Re: Belinda, please add Miss Sue to the Candlelighting ceremony?
I'm so sorry for your loss of Miss Sue. tonya anne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Belinda, Miss Sue was not feline leukemia positive. She was with me for 8 years and was 10 years old. She died suddenly on Friday. I suspect her poor heart as she was obese and although I was working on it with her and thought some progress was being made over the last year, it was very slow going. I suspect she had a metabolic disorder, though, as her coat was always greasy and flecked with dandruff-like particles, ever since I first got her. She was a sweet and never complaining girl, very friendly to humans who visited, which is an oddity in itself at my house. Most of my cats run and hide until the stranger is gone. She always purred when I pet her and loved being combed and watching birds out the window. She was white with tabby-like striped patches. She was loved by all who knew her. Thanks, Belinda, Anne and angels Jimi Too Cool, Simms, Buggsy and Nala, all feline leukemia positive and lots of other fur covered friends in MI, including Sophie, who loves you all here
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
I have never heard of Valtrex. A faint positive at 4months could indicate that she has been exposed and will fight off the virus. Your situation is very hopeful for that to happen. In the meantime I would boost her immune system with vitamin C and lysine. Others on the list can give you more ideas. tonya Quentin Sonnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
Unless I am thinking of something else, Valtrex is a drug used to control herpes outbreaks in humans (I only know this because commercials are on TV all the time for it) I've never heard of giving it to a cat. On 7/29/07, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have never heard of Valtrex. A faint positive at 4months could indicate > that she has been exposed and will fight off the virus. Your situation is > very hopeful for that to happen. In the meantime I would boost her immune > system with vitamin C and lysine. Others on the list can give you more > ideas. > > tonya > > > Quentin Sonnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a sweet little black with white tip > girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested > and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on > treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad > idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly > appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. > Quentin Sonnier > > > > Ready > for the edge of your seat? > Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. > http://tv.yahoo.com/ > > > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
i wouldn't give ANYTHING to kitty that I didn't know was safe. Some substances can be very toxic. If she has herpes, give Lysine - it's a proven winner. If I were trying to address the FELV visue, what I usually use it Interferon or ImmunoRegulin. Would *NOT* do Valtrex without more info, and my gut reaction is it doesn't sound like a possibilitly. Gloria On Jul 29, 2007, at 1:42 AM, Quentin Sonnier wrote: I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier __ __Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: Candlelighting ceremony?
I missed something...is there going to be a ceremony for our beloveds who have left us? Please advise? Thanks! Laurie -
Plz add Felicity to the candlelight service
We received 4 FELV kitties from a lady in Oklahoma back in 2005. They were all about 8-9 years old at that time. One died shortly after, a very fat sweet kitty but think the move upset her and she stopped eating. Long story. Felicity died 2 days ago - the morning of July 27. She had been going downhill and was anemic. She was a shy kitty, about 10-11 years old. She was not easy to medicate, was not much into human contact, but was a pretty white girl with black ears and tail. She leaves her pals Oliver and Chloe, both 10-11 years old, and her new friend B.B. (about 4 yrs old). Chloe and I sat with Felicity quite a while as she was gently fading away. She will be missed. Gloria
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
I take Valtex - it IS a med for humans who have herpes infections. Never heard of it used for animals. - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have never heard of Valtrex. A faint positive at 4months could indicate that she has been exposed and will fight off the virus. Your situation is very hopeful for that to happen. In the meantime I would boost her immune system with vitamin C and lysine. Others on the list can give you more ideas. tonya Quentin Sonnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: Plz add Felicity to the candlelight service
Gloria, I'm sorry to read about Felicity. But I must say you are doing very well with your positive cats that they are living such long lives. take care, tonya Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We received 4 FELV kitties from a lady in Oklahoma back in 2005. They were all about 8-9 years old at that time. One died shortly after, a very fat sweet kitty but think the move upset her and she stopped eating. Long story. Felicity died 2 days ago - the morning of July 27. She had been going downhill and was anemic. She was a shy kitty, about 10-11 years old. She was not easy to medicate, was not much into human contact, but was a pretty white girl with black ears and tail. She leaves her pals Oliver and Chloe, both 10-11 years old, and her new friend B.B. (about 4 yrs old). Chloe and I sat with Felicity quite a while as she was gently fading away. She will be missed. Gloria
Re: Plz add Felicity to the candlelight service
