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Has anyone ever heard of a highly (FeLV) symptomatic cat who, with treatment, becomes asymptomatic and then retests negative? Jane ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Greetings Everyone, We recently took in a kitten someone was going to put down from our vet, and last night I was awaken in the middle of the night by a howling noise, i thought it was our older cat but it was the kitten, she was growling in the corner and for some reason went to the bathroom on the floor instead of her litter box, is this common among FeLV cats? It was dr jeckle and Mr. Hyde, she was back to her loving self this morning? I'm so confused I've never seen an animal behave like that? When my older cat was dx he was more so "sick" we thought he swallowed a bone? talk about one of the worst days ever! Has anyone else had this happen? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I've had MeMe for three years, this month. Considering the condition she was in when we got her she has done very well. There are two things that concern me right now and I was wondering if anyone on the list had any ideas. Her coat is in terrible condition. It is hard to describe but it looks somewhat oily and really bedraggled. I guess it should not look healthy since she has Felv, but it is a dramatic change from her once fluffy coat. It has been this way for a few months. During the past week she has had a deep, almost guttural cough. I have only heard it a few times, possibly once a day, but I've heard it. She's just finished 10 days of Clavamox to help keep her stomatitis in check. She is eating very well but something is off and I am not sure what. Her posture is different. She has her paws tucked under her chest. We've started her on LTCI injections just before Christmas and I have a vet who is making house calls to inject her and he will be here today. He has not seen the change in her coat nor heard this deep cough. I'm not sure what he can determine without bloodwork. I was hoping that someone with a Felv cat might have seen similar changes and had an idea where to begin. Sorry this is all so vague. Jane ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi - I've been reading posts for a bit and decided I needed some advice too. I have a FelV kitten who is 1 year old. I've had her since she was just a little more than a month old. She tested positive twice and the vet has yet been able to physically examine her or get a blood test since. She isn't feral but her dislike of the vet and people is probably her strength and fight to stay alive. I feed her really good kitten food and mixed with astragalus and ligustrum twice daily and l-lysine. She's also been on antibiotics for a nose and eye infection, not to mention the fleas, ear mites, tongue ulcers and lacerations on her legs when I first rescued her but she hasn't been on antibiotics for 4 months at least. (So antibiotics for most of her life). She's gone from a pound to 7.2 lbs. So I've seen a great improvement. The nose infection has never cleared, so boogers are a constant, although more a yellow to clear than the original greenish mucous. I recognize that I need to get her in for a complete blood work. She eats well, drinks a lot and other than the boogers, seems healthy. Would you suggest anything now other than the blood work for my girl Bear ? Thanks Marlene Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have three cats, and take care of other people’s cats. My daughter’s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after the cat goes back home? It’s because I take care of other friend’s cats also and want to know if they can catch The disease. Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hello, My girl is 4 years old and has had FeLV for 3 years. We took in a kitten 3 years ago who tested negative for it. The two were together after that and 6 months later, I found out the negative was false. The kitten was actually a positive. When I tested my other girl, she also had it. Kitten has since passed after 3 years of living with it, but my other girl is still going strong. I had her retested yesterday because you would just never know she has it. It was still positive. Could she be a carrier? The vet was very pleased with the blood work as it was perfect. He thought she may be a carrier. Wanted to have your thoughts. Although she is doing so well, should I be giving her something to help her? Maybe to keep the immune system strong? Thank you. Nancy___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have not. Isabella was highly symptomatic and with treatment is asymptomatic but still FeLV+. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] question Has anyone ever heard of a highly (FeLV) symptomatic cat who, with treatment, becomes asymptomatic and then retests negative? Jane ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I had one who was very sick and became well and lived an additional 5 years, but she never tested negative. She also never passed the disease to anyone else. tonya Jane Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone ever heard of a highly (FeLV) symptomatic cat who, with treatment, becomes asymptomatic and then retests negative? Jane ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks both Laurie and Tonya. I was hoping for a different answer but we're grateful for no symptoms and for every good day. Thanks for responding. Jane On Jul 21, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Laurieskatz wrote: > I have not. Isabella was highly symptomatic and with treatment is > asymptomatic but still FeLV+. > Laurie > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:17 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] question > > Has anyone ever heard of a highly (FeLV) symptomatic cat who, with > treatment, becomes asymptomatic and then > retests negative? > > Jane > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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you have to define, "highly symptomatic" cat--if a positive cat gets lymphoma, yeah, the odds are that it's a result of the FeLV infection--same with anemia, but i don't know that there is yet any way to KNOW that any symptomatolgy can be proven to be FeLV-related. and i think that it's a cop-out that vets have used, just as they've used the best-treatment-is-to-just-kill-them line for all these years to blame everything that happens to any FeLV, or FIV on the virus. so much easier than trying to actually find out what's going on. just as for the past few years, anytime a vet can't figure out what's going on, the diagnosis is FIP. so do i know cats who tested positive--on a single ELISA back when we thought that was enough--then went through a series of really bad illness yet got better with treatment, then years late when retested routinely turned out to be positive on both an ELISA and IFA? yes--a few of them, in fact. do i now think they were actually positive, as in persistently