Re: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away

2009-05-13 Thread ajdalgliesh
Hi Giselle,
 
I'm sorry that you are having to go through this.
 
First thing, and I know this is hard... DO NOT BLAME YOURSELF.  I fully 
understand that is the first thing we tend to do, but knowing the way you love 
her, it is not warranted.  You want the best for her, she knows it and so do 
we.   
 
Second, one way to know if she is dehydrated is to pinch her scruff.  If it is 
slow to return to normal, definitely get her subQ fluid at the vet and have 
them show you how to do it.  When dehydrated, cats feel headachy, their 
electrolytes get out of whack and they don't want to eat or be messed with.  
SubQ fluids will address this.  
 
Third and most important, listen to the folks here.  I am new to this group 
and I still have a lot to learn.  These folks have experience that I continue 
to take with me to my vet.  If he decided not to have an open mind, I would go 
elsewhere.

 
From your writing, I don't know if the vet you saw is at your regular 
veterinary office, but with the reaction you had, you should not have any 
qualms changing to another and you should definitely let her know why you did.  
These guys definitely need a sympathetic doctor who understands and takes into 
account all aspects of this disease.  
 
I'm keeping positive thoughts for Pixie, she is obviously a very special girl.  
 
 

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From: G D 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 5:02 PM



Hi everyone,

Pixie is my best buddy and constant companion as I work from home. She's a 
4-year old female FeLV+. Last Thursday I went away for 5 days, leaving her home 
alone with a neighbor coming over for at least an hour each day to keep her 
company, feed wet food, brush, clean litterbox, etc. I returned from my trip 
yesterday and immediately knew something was wrong -- Pixie didn't come greet 
me and her dry food and water bowls were almost totally full (how I left them 
before leaving on Thursday).

The neighbor said Pixie didn't eat her wet food either. She is now much 
skinnier around the midsection/haunches and clearly weak. Straight away I 
syringe-fed her a wet food & water slurry before rushing over to the vet where 
the vet on duty found Pixie had lost over 1 lb (since she was last weighed in 
2007) and said her gums and eyes looked pale. The vet suggested Pixie might 
have nonregenerative anemia linked to bone marrow failure. 

She had some blood drawn, got weighed and had temperature taken but that's it. 
I'm waiting to hear the blood work results tomorrow. Vet didn't even recommend 
how to deal with the weight loss and probable dehydration. Didn't suggest 
x-rays either. This woman basically shrugged when I asked about courses of 
treatment (like, why bother?) for a FeLV cat who might have anemia. 

Bottom line: I'm terrified about Pixie and don't know what to do to help her 
recover. She's my second cat ever, and first cat I've been primary caregiver 
to. I feel guilty about going away at all last week, but she had been OK on 
previous occasions when I travelled. I've been syringe-feeding her slurries 
every 2 hours all day but she doesn't seem to be regaining strength and she's 
breathing faster than normal and I catch her staring blankly.

Any advice from you guys is much appreciated. 
Thanks,
Giselle





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Re: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away

2009-05-13 Thread Sharyl

Giselle, you have received some good advise.  Pixie is probably dehydrated 
which could also make her weak.  Sub Q fluids could help.  Also sounds like she 
is anemic.  Your vet can give her a B12 shot which might help.  You can add 
some Super B Complex, B12 and folic acid to the food slurry you are syringe 
feeding her.  Please continue to syringe feed her until you get a dx from the 
vet.  

Some vets just don't even try to help a positive kitty.  
Hugs to Pixie
Sharyl 

--- On Wed, 5/13/09, G D  wrote:

