Re: [Felvtalk] Here we go again!
Hi everyone, The list is running just fine. These kinds of bounces occur because of your email hosts. If it were an issue with the list, a lot more people would be experiencing the problem. This is not a Yahoo group or any other such forum. This mailing list program is caled Mailman, and it runs directly from the felineleukemia.org website. If Mailman receives too many bounces from an email account, it blocks it temporarily to avoid an overflow of continuing bounces back to it- which would otherwise clog up list resources. Again, either mailboxes are full or the email host misidentifies FeLVTalk messages as spam. You should contact your host and ask them make sure that our list mail is recognized as safe. I hope this information is helpful. Kind regards On 20 Nov 2015 at 6:01, Lee wrote: > About a year ago I also got a cluster of this nonsense although I > had not posted anything to the list in months. Although I am on a > couple of other cat lists, this one is the only one that turns > screwy and sends out this type of message. > > On Nov 19, 2015 5:19 PM, Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com> wrote: > > > > I get this *&^% about every three weeks. Really maddening. > > Is anyone else getting them? > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > rg James G Wilson - phaedru...@comcast.net http://weather62704.us (Weather for Springfield, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] ADMIN Re: Mail bounces
Hi Lorri, I'm sorry you and others are having problems with the FeLVTalk list mail. This error is an automatic response that is sent out when too many emails from the list are rejected by your ISP (Internet Service Provider). Frontier.net is one of the more temperamental ISPs. Do you have any other email accounts you could use for list mail? Since these messages are automated, I have no control over them. Please let me know if you have another email address that you can use for this list, and I will help you set it up. Again, I apologize for the inconvenience. James G Wilson - phaedru...@comcast.net http://weather62704.us (Weather for Springfield, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Testing the list
Hey all, Just testing the list. There hasn't been any traffic in awhile. Hope everyone and their little ones are doing well. Best wishes. James G Wilson - phaedru...@comcast.net (217) 816-8680 (cell) http://weather62704.us (Weather for Springfield, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol Study Article
Hi Amani, Kelley, and all, This list does not provide for posting pdf files or picture images (jpg, gif, png, etc). It is a text-based information resource with a limit of 20Kb of text per message. If your message to the group bounces, it is probably because you need to trim down the quoted materials from all of the previous messages that have been quoted in the thread. Please let me know if you have any questions about all of this. Amani, I found the article on Winstrol online at: http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.86.11.798 3 Everyone should be able to copy and paste it into their browsers to read it. Please let me know if there are any problems accessing the link from here. Kind regards. On 21 Sep 2015 at 18:54, Amani Oakley wrote: > Hi Kelley > > I have responded and attached an article but I don't see my post > coming through. It may be because of the article size, that there > may be a delay. I will watch and see if it goes through and try to > repost. > > Amani James G Wilson - phaedru...@att.net (217) 816-8680 (cell) http://weather62704.info (Weather for Springfield, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] general list issue
Hey all, Sorry for the delay. I have fixed both the 'reply-to' problem and the archive issue. New messages should have Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org as the reply-to address, and they should start showing up in the archive now. Lance, I am so sorry to hear about Ember... After seventeen years of doing this list, such news is still hard to read... Please let me know if there are any other issues that need taken care of. I will try to attend to them ASAP. Best wishes to everyone. James G Wilson - phaedru...@comcast.net http://felineleukemia.org (FeLV Support Site) http://weather62702.us (Weather for Springfield, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Testing - list is quiet
Hey all, I hope everyone is doing well. Just testing again since everything is a little too quiet. Please disregard. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Testing again to be sure the list is working
Hey all, Just sending a quick note to see if our webhost has fixed the mailing list issues. Please ignore this note. Hope all is well with everyone and their furries! Best wishes. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Testing.. no mail since Feb. 9th?
Hey all, I think there may be a problem with our server since there has been no mail since the 9th. I will be checking into this today as time permits. Sorry for the inconvenience. Kind regards. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] ADMIN: Please take the politics and other OT topics to appropriate lists
Hey all, I must reiterate that this list is for discussing FeLV, treatments, and support for caregivers. It is NOT a politics, hunting, personal soapbox, etc. list. We have a well-defined mission here to discuss FeLV. All of these other topics need to be taken to forums where such topics are discussed. I would hate to have to suspend this list because some want to ignore or bring their own interpretations into my gentle reminder about OT posting here. But, if suspending this list for a short time is the only way to stop the continuation of the off-topic chatter, I will have to do so. It is rude to continue these conversations after being asked to stop. Thank you for your consideration and cooperation. Kind regards. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] ADMIN: Too much OT posting
Hey all, Hope everyone is doing well. I have received a number of complaints privately about the amount of OT posting of late. There are a lot of people whose mailboxes simply cannot handle the volume of extraneous mail. Also, people should be respectful of the mission of this group and try to stay on topic as much as possible. Yes, OT posts once in awhile are ok. But, it has gotten a bit out of hand of late. So, please try to keep posts on topic again. Thank you all for your cooperation. After all, we are all here for our cats and for each other. Kind regards. James G. Wilson - FeLV list administrator phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Testing the list... too quiet
Hey all, Just testing the list since it's been so quiet. Hope this goes through ok. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] also not receiving emails
Hi everyone, List activity is pretty low (relative to what it has been in past years). Also, I think there are occasionally glitches with the free mail services (hotmail, yahoo, etc) where mail isn't always delivered in a timely way. If anyone feels they are missing any posts, please check the archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/felvtalk%40felineleukemia.or g/maillist.html Hope this helps, and sorry for any inconvenience. Best wishes to all. On 20 Jun 2012 at 21:26, czadna sacarawicz wrote: used to get emails daily but for last couple months get them rarely though have emailed James??. you and our beloveds are vital in my life cz James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] TNR
The maximum length of messages is set to 20Kb. So, I am not sure how a 30Kb one got through. I've added your other email address back. Let me know if there's anything else I can do. Kind regards. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] I guess the list is working again?
Hey all, I still have not heard back from our webhost regarding the glitch with the felvtalk mailing list. So, here's hoping that things are working again. I'll let everyone know as soon as I hear from the webhost. Best wishes to all! James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Testing the list
Hey everyone, I am just testing the list again. Our webhost moved our account to a new server earlier in the week. And, I haven't seen any traffic on here since then. I hope this goes through ok. And, I hope everyone is enjoying their weekend. Best wishes. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] testing
Hey all, Sorry for the extra mail. Just testing to be sure the list is working as it should. Haven't seen any traffic for a few days now. Hope all is well with everyone. Best wishes. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] testing the list again
Hello all, We seem to have had another glitch with the list. I hope that I have it fixed now. So, I am just sending out a test message to be sure. I hope everyone is doing well. Best wishes. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] ADMIN: Testing the list again
Hey all, Just testing the list again to be sure some new settings are working. They are measures to ensure that no spam or viruses make it through to the list. Please just ignore this note. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] ADMIN: Testing the list on the new host
Hello everyone, I am testing the list now that we have moved to a new webhosting service. Sorry for the interruption here. I am hoping that I have everything set up correctly now. If you still have any problems/questions/etc., please feel free to contact me privately. Best wishes to everyone! James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: Testing the list on the new host
On 8 Aug 2011 at 17:30, kathryn mundell wrote: Just a question for you - which host did you switch to - and why the switch?? We switched from DailyRazor to FusionHost.com because DailyRazor had become too unstable with so much traffic on each server. FusionHost is a little more expensive, but we get a lot more for it. Plus, they claim that their servers are never overloaded. DailyRazor ran really slow all the time because of their constant overloads. Hopefully, things are back to normal here. Best wishes. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Admin: Testing...
The list has been rather quiet. As mentioned before, I hope no news is good news. Also (in case you missed the announcement), we have a forum for folks who'd like to post in that format. It's at: http://felineleukemia.org/forums/ If you've subscribed, but I haven't confirmed you yet, please let me know privately. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] New Forum for the group
Hello everyone, Hope you all are enjoying this holiday season. By request, I've created a new web forum on the Felineleukemia.org website to supplement this mailing list. Feel free to browse the new forums and sign up at: http://felineleukemia.org/forums/ Also, please feel free to send me your questions and/or suggestions on how to improve this project as it goes forward. Some people don't like being on mailing lists, so this is an option for them. I'm hoping to add FeLVTalk mails as a posted section to the forums so that nobody misses out on anything. Here's hoping this project goes well :) Best wishes to all! James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New Forum for the group
On 28 Dec 2010 at 16:22, kathyko...@yahoo.com wrote: Is it possible to take me off the list? Thank you Yes. I removed Kathy. If anyone else would like to be removed or have their mail settings changed, please let me know. Best wishes. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude
Thanks Paola, I honestly thought he'd be around a year or so yet! His blood panel didnt show any signs of trouble so I was hopeful. Didnt know what I was gonna DO with him for a year, but that's a different story ;) (I have 4 cats so he was living in the basement). The tumor thing came out of no where and I wasnt expecting it. But hey I didnt know what to expect! Amazing how a little guy can touch your heart so fast! From: paola cresti iend...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, August 3, 2010 10:47:07 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude Hi Julie, I took in a stray that turned out to be FeLV+ at the same time you did (2 days before 4rth of July) so I really feel for you. My little Angel is doing ok for now, but when I first took him to the vet I was thinking he'd be lasting a month or so as well, and the feeling was terrible and wanted to give him the best time being as possible, not having to wonder where his next meal was coming from or run from other stray/feral cats in the area. Your little Dude had a little luck in the end. From: Julie G. kisluv...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, August 3, 2010 3:31:17 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude Hi I've been lurking a few weeks. In July I picked up a stray that turned out to be FELV+. In his few weeks with me he gained a pound, had a cushy bed, delicious premium canned food, and all the snuggles I had time to give him, since he lived in the basement while I tried to figure out where he could live (I have 4 cats). I'd watch movies on the laptop with him on my lap, snoozing away happily. He always seemed a little wobbly, and his pupils were always different sizes. But he was relatively happy so we kept on. Last night his back legs didnt work. This had happened before, my pet sitter said, but they always came back on after a while. But this morning they still didnt work. The vet examined and confirmed that he had tumors pressing on his spinal cord. He was in pain and his entire back end didn't do what he wanted it too. So the decision was made to let him go. He'd been living under porches on my block for at least a few months when we finally caught him. I'm so glad we did, I cant imagine what a frustrating, frightening life he'd be having out on the street right now, starving, full of tape worm, and 2 back legs that wont work. I'm crushed that we couldnt give him a better life, and for longer, but I'm glad we got to him when he needed us, and filled his belly and his heart for a few weeks. Safe and comfy and within a foot of food at all times. :) Anyway, I dont know anything about FELV, this was my first introduction to it... so I dont exactly know how the tumors are related (cancer?)... but I wanted to drop a line to folks who understand. He wasnt my kitty for long, but he was my kitty. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude
