Re: Cat Fancy

2008-03-19 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Thanks Kelley,we are growing all the time.We have almost 200 volunteers which 
makes the kitties happy!! :)

Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Sherry!

I am soo happy for you.  Yall do such great work at Crash's...here's to the 
big donations and lots of volunteers you will hopefully get as a result of this 
publicity.

Yay!

Kelley

  On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey everyonecrashs Landing made it to the big time!!! Check out Mays issue 
of CatFancy and read about us!! It is good to have happy news for once. :)
  Sherry
  
  
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RE: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!

2008-03-19 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Tator, if this works I will join you in choking down a cheesecake (I
never *got* it -- why would you want CHEESE in a CAKE?? Cakes are for
chocolate and yummy cloyingly sweet icing!)
 
If this works, so much future heartache will be averted.  I suppose it's
too much to hope that it will come in time for most of the kitties on
this list, but here's hoping anyway!
 
Diane R.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!


Thank you for sending this!
http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/smi/0201e05fa8/01 
Yes, I will eat a whole Cheesecake if this does happen as promised!
Remember I can't stand the stuffLOL
This is totally awesome news to read about.
I'm excited
I have requested to be on their mailing list as well.
 
In a message dated 3/18/2008 7:35:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Just received this from www.10thlife.org
http://www.10thlife.org/  newsletter, dare we hope???


Pilot Study Will Help Determine If New Cobra-Venom Drug
Cures Feline Leukemia

For more than a year we've been waiting for the federal
government to approve a license application to use a new cobra-venom
based drug in a large placebo controlled double blind research study
that will scientifically determine if the new drug cures feline leukemia
(FeLV). The manufacturer has already received approval from the State of
Florida to proceed, but - if the drug cures the disease - sales would be
limited to Florida veterinarians and Florida cat owners. Federal
approval would allow sales anywhere.

  Because of the federal delay, Dr. Julie Levy of
the University of Florida College of Veterinary Medicine suggested we
conduct a smaller 18-30 cat, four month, placebo controlled double blind
pilot study using the Florida license. The pilot study will follow the
same procedures and be conducted in the same manner as a larger
follow-up study using 100+ FeLV positive cats. The larger study will be
conducted if the pilot study shows good results. Good results from the
pilot study could expedite federal approval for a larger study - which
Dr. Levy would supervise. The larger 100+ cat study will prove
conclusively that the drug cures, or does not cure, FeLV.

  The drug's manufacturer will supply the drug to us
for both studies (at no charge) and will supervise the pilot study (with
the results forwarded to Dr. Levy).

  No harm will come to the cats. The drug is safe
and there are no known side effects.

  For the last two weeks I've been looking for a
location to conduct the pilot study (we can't do it at the sanctuary).
Once we find a place, I can put a final budget together.

  We will need to raise money for the pilot study
and if we proceed to the bigger study, we'll have to raise money for
that, too. Donors to either study will receive a tax deduction. If the
drug does cure FeLV, 10th Life will receive a royalty on each sale of
the drug because (1) we are raising the necessary research funds (the
manufacturer's research budget is for human - not animal - trials), and
(2) we will be supplying the FeLV+ cats.

  We will probably need more FeLV+ cats. In a few
days I'll know if we need more FeLV+ cats and will ask you, then, if you
have, or know someone who has, FeLV+ cats that could participate in the
pilot study. Most FeLV+ cats are routinely put down by their owners...
this research is necessary because, if the drug cures FeLV, many lives
will be saved.

  In the meantime, please continue to support us
with a donation... I spend most of my time raising operating funds and
now that I'm spending a lot of time trying to get this study underway, I
am not out there raising operating funds. Please, we need every donation
to continue providing for our 1,200+ sanctuary cats and for these
potentially life saving studies. All donations are tax deductible.


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Re: Bartonella

2008-03-19 Thread wendy
Wow!  Thank you Belinda!  I am surprised that this is where Cat Scratch Fever 
comes from!  I had a friend who had that and she was VERY sick (hospitalized 
for at least a week; they kept misdiagnosing it).

:)
Wendy
 
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- Original Message 
From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:55:55 AM
Subject: Re: Bartonella

Just to make sure no one gets confused, Haemobartonella and 
Bartonella are two very different diseases.  I just don't want any new 
people to get confused about this:

http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2003PID=6699O=Generic

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Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!

2008-03-19 Thread wendy
Keep us posted Belinda if you hear anything else!  Wow!  Can you imagine that 
our site wouldn't even be needed anymore?!  Wouldn't that be something?!!!

:)
Wendy

 
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- Original Message 
From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:33:51 PM
Subject: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!

   Just received this from www.10thlife.org newsletter, dare we hope???

Pilot Study Will Help Determine If New Cobra-Venom Drug Cures Feline Leukemia
For more than a year we’ve been waiting for the federal government to approve a 
license application to use a new cobra-venom based drug in a large placebo 
controlled double blind research study that will scientifically determine if 
the new drug cures feline leukemia (FeLV). The manufacturer has already 
received approval from the State of Florida to proceed, but – if the drug cures 
the disease – sales would be limited to Florida veterinarians and Florida cat 
owners. Federal approval would allow sales anywhere.
  Because of the federal delay, Dr. Julie Levy of the University of Florida 
College of Veterinary Medicine suggested we conduct a smaller 18-30 cat, four 
month, placebo controlled double blind “pilot study” using the Florida license. 
The pilot study will follow the same procedures and be conducted in the same 
manner as a larger follow-up study using 100+ FeLV positive cats. The larger 
study will be conducted if the pilot study shows good results. Good results 
from the pilot study could expedite federal approval for a larger study – which 
Dr. Levy would supervise. The larger 100+ cat study will prove conclusively 
that the drug cures, or does not cure, FeLV.
  The drug’s manufacturer will supply the drug to us for both studies (at 
no charge) and will supervise the pilot study (with the results forwarded to 
Dr. Levy).
  No harm will come to the cats. The drug is safe and there are no known 
side effects.
  For the last two weeks I’ve been looking for a location to conduct the 
pilot study (we can’t do it at the sanctuary). Once we find a place, I can put 
a final budget together.
  We will need to raise money for the pilot study and if we proceed to the 
bigger study, we’ll have to raise money for that, too. Donors to either study 
will receive a tax deduction. If the drug does cure FeLV, 10th Life will 
receive a royalty on each sale of the drug because (1) we are raising the 
necessary research funds (the manufacturer’s research budget is for human - not 
animal – trials), and (2) we will be supplying the FeLV+ cats.
  We will probably need more FeLV+ cats. In a few days I’ll know if we need 
more FeLV+ cats and will ask you, then, if you have, or know someone who has, 
FeLV+ cats that could participate in the pilot study. Most FeLV+ cats are 
routinely put down by their owners... this research is necessary because, if 
the drug cures FeLV, many lives will be saved.
  In the meantime, please continue to support us with a donation... I spend 
most of my time raising operating funds and now that I’m spending a lot of time 
trying to get this study underway, I am not out there raising operating funds. 
Please, we need every donation to continue providing for our 1,200+ sanctuary 
cats and for these potentially life saving studies. All donations are tax 
deductible.


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Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!

2008-03-19 Thread Kelley Saveika
I would eat cheesecake even if it weren't true...sure hope it is thojust
remember than 18-30 cats is a really small sample size...

On 3/18/08, Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just received this from *www.10thlife.org *newsletter, dare we hope???*
 *

 *Pilot Study Will Help Determine If New Cobra-Venom Drug Cures Feline
 Leukemia*

 For more than a year we've been waiting for the federal government to
 approve a license application to use a new cobra-venom based drug in a large
 placebo controlled double blind research study that will scientifically
 determine if the new drug cures feline leukemia (FeLV). The manufacturer has
 already received approval from the State of Florida to proceed, but – if the
 drug cures the disease – sales would be limited to Florida veterinarians and
 Florida cat owners. Federal approval would allow sales anywhere.