Gloria, I am sorry that sweet Felicity has passed. She was very lucky to have you. And what a wonderfully long life for an FeLV+ furbaby! Bless you for taking those four in and loving and caring for them. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 8:59:52 AM Subject: Plz add Felicity to the candlelight service We received 4 FELV kitties from a lady in Oklahoma back in 2005. They were all about 8-9 years old at that time. One died shortly after, a very fat sweet kitty but think the move upset her and she stopped eating. Long story. Felicity died 2 days ago - the morning of July 27. She had been going downhill and was anemic. She was a shy kitty, about 10-11 years old. She was not easy to medicate, was not much into human contact, but was a pretty white girl with black ears and tail. She leaves her pals Oliver and Chloe, both 10-11 years old, and her new friend B.B. (about 4 yrs old). Chloe and I sat with Felicity quite a while as she was gently fading away. She will be missed. Gloria Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
Hi Quentin, Welcome to the group. Bad idea on the Valtrex. Don't give your kitty any medication that your vet has not recommended. I have never heard of Valtrex being used on cats. Asparin and Ibuprofen are also no-no's, FYI. I have a cat that was diagnosed with feline herpes and had a bad corneal ulcer that we could not get rid of with the meds the vet gave us, including antivirals. She only had one eye to begin with and we almost lost the other one! We finally started giving her 500 mg 2x per day of lysine with no additives (especially propynol glycol, which can cause blood issues) into her wet food and the ulcer went away! It was wonderful! So I definitely recommend lysine for any kitties with viruses. Your kitty has about a 40% chance to fight off this virus and seroconvert. Give her about 3 months before you retest her again with an IFA test. Which test did the vet do on her? Elisa or IFA? Elisa can give a false positive and is what most vets use in-house. You might ask your vet about this. Also, feeding her a high quality diet with supplements like lysine, and keeping her environment stress-free and the two most important factors in helping kitty to seroconvert and keeping the virus at bay if she doesn't. Even if your kitty does not seroconvert, there are some kitties who live long lives, especially if these two factors are taken care of. There is a kitty at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary that is FeLV+ and 22 yrs. old! :) Wendy Dallas, TX "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Quentin Sonnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:42:17 AM Subject: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
Try adding Just Born with colostrum or any colostrum supplement, Transfer Factor for Felines, a raw diet (you can buy it pre-made and frozen) with lots of chopped finely veggies and, most importantly, an alternative/holistic vet. The minute I found out Dixie tested positive (OK, after I stopped panicking and decided she was a keeper) I was on the phone with an alternative vet getting ideas and treatment. Dixie sees Dr. Betty Boswell about once a month and is doing wonderfully. I don't think she really needs to see her that often but it makes me feel better. Dr. Susan Maier (www.horizonvetserv.com) has really helped too. Dixie has her wonderful regular vets, Dr. Koehler and Dr. Bishop at Middletown Animal Hospital, but the alternative vets add a different prospective. Luckily the regular vets are very open. Some are not. The long and short of it is that Dixie tested positive over two years ago. The only sign she has had was stomatitis. A combination of PetzLife Brush Away, really good diet and Interferon has made even that symptom go awaymuch to the amazement of all the vets named. Good luck. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 7:59 AM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have never heard of Valtrex. A faint positive at 4months could indicate that she has been exposed and will fight off the virus. Your situation is very hopeful for that to happen. In the meantime I would boost her immune system with vitamin C and lysine. Others on the list can give you more ideas. tonya Quentin Sonnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: Plz add Felicity to the candlelight service
I am so sorry. Blessings to you and to Felicity's friends. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Gloria Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 8:59 AM Subject: Plz add Felicity to the candlelight service We received 4 FELV kitties from a lady in Oklahoma back in 2005. They were all about 8-9 years old at that time. One died shortly after, a very fat sweet kitty but think the move upset her and she stopped eating. Long story. Felicity died 2 days ago - the morning of July 27. She had been going downhill and was anemic. She was a shy kitty, about 10-11 years old. She was not easy to medicate, was not much into human contact, but was a pretty white girl with black ears and tail. She leaves her pals Oliver and Chloe, both 10-11 years old, and her new friend B.B. (about 4 yrs old). Chloe and I sat with Felicity quite a while as she was gently fading away. She will be missed. Gloria
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