Oh boy thank you for the props. :) I'm so glad I didnt put him to sleep the moment they found out he was FELV. That was presented as an option, and I thought I at least have to go do some research, and give him some love and snuggles tonight if he really has to be put to sleep... but then he stayed a month. :) I have to wonder if the day we finally caught him (I'd tried a few times)... if that was a day his legs were off and that's why we were able to just go scoop him up from laying in the gutter. It sort of all comes together now. Anyway... Thanks for the love you guys have all sent It helps to have folks like you out there in the world who understand. Julie From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com hi Julie, He sure was your kitty, and always will be! What a heartache that you came to know him during his final weeks, but what a blessing for him - I can't imagine the anquish he would have felt suffering like that. I am sure he's in heaven now, but he surely thought he was in heaven the moment you took him in. It's a beautiful story and you are to be commended for helping him without even knowing much about the condition. I, too, have a stray who turned out to be positive so this story tugged at my heart. Bless you and your angel boy. Shannon --- On Tue, 8/3/10, Julie G. kisluv...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi I've been lurking a few weeks. In July I picked up a stray that turned out to be FELV+. In his few weeks with me he gained a pound, had a cushy bed, delicious premium canned food, and all the snuggles I had time to give him, since he lived in the basement while I tried to figure out where he could live (I have 4 cats). I'd watch movies on the laptop with him on my lap, snoozing away happily. He always seemed a little wobbly, and his pupils were always different sizes. But he was relatively happy so we kept on. Last night his back legs didnt work. This had happened before, my pet sitter said, but they always came back on after a while. But this morning they still didnt work. The vet examined and confirmed that he had tumors pressing on his spinal cord. He was in pain and his entire back end didn't do what he wanted it too. So the decision was made to let him go. He'd been living under porches on my block for at least a few months when we finally caught him. I'm so glad we did, I cant imagine what a frustrating, frightening life he'd be having out on the street right now, starving, full of tape worm, and 2 back legs that wont work. I'm crushed that we couldnt give him a better life, and for longer, but I'm glad we got to him when he needed us, and filled his belly and his heart for a few weeks. Safe and comfy and within a foot of food at all times. :) Anyway, I dont know anything about FELV, this was my first introduction to it... so I dont exactly know how the tumors are related (cancer?)... but I wanted to drop a line to folks who understand. He wasnt my kitty for long, but he was my kitty. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude
Thanks. That's what's getting me by too, knowing that had we not snatched him up last month, right now he'd be frustrated and scared, wondering how in the heck he was going to eat tonight since he couldnt make it up the stairs to the food dish on my neighbor's porch. I just cant imagine. He didnt get to stay long, but I hope he had a good time at the Motel Julie. ;) ~Julie From: Chris ti...@mindspring.com Good for you for giving this little guy some good times at the end of his life. Had you not been there for him, he would have suffered so much out there. No matter what happened to him in the first part of his life, he got to know love and caring and the good life he so deserved. Thank you so much for doing that for him... Christiane Biagi -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Hi I've been lurking a few weeks. In July I picked up a stray that turned out to be FELV+. In his few weeks with me he gained a pound, had a cushy bed, delicious premium canned food, and all the snuggles I had time to give him, since he lived in the basement while I tried to figure out where he could live (I have 4 cats). I'd watch movies on the laptop with him on my lap, snoozing away happily. He always seemed a little wobbly, and his pupils were always different sizes. But he was relatively happy so we kept on. Last night his back legs didnt work. This had happened before, my pet sitter said, but they always came back on after a while. But this morning they still didnt work. The vet examined and confirmed that he had tumors pressing on his spinal cord. He was in pain and his entire back end didn't do what he wanted it too. So the decision was made to let him go. He'd been living under porches on my block for at least a few months when we finally caught him. I'm so glad we did, I cant imagine what a frustrating, frightening life he'd be having out on the street right now, starving, full of tape worm, and 2 back legs that wont work. I'm crushed that we couldnt give him a better life, and for longer, but I'm glad we got to him when he needed us, and filled his belly and his heart for a few weeks. Safe and comfy and within a foot of food at all times. :) Anyway, I dont know anything about FELV, this was my first introduction to it... so I dont exactly know how the tumors are related (cancer?)... but I wanted to drop a line to folks who understand. He wasnt my kitty for long, but he was my kitty. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude
Thanks Sharyl. I was hell bent that I was going to find him a home too. I was even trying to get some of my college kid neighbors to take him on, and I would sponsor his food and vet expenses. I mean I was paying for him anyway, I may as well pay for him to live in someone's house and not in my crummy basement room. But alas we didnt get that far. For a stray kitty, he sure was well behaved and lovey! Big goofball. I lit a candle for him on Gratefulness.org too. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/minicandle.cfm?l=engcid=11327741 His temporary name was Big Head. I guess it's the only one he got! :) From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, August 3, 2010 5:43:03 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude Julie, thank you for taking in Dude and giving him the love and attention he deserved. At least in the end he knew he was loved. We each do what we can to help the FeLV kitties but you took that extra step to help a stray who desperately needed you. Thanks to you he had a peaceful passing. Lighting a candle tonight for Dude. Sharyl --- On Tue, 8/3/10, Julie G. kisluv...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Julie G. kisluv...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Lost my FELV Stray dude To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 6:31 PM Hi I've been lurking a few weeks. In July I picked up a stray that turned out to be FELV+. In his few weeks with me he gained a pound, had a cushy bed, delicious premium canned food, and all the snuggles I had time to give him, since he lived in the basement while I tried to figure out where he could live (I have 4 cats). I'd watch movies on the laptop with him on my lap, snoozing away happily. He always seemed a little wobbly, and his pupils were always different sizes. But he was relatively happy so we kept on. Last night his back legs didnt work. This had happened before, my pet sitter said, but they always came back on after a while. But this morning they still didnt work. The vet examined and confirmed that he had tumors pressing on his spinal cord. He was in pain and his entire back end didn't do what he wanted it too. So the decision was made to let him go. He'd been living under porches on my block for at least a few months when we finally caught him. I'm so glad we did, I cant imagine what a frustrating, frightening life he'd be having out on the street right now, starving, full of tape worm, and 2 back legs that wont work. I'm crushed that we couldnt give him a better life, and for longer, but I'm glad we got to him when he needed us, and filled his belly and his heart for a few weeks. Safe and comfy and within a foot of food at all times. :) Anyway, I dont know anything about FELV, this was my first introduction to it... so I dont exactly know how the tumors are related (cancer?)... but I wanted to drop a line to folks who understand. He wasnt my kitty for long, but he was my kitty. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Second Chance Meows Sanctuary - THANK YOU!
Hi list, I just saw a post on the FeLV group list where someone was saying how depressing the posts on the FeLV list could be... I know much of the news seems to be sad, especially when cats pass on, but I wanted to post my heartfelt thanks to Michael and his family at Second Chance Meows for finding a spot in their home for my FeLV+ kitten Wisp. He responded to my posted plea a few weeks ago about finding a placement for my little 6 month old foster tabby girl who had just gotten her FeLV confirmation - second test. I was being pressured by other fostering friends to euthanize her and was resisting since she was currently so healthy, loving, and playful, except for a tendency toward constipation. I foster many many neonatal kittens each year for a So. Cal. rescue group, so it was imperative for the potential wellbeing and lives of so many other incoming kittens that I find a safe place for Wisp to live so as not unwittingly endanger my other fosters. I had her in the best quarantine I could manage, but everyone knows that kittens are both inquisitive and ingenious... so I knew it could be a big problem when they got to the climbing age. I had contacted a couple of other shelters, but they were just not a good fit for her for various reasons. I had just taken in 5 newborn kittens and was getting pretty desperate when I joined this group and googled for information and discovered Snowball's story. Well, to make a long story short, Michael agreed to take Wisp, and my husband and I, with Wisp in a large wire crate in the back seat, made the long trek from Ventura to Reno, via I-5 - about 9 or 10 hours of driving... some of it behind a snowplow and praying all the time that we could make it through in our old Subaru... without any snowchains onboard...we eventually arrived and Wisp received a warm welcome from Michael and his wife and one of their other FeLV+ cats. We stayed for over an hour and got to meet almost all the other kitties (one was a bit shy and out of sight) and see where Wisp would be living whatever days, months, or years that she will be allowed by her Creator and of course to talk to Michael and his family and watch him expertly assess our kitten. I just had a call from Michael and Wisp is having the time of her life. She doesn't have the run of the whole home yet, but what she does have even right now is one heck of a lot better than a 7 by 3 by 2 foot cage on sawhorses in my livingroom! Michael told us that the bowel issues are resolving and she is looking great and acting very happy. I miss her, but I KNOW this is the most perfect placement I could have found for her... a loving home with other FeLV+ cats she can socialize with and someone who is knowledgeable about FeLV+ and a family that will take care of her for as long as she lives. Thank you from the bottom of my heart - Michael, Char, and family! Sincerely, Georgetta (with 11 neonatal fosters - gotta go feed!) bye for now! _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Testing
Hey all, just testing the system since there hasn't been any posts for a few days. Hope everyone is doing well. Best wishes James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Newbie with FeLV kitten
Dear List, I haven't read too many of your list posts, but I ran onto one while googling for sanctuary options and wondered if somone on the list could provide me with more information about Snowball's placement in the Second Chance Meow in Reno. I have a 5-6 month old kitten who has been in my care (quarantined) since January 2. She was a mess when she arrived - very scared, skinny, dehydrated, bad case of mange, diarrhea, etc... She has tested positive with 2 different FeLV tests (Snap and a confirming test that the vet sent out for analysis). I foster bottle babies for a local (So. Calif.) rescue and this is my first FeLV + kitten in 6 years (and over 150 kittens) of fostering neonatals. I have spent many hours googling and reading about FeLV in cats, but have been unable to locate a sanctuary that will consider taking my little Wisp tabby girl. She has some special needs in that she has to have wet food mixed with water and Benefiber powder instead of free feeding kibble or she gets horribly plugged up bowels. I happened onto the post where one of your members (Laurie) found a sanctuary for Snowball at Second Chance Meow in Reno. Can Laurie or someone give me more information about it and possibly contact information/link to their website? Kitten season is beginning here and I can't safely quarantine Wisp for much longer. She is getting too big and active. I dread the thought of euth. but I can't risk the health of our 3 cats (former fosters) and I just got my first litter of 2010 - 5 10-day olds found in an attic. Little Wisp wants so badly to come out and play with the other cats - I need to find her a place where she can get the care she needs and hopefully have a few FeLV friends to play with. She is sweet and lively and pretty darn feisty now that she is feeling so good. Thank you in advance for any advice and/or information you can provide. Georgetta _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Lyttle Guy passed away
Lyttle Guy passed away in my arms at 4:18am this morning. He had series of seizures and then gasped his last breath. He was truly loved and shall be dearly missed James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] OT: Pleural Effusion
Hi everyone, Three months ago, my cat, LG, was first treated for fluid buildup in his lungs. He went nine weeks before needing to have that fluid drained again. Now, it seems that we are having it done every four or five days. LG is on prednisolone and Salix (diuretic to help slow the fluid buildup). The vet is calling what he has pleural effusion. Has anyone else here had this problem? Do you and/or your vets have any other suggestions about possible treatments for it? Once LG gets the fluid drained, he eats like crazy and is pretty much his old self. He is twelve and a half years old now. Thanks for any and all suggestions on this. Best wishes to all! James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Pleural Effusion
On 22 Jan 2010 at 18:15, Belinda Sauro wrote: Is he on any lasix or spirnolactone, he should be on one or both? He's on Salix- which is the same class of diuretic. Another member wrote off list about a combo of stuff that she used to get her young cat well after having the exact same symptoms. She said, We started him on antibotics (Zenaquin - .25 mg.), Interferon ( 1 Ml.) ,DMG ( 1ml), and Lysine (500 mg.) and 1/2 pred 2ml.). Mixed it all up in a needle-less syringe and squirited it in his mouth.I gave this to him for three weeks and he has never been sick again. Has anyone else here had luck with this combo? I hate to give him this much diuretic because it will have adverse effects on his kidneys :( Thanks again for any and all suggestions! James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] SPAM!