   Because of the federal delay, Dr. Julie Levy of the University of
 Florida College of Veterinary Medicine suggested we conduct a smaller 18-30
 cat, four month, placebo controlled double blind pilot study using the
 Florida license. The pilot study will follow the same procedures and be
 conducted in the same manner as a larger follow-up study using 100+ FeLV
 positive cats. The larger study will be conducted if the pilot study shows
 good results. Good results from the pilot study could expedite federal
 approval for a larger study – which Dr. Levy would supervise. The larger
 100+ cat study will prove conclusively that the drug cures, or does not
 cure, FeLV.

   The drug's manufacturer will supply the drug to us for both studies
 (at no charge) and will supervise the pilot study (with the results
 forwarded to Dr. Levy).

   No harm will come to the cats. The drug is safe and there are no
 known side effects.

   For the last two weeks I've been looking for a location to conduct
 the pilot study (we can't do it at the sanctuary). Once we find a place, I
 can put a final budget together.

   We will need to raise money for the pilot study and if we proceed to
 the bigger study, we'll have to raise money for that, too. Donors to either
 study will receive a tax deduction. If the drug does cure FeLV, *10th Life
 *will receive a royalty on each sale of the drug because (1) we are
 raising the necessary research funds (the manufacturer's research budget is
 for human - not animal – trials), and (2) we will be supplying the FeLV+
 cats.

   We will probably need more FeLV+ cats. In a few days I'll know if we
 need more FeLV+ cats and will ask you, then, if you have, or know someone
 who has, FeLV+ cats that could participate in the pilot study. Most FeLV+
 cats are routinely put down by their owners... this research is necessary
 because, if the drug cures FeLV, many lives will be saved.
   In the meantime, please continue to support us with a donation... I
 spend most of my time raising operating funds and now that I'm spending a
 lot of time trying to get this study underway, I am not out there raising
 operating funds. Please, we need every donation to continue providing for
 our 1,200+ sanctuary cats and for these potentially life saving studies. All
 donations are tax deductible.


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RE: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!

2008-03-19 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Yes, it's small, but hopefully enough to at least show a trend one way
or the other.  And if this small a sample means it can get under way
quickly, I think it's worth a shot.  The results might nudge interest in
a larger study at the very least.
 
LOL, I can see a huge black market in cobra-venom drugs for cat owners
in the rest of the company.  That's OK, Florida is really good at
black-market stuff. ;-)
 
Diane R.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:55 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!


I would eat cheesecake even if it weren't true...sure hope it is
thojust remember than 18-30 cats is a really small sample size...


On 3/18/08, Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

   Just received this from www.10thlife.org
http://www.10thlife.org/  newsletter, dare we hope???


Pilot Study Will Help Determine If New Cobra-Venom Drug
Cures Feline Leukemia

For more than a year we've been waiting for the federal
government to approve a license application to use a new cobra-venom
based drug in a large placebo controlled double blind research study
that will scientifically determine if the new drug cures feline leukemia
(FeLV). The manufacturer has already received approval from the State of
Florida to proceed, but - if the drug cures the disease - sales would be
limited to Florida veterinarians and Florida cat owners. Federal
approval would allow sales anywhere.

  Because of the federal delay, Dr. Julie Levy of
the University of Florida College of Veterinary Medicine suggested we
conduct a smaller 18-30 cat, four month, placebo controlled double blind
pilot study using the Florida license. The pilot study will follow the
same procedures and be conducted in the same manner as a larger
follow-up study using 100+ FeLV positive cats. The larger study will be
conducted if the pilot study shows good results. Good results from the
pilot study could expedite federal approval for a larger study - which
Dr. Levy would supervise. The larger 100+ cat study will prove
conclusively that the drug cures, or does not cure, FeLV.

  The drug's manufacturer will supply the drug to us
for both studies (at no charge) and will supervise the pilot study (with
the results forwarded to Dr. Levy).

  No harm will come to the cats. The drug is safe
and there are no known side effects.

  For the last two weeks I've been looking for a
location to conduct the pilot study (we can't do it at the sanctuary).
Once we find a place, I can put a final budget together.

  We will need to raise money for the pilot study
and if we proceed to the bigger study, we'll have to raise money for
that, too. Donors to either study will receive a tax deduction. If the
drug does cure FeLV, 10th Life will receive a royalty on each sale of
the drug because (1) we are raising the necessary research funds (the
manufacturer's research budget is for human - not animal - trials), and
(2) we will be supplying the FeLV+ cats.

  We will probably need more FeLV+ cats. In a few
days I'll know if we need more FeLV+ cats and will ask you, then, if you
have, or know someone who has, FeLV+ cats that could participate in the
pilot study. Most FeLV+ cats are routinely put down by their owners...
this research is necessary because, if the drug cures FeLV, many lives
will be saved.

  In the meantime, please continue to support us
with a donation... I spend most of my time raising operating funds and
now that I'm spending a lot of time trying to get this study underway, I
am not out there raising operating funds. Please, we need every donation
to continue providing for our 1,200+ sanctuary cats and for these
potentially life saving studies. All donations are tax deductible.


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Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!

2008-03-19 Thread Sue Koren
This may sound really stupid but what makes them think that Cobra-Venom will 
cure Feline Leukemia?  Hurrah if it does!
Sue
 Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

=
   Just received this from *www.10thlife.org *newsletter, dare we hope???*
*

 *Pilot Study Will Help Determine If New Cobra-Venom Drug Cures Feline 
 Leukemia*

 For more than a year we’ve been waiting for the federal government to 
 approve a license application to use a new cobra-venom based drug in a 
 large placebo controlled double blind research study that will 
 scientifically determine if the new drug cures feline leukemia (FeLV). 
 The manufacturer has already received approval from the State of 
 Florida to proceed, but – if the drug cures the disease – sales would 
 be limited to Florida veterinarians and Florida cat owners. Federal 
 approval would allow sales anywhere.

   Because of the federal delay, Dr. Julie Levy of the University 
 of Florida College of Veterinary Medicine suggested we conduct a 
 smaller 18-30 cat, four month, placebo controlled double blind “pilot 
 study” using the Florida license. The pilot study will follow the same 
 procedures and be conducted in the same manner as a larger follow-up 
 study using 100+ FeLV positive cats. The larger study will be 
 conducted if the pilot study shows good results. Good results from the 
 pilot study could expedite federal approval for a larger study – which 
 Dr. Levy would supervise. The larger 100+ cat study will prove 
 conclusively that the drug cures, or does not cure, FeLV.

   The drug’s manufacturer will supply the drug to us for both 
 studies (at no charge) and will supervise the pilot study (with the 
 results forwarded to Dr. Levy).

   No harm will come to the cats. The drug is safe and there are no 
 known side effects.

   For the last two weeks I’ve been looking for a location to 
 conduct the pilot study (we can’t do it at the sanctuary). Once we 
 find a place, I can put a final budget together.

   We will need to raise money for the pilot study and if we 
 proceed to the bigger study, we’ll have to raise money for that, too. 
 Donors to either study will receive a tax deduction. If the drug does 
 cure FeLV, /10th Life /will receive a royalty on each sale of the drug 
 because (1) we are raising the necessary research funds (the 
 manufacturer’s research budget is for human - not animal – trials), 
 and (2) we will be supplying the FeLV+ cats.

   We will probably need more FeLV+ cats. In a few days I’ll know 
 if we need more FeLV+ cats and will ask you, then, if you have, or 
 know someone who has, FeLV+ cats that could participate in the pilot 
 study. Most FeLV+ cats are routinely put down by their owners... this 
 research is necessary because, if the drug cures FeLV, many lives will 
 be saved.

   In the meantime, please continue to support us with a 
 donation... I spend most of my time raising operating funds and now 
 that I’m spending a lot of time trying to get this study underway, I 
 am not out there raising operating funds. Please, we need every 
 donation to continue providing for our 1,200+ sanctuary cats and for 
 these potentially life saving studies. All donations are tax deductible.

-- 

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Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!

2008-03-19 Thread MaryChristine
here, snakey snakey snakey

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Yes, it's small, but hopefully enough to at least show a trend one way or
 the other.  And if this small a sample means it can get under way quickly, I
 think it's worth a shot.  The results might nudge interest in a larger study
 at the very least.

 LOL, I can see a huge black market in cobra-venom drugs for cat owners in
 the rest of the company.  That's OK, Florida is really good at black-market
 stuff. ;-)

 Diane R.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Kelley Saveika
 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:55 AM
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Subject:* Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!

