military felv+ cat needs foster for 6 months
Web Page: http://operationnoblefoster.org/contact.htm Name: katie fletcher Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Military: yes Comments: i am being deployed in january for 6 months and i have a cat that has tested positive with felv. i was hoping you could help me find someone who could take care of her for me while i am away. everyone i know either does not like cats or already has one and can not take her. thank you and i hope to hear from you soon. katie fletcher p.s. since the computers on board ship do not always work when you need them to, i will give you my mom's email address too ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) and she will get in touch with me with any information you might have. thanks again, katie
foam mats???
what is wrong with the foam mats? the pound we rescue from has those as dividers (because county too darn cheap to put up plexiglass)to cut down on any xcontamination if a sick cat comes in. thank you in advance for this info. barbara
two felv+ cats in georgia need a home
One is a blk DMH with a little white on the chest. The other is a black/orange torti. Both are very sweet. They are caged together. the pound is very rescue friendly. Pauline is holding onto the cats to give them a chance to find rescue or adopter- til next week. MURRAY COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER PO Box 1129 Chatsworth, GA 30705 p:706-695-8003 f:706-695-8069 WEBSITE http://www.petfinder.com/shelters/GA155.html HOURS OF OPERATION CLOSED Friday mornings for euth. Must call before 5pm on Thursdays to save a pet. PRIMARY CONTACT Pauline Davis, Murray County Animal Shelter Phone: 706-695-8003 regards barbara
Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 19, Issue 75
i belive the felv kitten hit by a car is possibly in austin texas as i googled that humane society and the area code 512 is also the same. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 1:27 PM Subject: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 19, Issue 75 Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Hit by car FELV+ kitten needs rescue (TenHouseCats) 2. Re: Popeye has gone to the bridge (catatonya) 3. Re: Churchill Please add to the CLS (catatonya) 4. Re: Popeye has gone to the bridge (catatonya) 5. RE: Popeye has gone to the bridge (catatonya) 6. Re: Dilated left eye ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:22:34 -0400 From: TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Hit by car FELV+ kitten needs rescue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" WHERE IS HE? On 8/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2. FeLV Kitten Survives Hit & Run Car Accident is now facing Posted by: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] kitrynak Date: Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:20 pm (PDT) Russo escaped all odds when he was hit by a car, then taken to The Humane Society of Williamson County. He was immediately rushed to the vet where he was treated, and it was determined he would be fine with a little TLC and care. Russo has only lived a short 3 months and thought his luck was changing. But, unfortunately his luck didn't hold out, he has tested positive for FeLV. The shelter does not have the proper facility to provide shelter for an FeLV kitty. We are desperate to see this little boy get a chance at love and life, even if just for a little while. He loves to snuggle, play, and purrs all day long. He has been through so, so much, and now this terrible turn of fate. The adoption fee will be completely waived we just want to see him saved. He can either be an only kitty, or with other FeLV kitties, but has to be an indoor only cat. Please call or email us today and save this little boy from being just another statistic... Ask for Kynama (512) 947-9577 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.6/428 - Release Date: 8/25/2006 -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20060827/07c9e045/attachment.htm -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 09:28:34 -0700 (PDT) From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Popeye has gone to the bridge To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thank you. I picked up his ashes on Friday. It was sad, so a friend came and went out to dinner with me. I am basically just 'laying low' at school and hoping for the best. Being polite, etc tonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am so sorry for your loss. It sounds as if Popeye had fourteen wonderful years with you and was well loved. I'm glad that your HR department was able to make your principal be reasonable. Try not to let this taint your relationship with her too much - not to excuse or defend her but she may have come from a place where they didn't allow those sorts of absences or been trying to set policy right off the bat. Her approach was unfair and terrible, but you do have to work with her every day and it will only make your life miserable if you let this get to you too much. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20060827/a89692b7/attachment.htm -- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 09:37:37 -0700 (PDT) From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Churchill Please add to the CLS To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm so sorry Sherry. Your "crash cats" are always in my prayers. tonya Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi we lost Churchill a beautiful big gray baby.He had a big cattitude too,but we still loved him.Thanks everyone. Sherry - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countr
Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 33
pls resend any mess. asking for the felv+ info for ne sanctuary for calif cat(s)--my kittens made the computer eat everything in saved - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 1:17 PM Subject: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 33 Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Bandy and the ringworm-- depo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 2. Re: Please pray for Bandy (gwork) 3. Re: [NMHP] Silly bugs, kibble is for cats!-To Michelle ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 4. Re: Please pray for Bandy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 5. Re: Please pray for Bandy (gwork) 6. Re: Please pray for Bandy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 7. to Nina (gwork) 8. Re: SPCA's Views on FelV ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 9. Re: Please pray for Bandy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 10. Re: Please pray for Bandy (wendy) 11. To Kerry re Bandy (wendy) 12. To Kris re questions (wendy) 13. Re: To Gina (wendy) 14. OT: kitty fur changing color??? (wendy) 15. Re: (no subject) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 16. Re: Mama Kitty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 17. To Kris re: website (Gina) 18. Re: to Nina ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 19. Re: Phaewryn and Bones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 20. Re: kitty fur changing color??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 21. Re: To Gina (Gina) 22. Re: Mama Kitty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 23. Re: Bandy and the ringworm (Kerry Roach) 24. Re: immuno-regulin dosage (Kerry Roach) 25. Re: Please pray for Bandy (Marylyn) -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:51:06 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bandy and the ringworm-- depo To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" That is REALLY strange, because steroids usually feed fungi and make them worse, I think. They help with allergies, though. Michelle In a message dated 6/15/2006 8:42:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is not the same situation, but Spaz once had a fungal ear infection which the vet attempted to treat with Conofite, and it did absolutely nothing. He then gave her a shot of Depo-Medrol, and that gave excellent results. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20060617/bf510428/attachment.htm -- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:14:43 -0400 From: "gwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Please pray for Bandy To: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" But if you the animal isn't getting iron and protein, wouldn't that hinder production? Kris http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 6:43 PM Subject: Re: Please pray for Bandy I don't think that not eating affects PCV much. Michelle In a message dated 6/17/2006 6:42:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It sounds like if he would just eat, then his PCV and protein would improve. Even though 22 is lower than he was, at least it's still a decent number. I guess I'm just saying, I personally don't think he is anywhere near being ready to cross yet. He just needs help, and that is presenting to be tricky at the moment. I wish I knew something to help you, but I don't, but still, personally, I think keep on trying, don't give up yet. My Spaz was almost gone thrice, but we made it. It seems strange to me that he would have a fever but normal WBC, unless his personal count is usually lower, so this is actually high for him, but still technically within the "normal" range. All I can tell you is that Spaz, when in the hospital for her URI, had a temp that would go up and down for about 8 days, and then finally was able to keep it down. I wish you the best for Bandy! -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20060617/8d4dda0f/attachment.htm -- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:10:37 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NMHP] Silly bugs, kibble is for cats!-To Michelle To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes, I was there years ago, and it was fantastically beautiful, and the shelter is unbelievably large and well-run and wonderful. Michelle In a message dated 6/15/2006 6:25:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECT
Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 16, Issue 37
rachel i might know a feral refuge for the cat if she tests positive. eamail me off list. thanks. barbara - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 1:11 PM Subject: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 16, Issue 37 Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Mixing FeLv & non FeLv ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 2. Re: Please add Papoose to CLS - Jeni ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 3. Re: Bandy's eye appt. (Barb Moermond) 4. Re: Adoptions (was OT: heartbroken) (Wolf, Leah R.) 5. Re: Rachel's ramble (Rachel Martineau) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:25:32 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mixing FeLv & non FeLv To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Skipped content of type multipart/related -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:33:44 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Please add Papoose to CLS - Jeni To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jeni, I can understand your pain at losing Papoose. I am sending you healing thoughts and prayers Karen in California and her "Angel Ms. Clyde" -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20060514/193aee01/attachment.htm -- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 23:12:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Bandy's eye appt. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Kerry, that is excellent news Kerry Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everyone, Just wanted to update you all on Bandy's eye appointment last Thursday..We finally have some good news..and the doctor was even shocked...His eyes have improved..So for the moment, he can see some..He isn't running into things or being as cautious as he was 2 wks ago...His eyes aren't cloudy right now either...So we are on a maintenance dose of the prednisolone acetate and atropine...He gets the pred drops twice daily and atropine once daily now...we do a re-check if all is well in July otherwise I am to call if there is any change between now and then...He will have to remain on the drops the rest of his life though and the dosage adjusted according to how he responds...He said the fibrin clots were gone, but he has some scarring on the retina due to all of this...It is just part of his disease or I guess that is the cause of it..They did a toxo test, but it was negative..I think he was checked for this last August, too. Anyway, I am happy that he can see some...He is now climbing on things again..but he can't judge distance too well...I watched him yesterday, and he was very cautious about getting down...I guess he will learn how to deal with all of this...I am thinking about getting some pads to put on the floor near where he climbs so he won't hurt himself again...He likes to climb so I don't want to take that away from him... Anyway, head butts to all and hope your kitties are doing good today.. Kerry, Bandy, Inky and Angels Buster, Lil Rascal and Snoopy - Blab-away for as little as 1�/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20060513/0e16bb9f/attachment.htm -- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 08:21:17 -0400 From: "Wolf, Leah R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Adoptions (was OT: heartbroken) To: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I adopted my Felv+ Bubba from the Friends of Montgomery County Animals via PetsMart. I discovered him and FMCA at a Cat Fanciers cat show in DC, where they had an "exhibit" of several of their rescued cats and a picture of Bubba. (I have a soft spot in my heart for these positive cats since one of our sweetest yellow tabbies, a stray whom we re
mega C use plus other
hi, i have used Mega C plus for more than a few years on all my cats + and -. I also used ambertech ambrotose, vit E 200 iu and a&d 1xwk. one cat is now negative, another cat still positive (but his skin allergies are gone--used to have hair loss etc) and Jelly Roll died before his 2nd birthday 2 yrs ago now, suddenly "crashing". the other cats I have on the C (knock on wood) have had no reoccurence of any flutd/ urinary tract disorders--their crystals were all struvite not oxalate, though. i stopped the ambrotose after jelly roll died. Mr bean is around 8+ yrs adn so is clancy the two felv+. barbara
Fw: [spotsociety] there is no dog with leukemia at Auburn
had a friend who is Muscogee Humane director down in Ga call auburn and - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 11:16 AM Subject: [spotsociety] there is no dog with leukemia at Auburn Hi Everyone! I received the email regarding the feline leukemia dog at Auburn so I called Dr. Brenda Griffin (most of you probably know her = she heads up the shelter medicine program). Anyway, she has confirmed to me that there is not any dogs with feline leukemia anywhere. It is not a zoonotic disease. Don't worry K-9's you're in the clear! It is only a feline disease. Thanks!! Joan Sammond Executive DirectorMuscogee County Humane Society7133 Sacerdote LaneColumbus, GA 31907Office: (706) 563-3647Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.muscogeehumane.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "spotsociety" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
?-our low cost clinic vax our rescue cat first adn then discovered cat is felv+
I work with an online rescue group--the clinic came highly recommended. we sent 10 cats to be s/n vetted. I recd phone call one cat is fiv+ and one is felv+. I said, okay-dont' pts-I'll find them refuge or something. then I got the bill emailed to me adn there's a charge for felv vax on the felv+ cat. I email back--hello--isn't this charge wrong? here's the answer I recd back-pls help or point me to research about the safety or truth to this "method" -- Because of the assembly-line methods we use, all the vaccines are drawn up and administered prior to drawing blood; therefore we don't test first then vaccinate based on the test results. The vaccine won't harm a cat who tests positive and won't affect the test results. I'm told this is how other high-volume clinics do it although I've never directly confirmed that. what's ironic is same person "saved" another felv+ that came into her clinic--and needs to find refuge for it also. she loves that cat. I would like to find research to say to the clinic, hey don't vax first and then test because---cornell say this or another vet univ.said this. For now I've learned to say, HEY test first then vax. it's my da*n dime paying for these rescued cats! $10 saved on a felv vax is two days of boarding fees. thanks for any help, barbara
anyone ever have a positive turn negative?
