Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!

2013-10-16 Thread katskat1
Agree totally with you Beth.  I have always mingled neg and pos as long as;
A:  The negatives are adult who have been vaccinated and given time for it
to circulate thru their systems
B.  they aren't young kittens who haven't been thru full series of shots
and given time for it to " take".   Young kittens are apparently much more
susceptible to this nasty condition.

I have never had a negative test positive later.

Good luck with your babies.

Kat


On Monday, October 14, 2013, Beth wrote:

> The tests are totally different. The IFA tests to see if the virus is
> circulating in the bone marrow, which means the cat will not throw off the
> virus. The ELISA snap tests for the virus in the blood. A cat can be
> positive on the snap test but negative on the IFA. This means they have a
> chance of throwing off the virus.
> So we know Baby is definitely positive.
> You might want to re-test Moe on the SNAP test & if positive do an IFA of
> just skip to the IFA. If the IFA on Moe is positive neither cat is going to
> throw off the virus & they can mingle.
>
> Just FYI, a lot of us here mix out positive & negative cats, vaccinating
> the negative cats. I have done so for almost 15 years & have never had the
> virus get transmitted to my negative cats. My old vet used to vaccinate my
> negative twice a year. Of coarse this is a personal decision.
>
> Good luck & thank you for keeping Moe & Baby & giving them a chance at
> life.
>
> Beth
>
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> *Sent:* Monday, October 14, 2013 6:43 PM
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!
>
> I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this.
>
>  I have two cats who have tested positive for felv.  One, Moe has tested
> positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart.  Baby,
> has tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two months apart.
>  Different vets were used.
>
>  They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative cats.
>
>  So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other?  Do I
> need Moe to be retested using the IFA?  Do I need Baby retested using the
> ELISA?
>
>  Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful.
>  Thank you so much!
>
>  Leslie & the furballs
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!

2013-10-16 Thread Lynda Wilson
Leslie, 

I just have a question for you, are your negative cats vaccinated for FeLV?

Lynda

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!

I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this.


I have two cats who have tested positive for felv.  One, Moe has tested 
positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart.  Baby, has 
tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two months apart.  
Different vets were used.


They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative cats.


So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other?  Do I need Moe 
to be retested using the IFA?  Do I need Baby retested using the ELISA?


Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful.  Thank 
you so much!


Leslie & the furballs



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Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!

2013-10-15 Thread one23disco
I just want them to be well as long as possible as well as happy.  We recently 
lost a 3 year old felv+ boy, Solo, and it happened very very quickly.



-Original Message-
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Cc: one23disco 
Sent: Tue, Oct 15, 2013 4:54 pm
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After Annie and Nitnoy both tested positive twice, no more testing.   Results 
won't change after that much time.  Just let them mix with everyone.  They will 
enjoy life much better.

 one23di...@aol.com wrote: 
> Thank you to everyone who responded - let me just clarify something.  
> 
> 
> The ELISA testing that was done on Moe (2.5 year old, tested a year apart) 
> was 
NOT the SNAP test done in office, but it was done at an outside lab, Antech 
Diagnositics.  
> 
> 
> Baby, the 4-5 month old, was both SNAP tested and IFA tested.
> 
> 
> So, does that change any recommendations?  One vet says that they can be put 
together.  The other vet says that to be sure, we should wait another month, 
and 
switch the testing on them.  Sigh..I am more confused than before if that 
is 
possible.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: one23disco 
> To: felvtalk 
> Sent: Mon, Oct 14, 2013 6:43 pm
> Subject: Please help with testing confusion!
> 
> 
> I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this.
> 
> 
> I have two cats who have tested positive for felv.  One, Moe has tested 
positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart.  Baby, has 
tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two months apart.  
Different vets were used.
> 
> 
> They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative cats.
> 
> 
> So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other?  Do I need 
Moe to be retested using the IFA?  Do I need Baby retested using the ELISA?
> 
> 
> Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful.  Thank 
you so much!
> 
> 
> Leslie & the furballs
> 
> 


 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!