 I would eat cheesecake even if it weren't true...sure hope it is
 thojust remember than 18-30 cats is a really small sample size...

 On 3/18/08, Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Just received this from *www.10thlife.org *newsletter, dare we
  hope???*
  *
 
  *Pilot Study Will Help Determine If New Cobra-Venom Drug Cures Feline
  Leukemia*
 
  For more than a year we've been waiting for the federal government to
  approve a license application to use a new cobra-venom based drug in a large
  placebo controlled double blind research study that will scientifically
  determine if the new drug cures feline leukemia (FeLV). The manufacturer has
  already received approval from the State of Florida to proceed, but – if the
  drug cures the disease – sales would be limited to Florida veterinarians and
  Florida cat owners. Federal approval would allow sales anywhere.
 
Because of the federal delay, Dr. Julie Levy of the University of
  Florida College of Veterinary Medicine suggested we conduct a smaller 18-30
  cat, four month, placebo controlled double blind pilot study using the
  Florida license. The pilot study will follow the same procedures and be
  conducted in the same manner as a larger follow-up study using 100+ FeLV
  positive cats. The larger study will be conducted if the pilot study shows
  good results. Good results from the pilot study could expedite federal
  approval for a larger study – which Dr. Levy would supervise. The larger
  100+ cat study will prove conclusively that the drug cures, or does not
  cure, FeLV.
 
The drug's manufacturer will supply the drug to us for both
  studies (at no charge) and will supervise the pilot study (with the results
  forwarded to Dr. Levy).
 
No harm will come to the cats. The drug is safe and there are no
  known side effects.
 
For the last two weeks I've been looking for a location to conduct
  the pilot study (we can't do it at the sanctuary). Once we find a place, I
  can put a final budget together.
 
We will need to raise money for the pilot study and if we proceed
  to the bigger study, we'll have to raise money for that, too. Donors to
  either study will receive a tax deduction. If the drug does cure FeLV, *10th
  Life *will receive a royalty on each sale of the drug because (1) we are
  raising the necessary research funds (the manufacturer's research budget is
  for human - not animal – trials), and (2) we will be supplying the FeLV+
  cats.
 
We will probably need more FeLV+ cats. In a few days I'll know if
  we need more FeLV+ cats and will ask you, then, if you have, or know someone
  who has, FeLV+ cats that could participate in the pilot study. Most FeLV+
  cats are routinely put down by their owners... this research is necessary
  because, if the drug cures FeLV, many lives will be saved.
In the meantime, please continue to support us with a donation...
  I spend most of my time raising operating funds and now that I'm spending a
  lot of time trying to get this study underway, I am not out there raising
  operating funds. Please, we need every donation to continue providing for
  our 1,200+ sanctuary cats and for these potentially life saving studies. All
  donations are tax deductible.
 
 
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 Check out our Memsaic!
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RE: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!

2008-03-19 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
ROFL!!



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:25 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!


here, snakey snakey snakey


On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


Yes, it's small, but hopefully enough to at least show a trend
one way or the other.  And if this small a sample means it can get under
way quickly, I think it's worth a shot.  The results might nudge
interest in a larger study at the very least.
 
LOL, I can see a huge black market in cobra-venom drugs for cat
owners in the rest of the company.  That's OK, Florida is really good at
black-market stuff. ;-)
 
Diane R.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:55 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!


I would eat cheesecake even if it weren't true...sure hope it is
thojust remember than 18-30 cats is a really small sample size...


On 3/18/08, Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

   Just received this from www.10thlife.org
http://www.10thlife.org/  newsletter, dare we hope???


Pilot Study Will Help Determine If New
Cobra-Venom Drug Cures Feline Leukemia

For more than a year we've been waiting for the
federal government to approve a license application to use a new
cobra-venom based drug in a large placebo controlled double blind
research study that will scientifically determine if the new drug cures
feline leukemia (FeLV). The manufacturer has already received approval
from the State of Florida to proceed, but - if the drug cures the
disease - sales would be limited to Florida veterinarians and Florida
cat owners. Federal approval would allow sales anywhere.

  Because of the federal delay, Dr. Julie
Levy of the University of Florida College of Veterinary Medicine
suggested we conduct a smaller 18-30 cat, four month, placebo controlled
double blind pilot study using the Florida license. The pilot study
will follow the same procedures and be conducted in the same manner as a
larger follow-up study using 100+ FeLV positive cats. The larger study
will be conducted if the pilot study shows good results. Good results
from the pilot study could expedite federal approval for a larger study
- which Dr. Levy would supervise. The larger 100+ cat study will prove
conclusively that the drug cures, or does not cure, FeLV.

  The drug's manufacturer will supply the
drug to us for both studies (at no charge) and will supervise the pilot
study (with the results forwarded to Dr. Levy).

  No harm will come to the cats. The drug is
safe and there are no known side effects.

  For the last two weeks I've been looking
for a location to conduct the pilot study (we can't do it at the
sanctuary). Once we find a place, I can put a final budget together.

  We will need to raise money for the pilot
study and if we proceed to the bigger study, we'll have to raise money
for that, too. Donors to either study will receive a tax deduction. If
the drug does cure FeLV, 10th Life will receive a royalty on each sale
of the drug because (1) we are raising the necessary research funds (the
manufacturer's research budget is for human - not animal - trials), and
(2) we will be supplying the FeLV+ cats.

  We will probably need more FeLV+ cats. In
a few days I'll know if we need more FeLV+ cats and will ask you, then,
if you have, or know someone who has, FeLV+ cats that could participate
in the pilot study. Most FeLV+ cats are routinely put down by their
owners... this research is necessary because, if the drug cures FeLV,
many lives will be saved.

  In the meantime, please continue to
support us with a donation... I spend most of my time raising operating
funds and now that I'm spending a lot of time trying to get this study
underway, I am not out there raising operating funds. Please, we need
every donation to continue providing for our 1,200+ sanctuary cats and
for these potentially life saving studies. All donations are tax
deductible.


-- 

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Re: Bartonella

2008-03-19 Thread Amy Weygandt
I also know somebody who had this and was very sick. 
My vet said that was her main reason for suggesting I
test, because I have a young child that plays with the
cats and could get cat scratch fever.  I wanted to
post to the group that it seems to be rather common in
the cats my vet is seeing (in NY) since it can be a
health issue for humans.

Amy

--- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wow!  Thank you Belinda!  I am surprised that this
 is where Cat Scratch Fever comes from!  I had a
 friend who had that and she was VERY sick
 (hospitalized for at least a week; they kept
 misdiagnosing it).
 
 :)
 Wendy
  
 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
 committed citizens can change the world - indeed it
 is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret
 Meade ~~~
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:55:55 AM
 Subject: Re: Bartonella
 
 Just to make sure no one gets confused,
 Haemobartonella and 
 Bartonella are two very different diseases.  I just
 don't want any new 
 people to get confused about this:
 

http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2003PID=6699O=Generic
 
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Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!

2008-03-19 Thread macat
I have no idea, but if it works, that's good enough for me!!

 This may sound really stupid but what makes them think that Cobra-Venom
 will cure Feline Leukemia?  Hurrah if it does!
 Sue
  Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 =
Just received this from *www.10thlife.org *newsletter, dare we hope???*
 *

 *Pilot Study Will Help Determine If New Cobra-Venom Drug Cures Feline
 Leukemia*






newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread Lynne
I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to adopt this 
adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I have missed 
BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional garbage with the previous 
owners of him that I just need another cat to give a good life to.  This cat 
was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet shop in town.  The humane 
society and SPCA went in and seized his animals and the City took his business 
licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut from 
infection, URI and it has taken the foster woman a month to get her well.  She 
got final approval from the vet to be let go, has got her shots updated and 
that's that.  She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting myself 
into another potential situation here, but at least I know what I have to deal 
with if an outbreak occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed before 
releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it in the near future once 
she has settled down in her new home.  I wish I had never had BooBoo neutered 
so quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it triggered his rapid downfall. 
 

Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email and we are going to start 
the process of her coming to me.  I am just so happy to be able to look after 
another little lost soul.

Lynne


Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread laurieskatz
May I be the first to say.Congratulations! I can feel your joy! I am glad 
you decided to wait on the spay. I have had that same thought about Booboo but 
didn't want to say it...we waited to spay Isabella (FeLV+), too. Eventually 
(via abdominal ultrasound performed because of then health issues ~ she is 
healthy now!) we learned she had hemaclips which meant she was already spayed. 
Each time we took her to be spayed she was sick ...what a blessing in disguise!

Winston (probable herpes) outbreaks when he goes to the vet. Using rescue 
remedy, rubbed inside his ears, has helped tremendously. You have good gut 
instincts, Lynn. I am glad they are cooperating with you!!

Happy Day! 
Consider joining the herpes yahoo group if you haven't already. I will see you 
there from time to time!
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:17 PM
  Subject: newgirlexpected


  I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to adopt 
this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I have 
missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional garbage with the 
previous owners of him that I just need another cat to give a good life to.  
This cat was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet shop in town.  The 
humane society and SPCA went in and seized his animals and the City took his 
business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut 
from infection, URI and it has taken the foster woman a month to get her well.  
She got final approval from the vet to be let go, has got her shots updated and 
that's that.  She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting myself 
into another potential situation here, but at least I know what I have to deal 
with if an outbreak occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed before 
releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it in the near future once 
she has settled down in her new home.  I wish I had never had BooBoo neutered 
so quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it triggered his rapid downfall. 
 

  Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email and we are going to start 
the process of her coming to me.  I am just so happy to be able to look after 
another little lost soul.

  Lynne

RE: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Aww Lynne congratulations to you and the little kitt!
It's just wonderful that you and your husband are opening your heart and
home again to a little furball that truly needs to be showered with love
and care. 
Keep us posted!
hugs, Kerry



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:17 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: newgirlexpected


I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to
adopt this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.
I have missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional
garbage with the previous owners of him that I just need another cat to
give a good life to.  This cat was rescued from a horrible person who
had a pet shop in town.  The humane society and SPCA went in and seized
his animals and the City took his business licence away.  This cat,
(Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut from infection, URI and it has
taken the foster woman a month to get her well.  She got final approval
from the vet to be let go, has got her shots updated and that's that.
She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting myself into
another potential situation here, but at least I know what I have to
deal with if an outbreak occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed
before releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it in the near
future once she has settled down in her new home.  I wish I had never
had BooBoo neutered so quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it
triggered his rapid downfall.  
 
Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email and we are going to
start the process of her coming to me.  I am just so happy to be able to
look after another little lost soul.
 
Lynne

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Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread Lynne
Thank you Kerry.  I am just so excited about getting her.  Probably won't be 
for another week but at least I know I'm getting her.
Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:37 PM
  Subject: RE: newgirlexpected


  Aww Lynne congratulations to you and the little kitt!
  It's just wonderful that you and your husband are opening your heart and home 
again to a little furball that truly needs to be showered with love and care. 
  Keep us posted!
  hugs, Kerry



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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:17 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: newgirlexpected


  I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to adopt 
this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I have 
missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional garbage with the 
previous owners of him that I just need another cat to give a good life to.  
This cat was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet shop in town.  The 
humane society and SPCA went in and seized his animals and the City took his 
business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut 
from infection, URI and it has taken the foster woman a month to get her well.  
She got final approval from the vet to be let go, has got her shots updated and 
that's that.  She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting myself 
into another potential situation here, but at least I know what I have to deal 
with if an outbreak occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed before 
releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it in the near future once 
she has settled down in her new home.  I wish I had never had BooBoo neutered 
so quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it triggered his rapid downfall. 
 

  Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email and we are going to start 
the process of her coming to me.  I am just so happy to be able to look after 
another little lost soul.

  Lynne
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Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread Lynne
Thank you Laurie.  I am not one hundred percent certain that Snowball was 
diagnosed with Herpes but this is what the general opinion is and considering 
her living conditions prior to the foster mom's getting her, it is most likely 
what she has.  I guess I'll know more when I get the vet reports and her 
immunization records.  She's healthy now but needs her eyes cleaned daily.  
Apparently some persians have this issue with runny eyes???

It only made sense to me that she should not be spayed so soon after we get 
her.  People with herpes virus have the same problem of stress triggering 
outbreaks.  Thank heavens you didn't have your Isabella spayed.  I will 
definitely get some rescue remedy and some lysine(?).  Laurie I was on the 
herpes group but got so angry at this guy who is breeding cats with herpes 
virus in some attempt to irradicate the virus that I left.  It was becoming 
seriously argumentative and emotionally I am just not up to fighting these 
days.   I do have some guilt about what happened to BooBoo.  I am just so sorry 
we neutered him, but the vet said he was healthy enough to handle it.  I would 
never place blame on anyone, except for the criminals who sold him to us, but 
if only I knew then what I know now things may have been different.  His blood 
work was bleak.  He was a very ill little guy but still, who knows how it may 
have turned out.  Extremely hard lesson to learn.

Snowball will never replace BooBoo or our wonderful Chuck or Lennie, who 
doesn't appear to be leaving any time too soon but I think she will bring some 
much needed joy into this house.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:37 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  May I be the first to say.Congratulations! I can feel your joy! I am glad 
you decided to wait on the spay. I have had that same thought about Booboo but 
didn't want to say it...we waited to spay Isabella (FeLV+), too. Eventually 
(via abdominal ultrasound performed because of then health issues ~ she is 
healthy now!) we learned she had hemaclips which meant she was already spayed. 
Each time we took her to be spayed she was sick ...what a blessing in disguise!

  Winston (probable herpes) outbreaks when he goes to the vet. Using rescue 
remedy, rubbed inside his ears, has helped tremendously. You have good gut 
instincts, Lynn. I am glad they are cooperating with you!!

  Happy Day! 
  Consider joining the herpes yahoo group if you haven't already. I will see 
you there from time to time!
  Laurie
- Original Message - 
From: Lynne 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:17 PM
Subject: newgirlexpected


I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to adopt 
this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I have 
missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional garbage with the 
previous owners of him that I just need another cat to give a good life to.  
This cat was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet shop in town.  The 
humane society and SPCA went in and seized his animals and the City took his 
business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut 
from infection, URI and it has taken the foster woman a month to get her well.  
She got final approval from the vet to be let go, has got her shots updated and 
that's that.  She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting myself 
into another potential situation here, but at least I know what I have to deal 
with if an outbreak occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed before 
releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it in the near future once 
she has settled down in her new home.  I wish I had never had BooBoo neutered 
so quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it triggered his rapid downfall. 
 

Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email and we are going to 
start the process of her coming to me.  I am just so happy to be able to look 
after another little lost soul.

Lynne


Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread Pat Kachur
Lynne - I could not be happier to hear about Snowball.  I have always found 
great joy whenever I have adopted a new kitty--for whatever reason.  So, I too 
feel she will bring much happiness to your family.  Congratulations!!!

PS - I have only had one purebred Persian - Priscilla, who was born on the 4th 
of July 1990 and left us 16 years later.  She, like many Persians did have eyes 
which needed to be cleaned often.

Pat
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:00 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  Thank you Laurie.  I am not one hundred percent certain that Snowball was 
diagnosed with Herpes but this is what the general opinion is and considering 
her living conditions prior to the foster mom's getting her, it is most likely 
what she has.  I guess I'll know more when I get the vet reports and her 
immunization records.  She's healthy now but needs her eyes cleaned daily.  
Apparently some persians have this issue with runny eyes???

  It only made sense to me that she should not be spayed so soon after we get 
her.  People with herpes virus have the same problem of stress triggering 
outbreaks.  Thank heavens you didn't have your Isabella spayed.  I will 
definitely get some rescue remedy and some lysine(?).  Laurie I was on the 
herpes group but got so angry at this guy who is breeding cats with herpes 
virus in some attempt to irradicate the virus that I left.  It was becoming 
seriously argumentative and emotionally I am just not up to fighting these 
days.   I do have some guilt about what happened to BooBoo.  I am just so sorry 
we neutered him, but the vet said he was healthy enough to handle it.  I would 
never place blame on anyone, except for the criminals who sold him to us, but 
if only I knew then what I know now things may have been different.  His blood 
work was bleak.  He was a very ill little guy but still, who knows how it may 
have turned out.  Extremely hard lesson to learn.

