Re: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up
Ive had my Tucson since she was 2 months old. She tested neg on Elissa back then but then 5 years later, she tested pos on the Elissa & IFA. Both vets I consulted felt shed always been pos as shed been exclusively indoors since I got her & never exposed to virus in any way. Now shes 14 ½, fat, lazy, slowing down but chugging along! But I know I was lucky as the kittens are the most vulnerable as they have the least resistance to opportunistic infections that seem to take them pretty easily-UTIs, URIs. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jamielynn Storch Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up You've got it right. I've immersed myself in FELV for the past 2 weeks and feel I've got a pretty good grasp and from what I understand what you stated is correct. Basically I need the snap and IFA test to match..but a positive snap and negative IFA does NOT mean they are in the clear it may just mean it has not spread to the point of testing positive on IFA yet. I need either a matching negative snap and IFA or matching positive snap and IFA. I've really had to educate myself on this bc I've learned the shelter really does not have great knowledge on it and they really tend to group FELV and FIV together a lot. Prior to me doing my own investigating and phone calls I was told a ton of different things from the shelter. As for the mother- these guys were left on someones doorstep with no mom and brought to the shelter. I pulled them as bottlefeeders at about 2 weeks old (uninformed on needing to request a snap test). I had them for 5 weeks not knowing about the FELV...dropped them off for their spays and neuters at 2lbs and got a call that afternoon that 1 in the litter had tested postiive for FELV (they only test 1). They had only tested them bc I checked off a box requesting the snap test (otherwise never would have tested them). When I picked them up I brought them to the clinic and had a 2nd one in the litter tested who also tested positive. A week later I had an appointment with the shelters vet who than snap tested the 3rd kitten in the litter who also tested positive. Now we wait...re-snap..if snap positive we will send out IFA. At this point Im treating them as FELV+ and certainly don't have my hopes up that they are going to be negative. They are not showing any signs or symptoms that I am aware of at this point. They were spayed and neutered that day which now Im hearing mixed things on whether that should have been done or not and that FELV cats can have a difficult recovery. These guys had no problems recovering and have bounced back wonderfully besides 1 of them getting really bad diarrhea for a few days but we discovered roundworms and treated all 3 for that. His diarhea is now gone and he's back to himself. -- Jamielynn Storch www.jlynnphotographyonline.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom with FELV kittens follow up
If the IFA is negative you'd want to retest on the Elisa after 3 month to see if they shook the virus.If the IFA is positive there is not need to retest on either the IFA or ELISA. They are definitely positive at that point.. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom with FELV kittens follow up But if the IFA is negative again, there’s really no need to do another one to prove or disprove anything – it would only confirm one of two things: It’s still not in the bone marrow, or it’s in the bone marrow. If two snap or ELISA tests were positive, there’s no need to wait for anything other than the IFA becoming positive, showing it’s in the bone marrow – and you never know how soon it happens or how long it will be – makes no difference, they’re still positive!I had a kitten that didn’t make it past a few months, but the adult cats (the ones I mentioned before), did a lot better, one dying of unrelated to FeLV and the other one doing really well. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of BethSent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 2:47 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom with FELV kittens follow up If the IFA's are positive there is no need for re-testing. It is replicating in their bone marrow. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Jamielynn Storch To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:12 PMSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom with FELV kittens follow up Yes I understand this however if the IFA comes back positive on all 3 its my understanding they have it..no need to wait 2 months and re-test a positive IFA means its spread to the marrow. So if we get a positive snap and negative IFA we will wait another month and test again until 2 confirmed positives or negatives result. I do know the diagnosis could mean anything...1 year or 6+ ...and sounds like their are even cases of cats being a carrier that dont every get symptomatic btu can still spread the disease. My fiances brother had 2 FELV+ cats (not littermates...adopted a 2nd positive cat as a companion for the 1st) and one died at 1 year old and the other 3 months later. I wish I had a set timeline but I knwo thats not possible and I just dont have the space at my house. This was supposed to be my last foster litter before having my own human children..in which they are currently living in what will be renovated