Carrie Hi, my cat Mr. Bean (foster kitten I got at 4 wks old)probably at 2-3 yrs old(dont have his vet records handy) started drooling horribly so took to vet and his cbc came back postive. the vet told me to research research research so that's how I found this group adn holisticat website. I put Bean on mega c plus, vit E 200 units daily, a&d once a week, better quality canned food(too many cats to feed raw diet..), no dry food except a lttle as a treat, ambertech ambrotose on advice of my chinese medicine vet and some chinese pills he gave me(sorry long day so dont' remember squat right now)and pet tinic 1xday- last year tested negative--he lost most of his teeth but his fur is beautiful and breath is good. yet the same stuff did not turn Clancy negative--but he no longer has those horrible allergies adn all his fur grew back. Now i have 2 rescued cats down in Georgia who went in today for neutering at low cost clinic and one is fiv+ and one is felv+. the fiv+ i can place but the felv+ has to go back to boarding until our online rescue group can find placement for him. i dont' mind--makes up for the one cat we were going to rescue but it got adopted. yeay! but then the pound called me to say new adopters called to say cat had tested felv+ at vet and vet said to pts. the pound knows our group will look for sanctuary/homes but too late for that cat. at least it did not die in gas chamber. barbara
Please help Angels' Gate Animal hospice URGENT TUESDAY 18 2 PM MEETING -EMAIL/CALL
they have taken in felv+ cats also. I can't recall offhand which member here even sent a felv+ there in the few years I've been on this list. Sue Marino, a rescuer/vet tech from Muttshack runs her own pet hospice in NY. She has about 200 sick and dying animals and is now having problems with the town & her neighbors. They are trying to get her thrown out for "running a business" when in fact it is a non-profit org trying to give these disabled pets a better life before they die. The following link goes directly to the town's reps that are ruling whether or not to throw her out of her house and off her property, along with the pets. It's Sue Marino at Angel's Gate Hospice. Please take a minute and write to show your concern. Click here: Welcome to the Town of Smithtown MORE INFO ON SUSAN HERE: Some of you know that there is a small group of neighbors surrounding Angel's Gate Animal Hospice in Fort Salonga, NY who are trying to close them down. This is not news, as there have been complaints in the past but to no avail. However, now this group is taking it to the next level by hiring an attorney and trying to pursue legal action. Angel's Gate has always maintained an open door policy and has been inspected, interviewed, observed, and/or been paid surprise visits by the Department of Health, Department of Public Safety, Buildings Department, Animal Control, The ASPCA, and the Smithtown Town Attorney and have been found in no violation of any wrong doing. In fact, founder Susan Marino won the ASPCA Founders Award in 2003 for her work with animals. Since all else has failed, this small faction of the neighborhood is now trying to claim that Angel's Gate is running as a "business" when in fact it is a nonprofit providing the only services of it's kind on Long Island. Among those supporting the hospice is the remaining majority of Angel's Gate neighbors. Now Sue, Victor and their incredible staff caring for the sick, injured, homeless, and terminally ill animals need our help. Here's how. THIS TUESDAY, April 18, at 2pm. Smithtown Town Board meeting at Town Hall - 99 West Main Street, 2nd Floor. Supporters of Angel's Gate will be attending and speaking on behalf of the hospice in the open forum section of the meeting. Please join us to speak or just to show your support. Come early! E-mail your support to Smithtown Supervisor Patrick Vecchio and Councilmembers Patricia Biancaniello, Thomas McCarthy, Edward Wehrheim, and Joanne Gray, and express the need for the hospice in the Long Island community. http://www.smithtowninfo.com/email.cfm CALL & WRITE Smithtown Supervisor Patrick Vecchio and Town Board Patricia Biancaniello, Thomas McCarthy, Edward Wehrheim, and Joanne Gray voicing support. c/o Smithtown Town Hall 99 W. Main Street Smithtown NY 11787 Supervisor's office: (631) 360-7600 Town Council office: (631) 360-7621 Please forward this e-mail, write your own, or pass this information along to others to leverage your support. Thank you for your help. Listed below are links to additional information. For further details or if you have any questions, please call Angel's Gate at (631) 269-7641. Sincerely, Cathy LaSusa Volunteer For detailed information on the issue: http://www.angelsgate.org/UNDER%20ATTACK.htm Website for Angel's Gate: http://www.angelsgate.org/ Info on past media coverage of Angel's Gate: http://www.angelsgate.org/In%20The%20News.htm NYC Mayor's Alliance article on Angel's Gate: http://www.animalalliancenyc.org/newsletter/05-05/aao.htm _ 25 replies e posted Reply # Apr-17-06 12:15 PDT
Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 15, Issue 31/2felv+ kittens need home- pet cats in rochester ny
Hi Amy, I sent you some info for hopeful placement ideas for the felv+ cats of dead owner. if you dont' receive it, let me know. or at least i hope i sent it correctly... barbara Lowe From: Amy Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: 2 FeLV+ Kittens Need Home - Please Read To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'm writing about 2 male white kittens in Rochester, NY that desperately need a home. I just got a call from a woman about her son who died suddenly and unexpectedly. I don't know the details but I know he had 2 kittens that he loved dearly. He adopted them at 6 weeks old from our local humane society and a few weeks later they both tested positive for leukemia. He had fallen in love with them and decided to keep them, so they have been in a loving home since September. Now that the son has passed, the poor boys have no home. The family called about taking them to our humane society and they said they would euthanize them. The family is devastated and just wants to find a home for these 2 cats. I am pregnant and have lost my job because of being so sick and there is just no way I can add 2 more to my batch right now. I have been in bed sick for the past 18 weeks and can't even think about introducing 2 cats right now. I feel awful for this family and for these cats that are so sweet and full of life. I know it is a long shot but can anybody take them? I would help set up transport to get them to a new home. Amy Weygandt Woof Wagon www.woofwagon.com
anyone ever checked out this place in Va.?
Rikkis Refuge in Orange, VA - their webiste www.rikkisrefuge.org Was wondering if anyone here has ever heard anything about this place? now searching for placement for 8! cats from gassing pound in Georgia. (they came in at all different times and have been housed in secondary building but with more intake of cats and kitten season coming up soon, they need the spaces these cats are taking up.) thanks, Barbara
any hope/suggestions for 2 felv+ Georgia kitties and 3 Fiv kitties?
Hi, My previous post has the info for these felv cats. these all do not have to go together. they are all now presently under the care of www.savethekitties.org but they are not set up for special needs kitties nor do they have the funds to keep them in board nor is it fair to the gentle souls to keep them in confinement.(right now they are having a fundraising challenge for hospital bills for a kitten hopefully recovering from distemper) Does anyone know anyone who might have room at a sanctuary or in their home to take on any of these felv+/fiv cats? the org. will arrange transport and vetting. the felv+ info is on my previous post, Hello again! the fiv cats are Gracie, Fabio, and Ariel The 3 kids are deemed veryy friendlynon agressive. All are altered and up to date with vaccinations. Gracie and Fabio are still in boarding need to get out asap due to confined space outdoors. Ariel is currently in a foster situation but needs to go asap as well. their photos are on the savethekitties.org website-here's link, go to the post marked gianna today 2:58. 2 cats are long hair-one calico, one tabby, the other is b/w tuxedo. http://www.savethekitties.org/forums/forums/2/421/ShowPost.aspx#421 I am going to contact Angel's gate--didn't someone on the list bring their kitty there? if that person is still on this list, can you let me know if you are happy with that place? thank you for reading and any suggestions/leads, Barbara
hello again!
Hello hello! I've been away so long. (and probably most of you are scratching your heads and thinking, who is this anyway??? ha!) Been dealing with my d*g's cancer and he's hanging in there. no new lumps yet. Even adopted a 2nd older d*g as companion last Oct. and during the day they sleep next to each other but at night, she takes the couch and he still pushes my husband off our bed.then the cats curl up next to the dog. My sister's cancer has not returned either so we're very happy about that. My Mr. Bean is still negative though he only has one tooth left. My other positive Clancy unfortunately still tested positive so not able to start up fostering again for local shelter. So I've been doing my bit for rescuing online. WWW.savethekitties.org recently contacted me concerning two black positives they have in foster care in Georgia that need a home or safe haven. This is an amazing group along with www.savingshelterpets.com that work online to rescue cats from high kill pounds. There is one black female approx 1 yr old and a male approx 2 yrs old. both very friendly but they are in cages at foster care and their care is draining the group's pocketbook and a decision will have to be made soon. Both kitties are in temporary boarding in Griffin, GA; they are rescues from the high kill gas shelter at Spalding County, GA. SavetheKitties will arrange/provide transport to foster/adopt location. Both have had distemper and rabies vaccinations as well as initial de-worming; SavetheKitties will do distemper booster. In their combo testing, both tested positive for Felv. Neither has been spayed/neutered at this time, however, SavetheKitties will either provide spay/neuter prior to transport or fund after transport. I have posted their ads on the adoption page along with photos. I would gladly help out if anyone can take these two in. I've missed the daily emails from this group and crying and laughing along with you all. Most of all, I've missed knowing there are others out there who would not shudder when I say, "oh I have 7 cats and 2 dogs." take care, Barbara angels Jelly Roll, Lenny, Cali, Mad dog Madison in-house wreckers-Mr. Bean, clancy, dopey, Puff Daddy, Dieffenbacher, milk Dud, Princess 7 Layer eats-a-lot and Frasier and Sadie
Re: question bout kittens....
i blame myself for letting Jelly Roll come into contact with Lenny (who tested postive) when they were kittens(3-4 weeks old). even tho Lenny died under 1 yr old, Jelly lived two plus years but crappy virus still got the best of him. keep them separated. I loved lenny but I hate myself for what happened to Jelly Roll. barbara - Original Message - From: "TenHouseCats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FeLVTalk" Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 1:16 PM Subject: question bout kittens > okay, group, need opinions here. > > i currently am the estrogen zone for my part of the state--turned my > front room (formerly cat-free space, for doing crafts) into a nursery. > four condo cages, one floor-to-ceiling cat tree, scratching posts, > lots of toys, etc. 3 big windows, a/c, their own bathroom (well, their > own close-by water supply, at least!). > > i currently have four nursing moms, and 24 kittens. (21 biological > kittens and 3 orphans). all the moms are negative, so i'm assuming > the kittens are as well. > > i've been asked to take in 2 two-week-old orphans. i'm wondering how > everyone defines, "PROLONGED, PERSISTENT CONTACT"--ie, do you think > that nursing for another couple of weeks would be enough to pass the > virus? i WILL test the kittens if i get them, but they're so young i'm > not sure i'll trust the results.). or should i just bottle-feed > them and keep them separated? (just heard from the woman who has them, > and they're not doing a bottle very well--a momcat and sibkits to > cuddle with might be much better for them, but of course i don't want > to harm the other kittens) > > thoughts, please! > > thanks > -- > MaryChristine > > AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ: 289856892 >
Re: Pls help increase awareness "knowing wrong things about FIV+ cats"
sounds good to me. it's been such an uphill battle just with felv+. just a nitpick. you wrote vegetarians, you do mean veterinarians, right? and if you do mean veterinarians, i would think such a paper would be very time consuming because of the research involved.(years) and take a long time to get published. I keep meaning to print up a list of websites with felv+ info to give out to my vets because I get so many phone calls from them whenever another patient's cat tests positive and they need someone to talk to. a list of fiv+ sites would be good also. again the problem is if the vets are old school or just don't want to be bothered, they might not even want to be bothered giving out this kind of info to their clients because their clients would then seek a different vet's help in taking care of their cats which translates as a loss of income to the first vet. has any magazine like Cat Fancy done any articles on fiv lately? I know Angel's Gate founder recently published a book think it's called Getting Lucky--dont' know what the contents are. She might have contacts tho or suggestions. (i forget who it is on the list recently brought a cat there). also Denise Flaim at Newsday here on Long Island also published a book last year I believe. she has a weekly pet column--maybe write her to ask to do an article on fiv. (i don't get newsday anymore--no time to read!) Or google other pet columnists for other area newspapers to hit them up. i will ask a local rescue for the info on fiv's. I know of one cat. barbara - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:11 PM Subject: FW: Pls help increase awareness "knowing wrong things about FIV+ cats" Please let me know if you have any suggestions or thought – or do you think it’s a damn idea? Hideyo From: Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:11 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: Pls help increase awareness "knowing wrong things about FIV+ cats" Since I have been on this list, I have learned a lot about wrong doings of how FIV+ cats have been treated everywhere in the world due to the misconception and lack of knowledge or knowing wrong information – I am aware that there have been and are going to be many many FIV+cats who have been and are going to be euthanized just because they tested positive (whether it’s false or right information) – I am not sure what the best way to do about it – but we have what we call “living examples” of how less threatening FIV+ cats are to FIV negatives and how normal life FIV+ can live for a long time – and wanted to somehow make some social movements on FIV cats so that FIV cats are treated better at the shelters, rescue groups, and by vets, clinics, and by individual who found out their (new or existing cats) are tested positive – Again, I am not sure how to go about it – because anything that is published publicly needs to come from a vegetarian, but wanted to compile the information by gathering your experience and present them somehow so that this information are going to be spread via a vegetarian conference or published via pet magazines, newsletters or etc …..I am thinking of sending an email to Dr. Addie (who does research at Univ of Glasgow – she has dedicated last two decades on FIP cats – but she might have an idea as to which doctor might be supportive of this idea – I also thought of contacting to Dr. Yamamoto (I think that’s her name) who discovered the virus in 1986 and to see if she has any suggestions or she can help somehow based on our experience. Anyway, I want to do something to protect lives of FIV+ kitties in the world – if anyone (even if you have done so already) can you send me the information as to how many and how long FIV+ cats (and negatives) you have and how long they have been integrated, and whether they have been transmitted or not (and the date of the last test done of negatives) and health status of FIV cats (we believe the FIV status does not have any averse affect on their life span – and I would like to advocate this fact also Please let me know what you think of the idea and any information you might be able to help. Thank you Hideyo
Re: [FivCats] I need placement help for Domino
what's with this 'wet food increases tartar and placque' statement ? and where is that woman & her "sanctuary" in westchester? that place sounds to me like anther angel's wings in the making situation. can we find out where that house is and ask to have it investigated? even if just by another rescue so that in case it is okay rather than reporting her first to aspca who would remove animals because she's over the legal limit. barbara - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:09 PM Subject: FW: [FivCats] I need placement help for Domino Please allow me to cross post this in case you can help- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of siberskiiSent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 6:32 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [FivCats] I need placement help for Domino Some of you may remember me from last month. I have MS and now Domino has had 2 Western blots (the 2d was just done at Cornell), both with FIV+ results. Domino has been a strictly indoor cat, has a dog companion (our Golden), my kids and us. She only eats Nutro dry food, which is probably why her teeth and gums are in such good shape. I have read with interest the various postings here re: people with Lupus, HIV+ etc., who have FIV+ cats. The bottom line is that for those of us who are immune-compromised, there are no definitive answers about our risks with FIV+ cats. Joel posted here a little while ago about the spread of bacteria between people and cats; others have written about cat scratch disease being transmitted to humans. Unless you are immune compromsed, no one really can tell the those of us who are, whether it's worth the risk to keep an FIV+ cat around or not, or whether there's a risk at all. It's a complete gamble.I previously posted that I am not willing to take the gamble, not with my health. Too many doctors have been wrong about my disease, its progression, the drugs I've taken for MS & their side effects; I can't take the word of fellow kitty-lovers about FIV+ if my own human docs, the two vets I've seen & the Cornell Feline Health Clinic have question marks about this. So yes, I decided that I needed to place Domino elsewhere for both our sakes.I contacted the rescue group where we got Domino. They connected me to a lady nearby, in Westchester County, NY where I live. She has 17 FIV+ cats. Eight are upstairs with a dominant female, 9 are downstairs in runs or cages because they either spray or are too timid to use their litter boxes (at least acc to the lady). She feeds them all a little wet food to keep them "hydrated" (what happened to water?), which we all know increases tarter and plaque, as well as dry food. She has told me that many of her cats have had theirteeth pulled, and that some are completely toothless. She also told me that she has litter boxes all over the house, that some cats sleep on her bed, on pillows or selsewhere, and that she keeps mountans of amoxicillin around. She also has two small gogs plus a German Shepherd. She became angry when I asked if I could inspect the premises, telling me that I was being insulting to her, and she said that the only thing I could see or do at her house (which I can't, since her house isn't accessible) would be to put Domino in what she described as a large dog-sized cage in the kitchen to say goodbye. Then Domino would remain in the cage for a full month while the other cats got used to her and vice versa. Apart from my discompfort with all the above, it seems only logical to me that with so many FIV+ cats around, the chances of spreading illness, viruses and bacteria increases exponentially, thereby increasing the rish to all the cats. Needless to say, I am not inclined to place Domino with this lady.But I need to place Domino somewhere - not in a foster home, not with a resue group or a shelter, but in a permanent home where she will be safe and happy without zillions of other cats around who might scare, intimidate or weaken her. I have reactivated my yahoo email, because I know that some of you were trying to get back to me last month but my yahoo e-mail got loused up somehow and the e-mails bounced. I would be most grateful if anyone here would be willing to take in Domino, age 1 1/2, black tuxedo cat with greenish eyes, asymptomatic now, companionable but not an "in your face" cat, loves water, especially out of people glasses with ice! and likes her ears rubbed. If anyone is relatively close to us, and would allow my daughters to call for the first few months or whatever to check on how Domino's doing, since they're heart-broken too, maybe even more than me, I'd appreciate hearing fr
Re: OT: sorry if repeating myself but never saw this email gothru/anyone in Florida Okeechobee area?
