Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!
Agree totally with you Beth. I have always mingled neg and pos as long as; A: The negatives are adult who have been vaccinated and given time for it to circulate thru their systems B. they aren't young kittens who haven't been thru full series of shots and given time for it to " take". Young kittens are apparently much more susceptible to this nasty condition. I have never had a negative test positive later. Good luck with your babies. Kat On Monday, October 14, 2013, Beth wrote: > The tests are totally different. The IFA tests to see if the virus is > circulating in the bone marrow, which means the cat will not throw off the > virus. The ELISA snap tests for the virus in the blood. A cat can be > positive on the snap test but negative on the IFA. This means they have a > chance of throwing off the virus. > So we know Baby is definitely positive. > You might want to re-test Moe on the SNAP test & if positive do an IFA of > just skip to the IFA. If the IFA on Moe is positive neither cat is going to > throw off the virus & they can mingle. > > Just FYI, a lot of us here mix out positive & negative cats, vaccinating > the negative cats. I have done so for almost 15 years & have never had the > virus get transmitted to my negative cats. My old vet used to vaccinate my > negative twice a year. Of coarse this is a personal decision. > > Good luck & thank you for keeping Moe & Baby & giving them a chance at > life. > > Beth > > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/> > > > -- > *From:* "one23di...@aol.com 'one23di...@aol.com');>" 'one23di...@aol.com');>> > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org');> > *Sent:* Monday, October 14, 2013 6:43 PM > *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion! > > I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this. > > I have two cats who have tested positive for felv. One, Moe has tested > positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart. Baby, > has tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two months apart. > Different vets were used. > > They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative cats. > > So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other? Do I > need Moe to be retested using the IFA? Do I need Baby retested using the > ELISA? > > Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful. > Thank you so much! > > Leslie & the furballs > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 'Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org');> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!
Leslie, I just have a question for you, are your negative cats vaccinated for FeLV? Lynda From: one23di...@aol.com Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 5:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion! I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this. I have two cats who have tested positive for felv. One, Moe has tested positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart. Baby, has tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two months apart. Different vets were used. They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative cats. So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other? Do I need Moe to be retested using the IFA? Do I need Baby retested using the ELISA? Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful. Thank you so much! Leslie & the furballs ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!
I just want them to be well as long as possible as well as happy. We recently lost a 3 year old felv+ boy, Solo, and it happened very very quickly. -Original Message- From: dlgegg To: felvtalk Cc: one23disco Sent: Tue, Oct 15, 2013 4:54 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion! After Annie and Nitnoy both tested positive twice, no more testing. Results won't change after that much time. Just let them mix with everyone. They will enjoy life much better. one23di...@aol.com wrote: > Thank you to everyone who responded - let me just clarify something. > > > The ELISA testing that was done on Moe (2.5 year old, tested a year apart) > was NOT the SNAP test done in office, but it was done at an outside lab, Antech Diagnositics. > > > Baby, the 4-5 month old, was both SNAP tested and IFA tested. > > > So, does that change any recommendations? One vet says that they can be put together. The other vet says that to be sure, we should wait another month, and switch the testing on them. Sigh..I am more confused than before if that is possible. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: one23disco > To: felvtalk > Sent: Mon, Oct 14, 2013 6:43 pm > Subject: Please help with testing confusion! > > > I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this. > > > I have two cats who have tested positive for felv. One, Moe has tested positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart. Baby, has tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two months apart. Different vets were used. > > > They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative cats. > > > So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other? Do I need Moe to be retested using the IFA? Do I need Baby retested using the ELISA? > > > Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful. Thank you so much! > > > Leslie & the furballs > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!
After Annie and Nitnoy both tested positive twice, no more testing. Results won't change after that much time. Just let them mix with everyone. They will enjoy life much better. one23di...@aol.com wrote: > Thank you to everyone who responded - let me just clarify something. > > > The ELISA testing that was done on Moe (2.5 year old, tested a year apart) > was NOT the SNAP test done in office, but it was done at an outside lab, > Antech Diagnositics. > > > Baby, the 4-5 month old, was both SNAP tested and IFA tested. > > > So, does that change any recommendations? One vet says that they can be put > together. The other vet says that to be sure, we should wait another month, > and switch the testing on them. Sigh..I am more confused than before if > that is possible. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: one23disco > To: felvtalk > Sent: Mon, Oct 14, 2013 6:43 pm > Subject: Please help with testing confusion! > > > I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this. > > > I have two cats who have tested positive for felv. One, Moe has tested > positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart. Baby, has > tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two months apart. > Different vets were used. > > > They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative cats. > > > So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other? Do I need > Moe to be retested using the IFA? Do I need Baby retested using the ELISA? > > > Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful. Thank > you so much! > > > Leslie & the furballs > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!