> From: G D 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 5:02 PM
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Pixie is my best buddy and constant companion as I work
> from home. She's a 4-year old female FeLV+. Last Thursday I
> went away for 5 days, leaving her home alone with a neighbor
> coming over for at least an hour each day to keep her
> company, feed wet food, brush, clean litterbox, etc. I
> returned from my trip yesterday and immediately knew
> something was wrong -- Pixie didn't come greet me and her
> dry food and water bowls were almost totally full (how I
> left them before leaving on Thursday).
> 
> The neighbor said Pixie didn't eat her wet food either. She
> is now much skinnier around the midsection/haunches and
> clearly weak. Straight away I syringe-fed her a wet food
> & water slurry before rushing over to the vet where the
> vet on duty found Pixie had lost over 1 lb (since she was
> last weighed in 2007) and said her gums and eyes looked
> pale. The vet suggested Pixie might have nonregenerative
> anemia linked to bone marrow failure. 
> 
> She had some blood drawn, got weighed and had temperature
> taken but that's it. I'm waiting to hear the blood work
> results tomorrow. Vet didn't even recommend how to deal with
> the weight loss and probable dehydration. Didn't suggest
> x-rays either. This woman basically shrugged when I asked
> about courses of treatment (like, why bother?) for a FeLV
> cat who might have anemia. 
> 
> Bottom line: I'm terrified about Pixie and don't know what
> to do to help her recover. She's my second cat ever, and
> first cat I've been primary caregiver to. I feel guilty
> about going away at all last week, but she had been OK on
> previous occasions when I travelled. I've been
> syringe-feeding her slurries every 2 hours all day but she
> doesn't seem to be regaining strength and she's breathing
> faster than normal and I catch her staring blankly.
> 
> Any advice from you guys is much appreciated. 
> Thanks,
> Giselle
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed

2009-05-13 Thread Cougar Clan
I lost my wonderful Dixie Louise Doodle Katt after 3 years.  She came  
out of a pine thicket (country equivalent of street).  She was full  
grown and, until a few days before she left, I thought she had beaten  
it.  There were short/little problems but nothing that couldn't happen  
with the healthiest cat who had lived on her own for a while/forever.   
I gave her my heart and I would not trade one second of time with her  
for anything.  Not even those awful last few minutes as she left this  
world beside me as I was driving her home from the vets'.  You know  
that you are not alone in your pain.  I doubt that is overly helpful  
at this minute but everyone who has been there knows how awful it is.   
And you have been there so often and given so very much to these  
wonderful little ones.  Please let your heart heal and expand to  
include more of them.  Street/pine thicket cats/kittens have such a  
hard time and, if they have any health problems they have little  
chance unless someone can put the pain on hold and love and care for  
them during the time they have.


May all the angels surround you.
On May 12, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Amy Dalgliesh wrote:

My Zman lost his fight today.  He is my 6th in the past 9 months.  I  
know that it is to be expected when you take in sickly street kids,  
but it doesn't help with the pain of losing any one of these  
wonderful creatures.  .


Zuckerman was a 2 week old kitten with a horrible URI when I found  
him.  He quickly became a momma's boy, going to work with me during  
the day and holding paws through the carrier door at night.


Once old enough to graduate from the carrier, he became quite the  
snuggler, curling up at my neck during the night.  He loved to  
suckle earlobes and would launch himself off a piece of furniture  
onto any unsuspecting person who happened by in order to attach  
himself to one.  I told him that he would have to stop because we  
couldn't have a 12 pound adult "catapulting" himself onto everyone.   
Guess I don't have to worry about that now, he was only 8 months old  
and less than 4 pounds at the end.


We were holding paws when he left.

It's been said before by all of us and unfortunately I know it will  
be said many more times, but I hate this freaking disease.




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Re: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away

2009-05-13 Thread Belinda Sauro
 She may need a transfusion if she is anemic, if it is bad enough 
and then she may need to be on epogen (procrit, or ansarep) both also 
choices for anemia.  Bailey was anemic and we turned it around with 
epogen and prednisolone.  She may also want to put her on doxocycline in 
case she has hemobartonella, a parasite that will cause anemia and is 
VERY hard to test for.  I personally will and have put a cat on doxy, 
especially a FeLV+ cat even if they test negative for it to be on the 
safe side, it won't hurt them if they don't have it but may save them if 
they test negative and do have it.  Bailey was on it for 5 weeks even 
though he tested negative several times.  We never did figure out what 
was causing his anemia but than goodness the epogen and pred. reversed it.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed

2009-05-13 Thread Lorrie
Amy, I am so sorry you lost Zman. We lost a 9 month old FelV kitten
a few mohths ago, and it is so awful to lose an especially sweet
cat when they are so young.  Thank you for holding paws when he
left you.  Our mitty died in our arms being loved til the end, but
it doesn't make it any easier to loose them.  We don't have guilt
about what we could/should have done for them, but the loss is just
as painful.