Hey all, It takes a pretty sad individual to go through the process of signing up to this group just to SPAM us... :( That person has been removed now. So, please don't bother responding to it. Sorry that this has to happen, but it is taken care of. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest
Thanks to everyone for the well wishes and suggestions on LG's chest fluid. Thankfully, he is not FeLV+. This fluid just seemed to come out of nowhere because he is so healthy otherwise. He is on prednisone and a diuretic (salix- 12.5mg). He is going to the litterbox about every three hours to pee now. He is eating, and I saw him drink some water just awhile ago. I was worried about how to pill LG because he is so stubborn about such things. The vet gave (sold!) me these treats called LeanTreats from NutriSentials. I was skeptical since LG is so finicky. I put the pills in the treat and squished it up and put it front of him. He sniffed it for a bit, licked it once and then acted like he was going to walk away. Then, he came right back and wolfed it down in one bite! I was shocked! :) So, he's getting his pills. I guess the main questions I have are these. How long before the fluid builds up again? He's on seven days straight of the pred and diuretic.. then it goes to every other day. I was given 20 pills each. He's breathing SO MUCH better today- no heavy breaths at all. Even after they drained the fluid yesterday, he was still breathing a bit heavy. But, that could have been the stress of it all too. I just want the best for him- a good quality of life for as long as he wants it... Thanks again for everyone's assistance. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
MC, Belinda and all, Yes, the archives are intact. They are on a separate server, so they weren't affected by the issues we had back in July of '08. Belinda, I typed in Acemannan just to be sure. Here's the url: http://www.mail- archive.com/search?q=acemannanl=felvt...@felineleuk emia.org I hope that helps. We too are keeping fingers and paws crossed for Fred. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest
Hey all, Sorry for the off-topic post. But, my male cat, LG, is sick. Took him to the vet this morning because he wasn't breathing right. He had 288cc's of fluid built up around his heart and lungs :( :( :( They drained the fluid, and his color came back almost immediately. He's on prednisone and a diuretic to help curb the fluid buildup... Unfortunately, there were lots of leukocytes in the fluid which means a great chance of lymphatic cancer :( :( :( The prednisone is giving him his appetite back at least. He hadn't eaten in two days now... And, he was already too thin. Does anyone here have any experience with all of this? LG is twelve years old and quite healthy otherwise. Thanks for any and all assistance. Best wishes to everyone! James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list
Hey all, I'm just testing the list since there hasn't been any activity since Monday. I hope no news is good news for everyone here. Please let me know if you're having any problems with the list. I'm always happy to assist. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Life without Pixie
Hi everyone. I really, really appreciate the support and wisdom this group has provided over the last 3 years -- when strange things were happening (frothy clear vomit, a non-dilating pupil) and I didn't know what to do, and especially during the scary and sad days surrounding Pixie's death. This listserv is an example of the internet at its finest, bringing together a warm virtual community of FeLV cat guardians from across the globe. You gave me the courage to adopt FeLV+ Pixie in the first place, when I was only a foster parent to her and had no previous experience with + cats. It's been two weeks without Pixie. Grief feels like a private hell but apparently I'm going through all the normal stages. I was in bad shape when I went to pick up her ashes and the woman at the crematorium asked if Pixie had lived a long life. I could barely reply that she was still a baby when this disease snatched her. But once I got her urn home and put it on the mantle, which was one of her favorite places to perch, I felt strangely relieved: the awful business of deterioration, dying and death was over. I attached her collar tag to my keys (the jingling sound of which made Pixie come running from any corner of the house in the hope she'd get to go outside). I miss her 100 times day. I'm comforted to know that many of you have survived the loss of a beloved cat and have eventually come to love new cats. Onwards and upwards, Giselle _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Pixie is a fluffy orange angel
It is with profound sadness that I share that my sweet baby Pixie Katzenellenbogan passed away yesterday evening. She was euthanized by a gentle and sympathetic vet while I stroked and talked to her. I told her she was deeply loved. Yesterday I got second and third opinions from vets I felt were genuinely interested in Pixie (unlike the apathetic first vet) and it was terrible news all around (see the bloodwork analysis below). In the last two days she deteriorated quickly before my eyes despite the regimen of syringe-administered diluted wet food prescribed by the vet. Her breathing had become increasingly fast and shallow (a vet explained she was gasping for oxygen due to the anemia). She was crying out in pain, even while lying still, too weak to stand up or walk, and staring blankly. It was heartbreaking to see her suffering. Things she once enjoyed held no interest (favorite stinky foods, lying in a sunbeam, toys, going out in the yard, being brushed). I emailed the lab results from Pixie's bloodwork to a friend who's a vet in Canada and her analysis was: There are a couple of things on her bloodwork that are alarming. First of all, she is very anemic (ie very low red blood cell count). In conjunction with what's going on with her high white blood cell count and platelets though, I'm less concerned about the anemia itself and more concerned about an actual leukemia (ie cancer). Her red blood cells and platelets are both very low which indicates that the bone marrow is likely diseased and not producing them properly. On top of that, according to the written interpretation at the bottom, the red blood cells and platelets that do exist are all showing signs of immaturity- this means that they are not sticking around in the bone marrow long enough to mature completely because something (ie the leukemia that is pumping out cells) is taking up space in the bone marrow. Besides the changes in her CBC, some other parameters also point towards this diagnosis: her calcium level is elevated which is often seen in association with cancer and her CPK is high which might indicate muscle wasting. Muscle wasting is often also seen with cancer. I thought yesterday was hard (choosing to end Pixie's suffering helping her cross over) but today is even worse. Waking up with no Pixie at the foot of the bed, no Pixie meowing for her tuna, no Pixie scampering down the stairs. Seeing her things everywhere -- food bowls, toys, blankets, cat grass, scratching mats, the armchair she shredded, a brush full of orange fur -- is devastating. HOW can I possibly live here without her? Pixie was born in South Philadelphia in spring 2005, rescued from the streets during a snowstorm in February 2006, and came into my life in March 2006. She was a feisty little champ like Rocky. Pixie became a Dutch cat in August 2006 when we moved to the Netherlands (her permanent final home), flying Northwest so I could bring her in the cabin, tucking her carrier under the seat in front of me, and carrying a pop-up make-shift litterbox, food, water, vet documents, and Rescue Remedy. She was the perfect companion. _ Hotmail® goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Mobile1_052009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away
Hi everyone, Pixie is my best buddy and constant companion as I work from home. She's a 4-year old female FeLV+. Last Thursday I went away for 5 days, leaving her home alone with a neighbor coming over for at least an hour each day to keep her company, feed wet food, brush, clean litterbox, etc. I returned from my trip yesterday and immediately knew something was wrong -- Pixie didn't come greet me and her dry food and water bowls were almost totally full (how I left them before leaving on Thursday). The neighbor said Pixie didn't eat her wet food either. She is now much skinnier around the midsection/haunches and clearly weak. Straight away I syringe-fed her a wet food water slurry before rushing over to the vet where the vet on duty found Pixie had lost over 1 lb (since she was last weighed in 2007) and said her gums and eyes looked pale. The vet suggested Pixie might have nonregenerative anemia linked to bone marrow failure. She had some blood drawn, got weighed and had temperature taken but that's it. I'm waiting to hear the blood work results tomorrow. Vet didn't even recommend how to deal with the weight loss and probable dehydration. Didn't suggest x-rays either. This woman basically shrugged when I asked about courses of treatment (like, why bother?) for a FeLV cat who might have anemia. Bottom line: I'm terrified about Pixie and don't know what to do to help her recover. She's my second cat ever, and first cat I've been primary caregiver to. I feel guilty about going away at all last week, but she had been OK on previous occasions when I travelled. I've been syringe-feeding her slurries every 2 hours all day but she doesn't seem to be regaining strength and she's breathing faster than normal and I catch her staring blankly. Any advice from you guys is much appreciated. Thanks, Giselle _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage1_052009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Has anyone here used Vetricine for immune boosting
Yup, I agree...sounds like a reasonable protocol to try. Gloria At 07:59 PM 4/14/2009, you wrote: I noticed when we were giving MeMe interferon daily that she became lethargic and slept a lot. We are now alternating one day on and one day off and I think that is working very well. I would tend to believe your cat before your vet. Jane On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:34 PM, souther...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/14/2009 5:55:11 PM Central Daylight Time, gbl...@aristotle.net writes: If it were making one of my cats sick, I'd probably just lower the dose, but that's just a gut reaction. Might discuss it with the vet, of course, or research it a bit. well, I did. My vet just insists that it can't be what is causing him to be sick on those days. He swears it must be a coincidence but it happens EVERY TIME, after about 3 days of interferon. He says it just doesn't make them sick. Sidney ** Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html? ncid=emlcntusdown0002) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Has anyone here used Vetricine for immune boosting
Yup, I agree...sounds like a reasonable protocol to try. Gloria At 07:59 PM 4/14/2009, you wrote: I noticed when we were giving MeMe interferon daily that she became lethargic and slept a lot. We are now alternating one day on and one day off and I think that is working very well. I would tend to believe your cat before your vet. Jane On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:34 PM, souther...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/14/2009 5:55:11 PM Central Daylight Time, gbl...@aristotle.net writes: If it were making one of my cats sick, I'd probably just lower the dose, but that's just a gut reaction. Might discuss it with the vet, of course, or research it a bit. well, I did. My vet just insists that it can't be what is causing him to be sick on those days. He swears it must be a coincidence but it happens EVERY TIME, after about 3 days of interferon. He says it just doesn't make them sick. Sidney ** Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html? ncid=emlcntusdown0002) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Fwd: New to the list, would like some advice!
From:avia.rausc...@gmail.com Subject: New to the list, would like some advice! - Hello! I'll try to make the history brief but clear (not always easy for me), we adopted a kitten from ACC here in NYC in July 2007 to keep our cranky, one and a half year old, only cat Onyx company. The kitten (Cinder) was 9 weeks old and tested negative at adoption for FeLV. We added a third cat (Horus) from a rescue group that October (tested negative after adoption, the rescue group said he was negative, but there was no record of testing with his paperwork), and this past October added a tamed feral (Blackie) to the mix (kept separate from the other three until she was medically cleared and tested negative). On January 12, 2009 our darling little Cinder was diagnosed with lymphoma after an extremely sudden decline (fine on Friday, heavy breathing, not eating/drinking, hiding under the bed Sunday night) at one year and eight months of age. I took her to the vet first thing Monday morning, and after xrays and an ultrasound found her chest so full of fluid she couldn't breathe and a massive tumor in her liver, we made the decision to let her go rather than tormenting her with treatment to make ourselves feel better. The postmortem tests revealed that Cinder had FeLV. We were in shock and couldn't believe how quickly she got sick! Onyx is a three year old persian, Horus is a five year old mix (Siberian/Maine Coon?) and Blackie is a dsh. Onyx and Blackie have been the picture of health, Horus was diagnosed with asthma almost a year ago and is on Flovent twice a day. After waiting the recommended two months, I had the other three tested this past Thursday. Horus and Blackie are negative, but Onyx came up positive. Yesterday, I had Horus Blackie vaccinated, and the IFA test results for Onyx will be back in about a week. For now I have some questions that maybe some of you can answer: 1. My vet said no booster was necessary for the vaccinated cats, yet I see many references here to 30 day boosters - should I ask again or insist on the boosters? 2. The vet said to separate my kitties, but I can't stand the idea of locking Onyx up. From what I read, most of you seem to mix your positive and negative-vaccinated kitties, so am I being awful by not separating them? They say low stress environment, but Onyx likes to roam the apartment and it seems like it would be very stressful for her to be confined. 3. I feed my kitties Weruva canned and California Natural dry. I was thinking about supplementing with a vitamin like Nupro. Any suggestions in that department? Onyx is very picky, and it has been difficult to find foods that she will eat that don't upset her tummy. I guess that's it for now, any advice anyone can give will be most appreciated!! Avia === James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (MySpace) http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone else on Facebook?
