Re: [Felvtalk] Callie
Lance, Callie is definitely in my thoughts and prayers and is Ember and you. Hopefully, her immune system will step up and kick some FeLV butt. Adult cats have such an easier time kicking that nasty virus. I've read tons of stories through this forum and have experience with positives mixing with negatives. It seems more often than not that it ends up okay. Polli lives with an older cat, Alfred. For six months they played, groomed one another, shared water and litter boxes and even gave each other a few scratches. Alfred was tested when I first got him but Polli was a random kitten we found in our backyard who we didn't intend to keep. I also had a naive notion that since I've already had one FeLV kitty chances are I wouldn't have another (WRONG). I was worried sick that I exposed him to FeLV through Polli and beat myself up over it for a while. However, despite all the time they spent together and all the things they shared, Alfred is still negative. I have to test him again in a few months but I honestly feel he'll be okay. Hang in there, Lance, and try not to beat yourself up over it so much, though I know it's hard not to. You can't change what happened and can only focus on what each day brings you (something I also need to learn)! Best, -Amanda On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Loose stools are really not a sign of a cat going FeLv+. It could be just about anything - from eating something different to stress to an unrelated bug that you brought in with you from outside. Really Lance, you can't keep a cat in a sterile bubble. I'm not saying that a bite from a positive cat is not serious but most cats who are well cared for, have enough immunity to ward off anything serious from a bite. In addition, Ember is not active for leukemia. She has tested positive. Yes, she could spread it through fighting and biting but it's more likely that she didn't. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:26 AM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Callie Me too. I'm not trying to downplay your feelings at all. I just hate to see you be so hard on yourself over this. I tend to do the same and I just need someone to point it out. Give positive vibes, it will help her more than you being stressed(-: Take care Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: On Jun 24, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Thanks, everyone. Please keep our tabby girl (Callie) in your thoughts and prayers. A bite is very serious, and I suspect that the loose stools mean she's dealing with the infection. Hoping she ends up as a negative. Lance On Jun 24, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lance We don't have control over everything. C'mon, yours on this list, that means you love your cat! And as far as I'm concerned, anybody that loves cats the way all of us do, is a damn good human being. -: Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi everyone, Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days, and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be relied on. I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this wouldn't have happened. Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Callie
You can't beat yourself up over what ifs. We have to make decisions on what we know. We are not always right, but we try. Perhaps the loose stool is from the stress of being bitten and will clear up soon. I hope so. In the meantime all of you are in my prayers. Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi everyone, Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days, and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be relied on. I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this wouldn't have happened. Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Callie
Hi Lance, Could you describe the bite? How deep, where, and did it abcess, or become infected?How many puncture sites did you find? Just a thought, soft stool and blood can be indicative of stress. Is Callie an intuitive girl? If she's picking up on _your_stress concerning her, it might affect _her_ health. Do you have her on immune boosters? Sorry, I can't seem to get back to the previous messages, to find out. Wishing Callie a clean bill of health, Margo -Original Message- From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm Sent: Jun 24, 2013 8:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Callie Thanks, everyone. Please keep our tabby girl (Callie) in your thoughts and prayers. A bite is very serious, and I suspect that the loose stools mean she's dealing with the infection. Hoping she ends up as a negative. Lance On Jun 24, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lance We don't have control over everything. C'mon, yours on this list, that means you love your cat! And as far as I'm concerned, anybody that loves cats the way all of us do, is a damn good human being. -: Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi everyone, Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days, and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be relied on. I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this wouldn't have happened. Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Callie
Hi Margo, The bite did not abscess. I only found one small scab on her neck. It was probably a territorial bite. I don't think Callie is close enough to me enough of the time for her to intuit anything from my level of stress. She is not on immune boosters currently. I was reluctant to do anything like that, for fear that it might cause her immune system to misbehave. I am considering getting her on DMG, which seems more mild than something like Transfer Factor. I just hate to do something that might actually make it more likely that she would be persistently positive. Does anyone have any advice here? Thanks Margo, and everyone else, Lance On Tue, Jun 25, 2013, at 08:55 AM, Margo wrote: Hi Lance, Could you describe the bite? How deep, where, and did it abcess, or become infected?How many puncture sites did you find? Just a thought, soft stool and blood can be indicative of stress. Is Callie an intuitive girl? If she's picking up on _your_stress concerning her, it might affect _her_ health. Do you have her on immune boosters? Sorry, I can't seem to get back to the previous messages, to find out. Wishing Callie a clean bill of health, Margo -Original Message- From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm Sent: Jun 24, 2013 8:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Callie Thanks, everyone. Please keep our tabby girl (Callie) in your thoughts and prayers. A bite is very serious, and I suspect that the loose stools mean she's dealing with the infection. Hoping she ends up as a negative. Lance On Jun 24, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lance We don't have control over everything. C'mon, yours on this list, that means you love your cat! And as far as I'm concerned, anybody that loves cats the way all of us do, is a damn good human being. -: Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi everyone, Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days, and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be relied on. I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this wouldn't have happened. Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Callie