Lorrie

On 05-12, Amy Dalgliesh wrote:

> My Zman lost his fight today.? He is my 6th in the past 9 months.?
> I know that it is to be expected when you take in sickly street
> kids, but it doesn't help with the pain of losing any one of these
> wonderful creatures.? . ? Zuckerman was a 2 week old kitten with a
> horrible URI when I found him.? He quickly became a momma's boy,
> going to work with me during the day and holding paws through the
> carrier door at night. ? Once old enough to graduate from the
> carrier,?he became quite the?snuggler, curling up at my?neck during
> the night. ?He loved to suckle earlobes and would launch himself
> off a piece?of furniture onto any unsuspecting person?who happened
> by in order to attach himself to one.??I told him that he would
> have to stop because we couldn't have a 12 pound adult
> "catapulting" himself onto everyone.? Guess I don't have to worry
> about that now,?he was only 8 months old and less than?4 pounds at
> the end.?  ? We were holding paws when he left. ? It's been said
> before by all of us and unfortunately I know it will be said many
> more times, but?I hate this freaking disease.
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away

2009-05-13 Thread Kerry MacKenzie
Giselle, 
Leaving aside any other diagnosis, and given that you believe she hasn't drunk 
water for days, Pixie sounds at the very least dehydrated. I am NOT a vet but 
my advice is, arrange as fast as possible ---now--today---for her to be checked 
for dehydration and given fluids as necessary. Sub-cutaneous fluid will 
immediately help a dehydrated cat feel better in a way that mere drinking water 
cannot do. Second, find a responsive and supportive vet--a vet who understands 
that FeLV cats are not second-class cats. I would run a mile (and have done) in 
the opposite direction from one who is clearly so uncaring. Pixie and you 
deserve much better.  
 
(If she will need further  sub-Qs--hydration sessions-- get the (new) vet or 
vet's tech to show you how it's done--it's easy, and a good vet clinic will be 
happy to show you (that's how I learned--my vet pushed me into it, thank 
goodness).  It saves $$ and time and the stress on a cat of vet visits.)
Good luck. 
Kerry M.






From: G D 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 4:02:52 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away


Hi everyone,

Pixie is my best buddy and constant companion as I work from home. She's a 
4-year old female FeLV+. Last Thursday I went away for 5 days, leaving her home 
alone with a neighbor coming over for at least an hour each day to keep her 
company, feed wet food, brush, clean litterbox, etc. I returned from my trip 
yesterday and immediately knew something was wrong -- Pixie didn't come greet 
me and her dry food and water bowls were almost totally full (how I left them 
before leaving on Thursday).

The neighbor said Pixie didn't eat her wet food either. She is now much 
skinnier around the midsection/haunches and clearly weak. Straight away I 
syringe-fed her a wet food & water slurry before rushing over to the vet where 
the vet on duty found Pixie had lost over 1 lb (since she was last weighed in 
2007) and said her gums and eyes looked pale. The vet suggested Pixie might 
have nonregenerative anemia linked to bone marrow failure. 

She had some blood drawn, got weighed and had temperature taken but that's it. 
I'm waiting to hear the blood work results tomorrow. Vet didn't even recommend 
how to deal with the weight loss and probable dehydration. Didn't suggest 
x-rays either. This woman basically shrugged when I asked about courses of 
treatment (like, why bother?) for a FeLV cat who might have anemia. 

Bottom line: I'm terrified about Pixie and don't know what to do to help her 
recover. She's my second cat ever, and first cat I've been primary caregiver 
to. I feel guilty about going away at all last week, but she had been OK on 
previous occasions when I travelled. I've been syringe-feeding her slurries 
every 2 hours all day but she doesn't seem to be regaining strength and she's 
breathing faster than normal and I catch her staring blankly.

Any advice from you guys is much appreciated. 
Thanks,
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Re: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away

2009-05-13 Thread Laurieskatz
Can you find an ER vet? I am glad you are syringe feeding her. Are you able
to get into her the normal amount of food she would eat in a day? You might
want to join feline assisted feeding yahoo group. Cats can go into liver
failure after only 48 hours without their normal food intake. When my cats
have started the fast breathing it has been very serious. Normal BPM is
around 25. If she is having trouble breathing she may not want to eat. Good
luck. Pls keep us posted.
Laurie

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Hiromi Page
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 4:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away


Hello Giselle,

 

I took Puma (4 or 5-year old male FeLV+) to a vet for blood test one day.
Then, a several days later, he stopped eating.  He didn't eat for a couple
days.

His ears and gums looked pale.  He was breathing laboriously. My vet gave
him fluid and B12 shot.  Next day, he started to eat, and everything was
back to normal.