thanks. i never saw a single one. I should have known something was up as i didnt' have one single email for over 6 hours. - Original Message - From: "TenHouseCats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:25 PM Subject: Re: OT: sorry if repeating myself but never saw this email gothru/anyone in Florida Okeechobee area? > there were a number of answers yesterday, barbara! mine was: i have > friends in siamese rescue down there who might have info/be able to > help research it. other folks had other options..... > > > > On 6/16/05, Barbara Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > never saw my first email get to the group so asking again. need to check out > > a "rescue" in the Lake Okeechobee area-anyone know anyone there that could > > even just drive by to see if this is a hoarder situatin or really a rescue? > > my friend who donates-was sent articles that the pound had been closed due > > to horrendous practices so people keep dumping animals on this one woman > > "rescue" > > thanks for any help. > > barbara > > > -- > MaryChristine > > AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ: 289856892 >
OT: sorry if repeating myself but never saw this email go thru/anyone in Florida Okeechobee area?
never saw my first email get to the group so asking again. need to check out a "rescue" in the Lake Okeechobee area-anyone know anyone there that could even just drive by to see if this is a hoarder situatin or really a rescue? my friend who donates-was sent articles that the pound had been closed due to horrendous practices so people keep dumping animals on this one woman "rescue" thanks for any help. barbara
OT: does anyone live near okeechobee florida that could check out a rescue for me?
just curious if anyone on list is in florida area? a friend of a friend has been sending $ to a rescue there but never saw it. and after the Angels Wings fiasco, figured better check it out. thanks for reading. barbara
Re: OT: PLEASE can ANYONE help - Blind Kitten Very Sad/Kat
what a great story, Kat. and thank god for angels on earth like you! barbara - Original Message - From: "Kat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 3:42 PM Subject: RE: OT: PLEASE can ANYONE help - Blind Kitten Very Sad > Hi Hideyo, > Teresa says he'll be okay where he is until I get there. > (actually, they still aren't sure he's a "he" yet) and I will > end up keeping him as long as the rest of the crew warms up > to him. > > I will have my vet check him over and test for FIV/FeLV and > then I'll see how well he does with the crew. It won't be the > first kitten I've rescued - last year I rescued a tiny little > black boy from a co-worker's back yard - named him "Solo" since > he was the only kitten (mom was a feral). He was born without > his upper eyeLIDS, and when my vet neutered him, she did some > cosmetic surgery and formed eyelids out of some extra skin below > each eye. Now he thinks he's just the cutest little Cat's Meow... > Kat (Mew Jersey) > > On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:29:22 -0600 > > From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: RE: OT: PLEASE can ANYONE help - Blind Kitten Very Sad > > > > Kat, you are so wonderful I got goose bumps when I saw your > > posting - > > Will you be able to take care of him or what is the plan for this little > > guy? > > > > Can Teresa keep him an indoor until Sunday so that nothing will happen > > to him? > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat > > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:29 PM > > To: FeLV Talk List [New] > > Subject: Re: OT: PLEASE can ANYONE help - Blind Kitten Very Sad > > > > Hi Belinda, all - > > I just spoke with Teresa on the phone, and will be > > meeting up with her on Sunday to pick up the little > > blind kitten. I live in Northern NJ, so it's really > > not that far for me. I'll post more after Sunday. > > Kat (Mew Jersey) > > > > On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Belinda Sauro wrote: > > > > > Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:42:27 -0700 > > > From: Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > To: "FeLV Talk List [New]" > > > Subject: OT: PLEASE can ANYONE help - Blind Kitten Very Sad > > > > > > Please forward and cross-post to anyone you think might be able to > > help, thank you -- > > > > > > I am looking for a special home for a blind kitten. He was > > unfortunately born with no eyes. His mom tends to ignore him to care for > > her other kitten & his litter mate is off playing with the others. He is > > a barn cat and unfortunately I just can't take him in right now. I > > already have 4 of my own & my hubby would shoot me if I brought home > > another one. The kitten is starting to wander & it's heart breaking to > > see him bumping into things. He wanders around the horses when we aren't > > there & I'm afraid he is going to be stepped on. This little guy just > > needs someone to give him alittle extra TLC so he can adapt to this > > world he cannot see. I would prefer an indoor home so he is sheltered > > from the "Big Outdoors" > > > If I can't find him a home, I am going to have to have him humanely > > euthanized, which I am prepared to do, but would like to see him in a > > loving home instead. > > > Please contact me if you or someone you know is willing to offer this > > little guy a home. He is located in NY > > > 607-767-1073 or 607-271-3141 > > > > > > Thank You > > > Teresa [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > > > Belinda > > > Happiness is being owned by cats ... > > > > > > Be-Mi-Kitties ... > > > http://www.bemikitties.com > > > > > > Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens > > > http://adopt.bemikitties.com > > > > > > FeLV Candle Light Service > > > http://www.bemikitties.com/cls > > > > > > HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) > > > http://HostDesign4U.com > > > > > > --- > > > > > > BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) > > > http://bmk.bemikitties.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Fw: [Volunteers] Fwd: Re: Signature Confirmation - Defenseless Victims:Chained And Tethered Dogs - 3 - 2976
anyone in the NY area-could you sign this petition and forward to any friends who are in NY. thank you! barbara - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi Everyone: > > A friend at the shelter is looking to get this passed. Please take a moment to > sign the petition. A law banning chaining dogs is so very badly needed. > > Linda > >http://www.PetitionOnline.com/2976/ > >
Re: Re: Vitamin C questions
belfield's is powder--it's the one i had mr. bean on the postive who is now negative. if you google belfield and mega C plus i believe the company is orthomological or somethiing like that. it's too darn hot to walk back downstairs again. they ship very quickly. barbara
Re: fever down!
keep thinking postively that her temp is down!!! barbara
Re: 6 week old kitten fever question
sending this link to the fever archives on www.holisticat.com http://www.holisticat.com/fever_arch1.html kittens that are negative often run mysterious fevers--does she still have diarrhea? i'm glad she's eating and drinking. is she active at all? or is she just sleeping? it is scary when they run that high a temp in one so young and postive also. hopefully her body is fighting something hence the fever. does she look anemic at all? did the vet mention anything about getting blood work done? wish i could help more. barbara - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 9:47 AM Subject: 6 week old kitten fever question > Hello all- sorry I been inactive lately just a reader I guess you would call me :( > > I have a slightly urgent question...I just adopted a 6-7week old felv pos kitten, and of course she came with a fever. It was 104.0 the night I brought her home. I don't know if you'all remember that I work at a vet so thankfully I was able to start her on SQ fluids right away, the doc told me to hold of on antibiotics because she has diarrhea. This was Tuesday night. Well by Thursday her fever had not broken and I brought her to work with me, the doc then started her on amoxicillin and meloxicam (an anti-inflammatory and fever reducer), her temp still has not broken and at 4 am (last night) she spiked to 105.8!!! > I could not give her any further meds because she had them at 11pm. I put her to bed on a soft ice pack and slept with her the rest of the night. This AM she is down to 103.2, better but still too scary for me. Obviously she has something else going on besides just a fever. I have a call in to my doc (again thank god I work there because its Sunday!) In the meantime I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas...experience with this type of fever...tips...anything? Also, at what temperature does there body "shut down" ? I can't find any reference to when a high temp would be critical anywhere. > Oh yeah she is eating and drinking on her own, and she has NO other signs of illness. > Thank you so much in advance for anything anybody can offer, > Kristi >
Re: Vitamin C questions
i've not had any problems with belfield's MegaC plus for my cats(postives and negatives)(knock on wood). i mix 1/4 teaspoon 1x daily in canned food and mix it up really well along with their Vit e 200 iu. princess my negative just blew a huge booger on my sunday comics paper so she'll be back on her lysine 500 1x daily also. barbara - Original Message - From: Del Daniels To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 9:49 PM Subject: Re: Vitamin C questions I understand Vitamin C can cause diarrhea in cats ... what is a starting mg to hopefully avoid that side effect ... and how gradual can it be increased ... and the maximum dose during an URI? Del - Original Message - From: Gloria Lane To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Supplements - Grace Go to http://www.belfield.com/home.html and click on the "magazine" link. He has links for "products" and that's where they are.GloriaOn Jun 11, 2005, at 11:49 AM, Nina wrote:> Thanks Gloria, do you know if the B complex liquid was really > unpleasant tasting? I like to sup my IBD cat Gypsy with B and it > tastes so awful that she won't eat anything it's mixed in. I do > have the injectable, but I hate the shots as much as she does. Can > I find the sups your talking about by doing a Goggle search on the > Drs' names?> Nina>> Gloria B. Lane wrote: I ordered Belfield's Vitamin C, which is actually a combination of >> C with other nutrients. And ordered his B complex liquid- >> initially to try with a friends Diabetic cat, but haven't done >> that. I use PetTinic, but it has a bunch of sugar in it. Also ordered a liquid supplement form Dr. elfield, and used it >> with a cat (Harry, who's with Susan now) that had stomatitis >> (sp). Actually, gave him that, plus interferon, plus lysine. >> Something helped, he got better. Gloria>> At 10:44 AM 6/11/2005, you wrote:>>> What did you order, and what is it suppose to help with?>>> N>> Gloria B. Lane wrote:>> Right, those are the sups I use, except I've ordered some laterly from Dr. Belfield. It gets hard to give lots of supplements, sometimes. Gloria At 10:01 AM 6/11/2005, you wrote:> Hi Gloria,> Yes, I use Lysine on a regular basis. I used to give it every > day, along with Vita C, and Co-Q10. Now I just add supplements > periodically, or when there's a hint of a symptom. Everyone's > been getting sups lately, along with Transfer Factor, stress > formula. I'm out of Interferon A, I usually put them on that > when they have symptoms too. I do have some VO in the box, I > may start her on that.> Nina
Re: Left my view about the military
maybe i missed a post, where did you leave your view? barbara - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:04 PM Subject: Left my view about the military I have just left my views about the military issue - hope they choke on it too - that it so horrendous - the amount of fear those poor dogs must have felt is just to heartbreaking to consider. My transfer factor has arrived today so I have given Bramble one straight away. His pupils have started to react to light again today but I don't know how long for. Thankyou every one for your support and guidance - I am not giving up on the little man yet - all your efforts are very much appreciated. Fingers crossed still. Michelle
Re: Please Help!! 2 17y old healthy cats...NY
i would be very leary of any retirement program north shore has because as I recall, they also try to find homes for these retired pets--so in essence, you the owner might pay thousands of dollars to have your pet retire to a supposedly safe environment however if north shore adopts it out to someone, they're not monitoring what happens to the pet afterwards, are they? Bide a Wee in Wantagh NY i believe it is, has a retirement home and they keep the animals there forever. barbara - Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:57 AM Subject: RE: Please Help!! 2 17y old healthy cats...NY He could try Angel’s Gate which is near him. Also, North Shore does have a ‘retirement plan’ for animals but it does cost some…. How does he know they are 17 if he took them off the street a few years ago? Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:19 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Please Help!! 2 17y old healthy cats...NY anyone know of a retirement home for 2? I live in Astoria, Queens NY. I took the cats off the streets a few years ago; abandoned in a cardboard box. I have severe health concerns and my energy is nil. Thanks Richard On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:21:40 -0400 "rjmondello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi, My name is Richard Mondello and I have two adult cats that I can't find a home for. They are 17 but in very good health. I will be moving in four weeks and my new home will not allow pets. Can you direct me to a place where the cats would not be put down? I am prepared to make a donation for help. As stated, the cats are in good health, declawed and very friendly. I've contacted some organizations but have been told that adult cats are difficult to place. Thanks for your time, Richard To you, it's just a temporary gift of a bit of space and some extra food~ to him it is the immeasurable gift of life!~ Never underestimate the importance of fostering!(>''<) Yahoo! Groups Links · To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kittycityrescue/ · To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] · Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: OT: US military killing dogs in Iraq/please read!!!!
oops make that , a case like this would be different IF it was stateside... - Original Message - From: "Barbara Lowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 8:48 AM Subject: Re: OT: US military killing dogs in Iraq/please read > please first contact bonnie at the www.militarymascots.org website. > organizations like hers really advise against such action as it only leads > to more operations like "vector control" I believe it is called--and more > dogs and cats are killed in roundups with such reasons as rabies, etc given. > A case like this would be different is it was stateside but this happened > way out of the public's eye and away from constant monitoring. yes it was > horrible but you don't want a backlash where some brass says, just get rid > of all the damn mutts already so there's no publicity period. > > - Original Message - > From: "BONNIE J KALMBACH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:18 AM > Subject: Re: OT: US military killing dogs in Iraq > > > > I would pass it on to anyone who loves animals. > > > > Bonnie > > > > www.elephants.com > > > > - Original Message - > > From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Thursday, June 9, 2005 8:34 pm > > Subject: Re: OT: US military killing dogs in Iraq > > > > > I wonder who we should contact? Senators/reps? news media? > > > > > > t > > > > > > BONNIE J KALMBACH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://usmilitarykillsdogs.allsupportgroup.info/ > > > > > > www.elephants.com > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: OT: US military killing dogs in Iraq/please read!!!!
