Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 48

[Heather Wienker]

I want to thank everyone for their care & concern for the kittens and Mom I
posted about.

If I had a spare room or something I could at least keep the one kitten who
is being sent to the sanctuary tomorrow (that we don't want it to go to) but
I don't even have a room to put it in temporarily, I'm in a small condo with
kitty population problems (including rescues) as it is...just don't want to
sound like one of those "unwilling" people, as if I were, I wouldn't already
have my existing situations:)

I do ferals, feed approx. 12 places each evening, 3 each a.m., probably 50
cats total and find myself involved in everything from TNR (of course)
to getting care for injured cats and also rescue for friendly strays and
such.  It's like a full time job, and unfortunately I have one of those too,
like everyone else here who loves cats, we find ourselves overloaded.

We do have a more comfortable situation locally (still not a "home"
environment but has a/c, heat in winter, smaller population with people I
trust 150%)  that the kittens can go to in a few months but the one lady is
not willing to keep her kitten any longer in wait so that's why she's taking
it to the other sanctuary tomorrow.   And, we've been unable to find anyone
willing to foster it.   Being social kittens, of course, living in a home
would be best but we are very thankful to have a wonderful place for them
down the road...just heartbroken that this one kitten has no place to go
until that time so is being sent elsewhere by the lady who has it (she found
& took that kitten two days before I trapped Mom and the other 2 kittens,
another lady she works with has the 4th).

Just wanted to clarify.   Vets haven't been optimistic about them throwing
the virus since 2 went from negative to positive but of course we will keep
hoping/retesting.   We were using Transfer Factor and will probably order
more in hopes of helping them.

Thank you all again!

Heather

Re: Wallace with the angels now

[catatonya]

Jean,
   
  I'm so sorry to read about your loss of Wallace.  I'm sorry.
  tonya

Jean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
Greetings, folks. 

I'd like to thank everybody for the support and
suggestions through my Wallace's brief-but-terminal
illness. I'm sorry to report that he left this world
on July 4 at 6:40PM, in my arms.

My LJ post is here: 
http://lyonessnyc.livejournal.com/68839.html

and a portrait I'd taken last year is here:
http://lyonessnyc.livejournal.com/69444.html

I love digital photography, and it's made great
portraits of my kitties possible. If you try, make
sure you have a macro function (it's usually the
little flower on a button) so you get their little
faces in focus.

This is a wonderful group of people, and I'm grateful
for all the help and support I got. I joined because I
was trying to help a FeLeuk cat (not mine) find a
home, and one of you wonderful people took Aries in
and from all reports, he's happy and healthy. I salute
the good work you all do, caring for these kitties.

Again, thanks.

-Jean




Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate 
in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.
http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367

RE: FELV kittens

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

I'm fairly certain the remaining kitten, Mickey, was from the same
litter as all the others, as he was the same size as the others, and the
same color as one of them. 
The others succumbed between the ages of 1 and 2 (they were 3 months old
when they found me in December 2003): 
Caramel died on Thanksgiving 2004, Levi January 2005, and Snoball and
Flavia on July 6, 2005.
Hang on in there Glenda. This is a great group for support!
Kerry PS If you're being told your email is awaiting approval it's very
likely because the string is too long. It just happened with this one so
I've chopped off the rest.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of glenda Goodman
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 11:16 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: FELV kittens


KERRY, HI! WELL IT LOOKS LIKE MY EMAILS ARE GETTING
THROUGH. THANK YOU FOR GETTING BACK TO US PEOPLE WITH
THE FeLV+ KITTENS. I AM GRATEFUL THAT MY VET HAD GIVEN
ME SOME HOPE, ALTHOUGH THE OTHER DAY I HAD MY KITTEN
RE-TESTED AND IT WAS AGAIN POSITIIIVE, BUT I HAD ONLY
WAITED ABOUT 3-WEEKS. MY VET WAS LESS OPTIMISTIC THIS
TIME. I THINK SHE DID NOT WANT ME TO FEEL TOO HOPEFUL.
THE VET I USED BEFORE HAD OFFERED TO PUT MY KITTEN
DOWN THE MINUTE THE TEST CAME BACK POS. HE WAS TRYING
TO RELIEVE ME OF MY PAIN, BUT I RAN OUT OF THE CLINIC
WITH MY KITTY AND FOUND A MORE CAT-FRIENDLY VET...I
BELIEVE AND HOPE SOMEONE BETTER INFORMED..
WELL, THE FACT ONE OF YOUR KITTENS EVENTUALLY TESTED
NEG. IS A BRIGHT SPOT. WAS THIS FROM A LITTER FROM
WHERE THE OTHERS NEVER THREW THE VIRUS OR WAS THIS A
COMPLETELY SEPERATE CAT? HOW OLD WERE THE KITTENS YOU
HAD BEFORE THEY DEVELOPED SYMPTONS AND PASSED AWAY?  I
KNOW THINKING ABOUT ALL THIS IS HARD...WE ARE JUST ALL
TRYING TO LEARN ALL WE CAN ABOUT THIS DISEASE AND HOW
BEST TO DEAL WITH IT. KERRY, THANK YOU SO MUCH! 
GLENDA IN NEBRASKA
 