Yep, I'm on FB as well. Search for James G Wilson. I'm the one with the big red beard that's going grey... Or, it might be easier to find me in Belinda Sauro's friend list :) Hope to see all of you there. Best wishes. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (MySpace) http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV vaccine for FelV positive cats?
Well, not exactly - what actually happened was I obtained 2 cats from a lady in Oklahoma, and she was a vet tech. She knew they were FELV positive, and had them for several years. HER VET (not mine) had vaccinated them for FELV regularly, and believed that it was helpful to FELV cats. I took the cats (here in Arkansas) when she had a family problem and couldn't keep the cats. I have not continued the FELV vaccinations. The cats are fine. Actually we took 4 cats - kind of long story, but they first went to a rescue in Missouri, for a few weeks, and then we got them in Arkansas. One cat died (fatty liver - hepatic lipidosis, as I recall). Another cat died after I was gone on vacation for 2 weeks (stress perhaps?). The other two remaining cats have continued to prosper. I haven't had them tested or vaccinated since I got them.I've had them for a few years, have to check when I got them. Gloria At 03:33 PM 2/19/2009, you wrote: Hi, Gloria, Let me get this straightYour vet vaccinated FelV positive cats with the FelV vaccine to deal with FelV. I understood that once a cat was FelV positive the vaccine was not going to change it's status, and the cat would still remain positive. Does anyone else know anything about this? Lorrie On 02-19, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: Sorry, didn't see your message till today. I've had 10 or 15 FELV cats over the last 6 years. I have 5 now. Two of the current cats, Oliver and Chloe, came from a lady in Oklahoma who had to give them up because of family problems. Her vet there vaccinated them regularly against FELV, as a way to deal with the FELV. I'd never heard of that, always believed that was not appropriate. HOWEVER - these are the only FELV cats I've had that live beyond 10 years old. Go figure. had that live beyond 10 years old. Go figure. Anyhow - I also have a friend with 1 FELV and 1 non-FELV cat who are great buddies, had them since they were kittens. She's kept the FELV cat on interferon daily, and they're doing great - now beyond 4 years old, no problems. She's had them tested once or twice - the FELV- cat stays negative. Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV vaccine for FelV positive cats?
Well, not exactly - what actually happened was I obtained 2 cats from a lady in Oklahoma, and she was a vet tech. She knew they were FELV positive, and had them for several years. HER VET (not mine) had vaccinated them for FELV regularly, and believed that it was helpful to FELV cats. I took the cats (here in Arkansas) when she had a family problem and couldn't keep the cats. I have not continued the FELV vaccinations. The cats are fine. Actually we took 4 cats - kind of long story, but they first went to a rescue in Missouri, for a few weeks, and then we got them in Arkansas. One cat died (fatty liver - hepatic lipidosis, as I recall). Another cat died after I was gone on vacation for 2 weeks (stress perhaps?). The other two remaining cats have continued to prosper. I haven't had them tested or vaccinated since I got them.I've had them for a few years, have to check when I got them. Gloria At 03:33 PM 2/19/2009, you wrote: Hi, Gloria, Let me get this straightYour vet vaccinated FelV positive cats with the FelV vaccine to deal with FelV. I understood that once a cat was FelV positive the vaccine was not going to change it's status, and the cat would still remain positive. Does anyone else know anything about this? Lorrie On 02-19, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: Sorry, didn't see your message till today. I've had 10 or 15 FELV cats over the last 6 years. I have 5 now. Two of the current cats, Oliver and Chloe, came from a lady in Oklahoma who had to give them up because of family problems. Her vet there vaccinated them regularly against FELV, as a way to deal with the FELV. I'd never heard of that, always believed that was not appropriate. HOWEVER - these are the only FELV cats I've had that live beyond 10 years old. Go figure. had that live beyond 10 years old. Go figure. Anyhow - I also have a friend with 1 FELV and 1 non-FELV cat who are great buddies, had them since they were kittens. She's kept the FELV cat on interferon daily, and they're doing great - now beyond 4 years old, no problems. She's had them tested once or twice - the FELV- cat stays negative. Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] testing the list
Hey all, Just testing the list since there's been no activity since Saturday. Here's hoping that everyone is doing well. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] (Fwd) Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat
--- Forwarded message follows --- From: Jennifer Dykhouse redg...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org Subject:Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat Date sent: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:17:45 -0500 Hello everyone, I thought I'd let you know how the blood transfusion helped/didn't help my Felv+ cat, so that if you need to reach that decision, you can see my example. The day before we did the blood transfusion, Mr. Darcy's hematocrit count was at 7 (I was told that 30 is the lowest you can be and still be healthy). He was extremely lethargic and as a result would eat. He lost 2 pounds in a month (even with us assist feeding him) and he was starting to catch a respiratory bug. Right after the transfusion, which cost 800 dollars and took about 5 hours, his hematocrit was at 17. That's great, but I am upset. I was thinking he'd be brought up to a healthy level, not just a slightly better level. He had perked up and he is eating turkey baby food now, but he still is extremely tired and now he has balance troubles. What I am most upset with was the lack of information from my vet and the animal hospital. When told about the blood transfusion by my normal vet, she made it sound like he'd be back at a healthy level and that it could work for months and that it was perfectly safe. When we were handing him over to the vet at the hospital, he finally told me that Mr. Darcy could die during the procedure and that it may only last a few hours, days. I am furious. It makes me feel like money is more important then informing the owner. I have decided to not do any more transfusions due to the fact that he's in the last stage of his illness and going to the vet really stresses him out. He won't eat for the rest of the day and since the transfusion may only give him days, I would rather have him enjoy his last days/weeks. So right now, we're at the point where the most we can do is get him to eat and sleep and to pet him and love him as much as we can. Now, your cat may have a different experience, but I just wanted to tell my story. Jennifer and Mr. Darcy __ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] ADMIN: bouncing mail
Hey everyone, There have been a number of 'bounced' messages to the list lately. This is because the messages exceed size limits for the list. Please remember to trim your messages to only what is relevant to your responses. There is no need to quote whole messages (and whole threads) when responding. I know that this is a 'default setting' on many email programs. So, please take a moment to remove unnecessary quoted material from the end of your replies. Feel free to contact me privately if you need assistance in learning how to do this with your particular mail program. Sorry if this message comes across as mean. I certainly don't intend it to be so. Take care, and best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] ADMIN: test
Hey all, this is just another test. Our host server is having problems again :( I'm going to request that we be moved to a server that isn't being overused... Sorry for the inconvenience. We should be back up to speed soon. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing
Hey all, Haven't seen any activity on the list for a couple of days. So, I'm testing the list. Hope all is well with everyone. Best wishes. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] please remove me from mailing list...
Hello all, If anyone else needs assistance on changing preferences (digest mode, no mail, etc.) or if they want to leave the list altogether, please write to me privately at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm here to help. Best wishes. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] ADMIN: Gentle reminder about netiquette
Hello everyone, I apologize in advance for making this message longer than I'd first thought... Now that our list appears to be back up and running properly, I think it's time to send out a gentle reminder about netiquette and what this list's mission is. First, remember that this list is for discussions of feline leukemia, related treatments and support for those who are dealing with this dreaded disease. We do, however, allow a bit of off-topic discussion because of the close-knit nature of this group of wonderful people. If you do plan to post something that is off-topic (but, hopefully, somehow related to FeLV and/or list members), remember to put 'OT' (without the quotes) at the beginning of the subject line. Next, remember to properly edit your emails to this list. Lately, folks have been posting messages that contain the complete text of the entire thread to which they are responding. This is causing problems with both the digest mode and email size limits for this list. So, please edit your messages to contain only the relevant text of previous emails. If you need assistance with this, please contact me privately, and I'll try to explain it further. Also, attachments are NOT allowed. That means, do not attach pictures, pdf files, Word document files, Excel files, etc. I will not forward such messages to the list. Lastly, due to the nature of this disease and its effects on our furry friends, there is a potential for passionate debates every now and then. While this may be healthy in a general sense, please try to observe the following rules: No flaming- ie; no personal attacks, hostile language, personal threats, etc., No posting messages that proclaim a, my way or the highway type of rhetoric. We are a diverse group of people with varying opinions on which treatment options work best for our loved ones. Some here believe that certain treatment options are not viable (or are simply hokum) while others swear by a particular treatment. Some here believe in mixing positives and negatives while others say that it shouldn't happen at all. Even if you adamantly disagree with another list member's point of view, please be respectful and sensitive to their right to their opinions. Members are free to share their opinions, but they are not permitted to badger others into submission. It is my hope that this message will serve as a general guideline to posting to FeLVTalk. If I've forgotten something, or if you disagree with the content of this note, please contact me PRIVATELY to discuss it further. Please do not try to create a controversy on the list about all of this. Thank you. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Attn: AOL users
Attn: AOL users Someone with an AOL account has accused our mailing list of sending SPAM. I suspect that they simply want to leave the list but do not know how. Please either contact me directly, or use this link: http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleuk emia.org If this happens again, I'll have no choice but to remove ALL AOL users from this list. This is an extremely urgent matter. Regards. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immune Modulator
Hey all, Has anyone used Lymphocyte T-Cell Immune Modulator for treating FeLV? I just added it to the FeLV site after reading about it at Wikipedia. The info from there can be found at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feline_leukemia_virus#Treatme nt_Options Are there other treatments that we have not listed on the site? If so, please send me the information privately along with any documentation of its effectiveness. Kind regards to all. ps: Thanks to all who've donated to this project. Your generosity is much appreciated. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design
On 17 Jul 2008 at 16:18, Gloria Lane wrote: It does load up faster, James - is that because of the new server or hosting co, or what? It's a combination of the new host service and the new design. I'm still in shock that folks hadn't told me earlier that the old design was so bad... At least it's fixed now, and the links and info are updated. Again, if anyone has more information and/or comments about the site, please let me know. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design
On 17 Jul 2008 at 17:01, Marylyn wrote: Is there a mailing address for those of us who don't do credit cards? Thanks for reminding me. I've added my mailing address to the donations page. Here it is: James G Wilson 436 W Union St. Lot# 8 Edwardsville, IL 62025-1476 Thanks again to all who've donated. It is truly appreciated. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Admin: New website design
Hey all, I've finally gotten around to updating our FeLV website (with Belinda's help). You can check it out at: http://www.felineleukemia.org I hope that it is easier to read and loads a bit faster. If anyone wishes to help update the content of the site, please let me and/or Belinda know privately. Reluctantly, I've added a donations page to the site to help offset my out-of-pocket costs for maintaining the site. Best wishes. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design
Thanks, Sharyl. It was a typo on my part on the FeLV FAQ. It has been corrected :) I know that there is still an issue with the fonts on that page, and I hope to have it corrected soon. Best wishes. ps: I have a MySpace page if others on this list are interested in joining it. Belinda, MC and Davy are already there :) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Admin: Working on the bugs
Hey all, I am (again) working on getting the bugs fixed with the FeLV project- especially the mail program. I bought us our own server, so things should be back to normal in the next two days or so. Again, I apologize for all of the inconvenience during the past two months. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Kind regards. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] =Admin: Working on the bugs
Hey all, I am (again) working on getting the bugs fixed with the FeLV project- especially the mail program. I bought us our own server, so things should be back to normal in the next two days or so. Again, I apologize for all of the inconvenience during the past two months. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Kind regards. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Fwd: failure notice
Hi Tonya, There are technical issues still going on with everything. Certain hubs on the net have not updated their nameserver systems since before Memorial Day. And, that's about the time we switched web hosts. That's why it is sometimes impossible to reach felinelekemia.org. Plus, I just read that Yahoo!'s mail servers have some issues going on with them, as well. My apologies for the continued inconvenience. As soon as I find another job, I'm going to put felineleukemia.org on its own server. Please let me know if y'all have any problems/questions/etc. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.3partharmony.com (3PartHarmony Productions) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) http://wx.3partharmony.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
ADMIN: List back up?