2013-10-15 Thread dlgegg
After Annie and Nitnoy both tested positive twice, no more testing.   Results 
won't change after that much time.  Just let them mix with everyone.  They will 
enjoy life much better.

 one23di...@aol.com wrote: 
> Thank you to everyone who responded - let me just clarify something.  
> 
> 
> The ELISA testing that was done on Moe (2.5 year old, tested a year apart) 
> was NOT the SNAP test done in office, but it was done at an outside lab, 
> Antech Diagnositics.  
> 
> 
> Baby, the 4-5 month old, was both SNAP tested and IFA tested.
> 
> 
> So, does that change any recommendations?  One vet says that they can be put 
> together.  The other vet says that to be sure, we should wait another month, 
> and switch the testing on them.  Sigh..I am more confused than before if 
> that is possible.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: one23disco 
> To: felvtalk 
> Sent: Mon, Oct 14, 2013 6:43 pm
> Subject: Please help with testing confusion!
> 
> 
> I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this.
> 
> 
> I have two cats who have tested positive for felv.  One, Moe has tested 
> positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart.  Baby, has 
> tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two months apart.  
> Different vets were used.
> 
> 
> They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative cats.
> 
> 
> So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other?  Do I need 
> Moe to be retested using the IFA?  Do I need Baby retested using the ELISA?
> 
> 
> Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful.  Thank 
> you so much!
> 
> 
> Leslie & the furballs
> 
> 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!

2013-10-15 Thread dlgegg
Annie and Nitnoy were both positive.  Nitnoy passed from other causes after 2 
years.  Annie is still with me and the other 5 remaining cats.  She is healthy 
and the others get their vaccine for FELV.  They eat, sleep and drink together 
and no one else has become positive.  Let them mix unless they want to fight 
each other.  Mine squable, slapping and hissing and that is alright.

 Beth  wrote: 
> I would get the IFA done on Moe. More than likely at this point it will come 
> up positive.
If you have 2 cats with a positive IFA there is not way they are going to throw 
off the virus & could be together.

Beth



 
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Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!
 


Thank you to everyone who responded - let me just clarify something.   

The ELISA testing that was done on Moe (2.5 year old, tested a year apart) was 
NOT the SNAP test done in office, but it was done at an outside lab, Antech 
Diagnositics.  

Baby, the 4-5 month old, was both SNAP tested and IFA tested.

So, does that change any recommendations?  One vet says that they can be put 
together.  The other vet says that to be sure, we should wait another month, 
and switch the testing on them.  Sigh..I am more confused than before if 
that is possible.






-Original Message-
From: one23disco 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Mon, Oct 14, 2013 6:43 pm
Subject: Please help with testing confusion!


I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this.

I have two cats who have tested positive for felv.  One, Moe has tested 
positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart.  Baby, has 
tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two months apart.  
Different vets were used.

They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative cats.

So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other?  Do I need Moe 
to be retested using the IFA?  Do I need Baby retested using the ELISA?

Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful.  Thank 
you so much!

Leslie & the furballs

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Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!

2013-10-15 Thread Beth
I would get the IFA done on Moe. More than likely at this point it will come up 
positive.
If you have 2 cats with a positive IFA there is not way they are going to throw 
off the virus & could be together.

Beth



 
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!
 


Thank you to everyone who responded - let me just clarify something.   

The ELISA testing that was done on Moe (2.5 year old, tested a year apart) was 
NOT the SNAP test done in office, but it was done at an outside lab, Antech 
Diagnositics.  

Baby, the 4-5 month old, was both SNAP tested and IFA tested.

So, does that change any recommendations?  One vet says that they can be put 
together.  The other vet says that to be sure, we should wait another month, 
and switch the testing on them.  Sigh..I am more confused than before if 
that is possible.






-Original Message-
From: one23disco 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Mon, Oct 14, 2013 6:43 pm
Subject: Please help with testing confusion!