viremic? nope--i think that they were originally tested during the period close to exposure, and had we retested them correctly, they would have tested negative. instead, they just lived with positives (many of whom HAVE been tested the second time to be positive, now that we know better) for years, being cats--being healthy, getting sick, getting treated, getting better. were their symptoms FeLV-related? obviously not. do i truly believe that there are any treatments out there YET that can cause a truly positive cat to experience an opportunistic infection or immune-compromised disorder due TO the damage from the virus itself, then throw off the virus? no, i do not. i think that if there were, we'd know about it by now. if there were, there would be independent research backing up the claims, there would be peer-reviewed articles, there would be trumpets blowing. what there are, instead, i'm afraid, are companies that take great advantage of the people who want desperately to believe that there is such a treatment out there. but there are no long-term treatments for a lot of things that can happen to our companions, and in many cases, the only symptom is death (thinking of some of the heart-related conditions here)--so i'm not sure how it matters. there just aren't any guarantees for the negatives, either, and if we decide we are gonna stop loving the ones who might die some day, well MC On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Jane Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone ever heard of a highly (FeLV) symptomatic cat who, with > treatment, becomes asymptomatic and then > retests negative? > > Jane > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Jane, My cat was very sick, became well for another two years, and then developed anemia and passed away. I wouldn't give anything for those 2 years, when he was fine. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Jane Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:17:00 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] question Has anyone ever heard of a highly (FeLV) symptomatic cat who, with treatment, becomes asymptomatic and then retests negative? Jane ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi wendy and Jane, My sentiments exactly regarding my precoius Junior. Should I ever be faced with this again I feel much better equiped to handle it. Sally On 7/24/08, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Jane, > > > > My cat was very sick, became well for another two years, and then developed > anemia and passed away. I wouldn't give anything for those 2 years, when he > was fine. > > > > :) > > Wendy > > > > > > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change > the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret > Meade ~~~ > > > - Original Message > From: Jane Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:17:00 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] question > > Has anyone ever heard of a highly (FeLV) symptomatic cat who, with > treatment, becomes asymptomatic and then > retests negative? > > Jane > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I'm no expert here, but this doesn't sound to me as though it's related to FeLV. My first inclination would be to look for something causing painful elimination. Good luck to you, Sara -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Joslin Potter Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 9:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Question Greetings Everyone, We recently took in a kitten someone was going to put down from our vet, and last night I was awaken in the middle of the night by a howling noise, i thought it was our older cat but it was the kitten, she was growling in the corner and for some reason went to the bathroom on the floor instead of her litter box, is this common among FeLV cats? It was dr jeckle and Mr. Hyde, she was back to her loving self this morning? I'm so confused I've never seen an animal behave like that? When my older cat was dx he was more so "sick" we thought he swallowed a bone? talk about one of the worst days ever! Has anyone else had this happen? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 6335 (20110729) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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The poor cat may have been confused/scared, bullied or thought to have been bullied by another cat - is that possible? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Joslin Potter Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Question Greetings Everyone, We recently took in a kitten someone was going to put down from our vet, and last night I was awaken in the middle of the night by a howling noise, i thought it was our older cat but it was the kitten, she was growling in the corner and for some reason went to the bathroom on the floor instead of her litter box, is this common among FeLV cats? It was dr jeckle and Mr. Hyde, she was back to her loving self this morning? I'm so confused I've never seen an animal behave like that? When my older cat was dx he was more so "sick" we thought he swallowed a bone? talk about one of the worst days ever! Has anyone else had this happen? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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SOunds like either stones or a bad URI because those are very very painful and a trip to the vet ASAP is in order. Edna > From: skastel...@cicresearch.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:15:17 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > > I'm no expert here, but this doesn't sound to me as though it's related to > FeLV. My first inclination would be to look for something causing painful > elimination. > > Good luck to you, > Sara > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Joslin Potter > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 9:55 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question > > Greetings Everyone, > > We recently took in a kitten someone was going to put down from our vet, and > last night I was awaken in the middle of the night by a howling noise, i > thought it was our older cat but it was the kitten, she was growling in the > corner and for some reason went to the bathroom on the floor instead of her > litter box, is this common among FeLV cats? It was dr jeckle and Mr. Hyde, > she was back to her loving self this morning? I'm so confused I've never > seen an animal behave like that? When my older cat was dx he was more so > "sick" we thought he swallowed a bone? talk about one of the worst days > ever! > > Has anyone else had this happen? > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > __ NOD32 6335 (20110729) Information __ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My very sweet little girl, Mi Tu, turned into a problem cat because of bladder stones. I took her to the vets several times. They checked her, did routine lab tests and everything they could think of. I was finally at the end of my rope and they had been doing their research. The vets drew urine from the bladder. The stones were there and we got her the treatment she needed. She was in a lot of pain but the symptoms presented were for a behavioral disorder. On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: SOunds like either stones or a bad URI because those are very very painful and a trip to the vet ASAP is in order. Edna From: skastel...