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RE: FELV kittens

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

I'm fairly certain the remaining kitten, Mickey, was from the same
litter as all the others, as he was the same size as the others, and the
same color as one of them. 
The others succumbed between the ages of 1 and 2 (they were 3 months old
when they found me in December 2003): 
Caramel died on Thanksgiving 2004, Levi January 2005, and Snoball and
Flavia on July 6, 2005.
Hang on in there Glenda. This is a great group for support!
Kerry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of glenda Goodman
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 11:16 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: FELV kittens


KERRY, HI! WELL IT LOOKS LIKE MY EMAILS ARE GETTING
THROUGH. THANK YOU FOR GETTING BACK TO US PEOPLE WITH
THE FeLV+ KITTENS. I AM GRATEFUL THAT MY VET HAD GIVEN
ME SOME HOPE, ALTHOUGH THE OTHER DAY I HAD MY KITTEN
RE-TESTED AND IT WAS AGAIN POSITIIIVE, BUT I HAD ONLY
WAITED ABOUT 3-WEEKS. MY VET WAS LESS OPTIMISTIC THIS
TIME. I THINK SHE DID NOT WANT ME TO FEEL TOO HOPEFUL.
THE VET I USED BEFORE HAD OFFERED TO PUT MY KITTEN
DOWN THE MINUTE THE TEST CAME BACK POS. HE WAS TRYING
TO RELIEVE ME OF MY PAIN, BUT I RAN OUT OF THE CLINIC
WITH MY KITTY AND FOUND A MORE CAT-FRIENDLY VET...I
BELIEVE AND HOPE SOMEONE BETTER INFORMED..
WELL, THE FACT ONE OF YOUR KITTENS EVENTUALLY TESTED
NEG. IS A BRIGHT SPOT. WAS THIS FROM A LITTER FROM
WHERE THE OTHERS NEVER THREW THE VIRUS OR WAS THIS A
COMPLETELY SEPERATE CAT? HOW OLD WERE THE KITTENS YOU
HAD BEFORE THEY DEVELOPED SYMPTONS AND PASSED AWAY?  I
KNOW THINKING ABOUT ALL THIS IS HARD...WE ARE JUST ALL
TRYING TO LEARN ALL WE CAN ABOUT THIS DISEASE AND HOW
BEST TO DEAL WITH IT. KERRY, THANK YOU SO MUCH! 
GLENDA IN NEBRASKA  
--- "MacKenzie, Kerry N."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Glenda and Heather
> I haven't read your previous posts (and I'm at work,
> so have to be
> quick) but just wanted to say I had 5 FeLV positive
> kittens, and one
> slightly older cat who was negative but who lived
> with them (they came
> as a colony so she had already been exposed). I gave
> them 13 supplements
> daily and tried to keep their environment
> stress-free (they lived in my
> 2nd bedroom). Sadly 4 of the kittens succumbed, but
> one threw off the
> virus and is now negative. The older cat has
> remained negative. So, yes,
> there is hope. But even tho the others didn't make
> it, I know I gave
> them quality of life, and love, for the brief time
> they had. As you are
> doing for your sweet furballs.  Your vet sounds a
> real goodie Glenda
> (many unfortunately are not so enlightened). Welcome
> to the list, and I
> wish you both all the best for you and your kitts.
> Kerry M.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of glenda Goodman
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 10:42 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: FELV kittens
> 
> 
> Heather, I read your email...never tried to answer
> an
> email on this site, so hope it works...Anyway, I
> feel
> very sorry for you and the kitties. I am new to this
> site too. After I found out I had a FeLV+ kitten
> about
> a month ago, I discovered this site and have been
> reading everything possible trying to understand
> these
> diseases and find hope for the kitten I have.I have
> a
> little girl, Bengal mix, polydactyl...so
> intelligent,
> so beautiful and so healthy, but FeLV+...
>  My vet told me there is a chance when the FeLV
> comes
> through the queen there is a chance the kittens
> could
> beat the disease with good diet and environments, no
> stress and could someday test negative. If there is
> anyone out there that can give people in our
> situation
> some hope our kittens can beat this disease please
> share what you know that we do not...Thank you.
> Meanwhile Heather, good-luck to you with finding
> someone wonderful enough to help you with those
> kitties...Glenda Larsen in Nebraska
> --- Heather Wienker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hello-
> > 
> > I am new to this group, having  trapped an injured
> > Mom kitty at my new job,
> > who turned out to be FELV & FIV positive and a
> > nursing Mom.  This was in
> > April, I had 3 injured cats in my first two weeks
> of
> > changing jobs, I work
> > with ferals and it's been one of those
> years...it's
> > especially sad as I'm
> > told someone trapped this Mom last year, she was
> not
> > injured at the time,
> > they got a kitten from her that was negative (so
> she
> > may have been as well),
> > and she went back out unspayed even though they
> > (incorrectly) thought she
> > was declawed.   This whole thing could have been
> > avoided, and Mom is a very
> > sad kitty who has obviously been hurt by this
> world.
> >  She has an eye and ear
> > injury and is very meek and depressed.
> > 
> > Of her kittens, two initiallly tested + for both
> > FELV & FIV, two only + for
> > FIVsadly, they have now retested + for
> leukemia.
> >  Three cleared the FIV,
> > the fourth may h