I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this.

I have two cats who have tested positive for felv.  One, Moe has tested 
positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart.  Baby, has 
tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two months apart.  
Different vets were used.

They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative cats.

So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other?  Do I need Moe 
to be retested using the IFA?  Do I need Baby retested using the ELISA?

Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful.  Thank 
you so much!

Leslie & the furballs

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Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!

2013-10-15 Thread one23disco
Thank you to everyone who responded - let me just clarify something.  


The ELISA testing that was done on Moe (2.5 year old, tested a year apart) was 
NOT the SNAP test done in office, but it was done at an outside lab, Antech 
Diagnositics.  


Baby, the 4-5 month old, was both SNAP tested and IFA tested.


So, does that change any recommendations?  One vet says that they can be put 
together.  The other vet says that to be sure, we should wait another month, 
and switch the testing on them.  Sigh..I am more confused than before if 
that is possible.







-Original Message-
From: one23disco 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Mon, Oct 14, 2013 6:43 pm
Subject: Please help with testing confusion!


I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this.


I have two cats who have tested positive for felv.  One, Moe has tested 
positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart.  Baby, has 
tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two months apart.  
Different vets were used.


They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative cats.


So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other?  Do I need Moe 
to be retested using the IFA?  Do I need Baby retested using the ELISA?


Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful.  Thank 
you so much!


Leslie & the furballs


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Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!

2013-10-15 Thread Lorrie
Leslie,

If they are both FelV positive the tests should not make a difference.
I have a FelV sanctuary and all my FelV cats are together and live in 
4 large rooms sharing litter, food & water.  If Moe and Baby are well
acquainted they will be happier living with each other than alone. If
they don't know each other you will have to do the introduction thing.

Lorrie


On 10-14, one23di...@aol.com wrote:
>I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this.
> 
>I have two cats who have tested positive for felv.  One, Moe has tested
>positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart.
>Baby, has tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two
>months apart.  Different vets were used.
> 
>They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative
>cats.
> 
>So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other?  Do I
>need Moe to be retested using the IFA?  Do I need Baby retested using
>the ELISA?
> 
>Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful.
> Thank you so much!
> 
>Leslie & the furballs


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Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!

2013-10-14 Thread Beth
The tests are totally different. The IFA tests to see if the virus is 
circulating in the bone marrow, which means the cat will not throw off the 
virus. The ELISA snap tests for the virus in the blood. A cat can be positive 
on the snap test but negative on the IFA. This means they have a chance of 
throwing off the virus. 
So we know Baby is definitely positive. 
You might want to re-test Moe on the SNAP test & if positive do an IFA of just 
skip to the IFA. If the IFA on Moe is positive neither cat is going to throw 
off the virus & they can mingle.

Just FYI, a lot of us here mix out positive & negative cats, vaccinating the 
negative cats. I have done so for almost 15 years & have never had the virus 
get transmitted to my negative cats. My old vet used to vaccinate my negative 
twice a year. Of coarse this is a personal decision.

Good luck & thank you for keeping Moe & Baby & giving them a chance at life.

Beth


 
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 From: "one23di...@aol.com" 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 6:43 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!
 


I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this.

I have two cats who have tested positive for felv.  One, Moe has tested 
positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart.  Baby, has 
tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two months apart.  
Different vets were used.

They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative cats.

So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other?  Do I need Moe 
to be retested using the IFA?  Do I need Baby retested using the ELISA?

Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful.  Thank 
you so much!

Leslie & the furballs
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[Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!

2013-10-14 Thread one23disco

I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this.


I have two cats who have tested positive for felv.  One, Moe has tested 
positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart.  Baby, has 
tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two months apart.  
Different vets were used.


They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative cats.


So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other?  Do I need Moe 
to be retested using the IFA?  Do I need Baby retested using the ELISA?


Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful.  Thank 
you so much!


Leslie & the furballs
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