@cicresearch.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:15:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question I'm no expert here, but this doesn't sound to me as though it's related to FeLV. My first inclination would be to look for something causing painful elimination. Good luck to you, Sara -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Joslin Potter Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 9:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Question Greetings Everyone, We recently took in a kitten someone was going to put down from our vet, and last night I was awaken in the middle of the night by a howling noise, i thought it was our older cat but it was the kitten, she was growling in the corner and for some reason went to the bathroom on the floor instead of her litter box, is this common among FeLV cats? It was dr jeckle and Mr. Hyde, she was back to her loving self this morning? I'm so confused I've never seen an animal behave like that? When my older cat was dx he was more so "sick" we thought he swallowed a bone? talk about one of the worst days ever! Has anyone else had this happen? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 6335 (20110729) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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What did your vet do for the stones. Bug has kidney stones and the vet said that there really is not a lot they can do for those. I tried feeding her the special food but she wouldn't eat it and the vet said if she is eating anything else (very hard to feed individually when you have more than 10 cats) then it was not doing her any good to eat the prescription diet :( > From: maima...@gmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:42:56 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > > My very sweet little girl, Mi Tu, turned into a problem cat because of > bladder stones. I took her to the vets several times. They checked > her, did routine lab tests and everything they could think of. I was > finally at the end of my rope and they had been doing their research. > The vets drew urine from the bladder. The stones were there and we > got her the treatment she needed. She was in a lot of pain but the > symptoms presented were for a behavioral disorder. > On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: > > > > > SOunds like either stones or a bad URI because those are very very > > painful and a trip to the vet ASAP is in order. > > > > Edna > > > > > >> From: skastel...@cicresearch.com > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:15:17 -0700 > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > >> > >> I'm no expert here, but this doesn't sound to me as though it's > >> related to > >> FeLV. My first inclination would be to look for something causing > >> painful > >> elimination. > >> > >> Good luck to you, > >> Sara > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Joslin > >> Potter > >> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 9:55 AM > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question > >> > >> Greetings Everyone, > >> > >> We recently took in a kitten someone was going to put down from our > >> vet, and > >> last night I was awaken in the middle of the night by a howling > >> noise, i > >> thought it was our older cat but it was the kitten, she was > >> growling in the > >> corner and for some reason went to the bathroom on the floor > >> instead of her > >> litter box, is this common among FeLV cats? It was dr jeckle and > >> Mr. Hyde, > >> she was back to her loving self this morning? I'm so confused I've > >> never > >> seen an animal behave like that? When my older cat was dx he was > >> more so > >> "sick" we thought he swallowed a bone? talk about one of the worst > >> days > >> ever! > >> > >> Has anyone else had this happen? > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ > >> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> __ NOD32 6335 (20110729) Information __ > >> > >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >> http://www.eset.com > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ > >> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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It has been 15 + years since she left this world (not related to the stones). There were antibiotics and steriods I think. Somehow I think there was meds to deal with the urine PH. Sorry I can't give more information. Now I would check with a holistic vet as well as my regular vets. On Jul 29, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: What did your vet do for the stones. Bug has kidney stones and the vet said that there really is not a lot they can do for those. I tried feeding her the special food but she wouldn't eat it and the vet said if she is eating anything else (very hard to feed individually when you have more than 10 cats) then it was not doing her any good to eat the prescription diet :( From: maima...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:42:56 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question My very sweet little girl, Mi Tu, turned into a problem cat because of bladder stones. I took her to the vets several times. They checked her, did routine lab tests and everything they could think of. I was finally at the end of my rope and they had been doing their research. The vets drew urine from the bladder. The stones were there and we got her the treatment she needed. She was in a lot of pain but the symptoms presented were for a behavioral disorder. On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: SOunds like either stones or a bad URI because those are very very painful and a trip to the vet ASAP is in order. Edna From: skastel...@cicresearch.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:15:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question I'm no expert here, but this doesn't sound to me as though it's related to FeLV. My first inclination would be to look for something causing painful elimination. Good luck to you, Sara -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Joslin Potter Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 9:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Question Greetings Everyone, We recently took in a kitten someone was going to put down from our vet, and last night I was awaken in the middle of the night by a howling noise, i thought it was our older cat but it was the kitten, she was growling in the corner and for some reason went to the bathroom on the floor instead of her litter box, is this common among FeLV cats? It was dr jeckle and Mr. Hyde, she was back to her loving self this morning? I'm so confused I've never seen an animal behave like that? When my older cat was dx he was more so "sick" we thought he swallowed a bone? talk about one of the worst days ever! Has anyone else had this happen? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 6335 (20110729) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My vet gave Homey a antbiotic shot that lasts 2 weeks - easier than pills or liquids daily. I also got a Chinese herbal pill from All Natural Pets. It is a small, round gel cap. Goes down real easy, before she has a chance to spit it out. It has dendrobium in it and other herbs. She is in good shape now and I monitor her intake and output. The thing that tipped me off to a problem was small urine balls in the boxes about the size of a quarter. I started watching everyone to see what they were putting out. Easy since I have a box next to the stool in my bathroom. When mother goes, everyone else has to go so mom can see what is going on. MaiMaiPG wrote: > It has been 15 + years since she left this world (not related to the > stones). There were antibiotics and steriods I think. Somehow I > think there was meds to deal with the urine PH. Sorry I can't give > more information. Now I would check with a holistic vet as well as my > regular vets. > On Jul 29, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: > > > > > What did your vet do for the stones. Bug has kidney stones and the > > vet said that there really is not a lot they can do for those. I > > tried feeding her the special food but she wouldn't eat it and the > > vet said if she is eating anything else (very hard to feed > > individually when you have more than 10 cats) then it was not doing > > her any good to eat the prescription diet :( > > > > > >> From: maima...@gmail.com > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:42:56 -0500 > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > >> > >> My very sweet little girl, Mi Tu, turned into a problem cat because > >> of > >> bladder stones. I took her to the vets several times. They checked > >> her, did routine lab tests and everything they could think of. I was > >> finally at the end of my rope and they had been doing their research. > >> The vets drew urine from the bladder. The stones were there and we > >> got her the treatment she needed. She was in a lot of pain but the > >> symptoms presented were for a behavioral disorder. > >> On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> SOunds like either stones or a bad URI because those are very very > >>> painful and a trip to the vet ASAP is in order. > >>> > >>> Edna > >>> > >>> > >>>> From: skastel...@cicresearch.com > >>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>>> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:15:17 -0700 > >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > >>>> > >>>> I'm no expert here, but this doesn't sound to me as though it's > >>>> related to > >>>> FeLV. My first inclination would be to look for something causing > >>>> painful > >>>> elimination. > >>>> > >>>> Good luck to you, > >>>> Sara > >>>> > >>>> -Original Message- > >>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > >>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Joslin > >>>> Potter > >>>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 9:55 AM > >>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question > >>>> > >>>> Greetings Everyone, > >>>> > >>>> We recently took in a kitten someone was going to put down from our > >>>> vet, and > >>>> last night I was awaken in the middle of the night by a howling > >>>> noise, i > >>>> thought it was our older cat but it was the kitten, she was > >>>> growling in the > >>>> corner and for some reason went to the bathroom on the floor > >>>> instead of her > >>>> litter box, is this common among FeLV cats? It was dr jeckle and > >>>> Mr. Hyde, > >>>> she was back to her loving self this morning? I'm so confused I've > >>>> never > >>>> seen an animal behave like that? When my older cat was dx he was > >>>> more so > >>>> "sick" we thought he swallowed a bone? talk about one of the worst > >>>> days > >>>> ever! > >>>> > >>>> Has anyone else had this happen? > >>>> ___ > >>>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>>> Felvtalk@f
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Almost forgot, they say that foods containing fish may be a contributor for sturivite stones. Maybe stay away from fishy things for a bit and see if that helps. Especially watch the treats, they are usually heavy on fish content. Edna Taylor wrote: > > What did your vet do for the stones. Bug has kidney stones and the vet said > that there really is not a lot they can do for those. I tried feeding her > the special food but she wouldn't eat it and the vet said if she is eating > anything else (very hard to feed individually when you have more than 10 > cats) then it was not doing her any good to eat the prescription diet :( > > > > From: maima...@gmail.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:42:56 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > > > > My very sweet little girl, Mi Tu, turned into a problem cat because of > > bladder stones. I took her to the vets several times. They checked > > her, did routine lab tests and everything they could think of. I was > > finally at the end of my rope and they had been doing their research. > > The vets drew urine from the bladder. The stones were there and we > > got her the treatment she needed. She was in a lot of pain but the > > symptoms presented were for a behavioral disorder. > > On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: > > > > > > > > SOunds like either stones or a bad URI because those are very very > > > painful and a trip to the vet ASAP is in order. > > > > > > Edna > > > > > > > > >> From: skastel...@cicresearch.com > > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:15:17 -0700 > > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > > >> > > >> I'm no expert here, but this doesn't sound to me as though it's > > >> related to > > >> FeLV. My first inclination would be to look for something causing > > >> painful > > >> elimination. > > >> > > >> Good luck to you, > > >> Sara > > >> > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Joslin > > >> Potter > > >> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 9:55 AM > > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question > > >> > > >> Greetings Everyone, > > >> > > >> We recently took in a kitten someone was going to put down from our > > >> vet, and > > >> last night I was awaken in the middle of the night by a howling > > >> noise, i > > >> thought it was our older cat but it was the kitten, she was > > >> growling in the > > >> corner and for some reason went to the bathroom on the floor > > >> instead of her > > >> litter box, is this common among FeLV cats? It was dr jeckle and > > >> Mr. Hyde, > > >> she was back to her loving self this morning? I'm so confused I've > > >> never > > >> seen an animal behave like that? When my older cat was dx he was > > >> more so > > >> "sick" we thought he swallowed a bone? talk about one of the worst > > >> days > > >> ever! > > >> > > >> Has anyone else had this happen? > > >> ___ > > >> Felvtalk mailing list > > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ > > >> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >> > > >> __ NOD32 6335 (20110729) Information __ > > >> > > >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > >> http://www.eset.