Hi Quentin, It sounds like you are just about where I am in being informed about how to treat a FeLV+ kitten. I came to this group to learn all I could from the people here, who that have been here, for a while and are experienced in caring for their Feline Leukemia Positive Kitties. I have read every post for a month and have never seen anyone mention Valtrex. Where did you see where Valtrex might be helpful in the treatment of FeLV? My five month old kitten was one of six kittens who contracted FeLV through her mother. Her mother tested positive, as did a couple of her siblings. I do not know if all siblings tested positive, but I did read if the mother is positive 100% of the kittens will test positive. My kitten had been bounced around to seven different homes before she came to me. I am counting the shelter she came from, three foster homes, then to me , then two more foster homes, then back to me. She is with me now. We are getting a routine... Her situation is not perfect , because she has to be seperated from my other cats and spends a lot of time alone. I try to give her a couple hours each day of love and time with me. I do let her in the yard to climb trees and follow me around while I weed and work in my flowers. Then it is back to a small area in my basement where she is now free outside of her large dog kennel and has her food, water,toys...She is a very loving ,sweet, social and energetic little girl and hates being alone. I'm telling you this , because it is not perfect, but probably less stressfull than being unsure of her environment and not having any security.She does feel at home now... If you have only your one little girl kitty, she should have no stress in her life and obviously all your love. I'm still trying to understand the difference between faint positives and strong positives...From what I have been reading, a faint, could mean either, she was just exposed or she is early into her disease? I have a vet that simply told me, a positive is a positive. She would not tell me if my little girl was faint or strong, but it looked quite clear to me ,so it was probaly a strong pos. My vet does try to be gentle with me. When it was realized my kitten was infected through her mother, my vet did give me hope by saying, often when the virus comes through the queen, the kittens have a good chance of throwing it. Then I hear too if it is an exposure, they have a good chance of throwing it. I give my kitten 500mg of Lysine a day and a multi-vitamin and a good diet. I really appreciated Wendy's advice to you and for now I'd would go with what she is telling you. There are so many good ideas here and it is great to have these people with all their accumulated information and experience to advise you. If I were a vet, I would try to learn from these guys. Sadly, most vets are not as informed as we all might hope...That is why we are here.. .Again, where did you come up with the Valtrex idea? For all we know, you may have come across something important, that none of us have seen yet? However, it is probably best to go with the medications and supplements proven effective and safe over time... I'm glad you found this group. You will really enjoy and learn from these guys. Glenda --- Quentin Sonnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a sweet little black with white tip > girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and > wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint > positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on > treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it > would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of > valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly > appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and > VERY energetic. > Quentin Sonnier > > > > Ready > for the edge of your seat? > Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. > http://tv.yahoo.com/ > > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222
Re: Plz add Felicity to the candlelight service
Gloria, I'm very sorry to hear of your loss. I can tell Felicity had a good life with you. Bless your heart! May, when it is our time to go, we are as lucky as Felicity was to be surrounded by so much love... Is B.B. a new addition to your family and is she/he, FeLV+. Are Chloe and Oliver doing well? It sounds like these original kitties came from the same home...was it from someone elderly or who has since passed away? Anyway, you are an angel, I might add... Glenda --- Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We received 4 FELV kitties from a lady in Oklahoma > back in 2005. > They were all about 8-9 years old at that time. One > died shortly > after, a very fat sweet kitty but think the move > upset her and she > stopped eating. Long story. > > Felicity died 2 days ago - the morning of July 27. > She had been > going downhill and was anemic. She was a shy kitty, > about 10-11 > years old. She was not easy to medicate, was not > much into human > contact, but was a pretty white girl with black ears > and tail. She > leaves her pals Oliver and Chloe, both 10-11 years > old, and her new > friend B.B. (about 4 yrs old). Chloe and I sat with > Felicity quite a > while as she was gently fading away. She will be > missed. > > Gloria > > Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
Wendy - I adopted just 3 days ago an almost five-year old cat who is FeLv positive. (Didn't know it until I took her for testing the next day.) She has no outward symptoms except partial loss of vision (and possibly some hearing loss). Other than that, she is lively, playful and eats like a small horse. Could you tell me how much lysine I should give her? I have bought some at the Whole Foods store but, of course, it only gives human dosage. She is very small--less than 5 lbs. Thank you. Pat - Original Message - From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hi Quentin, Welcome to the group. Bad idea on the Valtrex. Don't give your kitty any medication that your vet has not recommended. I have never heard of Valtrex being used on cats. Asparin and Ibuprofen are also no-no's, FYI. I have a cat that was diagnosed with feline herpes and had a bad corneal ulcer that we could not get rid of with the meds the vet gave us, including antivirals. She only had one eye to begin with and we almost lost the other one! We finally started giving her 500 mg 2x per day of lysine with no additives (especially propynol glycol, which can cause blood issues) into her wet food and the ulcer went away! It was wonderful! So I definitely recommend lysine for any kitties with viruses. Your kitty has about a 40% chance to fight off this virus and seroconvert. Give her about 3 months before you retest her again with an IFA test. Which test did the vet do on her? Elisa or IFA? Elisa can give a false positive and is what most vets use in-house. You might ask your vet about this. Also, feeding her a high quality diet with supplements like lysine, and keeping her environment stress-free and the two most important factors in helping kitty to seroconvert and keeping the virus at bay if she doesn't. Even if your kitty does not seroconvert, there are some kitties who live long lives, especially if these two factors are taken care of. There is a kitty at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary that is FeLV+ and 22 yrs. old! :) Wendy Dallas, TX "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Quentin Sonnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:42:17 AM Subject: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