RE: FELV kittens

[glenda Goodman]

KERRY, HI! WELL IT LOOKS LIKE MY EMAILS ARE GETTING
THROUGH. THANK YOU FOR GETTING BACK TO US PEOPLE WITH
THE FeLV+ KITTENS. I AM GRATEFUL THAT MY VET HAD GIVEN
ME SOME HOPE, ALTHOUGH THE OTHER DAY I HAD MY KITTEN
RE-TESTED AND IT WAS AGAIN POSITIIIVE, BUT I HAD ONLY
WAITED ABOUT 3-WEEKS. MY VET WAS LESS OPTIMISTIC THIS
TIME. I THINK SHE DID NOT WANT ME TO FEEL TOO HOPEFUL.
THE VET I USED BEFORE HAD OFFERED TO PUT MY KITTEN
DOWN THE MINUTE THE TEST CAME BACK POS. HE WAS TRYING
TO RELIEVE ME OF MY PAIN, BUT I RAN OUT OF THE CLINIC
WITH MY KITTY AND FOUND A MORE CAT-FRIENDLY VET...I
BELIEVE AND HOPE SOMEONE BETTER INFORMED..
WELL, THE FACT ONE OF YOUR KITTENS EVENTUALLY TESTED
NEG. IS A BRIGHT SPOT. WAS THIS FROM A LITTER FROM
WHERE THE OTHERS NEVER THREW THE VIRUS OR WAS THIS A
COMPLETELY SEPERATE CAT? HOW OLD WERE THE KITTENS YOU
HAD BEFORE THEY DEVELOPED SYMPTONS AND PASSED AWAY?  I
KNOW THINKING ABOUT ALL THIS IS HARD...WE ARE JUST ALL
TRYING TO LEARN ALL WE CAN ABOUT THIS DISEASE AND HOW
BEST TO DEAL WITH IT. KERRY, THANK YOU SO MUCH! 
GLENDA IN NEBRASKA  
--- "MacKenzie, Kerry N."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Glenda and Heather
> I haven't read your previous posts (and I'm at work,
> so have to be
> quick) but just wanted to say I had 5 FeLV positive
> kittens, and one
> slightly older cat who was negative but who lived
> with them (they came
> as a colony so she had already been exposed). I gave
> them 13 supplements
> daily and tried to keep their environment
> stress-free (they lived in my
> 2nd bedroom). Sadly 4 of the kittens succumbed, but
> one threw off the
> virus and is now negative. The older cat has
> remained negative. So, yes,
> there is hope. But even tho the others didn't make
> it, I know I gave
> them quality of life, and love, for the brief time
> they had. As you are
> doing for your sweet furballs.  Your vet sounds a
> real goodie Glenda
> (many unfortunately are not so enlightened). Welcome
> to the list, and I
> wish you both all the best for you and your kitts.
> Kerry M.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of glenda Goodman
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 10:42 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: FELV kittens
> 
> 
> Heather, I read your email...never tried to answer
> an
> email on this site, so hope it works...Anyway, I
> feel
> very sorry for you and the kitties. I am new to this
> site too. After I found out I had a FeLV+ kitten
> about
> a month ago, I discovered this site and have been
> reading everything possible trying to understand
> these
> diseases and find hope for the kitten I have.I have
> a
> little girl, Bengal mix, polydactyl...so
> intelligent,
> so beautiful and so healthy, but FeLV+...
>  My vet told me there is a chance when the FeLV
> comes
> through the queen there is a chance the kittens
> could
> beat the disease with good diet and environments, no
> stress and could someday test negative. If there is
> anyone out there that can give people in our
> situation
> some hope our kittens can beat this disease please
> share what you know that we do not...Thank you.
> Meanwhile Heather, good-luck to you with finding
> someone wonderful enough to help you with those
> kitties...Glenda Larsen in Nebraska
> --- Heather Wienker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hello-
> > 
> > I am new to this group, having  trapped an injured
> > Mom kitty at my new job,
> > who turned out to be FELV & FIV positive and a
> > nursing Mom.  This was in
> > April, I had 3 injured cats in my first two weeks
> of
> > changing jobs, I work
> > with ferals and it's been one of those
> years...it's
> > especially sad as I'm
> > told someone trapped this Mom last year, she was
> not
> > injured at the time,
> > they got a kitten from her that was negative (so
> she
> > may have been as well),
> > and she went back out unspayed even though they
> > (incorrectly) thought she
> > was declawed.   This whole thing could have been
> > avoided, and Mom is a very
> > sad kitty who has obviously been hurt by this
> world.
> >  She has an eye and ear
> > injury and is very meek and depressed.
> > 
> > Of her kittens, two initiallly tested + for both
> > FELV & FIV, two only + for
> > FIVsadly, they have now retested + for
> leukemia.
> >  Three cleared the FIV,
> > the fourth may have as well but the person who has
> > him has not retested yet
> > (I have no control over this unless I take the
> > kitten from her permanently
> > and have not been able to find a foster, I have no
> > room whatsoever myself,
> > it's been a somewhat unfriendly situation of
> impasse
> > in dealing with the
> > ladies at work as they've wanted me to place them
> > asap and me only having a
> > sanctuary option available a little further down
> the
> > road).  The kittens are
> > approx. 4 months old and very social.
> > 
> > We haven't been able to find homes or foster homes
> > and the ladies who
> > currently have them had given me

Re: FELV kittens

[Gloria Lane]

Yup, not stated very well.  These four were over 3 years when I got  
them.


