Re: Update on mva kitties - Sammi is alive and has been spotted
Hi Taylor, He was able to go last night, but no sighting as far as I know. It does seem like a good omen that Teddy chose the number 3! Nina Taylor Scobie Humphrey wrote: 33 A little message there from Baby Pooma Teddy! He must be saying that those three kitties belong together. When will the kitties' daddy be able to come back to call to Sammi?
Re: pet-food recall info
Thanks MC. It would be much easier if a list was compiled with brands and foods that have been verified by testing to be safe. I have 3 cases of Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on the list), that I'm now afraid to feed. I'd eat them myself over crackers, but I'm not sure how much I'd like beef and salmon combined together, (maybe a little mayonnaise). Pretty soon some adventurer will start selling home-testing kits we can use before we set the food bowls down. Nina MaryChristine wrote: www.howl911.com http://www.howl911.com hasn't been updated in a few days; not sure why. www.itchmo.com http://www.itchmo.com seems to have the most up-to-date info; and you can sign up for email alerts. MC
Re: pet-food recall info
I tried some Evo last night (entirely accidentally) but the cats love it, except Sugar, who I don't think realizes it is food. On 5/3/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks MC. It would be much easier if a list was compiled with brands and foods that have been verified by testing to be safe. I have 3 cases of Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on the list), that I'm now afraid to feed. I'd eat them myself over crackers, but I'm not sure how much I'd like beef and salmon combined together, (maybe a little mayonnaise). Pretty soon some adventurer will start selling home-testing kits we can use before we set the food bowls down. Nina MaryChristine wrote: www.howl911.com hasn't been updated in a few days; not sure why. www.itchmo.com seems to have the most up-to-date info; and you can sign up for email alerts. MC -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Gandalf! http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
Re: pet-food recall info
You forgot the crackers and mayonnaise! Kelley Saveika wrote: I tried some Evo last night (entirely accidentally) but the cats love it, except Sugar, who I don't think realizes it is food. On 5/3/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks MC. It would be much easier if a list was compiled with brands and foods that have been verified by testing to be safe. I have 3 cases of Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on the list), that I'm now afraid to feed. I'd eat them myself over crackers, but I'm not sure how much I'd like beef and salmon combined together, (maybe a little mayonnaise). Pretty soon some adventurer will start selling home-testing kits we can use before we set the food bowls down. Nina
Re: Hello
Hi Debi and welcome! Bless you for opening your home to felv kitties, (you're a brave woman to take so many in at one time). It's wonderful that you sought us out while everyone is healthy. I'm a little confused about your family line up. Let me see if I've got this straight... You have 6 permanent residents, 3 of whom are felv+ and 5 fosters, 2 of whom are felv+, is that right? Are your other 3 permanent residents vaccinated? How old are your personal neg cats? The very old, (or infirm) and the very young are more susceptible to contracting felv. There are many on the list that have mixed neg and pos kitties together for years without any of the negs becoming pos. Of course you can't take a chance like that with neg foster kitties. Have you considered only fostering felv+ cats for the rescue you work with? There are so few homes that would be willing to take these guys in and if you stopped fostering negs, you'd have less concerns for them and more room for pos. Just a suggestion from an advocate of our pos friends :-) . I'm sure you'll get lots of great advice and support from the list. Ask as many questions as you like, as you may already have noticed, we go ot quite a bit around here. It's a very warm and supportive community we share. I love these people. The general advice is to keep their environment as stress free as possible, feed the best food you can afford, supplement with immune boosters/modulators, and never take a wait-and-see approach to any sign of illness. These guys bounce back from illnesses just like any other cat, the difference is an illness that a neg cat might fight off by themselves has to be caught and aggressively treated sooner because of their compromised immune systems. I'm so glad you found us, Nina Debi Holmes wrote: Hello, I just wanted to introduce myself and tell you a little about my situation. My name is Debi and I live in Nazareth, Pennsylvania. I am a foster mom for a cat rescue. I have 6 of my own cats and I currently have 5 foster cats. I also have 3 of my own FELV positive kitties and 2 other FELV positive kitties that I am fostering. My 3 girls Sunshine, Cutie Pie, and Chloe are all sisters that are about 9 months old, they live in my computer room, which is great for them because my daughter is in there alot, so they get my attention and hers. The 2 fosters that I have live in the room, I had initially built for my girls downstairs, and they are BooBoo who is about one and half years old, and then there is Thumbelina who is about 8 months old. The girls I have had since they were just 8 weeks old, BooBoo was living outside a nursing home and they called us to come and get him. Thumbelina was rescued from underneath a shed. All are super sweet except for Thumbelina she wants nothing to do with BooBoo or with me, she just hangs out up in the rafters of the room. Anyway these kitties will be my first experience with FELV positive kitties so I wanted to be in a group with other owners of FELV positive kitties. Thank you, Debi H. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM-