I know people who take Lysine supplements in lieu of taking Valtrex, or another herpes medication, due to the expense of Valtrex and/or aversion to taking too much prescription medication. Lysine supplements work to keep the Herpes Simplex virus at bay (which is what oral Valtrex claims to do) and has been very successful for the people that I know that take it. I take Lysine myself for an extra immune booster. -Caroline From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatmentDate: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:16:25 -0700 (PDT)>Hi Quentin,>>Welcome to the group.>>Bad idea on the Valtrex. Don't give your kitty any medication that your vet has not recommended. I have never heard of Valtrex being used on cats. Asparin and Ibuprofen are also no-no's, FYI. I have a cat that was diagnosed with feline herpes and had a bad corneal ulcer that we could not get rid of with the meds the vet gave us, including antivirals. She only had one eye to begin with and we almost lost the other one! We finally started giving her 500 mg 2x per day of lysine with no additives (especially propynol glycol, which can cause blood issues) into her wet food and the ulcer went away! It was wonderful! So I definitely recommend lysine for any kitties with viruses.>>Your kitty has about a 40% chance to fight off this virus and seroconvert. Give her about 3 months before you retest her again with an IFA test. Which test did the vet do on her? Elisa or IFA? Elisa can give a false positive and is what most vets use in-house. You might ask your vet about this.>>Also, feeding her a high quality diet with supplements like lysine, and keeping her environment stress-free and the two most important factors in helping kitty to seroconvert and keeping the virus at bay if she doesn't. Even if your kitty does not seroconvert, there are some kitties who live long lives, especially if these two factors are taken care of. There is a kitty at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary that is FeLV+ and 22 yrs. old!>>:)>Wendy>Dallas, TX>>"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~>>>- Original Message >From: Quentin Sonnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:42:17 AM>Subject: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment>>>I have a sweet little black with white tip>girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic.>Quentin SonnierReady for the edge of your seat?>Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.>http://tv.yahoo.com/>Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing.>http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php> PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail.
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
I meant to say "are the two most important factors"...lol. sorry. Also, what I mean by high quality diet is a high protein, no grains if you can. Nothing you can buy at Walmart will qualify for this. Cats are obligate carnivores and do not process grains at all. http://www.homevet.com/petcare/feedingyourcat.html Before I found this group, I was feeding Science Diet to my furbabies. I did not know their little bodies don't process grains. Now I feed Innova Evo, a food I buy usually online, because it's cheaper. I can find it at about 3 or 4 places in Dallas. Can't get it at Petsmart, etc. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 10:16:25 AM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hi Quentin, Welcome to the group. Bad idea on the Valtrex. Don't give your kitty any medication that your vet has not recommended. I have never heard of Valtrex being used on cats. Asparin and Ibuprofen are also no-no's, FYI. I have a cat that was diagnosed with feline herpes and had a bad corneal ulcer that we could not get rid of with the meds the vet gave us, including antivirals. She only had one eye to begin with and we almost lost the other one! We finally started giving her 500 mg 2x per day of lysine with no additives (especially propynol glycol, which can cause blood issues) into her wet food and the ulcer went away! It was wonderful! So I definitely recommend lysine for any kitties with viruses. Your kitty has about a 40% chance to fight off this virus and seroconvert. Give her about 3 months before you retest her again with an IFA test. Which test did the vet do on her? Elisa or IFA? Elisa can give a false positive and is what most vets use in-house. You might ask your vet about this. Also, feeding her a high quality diet with supplements like lysine, and keeping her environment stress-free and the two most important factors in helping kitty to seroconvert and keeping the virus at bay if she doesn't. Even if your kitty does not seroconvert, there are some kitties who live long lives, especially if these two factors are taken care of. There is a kitty at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary that is FeLV+ and 22 yrs. old! :) Wendy Dallas, TX "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Quentin Sonnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:42:17 AM Subject: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