Gloria


On Jul 14, 2007, at 8:55 AM, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:


>>.I have not had any live past 2.5-3 years old.<<
Hi Gloria--not sure what you mean---you have 3 positives that are  
over 10, right? Kerry




 -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:felvtalk- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane

Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: FELV kittens

Since 2001, I've had 9 FELV+ kitties (I have to list them:   
Calawalla Banana Booboo, Mittens Mr. Black Kitty, Dallas, Houston,  
Felicity, Chloe, Oliver, B.B.).


The first 5 are now dead, all but one died at age 2.5-3 years.   
Actually I never know how old Mr. Black Kitty was - he looked old,  
but probably was not.


The last 4 are alive, and 3 of them are over 10 years old (and have  
had the virus a while, before I got them). B.B. is 4+ years old.


I have not had any live past 2.5-3 years old.  if I got any more  
that were younger than that age, I'd put them on daily low-dose  
oral interferon alpha, with the theory that the dose supplements  
what their body isn't successfully creating to support the immune  
system.


Gloria





On Jul 14, 2007, at 2:53 AM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO wrote:


Statistically

 - about 2/3 of kitties who are exponsed to the virus end up throw  
off the virus - and, I believe that chances are better if a kitty  
is older when they are actually exposed to the virus.


There is no way for us to know how reliable this statisic  
informaiton is -- but we know that it does happen..


Though your kitty may not throw off the virus, it does not mean  
the immediate death sentense... There are many people on the list  
whose felk kitties live for a long time healthfully -- so , please  
don't be in despair..

- Original Message -
From: glenda Goodman
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: FELV kittens

Heather, I read your email...never tried to answer an
email on this site, so hope it works...Anyway, I feel
very sorry for you and the kitties. I am new to this
site too. After I found out I had a FeLV+ kitten about
a month ago, I discovered this site and have been
reading everything possible trying to understand these
diseases and find hope for the kitten I have.I have a
little girl, Bengal mix, polydactyl...so intelligent,
so beautiful and so healthy, but FeLV+...
 My vet told me there is a chance when the FeLV comes
through the queen there is a chance the kittens could
beat the disease with good diet and environments, no
stress and could someday test negative. If there is
anyone out there that can give people in our situation
some hope our kittens can beat this disease please
share what you know that we do not...Thank you.
Meanwhile Heather, good-luck to you with finding
someone wonderful enough to help you with those
kitties...Glenda Larsen in Nebraska
--- Heather Wienker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello-
>
> I am new to this group, having  trapped an injured
> Mom kitty at my new job,
> who turned out to be FELV & FIV positive and a
> nursing Mom.  This was in
> April, I had 3 injured cats in my first two weeks of
> changing jobs, I work
> with ferals and it's been one of those years...it's
> especially sad as I'm
> told someone trapped this Mom last year, she was not
> injured at the time,
> they got a kitten from her that was negative (so she
> may have been as well),
> and she went back out unspayed even though they
> (incorrectly) thought she
> was declawed.   This whole thing could have been
> avoided, and Mom is a very
> sad kitty who has obviously been hurt by this world.
>  She has an eye and ear
> injury and is very meek and depressed.
>
> Of her kittens, two initiallly tested + for both
> FELV & FIV, two only + for
> FIVsadly, they have now retested + for leukemia.
>  Three cleared the FIV,
> the fourth may have as well but the person who has
> him has not retested yet
> (I have no control over this unless I take the
> kitten from her permanently
> and have not been able to find a foster, I have no
> room whatsoever myself,
> it's been a somewhat unfriendly situation of impasse
> in dealing with the
> ladies at work as they've wanted me to place them
> asap and me only having a
> sanctuary option available a little further down the
> road).  The kittens are
> approx. 4 months old and very social.
>
> We haven't been able to find homes or foster homes
> and the ladies who
> currently have them had given me until June 30 to
> find homes or fosters or
> they would have them euthanized.  They haven't done
> so yet but one is taking
> hers to a different (very large, over 700 cats)
> sanctuary this Sunday, which
> I am troubled by as this kitten is extremely social
> and has lived indoors
> since 5 weeks of age, though of course I appreciate
> the help of a reputable
> sanctuary.
>
> I don't have much time on the one kitten, but

Re: FELV kittens

[glenda Goodman]