into our baby nursery. I never ever fostered with the intention to adopt. Im devoted to finding these guys a home and really hope its possible...sadly as much as I love them it just isnt my home thats forever for them :(. Lee Evans moonsister22 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 27 12:43:10 CDT 2012 Previous message: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up Next message: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Just had a FIV+/FeLv+ cat retested. He had FIV but he tested negative for FeLv. He's going into my FIV+ section, not because I think that FIV would be contagious to my regular cats but because he never lost his male fighting spirit so let him annoy the FIV's. I do have three FIV+ cats mixed in with my regulars because they never even heard of fighting. Docile, sweet, loving. But Percy, well! Anyway, you need to wait for at least 2 months to retest the kittens. My vet advised me to wait for that period of time. I had another FeLv cat turn from positive to negative. I still have him. Rescued him 6 years ago and he was already an adult from the streets. No health problems. If your kittens are acting normal, seeming health, it's probably because they are and will turn. I have seen true FeLv kittens from the same litter. It has been my experience that they usually don't make it to a year old. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too!-- Jamielynn Storchwww.jlynnphotographyonline.com___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom with FELV kittens follow up
But if the IFA is negative again, there's really no need to do another one to prove or disprove anything - it would only confirm one of two things: It's still not in the bone marrow, or it's in the bone marrow. If two snap or ELISA tests were positive, there's no need to wait for anything other than the IFA becoming positive, showing it's in the bone marrow - and you never know how soon it happens or how long it will be - makes no difference, they're still positive! I had a kitten that didn't make it past a few months, but the adult cats (the ones I mentioned before), did a lot better, one dying of unrelated to FeLV and the other one doing really well. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 2:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom with FELV kittens follow up If the IFA's are positive there is no need for re-testing. It is replicating in their bone marrow. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!Image removed by sender. www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/> _ From: Jamielynn Storch To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom with FELV kittens follow up Yes I understand this however if the IFA comes back positive on all 3 its my understanding they have it..no need to wait 2 months and re-test a positive IFA means its spread to the marrow. So if we get a positive snap and negative IFA we will wait another month and test again until 2 confirmed positives or negatives result. I do know the diagnosis could mean anything...1 year or 6+ ...and sounds like their are even cases of cats being a carrier that dont every get symptomatic btu can still spread the disease. My fiances brother had 2 FELV+ cats (not littermates...adopted a 2nd positive cat as a companion for the 1st) and one died at 1 year old and the other 3 months later. I wish I had a set timeline but I knwo thats not possible and I just dont have the space at my house. This was supposed to be my last foster litter before having my own human children..in which they are currently living in what will be renovated into our baby nursery. I never ever fostered with the intention to adopt. Im devoted to finding these guys a home and really hope its possible...sadly as much as I love them it just isnt my home thats forever for them :(. Lee Evans moonsister22 at yahoo.com <mailto:felvtalk%40felineleukemia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BFelvtalk%5D%20Foste r%20Mom%20with%20FELV%20kittens%20follow%20up&In-Reply-To=%3C1340818990.2944 5.YahooMailNeo%40web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com%3E> Wed Jun 27 12:43:10 CDT 2012 * Previous message: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/2012-June/0 02480.html> * Next message: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/2012-June/0 02482.html> * Messages sorted by: [ date ] <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/2012-June/d ate.html#2481> [ thread ] <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/2012-June/t hread.html#2481> [ subject ] <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/2012-June/s ubject.html#2481> [ author ] <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/2012-June/a uthor.html#2481> _ Just had a FIV+/FeLv+ cat retested. He had FIV but he tested negative for FeLv. He's going into my FIV+ section, not because I think that FIV would be contagious to my regular cats but because he never lost his male fighting spirit so let him annoy the FIV's. I do have three FIV+ cats mixed in with my regulars because they never even heard of fighting. Docile, sweet, loving. But Percy, well! Anyway, you need to wait for at least 2 months to retest the kittens. My vet advised me to wait for that period of time. I had another FeLv cat turn from positive to negative. I still have him. Rescued him 6 years ago and he was already an adult from the streets. No health problems. If your kittens are acting normal, seeming health, it's probably because they are and will turn. I have seen true FeLv kittens from the same litter. It has been my experience that they usually don't make it to a year old. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- Jamielynn Storch www.jlynnphotographyonline.com <http://www.jlynnphotographyonline.com/> ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org <>___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom with FELV kittens follow up