Valtex has been a wonder drug for me. After many years of flares on my waistline and above (leaving scars), I have not had even ONE outbreak since the Valtrex. It costs just $25 per month--which to me is a great bargain. Don't believe I would try it on any animal without specific OK from a medical professional. - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:48 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I know people who take Lysine supplements in lieu of taking Valtrex, or another herpes medication, due to the expense of Valtrex and/or aversion to taking too much prescription medication. Lysine supplements work to keep the Herpes Simplex virus at bay (which is what oral Valtrex claims to do) and has been very successful for the people that I know that take it. I take Lysine myself for an extra immune booster. -Caroline From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:16:25 -0700 (PDT) >Hi Quentin, > >Welcome to the group. > >Bad idea on the Valtrex. Don't give your kitty any medication that your vet has not recommended. I have never heard of Valtrex being used on cats. Asparin and Ibuprofen are also no-no's, FYI. I have a cat that was diagnosed with feline herpes and had a bad corneal ulcer that we could not get rid of with the meds the vet gave us, including antivirals. She only had one eye to begin with and we almost lost the other one! We finally started giving her 500 mg 2x per day of lysine with no additives (especially propynol glycol, which can cause blood issues) into her wet food and the ulcer went away! It was wonderful! So I definitely recommend lysine for any kitties with viruses. > >Your kitty has about a 40% chance to fight off this virus and seroconvert. Give her about 3 months before you retest her again with an IFA test. Which test did the vet do on her? Elisa or IFA? Elisa can give a false positive and is what most vets use in-house. You might ask your vet about this. > >Also, feeding her a high quality diet with supplements like lysine, and keeping her environment stress-free and the two most important factors in helping kitty to seroconvert and keeping the virus at bay if she doesn't. Even if your kitty does not seroconvert, there are some kitties who live long lives, especially if these two factors are taken care of. There is a kitty at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary that is FeLV+ and 22 yrs. old! > >:) >Wendy >Dallas, TX > >"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ > > >- Original Message >From: Quentin Sonnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:42:17 AM >Subject: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment > > >I have a sweet little black with white tip >girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. >Quentin Sonnier > > > >Ready for the edge of your seat? >Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. >http://tv.yahoo.com/ > > > > >Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. >http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php > -- PC Magazine's 2007 editors' choice for best web mail-award-winning Windows Live Hotmail.
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
Hey Pat, When we started Smookie on the lysine (no additives; can cause problems), we gave her 500 mg. capsules that we opened and mixed in with her wet food twice a day. So she was getting 1000 mg per day. Lysine is an amino acid, and it interferes with the virus's ability to replicate. Since your furbaby is only 5 lbs., you might consider sticking with 250 mg. 2x per day. Also, even though your kitty is almost 5 years old, she still can throw the virus, depending on when she was exposed. Some even throw the virus a long time after exposure, but that's more rare. Since your kitty has the vision/hearing issues, have you done blood work on her? Hypertension can cause overeating and vision problems. You might have to ask specifically for a high blood pressure test. Does the vet know why she has loss of vision? :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Pat Kachur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:44:15 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Wendy - I adopted just 3 days ago an almost five-year old cat who is FeLv positive. (Didn't know it until I took her for testing the next day.) She has no outward symptoms except partial loss of vision (and possibly some hearing loss). Other than that, she is lively, playful and eats like a small horse. Could you tell me how much lysine I should give her? I have bought some at the Whole Foods store but, of course, it only gives human dosage. She is very small--less than 5 lbs. Thank you. Pat - Original Message - From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hi Quentin, Welcome to the group. Bad idea on the Valtrex. Don't give your kitty any medication that your vet has not recommended. I have never heard of Valtrex being used on cats. Asparin and Ibuprofen are also no-no's, FYI. I have a cat that was diagnosed with feline herpes and had a bad corneal ulcer that we could not get rid of with the meds the vet gave us, including antivirals. She only had one eye to begin with and we almost lost the other one! We finally started giving her 500 mg 2x per day of lysine with no additives (especially propynol glycol, which can cause blood issues) into her wet food and the ulcer went away! It was wonderful! So I definitely recommend lysine for any kitties with viruses. Your kitty has about a 40% chance to fight off this virus and seroconvert. Give her about 3 months before you retest her again with an IFA test. Which test did the vet do on her? Elisa or IFA? Elisa can give a false positive and is what most vets use in-house. You might ask your vet about this. Also, feeding her a high quality diet with supplements like lysine, and keeping her environment stress-free and the two most important factors in helping kitty to seroconvert and keeping the virus at bay if she doesn't. Even if your kitty does not seroconvert, there are some kitties who live long lives, especially if these two factors are taken care of. There is a kitty at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary that is FeLV+ and 22 yrs. old! :) Wendy Dallas, TX "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Quentin Sonnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:42:17 AM Subject: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