HIDEYO, MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS HOW COMMON IS IT FOR
THESE KITTENS BORN TO A FeLV+ QUEEN TO THROW OFF THE
VIRUS?  THERE WERE SIX KITTENS FROM THIS LITTER AND
ALL WERE ADOPTED BY LOVING PEOPLE WHO ARE WAITING AND
HOLDING ON TO THEIR KITTIES, HOPING THAT THEY WILL BE
ABLE TO FIGHT THIS DISEASE OFF. THEY WERE ADOPTED OUT
OF A RESCUE ORGANIZATION IN MONTANA THAT HAS SINCE
CHANGED IT'S POLICY...WHERE IT HAS NOW DECIDED TO TEST
ALL MOMMY CATS WITH LITTERS AS THE BABIES ARE TOO
YOUNG TO TEST SOMETIMES BEFORE BEING ADOPTED OUT...AT
LEAST IF THE MOMMY TESTS POSITIVE THE PEOPLE CAN BE
TOLD AND IF WILLING TO TAKE ON A POSITIVE KITTEN CAN
TEST AGAIN LATER. IT IS A TRICKY SITUATION NO MATTER
HOW YOU LOOK AT IT AS A MOMMY CAT COULD TEST A FALSE
POSITIVE...AND THIS COULD CONDEMN A WHOLE LITTER OF
KITTENS...THANKS TO YOU OR ANYONE OUT THERE
EXPERIENCED IN WHAT I AM GOING THROUGH HERE...GLENDA
IN NEBRASKA
--- HIDEYO YAMAMOTO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Statistically  - about 2/3 of kitties who are
> exponsed to the virus end up throw off the virus -
> and, I believe that chances are better if a kitty is
> older when they are actually exposed to the virus.
> 
> There is no way for us to know how reliable this
> statisic informaiton is -- but we know that it does
> happen..
> 
> Though your kitty may not throw off the virus, it
> does not mean the immediate death sentense... There
> are many people on the list whose felk kitties live
> for a long time healthfully -- so , please don't be
> in despair.. 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: glenda
> Goodman 
>   To:
>
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> 
>   Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:41 PM
>   Subject: Re: FELV kittens
> 
> 
>   Heather, I read your email...never tried to answer
> an
>   email on this site, so hope it works...Anyway, I
> feel
>   very sorry for you and the kitties. I am new to
> this
>   site too. After I found out I had a FeLV+ kitten
> about
>   a month ago, I discovered this site and have been
>   reading everything possible trying to understand
> these
>   diseases and find hope for the kitten I have.I
> have a
>   little girl, Bengal mix, polydactyl...so
> intelligent,
>   so beautiful and so healthy, but FeLV+...
>My vet told me there is a chance when the FeLV
> comes
>   through the queen there is a chance the kittens
> could
>   beat the disease with good diet and environments,
> no
>   stress and could someday test negative. If there
> is
>   anyone out there that can give people in our
> situation
>   some hope our kittens can beat this disease please
>   share what you know that we do not...Thank you.
>   Meanwhile Heather, good-luck to you with finding
>   someone wonderful enough to help you with those
>   kitties...Glenda Larsen in Nebraska
>   --- Heather Wienker
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>   > Hello-
>   > 
>   > I am new to this group, having  trapped an
> injured
>   > Mom kitty at my new job,
>   > who turned out to be FELV & FIV positive and a
>   > nursing Mom.  This was in
>   > April, I had 3 injured cats in my first two
> weeks of
>   > changing jobs, I work
>   > with ferals and it's been one of those
> years...it's
>   > especially sad as I'm
>   > told someone trapped this Mom last year, she was
> not
>   > injured at the time,
>   > they got a kitten from her that was negative (so
> she
>   > may have been as well),
>   > and she went back out unspayed even though they
>   > (incorrectly) thought she
>   > was declawed.   This whole thing could have been
>   > avoided, and Mom is a very
>   > sad kitty who has obviously been hurt by this
> world.
>   >  She has an eye and ear
>   > injury and is very meek and depressed.
>   > 
>   > Of her kittens, two initiallly tested + for both
>   > FELV & FIV, two only + for
>   > FIVsadly, they have now retested + for
> leukemia.
>   >  Three cleared the FIV,
>   > the fourth may have as well but the person who
> has
>   > him has not retested yet
>   > (I have no control over this unless I take the
>   > kitten from her permanently
>   > and have not been able to find a foster, I have
> no
>   > room whatsoever myself,
>   > it's been a somewhat unfriendly situation of
> impasse
>   > in dealing with the
>   > ladies at work as they've wanted me to place
> them
>   > asap and me only having a
>   > sanctuary option available a little further down
> the
>   > road).  The kittens are
>   > approx. 4 months old and very social.
>   > 
>   > We haven't been able to find homes or foster
> homes
>   > and the ladies who
>   > currently have them had given me until June 30
> to
>   > find homes or fosters or
>   > they would have them euthanized.  They haven't
> done
>   > so yet but one is taking
>   > hers to a different (very large, over 700 cats)
>   > sanctuary this Sunday, which
>   > I am troubled by as this kitten is extremely
> social
>   > and has lived indoors
>   > since 5 weeks 

RE: FELV kittens

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

>>.I have not had any live past 2.5-3 years old.<<
Hi Gloria--not sure what you mean---you have 3 positives that are over
10, right? Kerry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: FELV kittens


Since 2001, I've had 9 FELV+ kitties (I have to list them:  Calawalla
Banana Booboo, Mittens Mr. Black Kitty, Dallas, Houston, Felicity,
Chloe, Oliver, B.B.).

The first 5 are now dead, all but one died at age 2.5-3 years.  Actually
I never know how old Mr. Black Kitty was - he looked old, but probably
was not.   

The last 4 are alive, and 3 of them are over 10 years old (and have had
the virus a while, before I got them). B.B. is 4+ years old.