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> Felvtalk mailing list > > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ > > >> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ___ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I agree, stop any fish! Here's a list of good info on feline kidney stones and a variety of treatments: http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=Feline+kidney+stones -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question Almost forgot, they say that foods containing fish may be a contributor for sturivite stones. Maybe stay away from fishy things for a bit and see if that helps. Especially watch the treats, they are usually heavy on fish content. Edna Taylor wrote: > > What did your vet do for the stones. Bug has kidney stones and the vet said that there really is not a lot they can do for those. I tried feeding her the special food but she wouldn't eat it and the vet said if she is eating anything else (very hard to feed individually when you have more than 10 cats) then it was not doing her any good to eat the prescription diet :( > > > > From: maima...@gmail.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:42:56 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > > > > My very sweet little girl, Mi Tu, turned into a problem cat because of > > bladder stones. I took her to the vets several times. They checked > > her, did routine lab tests and everything they could think of. I was > > finally at the end of my rope and they had been doing their research. > > The vets drew urine from the bladder. The stones were there and we > > got her the treatment she needed. She was in a lot of pain but the > > symptoms presented were for a behavioral disorder. > > On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: > > > > > > > > SOunds like either stones or a bad URI because those are very very > > > painful and a trip to the vet ASAP is in order. > > > > > > Edna > > > > > > > > >> From: skastel...@cicresearch.com > > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:15:17 -0700 > > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > > >> > > >> I'm no expert here, but this doesn't sound to me as though it's > > >> related to > > >> FeLV. My first inclination would be to look for something causing > > >> painful > > >> elimination. > > >> > > >> Good luck to you, > > >> Sara > > >> > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Joslin > > >> Potter > > >> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 9:55 AM > > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question > > >> > > >> Greetings Everyone, > > >> > > >> We recently took in a kitten someone was going to put down from our > > >> vet, and > > >> last night I was awaken in the middle of the night by a howling > > >> noise, i > > >> thought it was our older cat but it was the kitten, she was > > >> growling in the > > >> corner and for some reason went to the bathroom on the floor > > >> instead of her > > >> litter box, is this common among FeLV cats? It was dr jeckle and > > >> Mr. Hyde, > > >> she was back to her loving self this morning? I'm so confused I've > > >> never > > >> seen an animal behave like that? When my older cat was dx he was > > >> more so > > >> "sick" we thought he swallowed a bone? talk about one of the worst > > >> days > > >> ever! > > >> > > >> Has anyone else had this happen? > > >> ___ > > >> Felvtalk mailing list > > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ > > >> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >> > > >> __ NOD32 6335 (20110729) Information __ > > >> > > >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > >> http://www.eset.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> Felvtalk mailing list > > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ > > >> felvtalk_felineleukem
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Ho covenient! Just got an email from Only Natura Pet Store. The pills I mentioned are made by Nature's Herbs for Pets b a Dr. Victor Tse. MaiMaiPG wrote: > It has been 15 + years since she left this world (not related to the > stones). There were antibiotics and steriods I think. Somehow I > think there was meds to deal with the urine PH. Sorry I can't give > more information. Now I would check with a holistic vet as well as my > regular vets. > On Jul 29, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: > > > > > What did your vet do for the stones. Bug has kidney stones and the > > vet said that there really is not a lot they can do for those. I > > tried feeding her the special food but she wouldn't eat it and the > > vet said if she is eating anything else (very hard to feed > > individually when you have more than 10 cats) then it was not doing > > her any good to eat the prescription diet :( > > > > > >> From: maima...@gmail.com > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:42:56 -0500 > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > >> > >> My very sweet little girl, Mi Tu, turned into a problem cat because > >> of > >> bladder stones. I took her to the vets several times. They checked > >> her, did routine lab tests and everything they could think of. I was > >> finally at the end of my rope and they had been doing their research. > >> The vets drew urine from the bladder. The stones were there and we > >> got her the treatment she needed. She was in a lot of pain but the > >> symptoms presented were for a behavioral disorder. > >> On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> SOunds like either stones or a bad URI because those are very very > >>> painful and a trip to the vet ASAP is in order. > >>> > >>> Edna > >>> > >>> > >>>> From: skastel...