please first contact bonnie at the www.militarymascots.org website. organizations like hers really advise against such action as it only leads to more operations like "vector control" I believe it is called--and more dogs and cats are killed in roundups with such reasons as rabies, etc given. A case like this would be different is it was stateside but this happened way out of the public's eye and away from constant monitoring. yes it was horrible but you don't want a backlash where some brass says, just get rid of all the damn mutts already so there's no publicity period. - Original Message - From: "BONNIE J KALMBACH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:18 AM Subject: Re: OT: US military killing dogs in Iraq > I would pass it on to anyone who loves animals. > > Bonnie > > www.elephants.com > > - Original Message - > From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thursday, June 9, 2005 8:34 pm > Subject: Re: OT: US military killing dogs in Iraq > > > I wonder who we should contact? Senators/reps? news media? > > > > t > > > > BONNIE J KALMBACH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://usmilitarykillsdogs.allsupportgroup.info/ > > > > www.elephants.com > > > > >
Re: OT: US military killing dogs in Iraq
if you go to the military mascots page and read the stories about some of the mascots, it's even more heartbreaking when some military brass then vetoes an animal being shipped stateside when the necessary money has been raised. it costs big bucks to bring an animal back-the vet bills, transport, etc--and remember the military is not paid big bucks. barbara - Original Message - From: Cherie A Gabbert To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:41 AM Subject: Re: OT: US military killing dogs in Iraq I am sick and weeping for those dogs.BONNIE J KALMBACH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://usmilitarykillsdogs.allsupportgroup.info/www.elephants.com Have a purrfect day Cherie
Re: US military killing dogs in Iraq
which is another reason why I support groups like www.militarymascots.org that are trying to help our soldiers who have adopted cats and dogs in their units and wish to bring them stateside to keep them safe and give them homes. I wish North Shore animal league had spent their 30 grand on helping bring home these soldiers' pets rather than 30 dogs from China in their grand publicity stunt. barbara - Original Message - From: "BONNIE J KALMBACH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "chris kalmbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Fritz n' Linda Kalmbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kalmbach, Fritz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "lori nitzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Martin P. Kalmbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ; Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:32 AM Subject: OT: US military killing dogs in Iraq > http://usmilitarykillsdogs.allsupportgroup.info/ > > www.elephants.com >
Re: Bronx Nuns Seek Extermination of 8 Year Old Cat Colony - O.T.
how depressing. and one might ask them how they expect to get rid of the rats that will return once these cats are gone? Prayer? barbara
Re: HELP
sorry. i have no experience like this to give you any advice. i would google/search online the flea med you gave Bramble just to see if any reactions like this have occured with other cats that are also on other meds. did you tell the vet you gave the flea stuff? so sorry this is happening. regards Barbara - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:06 AM Subject: HELP Hi Guys You may recall Bramble (FIV+) went Ataxic on Tuesday and then recovered - he started Omega Interferon on Thursday - and is on 2.5mg daily of Fortekor for a heart murmer. Waiting to hear results still for calicivirus, herpesvirus and FeLV. I was on the phone to the emergency vet last night when I panicked as Bramble was showing symptoms I haven't seen before. They said settle him down and see what he is like in the morning. I did and he settled although he didn;t move again until this morning. I woke up when I heard him scratching frantically on the floor - only it wasn't a scratch it was more like a scared confused going mad scratching so I think he may actually have been having a seizure with all four legs paddling away as he looked confused afterwards. He staggered off into the corner and I put the lamp on - then for about 5 mins he looked in pain and didn't want me to touch him - he was moving his head very slowly then stretching his body out abnormally slowly - his tail in the air then his backside in the air - then he pushed out his back leg and then tried crawling with his front paws on his belly - it was all very very slow and not like normal stretching. This morning he didn't wobble and I gave him his intereron jab as normal - he ate a good breakfast too. Today he is quiet and hasn't moved from the sofa where I put him about 5 hours ago apart from getting up to turn around. He seems a little uncomfy at times about being stroked on the back of his head - has managed to go to sleep. He seems a little mentally disengaged at times and I guess he is in some discomfort all though he hides it well so I don't know exactly if he is or not. He definitely was during last nights episode. He also does seem to have lost more muscle mass too. Has anyone experienced anything like this or have any idea what might be going on - I really don't know what is the right thing to do on this one. The vet said watch him if he has seizures or pain that doesn't stop after 30mins to get him back. Does interferon have any side effects like this??? Also the vet said if he loses use of his back legs and they go cold and stiff and he starts crying then that indicates a blood clot so not to wait around on that - anything is possible. I'm trying so hard to give him the best care possible but I don't know is it right to keep fighting with him or is it fairer to put him to rest - when do you know with these viruses when it is the right time to euthanase your furry friend. I also put stronghold flea drops on him yesterday but I can't see that causing anything like this. Michelle L PS - I am delighted that Sam is found - such a good result.
Re: suggestion
I might also suggest -how to put this?--a warning about vets who claim to be alternative medical vets/holistic etc.there's a vet operating out of the Animal Wellness center here on Long Island who is not very good -in fact, was brought to the area by a pet store around the corner from him to administer to all the sickly puppies they sell from puppy mills. Before I realized this guy's scam, I once tried to tell a young couple in his waiting room who had just bought a puppy that their new purchase had kennel cough and mange! the receptionist started shaking her head at me and went to talk to the vet. when it was my turn to go into waitiing room with a sick kitty, he proceeded to lecture me on how "we" are not there to lecture people on their choices of pets but to help cure them. I argued that they had just bought the darn thing and should go get another. he did proscribe all sorts of holistic meds for a felv+ kitten I had but did not explain the proper way to administer them -that I later learned from reading on holisticat site---and pushed a raw diet but not a word about proper & necessary supplements. after three different visits and witnessing many other such incidents with the puppies from the pet store, i realized this was not a good vet. sure his office bulletin board has glowing testimonials from some patients however the whole picture just did not add up. barbara - Original Message - From: Barb Moermond To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 12:10 AM Subject: Re: suggestion http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?request=display_sub&category_id=113&website=default&session=42a1277e1ec09d81 This is a link to FELV/FIV friendly vets and you can add to it - you have to register, but it's free and it's on Belinda's site. They are listed by state or all in a group. I listed my vet clinic (Cat Care Clinic in Madison WI).stany petrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, Thanks for your warm emails for Jersey. I am going to print all of them on one page, put it in a plastic folder and attach it on the tree next to his grave inside the forest. This will also help me to recognise the place in the winter. I read the Rainbow Bridge poem that Barbara sent me and try to believe this is a true. I am also waiting for a message from Jersey about a new cat... I miss him a lot. As a typical British Shorthair he used to come to the door every time I entered and I feel awful now. My big lesson from that case and the last emails about Sebastian is that not all vets are experienced as I thought before. Some of them are and some are not. I don't know how many people are in the forum but hopefully we cover half of the states. We might make a list with the qualified vets for each state based on personal experience. In case somebody needs a FeLV vet the name can be pulled from the record. It is helpful because not everybody is available at anytime but the list can be online 24/7. This is just a suggestion. I will stay in the forum and try to help if I can. Stan Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Tad's Sammy
I am so sorry Sammy was called away from you so suddenly. What a story-what a smart cat! What a loving creature. I am continuously amazed at the unselfishness of the people on this list who continue to rescue and care for these gentle (positive) cats. regards Barbara - Original Message - From: "Tad Burnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:21 PM Subject: Re: Tad's Sammy > Thank you all for the kind words about Sammy... > Sammy did have a full life and an interesting story... > He originally came to me as SD named after the > Suffuc Downs horse race track near Boston MA. > where he came from...When feeding the ferals there > there was one cat that came up to be patted and > picked up...They decided to rescue him and when > they brought a carrier for him he walked in himself... > > They brought him to the vet for a check up..FeLV+... > But he was such a good boy they decided to try > one time on the internet...I had spent some time > in that area years ago so I wrote back and said I > would take him... > > His teeth were all rotten and he had to be neutered > before I could bring him home but from the very > 1st moment that I saw him he was my cat..He joined > the others in my FeLV room with no problem at all > and he always slept by my head at night... > > He liked to sit in the window and watch outside... > He would have liked to go outside againBut > one day soon after I got him it was snowing > and he jumped in the window and took one look > and jumped back down...He knew what snow was > and didn't want to be outside that day > > A while later I got a call from the rescue person that > I had gotten him from and they found a worker at the > track that had asked about him...It seems there was > an old woman that had lived in one of the horse barns > and his name was Sammy and he had lived with the old > woman but she had cancer and had passed away... > The man was happy that Sammy had a good home > because he knew him from before. > > Sammy was old and I feed him special food which he > ate well but never put on much weight and he had > arthritis but he never showed any sign of anything > unusual until Saturday night when he didn't finish his food > the way he usually did and was shacking his head... > I thought it might be one of his remaining teeth... > Then on Sunday he just looked at his food but wouldn't > eat...An hour later I found him with blood coming out > of his mouthThe vet said to watch him and put me on > for early appointment for Monday morning.Monday > morning he couldn't close his mouth with a huge swelling > under his tongue... > > The vet said it was most likely a cancer tumor with a > burst blood vessel and the whole lower jaw was involved... > He would have had to remove the lower jaw to get rid > of it and because of his age he probably wouldn't have > made itHe was in pain and the only humain thing to > do was to help him on to the Rainbow Bridge > > It all happened so quickly that I was just studded by it all > and I miss my old friend but perhaps I will get to see him > again > > If you would add his name to the CLS list that would be nice.. > > Tad > > > >
Re: Please add my sister's cat Hamish to the Candlelight Service
thank you.I will let her know. actually I got the age wrong. good ole Hamish was 14 1/2 yrs old. - Original Message - From: Terri Brown To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 8:54 PM Subject: Re: Please add my sister's cat Hamish to the Candlelight Service My sincerest condolences to your sister. Goodnight, sweet Hamish... =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: Barbara Lowe To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 4:12 PM Subject: Please add my sister's cat Hamish to the Candlelight Service Hamish was a 12 year old part Maine Coone cat with a big heart and a big appetite. Even though he loved to roam in her backyard he never killed any birds. thank you. Barbara
Please add my sister's cat Hamish to the Candlelight Service
Hamish was a 12 year old part Maine Coone cat with a big heart and a big appetite. Even though he loved to roam in her backyard he never killed any birds. thank you. Barbara
Re: Jersey_question
just wondering if you saw these two on the felineleukemia website. never having been to Ohio i have no clue if they are close or far but maybe you could call them to see if they can recommend anyone nearer to you? Dr. Michele Messner and Dr. Julie Brown HeroldCreekside Animal Clinic4434 Akron/Wadsworth Road.Norton, Ohio 44203Phones. 330-334-5891 or 330-336-8873The Ohio State UniversityCollege of Veterinary Medicine101 Sisson Hall, 1900 Coffey RoadColumbus OH 43210Telephone: (614) 292-1171Fax: (614) 292-7185http://www.vet.ohio-state.edu/docs/ - Original Message - From: stany petrov To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 8:56 PM Subject: Re: Jersey_question Tracy, I will definitely make Jersey an indoor cat because he has FeLV+ and I care for the cats as a whole. To be honest, it is hard to get a professional vet without recs. The hospital I took Jersey was professional but they are very pessimistic and expensive also (I already paid there 400 for 2 visits). Once I get him successfuly on his back legs I will start looking for a professional in the FeLV. My zip code is 43607 (Toledo,OH, Detroit, MI). So, if anybody knows a qualified vet in radius 100- 150 miles, plase let me know. thanks again for the non- stopping assistance. Stan >From: "Weese, Tracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>Subject: Re: Jersey_question>Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 20:47:43 -0400>>I don't know how long this will take, but I have been reading your messages about Jersey and am hoping that he can recover. I do feel strongly that you should consider making in an indoor only cat considering his FeLV+ status and now this issue with his legs. I know people think this will be so hard on the cat, but I have taken several cats of various ages from farms and alleys and they have done just fine. It will be an adjustment at first. Maybe you have already done this and I'm just reading the messages which talk about when he was living in NYC.>>In any event. I hope he does get better. 2 cans of baby food is a lot more than many folks can get into their sick cats. And do try to find a vet that is a little more aggressive. Once you make it clear that you are not going to PTS just bec. a cat is FeLV+, then often the vet will get on board. Too often people just give up and so vets never really have to treat a FeLV+ cat beyond diagnosis.>>Tracy>>- Original Message ->From: stany petrov>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>Sent: 5/29/2005 8:31:31 PM>Subject: Re: Jersey_question>>>hi again,>One question for the weak back legs?>How long does it usually takes to make the cat use his/ her back legs again?>2- 3 days, week, 10 days?>thanks in advance>>Stan
Re: Jersey_question
try posting the question on www.petfinder.org website. they have bulletin boards where you can post about various topics and as I recall there is a health board so maybe if you put in your subject header-looking for great vet in Toledo Ohio--you might get some responses. Sometimes too it just takes a little aggressiveness on the pet owner's part to jumpstart a vet into action. call the vet's office and ask to speak to the vet you saw over the phone and state your case as Tracy suggested. (no need to make an appt to just state your determination.) If the vet says they can't help, then ask them to recommend a specialist. oh, also on petfinder site you can type in your zip code under rescue and shelter search and it'll bring up a list of rescues in your area. you could try calling any cat rescue that has special needs kitties and ask them for a vet reference. good luck. praying hard for Jersey. Barbara - Original Message - From: stany petrov To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 8:56 PM Subject: Re: Jersey_question Tracy, I will definitely make Jersey an indoor cat because he has FeLV+ and I care for the cats as a whole. To be honest, it is hard to get a professional vet without recs. The hospital I took Jersey was professional but they are very pessimistic and expensive also (I already paid there 400 for 2 visits). Once I get him successfuly on his back legs I will start looking for a professional in the FeLV. My zip code is 43607 (Toledo,OH, Detroit, MI). So, if anybody knows a qualified vet in radius 100- 150 miles, plase let me know. thanks again for the non- stopping assistance. Stan >From: "Weese, Tracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>Subject: Re: Jersey_question>Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 20:47:43 -0400>>I don't know how long this will take, but I have been reading your messages about Jersey and am hoping that he can recover. I do feel strongly that you should consider making in an indoor only cat considering his FeLV+ status and now this issue with his legs. I know people think this will be so hard on the cat, but I have taken several cats of various ages from farms and alleys and they have done just fine. It will be an adjustment at first. Maybe you have already done this and I'm just reading the messages which talk about when he was living in NYC.>>In any event. I hope he does get better. 2 cans of baby food is a lot more than many folks can get into their sick cats. And do try to find a vet that is a little more aggressive. Once you make it clear that you are not going to PTS just bec. a cat is FeLV+, then often the vet will get on board. Too often people just give up and so vets never really have to treat a FeLV+ cat beyond diagnosis.>>Tracy>>- Original Message ->From: stany petrov>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>Sent: 5/29/2005 8:31:31 PM>Subject: Re: Jersey_question>>>hi again,>One question for the weak back legs?>How long does it usually takes to make the cat use his/ her back legs again?>2- 3 days, week, 10 days?>thanks in advance>>Stan
Re: Jersey