I have not had any live past 2.5-3 years old.  if I got any more that
were younger than that age, I'd put them on daily low-dose oral
interferon alpha, with the theory that the dose supplements what their
body isn't successfully creating to support the immune system. 

Gloria





On Jul 14, 2007, at 2:53 AM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO wrote:



Statistically 

 - about 2/3 of kitties who are exponsed to the virus end up
throw off the virus - and, I believe that chances are better if a kitty
is older when they are actually exposed to the virus.
 
There is no way for us to know how reliable this statisic
informaiton is -- but we know that it does happen..
 
Though your kitty may not throw off the virus, it does not mean
the immediate death sentense... There are many people on the list whose
felk kitties live for a long time healthfully -- so , please don't be in
despair..

- Original Message -
From: glenda Goodman  
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: FELV kittens

Heather, I read your email...never tried to answer an
email on this site, so hope it works...Anyway, I feel
very sorry for you and the kitties. I am new to this
site too. After I found out I had a FeLV+ kitten about
a month ago, I discovered this site and have been
reading everything possible trying to understand these
diseases and find hope for the kitten I have.I have a
little girl, Bengal mix, polydactyl...so intelligent,
so beautiful and so healthy, but FeLV+...
 My vet told me there is a chance when the FeLV comes
through the queen there is a chance the kittens could
beat the disease with good diet and environments, no
stress and could someday test negative. If there is
anyone out there that can give people in our situation
some hope our kittens can beat this disease please
share what you know that we do not...Thank you.
Meanwhile Heather, good-luck to you with finding
someone wonderful enough to help you with those
kitties...Glenda Larsen in Nebraska
--- Heather Wienker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > wrote:

> Hello-
> 
> I am new to this group, having  trapped an injured
> Mom kitty at my new job,
> who turned out to be FELV & FIV positive and a
> nursing Mom.  This was in
> April, I had 3 injured cats in my first two weeks of
> changing jobs, I work
> with ferals and it's been one of those years...it's
> especially sad as I'm
> told someone trapped this Mom last year, she was not
> injured at the time,
> they got a kitten from her that was negative (so she
> may have been as well),
> and she went back out unspayed even though they
> (incorrectly) thought she
> was declawed.   This whole thing could have been
> avoided, and Mom is a very
> sad kitty who has obviously been hurt by this world.
>  She has an eye and ear
> injury and is very meek and depressed.
> 
> Of her kittens, two initiallly tested + for both
> FELV & FIV, two only + for
> FIVsadly, they have now retested + for leukemia.
>  Three cleared the FIV,
> the fourth may have as well but the person who has
> him has not retested yet
> (I have no control over this unless I take the
> kitten from her permanently
> and have

Re: FELV kittens

[Gloria Lane]

Since 2001, I've had 9 FELV+ kitties (I have to list them:  Calawalla  
Banana Booboo, Mittens Mr. Black Kitty, Dallas, Houston, Felicity,  
Chloe, Oliver, B.B.).


The first 5 are now dead, all but one died at age 2.5-3 years.   
Actually I never know how old Mr. Black Kitty was - he looked old,  
but probably was not.


The last 4 are alive, and 3 of them are over 10 years old (and have  
had the virus a while, before I got them). B.B. is 4+ years old.


I have not had any live past 2.5-3 years old.  if I got any more that  
were younger than that age, I'd put them on daily low-dose oral  
interferon alpha, with the theory that the dose supplements what  
their body isn't successfully creating to support the immune system.


Gloria





On Jul 14, 2007, at 2:53 AM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO wrote:


Statistically

 - about 2/3 of kitties who are exponsed to the virus end up throw  
off the virus - and, I believe that chances are better if a kitty  
is older when they are actually exposed to the virus.


There is no way for us to know how reliable this statisic  
informaiton is -- but we know that it does happen..


Though your kitty may not throw off the virus, it does not mean the  
immediate death sentense... There are many people on the list whose  
felk kitties live for a long time healthfully -- so , please don't  
be in despair..

- Original Message -
From: glenda Goodman
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: FELV kittens