In my case, I believe that withdrawing the blood caused Puma to become sick
(He has severe anemia), so it may be a little different from Pixie's case,
but I would think that at least giving fluid would ease Pixie's current
condition.

 

Hiromi
 
> From: gisell...@hotmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:02:52 +
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away
> 
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Pixie is my best buddy and constant companion as I work from home. She's a
4-year old female FeLV+. Last Thursday I went away for 5 days, leaving her
home alone with a neighbor coming over for at least an hour each day to keep
her company, feed wet food, brush, clean litterbox, etc. I returned from my
trip yesterday and immediately knew something was wrong -- Pixie didn't come
greet me and her dry food and water bowls were almost totally full (how I
left them before leaving on Thursday).
> 
> The neighbor said Pixie didn't eat her wet food either. She is now much
skinnier around the midsection/haunches and clearly weak. Straight away I
syringe-fed her a wet food & water slurry before rushing over to the vet
where the vet on duty found Pixie had lost over 1 lb (since she was last
weighed in 2007) and said her gums and eyes looked pale. The vet suggested
Pixie might have nonregenerative anemia linked to bone marrow failure. 
> 
> She had some blood drawn, got weighed and had temperature taken but that's
it. I'm waiting to hear the blood work results tomorrow. Vet didn't even
recommend how to deal with the weight loss and probable dehydration. Didn't
suggest x-rays either. This woman basically shrugged when I asked about
courses of treatment (like, why bother?) for a FeLV cat who might have
anemia. 
> 
> Bottom line: I'm terrified about Pixie and don't know what to do to help
her recover. She's my second cat ever, and first cat I've been primary
caregiver to. I feel guilty about going away at all last week, but she had
been OK on previous occasions when I travelled. I've been syringe-feeding
her slurries every 2 hours all day but she doesn't seem to be regaining
strength and she's breathing faster than normal and I catch her staring
blankly.
> 
> Any advice from you guys is much appreciated. 
> Thanks,
> Giselle
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away

2009-05-13 Thread Hiromi Page

Hello Giselle,

 

I took Puma (4 or 5-year old male FeLV+) to a vet for blood test one day.  
Then, a several days later, he stopped eating.  He didn't eat for a couple days.

His ears and gums looked pale.  He was breathing laboriously. My vet gave him 
fluid and B12 shot.  Next day, he started to eat, and everything was back to 
normal.

In my case, I believe that withdrawing the blood caused Puma to become sick (He 
has severe anemia), so it may be a little different from Pixie's case, but I 
would think that at least giving fluid would ease Pixie's current condition.

 

Hiromi
 
> From: gisell...@hotmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:02:52 +
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away
> 
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Pixie is my best buddy and constant companion as I work from home. She's a 
> 4-year old female FeLV+. Last Thursday I went away for 5 days, leaving her 
> home alone with a neighbor coming over for at least an hour each day to keep 
> her company, feed wet food, brush, clean litterbox, etc. I returned from my 
> trip yesterday and immediately knew something was wrong -- Pixie didn't come 
> greet me and her dry food and water bowls were almost totally full (how I 
> left them before leaving on Thursday).
> 
> The neighbor said Pixie didn't eat her wet food either. She is now much 
> skinnier around the midsection/haunches and clearly weak. Straight away I 
> syringe-fed her a wet food & water slurry before rushing over to the vet 
> where the vet on duty found Pixie had lost over 1 lb (since she was last 
> weighed in 2007) and said her gums and eyes looked pale. The vet suggested 
> Pixie might have nonregenerative anemia linked to bone marrow failure. 
> 
> She had some blood drawn, got weighed and had temperature taken but that's 
> it. I'm waiting to hear the blood work results tomorrow. Vet didn't even 
> recommend how to deal with the weight loss and probable dehydration. Didn't 
> suggest x-rays either. This woman basically shrugged when I asked about 
> courses of treatment (like, why bother?) for a FeLV cat who might have 
> anemia. 
> 
> Bottom line: I'm terrified about Pixie and don't know what to do to help her 
> recover. She's my second cat ever, and first cat I've been primary caregiver 
> to. I feel guilty about going away at all last week, but she had been OK on 
> previous occasions when I travelled. I've been syringe-feeding her slurries 
> every 2 hours all day but she doesn't seem to be regaining strength and she's 
> breathing faster than normal and I catch her staring blankly.
> 
> Any advice from you guys is much appreciated. 
> Thanks,
> Giselle
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away

2009-05-13 Thread G D

Hi everyone,

Pixie is my best buddy and constant companion as I work from home. She's a 
4-year old female FeLV+. Last Thursday I went away for 5 days, leaving her home 
alone with a neighbor coming over for at least an hour each day to keep her 
company, feed wet food, brush, clean litterbox, etc. I returned from my trip 
yesterday and immediately knew something was wrong -- Pixie didn't come greet 
me and her dry food and water bowls were almost totally full (how I left them 
before leaving on Thursday).