Annie and Nitnoy were both positive. Nitnoy passed from other causes after 2 years. Annie is still with me and the other 5 remaining cats. She is healthy and the others get their vaccine for FELV. They eat, sleep and drink together and no one else has become positive. Let them mix unless they want to fight each other. Mine squable, slapping and hissing and that is alright. Beth wrote: > I would get the IFA done on Moe. More than likely at this point it will come > up positive. If you have 2 cats with a positive IFA there is not way they are going to throw off the virus & could be together. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: "one23di...@aol.com" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion! Thank you to everyone who responded - let me just clarify something. The ELISA testing that was done on Moe (2.5 year old, tested a year apart) was NOT the SNAP test done in office, but it was done at an outside lab, Antech Diagnositics. Baby, the 4-5 month old, was both SNAP tested and IFA tested. So, does that change any recommendations? One vet says that they can be put together. The other vet says that to be sure, we should wait another month, and switch the testing on them. Sigh..I am more confused than before if that is possible. -Original Message- From: one23disco To: felvtalk Sent: Mon, Oct 14, 2013 6:43 pm Subject: Please help with testing confusion! I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this. I have two cats who have tested positive for felv. One, Moe has tested positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart. Baby, has tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two months apart. Different vets were used. They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative cats. So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other? Do I need Moe to be retested using the IFA? Do I need Baby retested using the ELISA? Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful. Thank you so much! Leslie & the furballs ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!
I would get the IFA done on Moe. More than likely at this point it will come up positive. If you have 2 cats with a positive IFA there is not way they are going to throw off the virus & could be together. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: "one23di...@aol.com" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion! Thank you to everyone who responded - let me just clarify something. The ELISA testing that was done on Moe (2.5 year old, tested a year apart) was NOT the SNAP test done in office, but it was done at an outside lab, Antech Diagnositics. Baby, the 4-5 month old, was both SNAP tested and IFA tested. So, does that change any recommendations? One vet says that they can be put together. The other vet says that to be sure, we should wait another month, and switch the testing on them. Sigh..I am more confused than before if that is possible. -Original Message- From: one23disco To: felvtalk Sent: Mon, Oct 14, 2013 6:43 pm Subject: Please help with testing confusion! I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this. I have two cats who have tested positive for felv. One, Moe has tested positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart. Baby, has tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two months apart. Different vets were used. They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative cats. So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other? Do I need Moe to be retested using the IFA? Do I need Baby retested using the ELISA? Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful. Thank you so much! Leslie & the furballs ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!
Thank you to everyone who responded - let me just clarify something. The ELISA testing that was done on Moe (2.5 year old, tested a year apart) was NOT the SNAP test done in office, but it was done at an outside lab, Antech Diagnositics. Baby, the 4-5 month old, was both SNAP tested and IFA tested. So, does that change any recommendations? One vet says that they can be put together. The other vet says that to be sure, we should wait another month, and switch the testing on them. Sigh..I am more confused than before if that is possible. -Original Message- From: one23disco To: felvtalk Sent: Mon, Oct 14, 2013 6:43 pm Subject: Please help with testing confusion! I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this. I have two cats who have tested positive for felv. One, Moe has tested positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart. Baby, has tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two months apart. Different vets were used. They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative cats. So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other? Do I need Moe to be retested using the IFA? Do I need Baby retested using the ELISA? Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful. Thank you so much! Leslie & the furballs ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!
Leslie, If they are both FelV positive the tests should not make a difference. I have a FelV sanctuary and all my FelV cats are together and live in 4 large rooms sharing litter, food & water. If Moe and Baby are well acquainted they will be happier living with each other than alone. If they don't know each other you will have to do the introduction thing. Lorrie On 10-14, one23di...@aol.com wrote: >I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this. > >I have two cats who have tested positive for felv. One, Moe has tested >positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart. >Baby, has tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two >months apart. Different vets were used. > >They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative >cats. > >So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other? Do I >need Moe to be retested using the IFA? Do I need Baby retested using >the ELISA? > >Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful. > Thank you so much! > >Leslie & the furballs ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!
The tests are totally different. The IFA tests to see if the virus is circulating in the bone marrow, which means the cat will not throw off the virus. The ELISA snap tests for the virus in the blood. A cat can be positive on the snap test but negative on the IFA. This means they have a chance of throwing off the virus. So we know Baby is definitely positive. You might want to re-test Moe on the SNAP test & if positive do an IFA of just skip to the IFA. If the IFA on Moe is positive neither cat is going to throw off the virus & they can mingle. Just FYI, a lot of us here mix out positive & negative cats, vaccinating the negative cats. I have done so for almost 15 years & have never had the virus get transmitted to my negative cats. My old vet used to vaccinate my negative twice a year. Of coarse this is a personal decision. Good luck & thank you for keeping Moe & Baby & giving them a chance at life. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: "one23di...@aol.com" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 6:43 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion! I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this. I have two cats who have tested positive for felv. One, Moe has tested positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart. Baby, has tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two months apart. Different vets were used. They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative cats. So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other? Do I need Moe to be retested using the IFA? Do I need Baby retested using the ELISA? Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful. Thank you so much! Leslie & the furballs ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Please help with testing confusion!
I'm confused and hope people can help me to understand this. I have two cats who have tested positive for felv. One, Moe has tested positive twice on the ELISA, and the tests were done a year apart. Baby, has tested positive both on a SNAP and an IFA test - done two months apart. Different vets were used. They have been kept separate, both from each other and our negative cats. So, the question is can they be safely introduced to each other? Do I need Moe to be retested using the IFA? Do I need Baby retested using the ELISA? Please, any light that can be shed on this will be incredibly helpful. Thank you so much! Leslie & the furballs ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org