Heather, I read your email...never tried to answer an
email on this site, so hope it works...Anyway, I feel
very sorry for you and the kitties. I am new to this
site too. After I found out I had a FeLV+ kitten about
a month ago, I discovered this site and have been
reading everything possible trying to understand these
diseases and find hope for the kitten I have.I have a
little girl, Bengal mix, polydactyl...so intelligent,
so beautiful and so healthy, but FeLV+...
 My vet told me there is a chance when the FeLV comes
through the queen there is a chance the kittens could
beat the disease with good diet and environments, no
stress and could someday test negative. If there is
anyone out there that can give people in our situation
some hope our kittens can beat this disease please
share what you know that we do not...Thank you.
Meanwhile Heather, good-luck to you with finding
someone wonderful enough to help you with those
kitties...Glenda Larsen in Nebraska
--- Heather Wienker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello-
>
> I am new to this group, having  trapped an injured
> Mom kitty at my new job,
> who turned out to be FELV & FIV positive and a
> nursing Mom.  This was in
> April, I had 3 injured cats in my first two weeks of
> changing jobs, I work
> with ferals and it's been one of those years...it's
> especially sad as I'm
> told someone trapped this Mom last year, she was not
> injured at the time,
> they got a kitten from her that was negative (so she
> may have been as well),
> and she went back out unspayed even though they
> (incorrectly) thought she
> was declawed.   This whole thing could have been
> avoided, and Mom is a very
> sad kitty who has obviously been hurt by this world.
>  She has an eye and ear
> injury and is very meek and depressed.
>
> Of her kittens, two initiallly tested + for both
> FELV & FIV, two only + for
> FIVsadly, they have now retested + for leukemia.
>  Three cleared the FIV,
> the fourth may have as well but the person who has
> him has not retested yet
> (I have no control over this unless I take the
> kitten from her permanently
> and have not been able to find a foster, I have no
> room whatsoever myself,
> it's been a somewhat unfriendly situation of impasse
> in dealing with the
> ladies at work as they've wanted me to place them
> asap and me only having a
> sanctuary option available a little further down the
> road).  The kittens are
> approx. 4 months old and very social.
>
> We haven't been able to find homes or foster homes
> and the ladies who
> currently have them had given me until June 30 to
> find homes or fosters or
> they would have them euthanized.  They haven't done
> so yet but one is taking
> hers to a different (very large, over 700 cats)
> sanctuary this Sunday, which
> I am troubled by as this kitten is extremely social
> and has lived indoors
> since 5 weeks of age, though of course I appreciate
> the help of a reputable
> sanctuary.
>
> I don't have much time on the one kitten, but will
> continue to search for
> homes for the other 3; two of them have been
> together all this time and are
> very bonded, those are the two who initially were
> only FIV+ but retested
> positive for leukemia.  I know this is confusing,
> but basically, 4 FELV+
> kittens need homes, two need a home together.   All
> have been tested twice
> but the 4th whom I do not have in my
> posession...it's been a difficult
> situation without going into it further on dynamics.
>   I am heavily involved
> wi

RE: FELV kittens

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

Hi Glenda and Heather
I haven't read your previous posts (and I'm at work, so have to be
quick) but just wanted to say I had 5 FeLV positive kittens, and one
slightly older cat who was negative but who lived with them (they came
as a colony so she had already been exposed). I gave them 13 supplements
daily and tried to keep their environment stress-free (they lived in my
2nd bedroom). Sadly 4 of the kittens succumbed, but one threw off the
virus and is now negative. The older cat has remained negative. So, yes,
there is hope. But even tho the others didn't make it, I know I gave
them quality of life, and love, for the brief time they had. As you are
doing for your sweet furballs.  Your vet sounds a real goodie Glenda
(many unfortunately are not so enlightened). Welcome to the list, and I
wish you both all the best for you and your kitts. Kerry M.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of glenda Goodman
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 10:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: FELV kittens


Heather, I read your email...never tried to answer an
email on this site, so hope it works...Anyway, I feel
very sorry for you and the kitties. I am new to this
site too. After I found out I had a FeLV+ kitten about
a month ago, I discovered this site and have been
reading everything possible trying to understand these
diseases and find hope for the kitten I have.I have a
little girl, Bengal mix, polydactyl...so intelligent,
so beautiful and so healthy, but FeLV+...
 My vet told me there is a chance when the FeLV comes
through the queen there is a chance the kittens could
beat the disease with good diet and environments, no
stress and could someday test negative. If there is
anyone out there that can give people in our situation
some hope our kittens can beat this disease please
share what you know that we do not...Thank you.
Meanwhile Heather, good-luck to you with finding
someone wonderful enough to help you with those
kitties...Glenda Larsen in Nebraska
--- Heather Wienker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello-
> 
> I am new to this group, having  trapped an injured
> Mom kitty at my new job,
> who turned out to be FELV & FIV positive and a
> nursing Mom.  This was in
> April, I had 3 injured cats in my first two weeks of
> changing jobs, I work
> with ferals and it's been one of those years...it's
> especially sad as I'm
> told someone trapped this Mom last year, she was not
> injured at the time,
> they got a kitten from her that was negative (so she
> may have been as well),
> and she went back out unspayed even though they
> (incorrectly) thought she
> was declawed.   This whole thing could have been
> avoided, and Mom is a very
> sad kitty who has obviously been hurt by this world.
>  She has an eye and ear
> injury and is very meek and depressed.
> 
> Of her kittens, two initiallly tested + for both
> FELV & FIV, two only + for
> FIVsadly, they have now retested + for leukemia.
>  Three cleared the FIV,
> the fourth may have as well but the person who has
> him has not retested yet
> (I have no control over this unless I take the
> kitten from her permanently
> and have not been able to find a foster, I have no
> room whatsoever myself,
> it's been a somewhat unfriendly situation of impasse
> in dealing with the
> ladies at work as they've wanted me to place them
> asap and me only having a
> sanctuary option available a little further down the
> road).  The kittens are
> approx. 4 months old and very social.
> 
> We haven't been able to find homes or foster homes
> and the ladies who
> currently have them had given me until June 30 to
> find homes or fosters or
> they would have them euthanized.  They haven't done
> so yet but one is taking
> hers to a different (very large, over 700 cats)
> sanctuary this Sunday, which
> I am troubled by as this kitten is extremely social
> and has lived indoors
> since 5 weeks of age, though of course I appreciate
> the help of a reputable
> sanctuary.
> 
> I don't have much time on the one kitten, but will
> continue to search for
> homes for the other 3; two of them have been
> together all this time and are
> very bonded, those are the two who initially were
> only FIV+ but retested
> positive for leukemia.  I know this is confusing,
> but basically, 4 FELV+
> kittens need homes, two need a home together.   All
> have been tested twice
> but the 4th whom I do not have in my
> posession...it's been a difficult
> situation without going into it further on dynamics.
>   I am heavily involved
> with multiple colonies and have exhausted all of my
> rescue
> friends/resources as far as fosters or homes go for
> the many kitties I am
> trying to help, including these guys who are
> difficult to place as FELV+.
> 
> If anyone knows persons who might be interested in
> adopting one or two FELV+
> kittens from Tampa, Florida, please pass this along.
> 
> Thank you all for loving FELV+ Kitties!
> -- 
> Heather
> 