here is a link to a poem that offers some solace. http://rainbowsbridge.com/Poem.htm - Original Message - From: stany petrov To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 4:50 PM Subject: Re: Jersey Barbara, I have Jersey from the semi- beginning when he was a baby. I just learned him to walk outside and get home. I lived in Brooklyn for 1 and a half years before I moved to Ohio. Here, he was fine till late January when he started sneezing and one of his eyes got red. The temp. was high. I took him to a vet (another one) twice. He put some shots and gave him antibiotics. Jersey got better but not exactly as before. The temp. was about 102.4- 102.5 and I let him out again. He likes hiking and if I lock the cat door he is starting to meow and scratch and tear the things around him. So, that was in March. And finally in late April, early May he started going outside and stay home which is not a good indicator for him. Finally he started loosing weight and walking hard with his back legs. I will stop visiting this vet and try to feed him more but...I hardly think he will survive. His kidneys are a little bit arger than the normal and he has the symptom of the Polysyst Kidney disease- drinking lots of water and loosing weight and appetite. I am confused. He cannot move at all already (just for a week, unbelievable). Thanks again Stan>From: Barbara Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>Subject: Re: Jersey>Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 09:58:42 -0400>>just a thought, i give one of my cats (who is negative for leuekmia)>postassium citrate to ward off any more bouts of his oxalate crystals. the>other cats get MegaC plus but that's not advised for oxalate. I buy it in>capsule form and fortunately this cat, Puff, loves those Pill Pockets i get>at the pet store so can just hide the pill in that. the other cats' meds I>just open the capsules and mix in their wet food very very thoroughly.>what are some natural sources of potassium besides bananas? and would a cat>even eat a banana or is it even good for them?>>another thought, how long has jersey been in your care? did you tell the vet>his past history-outdoor cat, possible exposure to raccoons, etc? when you>got him, was he able to walk/run around? or was he already slowing down?>what is that disease raccoons supposedly transmit that the vets advise>getting vaccinations for? if it affects dogs, does it also pertain to cats?>Is this cat even getting up to use the litter box?>sorry Jersey's legs are not improving.>regards>Barbara>- Original Message ->From: "Belinda Sauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>To: >Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:34 AM>Subject: Re: Jersey>>> > Hi Stan,> >Jersey's potassium is low, he needs some potassium, your vet should> > have told you that, I'm sorry but as long as your seeing this vet Jersey> > is in serious trouble.> >>>>>
Re: Jersey
the coincidence today--while walking my dog around my neighborhood--another neighbor came up to warn me he recently had to take his dog to the ER for treatment for the raccoon caused disease--and the dog's symptoms sound alot like Jersey's. the disease sounds like lepto-something. also the drinking lots of water losing weight also sounds like cushing's disease that my dog from years ago had. no cure but there is treatment. I am so sorry Jersey is not doing well. barbara - Original Message - From: stany petrov To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 4:50 PM Subject: Re: Jersey Barbara, I have Jersey from the semi- beginning when he was a baby. I just learned him to walk outside and get home. I lived in Brooklyn for 1 and a half years before I moved to Ohio. Here, he was fine till late January when he started sneezing and one of his eyes got red. The temp. was high. I took him to a vet (another one) twice. He put some shots and gave him antibiotics. Jersey got better but not exactly as before. The temp. was about 102.4- 102.5 and I let him out again. He likes hiking and if I lock the cat door he is starting to meow and scratch and tear the things around him. So, that was in March. And finally in late April, early May he started going outside and stay home which is not a good indicator for him. Finally he started loosing weight and walking hard with his back legs. I will stop visiting this vet and try to feed him more but...I hardly think he will survive. His kidneys are a little bit arger than the normal and he has the symptom of the Polysyst Kidney disease- drinking lots of water and loosing weight and appetite. I am confused. He cannot move at all already (just for a week, unbelievable). Thanks again Stan>From: Barbara Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>Subject: Re: Jersey>Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 09:58:42 -0400>>just a thought, i give one of my cats (who is negative for leuekmia)>postassium citrate to ward off any more bouts of his oxalate crystals. the>other cats get MegaC plus but that's not advised for oxalate. I buy it in>capsule form and fortunately this cat, Puff, loves those Pill Pockets i get>at the pet store so can just hide the pill in that. the other cats' meds I>just open the capsules and mix in their wet food very very thoroughly.>what are some natural sources of potassium besides bananas? and would a cat>even eat a banana or is it even good for them?>>another thought, how long has jersey been in your care? did you tell the vet>his past history-outdoor cat, possible exposure to raccoons, etc? when you>got him, was he able to walk/run around? or was he already slowing down?>what is that disease raccoons supposedly transmit that the vets advise>getting vaccinations for? if it affects dogs, does it also pertain to cats?>Is this cat even getting up to use the litter box?>sorry Jersey's legs are not improving.>regards>Barbara>- Original Message ->From: "Belinda Sauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>To: >Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:34 AM>Subject: Re: Jersey>>> > Hi Stan,> >Jersey's potassium is low, he needs some potassium, your vet should> > have told you that, I'm sorry but as long as your seeing this vet Jersey> > is in serious trouble.> >>>>>
Re: Jamie
Title: Message i also advise letting your vet know you will be picking up the ashes when you are able. I went thru a horrible experience with my ex-vet office concerning Jelly Roll's ashes. the vet's office only defense was 1-their backroom was crowded with hundreds of containers of ashes of people's pets that had never been picked up. you don't need furher trauma of thinking your pet's ashes have been lost. and yes, the crematoriums here offer the service of delivering to somewhere other than the vet's office. sorry again for your loss. barbara - Original Message - From: Tracy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 9:46 AM Subject: Jamie Just let your vet know that it might take you a few days or even a week or so before you can pick up the ashes. Having dealt with this too many times myself, I make sure they know that I know that the ashes are back, but I can't come in right awayif your vet/vet office is at all compassionate, they will understand. I think it took me nearly two weeks to pick up Heathen's ashes--he was my first very own dog and we had been through a lot together--I had to PTS just around his 14th birthday and I was devastated. I sort of have a routine with getting the ashes. I take a few days or so to retrieve them, then when I get them home, I don't immediately take them out of the bigger box and put them with the others. They sort of just hang out on my desk or some place, and then when I'm ready, I take the ashes/container out of the cardboard box and write the pet's name on the bottom and put them with the others. I think having a routine helps. Tracy - Original Message - From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: 5/28/2005 9:37:16 AM Subject: RE: Recent losses My heart goes out to all of you--Jamie, Marlene and Michelle. I just wanted to add that I think it is a tremendous amount to ask, to expect a grieving pet owner to go to the vet clinic and pick up the ashes of a beloved pet, when every other time you went through that door it was with hope, and with a pet that was still living and breathing. The associations are too strong, emotions too charged. The first time I had to have a pet euthanized was at the emergency clinic last Thanksgiving, and befuddled though I was, I knew there was no way I could bring myself to go and pick up ashes from my vet clinic. I would have been a mess in the clinic. I asked to have them delivered to my workplace instead. The vet tech was surprised and questioned my request, but to me it was a no-brainer. The ashes arrived in a plain brown box while I was busy doing other stuff, and it allowed me to delay my grief until I got home. I don't know why vets don't do this as a matter of routine? Is there someone that could go in your place, perhaps, Jamie? I totally understand your dread. Thinking of you all, Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jamie LawsSent: Friday, May 27, 2005 9:22 PMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Recent losses I am trying to step out of my own grief and offer condolences to others who have had losses. Michelle and Marlene, I think we have just had a rough week. Michelle lost both Fern and Pepsi on Sunday, I lost Andy on Monday, and Marlene lost Digby on Tuesday. I just got the call today from the vet that Andy's ashes are back and I can pick him up when I am ready. But I just couldn't do it today. I may go in the morning. I don't know why I am dreading that part so much. Anyway, I just wanted to tell you both how very sorry I am for your incredible losses. I can empathize with you and my heart aches with yours. Jamie __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Jersey
and after reading the starving cat posts, maybe getting nutra-cal into Jersey might be a good idea? - Original Message - From: "Belinda Sauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:34 AM Subject: Re: Jersey > Hi Stan, >Jersey's potassium is low, he needs some potassium, your vet should > have told you that, I'm sorry but as long as your seeing this vet Jersey > is in serious trouble. > > -- > Belinda > Happiness is being owned by cats ... > > Be-Mi-Kitties ... > http://www.bemikitties.com > > Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens > http://adopt.bemikitties.com > > FeLV Candle Light Service > http://www.bemikitties.com/cls > > HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) > http://HostDesign4U.com > > --- > > BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) > http://bmk.bemikitties.com > >
Re: Jersey
just a thought, i give one of my cats (who is negative for leuekmia) postassium citrate to ward off any more bouts of his oxalate crystals. the other cats get MegaC plus but that's not advised for oxalate. I buy it in capsule form and fortunately this cat, Puff, loves those Pill Pockets i get at the pet store so can just hide the pill in that. the other cats' meds I just open the capsules and mix in their wet food very very thoroughly. what are some natural sources of potassium besides bananas? and would a cat even eat a banana or is it even good for them? another thought, how long has jersey been in your care? did you tell the vet his past history-outdoor cat, possible exposure to raccoons, etc? when you got him, was he able to walk/run around? or was he already slowing down? what is that disease raccoons supposedly transmit that the vets advise getting vaccinations for? if it affects dogs, does it also pertain to cats? Is this cat even getting up to use the litter box? sorry Jersey's legs are not improving. regards Barbara - Original Message - From: "Belinda Sauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:34 AM Subject: Re: Jersey > Hi Stan, >Jersey's potassium is low, he needs some potassium, your vet should > have told you that, I'm sorry but as long as your seeing this vet Jersey > is in serious trouble. >
Re: Jenn/your posts-a question
stil the dark background but more easily read type font. thanks.
Re: Jenn/your posts-a question
this worked for me and no dark background either. thanks. barbara
Re: Worried about Michelle
oh my gosh, I am so sorry, Michelle. We are so lucky we get to love so many beautiful wonderful creatures in our lifetime but it doesn't make it any easier when they cross the bridge. I pray that you find solace in the memory of their spirits. Barbara - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:03 PM Subject: Re: Worried about Michelle Fern died on Sunday, the same day as Pepsi. Thank you for your concern. Michelle In a message dated 5/26/05 9:02:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I. too have been worried about Michelle, Poor girl, having to face so MANY abdolutely terrible illness/diseases with her babies.. And losing Prpsi. I jusy pray Ginger is improving and Fern, is gomfortable. too many major health issues going on. Mu heart goes out to her and her furkids, and I continure to pray. Patti
Re: Jersey
was just about to sign off for the night then saw your question on transfusions. i had 2 different experiences with blood transfusions. one was with a less than year old cat with leukemia and it was two days before xmas. Lenny(the cat) perhaps had a week of quality life with us before we had to let her be put to sleep. the 2nd cat Jelly Roll again perhaps a week or two before he also crashed. I would not have traded that time with them for anything. I am surprised at how cheap your vet says a transfusion is. perhaps because I am in NY where it just seems everything is just so damn expensive. I would make sure the vet types your cat's blood. it must get a matching blood type--I forget if there's a subgroup to cat's blood--I just know my second cat had a very rare blood type. I know others on the list had also had blood transfusions for their cats and can give their opinions. I'd still go for a second opinion if you do not feel this vet is up to date on treatment of leukemia. again good luck and good night, thank you for caring for Jersey. I know how stressful it can be. barbara
Re: Digby has passed ....
I am so sorry and angry that another beautiful fur child has succumbed to this crappy unfair virus. I wish you peace and comfort in your memories of Digby. regards Barbara
Re: Jersey
usually insurance does not cover pre-existing conditions from what I remember of my research of insurance for pets. did the insurance require your cat have a full exam before approval or did the insurance co. just take your money? if you didn't know jersey had leukemia until after you purchased the insurance then it might be covered. you have to read the fine print on those insurance policies. when you say you chose the vet from the list, I'm guessing you mean the insurance co. gave you a list of vets? I'd follow Jen's very good suggestions as to how to quiz a vet on their feelings towards leukemia. good luck barbara - Original Message - From: stany petrov To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Jersey Thanks a lot Barbara. I just chose the vet from the list. I can afford to pay let's say 500- 600. By the way, I have a pet insuarance but it is from a month ago. I don't know if they cover past diseases? Does anybody know about that? I mean, insuarance companies have lots of protection. I am going to talk with another vet probably. He is moving hard, but can walk to the litterbox. I am picking him today and keep feeding him with the baby food... Stan >From: Barbara Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>Subject: Re: Jersey>Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:51:52 -0400>>sorry. I have no experience with CRF or Jersey's problem of weak back legs. what do the cat owners on the CRF say? has anyone there offered any helpful info or suggestions?>Have you asked your vet for referral to a specialist(if you can afford the vet fees?)---don't be worried about hurting your vet's feelings in asking to discuss Jersey with another vet. has anyone on the CRF list recommended a vet in your area?>>why did the vet suggest euthanasia?>It has been discussed on this list before I believe--the reasons for considering being a beloved pet to sleep. hopefully someone else can post them for you--i just got back from a platelets donation so kinda tired. also many of us have our own personal criteria for judging when an animal is no longer enjoying life. frankly if your cat is eating, I would consider that a good sign. is he getting nutrients from the food--when my dog had cancer, her bowel movements were proof her food was not being digested properly adding to her weakened condition. is Jersey able to have movements? is he able to get around on his own at all? someone on the CRF group should be able to recommend a form of phosphorus for your cat. A cat testing postive for feline leukemia is not reason enough to put to sleep an animal though sadly many vets still feel that because their training has been that the pet will die anyway sooner or later.>Not knowing why you selected this particular vet I can offer no answer if the vet is qualified. was the vet recommended to you? is there perhaps a veterinary school in your state? can you ask your vet to explain better what she means by the problem is somewhere between the kidneys?>perhaps there might be some info on the www.holisticat.com website. I believe the founder of the site-her cat was crf also. there is an archive you can look through--and also a mailing list to join if you so desire to ask questions and for help.>good luck. remember to enjoy your time with Jersey and not worry yourself all the time so that you lose what time you have with him. I know it's easier said than done but allow yourself time to just love your pet.>barbara>> - Original Message -> From: stany petrov> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 12:57 PM> Subject: Re: Jersey>>> I have bad news form the vet. she said the problem was somewhere beteen the kidneys. I am confused. Is the leukimia really causing everything or the doctor cannot find the reason?>> Yestereday he was eating good and looked good. Are the doctors really qualified enough?>> She offered me euthanesia.>> I am not going to accept, but I am very confused.>> What might cause the deficiency in the back legs if not the kidney CRF???>> Stan>>>>>>
Jenn/your posts-a question
Hi Jenn, i don't know if it's just me(and getting older) but the dark background and small type is hard to read. can you change your font(is that the right word?) (or computer illiterate me--is there a way I can change it?) thanks, barbara
Re: Jersey
sorry. I have no experience with CRF or Jersey's problem of weak back legs. what do the cat owners on the CRF say? has anyone there offered any helpful info or suggestions? Have you asked your vet for referral to a specialist(if you can afford the vet fees?)---don't be worried about hurting your vet's feelings in asking to discuss Jersey with another vet. has anyone on the CRF list recommended a vet in your area? why did the vet suggest euthanasia? It has been discussed on this list before I believe--the reasons for considering being a beloved pet to sleep. hopefully someone else can post them for you--i just got back from a platelets donation so kinda tired. also many of us have our own personal criteria for judging when an animal is no longer enjoying life. frankly if your cat is eating, I would consider that a good sign. is he getting nutrients from the food--when my dog had cancer, her bowel movements were proof her food was not being digested properly adding to her weakened condition. is Jersey able to have movements? is he able to get around on his own at all? someone on the CRF group should be able to recommend a form of phosphorus for your cat. A cat testing postive for feline leukemia is not reason enough to put to sleep an animal though sadly many vets still feel that because their training has been that the pet will die anyway sooner or later. Not knowing why you selected this particular vet I can offer no answer if the vet is qualified. was the vet recommended to you? is there perhaps a veterinary school in your state? can you ask your vet to explain better what she means by the problem is somewhere between the kidneys? perhaps there might be some info on the www.holisticat.com website. I believe the founder of the site-her cat was crf also. there is an archive you can look through--and also a mailing list to join if you so desire to ask questions and for help. good luck. remember to enjoy your time with Jersey and not worry yourself all the time so that you lose what time you have with him. I know it's easier said than done but allow yourself time to just love your pet. barbara - Original Message - From: stany petrov To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 12:57 PM Subject: Re: Jersey I have bad news form the vet. she said the problem was somewhere beteen the kidneys. I am confused. Is the leukimia really causing everything or the doctor cannot find the reason? Yestereday he was eating good and looked good. Are the doctors really qualified enough? She offered me euthanesia. I am not going to accept, but I am very confused. What might cause the deficiency in the back legs if not the kidney CRF??? Stan
Re: Jersey
glad to hear Jersey is liking the baby food. you can try mixing a little of regular cat food or the science diet a/d into the baby food to gradually wean him off it so he can start getting his full proper nutrients. gradually he'll hopefully go back to regular cat food. it does take time to wean them off the taste sometimes but then that's why cats are catshas the CRF group been any help? Barbara
can we drop the kittykind subject?