Hello everyone, Our webhost has been down for the past three days. But, they say we're back up and running. Let's hope so! James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.3partharmony.com (3PartHarmony Productions) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) http://wx.3partharmony.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Reply-to fixed --- again :)
Hey all, I forgot to reset the Reply-to function again. It's fixed now (I hope). Sorry for the extra mail. Best regards. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.3partharmony.com (3PartHarmony Productions) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) http://wx.3partharmony.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Testing the list...
Hey all, I'm testing the list because it's been too quiet of late. My apologies for the disruption earlier this week. Kindest regards. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.3partharmony.com (3PartHarmony Productions) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) http://wx.3partharmony.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Passwords
Hey all, sorry I forgot to mention that everyone has a new password now that we're on a new server. Just go to the link at the very end of this message and follow the instructions on how to retrieve your passwords. Again, I apologize for all of the confusion. Hopefully, things will be back to normal soon. Best regards. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.3partharmony.com (3PartHarmony Productions) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) http://wx.3partharmony.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Passwords
On 15 May 2008 at 15:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi do we need to subscribe again - I couldn't see anything about getting new passwords for already subscribed - but that might be just me. It's at the bottom of the page where it says, To unsubscribe from Felvtalk, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options enter your subscription email address: Sorry, I know it is confusing since it seems to imply that you want to unsubscribe. But, just put your email address in that box and follow the instructions on the next page for getting your password. Also, everyone is already re-subscribed to the list. So, y'all don't need to do anything special- unless you want to change your settings (digest, nomail, etc.). Please let me know if I can be of further assistance. Kind regards. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.3partharmony.com (3PartHarmony Productions) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) http://wx.3partharmony.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
ADMIN: Testing the list
Hello everyone, We've had some recent problems with our list host. So, I moved us to a more reliable service. For those who would like to change their setting for this list (digest, nomail, unsub, etc.), please follow this link: http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleuk emia.org Scroll all the way down to the bottom and enter your email address. You'll then be instructed on what to do next. If you have any questions/comments about all of this, please feel free to contact me directly at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll assist you as best I can. Take care, and best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.3partharmony.com (3PartHarmony Productions) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) http://wx.3partharmony.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: test
On 18 Apr 2008 at 16:37, Marylyn wrote: I got it but I have been told mine was bouncing too. I'm the list administrator, and I received the same message earlier today. Not sure what the problem was. Let's hope that it's fixed now. Please let me know if anyone has any further problems with the list. Regards. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.3partharmony.com (3PartHarmony Productions) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) http://wx.3partharmony.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL)
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Hello all, Sorry I wasn't on top of this issue sooner. I've had a houseguest. Anyway, both Susan and Michael have left the list. So, please everyone calm down and let's get back to the topic of this group- FeLV. We have some new members who may want to ask questions and/or introduce themselves. For the record, Belinda has my full confidence and authority to moderate this list. Hopefully, this will be the end of this nasty, off-topic nonsense. Take care and best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) http://wx.3partharmony.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL)
Re: Clear vomit in new home
Thanks for the advice Wendy and Kelley. The good news is that Pixie isn't vomiting anymore and seems generally healthy (no diarrhea, normal appetite and energy) so I haven't taken her in to the vet...yet. I adopted Pixie about 18 months ago back in Philadelphia and got her old vet records from the woman who rescued her but it doesn't look like Pixie was vaccinated for panleukopenia OR anything other than rabies! Is there a set of recommended vaccinations I should take her in for and anything particular for protecting sensitive FeLV immune systems? I live in the Netherlands where there are very few FeLV+ cats so I don't really trust my vet to know how to give Pixie the special treatment she deserves. This listserv is my best resource! I'm going to try to sterilize the floors in my new house in case the previous cats had infections that are still hanging around. Diluted bleach is safe to use right? I don't generally like using harsh chemicals around Pixie but the goal is to kill viruses here, I guess. Thanks again! Giselle Message: 6 Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:59:24 -0500 From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Clear vomit in new home To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Giselle, I would take the kitty in. It probably isn't panleuk if she has been vaccinated - but if she hasn't - she would need immediate and aggressive treatment in order to live. It isn't really something you can treat at home. Taking her in would also make you feel better.:) On 8/8/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Giselle, Welcome to our group! Like you, I read on the Internet that clear vomit is a symptom of panleukopenia, which can last in an environment at room temperature for a year! http://www.marvistavet.com/html/feline_distemper.html Is your kitty vaccinated for this disease? If not, I would take her in asap, just in case. Is she having diarrhea? I don't want to scare you, but because of the situation you described (new home with cats) and the fact that you just moved and your kitty is FeLV+, I would go ahead and take her in just to be safe. Please keep us posted on her progress Giselle. Prayers going out that this is nothing. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: G D [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2007 12:37:02 PM Subject: Clear vomit in new home Hi everyone, 8 days ago I moved with my felv+ cat Pixie into a new house across town. Pixie seems to be adjusting well to her new environment (and hasn't peed anywhere inappropriate so far, as she did at our old apt. while we were packing up). She is, however, vomiting clear liquid (sometimes with tiny yellow bits in it, maybe mucus?) every couple days, including last night and this morning. I've also noticed her hiccuping occasionally in her sleep. A brief Google search has me freaked out about feline distemper and/or this being the beginning of the end for my precious Pixie (who is about 2.5 y/o). She's still eating and drinking normally, although I wasn't adding L-lysine to her wet food as I normally do, just for the last few days while unpacking, and I gave her Rescue Remedy on move day and following day only. And she actually seems to be enjoying the new house (great views of a canal with ducks, trees with birds) and her energy level is normal. She's also sniffing every nook and cranny in this place with enthusiasm. I've got a Feliway (Comfort Zone) diffuser plugged in too. At first I thought she was just vomiting up Rescue Remedy (if that's even normal...). Do you think her immune system was compromised by the move (and the fact I wasn't giving her L-lysine)? Two indoor-outdoor cats lived in this house until a couple weeks ago, and a neighbor's cat frequently appears on the 2nd floor back terrace and it seems he left a turd there (either him or one of the two previous cats). Pixie never goes out there but is allowed to walk a few feet into the back garden when I'm out there. Is it possible she's picked up a virus or bacterial infection left by these previous cats or is breathing too much dust? Does she need to go to the vet? Thanks! Any advice is certainly appreciated! Giselle _ Puzzles, trivia teasers, word scrambles and more. Play for your chance to win! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_hotmailtextlink
Clear vomit in new home
Hi everyone, 8 days ago I moved with my felv+ cat Pixie into a new house across town. Pixie seems to be adjusting well to her new environment (and hasn't peed anywhere inappropriate so far, as she did at our old apt. while we were packing up). She is, however, vomiting clear liquid (sometimes with tiny yellow bits in it, maybe mucus?) every couple days, including last night and this morning. I've also noticed her hiccuping occasionally in her sleep. A brief Google search has me freaked out about feline distemper and/or this being the beginning of the end for my precious Pixie (who is about 2.5 y/o). She's still eating and drinking normally, although I wasn't adding L-lysine to her wet food as I normally do, just for the last few days while unpacking, and I gave her Rescue Remedy on move day and following day only. And she actually seems to be enjoying the new house (great views of a canal with ducks, trees with birds) and her energy level is normal. She's also sniffing every nook and cranny in this place with enthusiasm. I've got a Feliway (Comfort Zone) diffuser plugged in too. At first I thought she was just vomiting up Rescue Remedy (if that's even normal...). Do you think her immune system was compromised by the move (and the fact I wasn't giving her L-lysine)? Two indoor-outdoor cats lived in this house until a couple weeks ago, and a neighbor's cat frequently appears on the 2nd floor back terrace and it seems he left a turd there (either him or one of the two previous cats). Pixie never goes out there but is allowed to walk a few feet into the back garden when I'm out there. Is it possible she's picked up a virus or bacterial infection left by these previous cats or is breathing too much dust? Does she need to go to the vet? Thanks! Any advice is certainly appreciated! Giselle _ Booking a flight? Know when to buy with airfare predictions on MSN Travel. http://travel.msn.com/Articles/aboutfarecast.aspxocid=T001MSN25A07001
RE: Technical issues with FeLV/does anyone know the moderatorpersonally?
Hi Wendy and all, Sorry to take so long to respond to this concern. As has been posted, my health isn't that good. It's not bad, but it's not good either. When there are problems between list members, I tend to wait and let folks work it out for themselves (unless it turns into a flame war, of course). And, over the nearly ten years of running this list, I've only had to ban five people for continuing to cause trouble. This is a good list with good folk who are trying to care for their FeLV+ cats. There maybe differences of opinion on certain topics, but as long as everyone is respectful of others' opinions, all is well. Wendy, as to the problem with your Yahoo account, I'm not sure what to say other than Yahoo has had a lot of problems lately. They are testing various methods of SPAM control, so we are an occasional casualty. Also, I didn't receive your previous emails asking for assistance because the felvtalk-owner account is deluged with SPAM (several hundred per day now). If anyone needs me for anything, please keep my personal email address handy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best wishes to everyone. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org
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from Dede: Hi everybody, I'm having my friend Missy write this for me. You wanted to know about Scooter, the FeLV positive cat at Jax HS. Yesterday (Thursday 4/12) they finished the forensics and they accounted for 68 cats. Scooter was not among them. There were four FeLV positive cats at the shelter. The week before the fire, three were moved out of the building. Scooter tested negative and was moved in with the other cats. When the fire broke out, he was in an area where the firemen first entered. When they began breaking windows and tearing down doors, they threw open all of those cages. The other cats that survived were in this area. All I can tell you is that Scooter's body was not found...so there's still hope. They think he escaped to the 14 acre woods next to the HS. He and one other cat are unaccounted for. The grey cat they found last week turned out to be white after they washed him! His name is Casper, and he was a nasty fellow and now he is a lap bunny. They are joking and saying there's nothing like losing 8 of your 9 lives to get a different perspective. My computer is off, and the furniture is ready to go (went Friday 4/13)! Cats and us go on the 21st. Take care, everyone. Dede and Ki
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Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Maybe she should try petting him and comforting him, if this seems like a really distressed crying sort of thing. Is there dry food and water down at night, so he knows he isn't going to go hungry? A bedtime snack could help too -- canned food, a little shredded chicken or canned tuna, some kind of treat to settle him for the night. Might be worth wearing him out a little earlier in the evening -- one of those trackball toys or a laser light, throw in some catnip. He needs a little adjustment time, and some spoiling to welcome him to his new home. Maybe a few days, with ear plugs for the adopter? Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV.