If the IFA's are positive there is no need for re-testing. It is replicating in their bone marrow. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Jamielynn Storch To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom with FELV kittens follow up Yes I understand this however if the IFA comes back positive on all 3 its my understanding they have it..no need to wait 2 months and re-test a positive IFA means its spread to the marrow. So if we get a positive snap and negative IFA we will wait another month and test again until 2 confirmed positives or negatives result. I do know the diagnosis could mean anything...1 year or 6+ ...and sounds like their are even cases of cats being a carrier that dont every get symptomatic btu can still spread the disease. My fiances brother had 2 FELV+ cats (not littermates...adopted a 2nd positive cat as a companion for the 1st) and one died at 1 year old and the other 3 months later. I wish I had a set timeline but I knwo thats not possible and I just dont have the space at my house. This was supposed to be my last foster litter before having my own human children..in which they are currently living in what will be renovated into our baby nursery. I never ever fostered with the intention to adopt. Im devoted to finding these guys a home and really hope its possible...sadly as much as I love them it just isnt my home thats forever for them :(. Lee Evans moonsister22 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 27 12:43:10 CDT 2012 * Previous message: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up * Next message: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Just had a FIV+/FeLv+ cat retested. He had FIV but he tested negative for FeLv. He's going into my FIV+ section, not because I think that FIV would be contagious to my regular cats but because he never lost his male fighting spirit so let him annoy the FIV's. I do have three FIV+ cats mixed in with my regulars because they never even heard of fighting. Docile, sweet, loving. But Percy, well! Anyway, you need to wait for at least 2 months to retest the kittens. My vet advised me to wait for that period of time. I had another FeLv cat turn from positive to negative. I still have him. Rescued him 6 years ago and he was already an adult from the streets. No health problems. If your kittens are acting normal, seeming health, it's probably because they are and will turn. I have seen true FeLv kittens from the same litter. It has been my experience that they usually don't make it to a year old. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- Jamielynn Storch www.jlynnphotographyonline.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom with FELV kittens follow up
*Yes I understand this however if the IFA comes back positive on all 3 its my understanding they have it..no need to wait 2 months and re-test a positive IFA means its spread to the marrow. So if we get a positive snap and negative IFA we will wait another month and test again until 2 confirmed positives or negatives result. I do know the diagnosis could mean anything...1 year or 6+ ...and sounds like their are even cases of cats being a carrier that dont every get symptomatic btu can still spread the disease. My fiances brother had 2 FELV+ cats (not littermates...adopted a 2nd positive cat as a companion for the 1st) and one died at 1 year old and the other 3 months later. I wish I had a set timeline but I knwo thats not possible and I just dont have the space at my house. This was supposed to be my last foster litter before having my own human children..in which they are currently living in what will be renovated into our baby nursery. I never ever fostered with the intention to adopt. Im devoted to finding these guys a home and really hope its possible...sadly as much as I love them it just isnt my home thats forever for them :(. Lee Evans* moonsister22 at yahoo.com *Wed Jun 27 12:43:10 CDT 2012* - Previous message: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/2012-June/002480.html> - Next message: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/2012-June/002482.html> - *Messages sorted by:* [ date ]<http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/2012-June/date.html#2481> [ thread ]<http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/2012-June/thread.html#2481> [ subject ]<http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/2012-June/subject.html#2481> [ author ]<http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/2012-June/author.html#2481> -- Just had a FIV+/FeLv+ cat retested. He had FIV but he tested negative for FeLv. He's going into my FIV+ section, not because I think that FIV would be contagious to my regular cats but because he never lost his male fighting spirit so let him annoy the FIV's. I do have three FIV+ cats mixed in with my regulars because they never even heard of fighting. Docile, sweet, loving. But Percy, well! Anyway, you need to wait for at least 2 months to retest the kittens. My vet advised me to wait for that period of time. I had another FeLv cat turn from positive to negative. I still have him. Rescued him 6 years ago and he was already an adult from the streets. No health problems. If your kittens are acting normal, seeming health, it's probably because they are and will turn. I have seen true FeLv kittens from the same litter. It has been my experience that they usually don't make it to a year old. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- Jamielynn Storch www.jlynnphotographyonline.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up