I don't want to sound cold about this but frankly i've been deleting all these messages now. Unless anyone is directly involved with helping resolve this issue with the volunteers and foster homes left in the lurch, why is all this time being spent debating this theoretically? If there is a point, then by all means continue your discussion but shouldn't it be done off this forum? don't mean to sound cranky--just been fighting a hacking cough for weeks now and taking care of my furkids on very little sleep. barbara
Mia
it costs over $100 to cremate an animal here on Long Island. I don't know of any vet that will just take a dead animal for no money. I can imagine the same $ charge in NJ. I also cannot even imagine how adrift many of the kittykind volunteers and foster homes feel right now. Hopefully someone in the group is well informed/experienced enough to regroup and get the currently fostered animals permanent homes. (does it sound funny to say that while I volunteer for a rescue group I really never wanted any human contact with them because I felt many were borderline crazy--I would just go pick up the kittens/cats that needed fostering and bring them back when there was openings. Also I knew if I stuck around the shelter, I would get conned into other chores/duties). Also because my dad was in advertising, he always always warned me never ever believe everything I read in print. I did not see any televised broadcasts of the seized animals but I know how newspapers and tv news distorts information for ratings. If I were involved with kittykind I'd be calling those same tv newspeople and asking for airtime to show the healthy foster animals still needing homes. Barbara
Re: Jersey
Hello, I assume your vet ran a complete blood work on Jersey which discovered the virus. How long has your cat not been eating cat food? Ask your vet for the Science Diet a/d cans. Many of the science diet canned foods are too dry-I know my cats will not eat any of it. the a/d cans are very very soft food--perhaps Jersey will like that. You can try putting some on a spoon and smearing it along the side of his mouth so he will be at least taste it and perhaps be tempted. Also baby food jars-beef, chicken, lamb might tempt Jersey to eat. make sure no onions in the ingredients. I agree with Belinda's suggestion to go to the Chronic Renal Failure CRF group for advice. How experienced is your vet with leukemia treatments? Ask if there is a specialist vet in the area? May I ask, what state are you in? perhaps someone on the list can recommend a vet. Good luck taking care of Jersey. He is lucky he found you. regards Barbara - Original Message - From: stany petrov To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:32 AM Subject: Re: Jersey Hi Belinda, Thanks for the information. I am going to take Jersey to the vet tomorrow. I took him on Friday, they kept him in the clinic for tests and the doctor called me in the evening. I was shoked to hear he has a leukimia and could hardly catch what she was explaining me. I am going to talk with her tomorrow afternoon. Now, I give Jersey some yoke and cream cheese. He rejects the diet food from the vet. He likes margarine but I use that only to give him some vitamins. I cannot believe that disease is so spread in the USA. In Bulgaria, where I come from I have never heard for cat cancer. Cats usually die from accidents or age. I am really amazed to read that 60 million cats in the US carry this virus. Something has to be done. Thanks again. Keep in touch Stan>From: Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>Subject: Re: Jersey>Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 08:12:50 -0700>> Hi Stan,> There is a CRF (chronic renal failure) group on Yahoo you may want >to join, I've heard of kitties with crf that get weak in the back >legs it has something to do with the potassium level. Here is the >group if your interested. CRF can be managed if caugh early enough, >it usually requires a diet change and careful monitoring.>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FelineCRF/>>Also you have to be sure Jersey is getting enough food or your >asking for a whole different group of complications. What treatment >has your vet suggested?>>-->Belinda>Happiness is being owned by cats ...>>Be-Mi-Kitties ...>http://www.bemikitties.com>>Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens>http://adopt.bemikitties.com>>FeLV Candle Light Service>http://www.bemikitties.com/cls>>HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design)>http://HostDesign4U.com>>--->>BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)>http://bmk.bemikitties.com>>
Re: maybe OT - article for newsletter
i had never heard of the story. here's one link to it http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:ff8NDb8RLrAJ:cats.about.com/cs/kittencare/a/freekittuns.htm+jim+willis+free+kittens&hl=en - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 1:17 PM Subject: Re: maybe OT - article for newsletter Glo, Do you have access to Jim Willis's writings? He's got a web site. I contacted him personally a couple of years ago and he does not mind, rather he ENCOURAGES people to use his work as humane educational tools. I still give out copies of "Free Kittuns" every year during kitten season. (Like now) I usually distribute a few hundred, and that's just LOCALLY. Check his writings out. I am sure you will find something appropriate that you can use. Just prepare yourself & have the kleenex available! Patti
Re: Here's a nice story for you
wish you good luck with this baby crow. i have been dreading my afternoon walks with my dog because i know this is the season for nature's babies. even if i try to vary our routine, we always seem to find the half dead baby snake, birds, squirrels, etc. barbara
Re: stitch
All these little furbuddies make our lives so special. I never will understand why people are afraid to love an animal or could care less about having one in their homes. We are blessed with their love and Stitch loved you and knew he was loved. take care, Barbara - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:02 AM Subject: Re: stitch > > My little buddy is gone... > i never had the chance to take him home for one last play session. > shortly after my arrival he became excited and was really struggling to breath. it was time for stitch to finally go to a better place. It took only 39 days from the first onset of his symptoms. in the end even the CCNU could not save him. It was a tough fight and now it is time for both of us to rest. thanks again to everyone for all their support! You have all made a huge difference >
Re: Please send prayers for my dog Fern and my horse Pepsi
I am so sorry you have so much illness affecting your beloved animals. My dog Maddy died last June from cancer so I know something of what you are going through. Your beautiful animal companions! I wish you and them comfort in the coming days. Barbara
Re: 'Bout time! Hartz exposed...
my local grocery store put up a big display of hartz meds and I want to print out info to hand to the store mgr. as the firm is family owned and they will hopefully pay attention. (wasn't it on 60 mins tv news show years ago how hartz was owned by IBM (italian business men) or had ties to it? barbara - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 5:16 PM Subject: OT: 'Bout time! Hartz exposed... I just caught a preview of a news segment that will be covered tonight on our local news...A family will be discussing the loss of their kitten to an over-the-counter medication...and even though some of the product label was blurred out, the product in question was definitely identifiable as Hartz flea and tick medication! Hooray! I can't believe it's taken this long to get the news out to the public...this stuff is dangerous!! Jen "But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan George
Re: stitch
fingers crossed and praying. how much we come to love these little furballs. hoping and praying for yours. Barbara - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 7:15 PM Subject: Re: stitch > > well stitch took a turn for the worse on sunday when his lymphoma came out of remission. he will start the ccnu if his CBC comes back with a good white blood cell count. keep your fingers crossed >
Re: possibly-positive pregnant girl needs foster
i could raise some funds for a condo cage if necessary. (i'm in ny so no way can take them plus have some in my "isolation" room anyway barbara - Original Message - From: "TenHouseCats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FeLVTalk" Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: possibly-positive pregnant girl needs foster > a michigan rescue group is swamped right now with mamas and kittens, > mamas-to-be, and dealing with the long-term care needs of 30+ kitties > from a collector situation. > > a pregnant coonie girl was just pulled from a shelter that sells to > research; she has tested faint positive on the snap test. she has > giardia and coccidia (two of MY personal favorites!), but is otherwise > in great shape--her coat is dense and luxurious, she's well fed, > probably tossed out due to her pregnancy. does ANYONE have space to > foster her for retesting/having her kittens? i've got one mom with > kittens now, am expecting another this weekend, as well as two > moms-to-be--the only thing keeping me from bringing her into the > nursery with the rest is lack of an additional condo-cage! so she's > not really in danger, but it'd be great if someone else could take > here in so we could free up more foster space! > > you all know where to find me > > -- > MaryChristine > > AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ: 289856892 >
Re: OT - a sort of funny cat rescue story
i had read this years ago and still howl--thanks for the link w/ the update. barbara - Original Message - From: "BONNIE J KALMBACH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 2:57 PM Subject: OT - a sort of funny cat rescue story > This story is a couple of years old; a friend at work just showed it to > me. > > > http://muttcats.com/articles/garbage_disposal_cat.htm > > >
Akira
Lisa, I am so sorry. We are never ready for their time when it comes. I hope the passing is peaceful. I am glad for you that you found her and knew such love. blessed be, Barbara
Re: Cat's Life & Death - Let's make it count!!