  Snowball will never replace BooBoo or our wonderful Chuck or Lennie, who 
doesn't appear to be leaving any time too soon but I think she will bring some 
much needed joy into this house.

  Lynne
- Original Message - 
From: laurieskatz 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


May I be the first to say.Congratulations! I can feel your joy! I am 
glad you decided to wait on the spay. I have had that same thought about Booboo 
but didn't want to say it...we waited to spay Isabella (FeLV+), too. Eventually 
(via abdominal ultrasound performed because of then health issues ~ she is 
healthy now!) we learned she had hemaclips which meant she was already spayed. 
Each time we took her to be spayed she was sick ...what a blessing in disguise!

Winston (probable herpes) outbreaks when he goes to the vet. Using rescue 
remedy, rubbed inside his ears, has helped tremendously. You have good gut 
instincts, Lynn. I am glad they are cooperating with you!!

Happy Day! 
Consider joining the herpes yahoo group if you haven't already. I will see 
you there from time to time!
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:17 PM
  Subject: newgirlexpected


  I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to adopt 
this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I have 
missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional garbage with the 
previous owners of him that I just need another cat to give a good life to.  
This cat was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet shop in town.  The 
humane society and SPCA went in and seized his animals and the City took his 
business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut 
from infection, URI and it has taken the foster woman a month to get her well.  
She got final approval from the vet to be let go, has got her shots updated and 
that's that.  She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting myself 
into another potential situation here, but at least I know what I have to deal 
with if an outbreak occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed before 
releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it in the near future once 
she has settled down in her new home.  I wish I had never had BooBoo neutered 
so quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it triggered his rapid downfall. 
 

  Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email and we are going to 
start the process of her coming to me.  I am just so happy to be able to look 
after another little lost soul.

  Lynne

Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread dede hicken
Lynne,
Am so happy for you and you new little one.  When I
was living in Fl, the rescue groups combined to take
in over 50 persians this woman had.  They were all
sick.  It was an awful battle.

God bless you and Snowball.  It WILL make a difference
for you, and it already has for her.

Dede



--- Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have
 been trying to adopt this adorable little rescued
 cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I have missed
 BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional
 garbage with the previous owners of him that I just
 need another cat to give a good life to.  This cat
 was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet
 shop in town.  The humane society and SPCA went in
 and seized his animals and the City took his
 business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so
 sick, eyes swollen shut from infection, URI and it
 has taken the foster woman a month to get her well. 
 She got final approval from the vet to be let go,
 has got her shots updated and that's that.  She had
 been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting
 myself into another potential situation here, but at
 least I know what I have to deal with if an outbreak
 occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed before
 releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it
 in the near future once she has settled down in her
 new home.  I wish I had never had BooBoo neutered so
 quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it
 triggered his rapid downfall.  
 
 Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email
 and we are going to start the process of her coming
 to me.  I am just so happy to be able to look after
 another little lost soul.
 
 Lynne
 


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Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread MaryChristine
extreme-faced persians very often have trouble with their eyes and nasal
passages--there are many resources on the internet for those who work with
them. some need their little faces just wiped off every day, some need their
faces WASHED, others will present as if they have an infection all the time
even when they don't (combination of permanent damage to their little nasal
passages from a previous URI/lack of nasal passages to start with)--etc etc
etc. i could go on and on, as my house has been  decorated in persian
provincial since 1981.

i mentioned before that you could contact me off list re: rescuing persians;
that offer remains open re: resources.

MC

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to adopt
 this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I have
 missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional garbage with the
 previous owners of him that I just need another cat to give a good life to.
 This cat was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet shop in town.  The
 humane society and SPCA went in and seized his animals and the City took his
 business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut
 from infection, URI and it has taken the foster woman a month to get her
 well.  She got final approval from the vet to be let go, has got her shots
 updated and that's that.  She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm
 getting myself into another potential situation here, but at least I know
 what I have to deal with if an outbreak occurs.  The vet was going to have
 her spayed before releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it in
 the near future once she has settled down in her new home.  I wish I had
 never had BooBoo neutered so quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it
 triggered his rapid downfall.

 Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email and we are going to
 start the process of her coming to me.  I am just so happy to be able to
 look after another little lost soul.

 Lynne




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Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread Lynne
Thank you.  I'm certain I will be talking to you with your knowledge of 
persians.  To show you how much I know I wasn't even sure she was one.  I just 
thought she looked so sweet and in a small way reminded me of Boo.  The field 
worker for the humane society called me last evening to let me know that he had 
been to Boo's previous owner's house asking for info about their breeding 
practices and contacts of others who bought a cat from them.  I told him I was 
trying to adopt this cat named Snowball and it was him who told me definitively 
that she is a persian.  He in fact was the one who rescued her from this guy in 
town.  He said he had wondered where she wound up and was very happy to hear 
she was coming to us.  Snowball is kind of a poster child for neglected cats 
around here.  

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: MaryChristine 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:27 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  extreme-faced persians very often have trouble with their eyes and nasal 
passages--there are many resources on the internet for those who work with 
them. some need their little faces just wiped off every day, some need their 
faces WASHED, others will present as if they have an infection all the time 
even when they don't (combination of permanent damage to their little nasal 
passages from a previous URI/lack of nasal passages to start with)--etc etc 
etc. i could go on and on, as my house has been  d ecorated in persian 
provincial since 1981. 

  i mentioned before that you could contact me off list re: rescuing persians; 
that offer remains open re: resources.

  MC


  On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to adopt 
this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I have 
missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional garbage with the 
previous owners of him that I just need another cat to give a good life to.  
This cat was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet shop in town.  The 
humane society and SPCA went in and seized his animals and the City took his 
business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut 
from infection, URI and it has taken the foster woman a month to get her well.  
She got final approval from the vet to be let go, has got her shots updated and 
that's that.  She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting myself 
into another potential situation here, but at least I know what I have to deal 
with if an outbreak occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed before 
releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it in the near future once 
she has settled down in her new home.  I wish I had never had BooBoo neutered 
so quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it triggered his rapid downfall. 
 

Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email and we are going to 
start the process of her coming to me.  I am just so happy to be able to look 
after another little lost soul.

Lynne



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  Maybe That'll Make The Difference

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Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread laurieskatz
Oh Lynne. I have not been on that group for awhile. That is disgusting. I have 
stopped visiting other groups where breeders lurk. 
Re Booboo, some kitties just respond poorly to anesthesia and also it can 
awaken sleeping threats. My Squeak (FeLV+) had not been under anesthesia except 
to be neutered and declawed by his prior owner. I adopted him at age 8. At 22 
he needed a dental cleaning. The vet had been scraping the tartar off his teeth 
for years but felt we needed a dental. Pre surgery blood work was perfect. Two 
months later he was dead from oral cancer. Did the anesthesia awaken a sleeping 
virus? I will never know but he was the PICTURE of health before this. I don't 
blame anyone but it makes me very sad. He was my soul mate.

I have read that Persians' flat faces make them more susceptible to upper 
respiratory problems. I suppose the eye problem susecptibility would also make 
sense.You will probably learn alot from her that you can share with others 
along the way.

Blessings. You deserve them!
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:00 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  Thank you Laurie.  I am not one hundred percent certain that Snowball was 
diagnosed with Herpes but this is what the general opinion is and considering 
her living conditions prior to the foster mom's getting her, it is most likely 
what she has.  I guess I'll know more when I get the vet reports and her 
immunization records.  She's healthy now but needs her eyes cleaned daily.  
Apparently some persians have this issue with runny eyes???