The neighbor said Pixie didn't eat her wet food either. She is now much 
skinnier around the midsection/haunches and clearly weak. Straight away I 
syringe-fed her a wet food & water slurry before rushing over to the vet where 
the vet on duty found Pixie had lost over 1 lb (since she was last weighed in 
2007) and said her gums and eyes looked pale. The vet suggested Pixie might 
have nonregenerative anemia linked to bone marrow failure. 

She had some blood drawn, got weighed and had temperature taken but that's it. 
I'm waiting to hear the blood work results tomorrow. Vet didn't even recommend 
how to deal with the weight loss and probable dehydration. Didn't suggest 
x-rays either. This woman basically shrugged when I asked about courses of 
treatment (like, why bother?) for a FeLV cat who might have anemia. 

Bottom line: I'm terrified about Pixie and don't know what to do to help her 
recover. She's my second cat ever, and first cat I've been primary caregiver 
to. I feel guilty about going away at all last week, but she had been OK on 
previous occasions when I travelled. I've been syringe-feeding her slurries 
every 2 hours all day but she doesn't seem to be regaining strength and she's 
breathing faster than normal and I catch her staring blankly.

Any advice from you guys is much appreciated. 
Thanks,
Giselle





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Re: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed

2009-05-13 Thread Debbie Harrison

Amy, I am so sorrythis disease sucks.

Debbie (COL)
"The time is always right to do what is right" -  Martin Luther King


 
> Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:58:34 -0700
> From: ajdalgli...@yahoo.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed
> 
> My Zman lost his fight today.  He is my 6th in the past 9 months.  I know 
> that it is to be expected when you take in sickly street kids, but it doesn't 
> help with the pain of losing any one of these wonderful creatures.  .
>  
> Zuckerman was a 2 week old kitten with a horrible URI when I found him.  He 
> quickly became a momma's boy, going to work with me during the day and 
> holding paws through the carrier door at night.
>  
> Once old enough to graduate from the carrier, he became quite the snuggler, 
> curling up at my neck during the night.  He loved to suckle earlobes and 
> would launch himself off a piece of furniture onto any unsuspecting person 
> who happened by in order to attach himself to one.  I told him that he would 
> have to stop because we couldn't have a 12 pound adult "catapulting" himself 
> onto everyone.  Guess I don't have to worry about that now, he was only 8 
> months old and less than 4 pounds at the end.  
>  
> We were holding paws when he left.
>  
> It's been said before by all of us and unfortunately I know it will be said 
> many more times, but I hate this freaking disease.
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed

2009-05-13 Thread Laura Mostello

I am so sorry. It's been a week since Charlotte passed and she's the first 
thing I think about when I get up in the morning and the last thing I think 
about when I go to bed at night. 


--- On Tue, 5/12/09, Amy Dalgliesh  wrote:

> From: Amy Dalgliesh 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 5:58 PM
> My Zman lost his fight today.  He is my 6th in the past 9
> months.  I know that it is to be expected when you take in
> sickly street kids, but it doesn't help with the pain of
> losing any one of these wonderful creatures.  .
>  
> Zuckerman was a 2 week old kitten with a horrible URI when
> I found him.  He quickly became a momma's boy, going to
> work with me during the day and holding paws through the
> carrier door at night.
>  
> Once old enough to graduate from the carrier, he became
> quite the snuggler, curling up at my neck during the
> night.  He loved to suckle earlobes and would launch
> himself off a piece of furniture onto any unsuspecting
> person who happened by in order to attach himself to
> one.  I told him that he would have to stop because we
> couldn't have a 12 pound adult "catapulting"
> himself onto everyone.  Guess I don't have to worry
> about that now, he was only 8 months old and less than 4
> pounds at the end.  
>  
> We were holding paws when he left.
>  
> It's been said before by all of us and unfortunately I
> know it will be said many more times, but I hate this
> freaking disease.
> 
> 
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