Re: Hello
Nina, You have it right! And yes my 3 are vaccinated. My personal cats are 13, 6 and 4. It all started with the 3 girls kittens I took in. I took them to foster until we could find a home or a sanctuary, but months went by and I could not bare to see them seperated and found that most people don't even want to take a look at them and they are just beautiful girls. They are just like other kittens/cats. I feed them the best quality food that I can afford and I always do them first for feeding and litterboxes as my fosters come in looking good and then whamo they have something. I have heard that if they make it through the first year then their chances of survival go up greatly. I do not know if this is true or not. I have thought about just fostering positive kitties but I am a little afraid of getting attached and losing them way to soon, because like you said nobody really wants them. Anyway I am hoping to hear alot of good things and to get information when I am in need. Thank you, Debi H Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Debi and welcome! Bless you for opening your home to felv kitties, (you're a brave woman to take so many in at one time). It's wonderful that you sought us out while everyone is healthy. I'm a little confused about your family line up. Let me see if I've got this straight... You have 6 permanent residents, 3 of whom are felv+ and 5 fosters, 2 of whom are felv+, is that right? Are your other 3 permanent residents vaccinated? How old are your personal neg cats? The very old, (or infirm) and the very young are more susceptible to contracting felv. There are many on the list that have mixed neg and pos kitties together for years without any of the negs becoming pos. Of course you can't take a chance like that with neg foster kitties. Have you considered only fostering felv+ cats for the rescue you work with? There are so few homes that would be willing to take these guys in and if you stopped fostering negs, you'd have less concerns for them and more room for pos. Just a suggestion from an advocate of our pos friends :-) . I'm sure you'll get lots of great advice and support from the list. Ask as many questions as you like, as you may already have noticed, we go ot quite a bit around here. It's a very warm and supportive community we share. I love these people. The general advice is to keep their environment as stress free as possible, feed the best food you can afford, supplement with immune boosters/modulators, and never take a wait-and-see approach to any sign of illness. These guys bounce back from illnesses just like any other cat, the difference is an illness that a neg cat might fight off by themselves has to be caught and aggressively treated sooner because of their compromised immune systems. I'm so glad you found us, Nina Debi Holmes wrote: Hello, I just wanted to introduce myself and tell you a little about my situation. My name is Debi and I live in Nazareth, Pennsylvania. I am a foster mom for a cat rescue. I have 6 of my own cats and I currently have 5 foster cats. I also have 3 of my own FELV positive kitties and 2 other FELV positive kitties that I am fostering. My 3 girls Sunshine, Cutie Pie, and Chloe are all sisters that are about 9 months old, they live in my computer room, which is great for them because my daughter is in there alot, so they get my attention and hers. The 2 fosters that I have live in the room, I had initially built for my girls downstairs, and they are BooBoo who is about one and half years old, and then there is Thumbelina who is about 8 months old. The girls I have had since they were just 8 weeks old, BooBoo was living outside a nursing home and they called us to come and get him. Thumbelina was rescued from underneath a shed. All are super sweet except for Thumbelina she wants nothing to do with BooBoo or with me, she just hangs out up in the rafters of the room. Anyway these kitties will be my first experience with FELV positive kitties so I wanted to be in a group with other owners of FELV positive kitties. Thank you, Debi H. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Hello
Hi Debi, Yes, it's true that we do lose a lot of kittens born with felv before their first year, so it's a good sign when they reach that milestone. Another thing to keep in mind is that many kittens test false pos, (it is an indicator that your first 3 girls were actually pos, since they all tested that way). Many previously healthy cats seroconvert (clear the virus) on their own and for that reason should be retested using the IFA test, (a more accurate testing method than the in-house ELISA) in 3 to 6 mos or so. We all hear you about the heartbreak of losing these kitties and how insane it can seem to purposely sign up for so much possible grief. The way I have come to terms with dealing with special needs cats and losing them way to soon, is to appreciate the time we do have together and to know that I am providing them the chance at a life, (no