  It only made sense to me that she should not be spayed so soon after we get 
her.  People with herpes virus have the same problem of stress triggering 
outbreaks.  Thank heavens you didn't have your Isabella spayed.  I will 
definitely get some rescue remedy and some lysine(?).  Laurie I was on the 
herpes group but got so angry at this guy who is breeding cats with herpes 
virus in some attempt to irradicate the virus that I left.  It was becoming 
seriously argumentative and emotionally I am just not up to fighting these 
days.   I do have some guilt about what happened to BooBoo.  I am just so sorry 
we neutered him, but the vet said he was healthy enough to handle it.  I would 
never place blame on anyone, except for the criminals who sold him to us, but 
if only I knew then what I know now things may have been different.  His blood 
work was bleak.  He was a very ill little guy but still, who knows how it may 
have turned out.  Extremely hard lesson to learn.

  Snowball will never replace BooBoo or our wonderful Chuck or Lennie, who 
doesn't appear to be leaving any time too soon but I think she will bring some 
much needed joy into this house.

  Lynne
- Original Message - 
From: laurieskatz 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


May I be the first to say.Congratulations! I can feel your joy! I am 
glad you decided to wait on the spay. I have had that same thought about Booboo 
but didn't want to say it...we waited to spay Isabella (FeLV+), too. Eventually 
(via abdominal ultrasound performed because of then health issues ~ she is 
healthy now!) we learned she had hemaclips which meant she was already spayed. 
Each time we took her to be spayed she was sick ...what a blessing in disguise!

Winston (probable herpes) outbreaks when he goes to the vet. Using rescue 
remedy, rubbed inside his ears, has helped tremendously. You have good gut 
instincts, Lynn. I am glad they are cooperating with you!!

Happy Day! 
Consider joining the herpes yahoo group if you haven't already. I will see 
you there from time to time!
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:17 PM
  Subject: newgirlexpected


  I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to adopt 
this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I have 
missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional garbage with the 
previous owners of him that I just need another cat to give a good life to.  
This cat was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet shop in town.  The 
humane society and SPCA went in and seized his animals and the City took his 
business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut 
from infection, URI and it has taken the foster woman a month to get her well.  
She got final approval from the vet to be let go, has got her shots updated and 
that's that.  She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting myself 
into another potential situation here, but at least I know what I have to deal 
with if an outbreak occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed before 
releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it in the near 

Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread Lynne
Dede I told the foster mom she should start telling Snowball about her new
adoptive parents and what life is going to be like with us.

Lynne
- Original Message -
From: dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


 Lynne,
 Am so happy for you and you new little one.  When I
 was living in Fl, the rescue groups combined to take
 in over 50 persians this woman had.  They were all
 sick.  It was an awful battle.

 God bless you and Snowball.  It WILL make a difference
 for you, and it already has for her.

 Dede



 --- Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have
  been trying to adopt this adorable little rescued
  cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I have missed
  BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional
  garbage with the previous owners of him that I just
  need another cat to give a good life to.  This cat
  was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet
  shop in town.  The humane society and SPCA went in
  and seized his animals and the City took his
  business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so
  sick, eyes swollen shut from infection, URI and it
  has taken the foster woman a month to get her well.
  She got final approval from the vet to be let go,
  has got her shots updated and that's that.  She had
  been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting
  myself into another potential situation here, but at
  least I know what I have to deal with if an outbreak
  occurs.  The vet was going to have her spayed before
  releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it
  in the near future once she has settled down in her
  new home.  I wish I had never had BooBoo neutered so
  quickly after getting him.  I truly believe it
  triggered his rapid downfall.
 
  Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email
  and we are going to start the process of her coming
  to me.  I am just so happy to be able to look after
  another little lost soul.
 
  Lynne
 


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Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread Lynne
Pat it's been 19 years since we had a new kitty in the house, with the 
exception of precious Boo who only lived with us a month but has his photos 
right there front and centre with our previous boy and present guy.  I don't 
think Snowball's eyes are going to be a terrible issue.  She just needs someone 
to wipe them daily.  The foster mom says she only has to do it once a day now 
whereas in the beginning it was twice.  It seems there are persian people on 
this list who will be invaluable to us.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Pat Kachur 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:06 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  Lynne - I could not be happier to hear about Snowball.  I have always found 
great joy whenever I have adopted a new kitty--for whatever reason.  So, I too 
feel she will bring much happiness to your family.  Congratulations!!!

  PS - I have only had one purebred Persian - Priscilla, who was born on the 
4th of July 1990 and left us 16 years later.  She, like many Persians did have 
eyes which needed to be cleaned often.

  Pat
- Original Message - 
From: Lynne 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


Thank you Laurie.  I am not one hundred percent certain that Snowball was 
diagnosed with Herpes but this is what the general opinion is and considering 
her living conditions prior to the foster mom's getting her, it is most likely 
what she has.  I guess I'll know more when I get the vet reports and her 
immunization records.  She's healthy now but needs her eyes cleaned daily.  
Apparently some persians have this issue with runny eyes???

It only made sense to me that she should not be spayed so soon after we get 
her.  People with herpes virus have the same problem of stress triggering 
outbreaks.  Thank heavens you didn't have your Isabella spayed.  I will 
definitely get some rescue remedy and some lysine(?).  Laurie I was on the 
herpes group but got so angry at this guy who is breeding cats with herpes 
virus in some attempt to irradicate the virus that I left.  It was becoming 
seriously argumentative and emotionally I am just not up to fighting these 
days.   I do have some guilt about what happened to BooBoo.  I am just so sorry 
we neutered him, but the vet said he was healthy enough to handle it.  I would 
never place blame on anyone, except for the criminals who sold him to us, but 
if only I knew then what I know now things may have been different.  His blood 
work was bleak.  He was a very ill little guy but still, who knows how it may 
have turned out.  Extremely hard lesson to learn.

Snowball will never replace BooBoo or our wonderful Chuck or Lennie, who 
doesn't appear to be leaving any time too soon but I think she will bring some 
much needed joy into this house.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:37 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  May I be the first to say.Congratulations! I can feel your joy! I am 
glad you decided to wait on the spay. I have had that same thought about Booboo 
but didn't want to say it...we waited to spay Isabella (FeLV+), too. Eventually 
(via abdominal ultrasound performed because of then health issues ~ she is 
healthy now!) we learned she had hemaclips which meant she was already spayed. 
Each time we took her to be spayed she was sick ...what a blessing in disguise!

  Winston (probable herpes) outbreaks when he goes to the vet. Using rescue 
remedy, rubbed inside his ears, has helped tremendously. You have good gut 
instincts, Lynn. I am glad they are cooperating with you!!

  Happy Day! 
  Consider joining the herpes yahoo group if you haven't already. I will 
see you there from time to time!
  Laurie
- Original Message - 
From: Lynne 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:17 PM
Subject: newgirlexpected


I got the email I've been waiting for today.  I have been trying to 
adopt this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now.  I 
have missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional garbage with 
the previous owners of him that I just need another cat to give a good life to. 
 This cat was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet shop in town.  The 
humane society and SPCA went in and seized his animals and the City took his 
business licence away.  This cat, (Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut 
from infection, URI and it has taken the foster woman a month to get her well.  
She got final approval from the vet to be let go, has got her shots updated and 
that's that.  She had been disgnosed with herpes.  I know, I'm getting myself 
into another potential situation here, but at least I know what I have to deal 
with if an 

Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread Lynne
Oh Laurie, how horrible for you to lose your cat at 22 after the cleaning 
especially since he lived so long and was a positive.  How absolutely heart 
breaking.  Lennie has never had his teeth cleaned under anesthesia.  He has 
always eaten hard food and now I mix it with some softer food but everytime he 
goes to the vet they check his teeth and they're fine.  I probably will never 
have that procedure done to him unless there were an abscess or something.  Too 
risky.  Speaking of risk, I called Lennie's vet, only because they are familiar 
with him and told them what I was planning to do, getting Snowball, and should 
I have him vaccinated for the Herpes Virus.  I forget what 2 things it 
involves, and he said, oh yes, bring him in.  He'll need a physical and then 
we'll vaccinate him.  Lennie was sick last summer with a dermatitis and ear 
infection, not mites, just an ear infection.  He went nuts on Prednisone so 
came off it and once it was discovered he had a thyroid issue, many hundreds of 
dollars later, he was put on thyroid medication and you'd swear he'a a 10 year 
old again.  Anyhow, I then called BooBoo's vet and told him the story.  He 
said, do not vaccinate your old guy. It could be more harmful than benefit.  He 
also assured me that if Snowball is vaccinated and is symptom free I should 
have nothing to worry about.  If she does have an outbreak, I would need to 
isolate her until she is well again.  Lennie will not even go near her.  This I 
know.  He avoided BooBoo like the plague and has no interest in other animals 
whatsoever.  I will have to be diligent about litter boxes, dishes etc but I'm 
really not worried.  With what we have just gone through, we can handle this.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:40 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  Oh Lynne. I have not been on that group for awhile. That is disgusting. I 
have stopped visiting other groups where breeders lurk. 
  Re Booboo, some kitties just respond poorly to anesthesia and also it can 
awaken sleeping threats. My Squeak (FeLV+) had not been under anesthesia except 
to be neutered and declawed by his prior owner. I adopted him at age 8. At 22 
he needed a dental cleaning. The vet had been scraping the tartar off his teeth 
for years but felt we needed a dental. Pre surgery blood work was perfect. Two 
months later he was dead from oral cancer. Did the anesthesia awaken a sleeping 
virus? I will never know but he was the PICTURE of health before this. I don't 
blame anyone but it makes me very sad. He was my soul mate.

  I have read that Persians' flat faces make them more susceptible to upper 
respiratory problems. I suppose the eye problem susecptibility would also make 
sense.You will probably learn alot from her that you can share with others 
along the way.

  Blessings. You deserve them!
  Laurie
- Original Message - 
From: Lynne 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


Thank you Laurie.  I am not one hundred percent certain that Snowball was 
diagnosed with Herpes but this is what the general opinion is and considering 
her living conditions prior to the foster mom's getting her, it is most likely 
what she has.  I guess I'll know more when I get the vet reports and her 
immunization records.  She's healthy now but needs her eyes cleaned daily.  
Apparently some persians have this issue with runny eyes???

It only made sense to me that she should not be spayed so soon after we get 
her.  People with herpes virus have the same problem of stress triggering 
outbreaks.  Thank heavens you didn't have your Isabella spayed.  I will 
definitely get some rescue remedy and some lysine(?).  Laurie I was on the 
herpes group but got so angry at this guy who is breeding cats with herpes 
virus in some attempt to irradicate the virus that I left.  It was becoming 
seriously argumentative and emotionally I am just not up to fighting these 
days.   I do have some guilt about what happened to BooBoo.  I am just so sorry 
we neutered him, but the vet said he was healthy enough to handle it.  I would 
never place blame on anyone, except for the criminals who sold him to us, but 
if only I knew then what I know now things may have been different.  His blood 
work was bleak.  He was a very ill little guy but still, who knows how it may 
have turned out.  Extremely hard lesson to learn.

Snowball will never replace BooBoo or our wonderful Chuck or Lennie, who 
doesn't appear to be leaving any time too soon but I think she will bring some 
much needed joy into this house.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:37 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  May I be the first to say.Congratulations! I can feel your joy! I 

Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread laurieskatz
Pretty sure 2 of mine have herpes. Keisha probably did, too. Pretty sure 3 do 
not.
They have lived together for 7 years.
L
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:54 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  Oh Laurie, how horrible for you to lose your cat at 22 after the cleaning 
especially since he lived so long and was a positive.  How absolutely heart 
breaking.  Lennie has never had his teeth cleaned under anesthesia.  He has 
always eaten hard food and now I mix it with some softer food but everytime he 
goes to the vet they check his teeth and they're fine.  I probably will never 
have that procedure done to him unless there were an abscess or something.  Too 
risky.  Speaking of risk, I called Lennie's vet, only because they are familiar 
with him and told them what I was planning to do, getting Snowball, and should 
I have him vaccinated for the Herpes Virus.  I forget what 2 things it 
involves, and he said, oh yes, bring him in.  He'll need a physical and then 
we'll vaccinate him.  Lennie was sick last summer with a dermatitis and ear 
infection, not mites, just an ear infection.  He went nuts on Prednisone so 
came off it and once it was discovered he had a thyroid issue, many hundreds of 
dollars later, he was put on thyroid medication and you'd swear he'a a 10 year 
old again.  Anyhow, I then called BooBoo's vet and told him the story.  He 
said, do not vaccinate your old guy. It could be more harmful than benefit.  He 
also assured me that if Snowball is vaccinated and is symptom free I should 
have nothing to worry about.  If she does have an outbreak, I would need to 
isolate her until she is well again.  Lennie will not even go near her.  This I 
know.  He avoided BooBoo like the plague and has no interest in other animals 
whatsoever.  I will have to be diligent about litter boxes, dishes etc but I'm 
really not worried.  With what we have just gone through, we can handle this.

  Lynne
- Original Message - 
From: laurieskatz 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


Oh Lynne. I have not been on that group for awhile. That is disgusting. I 
have stopped visiting other groups where breeders lurk. 
Re Booboo, some kitties just respond poorly to anesthesia and also it can 
awaken sleeping threats. My Squeak (FeLV+) had not been under anesthesia except 
to be neutered and declawed by his prior owner. I adopted him at age 8. At 22 
he needed a dental cleaning. The vet had been scraping the tartar off his teeth 
for years but felt we needed a dental. Pre surgery blood work was perfect. Two 
months later he was dead from oral cancer. Did the anesthesia awaken a sleeping 
virus? I will never know but he was the PICTURE of health before this. I don't 
blame anyone but it makes me very sad. He was my soul mate.

I have read that Persians' flat faces make them more susceptible to upper 
respiratory problems. I suppose the eye problem susecptibility would also make 
sense.You will probably learn alot from her that you can share with others 
along the way.

Blessings. You deserve them!
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:00 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  Thank you Laurie.  I am not one hundred percent certain that Snowball was 
diagnosed with Herpes but this is what the general opinion is and considering 
her living conditions prior to the foster mom's getting her, it is most likely 
what she has.  I guess I'll know more when I get the vet reports and her 
immunization records.  She's healthy now but needs her eyes cleaned daily.  
Apparently some persians have this issue with runny eyes???

  It only made sense to me that she should not be spayed so soon after we 
get her.  People with herpes virus have the same problem of stress triggering 
outbreaks.  Thank heavens you didn't have your Isabella spayed.  I will 
definitely get some rescue remedy and some lysine(?).  Laurie I was on the 
herpes group but got so angry at this guy who is breeding cats with herpes 
virus in some attempt to irradicate the virus that I left.  It was becoming 
seriously argumentative and emotionally I am just not up to fighting these 
days.   I do have some guilt about what happened to BooBoo.  I am just so sorry 
we neutered him, but the vet said he was healthy enough to handle it.  I would 
never place blame on anyone, except for the criminals who sold him to us, but 
if only I knew then what I know now things may have been different.  His blood 
work was bleak.  He was a very ill little guy but still, who knows how it may 
have turned out.  Extremely hard lesson to learn.