i voted! 42% thought it was too high. we need to show those idiots! and don't you just love the dog owner's comment--dogs and cats are natural enemies... meanwhile my dog frasier has Puff Daddy sleeping against his back and Princess who got tired of waiting for me to go to bed is sleeping on top of his head instead of mine. - Original Message - From: Belinda Sauro To: FeLV Talk List [New] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 10:06 PM Subject: OT: Cat's Life & Death - Let's make it count!! Hi All, Here is an award handed out by a local judge in Seattle, even if you don't live here please vote. There's a poll on the page -- take a sec and vote so it's clear to readers that plenty of us think that a cat's life is worth at least this much.http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002268301_yofi09m.html -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger
going thru my cat care books. one mentions Biodent-a good general nutritional supplement to benefit the mouth.a human product but vet can order. contains bone meal, carrot powder, spleen and other nutrients that create a healthier chemisty in tissue of mouth. takes time to work. for inflamed gums, the topical application of an herbal combinatin called Echinacea-goldenseal supreme by gaia herbs-saurate a Q tip with the liquid and run along gum line once a day or if condition severe, twice a day. (tho as I recall, echinacea made my cats foam at mouth...the taste.) anitra frzier mentions an herbal remedy to soothe and heal sore and bleeding gums--add 1/4 teaspooon salt to 1/2 cup strong lukewarm calendula and pat on gums with a cotton ball. herbal remedies are usualy taken 3-4 times a day, one to two teaspoons of tea for a cat, 1/2 t. for a kitten. another book mentions calendula for general gum care-purchase a bottle of the mother tincture-put 6 drops in 1 oz of distilled water --if gums are infected already, use a cotton swab padded with extra cotton(from a cotton ball)so tht it soaks up the liquid. (brushing would only irritate gums more). cover both inside and outside of the gums(I guess they mean both sides of the teeth)with the calendula. hope some of this helps. calendula is usually easy to find in a good health food store. interesting footnotes that the vets seem to feel they see teeth problems more in certain breeds and colors. redheaded cats have more gingivitis than other cats. purebreds more at risk-tho maine coons have less problems than abyssinians and persians. My Mr. Bean is red and he ws the first one to exhibit the gum and tooth problems. barbara - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 12:19 PM Subject: Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger > I am taking her to an internist on Monday, and also plan to call Monday > morning to the veterinary dentist office near here to get her an emergency > appointment if necessary. I want to talk to the internist first, in case there is > something going on with that lymph node in her chest, but I am thinking more and > more that it is her teeth (and hoping that is what it is). She is extremely > playful, back to jumping some after I got food into her (maybe she was weak from > not having much food in her), and very happy. She also tries to eat a little > piece or lick and then just licks her mouth and lips. When she plays and > bites on whatever she is playing with, she does the same thing with her mouth. So > I am starting to think her gums just hurt a lot. I also read that protein in > the urine can come from bad gum infections. > Michelle > > > In a message dated 5/6/05 10:35:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Hi Michelle, > >I'm sorry Gunger is having such a hard time. When bailey's > > stomastisis was at it's worse he was losing weight, he didn't stop > > eating completely but he was eating much less that was OK, and after he > > had lost about a pound over a month or so is when I decided none of the > > other things we were trying were working and we pulled his teeth. > > > Bad teeth can cause serious infections, and if it is bad enough probably > > hurts enough to make eating painful. I know a tooth ache is one of the > > few things I can't tolerate well and I have a very high pain tolerence. > > Are you planning on getting her teeth cleaned soon? > > >> > >
Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger
mr. bean (my postiive who has since turned negative) started terrible drooling(and then slurping up the spittle or even more fun, shaking his head and spraying me) and could not eat even his canned food. tookhim to vet and he had terribly inflamed gums. the meds didn't help so he started pulling teeth. that's when i went online and started researching and found out about stomatitis and leukemia. told the vet test him and sure enough, he ws postiive. the teeth pulling helped along with the med antirobe aquadrops-liquid clindamycin hydrochloride. i also started him on megaC plus and vit e, a and d, my chinese alt. med vet had him on immune booster pills and oh heck i forget what the white powder stuff was called but i got it from glyconutrients co. online when discovered it much cheaper there. I am so sorry you are having so much stress now worrying about all your beloved animals. wish I was closer so could help somehow. the teeth problem could also be making her nauseous which might account for lack of appetite. did you look thru the www.holisticat.com archives for any help? regards Barbara > > I am hoping this all just has to do with her mouth and can be resolved, but I > really am worried. > **Has anyone had a cat with dental disease completely stop eating and do the > lip licking thing when you try to give food???*** > > Thanks, > Michelle >
Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger
i had sent my well wishes before you posted the complete story. it does sound like her teeth and gums are the problem and the gingivitis could also be causing stomatitis. is she drooling? did you try yogurt? and I agree with Barb--my cats will jump on whoever has just returned from the vet or clinic because of the strange smells. sending more healing thoughts for Ginger. barbara - Original Message - From: Barb Moermond To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger It sounds like her teeth and gums are the things that need fixing, at least short-term. Her mouth might just be too painful for her to deal with it. Lucy probably attacked her because she smelled like the emergency clinic- my boys have done that to each other on the few occasions they've gone separately. I would definitely keep an eye on the lump, but I think her mouth is the problem at the moment. Keeping your family in our thoughts.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ginger, my 6 year old positive, did not seem to want to eat last night and this morning at 6 am licked her lips when I gave her baby food and only ate a few licks-- she would normally go crazy for it. I took her in to the emergency room. Her blood work was all normal except her protein was a little high. Her xrays were normal except there was a little something showing where the lymph node in the chest is. The radiologist said it is either fat, which frequently collects there and Ginger is fat, or the beginnings of an enlarged lymph node there which could indicate lymphoma. Her gums are super-inflamed and her teeth in terrible shape. They gave me antibiotics for her mouth, gave her Pepcid before we left, and said to give her fluids. They chipped some of the stuff off her teeth. She was very stressed while there.Upon coming home she ate a jar of baby food. My cat Lucy then started viciously attacking her-- which she has never done, and Ginger has been hiding from her. I gave her a vial of feline interferon for the first time, have an ultrasound scheduled for Monday if she does not get better, and am praying. I tried to give her fluids and she turned into a wildebeast-- I have given many cats fluids in my life, and Gray was helping, and we could not get more than 10 ml or so into her. I tried giving her more food, including more baby food, and she would not eat it. Actually, she tried a few licks of baby food and then started moving her mouth and throat funny like it was stuck in her mouth or throat, which of course is impossible with baby food, and then she walked away. She played with me a little, but is not herself at all. She does not have diarrhea. She is a little dehydrated, which I guess I will try to fix by getting more baby food in her since I can not get fluids into her.If anyone thinks this sounds familiar and has any idea what is going on, please tell me. I hope it is not lymphoma, and to tell the truth it seems odd to me that beginning stages of lymphoma in the chest would make her not want to eat. Please send prayers and energy.Thanks,MichelleBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Yahoo! Mail MobileTake Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.
Michelle, Ginger
Michelle, I hope Ginger improves. Take care of yourself and your furkid. Barbara
Re: False Positive
She might have tested postive because she had been exposed to Smeagol(sharing litter boxes, mutual cleaning) but now has shed the virus. be sure to read all the info and links on the leukemia website. It can be very scary to face but with information you will feel more confident. I would think the vet would wait 3 months before retesting. Which test did the vet give her? Was Moxie a litter mate to Smeagol? I am so sorry you lost him. We all here on this list know how crappy this virus is and have faced losses of our furkids also. Try to take some comfort that Smeagol is now pain free and now running and playing beyond the Rainbow bridge. I would suggest you go thru the archives for info on supplements and vitamins for Moxie--I have a mixed household-only one postive now and 6 negatives. One of my other cats was a positive but after several years of MegaPlus vitamin C, vit E and feeding him a better quality diet of canned food like Wellness, Eagle brand holistic, Petguard NOT grocery store stuff, he tested negative. surprised the heck out of my vet. I would also suggest you go to the www.holisticat.com website and scroll thru their archives for info. Welcome to the group--you will find very supportive people. it might just be quiet during this mother's day weekend but I am sure others will email you. Barbara - Original Message - From: "Dawn Ritzke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:51 PM Subject: False Positive > About 3 weeks ago my 10 month old kitty, Smeagol, died from feline leukemia. > I was unaware he even had leukemia. The vet never checked him for > leukemia. At that time I had my other kitten, Moxie retested. She was > tested at birth and was negative. Three weeks ago she came back positive. > I recently had her retested again and this time she came back negative. I > am going to have her tested again in one month. She is very healthy. I > understand the chance of a false positive is about 3%. I am not very > familar with feline leukemia. Does anyone have any advice or suggestions. > > _ > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® > Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > >
Re: Re Akira needs prayers
I am so sorry your Akira is not doing well. My cats never let the vet techs feed them if they feeling even a little bit poorly. are you allowed to go in and visit? Just remember to breathe. I know -we all know--how cruel and unfair this virus can be---our furfriends can be doing fine and then we blink and they are sick. pulling for Akira to perk up. Remember she loves you. Barbara
Re: Thank you - Jada won BEST IN SHOW
Title: Message yeay my sister got 30 co workers to vote after I emailed her--even tho most of them are "itty bitty fluffy dog" owners so will forward this good news to her. Good luck on adoption event. - Original Message - From: Doljan, Joan To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' ; 'Janice Ventura' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; 'Ellen E. Hutzel' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; 'maggie raywood' Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 7:21 AM Subject: Thank you - Jada won BEST IN SHOW Jada, the pit-bull mix from the shelter I volunteer with, besides winning the popular vote, just won Best In Show. Jada's owner put in a plug for the shelter and our upcoming adoption event. Also, they will do a story about Jada in Dog Magazine. Thank you again for your support, Joan
Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral
will someone explain to me why my two half ferals will let me pet them at 6 am when they wake me up in the morning but run if I so much as peek in the same room they're in any other time? AND those rotten furkids. my son's friend came for a visit from college-never saw her in their lives and the female cat climbed up on her lap for pets and a nap. argghhh! they also love my friend who has their two siblings since they were 20 wks old(now 6 yrs old). - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:12 PM Subject: Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral In a message dated 5/4/2005 3:43:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: one of my favorite warped thingsto do is sneak up on her and pet her because i KNOW it's largelyan act. her name, appropriately enough, is sybil. That made me laugh! And brought back "happy" memories too. We had a couple of feral boys that I "befriended". One on one in private they allowed me to actually stroke them, and even pick them up on occassion. Loved those boys... And their names were Damien & Diablo! Had to chuckle at Sybil's name. How appropriate. I used to do that too, "sneak" up & stroke them. (And they did like it!) I'm with youcats are great at acting!! Patti
Re: kitty logjam - carrier anecdote
exactly! I will bring up the carrier for an upcoming vet visit, leave it open on teh table adn everybody wants to get in there. I swear no matter how much lead time I give it-even hours, they know how to read my footsteps that mean "going to the vet" and it's like they all activate their "cloaking devices" and disappear--except of course for the only one who's not going to the vet barbara - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:16 PM Subject: Re: kitty logjam - carrier anecdote That is too funny! But isn't it something that if you happen to leave a carrier out, they all seem to "fight" to get in it. But when it's time for a vet visit and the carrier comes out, they all disappear! Cats, I'll never figure them out! I think that's why I love them so much...the element of "mystery". Patti
Re: Mikey
Oh gosh Leah, I am so sorry. poor brave little guy. the only thing that consoles me after losing a furkid is knowing they are running free of pain and problems over the bridge adn just waiting to pounce on us when it is our turn to cross. Hope you will cherish the time you had with him and I;m glad Bubba is there to "hug" you. Barbara
Re: Thank you - Jada gets to compete on Friday
Title: Message Yeay! good luck! barbara - Original Message - From: Doljan, Joan To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; 'Janice Ventura' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; Niki Dawson ; 'maggie raywood' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:35 AM Subject: Thank you - Jada gets to compete on Friday Thank you for voting for Jada. She will be able to compete on Friday and hopefully bring some attention to the Shelter she was adopted from. Joan
Re: voting
i just checked teh website and they picked ten finalists. arghhh!!! i thought this voting was the last round. but still, Congratulations for getting into this round!! - Original Message - From: Cherie A Gabbert To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: RE: voting you bet ;-))"Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Pretty cool for a pit bull mix! -Original Message-From: Cherie A Gabbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 4:23 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: voting Looks Like Jada is in 1st place Cherie"Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thank you--today is the last chance! http://cbsnewyork.com/dogshow/ -Original Message-----From: Barbara Lowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 3:33 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: ot: voting everybody's gotta vote. jada is only in second place by tenths of points. amazing how the votes have gone up tenfold since i looked this morning. barbara - Original Message - From: Doljan, Joan To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:36 PM Subject: RE: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T. Thank you! -Original Message-From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:31 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T. I just fwded it to a group of friends. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doljan, JoanSent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 5:46 AMTo: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'Subject: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T. Hi, This is the last day to vote or vote again for Jada. Please go to: http://cbsnewyork.com/dogshow/. It would be great free publicity for my poor, little, struggling shelter. Thanks, JoanThis email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: OT: need a free online greeting card service for condolence card
thank you all who sent links and info.For now I have sent him the rainbow bridge poem figuring maybe russians had never read that one. (I can still barely stand to read it w/o crying and the 9/11 rainbow bridge poem always does it to me). barbara - Original Message - From: "TenHouseCats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 2:25 PM Subject: Re: OT: need a free online greeting card service for condolence card > do a google search for "pet sympathy cards"--there are a lot of places > that offer them now, some really nice my favorite site doesn't > exist anymore, which is too bad because they let you put the pet's > name into the main body text. > > -- > MaryChristine > > AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ: 289856892 >
ot: voting
Title: Message everybody's gotta vote. jada is only in second place by tenths of points. amazing how the votes have gone up tenfold since i looked this morning. barbara - Original Message - From: Doljan, Joan To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:36 PM Subject: RE: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T. Thank you! -Original Message-From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:31 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T. I just fwded it to a group of friends. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doljan, JoanSent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 5:46 AMTo: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'Subject: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T. Hi, This is the last day to vote or vote again for Jada. Please go to: http://cbsnewyork.com/dogshow/. It would be great free publicity for my poor, little, struggling shelter. Thanks, JoanThis email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T.
Title: Message do you have a webpage? or are you on petfinder? barbara - Original Message - From: Doljan, Joan To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 6:46 AM Subject: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T. Hi, This is the last day to vote or vote again for Jada. Please go to: http://cbsnewyork.com/dogshow/. It would be great free publicity for my poor, little, struggling shelter. Thanks, Joan
Re: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T.
i checked the vote tally and it's still at that number tho i know i voted again and so did 4 people plus they're fowarding it onto others. maybe you can click to vote more than once but it's not counted? - Original Message - From: Joan Doljan To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:49 AM Subject: Re: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T. I thank you, Jada thanks you and Betsy thanks you![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I voted again...hope Jada wins. Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.iGive.com/TAZZYShttps://www.paypal.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttp://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/
Re: Brissle is gone...
Oh I am so sorry for your loss. remember she is now running in green fields over the bridge barbara
OT: need a free online greeting card service for condolence card
Title: Message My russian friend's dog Lika had to be pts last friday. does anyone know a free online condolence card service that I could use to send him and his family a card? thanks barbara
Re: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T.
Title: Message i sent it on again to everyone i can think of. good luck! - Original Message - From: Doljan, Joan To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 6:46 AM Subject: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T. Hi, This is the last day to vote or vote again for Jada. Please go to: http://cbsnewyork.com/dogshow/. It would be great free publicity for my poor, little, struggling shelter. Thanks, Joan
Re: O.T, - Please vote for Jada
Title: Message jada is 10.65% and bumper is at 11.something. i got to vote again.
Re: My Baby Kitten DIED
everytime I see one of these subject headers my heart breaks for the human and their loss--reminding me that yet another sweet fur creature has lost her/his battle to this absolutely friggin crappy virus. I've had to go offmail from the list because just too many other problems right now in my life---but also because I just can't take the heartbreak right now but I realize that is very selfish because everyone here responded when I wrote of losing Jelly Roll last nov. I am so sorry, Tad-you lost this precious little friend. I'm sorry if you felt no one cared--we do--maybe too much and sometimes the losses that just keep adding up remind us too much of our loved ones that have gone to the bridge. the only thing that keeps me going is the support of this group and knowing I'm not alone-just as I'm not alone with fighting cancer now with my last dog--I wish you peace in the future and that one day the hurt will lessen some over this loss. Keep loving your animals-keep saving them--stay as wonderful as you are to fight in this battle and thank god you were granted the genes to care for animals and not turn away as so many others do-saying, oh they're just cats... they are just cats just wonderful glorious beautiful creatures who found us to love them and for whatever amount of time we are granted to share with them on this realm, we have to revel in that joy. take care, Barbara
Re: get out the tissues!
smacking myself upside the head. I also meant to include you on the list of honors for rescuing the senior kitty. barbara
Re: get out the tissues!