matter how long or short that life may be), full of love, commitment and understanding. The quality of time we spend together, the lessons learned and valued that come from our associations, at least for me, make anything I may suffer worthwhile. Nina Debi Holmes wrote: Nina, You have it right! And yes my 3 are vaccinated. My personal cats are 13, 6 and 4. It all started with the 3 girls kittens I took in. I took them to foster until we could find a home or a sanctuary, but months went by and I could not bare to see them seperated and found that most people don't even want to take a look at them and they are just beautiful girls. They are just like other kittens/cats. I feed them the best quality food that I can afford and I always do them first for feeding and litterboxes as my fosters come in looking good and then whamo they have something. I have heard that if they make it through the first year then their chances of survival go up greatly. I do not know if this is true or not. I have thought about just fostering positive kitties but I am a little afraid of getting attached and losing them way to soon, because like you said nobody really wants them. Anyway I am hoping to hear alot of good things and to get information when I am in need. Thank you, Debi H
Re: pet-food recall info
I finally got 3 of my cats to eat the Evo. Katie's (my diabetic cat)true brother Simon was diagnosed as being diabetic on Sunday so the vet said I needed to get him to eat the Evo because it is low carbs. Katie won't touch it but Simon, Nick and Tabby Cat are starting to eat it now. I can't believe I have 2 diabetic cats and Nick is another true brother so eventually I may have 3. I am so relieved they are eating the EVO especially Simon because it is better for him. Cindy Reasoner --- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forgot the crackers and mayonnaise! Kelley Saveika wrote: I tried some Evo last night (entirely accidentally) but the cats love it, except Sugar, who I don't think realizes it is food. On 5/3/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks MC. It would be much easier if a list was compiled with brands and foods that have been verified by testing to be safe. I have 3 cases of Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on the list), that I'm now afraid to feed. I'd eat them myself over crackers, but I'm not sure how much I'd like beef and salmon combined together, (maybe a little mayonnaise). Pretty soon some adventurer will start selling home-testing kits we can use before we set the food bowls down. Nina __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Homemdae Recipes from Books I got
Hi All, I found a board that has already typed out some of the recipes that are in one of the books I ordered. It is from Dr Strombecks book. There are two recipes for renal cats and two for normal cats with no health problems. I use dark chicken meat and not the breast because my guys like it better and there is more fat in it. I also add taurine because I think most of it gets cooked out of the meat. I also add my usual supplements, nutrived, salmon oil, probotics, and other things Fred my CRF guy needs. I found out today *Foster Farms chicken has NOT* been fed the contaminated food which is the only chicken I buy, I was freaking out when I heard they were finding the chicken feed now contaminated but saying it wasn't in high enough doses to affect humans so they weren't doing anything about it. My God, what about those of us who are for obvious reasons now cooking for our cats? OK here is the link to the page with the recipes until I can get around to posting a few more, this should get you started: http://thepetfoodlist.com/forums/index.php?topic=152.0 -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Homemdae Recipes from Books I got
PS. I don't use potatoes either, I do use rice sometimes, I try to vary the recipes so it isn't always the same, I usually make 4 or 5 days worth of food and freeze it. I take it out the day morning I'm going to use it. I nuke it at 10% power (the lowest setting) for about 2.30 to 3 minutes. I don't know what nuking it does, I'm hoping by doing it on such a low setting it's OK, I'll find out when Fred gets blood work again because his supplements are all in there. So far Fred likes it and is eating pretty good, I'm slowly switching the others over but they are a very hard sell ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Expanded Menu recall announced today
Now they're pulling foods for cross-contamination-nightmare never ends! http://www.menufoods.com/recall/PressReleaseUS05022007.htm Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART) www.findkpets.org Join Us Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals
Re: pet-food recall info