Re: OT:need input: weakness in front legs
Hideyo, I'm not familiar with that - my only thought was to check the gums and see if he seems anemic... Gloria At 12:12 PM 2/14/2007, you wrote: Hi, I wanted to ask if anyone knows anything about the cause of weakness of front legs it happened rather acute like, his front leg ankle cannot seem to bend outward, and it does inward therefore, he cannot sit up and has to lay on the side way all the time.. but he is very alert, and not in pain.. he does have feeling on all legs (not paralyzed or anything) and his hid legs seem to be fine.. the vet and I area not sure what to make out of it we ruled out FIP any idea? Any insight is appreciated.
Re: OT:need input: weakness in front legs
Hideyo, I'm not familiar with that - my only thought was to check the gums and see if he seems anemic... Gloria At 12:12 PM 2/14/2007, you wrote: Hi, I wanted to ask if anyone knows anything about the cause of weakness of front legs it happened rather acute like, his front leg ankle cannot seem to bend outward, and it does inward therefore, he cannot sit up and has to lay on the side way all the time.. but he is very alert, and not in pain.. he does have feeling on all legs (not paralyzed or anything) and his hid legs seem to be fine.. the vet and I area not sure what to make out of it we ruled out FIP any idea? Any insight is appreciated.
Re: Midnight still peeing
Hmm - possible he's still smelling the pee on the comforter. Might try something to deorderize it, and try Cat Attract cat litter in the litter box. Gloria At 03:09 PM 2/14/2007, you wrote: Ok, Midnight has been fixed and is done with his antibiotics for the UTI. He is still peeing but only on my 5 year old comforter. My son is in pull ups at night. Is it possible that he is trying to mark over the scent of my son? That is the only thing I can think of. I am keeping the door closed and not letting midnight in that room. Thanks in advance! Jennifer
Re: Midnight still peeing
Hmm - possible he's still smelling the pee on the comforter. Might try something to deorderize it, and try Cat Attract cat litter in the litter box. Gloria At 03:09 PM 2/14/2007, you wrote: Ok, Midnight has been fixed and is done with his antibiotics for the UTI. He is still peeing but only on my 5 year old comforter. My son is in pull ups at night. Is it possible that he is trying to mark over the scent of my son? That is the only thing I can think of. I am keeping the door closed and not letting midnight in that room. Thanks in advance! Jennifer
Re: Big G at the bridge
Good thought coming for you and your kitty. I took care of several CRF kitties, know how hard it can be. Hugs, Gloria At 10:52 PM 2/10/2007, you wrote: My wonderful CRF kity is in a bad way. He did so well on fluids for 3 years and is over 20 years old, but he has a large lesion under his tongue and cannot eat. he is anemic,,,and it would be cruel to extend his suffering, He is on Buprenex now and is surrounded by warm rice socks and comfortable,,I gave him his fluids as that is a wonderful comfort measure. Please just send some good thoughts for us as this is the part of my rescue that is so very hard for me. but necessary ,,,Monday morning I shall hole him in my arms when he makes that final journey and once again becomes part of the universeas do we all, Kelly
Re: Big G at the bridge
Good thought coming for you and your kitty. I took care of several CRF kitties, know how hard it can be. Hugs, Gloria At 10:52 PM 2/10/2007, you wrote: My wonderful CRF kity is in a bad way. He did so well on fluids for 3 years and is over 20 years old, but he has a large lesion under his tongue and cannot eat. he is anemic,,,and it would be cruel to extend his suffering, He is on Buprenex now and is surrounded by warm rice socks and comfortable,,I gave him his fluids as that is a wonderful comfort measure. Please just send some good thoughts for us as this is the part of my rescue that is so very hard for me. but necessary ,,,Monday morning I shall hole him in my arms when he makes that final journey and once again becomes part of the universeas do we all, Kelly
Re: add sweet Houston to the CLS 2/8/2007
Thanks everyone, I read all these messages, you know how good they feel, I'm sure. Gloria At 08:18 PM 2/9/2007, you wrote: Gloria I am so sorry for your loss of Houston.Hugs to you. Sherry Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It took me 6 months to get their names straight - never sure who was Dallas and who was Houston. They were great, big fat, gorgeous kitties. Houston black and sleek, Dallas a fluffy white and gray. Gloria On Feb 9, 2007, at 2:49 PM, Susan Loesch wrote: I'm sure they didn't feel really lucky in those traps, but I bet they felt pretty good about it before long! As it was, the woodsy area where they lived was partially plowed down, the person feeding them moved, and besides being crowed out, it was next to a huge high-traffic shopping center and just off a busy highway -- they probably wouldn't have lasted long there. I named them Dallas and Houston right after they got to Gloria's. I think she kept them at first because I was going out of town -- to Dallas. And then she let them stay. MacKenzie, Kerry N. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a great background story, Susan. Thanks to you and then Gloria, these little souls got lucky for the rest of their all-too-short lives. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 1:21 PM To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: add sweet Houston to the CLS 2/8/2007 Houston and Dallas both were wonderful. I'll never forget trapping them. Dallas got into the first trap - this fluffy little gray and white ball. Then I waited...and waited and waited. Houston would come closer and go away - come closer, then back to the edge of the woods. I was trapping with mackerel and his appetite- thank goodness - finally got the best of him! Got them both in one day. I was sure that Dallas was going to be the first to tame down and that Houston would stay a wild man -- but Houston tamed first and best - he was beautiful, so sleek and black. They were lucky enough to get to live with Gloria and I got to see them often. Dallas was right there across the bridge ready to meet Houston, as was my Leader. How wonderful to think of all three as free and healthy and happy! TenHouseCats mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aw, gloria, i'm sorry. GLOW to guide houston to his new place at the bridge, and to heal your heart. MC On 2/9/07, Gloria Lane wrote: My sweet Houston died last night. He came to me from Susan, who worked hard to trap him and bubba Dallas out west of Little Rock. Houston and Dallas tested positive for FELV. They were just babies, and Dallas was a wormy kitten back then. That was Spring 2004. They grew up healthy happy cats, at least up until the last couple of weeks of their lives. Dallas died in September 2006, of mediastinal lymphoma. His bubba Houston just now joined him last night; he died quietly, was anemic, and Susan came over to see him before his passing. They both died after missing some time on their daily interferon, don't know for sure if that's connected, but I do think it is. They were both sweet loving kitties, playful, mischievous, just wonderful. I'm glad to have known them; I'll miss them. They'll be in good company - Leader, Mittens, Calawalla Banana Booboo, Mr. Black Kitty, and all the rest. Gloria -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on http://answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTFvbGNhMGE3BF9TAzM5NjU0NTEwOARfcwMzOTY1NDUxMDMEc2VjA21haWxfdGFnbGluZQRzbGsDbWFpbF90YWcxYahoo! Answers.
Re: add sweet Houston to the CLS 2/8/2007
Thanks everyone, I read all these messages, you know how good they feel, I'm sure. Gloria At 08:18 PM 2/9/2007, you wrote: Gloria I am so sorry for your loss of Houston.Hugs to you. Sherry Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It took me 6 months to get their names straight - never sure who was Dallas and who was Houston. They were great, big fat, gorgeous kitties. Houston black and sleek, Dallas a fluffy white and gray. Gloria On Feb 9, 2007, at 2:49 PM, Susan Loesch wrote: I'm sure they didn't feel really lucky in those traps, but I bet they felt pretty good about it before long! As it was, the woodsy area where they lived was partially plowed down, the person feeding them moved, and besides being crowed out, it was next to a huge high-traffic shopping center and just off a busy highway -- they probably wouldn't have lasted long there. I named them Dallas and Houston right after they got to Gloria's. I think she kept them at first because I was going out of town -- to Dallas. And then she let them stay. MacKenzie, Kerry N. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a great background story, Susan. Thanks to you and then Gloria, these little souls got lucky for the rest of their all-too-short lives. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 1:21 PM To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: add sweet Houston to the CLS 2/8/2007 Houston and Dallas both were wonderful. I'll never forget trapping them. Dallas got into the first trap - this fluffy little gray and white ball. Then I waited...and waited and waited. Houston would come closer and go away - come closer, then back to the edge of the woods. I was trapping with mackerel and his appetite- thank goodness - finally got the best of him! Got them both in one day. I was sure that Dallas was going to be the first to tame down and that Houston would stay a wild man -- but Houston tamed first and best - he was beautiful, so sleek and black. They were lucky enough to get to live with Gloria and I got to see them often. Dallas was right there across the bridge ready to meet Houston, as was my Leader. How wonderful to think of all three as free and healthy and happy! TenHouseCats mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aw, gloria, i'm sorry. GLOW to guide houston to his new place at the bridge, and to heal your heart. MC On 2/9/07, Gloria Lane wrote: My sweet Houston died last night. He came to me from Susan, who worked hard to trap him and bubba Dallas out west of Little Rock. Houston and Dallas tested positive for FELV. They were just babies, and Dallas was a wormy kitten back then. That was Spring 2004. They grew up healthy happy cats, at least up until the last couple of weeks of their lives. Dallas died in September 2006, of mediastinal lymphoma. His bubba Houston just now joined him last night; he died quietly, was anemic, and Susan came over to see him before his passing. They both died after missing some time on their daily interferon, don't know for sure if that's connected, but I do think it is. They were both sweet loving kitties, playful, mischievous, just wonderful. I'm glad to have known them; I'll miss them. They'll be in good company - Leader, Mittens, Calawalla Banana Booboo, Mr. Black Kitty, and all the rest. Gloria -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on http://answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTFvbGNhMGE3BF9TAzM5NjU0NTEwOARfcwMzOTY1NDUxMDMEc2VjA21haWxfdGFnbGluZQRzbGsDbWFpbF90YWcxYahoo! Answers.