   
_

Re: FELV kittens

[HIDEYO YAMAMOTO]

Statistically  - about 2/3 of kitties who are exponsed to the virus end up 
throw off the virus - and, I believe that chances are better if a kitty is 
older when they are actually exposed to the virus.

There is no way for us to know how reliable this statisic informaiton is -- but 
we know that it does happen..

Though your kitty may not throw off the virus, it does not mean the immediate 
death sentense... There are many people on the list whose felk kitties live for 
a long time healthfully -- so , please don't be in despair.. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: glenda Goodman 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:41 PM
  Subject: Re: FELV kittens


  Heather, I read your email...never tried to answer an
  email on this site, so hope it works...Anyway, I feel
  very sorry for you and the kitties. I am new to this
  site too. After I found out I had a FeLV+ kitten about
  a month ago, I discovered this site and have been
  reading everything possible trying to understand these
  diseases and find hope for the kitten I have.I have a
  little girl, Bengal mix, polydactyl...so intelligent,
  so beautiful and so healthy, but FeLV+...
   My vet told me there is a chance when the FeLV comes
  through the queen there is a chance the kittens could
  beat the disease with good diet and environments, no
  stress and could someday test negative. If there is
  anyone out there that can give people in our situation
  some hope our kittens can beat this disease please
  share what you know that we do not...Thank you.
  Meanwhile Heather, good-luck to you with finding
  someone wonderful enough to help you with those
  kitties...Glenda Larsen in Nebraska
  --- Heather Wienker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  > Hello-
  > 
  > I am new to this group, having  trapped an injured
  > Mom kitty at my new job,
  > who turned out to be FELV & FIV positive and a
  > nursing Mom.  This was in
  > April, I had 3 injured cats in my first two weeks of
  > changing jobs, I work
  > with ferals and it's been one of those years...it's
  > especially sad as I'm
  > told someone trapped this Mom last year, she was not
  > injured at the time,
  > they got a kitten from her that was negative (so she
  > may have been as well),
  > and she went back out unspayed even though they
  > (incorrectly) thought she
  > was declawed.   This whole thing could have been
  > avoided, and Mom is a very
  > sad kitty who has obviously been hurt by this world.
  >  She has an eye and ear
  > injury and is very meek and depressed.
  > 
  > Of her kittens, two initiallly tested + for both
  > FELV & FIV, two only + for
  > FIVsadly, they have now retested + for leukemia.
  >  Three cleared the FIV,
  > the fourth may have as well but the person who has
  > him has not retested yet
  > (I have no control over this unless I take the
  > kitten from her permanently
  > and have not been able to find a foster, I have no
  > room whatsoever myself,
  > it's been a somewhat unfriendly situation of impasse
  > in dealing with the
  > ladies at work as they've wanted me to place them
  > asap and me only having a
  > sanctuary option available a little further down the
  > road).  The kittens are
  > approx. 4 months old and very social.
  > 
  > We haven't been able to find homes or foster homes
  > and the ladies who
  > currently have them had given me until June 30 to
  > find homes or fosters or
  > they would have them euthanized.  They haven't done
  > so yet but one is taking
  > hers to a different (very large, over 700 cats)
  > sanctuary this Sunday, which
  > I am troubled by as this kitten is extremely social
  > and has lived indoors
  > since 5 weeks of age, though of course I appreciate
  > the help of a reputable
  > sanctuary.
  > 
  > I don't have much time on the one kitten, but will
  > continue to search for
  > homes for the other 3; two of them have been
  > together all this time and are
  > very bonded, those are the two who initially were
  > only FIV+ but retested
  > positive for leukemia.  I know this is confusing,
  > but basically, 4 FELV+
  > kittens need homes, two need a home together.   All
  > have been tested twice
  > but the 4th whom I do not have in my
  > posession...it's been a difficult
  > situation without going into it further on dynamics.
  >   I am heavily involved
  > with multiple colonies and have exhausted all of my
  > rescue
  > friends/resources as far as fosters or homes go for
  > the many kitties I am
  > trying to help, including these guys who are
  > difficult to place as FELV+.
  > 
  > If anyone knows persons who might be interested in
  > adopting one or two FELV+
  > kittens from Tampa, Florida, please pass this along.
  > 
  > Thank you all for loving FELV+ Kitties!
  > -- 
  > Heather
  > 



 
  
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