Ask your vet about feeding raw. Primal has cubes that you thaw..no fuss, no mess and, for those of us who have meat only for the cats, no having to deal with it. According to my Junior Partner, Dixie Louise, the stuff is great mixed with some water and lots of chopped broccoli. For her, the price is less than Fancy Feast or EVO because it is so concentrated (the reason for adding some water). If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: Re: pet-food recall info I finally got 3 of my cats to eat the Evo. Katie's (my diabetic cat)true brother Simon was diagnosed as being diabetic on Sunday so the vet said I needed to get him to eat the Evo because it is low carbs. Katie won't touch it but Simon, Nick and Tabby Cat are starting to eat it now. I can't believe I have 2 diabetic cats and Nick is another true brother so eventually I may have 3. I am so relieved they are eating the EVO especially Simon because it is better for him. Cindy Reasoner --- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forgot the crackers and mayonnaise! Kelley Saveika wrote: I tried some Evo last night (entirely accidentally) but the cats love it, except Sugar, who I don't think realizes it is food. On 5/3/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks MC. It would be much easier if a list was compiled with brands and foods that have been verified by testing to be safe. I have 3 cases of Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on the list), that I'm now afraid to feed. I'd eat them myself over crackers, but I'm not sure how much I'd like beef and salmon combined together, (maybe a little mayonnaise). Pretty soon some adventurer will start selling home-testing kits we can use before we set the food bowls down. Nina __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Homemdae Recipes from Books I got
If you are concerned about nuking Fred's food (I am about Dixie's) then try putting the food in a bowl and setting the bowl in another bowl of hot water. It takes about the same amount of time without the worry..especially if you freeze in small amounts. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Homemdae Recipes from Books I got PS. I don't use potatoes either, I do use rice sometimes, I try to vary the recipes so it isn't always the same, I usually make 4 or 5 days worth of food and freeze it. I take it out the day morning I'm going to use it. I nuke it at 10% power (the lowest setting) for about 2.30 to 3 minutes. I don't know what nuking it does, I'm hoping by doing it on such a low setting it's OK, I'll find out when Fred gets blood work again because his supplements are all in there. So far Fred likes it and is eating pretty good, I'm slowly switching the others over but they are a very hard sell ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Homemdae Recipes from Books I got
Thanks Marilyn, I'll give that a try I do that with Joey baby food treat after meds and it works fine, course the baby food isn't frozen. I freeze in the pint canning jars, they give me about a full day and one meal the next day's worth of food for Fred, I take one out each morning or afternoon. 14 thighs or 16 drummies makes about 4 or 5 days worth of food. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Homemdae Recipes from Books I got
I freeze in 1/4 cup muffin pans then pop the muffins into a Ziploc. This allows me to vary her diet by size and content. I am just learning this and am shifting her to Primal raw cat food which she seems to love---mixed with lots of broccoli (don't ask me--it + extra water = a happy Dixie). If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 4:27 PM Subject: Re: Homemdae Recipes from Books I got Thanks Marilyn, I'll give that a try I do that with Joey baby food treat after meds and it works fine, course the baby food isn't frozen. I freeze in the pint canning jars, they give me about a full day and one meal the next day's worth of food for Fred, I take one out each morning or afternoon. 14 thighs or 16 drummies makes about 4 or 5 days worth of food. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Homemdae Recipes from Books I got
Sounds good, I fed raw for a while and they sort of like it for a while, then they seemed to get tired of it. Hope that doesn't happen with the cooked since they'll have no choice. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Homemdae Recipes from Books I got
I've been trying to make the raw food recipes from Dr. Pitcairn's book, but am not sure I like the grain component. My cats aren't sure yet what they think of it either. Has anyone tried the recipe here http://www.catnutrition.org/recipes.html ? This recipe is pretty much all meat/organs/bone with some supplements. I think I would like to try it, but i'm not sure about grinding up bones...i'm thinking my cats wouldn't go for chunks of bone. I would also have to buy a grinder. Cassandra - Original Message - From: Belinda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 3:04 PM Subject: Homemdae Recipes from Books I got Hi All, I found a board that has already typed out some of the recipes that are in one of the books I ordered. It is from Dr Strombecks book. There are two recipes for renal cats and two for normal cats with no health problems. I use dark chicken meat and not the breast because my guys like it better and there is more fat in it. I also add taurine because I think most of it gets cooked out of the meat. I also add my usual supplements, nutrived, salmon oil, probotics, and other things Fred my CRF guy needs. I found out today Foster Farms chicken has NOT been fed the contaminated food which is the only chicken I buy, I was freaking out when I heard they were finding the chicken feed now contaminated but saying it wasn't in high enough doses to affect humans so they weren't doing anything about it. My God, what about those of us who are for obvious reasons now cooking for our cats? OK here is the link to the page with the recipes until I can get around to posting a few more, this should get you started: http://thepetfoodlist.com/forums/index.php?topic=152.0 -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/785 - Release Date: 5/2/2007 2:16 PM