Most of mine that were born with it lived about 1 1/2 years, but I have one now. who is well over 2 yrs old. Like everything else, every cat is different. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Sharyl To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up My experience with 10 FeLV kittens is they will do fine for 1-4 yrs before showing signs of illness. My rescue kittens were positive initally and stayed that way. All did fine with s/n - no issues at all. All were active and loving babies. Thank you for saving these babies Sharyl From: Jamielynn Storch To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up You've got it right. I've immersed myself in FELV for the past 2 weeks and feel I've got a pretty good grasp and from what I understand what you stated is correct. Basically I need the snap and IFA test to match..but a positive snap and negative IFA does NOT mean they are in the clear it may just mean it has not spread to the point of testing positive on IFA yet. I need either a matching negative snap and IFA or matching positive snap and IFA. I've really had to educate myself on this bc I've learned the shelter really does not have great knowledge on it and they really tend to group FELV and FIV together a lot. Prior to me doing my own investigating and phone calls I was told a ton of different things from the shelter. As for the mother- these guys were left on someones doorstep with no mom and brought to the shelter. I pulled them as bottlefeeders at about 2 weeks old (uninformed on needing to request a snap test). I had them for 5 weeks not knowing about the FELV...dropped them off for their spays and neuters at 2lbs and got a call that afternoon that 1 in the litter had tested postiive for FELV (they only test 1). They had only tested them bc I checked off a box requesting the snap test (otherwise never would have tested them). When I picked them up I brought them to the clinic and had a 2nd one in the litter tested who also tested positive. A week later I had an appointment with the shelters vet who than snap tested the 3rd kitten in the litter who also tested positive. Now we wait...re-snap..if snap positive we will send out IFA. At this point Im treating them as FELV+ and certainly don't have my hopes up that they are going to be negative. They are not showing any signs or symptoms that I am aware of at this point. They were spayed and neutered that day which now Im hearing mixed things on whether that should have been done or not and that FELV cats can have a difficult recovery. These guys had no problems recovering and have bounced back wonderfully besides 1 of them getting really bad diarrhea for a few days but we discovered roundworms and treated all 3 for that. His diarhea is now gone and he's back to himself. -- Jamielynn Storch http://www.jlynnphotographyonline.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up
Just had a FIV+/FeLv+ cat retested. He had FIV but he tested negative for FeLv. He's going into my FIV+ section, not because I think that FIV would be contagious to my regular cats but because he never lost his male fighting spirit so let him annoy the FIV's. I do have three FIV+ cats mixed in with my regulars because they never even heard of fighting. Docile, sweet, loving. But Percy, well! Anyway, you need to wait for at least 2 months to retest the kittens. My vet advised me to wait for that period of time. I had another FeLv cat turn from positive to negative. I still have him. Rescued him 6 years ago and he was already an adult from the streets. No health problems. If your kittens are acting normal, seeming health, it's probably because they are and will turn. I have seen true FeLv kittens from the same litter. It has been my experience that they usually don't make it to a year old. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Sharyl To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up My experience with 10 FeLV kittens is they will do fine for 1-4 yrs before showing signs of illness. My rescue kittens were positive initally and stayed that way. All did fine with s/n - no issues at all. All were active and loving babies. Thank you for saving these babies Sharyl From: Jamielynn Storch To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up You've got it right. I've immersed myself in FELV for the past 2 weeks and feel I've got a pretty good grasp and from what I understand what you stated is correct. Basically I need the snap and IFA test to match..but a positive snap and negative IFA does NOT mean they are in the clear it may just mean it has not spread to the point of testing