Re: cat BM in inappropriate locations
You've been thru a lot with your kitty. I certainly don't know - but just briefly, if he was mine, I'd try Flagyl, which is not only for parasites but can be useful as an anti-inflammatory. If that didn't work, I'd talk to my vet about it other parasite problems. If that didn't work, I'd try some of the drugs that effect mood - like Elavil, Valium, that sort of thing. Might also try locking him up in a bathroom with a litter box and caring for him there for a couple of days.I've done that with a couple of cats who pooped inappropriately, feeding them good wet food twice a day, and after a while the poop becomes loose - guess I'm feeding the parasites. When that became apparent, I switched to Flagyl, etc. Hope you find a good solution, and maybe this helps in some way. Gloria At 07:28 PM 1/26/2007, you wrote: In a way, this is almost funny, and I hate to interject it between all the terribly serious things that are happening with other's cats and the desperate measures some are going to try and save their babies. My heart goes out to you, Paolo and Michelle in particular. Our ~12 y.o. FIV+ male, Otis, has begun defecating in various places around the house. The first incidence happened probably a month ago, when he was locked in the bedroom with no litter box for about 1/2 an hour (feeding time). He used the closet. We said stupid us and made sure never to do that again. A few days later, he went in the closet again. The doors were all open and he was never locked in. A month later, we found it in the bathroom, on the bathmat. Next, we found urine on the bathmat. The next day, he went right on the tile in the corner of the bathroom. Today, I *knew* he was going to do it, went in there and caught him, put him in the litterbox. He vaulted out of there like a teenager and headed right back to the bathroom. When he squatted, I picked him up, and, well, he did it anyway. My partner is a vet tech, and I held him while she expressed his anal glands today. One had a lot of relatively hard matter in it; the other seemed pretty normal. We were hoping that was the reason for his behavior. Lo, he went in the bathtub while we were out at the gym this evening -- just a small bit, but there it was. Did he develop a litterbox aversion because the anal gland was bothering him and just hasn't figured out that it will not hurt to use the litterbox? Or ... what on earth is going on? On the tile and in the bathtub are two of the least destructive choices he could make but naturally we want him in the litterbox! Lynette =^..^= The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be measured by the way in which its animals are treated. --Mahatma Gandhi, 1869-1948
RE: internist thinks Lucy has FIP
Thanks for all the great info ... Gloria At 11:01 PM 1/20/2007, you wrote: Here is one more link on diagnosing FIP, the percentages that rule FIP in or out are interesting. http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=1cat=1316articleid=212http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=1cat=1316articleid=212 An excerpt from this site: How is FIP diagnosed? Because we can not rely totally on the antibody test for a diagnosis, we must combine the history, clinical signs, laboratory results, FCoV test result, and possibly radiographs to come to a probable diagnosis. The only way to be absolutely sure of an FIPV infection is to http:\\www.peteducation.com/http:\\www.peteducation.com/http:\\www.peteducation.com/javascript:popupWin1('/dictionary_term.cfm?term=biopsycls=1', 50, 50, 350, 300)biopsy affected tissues and have them examined by a veterinarian pathologist. As a result, most often the diagnosis is made after the cat has died, a postmortem examination has been performed and tissues have been examined. In an attempt to try to make the best diagnosis we can while the cat is still alive, we can follow these criteria for a cat with clinical signs of FIP: * The cat has a low number of lymphocytes: 1.5x103 cells/µl. * The cat has a positive FCoV test result (titer 1:160). * The cat has elevated globulins in his blood 5.1 gm/dl. If the cat meets all three criteria, the probability the cat has FIP is 88.9%. If the cat does NOT meet all three criteria, the probability the cat does NOT have FIP is 98.8%. In those cats who have fluid in the thorax or abdomen that can be analyzed: * If the gamma globulin fraction in the fluid is greater than 32%, the chances that the cat has FIP are almost 100%. * If the albumin fraction is greater than 48% or the ratio of albumin to globulin is greater than 0.81, it is almost 100% certain that the cat does NOT have FIP. From this discussion, you can see that a certain diagnosis of FIP is not made very easily. Remember, the gold standard for diagnosis of FIP is through microscopic examinations of biopsies (a procedure called histopathology). Beth
Re: Missy has a bloody nose:(
I know not everyone uses homeopathy, and it's not used like regular allopathic medicine -- but I use either Arnica or Phosphorus for unusual bleeding - usually Arnica. It works really well, I take it myself for nosebleed, especially get it during the dry winter. I gave it to my dear departed Nicky who had a mouth cancer that kept bleeding, and it worked well. Gloria At 09:20 AM 1/18/2007, you wrote: My vet is closed and has been for days due to the ice stormI am so worried about her. I am hoping it is due to the dry air, but no one else has a bloody nose. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.orghttp://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: OT Anyone care to take a shot at this question?
Do volunteer work at a shelter --- is a great response. Gloria At 10:41 AM 1/17/2007, you wrote: At 08:37 AM 1/17/2007, you wrote: STRANGE INDEED. I would find out where this person got rid of the cat and if it was the SPCA should never be adopted out ot, My response would be Please take that love and go volunteer at the shelter . Kelly lane This is an email I got. I've been thinking about how to respond for a while and still can't figure it out. iHi, This may seem odd, but I figured you guys would probably know best. I want to be a cat owner. I'm 27, a professional with no life in sight, and I love cats. I grew up with cats, back on my parents ranch, and simply adore them. I'd adopt one without any hesitation except for one problem. I adopted a cat before, and had to take him back to the rescue shelter I got him from. After almost 2 years with him it was very heart breaking, but I had lost my job, and the Bay Area of California is a fairly unforgiving place economically. My only close friend (we both moved there from Boerne, TX) said I could live with him and his girlfriend, but that I couldn't bring my cat. It still brings tears to my eyes when I think about him, as I truly did love him. I couldn't provide for him and had to give him up. I like to think that he's somewhere warm and nice, and that his new owners give him as much love and care as I did. My mother, who is a fanatical cat lover, almost disowned me, and will still cry about it. Anyway, as I've said, I'm alone, and want to adopt a cat to have someone to love, basically. I just don't know if that's a valid/healthy/good reason to want to adopt and figured I'd ask some professionals./i -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org/http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/631 - Release Date: 1/16/2007
Re: Ki's done
Sorry to hear that - I remember how disappointed I was when my dear Calawalla tested positive a second time - she looked and acted so healthy, I just knew it would be neg. They can look so healthy, but still carry the virus, sigh. Good luck with the move... Gloria At 11:53 AM 1/4/2007, you wrote: Well, Just got off the phone with the vet. My little darling is still +. Oh well, This is a big step for me. We will soon have everyone vaccinated, and I can let him out of his room. I hope the trip to NY in the spring does not cause him any problems. I know it's gonna stress ME out with all these cats!!! The neuter went fine, and he'll be home soon!!! Dede --- On 1/4/07, dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We just dropped Ki off to be neutered. He is getting to be a big boy...8 mo now, I think. He will be tested today too, so keep your fingers crossed. I have such a supportive vet. Told her we were keeping him no matter what the outcome. Will have everyone vaccinated. This group has given me the knowledge to do this. A yr. ago, i would have had him PTS. I got over the stigma of FIV years ago, and now i understand FeLV so much better. What will be will be. Dede When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
I couldn't get the 1st one to load, but got the 2nd. She's gorgeous - I can almost hear her purrr! Thanks, Gloria At 07:13 PM 1/3/2007, you wrote: I took some pictures of her, if anyone wants to see: http://www.rescuties.org/images/caroline.jpghttp://www.rescuties.org/images/caroline.jpg http://www.rescuties.org/images/caroline1.jpg On 1/3/07, Kelley Saveika mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It always scares me when they won't eat. Especially since I could not even have syringe fed her. On 1/3/07, Gloria Lane mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't do the anti-anxiety as of yet, just let the cat food. I'm so glad she's coming around - thought she would. Gloria On Jan 3, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote: She's MUCH better as of last night. Ate a whole bowl of food, and let me come very close to touching her, then put her paw out to stop me (no claws this time, though.). I'm not sure of the next step. I can put her on anti anxiety meds, but if she's ok with me I won't know if they are working. I don't think I can take a chance on adopting her out at this point. On 1/2/07, Marylyn mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is very true. Dixie Louise, who is a very laid back cat, snarled at a friend who had on a strange fragrance. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]tamara stickler To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:06 PM Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat Kelley, Do you wear any scentsor are you a smoker? It may take her a while to get used to your smellor lack of if her owner used perfume or smoked. Kelley Saveika mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I don't think she is feral at all. Her ex-guardian had her since 8 weeks of age, per the medical records she gave me. (she's had WAY too many shots, IMHO - the vet we have inside Petsmart here seems to be quite the ripoff joint). She doesn't seem to like my voice, she bares her teeth and hisses at me when she hears it. Seems pretty indifferent to other cats so far (I shoo them out when they go in her room, but she pays no mind to them). On 12/31/06, Gloria Lane mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep in mind that apparently she's not feral, just terrified. Give her time, and try tasty stuff (like the fried chicken - great idea). Talk to her soothingly. Gloria On Dec 31, 2006, at 6:28 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote: Oh, she also hasn't eaten since she got here. I have tried her regular food (they brought the remains of a bag over), pill pockets (with no pills in them - my cats love them), freeze dried shrimp, yucky Pounce treats, and canned food. Next I am going to try tuna. There's no way I can syringe her, and I can't get her to a vet without trapping her, which usually involves food. So I just have to hope that she eats, I guess. Judging from my cats, maybe I should try white bread - they think that is the best thing going! On 12/31/06, Kelley Saveika mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not only can I not touch her ears, I can't get closer than about a foot and a half without being in danger of losing a finger. On 12/30/06, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub inside her ear. My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety. She was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes even me. With the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to make her groggy at all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the edge off I guess. Michelle -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org/http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org/http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Great! Sounds like she's doing well and coming round. It's a big shock leaving the home you've known.. Gloria At 12:13 PM 1/2/2007, you wrote: Apparently the only scent I wear is cat pee, according to my coworkers, but that's another thread:p. I don't smoke. She is a LITTLE better. She ate enough canned food to produce a bowel movement. She's still not eating what I think she should, though - especially since her former guardian said she was a very enthusiastic eater and would make friends with the person who fed her. On 1/2/07, tamara stickler mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Do you wear any scentsor are you a smoker? It may take her a while to get used to your smellor lack of if her owner used perfume or smoked. Kelley Saveika mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I don't think she is feral at all. Her ex-guardian had her since 8 weeks of age, per the medical records she gave me. (she's had WAY too many shots, IMHO - the vet we have inside Petsmart here seems to be quite the ripoff joint). She doesn't seem to like my voice, she bares her teeth and hisses at me when she hears it. Seems pretty indifferent to other cats so far (I shoo them out when they go in her room, but she pays no mind to them). On 12/31/06, Gloria Lane mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep in mind that apparently she's not feral, just terrified. Give her time, and try tasty stuff (like the fried chicken - great idea). Talk to her soothingly. Gloria On Dec 31, 2006, at 6:28 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote: Oh, she also hasn't eaten since she got here. I have tried her regular food (they brought the remains of a bag over), pill pockets (with no pills in them - my cats love them), freeze dried shrimp, yucky Pounce treats, and canned food. Next I am going to try tuna. There's no way I can syringe her, and I can't get her to a vet without trapping her, which usually involves food. So I just have to hope that she eats, I guess. Judging from my cats, maybe I should try white bread - they think that is the best thing going! On 12/31/06, Kelley Saveika mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not only can I not touch her ears, I can't get closer than about a foot and a half without being in danger of losing a finger. On 12/30/06, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub inside her ear. My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety. She was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes even me. With the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to make her groggy at all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the edge off I guess. Michelle -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org/http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org/http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com/http://mail.yahoo.com -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.orghttp://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: please add my Lizzie to CLS and prayer list
Hideyo, I'm so sorry - many prayers and good wishes for her peace. Sleep soft... Gloria At 05:20 PM 12/18/2006, you wrote: My little gentle soul, Lizzie passed away this morning she is the sweetest and kindest and most affectionate soul I have ever counted I have bottle fed her from the day one and its been such a pleasure to have met her I miss her just so terribly and I feel so empty all over .. please pray for her peace.
FeLVTalk
Hi Elizabeth, there's something wrong with AOL accounts and our list. Messages to your email address have been bouncing, so the system suspended your account. Please visit: http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org to reactivate your list settings. Please let me know if you need further assistance. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org
Re: anyone having trouble with the list?