I sometimes wonder about where the compassionate feelings many so-called humans seem to be lacking, disappeared to---now I know. the beauty, the strengh, the love, the joy for animals did not just dissipate into the air--they all found a home in Debbie. blessed be all who rescue. barbara - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:07 AM Subject: get out the tissues! Jul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: "Jul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 04:27:39 -Subject: [kittycityrescue] Fwd: |!| What is a Rescuer? |!|--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Saigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:In honor of two lost lives, and a tribute to rescuers everywhere. The Debbie mentioned in this essay is Debbie Dawn Sage, of FRIENDS of the ANIMALS, of Raytown, MO/Topeka, KS.And yes, I wrote it.- Saigh It was a sunny Saturday morning, bright but not hot, breezy but neither cold nor harsh. Even if the three of us were in varying states of displeasure about being awake and moving at this hour on a weekend, it was a perfect day for transporting animals. Blaidd was a smoldering presence in the seat next to me, still understandably upset that we'd had to leave Piper at home and likely to be for the rest of the day, as well as still in the dangerous condition of not having had any Coke since waking; Caer was still giggly and tired in the back seat from lack of sleep, though trying not to let it show by making harmless, random comments to which neither person in the front seat was really responding. And me? I wasn't really caring either way at that point - all I was concentrating on was getting to the meeting point on time, which doesn't sound like such a difficult task unless you know me and the way that for some reason logic warps around me. I can start out thirty minutesearly and still be ten minutes late. A unique talent, I guess. Approximately an hour later, we had met our charges for the day, exchanged quite a bit of interaction with the handing off driver who also happened to be the coordinator of this run, gassed up Spud (the rescue mobile - a '93 Oldsmobile; anyone see the difficulty yet?), gotten Blaidd some Coke, watered all three dogs, exchanged parting hugs and wishes with our contact, and settled everyone in the car. The Golden brothers quickly appropriated the back seat, one stretching across the entirety of it with his head in Caer's lap, the other still too excited about new surroundings and new people to even care or really notice that he was thereby forced to stand up; the Pointer occupied the space Piper normally would, first standing then sitting and eventually laying on the bench seat between myself and Blaidd in the front. We rolled down the windows, cranked the AC, and departed the service station for the three hour drive ahead of us in much better spirits. After all - everyonefit, and that's all we could really ask or hope for. I merged onto the highway, and settled into a good driving speed. The mood in the car was high - we'd just witnessed a three-legged, skin and bones beagle being delivered into the hands of his new foster or adoptive home (I think adoptive, though that wasn't made abundantly clear), and the skeleton of a pointer next to us was going to have a chance at life outside the Animal Control shelter where none of the animals were fed and barely watered as they simply waited for their turn to die. I knew we were behind, but it was well worth it; I was calculating how late we would be by the time we got to our own drop off point, and how many miles we would have on the tank before needing to fill up again, when I glanced up to the road and felt my heart sink. I'd seen the body lying on the side of the road... the dog lover in me immediately whispered beagle... just as the logic told me dead... I felt the familiar numbness lock up my chest as happens every time I see an animal on theside of the road, but magnified as the question was begged What were you doing out here? of an obvious pet lying by a busy four lane highway, 20 minutes by car from any of the nearest cities or houses that could be seen... Before I could notice the other critical detail I heard Blaidd beside me, voice tense: "That was Debbie... Stop. Stop... it's Debbie." My numb heart sank lower, and I hit the brakes. We backed down the shoulder of the highway, I surprisingly not even flinching at how close and how fast the cars that didn't move over for us shuddered past; all that mattered was getting closer to that red Chevy pulled over off the highway, i
Re: TOM
delurking while dealing with my dog who has cancer. Mr. Bean was diagnosed with felv+ thru both tests what was it? 3-5 years ago I forget now. anyway, i put him on MegaC+ powder, vit E, a &d, etc, and feed all mycats premium canned food and no dry except for a few pieces as a night treat. he recently had a complete blood work and he was negative. surprised the f**k out of the vet. since he had been in contact with my other cats, I never separated him. I had one postive die at 2 1/2 yrs, one at one year old. Clancy my last remaining positive is still with me and he is 7-8 years old--who came to me as a foster cat when his elderly owner died. he came from a group of 9 cats--none of the others had leukemia. go figure. another barbara - Original Message - From: Barbara Baass To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 8:04 AM Subject: Re: TOM Michelle, I have contacted a number of out of state sanctuaries. They are all full. I am still trying. will contact a few more. thanks for the info. tom has been in contact with my others. It is impossible to keep all of them apart and I don't have the heart to make him different from the rest any how. Tom had ther serious felv. He had the IFA test. My vet said when they have that they live about 3 years.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barbara, You have no idea how long Tom has, and neither does anyone else. There are people on this list who have had FeLV+ cats live to over 10 years old. It is rare but it does happen. I have one whose age I don't want to say because I am superstitious and do not want to jinx her, but she is probably older than you are thinking Tom will live to be. Also, cats do not die of FeLV. FeLV is like HIV-- it is a virus that diminishes the immune system and makes the cat more vulnerable to other conditions like lymphoma and URI's and certain kinds of anemia. So you have no idea how he will die when he dies, or when that will be. As far as your negatives go, if you keep them separated they are safe. I have a negative and 4 positives and keep them in separate areas. The current wisdom on FeLV is that it does not survive longer than a few moments in the air, and that cats have to share water, litter, and food for a while before catching it from each other (before they manage to come into contact with virus before it has died in air, which is more likely to happen in a wet substance) or fight. Most people on this list even mix positives and negatives, just making sure the negatives get the FeLV vaccine every year. I do not do that because I feel like it is taking a chance, but even that is just a small chance and there seems to have been very little disease spread that way. So if you keep them separate, it should be fine. If they are already in close contact and have been for a while, chances are that those who would contract it already have. Finally, I learned from someone recently that there is a cat sanctuary in Arizona that is exclusively for FeLV+ cats. I never tried to find it, but I assume you can find it on the web if you look. If you can't, I would contact Marley's Fund, which is such a group in NC and has a web page, and ask them if they know of it. Or contact Best Friends in Utah and ask them if they know about it or of anywhere else in the southwest that you can find him a home, if you are not willing to keep him. Michelle In a message dated 4/9/05 8:34:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know how you feel Jen, I am very sorry. I keep saying that I am going to put Tom down and then I find my self making the time longer. My other kitties will get this and Tom has already over stayed. He only has about another year & a half if even that and I keep thinking that I might be doing him a favor. Felv is a painful death to have to go through. I love Tom to death and I don't know what to do because of my other cats that are non-positive. Barbara __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: need advice for Kurt
I am so sorry to read about your Kurt. Hopefully the specialist can suggest something. My sister's cat recd two insulin shots for years but her diabetes was discovered very early. I will pray for your sweet old friend. regards Barbara - Original Message - From: "maca cats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:43 AM Subject: need advice for Kurt > hi everybody, I have been mostly lurking lately, sending my vibes to all > the sick kids and crying with the sudden deathas we have had lately. I > am having my share at home too. Kurt, my elder is every sick, he dosen't > stop throwing up, I thought it was because of the doxy he was taking for > hemobartonella, but we ran a blood panel, and apparently he ha diabetes > and something is going on with his kidneys as well, we are waiting for a > vet at home for doing an ecography, and later today we have an > appointment with a vet who is tha cat expert of the country. I know > nothing about diabetes and intolerance to glucose, if anybody has any > advice, it will be very welcome, and of course any good vibes would be a blessing. > > thank you for being there > > macarena, chile > >
Re: Brissle Update - Good News and Bad News
i can't find my specialist bills from when Jelly Roll went in for chemo. it was $$ but I'm here on Long Island in NY. it was a few thousand dollars what with the testing,visits, etc. I believe we went once a week for two weeks before he crashed and had to pts. His blood numbers were awful though. I still miss him. Wishing you and Brissle only good news. regards Barbara - Original Message - From: "Melbeach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Felvtalk" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:50 PM Subject: Brissle Update - Good News and Bad News > > I just spoke with my vet after Brissle's blood tests from today. The good > news: Her HCT is now 21.3%, up from 9.7% five weeks ago. The bad news: Her WBC > is now 36.8, up from 17.3 (normal is 5.0 to 18.9). And her L/M is now 24.4 > (normal is 1.5 to 7.8), up from 9.0. Both of these numbers are off the chart. > > > > My vet said that all signs point to cancer and he's strongly recommending > sending Brissle to a specialist for chemo. He said that her glands felt > normal. He believes that the cancer is in the bone marrow. Everything else > seems normal at this point. She's eating fine, energy is good. > > > > I will probably go ahead with the chemo. Just wanted to hear what the peanut > gallery thought. I'm also wondering how much it costs and how often you have > to go. > > > > Thanks! > > -Kyle > > > > >
OT:now my other dog has cancer!
Hi You all will stay in my thoughts and your furbabies in my prayers but right now I have to go to no mail and concentrate on my dog Frasier. I took him in for heartworm testing and the vet noticed a small growth on his side. the bad news is mast cell tumor the good news is it is not on a bone. we are awaiting blood work results before operating. he believes he will be able to get "deep margins" around the tumor so it will not spread. Frasier is 11-12-13-who knows exactly-he was a pound rescue who was my dog Maddy's best friend for a decade before she passed last summer from her cancer. she was cancer free for 8 yrs after a mast cell tumor on a bone in her back leg. i am so mad. I give him supplements, premium food yet too many morons here on Long Island get those hideous chemicals on their lawns so the stupid things will look green. oh well, off to join the caninecancer group again. damn. Good luck to you all and please pet your kitties for me.hopefully I will be back soon if only to lurk. so far clancy my only positive left has been fine--knock on wood! Wish you all many years with your furgangs. regards Barbara
Re: Food for FeLV plus Urine Crystals, Brissle Update
i have 6 of my cats on MegaC plus(powder) to prevent struvite crystals(2 are felv+) and one that is negative however had oxalate crystals -on potassium citrate. all get 200 iu Vit E--two eat their capsules in those pill pockets, the others I have to puncture the gelcap and squeeze on their food.the vit C powder I just mix in their canned food. I also feed canned food with no fish products(amazing how that stuff sneaks into alot of cans marked chicken and beef!) and no dry(okay I've been cheating and giving them like ten pieces of dry at night,each but not every night) the 3 that had blockages would not touch the canned s/d and I didn't want to feed them dry s/d after reading the info on www.holisticat.com website. barbara - Original Message - From: Melbeach To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Food for FeLV plus Urine Crystals, Brissle Update Kathy, Hill's is actually the same thing as Science Diet. That's what I'm trying to get away from because of the byproducts. It does work great though for the crystals. -Kyle - Original Message - From: Kathy Koutsis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:38 PM Subject: Re: Food for FeLV plus Urine Crystals, Brissle Update After Killian had urine crystals our vet recommended HIll's Prescription Diet CD/S. You can only buy it at the vet's office - $25 for 10 pounds. But ever since Killian has been eating it, which is about 3 years now she has not had any reoccurences. Don't know if it has any byproducts though. Kathy Melbeach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well I'm at the end of my bag of Science Diet CD/S. So it's time to buy more food. Here's my dilemma. Brissle is my FeLV+ female. Her FeLV- brother Squermie has urine crystal issues. They are both 8 years old. Squermie was about 2 when he had his urine crystals episode. It was really bad. He had to stay at the vet twice with a catheter inserted, once for an entire week. They said if he had another incident, they would have to "make him a girl". Apparently, girls have wider tubes and don’t have these problems. Up until Squermie's incident, we were feeding them Max Cat. I don't remember which type. But I was warned about byproducts and the Max Cat said it had no byproducts. So we used it and paid dearly. After the incident, they have both been eating only Science Diet CD/S. That was all 6 years ago and Squermie hasn't had another incident since. So I really don't want to tamper with success. But now I'm hearing more about how bad Science Diet is with byproducts. Is there a no-byproduct dry food that's also especially made for urine crystals? I say "especially made for urine crystals" instead of "low-magnesium" because I'm not sure if low-magnesium is the only thing that makes Science Diet CD/S so special. I remember asking my last vet if I could just buy one of the low-magnesium foods at the pet store. But he said absolutely no. Only Science Diet CD/S. I want to avoid feeding them both different foods. For one, it's s much easier to just keep a bowl of food down and forget about it. That's just always how it's been done with them. Also, if I give them different food, Squermie will surely get jealous and start picking on Brissle. I've considered giving Squermie back to the ex. But if I did that, Brissle would miss him. He can be an ogre at times. But he's gotten much better with age. I think weighing everything out, it would be better to keep him. I just have to be real fair about everything. Brissle has been doing great. We finished the VO injections about 2 weeks ago. She's almost back to her normal weight! She has plenty of energy. It's looking real good! I'll be taking Brissle to the vet next week for blood tests. One month ago, when this all started, her HCT was 9.7%. The pink in her nose makes a good visual indicator of HCT. It's still pretty light. Nowhere near as dark pink as Squermie's. But on the day I brought her to the vet, her nose was completely gray! I really don't remember how dark her nose was originally. I would highly recommend making a mental note or taking a picture of the pinkness of all your cat's noses, especially the healthy ones, so you have something to gauge by. Thanks for listening! -Kyle
Re: Need help with treatment options for FELV+ kitty and infections
thank you for taking TeeCee in when his uselesss owners abandoned him. Leash trained yet--he really sounds like a great sweetheart. I am so sorry he is not doing well. dont' be afraid to ask your vet for referral to specialist vets. (i've gone thru 3 vets and 6 different animals passing away from various illnesses and I finally had to ask each vet to refer me and then their attitude was like oh yeah there are specialists around here). have they done a blood work on him to see if he's anemic or catch any other underlying problems? regards barbara - Original Message - From: "Stephanie E Caldwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: Need help with treatment options for FELV+ kitty and infections > I need some ideas for a kitty that adopted me. He was a 30lb white Tom > Cat (AKA TeeCee), but in the past month has deteriorated to 9 lbs. He's > got an infection in his left hind at the nail that he can't seem to > kick. > > He's been on Bayitril for two weeks now @ 22.5mg 1x daily, it's having > no effect. He quit eating yesterday. > > He tested positive on the in office test for FELV, he was an inside > kitty, his owners moved to New York this winter and set him out. He > ended up at my house. > > I have one other kitty and am keeping them separated for the time being. > Right now TeeCee is at the vet's getting fluids and IV antibiotics that > are stronger than the oral, but they don't expect him to pull through. > He's an incredibly sweet kitty, who purrs whenever anyone touches him > (including the vet!). He's easy to treat, easy to handle, house broke > and leash trained. > > I'm in Charlotte, NC area if anyone knows of vets or any ideas for me. > > Steph > >
Re: Tiggie has gone to the Bridge
I am so sorry for your loss of your little Tigger. barbara
Re: Pill Pockets for giving Meds.
i have two who absolutely cannot wait for their vitamins every morning in those darn things. when any of the others need meds, i have to tear up one pill pocket for them to snack on and then hide the one with the pill in their wet food. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. go figure... barbara
Re: Angel's Gate- My Felix
Title: AOL Email i am so sorry to hear of your problems causing you to sell your house. hoping all works out for you and your creatures. I hope angel's gate is able to help Felix and glad such a refuge exists. Your love for your little old man was heartening to read. please take care, barbara