positive on IFA yet. I need either a matching negative snap and IFA or matching positive snap and IFA. I've really had to educate myself on this bc I've learned the shelter really does not have great knowledge on it and they really tend to group FELV and FIV together a lot. Prior to me doing my own investigating and phone calls I was told a ton of different things from the shelter. As for the mother- these guys were left on someones doorstep with no mom and brought to the shelter. I pulled them as bottlefeeders at about 2 weeks old (uninformed on needing to request a snap test). I had them for 5 weeks not knowing about the FELV...dropped them off for their spays and neuters at 2lbs and got a call that afternoon that 1 in the litter had tested postiive for FELV (they only test 1). They had only tested them bc I checked off a box requesting the snap test (otherwise never would have tested them). When I picked them up I brought them to the clinic and had a 2nd one in the litter tested who also tested positive. A week later I had an appointment with the shelters vet who than snap tested the 3rd kitten in the litter who also tested positive. Now we wait...re-snap..if snap positive we will send out IFA. At this point Im treating them as FELV+ and certainly don't have my hopes up that they are going to be negative. They are not showing any signs or symptoms that I am aware of at this point. They were spayed and neutered that day which now Im hearing mixed things on whether that should have been done or not and that FELV cats can have a difficult recovery. These guys had no problems recovering and have bounced back wonderfully besides 1 of them getting really bad diarrhea for a few days but we discovered roundworms and treated all 3 for that. His diarhea is now gone and he's back to himself. -- Jamielynn Storch http://www.jlynnphotographyonline.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up
My experience with 10 FeLV kittens is they will do fine for 1-4 yrs before showing signs of illness. My rescue kittens were positive initally and stayed that way. All did fine with s/n - no issues at all. All were active and loving babies. Thank you for saving these babies Sharyl From: Jamielynn Storch To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up You've got it right. I've immersed myself in FELV for the past 2 weeks and feel I've got a pretty good grasp and from what I understand what you stated is correct. Basically I need the snap and IFA test to match..but a positive snap and negative IFA does NOT mean they are in the clear it may just mean it has not spread to the point of testing positive on IFA yet. I need either a matching negative snap and IFA or matching positive snap and IFA. I've really had to educate myself on this bc I've learned the shelter really does not have great knowledge on it and they really tend to group FELV and FIV together a lot. Prior to me doing my own investigating and phone calls I was told a ton of different things from the shelter. As for the mother- these guys were left on someones doorstep with no mom and brought to the shelter. I pulled them as bottlefeeders at about 2 weeks old (uninformed on needing to request a snap test). I had them for 5 weeks not knowing about the FELV...dropped them off for their spays and neuters at 2lbs and got a call that afternoon that 1 in the litter had tested postiive for FELV (they only test 1). They had only tested them bc I checked off a box requesting the snap test (otherwise never would have tested them). When I picked them up I brought them to the clinic and had a 2nd one in the litter tested who also tested positive. A week later I had an appointment with the shelters vet who than snap tested the 3rd kitten in the litter who also tested positive. Now we wait...re-snap..if snap positive we will send out IFA. At this point Im treating them as FELV+ and certainly don't have my hopes up that they are going to be negative. They are not showing any signs or symptoms that I am aware of at this point. They were spayed and neutered that day which now Im hearing mixed things on whether that should have been done or not and that FELV cats can have a difficult recovery. These guys had no problems recovering and have bounced back wonderfully besides 1 of them getting really bad diarrhea for a few days but we discovered roundworms and treated all 3 for that. His diarhea is now gone and he's back to himself. -- Jamielynn Storch http://www.jlynnphotographyonline.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up
You've got it right. I've immersed myself in FELV for the past 2 weeks and feel I've got a pretty good grasp and from what I understand what you stated is correct. Basically I need the snap and IFA test to match..but a positive snap and negative IFA does NOT mean they are in the clear it may just mean it has not spread to the point of testing positive on IFA yet. I need either a matching negative snap and IFA or matching positive snap and IFA. I've really had to educate myself on this bc I've learned the shelter really does not have great knowledge on it and they really tend to group FELV and FIV together a lot. Prior to me doing my own investigating and phone calls I was told a ton of different things from the shelter. As for the mother- these guys were left on someones doorstep with no mom and brought to the shelter. I pulled