@cicresearch.com > >>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>>> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:15:17 -0700 > >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > >>>> > >>>> I'm no expert here, but this doesn't sound to me as though it's > >>>> related to > >>>> FeLV. My first inclination would be to look for something causing > >>>> painful > >>>> elimination. > >>>> > >>>> Good luck to you, > >>>> Sara > >>>> > >>>> -Original Message- > >>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > >>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Joslin > >>>> Potter > >>>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 9:55 AM > >>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question > >>>> > >>>> Greetings Everyone, > >>>> > >>>> We recently took in a kitten someone was going to put down from our > >>>> vet, and > >>>> last night I was awaken in the middle of the night by a howling > >>>> noise, i > >>>> thought it was our older cat but it was the kitten, she was > >>>> growling in the > >>>> corner and for some reason went to the bathroom on the floor > >>>> instead of her > >>>> litter box, is this common among FeLV cats? It was dr jeckle and > >>>> Mr. Hyde, > >>>> she was back to her loving self this morning? I'm so confused I've > >>>> never > >>>> seen an animal behave like that? When my older cat was dx he was > >>>> more so > >>>> "sick" we thought he swallowed a bone? talk about one of the worst > >>>> days > >>>> ever! > >>>> > >>>> Has anyone else had this happen? > >>>> ___ > >>>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ > >>>> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >>>> > >>>> __ NOD32 6335 (20110729) Information __ > >>>> > >>>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >>>> http://www.eset.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ___ > >>>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ > >>>> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ > >> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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A trip to the vet and try some herbal remidies for stones. Edna Taylor wrote: > > SOunds like either stones or a bad URI because those are very very painful > and a trip to the vet ASAP is in order. > > Edna > > > > From: skastel...@cicresearch.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:15:17 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > > > > I'm no expert here, but this doesn't sound to me as though it's related to > > FeLV. My first inclination would be to look for something causing painful > > elimination. > > > > Good luck to you, > > Sara > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Joslin Potter > > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 9:55 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question > > > > Greetings Everyone, > > > > We recently took in a kitten someone was going to put down from our vet, and > > last night I was awaken in the middle of the night by a howling noise, i > > thought it was our older cat but it was the kitten, she was growling in the > > corner and for some reason went to the bathroom on the floor instead of her > > litter box, is this common among FeLV cats? It was dr jeckle and Mr. Hyde, > > she was back to her loving self this morning? I'm so confused I've never > > seen an animal behave like that? When my older cat was dx he was more so > > "sick" we thought he swallowed a bone? talk about one of the worst days > > ever! > > > > Has anyone else had this happen? > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > __ NOD32 6335 (20110729) Information __ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Frankie had greasy fur so I took him in for blood work. He had pancreatitis. It is under control with a food change. The unkempt fur is from not feeling well. They stop grooming themselves. Frankie also has the guttural cough. He has asthma. Frankie is not FeLV+. Good luck. It is very good that she is still eating. I would look for changes in her stool. Frankie's was fudgy on and off - I realize now it was probably fudgy when his pancreatitis was acting up. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 9:02 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] question I've had MeMe for three years, this month. Considering the condition she was in when we got her she has done very well. There are two things that concern me right now and I was wondering if anyone on the list had any ideas. Her coat is in terrible condition. It is hard to describe but it looks somewhat oily and really bedraggled. I guess it should not look healthy since she has Felv, but it is a dramatic change from her once fluffy coat. It has been this way for a few months. During the past week she has had a deep, almost guttural cough. I have only heard it a few times, possibly once a day, but I've heard it. She's just finished 10 days of Clavamox to help keep her stomatitis in check. She is eating very well but something is off and I am not sure what. Her posture is different. She has her paws tucked under her chest. We've started her on LTCI injections just before Christmas and I have a vet who is making house calls to inject her and he will be here today. He has not seen the change in her coat nor heard this deep cough. I'm not sure what he can determine without bloodwork. I was hoping that someone with a Felv cat might have seen similar changes and had an idea where to begin. Sorry this is all so vague. Jane ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks so much Laurie. The thing that is weird is that she is grooming herself but her coat looks dreadful. I'll make arrangements today for blood work although I was hoping to keep her out of the vets. I'll see if he can draw it here? thanks again Jane On Jan 14, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Laurieskatz wrote: Frankie had greasy fur so I took him in for blood work. He had pancreatitis. It is under control with a food change. The unkempt fur is from not feeling well. They stop grooming themselves. Frankie also has the guttural cough. He has asthma. Frankie is not FeLV+. Good luck. It is very good that she is still eating. I would look for changes in her stool. Frankie's was fudgy on and off - I realize now it was probably fudgy when his pancreatitis was acting up. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 9:02 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] question I've had MeMe for three years, this month. Considering the condition she was in when we got her she has done very well. There are two things that concern me right now and I was wondering if anyone on the list had any ideas. Her coat is in terrible condition. It is hard to describe but it looks somewhat oily and really bedraggled. I guess it should not look healthy since she has Felv, but it is a dramatic change from her once fluffy coat. It has been this way for a few months. During the past week she has had a deep, almost guttural cough. I have only heard it a few times, possibly once a day, but I've heard it. She's just finished 10 days of Clavamox to help keep her stomatitis in check. She is eating very well but something is off and I am not sure what. Her posture is different. She has her paws tucked under her chest. We've started her on LTCI injections just before Christmas and I have a vet who is making house calls to inject her and he will be here today. He has not seen the change in her coat nor heard this deep cough. I'm not sure what he can determine without bloodwork. I was hoping that someone with a Felv cat might have seen similar changes