Hi Lance, DMG was exactly what I was thinking of. I can only see it a a can't hurt, might help option. Did you witness the bite? Any chance it was claw rather than tooth? I know that you will worry regardless, but what you describe doesn't sound like a deep bite, so probably less likely to transmit the virus than an injury that involves deep penetration. Has Ember been tested recently? ^..^ -Original Message- From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm Sent: Jun 25, 2013 10:59 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Callie Hi Margo, The bite did not abscess. I only found one small scab on her neck. It was probably a territorial bite. I don't think Callie is close enough to me enough of the time for her to intuit anything from my level of stress. She is not on immune boosters currently. I was reluctant to do anything like that, for fear that it might cause her immune system to misbehave. I am considering getting her on DMG, which seems more mild than something like Transfer Factor. I just hate to do something that might actually make it more likely that she would be persistently positive. Does anyone have any advice here? Thanks Margo, and everyone else, Lance On Tue, Jun 25, 2013, at 08:55 AM, Margo wrote: Hi Lance, Could you describe the bite? How deep, where, and did it abcess, or become infected?How many puncture sites did you find? Just a thought, soft stool and blood can be indicative of stress. Is Callie an intuitive girl? If she's picking up on _your_stress concerning her, it might affect _her_ health. Do you have her on immune boosters? Sorry, I can't seem to get back to the previous messages, to find out. Wishing Callie a clean bill of health, Margo -Original Message- From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm Sent: Jun 24, 2013 8:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Callie Thanks, everyone. Please keep our tabby girl (Callie) in your thoughts and prayers. A bite is very serious, and I suspect that the loose stools mean she's dealing with the infection. Hoping she ends up as a negative. Lance On Jun 24, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lance We don't have control over everything. C'mon, yours on this list, that means you love your cat! And as far as I'm concerned, anybody that loves cats the way all of us do, is a damn good human being. -: Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi everyone, Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days, and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be relied on. I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this wouldn't have happened. Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk
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Me too. I'm not trying to downplay your feelings at all. I just hate to see you be so hard on yourself over this. I tend to do the same and I just need someone to point it out. Give positive vibes, it will help her more than you being stressed(-: Take care Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: On Jun 24, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Thanks, everyone. Please keep our tabby girl (Callie) in your thoughts and prayers. A bite is very serious, and I suspect that the loose stools mean she's dealing with the infection. Hoping she ends up as a negative. Lance On Jun 24, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lance We don't have control over everything. C'mon, yours on this list, that means you love your cat! And as far as I'm concerned, anybody that loves cats the way all of us do, is a damn good human being. -: Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi everyone, Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days, and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be relied on. I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this wouldn't have happened. Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Callie
The hardest part is that this was preventable. Not all accidents are, but when they are, they feel all the more tragic. I'm talking to an alternative medicine vet at 3:30 to see if she thinks DMG would be a good idea. I'd prefer to get the go-ahead from a professional. Really, it's up to Callie's immune system to recognize the virus and react appropriately. I want to be hopeful, but I'm so concerned and depressed that it's hard to not despair. I am trying to tell myself that being positive is the only way forward, but it doesn't always stick, especially when I wake up and remember what's happening. I appreciate the kind words and support that I've gotten here. Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Have you had her tested yet? Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Callie The hardest part is that this was preventable. Not all accidents are, but when they are, they feel all the more tragic. I'm talking to an alternative medicine vet at 3:30 to see if she thinks DMG would be a good idea. I'd prefer to get the go-ahead from a professional. Really, it's up to Callie's immune system to recognize the virus and react appropriately. I want to be hopeful, but I'm so concerned and depressed that it's hard to not despair. I am trying to tell myself that being positive is the only way forward, but it doesn't always stick, especially when I wake up and remember what's happening. I appreciate the kind words and support that I've gotten here. Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Callie
Lance, I know it's hard but I really wouldn't worry too much about it. Some of the negatives I have were really sick and in the same small kennel for months with sick FeLV's before I got them. Callie is also an adult so more immune to the virus. DMG is really good for cats with HCM but I haven't seen any data about it being proven to stimulate or support immune systems. If you have Transfer Factor plus tri factor, I'd give that to Callie. That really has helped all the FeLV cats here and also non FeLV ones that were sick. Try not to worry too much. El From: lini...@fastmail.fm To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 13:50:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Callie The hardest part is that this was preventable. Not all accidents are, but when they are, they feel all the more tragic. I'm talking to an alternative medicine vet at 3:30 to see if she thinks DMG would be a good idea. I'd prefer to get the go-ahead from a professional. Really, it's up to Callie's immune system to recognize the virus and react appropriately. I want to be hopeful, but I'm so concerned and depressed that it's hard to not despair. I am trying to tell myself that being positive is the only way forward, but it doesn't always stick, especially when I wake up and remember what's happening. I appreciate the kind words and support that I've gotten here. Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Callie