them as bottlefeeders at about 2 weeks old (uninformed on needing to request a snap test). I had them for 5 weeks not knowing about the FELV...dropped them off for their spays and neuters at 2lbs and got a call that afternoon that 1 in the litter had tested postiive for FELV (they only test 1). They had only tested them bc I checked off a box requesting the snap test (otherwise never would have tested them). When I picked them up I brought them to the clinic and had a 2nd one in the litter tested who also tested positive. A week later I had an appointment with the shelters vet who than snap tested the 3rd kitten in the litter who also tested positive. Now we wait...re-snap..if snap positive we will send out IFA. At this point Im treating them as FELV+ and certainly don't have my hopes up that they are going to be negative. They are not showing any signs or symptoms that I am aware of at this point. They were spayed and neutered that day which now Im hearing mixed things on whether that should have been done or not and that FELV cats can have a difficult recovery. These guys had no problems recovering and have bounced back wonderfully besides 1 of them getting really bad diarrhea for a few days but we discovered roundworms and treated all 3 for that. His diarhea is now gone and he's back to himself. -- Jamielynn Storch www.jlynnphotographyonline.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up
I remember slightly, but don't recall if there was there a mother that was tested? That should be enough, because if she is FeLV+, the kittens are definitely positive. If the kittens are positive again, and then you do the IFA, and it's negative, it doesn't mean that they are negative, it only means that the virus isn't in the bone marrow yet. Another snap or ELISA, if positive, would confirm it. It seems that they are doing well, so, maybe their second snap or ELISA will be negative..how old were they when they were tested first - sometimes, at a too young age, tests like that can be false positives. I hope I got everything right - I had two adults that were positive, then tested on IFA, negative - thought they were clear of it - not so fast, another IFA was positive! And in the meantime, many healthy cats were exposed, but to date, not a single cat got infected after being with them for about 6 months. One of them died of renal failure while still with me, the other one was adopted by a vet and is doing very well - he got stressed out by the move and had a high temperature - fine now. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jamielynn Storch Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:13 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up I posted a couple weeks ago when I first found out about my kittens testing positive for FELV. Since than I have done a lot of research and have a much better understanding of what I'm dealing with. They are set to be tested again in July and if the snap test is positive we will be sending out for IFA testing. At this point it does seem as though chances are they are truly FELV (of course they still have the chance to "flip" or fight it off but it does not seem likely all 3 will nor does it seem that it was a false positive as all 3 kittens were tested separately, at different times with the tests administered by different peopleall coming back positive. So anyway Im located in Philly. More than willing and ready to drive any distance I can make in a weekend trip for them to find a good home. So please watch and share their video I made for them (it might make you laugh and cry). Video link: http://youtu.be/N0uqTPhYLTQ They are absolutely wonderful but I dont have space for 3 FELV negative cats in my home permanently let alone 3 positive cats. They will NOT be euthed due to this but I may have to turn them over to a FELV rescue if Im unable to find a good placement for them which I would hate to do after raising them :(. -- Jamielynn Storch www.jlynnphotographyonline.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up
I posted a couple weeks ago when I first found out about my kittens testing positive for FELV. Since than I have done a lot of research and have a much better understanding of what I'm dealing with. They are set to be tested again in July and if the snap test is positive we will be sending out for IFA testing. At this point it does seem as though chances are they are truly FELV (of course they still have the chance to "flip" or fight it off but it does not seem likely all 3 will nor does it seem that it was a false positive as all 3 kittens were tested separately, at different times with the tests administered by different peopleall coming back positive. So anyway Im located in Philly. More than willing and ready to drive any distance I can make in a weekend trip for them to find a good home. So please watch and share their video I made for them (it might make you laugh and cry). Video link: http://youtu.be/N0uqTPhYLTQ They are absolutely wonderful but I dont have space for 3 FELV negative cats in my home permanently let alone 3 positive cats. They will NOT be euthed due to this but I may have to turn them over to a FELV rescue if Im unable to find a good placement for them which I would hate to do after raising them :(. -- Jamielynn Storch www.jlynnphotographyonline.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