  Snowball will never replace BooBoo or our wonderful Chuck or Lennie, who 
doesn't appear to be leaving any time too soon but I think 

Re: newgirlexpected

2008-03-19 Thread Lynne
Well that's reassuring.  I'm not gonna sleep tonight I'm so excited.  Even my 
husband, who wouldn't even look at her picture when I tried showing it to him 
at first is excited.  He's taken BooBoo's death very hard.  Tonight though he 
looked at her photo and exclaimed,  that's her !!!.  Then he started to smile 
and admitted he's anxious to have her.  I just hope this cat loves me the most. 
 The two males we've had and even BooBoo have always wound up on Bob's lap or 
when Josh lived at home, his lap.  I've always been the second choice.  Maybe 
Snowball being a female will want to hang with me more.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:47 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  Pretty sure 2 of mine have herpes. Keisha probably did, too. Pretty sure 3 do 
not.
  They have lived together for 7 years.
  L
- Original Message - 
From: Lynne 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


Oh Laurie, how horrible for you to lose your cat at 22 after the cleaning 
especially since he lived so long and was a positive.  How absolutely heart 
breaking.  Lennie has never had his teeth cleaned under anesthesia.  He has 
always eaten hard food and now I mix it with some softer food but everytime he 
goes to the vet they check his teeth and they're fine.  I probably will never 
have that procedure done to him unless there were an abscess or something.  Too 
risky.  Speaking of risk, I called Lennie's vet, only because they are familiar 
with him and told them what I was planning to do, getting Snowball, and should 
I have him vaccinated for the Herpes Virus.  I forget what 2 things it 
involves, and he said, oh yes, bring him in.  He'll need a physical and then 
we'll vaccinate him.  Lennie was sick last summer with a dermatitis and ear 
infection, not mites, just an ear infection.  He went nuts on Prednisone so 
came off it and once it was discovered he had a thyroid issue, many hundreds of 
dollars later, he was put on thyroid medication and you'd swear he'a a 10 year 
old again.  Anyhow, I then called BooBoo's vet and told him the story.  He 
said, do not vaccinate your old guy. It could be more harmful than benefit.  He 
also assured me that if Snowball is vaccinated and is symptom free I should 
have nothing to worry about.  If she does have an outbreak, I would need to 
isolate her until she is well again.  Lennie will not even go near her.  This I 
know.  He avoided BooBoo like the plague and has no interest in other animals 
whatsoever.  I will have to be diligent about litter boxes, dishes etc but I'm 
really not worried.  With what we have just gone through, we can handle this.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:40 PM
  Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


  Oh Lynne. I have not been on that group for awhile. That is disgusting. I 
have stopped visiting other groups where breeders lurk. 
  Re Booboo, some kitties just respond poorly to anesthesia and also it can 
awaken sleeping threats. My Squeak (FeLV+) had not been under anesthesia except 
to be neutered and declawed by his prior owner. I adopted him at age 8. At 22 
he needed a dental cleaning. The vet had been scraping the tartar off his teeth 
for years but felt we needed a dental. Pre surgery blood work was perfect. Two 
months later he was dead from oral cancer. Did the anesthesia awaken a sleeping 
virus? I will never know but he was the PICTURE of health before this. I don't 
blame anyone but it makes me very sad. He was my soul mate.

  I have read that Persians' flat faces make them more susceptible to upper 
respiratory problems. I suppose the eye problem susecptibility would also make 
sense.You will probably learn alot from her that you can share with others 
along the way.

  Blessings. You deserve them!
  Laurie
- Original Message - 
From: Lynne 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: newgirlexpected


Thank you Laurie.  I am not one hundred percent certain that Snowball 
was diagnosed with Herpes but this is what the general opinion is and 
considering her living conditions prior to the foster mom's getting her, it is 
most likely what she has.  I guess I'll know more when I get the vet reports 
and her immunization records.  She's healthy now but needs her eyes cleaned 
daily.  Apparently some persians have this issue with runny eyes???

It only made sense to me that she should not be spayed so soon after we 
get her.  People with herpes virus have the same problem of stress triggering 
outbreaks.  Thank heavens you didn't have your Isabella spayed.  I will 
definitely get some rescue remedy and some lysine(?).  Laurie 

Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!

2008-03-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://jvi.asm.org/cgi/reprint/54/3/873.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrievedb=PubMedlist_uids=2820273dopt=Abstract
 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrievedb=PubMedlist_uids=2820273dopt=Abstract

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=551090

http://iai.asm.org/cgi/reprint/29/1/165.pdf

Sam




please add Slinky to the CLS

2008-03-19 Thread Sally Davis
Hi

Slinky adopted my sister a year and a half ago. He was cautious to be her
cat as he was probably dumped off. He finally befriended her and her canine
lab mixes who loved chasing cats. Slinky was fearless andhe  invited his
self into her home. With his laid back attitude the dogs did not give chase.
The day Junior passed I called Laura to cry on her shoulder. She informed me
Slinky was sleeping a lot and somewhat lethargic. He was also off his food.
I told her get him to a vet ASAP, which she did. She found out that he was
FELV positive. He had a fever. The vet gave fliuds and sent abx home with
her. Laura was scared . She decided to give it a chance as this cat chose
her. Well folks it was not meant to be the cat went off. She found him
hiding under her porch and she could see in his eyes he was ready to go. So
she took him to another vet who checked everything out and she decided to
set him free. She feels as I do that Junior was letting us know that Slinky
was not well.

So please add Slinky to the CLS for Laura. Hopefully Slinky will send her
someone to love soon.

Thanks

Sally

Still very much missing my Junior.

-- 
Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little
Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) , Silver, and Spike
Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up.

http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3


Re: please add Slinky to the CLS

2008-03-19 Thread Lynne
I'm sorry Slinky had to leave Sally.  It does sound as though he had a good 
year and a half with your sister.  Yes he is now free and with all the other 
little ones who have left us.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sally Davis 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:30 PM
  Subject: please add Slinky to the CLS


  Hi 

  Slinky adopted my sister a year and a half ago. He was cautious to be her cat 
as he was probably dumped off. He finally befriended her and her canine lab 
mixes who loved chasing cats. Slinky was fearless andhe  invited his self into 
her home. With his laid back attitude the dogs did not give chase. The day 
Junior passed I called Laura to cry on her shoulder. She informed me Slinky was 
sleeping a lot and somewhat lethargic. He was also off his food. I told her get 
him to a vet ASAP, which she did. She found out that he was FELV positive. He 
had a fever. The vet gave fliuds and sent abx home with her. Laura was scared . 
She decided to give it a chance as this cat chose her. Well folks it was not 
meant to be the cat went off. She found him hiding under her porch and she 
could see in his eyes he was ready to go. So she took him to another vet who 
checked everything out and she decided to set him free. She feels as I do that 
Junior was letting us know that Slinky was not well.

  So please add Slinky to the CLS for Laura. Hopefully Slinky will send her 
someone to love soon.

  Thanks

  Sally

  Still very much missing my Junior.

  -- 
  Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little 
Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) , Silver, and Spike Please 
Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up.

  http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 


Re: please add Slinky to the CLS

2008-03-19 Thread Sally Davis
Hi Lynne

Thanks you. I wish I were closer to my sister to give her a hug. She is
having medical issues, and this is even harder for her.

Congratulations on your new kitty. I always assumed Junior had herpes as
well. I gave him L Lysine everyday.
BooBoo and Junior will be there for Slinky.

Sally

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm sorry Slinky had to leave Sally.  It does sound as though he had a
 good year and a half with your sister.  Yes he is now free and with all the
 other little ones who have left us.

 Lynne

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:30 PM
 *Subject:* please add Slinky to the CLS

 Hi

 Slinky adopted my sister a year and a half ago. He was cautious to be her
 cat as he was probably dumped off. He finally befriended her and her canine
 lab mixes who loved chasing cats. Slinky was fearless andhe  invited his
 self into her home. With his laid back attitude the dogs did not give chase.
 The day Junior passed I called Laura to cry on her shoulder. She informed me
 Slinky was sleeping a lot and somewhat lethargic. He was also off his food.
 I told her get him to a vet ASAP, which she did. She found out that he was
 FELV positive. He had a fever. The vet gave fliuds and sent abx home with
 her. Laura was scared . She decided to give it a chance as this cat chose
 her. Well folks it was not meant to be the cat went off. She found him
 hiding under her porch and she could see in his eyes he was ready to go. So
 she took him to another vet who checked everything out and she decided to
 set him free. She feels as I do that Junior was letting us know that Slinky
 was not well.

 So please add Slinky to the CLS for Laura. Hopefully Slinky will send her
 someone to love soon.

 Thanks

 Sally

 Still very much missing my Junior.

 --
 Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty,
 Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) , Silver, and
 Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to
 sign up.

 http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3




-- 
Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little
Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) , Silver, and Spike
Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up.

http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3


Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!

2008-03-19 Thread MaryChristine
wow, some of these are really old (in research terms--wonder what made them
wait so long/decide to re-evaluate??)

MC

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 9:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 http://jvi.asm.org/cgi/reprint/54/3/873.pdf


 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrievedb=PubMedlist_uids=2820273dopt=Abstract
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrievedb=PubMedlist_uids=2820273dopt=Abstract
 

 http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=551090

 http://iai.asm.org/cgi/reprint/29/1/165.pdf

 Sam





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