Loose stools are really not a sign of a cat going FeLv+. It could be just about anything - from eating something different to stress to an unrelated bug that you brought in with you from outside. Really Lance, you can't keep a cat in a sterile bubble. I'm not saying that a bite from a positive cat is not serious but most cats who are well cared for, have enough immunity to ward off anything serious from a bite. In addition, Ember is not active for leukemia. She has tested positive. Yes, she could spread it through fighting and biting but it's more likely that she didn't. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Callie Me too. I'm not trying to downplay your feelings at all. I just hate to see you be so hard on yourself over this. I tend to do the same and I just need someone to point it out. Give positive vibes, it will help her more than you being stressed(-: Take care Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: On Jun 24, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Thanks, everyone. Please keep our tabby girl (Callie) in your thoughts and prayers. A bite is very serious, and I suspect that the loose stools mean she's dealing with the infection. Hoping she ends up as a negative. Lance On Jun 24, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lance We don't have control over everything. C'mon, yours on this list, that means you love your cat! And as far as I'm concerned, anybody that loves cats the way all of us do, is a damn good human being. -: Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi everyone, Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days, and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be relied on. I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this wouldn't have happened. Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Callie
You are second guessing yourself. What if's just drive you crazy with worry and do not help the situation any. Also, She can pick up on your stress and that can stress her out. There is an old saying, Let go and Let God. That and continuing to give her lots of love, good food and shelter will do her more good than all your fretting. Be kind to yourself please. I have been there and know from experience that all the worry in the world does no good. All it does is make you miserable. Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: The hardest part is that this was preventable. Not all accidents are, but when they are, they feel all the more tragic. I'm talking to an alternative medicine vet at 3:30 to see if she thinks DMG would be a good idea. I'd prefer to get the go-ahead from a professional. Really, it's up to Callie's immune system to recognize the virus and react appropriately. I want to be hopeful, but I'm so concerned and depressed that it's hard to not despair. I am trying to tell myself that being positive is the only way forward, but it doesn't always stick, especially when I wake up and remember what's happening. I appreciate the kind words and support that I've gotten here. Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Callie
Lance, I will be praying for Callie and Ember. Just remember 70 % of cats already have a built in immunity and are able to fight off the virus. No point in beating yourself up. I know that we all do that. Sally On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi everyone, Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days, and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be relied on. I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this wouldn't have happened. Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Callie
Hi everyone, Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days, and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be relied on. I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this wouldn't have happened. Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Lance, prayers for Callie's healing, Ember's improvement and that you can let go of the guilt. Things happen. May your heart be light from now on! Bonnie Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi everyone, Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days, and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be relied on. I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this wouldn't have happened. Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Callie
Lance please don't beat yourself up. Things happen we just have to deal with what is going forward. It is unlikely Callie got infected unless there was food they were sharing. Thinking of you, Callie, Ember. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 1:07 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Callie Hi everyone, Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days, and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be relied on. I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this wouldn't have happened. Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Callie
Hi Lance We don't have control over everything. C'mon, yours on this list, that means you love your cat! And as far as I'm concerned, anybody that loves cats the way all of us do, is a damn good human being. -: Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi everyone, Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days, and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be relied on. I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this wouldn't have happened. Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Callie
Thanks, everyone. Please keep our tabby girl (Callie) in your thoughts and prayers. A bite is very serious, and I suspect that the loose stools mean she's dealing with the infection. Hoping she ends up as a negative. Lance On Jun 24, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lance We don't have control over everything. C'mon, yours on this list, that means you love your cat! And as far as I'm concerned, anybody that loves cats the way all of us do, is a damn good human being. -: Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi everyone, Please pray for my mom's cat, Callie. I mentioned her here a few weeks ago, after my FeLV+ cat, Ember, bit Callie when she accidentally got into Ember's room. Callie has had soft stools for the last four days, and there was blood on her stool on Saturday. Since Callie hasn't been vaccinated since she was a kitten, she probably has no immunity from that route. She is 7 years old, and I'm hoping that she'll be able to deal with the virus better having a more mature immune system. People talk about age resistance with FeLV, but I don't think it can be relied on. I'm dealing with an incredible amount of guilt over this. I love Callie like I love Ember. She's one of my favorite cats ever. It was my fault that she got into Ember's room, and it's my fault that Ember is still here with my parents. It's also my fault that we didn't vaccinate Callie, as I worried about vax site sarcoma for Callie, and the few run-ins that had happened between the two cats over the last seven years were always brief and friendly. I also feel guilty as, if I'd just gotten in the room (quite literally) a minute or so sooner, this wouldn't have happened. Please pray that Callie can fight the virus so that she isn't persistently infected, and please pray for me. I'm dealing with a lot. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
