from her!!! And, I was
> just trying to help.. Even Bart (RIP), meanest
> feral I ever encountered, trusted me, sadly, too
> late, when Charity led me to him. I really
> believe the whole reason Charity is a love-muffin
> (with me only), is because she knew I had helped
> Bart, her constant companion.
> People are the problem, NOT the poor cats. And,
> education IS the key, but, sadly, too many people
> won't listen. After all, "They're only animals!". 
> Boy, does that p*ss me off! Heard that WAY too many
> times!
> Just wanted to clarify & expand on my previous
> post
> Hugs,
> Patti & her gang
>
> 
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Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

[Gina WN]

Tomi boy is gorgeous!

C & J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I took these pictures today of my 
little Tomi boy:
   
  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg
   
  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg
   
   
  And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together:
   
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