On 18 Dec 2006 at 19:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got an email from the system that 3 list emails to me bounced and I was being removed from the list unless I confirmed and rejoined. Did this happen to anyone else? Anyone know what's up? Hi Michelle and all, I'm not quite sure what's happening either. It seems to be affecting mostly AOL users (and a few Earthlink users, as well). In the past, AOL temporarily blocked FeLVTalk mail because they thought it was spam. Could those of you on AOL please contact them to see if this is happening again? I'd really appreciate it. My apologies for the inconveniences, and I hope we get this straightened out soon. Kind regards to all. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org
RE: New member introduction/questions
What dosage? At 06:27 PM 12/13/2006, you wrote: Junior's gingivitis cleared up with the immunoregulin treatments. I would say within two weeks. Update The URI seems better and I am able to put the erythromycin ointment in his eye. This I had left from when he was in an accident and his eye was damaged. The vet has yet to call me back. I called today and it seemed like the main message of getting something for Junior's eye went unread. I did leave here papers on the Alferon to read. She is not there tomorrow, so I may have to stop by and see what I can get. Best of luck with your kitty. Sally -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Tillman Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 2:23 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: New member introduction/questions Hi Folks, I just joined this list after finding out that my cat, Shane, is FeLV positive. Shane is approximately 3-4 years old. I adopted him about 2 1/2 years ago from our local shelter. I did not have him tested at the time I adopted him, so there is no way to know how long he has been infected (he does spend some time outdoors, though there are few other cats that venture onto our property). In July, he started having a problem with his left eye, which my vet diagnosed as an ocular herpes infection. It took about three months to clear things up and it now appears that it may be coming back. During this time, we also noticed that Shane was developing pretty severe gingivitis that has progressed pretty rapidly. I took him in for a pre-dental blood test on Monday and that is when his FeLV positive status became known. The rest of his blood work was fine--most everything was within normal range. I now have to make a decision about whether to stress him with a dental procedure or just do nothing. On the one hand, the worsening gum disease will have a negative impact on his health but, on the other hand, my vet is concerned that the anesthetic and procedure could potentially create a health crisis as well. I also wonder how long the benefits of the dental would last, considering how fast the gum disease has progressed in just a few months' time. Basically, my vet has left it up to me and says there are arguments for (and against) either option. Shane is in good condition (though he had dropped about 3/4 of a pound since our last visit to the vet), his appetite is excellent and there are no other abnormalities that we have detected so far. Does anyone have any thoughts in regard to the dental? Also, I've been reading through the files regarding interferon alpha, immunoregulin, etc. At what point is it reasonable to consider using those treatments? Do you wait until the CBC starts to show problems (anemia or drop in WBCs, etc.)? I look forward to you input. Sue and Shane Jerome, AZ
Re: Pepper died
I'm so sorry, Candace Gloria At 05:18 PM 11/26/2006, you wrote: I just wanted to let you know that Pepper died a few hours ago. He started getting better with this current episode but was not so good earlier today. I was not expecting him to go so suddenly. I was not at home at the time so not sure what happened. I want to thank everyone for their advice and support. This group is great for those of us who want to take responsibility for the health care of our pets and give them the best chance possible for a good outcome. Thank you all Candace
Re: Update on Valley - and thank you
Susan! That's wonderful!!! Wow! Gloria At 12:49 PM 11/15/2006, you wrote: My big flamepoint Siamese, Valley, who had the 7 hematocrit, is much better!! Thank you all for your prayers, good vibes and input. He has now had two shots of Epogen. Last night he came into the kitchen to drink water with the other kids rather than my taking a bowl to hiim. He came into the den and jumped up on the couch - where he spent the night. This morning I took him to the litterbox as I have been doiing and he jumped right out - which tells me that he is going on his own now. Also, for the first time in almost a week I didn't have to syringe-feed him. He ate Fancy Feast on his own.My vet says his gums look better - I wasn't sure.We are now doing a hide and watch - and wait and see if he continues to feel better and if his gums pinken some more. We may go to an Epogen shot once per week. I am very encouraged!
Re: Aloe vera, is it poisonous? (was Update on Antonio)
Re Aloe Vera - it has some great healing properties. There's a part of the plant that's toxic, but part of it is not. In general, I think that aloe juice is from the healing part of the plant, not the membrane that is or can be toxic. I looked it up a few years ago and found a nice diagram, can't find it now though. It's UNFORTUNATE that the web sites that label it as poison or not poison don't go into more detail. For example, I use Georges Aloe vera juice routinely with cats, it's not poison, and has had some good effects on mouth problems for example, my Lucy had mouth inflammation and my acupuncture vet recommended it - and it worked great. Also, acemanan is based on Aloe - go figure - this is from Wikipedia: Many of Aloe vera's beneficial properties are attributed to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//wiki/Glycosaminoglycansmucopolysaccharides present in the inner gel of the leaf, especially http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//w/index.php?title=Acemannanaction=editacemannan (acetylated mannans). An injectable form of acemannan manufactured and marketed by Carrington Laboratories as Acemannan Immunostimulant has been approved in the USA for treatment of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//wiki/Fibrosarcomafibrosarcoma (a type of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//wiki/Cancercancer) in dogs and cats after clinical trials. It has not been approved for use by humans, and although it is not a drug its sale is controlled and it can only be obtained through a veterinary doctor. A site called http://www.1st-aloe-vera.com/aloe-vera-currenthistory.htm - lists these significant dates and events: 1991 - Ian R. Tizard, PhD, of Texas AM, reported in the Journal of Molecular Biotherapy, that Aloe mannose was highly effective against feline leukemia and soft tissue cancer in cats and dogs. 1992 - Dr. James Duke, United States Department of Agriculture, approved the use of Aloe mannose as a treatment of soft tissue cancer in animals and feline leukemia. Aloe is not to be written off - it has some great healing properties. Gloria At 12:50 PM 11/15/2006, you wrote: Okay, while I was reading about aloes and aloe vera gel I did start to remember something about the skin of the plant being toxic, (not the gel from the inside). I found this post from a Holisticat archive. I'm still confused after reading it, but I thought I'd pass it along while I look for clearer answers: ALOE(part used: leaf gel) vera vs ALOES (parts used: dried leaf juice---the following info was taken from the book Herbal Medicines: A Guide for Health-Care Professionals, by Newhall, Anderson,and Phillipson; hardcover, 296 pages, $77, available through the American Botanical Council 1-800-373-7105) Aloe vera (Aloe vera and aloes are often confused with each other) refers to the mucilaginous tissue located in the leaf of Aloe vera or related Aloe species. However, many documented studies for Aloe vera have utilised homogenised leaf extracts which therefore combine aloe vera with aloes, the laxative preparation obtained from the bitter, yellow juice also found in the leaf. Commercial aloin is a concentrated form of aloes. Aloe vera is obtained from the mucilaginous tissue in the center of the Aloe vera leaf and consists mainly of polysacharides and lipids. It should not be confused with aloes, which is obtained by evaporation of water from the bitter yellow juice that is drained from the leaf.Unlike aloes, aloe vera does not contain any anthraquinone compounds and does not therefore, exert any laxative action. Hypoglycemic activity has been documented for an aloe vera extract, although it is unclear whether this is associated with the true aloe vera gel or the aloes extract. The external application of aloe vera gel during pregnancy is not thought to be any cause for concern. However, products stated to contain aloe extracts or aloe vera may well contain gastrointestinal stimulant anthraquinone components that are well recognized as the active constituents in aloes(laxative). As such, ingestion of such preparations during pregnancy and lactation should be avoided. ALOES ...recommended for the treatment of atonic constipation and suppressed menstruation. In human studies: the purgative action of the anthraquinone glycosides is well recognized, although aloes is reported to be more potent than both senna and cascara. An aloes extract in doses too small to cause abdominal cramps or diarrhea had a significant hypoglycemic effect in 5 non-insulin-dependant diabetics.(Ghannam N et al. The antidiabetic activity of aloes: preliminary and experimental observations. Hormone Res 1986; 24:288-94) Aloes is a potent purgative that may cause abdominal pains, gastro-intestinal irritation leading to pelvic congestion and in large doses, may result in nephritis, bloody diarrhea, and hemorrhagic gastritis. The drastic purgative action of aloes contra-indicates its use in
RE: You are my support group-please add Schumacher to the CLS
Brenda, I'm so sorry, I know how hard it is - he was so lucky to have you - Gloria Original message: I know I only post to this group when I have a tragedy, but I read almost all the posts online daily. I feel like you all are my support group although I don't have any FeLV+ cats any more. I lost my last one in June. Anyway, our FIV+ Schumacher as gone to Rainbow Bridge today. About 6 weeks ago he went to the vet because he was a little depressed and wasn't eating well. The bloodwork showed kidney problems (elevated BUN creatinine) and below normal PCV. He spent 5 days in the hospital and the vet pulled him through. He's been on prednisolone, cyproheptadine, Pepsid AC, Procrit sub-Q fluids. Over the weekend, he just took a nose dive and wouldn't eat or drink anything. He was drooling and gagging at the sight of any food. I took him back to the vet this morning and she didn't think anythig else could be done. His anemia appeared to be gone, but he was just very depressed and vocalizing (normally quiet) alot when I tried to hold him. He had clearly had enough of the needles pills. The vet recommend PTS and I decided it was the best thing. He was a very loving orange tabby with a little cattitude on the side and was my husband's favorite. This is never easy and it's already been a rough year. We've lost 2 others since June. Please add our Schumacher to the CLS as a non-positive. Thanks for always being there to listen when I need you all. Brenda
Re: OT Help, I am so embarrassed
Are you sure its giardia? At 11:38 AM 11/10/2006, you wrote: So how did you get your giardia under control? I'm doing metronidazole and panacur right now, and desperately trying to get the adoptables ready for adoption. Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I *KNOW* my house stinks. I had a giardia outbreak, and even though it is over they have decided the floor is a better place to poop than the litterbox. At least it is solid now. I am gone from home 8-10 hours a day at work and they wreak havoc. I never let anyone come over unless they are a very, very close friend. I'm steam cleaning the carpets again this weekend... On 11/10/06, Nina mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know it's not funny, but I'm laughing at the thought that we've found one more thing we all share in common: WE STINK! I too have become accustomed to the fragrances of my animals. I'm always asking trusted visitors, does my house stink?? Maybe we should have T shirts printed up, If you can smell Cat, then you're too close! Nina Susan Hoffman wrote: A hook and eye latch type lock is cheap and effective. I started doing this because one of my own little gremlins, Trixie, loved to go into the closet and remove EVERYTHING from all the shelves. tamara stickler mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nina and others have mentioned keeping closet doors closed. But you may need to do more than that. I currently have a foster cat that is VERY adept at opening closet doors...aaand locking himself inside. (I've nicknamed him Tully after the character Lewis Tully in Ghostbusters who kept doing the same thing!) It's not that he Can't get outits just more fun to sit in there and howl until I come looking for him. My point being...you may want to rig the closet doors to be certain the cats can't possibly open them...Remember, they're cats..they're SNEAKY!!! Nina mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering if one of your little angels is marking your closet. I'd get in there and make sure everything smells fresh and then keep those doors closed! Kelley Saveika wrote: My supervisor just called me in for a meeting and apparently people have been complaining that I smell like cat urine. I do have some sprayers. I wash my clothes with Oxyclean and I bathe every day, of course. I have only smelled cat urine on myself once and then I was aware of it. Could I smell bad and not know it? -- Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Everyone is raving about http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=42297/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbetathe all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. -- Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20