We "think" Mandy has only had the virus for about 5 months--but only because the vision problem began at that time so it is really just a guess. The vet said that the virus may attack most any part of the cat and he has seen other cases where it did attack the vision. Thanks for the advice re dosage of lysine. I am starting her on it today. Also purchased some PetPromise food at Whole Foods this morning. I see there is advice in one of these threads from a veterinarian regarding cats getting enough protein and enough water in their diet--the list mentioned two others Whole Foods sells so I am going to get some of those, too. So far, she'll wolf down just about anything. I did not see my "regular" vet who is also my friend as he is on vacation until Thursday. When he returns, I am going to discuss Mandy with him--as I think he is the world's best!! (Possibly a little biased.) Pat - Original Message - From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hey Pat, When we started Smookie on the lysine (no additives; can cause problems), we gave her 500 mg. capsules that we opened and mixed in with her wet food twice a day. So she was getting 1000 mg per day. Lysine is an amino acid, and it interferes with the virus's ability to replicate. Since your furbaby is only 5 lbs., you might consider sticking with 250 mg. 2x per day. Also, even though your kitty is almost 5 years old, she still can throw the virus, depending on when she was exposed. Some even throw the virus a long time after exposure, but that's more rare. Since your kitty has the vision/hearing issues, have you done blood work on her? Hypertension can cause overeating and vision problems. You might have to ask specifically for a high blood pressure test. Does the vet know why she has loss of vision? :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Pat Kachur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:44:15 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Wendy - I adopted just 3 days ago an almost five-year old cat who is FeLv positive. (Didn't know it until I took her for testing the next day.) She has no outward symptoms except partial loss of vision (and possibly some hearing loss). Other than that, she is lively, playful and eats like a small horse. Could you tell me how much lysine I should give her? I have bought some at the Whole Foods store but, of course, it only gives human dosage. She is very small--less than 5 lbs. Thank you. Pat - Original Message - From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hi Quentin, Welcome to the group. Bad idea on the Valtrex. Don't give your kitty any medication that your vet has not recommended. I have never heard of Valtrex being used on cats. Asparin and Ibuprofen are also no-no's, FYI. I have a cat that was diagnosed with feline herpes and had a bad corneal ulcer that we could not get rid of with the meds the vet gave us, including antivirals. She only had one eye to begin with and we almost lost the other one! We finally started giving her 500 mg 2x per day of lysine with no additives (especially propynol glycol, which can cause blood issues) into her wet food and the ulcer went away! It was wonderful! So I definitely recommend lysine for any kitties with viruses. Your kitty has about a 40% chance to fight off this virus and seroconvert. Give her about 3 months before you retest her again with an IFA test. Which test did the vet do on her? Elisa or IFA? Elisa can give a false positive and is what most vets use in-house. You might ask your vet about this. Also, feeding her a high quality diet with supplements like lysine, and keeping her environment stress-free and the two most important factors in helping kitty to seroconvert and keeping the virus at bay if she doesn't. Even if your kitty does not seroconvert, there are some kitties who live long lives, especially if these two factors are taken care of. There is a kitty at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary that is FeLV+ and 22 yrs. old! :) Wendy Dallas, TX "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Quentin Sonnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:42:17 AM Subject: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I'
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To Pat and Mandy
Pat, It's possible Mandy's vision will return to normal when you figure out what's causing the vision loss. Don't give up hope for that. I have not seen any vision loss directly related to FeLV here in the past year and a half, nor have I read anything about that. I have seen FeLV linked to Uveitis. It's very important that it be diagnosed so that it can be treated, if this is the case. Here is a good link to it: http://www.animaleyecare.net/diseases/uveitis.htm We think Uveitis is what caused Smookie to lose her eye before we adopted her. Either that or conjuncitivis: http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=1&cat=1344&articleid=250 I'm really concerned that the vet just chalked up the vision issue to FeLV. FeLV is a virus that surpresses the immune system. It allows other diseases and conditions to develop. Those must be treated. Cat's don't die from FeLV. They die from the diseases that develop from a weakened immune system caused by FeLV. That's why I said bloodwork might be good. Whatever you do, pursue this eye issue and get it cleared up or at least get it diagnosed. It is not directly caused by the FeLV. So many of us here have trusted our vet's opinion/diagnosis only to our cat's detriment. Yes, we think vet's are great, but doing your own research will go a long way in making sure your furbaby stays healthy. I have personally experienced my own vet being wrong at least three times in the past few years. At least one of those times would have cost my kitty his life had I not persisted and kept asking questions. There are others here who can tell you those same stories. It's great that you have such a good relationship with your vet. It's hard to find a good vet, or at least one that will listen to the opinions of their customers. We have found that so many vets are not up-to-date on FeLV, and many still recommend pts at first diagnosis. It's good your vet did not do that. Let me know what your vet says when you go see him again. I am curious to see what he says about the vision issue. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Pat Kachur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:14:59 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment We "think" Mandy has only had the virus for about 5 months--but only because the vision problem began at that time so it is really just a guess. The vet said that the virus may attack most any part of the cat and he has seen other cases where it did attack the vision. Thanks for the advice re dosage of lysine. I am starting her on it today. Also purchased some PetPromise food at Whole Foods this morning. I see there is advice in one of these threads from a veterinarian regarding cats getting enough protein and enough water in their diet--the list mentioned two others Whole Foods sells so I am going to get some of those, too. So far, she'll wolf down just about anything. I did not see my "regular" vet who is also my friend as he is on vacation until Thursday. When he returns, I am going to discuss Mandy with him--as I think he is the world's best!! (Possibly a little biased.) Pat - Original Message - From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hey Pat, When we started Smookie on the lysine (no additives; can cause problems), we gave her 500 mg. capsules that we opened and mixed in with her wet food twice a day. So she was getting 1000 mg per day. Lysine is an amino acid, and it interferes with the virus's ability to replicate. Since your furbaby is only 5 lbs., you might consider sticking with 250 mg. 2x per day. Also, even though your kitty is almost 5 years old, she still can throw the virus, depending on when she was exposed. Some even throw the virus a long time after exposure, but that's more rare. Since your kitty has the vision/hearing issues, have you done blood work on her? Hypertension can cause overeating and vision problems. You might have to ask specifically for a high blood pressure test. Does the vet know why she has loss of vision? :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Pat Kachur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:44:15 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Wendy - I adopted just 3 days ago an almost five-year old cat who is FeLv positive. (Didn't know it until I took her for testing the next day.) She has no outward symptoms except partial loss of vision (and possibly some hearing loss). Other
Re: To Pat and Mandy
Thank you Wendy. Mandy's eyes do not look anything like the ones in the Uveitis pictures. The pupils just do not dilate no matter what the lighting. The pupils are always just a vertical slit--as if subjected to intense light. The vet I saw darkened the room and used the "pencil" light but nothing changes. I am going to visit my regular vet at the end of this week when he is back in town. Pat - Original Message - From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: To Pat and Mandy Pat, It's possible Mandy's vision will return to normal when you figure out what's causing the vision loss. Don't give up hope for that. I have not seen any vision loss directly related to FeLV here in the past year and a half, nor have I read anything about that. I have seen FeLV linked to Uveitis. It's very important that it be diagnosed so that it can be treated, if this is the case. Here is a good link to it: http://www.animaleyecare.net/diseases/uveitis.htm We think Uveitis is what caused Smookie to lose her eye before we adopted her. Either that or conjuncitivis: http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=1&cat=1344&articleid=250 I'm really concerned that the vet just chalked up the vision issue to FeLV. FeLV is a virus that surpresses the immune system. It allows other diseases and conditions to develop. Those must be treated. Cat's don't die from FeLV. They die from the diseases that develop from a weakened immune system caused by FeLV. That's why I said bloodwork might be good. Whatever you do, pursue this eye issue and get it cleared up or at least get it diagnosed. It is not directly caused by the FeLV. So many of us here have trusted our vet's opinion/diagnosis only to our cat's detriment. Yes, we think vet's are great, but doing your own research will go a long way in making sure your furbaby stays healthy. I have personally experienced my own vet being wrong at least three times in the past few years. At least one of those times would have cost my kitty his life had I not persisted and kept asking questions. There are others here who can tell you those same stories. It's great that you have such a good relationship with your vet. It's hard to find a good vet, or at least one that will listen to the opinions of their customers. We have found that so many vets are not up-to-date on FeLV, and many still recommend pts at first diagnosis. It's good your vet did not do that. Let me know what your vet says when you go see him again. I am curious to see what he says about the vision issue. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Pat Kachur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:14:59 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment We "think" Mandy has only had the virus for about 5 months--but only because the vision problem began at that time so it is really just a guess. The vet said that the virus may attack most any part of the cat and he has seen other cases where it did attack the vision. Thanks for the advice re dosage of lysine. I am starting her on it today. Also purchased some PetPromise food at Whole Foods this morning. I see there is advice in one of these threads from a veterinarian regarding cats getting enough protein and enough water in their diet--the list mentioned two others Whole Foods sells so I am going to get some of those, too. So far, she'll wolf down just about anything. I did not see my "regular" vet who is also my friend as he is on vacation until Thursday. When he returns, I am going to discuss Mandy with him--as I think he is the world's best!! (Possibly a little biased.) Pat - Original Message - From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hey Pat, When we started Smookie on the lysine (no additives; can cause problems), we gave her 500 mg. capsules that we opened and mixed in with her wet food twice a day. So she was getting 1000 mg per day. Lysine is an amino acid, and it interferes with the virus's ability to replicate. Since your furbaby is only 5 lbs., you might consider sticking with 250 mg. 2x per day. Also, even though your kitty is almost 5 years old, she still can throw the virus, depending on when she was exposed. Some even throw the virus a long time after exposure, but that's more rare. Since your kitty has the vision/hearing issues, have you done blood work on her? Hypertension can cause overeating and vision problems. You might have to ask specifically for a high blood pressure test. Does the vet know why she has loss of vision? :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
Science Diet is nothing more than expensive junk food Susan J. DuBose >^..^< www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net "As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws." Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I meant to say "are the two most important factors"...lol. sorry. Also, what I mean by high quality diet is a high protein, no grains if you can. Nothing you can buy at Walmart will qualify for this. Cats are obligate carnivores and do not process grains at all. http://www.homevet.com/petcare/feedingyourcat.html Before I found this group, I was feeding Science Diet to my furbabies. I did not know their little bodies don't process grains. Now I feed Innova Evo, a food I buy usually online, because it's cheaper. I can find it at about 3 or 4 places in Dallas. Can't get it at Petsmart, etc. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~
Re: Belinda, please add Miss Sue to the Candlelighting ceremony?
Marylyn, Susan, Wendy, Caroline, Diane R., Glenda and family and Tonya, Thank you all for your kind and comforting messages. I am missing my sweet girl so much. Marylyn, I loved the image of Miss Sue actually playing with the birds now. Caroline, my condolences go out to you on the loss of your sweet Monkee. I have not been able to keep up with posts recently, sorry to say, but wanted to read more about the ceremony you had for Monkee. He was truly loved, that much was plain to see just from the topic titles regarding Monkee. Will you take another cat for a friend? That is very much a nice thought about the quiet and peace that came out of Monkee's passing. Susan, the vet never suspected diabetes with Miss Sue and she never exhibited the classic symptoms of excessive thirst and/or peeing and/or weight loss so I think I can safely say that no, she was not diabetic. Thank you all so much, once again. Your support is so appreciated, as always, Anne and Sophie and the other fur covered friends in Michigan along with FeLV angels Jimi Too Cool, Simms, Buggsy and Nala * I am so sorry she had to leave. Remember that now she can play with the birds. Marylyn *** Hi Anne, I am sorry to hear about Miss Sue. Greasy coat, dandruff & obese sounds like she was diabetic? Was she diabetic? Susan J. DuBose Anne, I'm really sorry to hear about Miss Sue's passing. I hope you are doing ok. Prayers going out for comfort for you. :) Wendy ** Caroline Kaufmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Belinda, please add Miss Sue to the Candlelighting ceremony? I also wanted to express my sadness at your kitty's passing. Having just lost my beloved Monkee in the early morning hours of July 16, I can truly say that I feel your pain. And sadly, I had just told my mother that this list serve has been really quiet...literally, since Monkee's passing. That almost all of the topics discussed since he passed have been Off Topic. It made me oddly happy to think that Monkee's passing kind of kicked off a period of peacefulness for the members of this group. It just seemed like no one was really having any crises with their feleuk cats. And, although another member's non-feleuk cat- Keisha- passed just before Monkee on that Sunday, from what I could tell, no one else has lost a cat since Monkee and Keisha-- almost two weeks of quiet. I'm sure that sounds a little "out there," but I couldn't help but notice that in the wake of Monkee's death and it just really comforted me to think that no one else was having to go through what I've been going through these past almost two weeks. For me, I realize that by having only Monkee, he was my absolute world and my house has been too quiet and lonely since he's been gone. You have your other babies to focus on and to lean on, so take advantage of that. Best of luck to you and the remainder of your babies. ** Anne, I'm so sorry Miss Sue had to leave you. It sounds like she was a sweetheart. Gentle Bridge vibes to her. Diane R. ** Anne, I'm sorry your little girl, Miss Sue, is gone. She obviously knew she was loved. It sounds like you took very good care of her...It has to be very hard after having her for so long...Glenda and family *** I'm so sorry for your loss of Miss Sue. tonya
Re: Belinda, please add Miss Sue to the Candlelighting ceremony?
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