and had an idea where to begin. Sorry this is all so vague. Jane ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Aww Jane-I hope MeMe gets better quickly. I have both of mine on LTCI and they are both doing great with it. We began Rosie and Murphy the first of Sept with weekly injections and are now on 6 weeks between the injections. We just got their CBCs done last week and they both have HCTs at 39.5. We began the LCTI before they began to crash. It was right after we lost Rosie's 4 brothers to anemia before they reached a year old. Our vet, Dr. Krysta (Wozniewicz) at the Sacramento Cat Hospital has spoken to the Imulan veterinarians and says that they are very helpful. Perhaps your vet can speak with them about MeMe? Alice ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I personally do not do lysine AT ALL. It was only ever really recommended for herpes, there's recent evidence it doesn't even work for that, and it reduces something else they need (can't remember right now). http://www.petmd.com/blogs/thedailyvet/ken-tudor/2014/august/feline-herpes-virus-bad-news-popular-treatment-31971 What I totally recommend, and so does my holistic vet: Raw or partially cooked diet. Standard Process Immune System Support. I've seen standard process clear up some nasty stuff. Kelley and Coco. On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 7:15 PM, Marlene Snowman wrote: > Hi - I've been reading posts for a bit and decided I needed some advice > too. I have a FelV kitten who is 1 year old. I've had her since she was > just a little more than a month old. She tested positive twice and the vet > has yet been able to physically examine her or get a blood test since. She > isn't feral but her dislike of the vet and people is probably her strength > and fight to stay alive. I feed her really good kitten food and mixed with > astragalus and ligustrum twice daily and l-lysine. She's also been on > antibiotics for a nose and eye infection, not to mention the fleas, ear > mites, tongue ulcers and lacerations on her legs when I first rescued her > but she hasn't been on antibiotics for 4 months at least. (So antibiotics > for most of her life). She's gone from a pound to 7.2 lbs. So I've seen a > great improvement. The nose infection has never cleared, so boogers are a > constant, although more a yellow to clear than the original greenish mucous. > > I recognize that I need to get her in for a complete blood work. She eats > well, drinks a lot and other than the boogers, seems healthy. > > Would you suggest anything now other than the blood work for my girl Bear ? > > Thanks > Marlene > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Marlene, Without more info, I can suggest starting DMG, if it isn't contraindicated with any of the other supplements you are using. My Mako fought so hard at a recent Vet visit (and this was new) that they decided not to stress him. My Vet said she had been reading about using Gabapentin as sedation for aggressive/fractious cats, and when I googled, this came up; http://vetanesthesiaspecialists.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/SerenityNowSedationOptions_Feline_ABVP2015_HeidiLShafford.pdf We had to get blood, he was spiraling downhill. So, we tried. He got 50 mgs (1/2 a capsule) in a small amount of baby food, an hour before his appointment, so about 1.5 hrs before the attempted blood draw. They got blood, and that sent us to the Vet Specialists. He got it for that appointment, as well, but 3 hours ahead. All went well there, too. There didn't seem to be any real side effects, he was quiet, but not overly so. He did have anesthesia for aspirates, and the gabapentin was not an issue. Even better, it's easily available at human pharmacies in 100mg caps, and was on the $4 list. HTH, Margo and Mako -Original Message- >From: Marlene Snowman >Sent: Aug 28, 2016 8:15 PM >To: Felv >Subject: [Felvtalk] Question > >Hi - I've been reading posts for a bit and decided I needed some advice too. I >have a FelV kitten who is 1 year old. I've had her since she was just a little >more than a month old. She tested positive twice and the vet has yet been able >to physically examine her or get a blood test since. She isn't feral but her >dislike of the vet and people is probably her strength and fight to stay >alive. I feed her really good kitten food and mixed with astragalus and >ligustrum twice daily and l-lysine. She's also been on antibiotics for a nose >and eye infection, not to mention the fleas, ear mites, tongue ulcers and >lacerations on her legs when I first rescued her but she hasn't been on >antibiotics for 4 months at least. (So antibiotics for most of her life). >She's gone from a pound to 7.2 lbs. So I've seen a great improvement. The nose >infection has never cleared, so boogers are a constant, although more a yellow >to clear than the original greenish mucous. > >I recognize that I need to get her in for a complete blood work. She eats >well, drinks a lot and other than the boogers, seems healthy. > >Would you suggest anything now other than the blood work for my girl Bear ? > >Thanks >Marlene > >Sent from my iPhone >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My take on this disease is that FeL is transmitted by direct contact with blood or saliva from the infected cat. The FeLV is transmitted primarily through a bite. - Original Message - From: Theresa O'Rourke To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:14:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Felvtalk] Question I have three cats, and take care of other people’s cats. My daughter’s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after the cat goes back home? It’s because I take care of other friend’s cats also and want to know if they can catch The disease. Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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From what I read (scientific articles) the virus might stay in the room from 2 to 7 days. No conclusive data on this, but be careful. Even if a bite is surely the most common way to catch Felv Inviato da iPhone > Il giorno 22 nov 2017, alle ore 17:03, kresch...@mchsi.com ha scritto: > > My take on this disease is that FeL is transmitted by direct contact with > blood or saliva from the infected cat. The FeLV is transmitted primarily > through a bite. > - Original Message - > From: Theresa O'Rourke > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:14:29 -0500 (EST) > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question > > I have three cats, and take care of other people’s cats. > My daughter’s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate > room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after > the cat goes back home? It’s because I take care of other friend’s cats > also and want to know if they can catch > The disease. > > Sent from my iPad > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little boy (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in the house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read repeatedly that it really isn’t that infectious, especially with adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. Amani -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Theresa O'Rourke Sent: November-22-17 10:14 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Question I have three cats, and take care of other people’s cats. My daughter’s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after the cat goes back home? It’s because I take care of other friend’s cats also and want to know if they can catch The disease. Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thank you! Sent from my iPad > On Nov 22, 2017, at 11:03 AM, kresch...@mchsi.com wrote: > > My take on this disease is that FeL is transmitted by direct contact with > blood or saliva from the infected cat. The FeLV is transmitted primarily > through a bite. > - Original Message - > From: Theresa O'Rourke > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:14:29 -0500 (EST) > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question > > I have three cats, and take care of other people’s cats. > My daughter’s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate > room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after > the cat goes back home? It’s because I take care of other friend’s cats > also and want to know if they can catch > The disease. > > Sent from my iPad > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thank you! Sent from my iPad > On Nov 22, 2017, at 2:04 PM, Amani Oakley wrote: > > We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was infected, > despite the fact that our vet initially said that the infection would > decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) That was the case event > though we never isolated our FeLV little boy (it would have been fairly > pointless as he had already been in the house almost a year by then) and even > though he played with and groomed several of the other cats in the house. I > have since read repeatedly that it really isn’t that infectious, especially > with adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. > > Amani > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Theresa O'Rourke > Sent: November-22-17 10:14 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question > > I have three cats, and take care of other people’s cats. > My daughter’s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate > room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after > the cat goes back home? It’s because I take care of other friend’s cats > also and want to know if they can catch The disease. > > Sent from my iPad > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thank you! Sent from my iPad > On Nov 22, 2017, at 11:30 AM, marlene melpignano wrote: > > From what I read (scientific articles) the virus might stay in the room from > 2 to 7 days. No conclusive data on this, but be careful. Even if a bite is > surely the most common way to catch Felv > > Inviato da iPhone > >> Il giorno 22 nov 2017, alle ore 17:03, kresch...@mchsi.com ha scritto: >> >> My take on this disease is that FeL is transmitted by direct contact with >> blood or saliva from the infected cat. The FeLV is transmitted primarily >> through a bite. >> - Original Message - >> From: Theresa O'Rourke >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:14:29 -0500 (EST) >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question >> >> I have three cats, and take care of other people’s cats. >> My daughter’s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate >> room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after >> the cat goes back home? It’s because I take care of other friend’s cats >> also and want to know if they can catch >> The disease. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Actually, Feline Leukemia can also be transmitted through ‘friendly’ contact. Sharing food/water and grooming each other over a period of time. The virus only lives for a few hours in the environment, so really just cleaning out the food/water bowls and litter box after the cat leaves should suffice, and check to see if any wet spots on floor, etc. from water or urine and disinfect just to be on the safe side. You might want to have different shoes on too? and clothes, if you will be playing with and handling the cat a lot, in case drools on you…but that might be going overboard. Definitely wash hands after handling... Shelley > On Nov 22, 2017, at 11:03 AM, kresch...@mchsi.com wrote: > > My take on this disease is that FeL is transmitted by direct contact with > blood or saliva from the infected cat. The FeLV is transmitted primarily > through a bite. > - Original Message - > From: Theresa O'Rourke > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:14:29 -0500 (EST) > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question > > I have three cats, and take care of other people’s cats. > My daughter’s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate > room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after > the cat goes back home? It’s because I take care of other friend’s cats > also and want to know if they can catch > The disease. > > Sent from my iPad > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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As I said – I had a cat in with at least 8 other cats for 7 years with no transmission. They shared food and water bowls, beds, grooming, playing, biting, scratching - the whole nine yards. I don’t think it is particularly contagious with older cats. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Shelley Theye Sent: November-22-17 2:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question Actually, Feline Leukemia can also be transmitted through ‘friendly’ contact. Sharing food/water and grooming each other over a period of time. The virus only lives for a few hours in the environment, so really just cleaning out the food/water bowls and litter box after the cat leaves should suffice, and check to see if any wet spots on floor, etc. from water or urine and disinfect just to be on the safe side. You might want to have different shoes on too? and clothes, if you will be playing with and handling the cat a lot, in case drools on you…but that might be going overboard. Definitely wash hands after handling... Shelley On Nov 22, 2017, at 11:03 AM, kresch...@mchsi.com<mailto:kresch...@mchsi.com> wrote: My take on this disease is that FeL is transmitted by direct contact with blood or saliva from the infected cat. The FeLV is transmitted primarily through a bite. - Original Message - From: Theresa O'Rourke mailto:theresa.orou...@videotron.ca>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:14:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Felvtalk] Question I have three cats, and take care of other people’s cats. My daughter’s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after the cat goes back home? It’s because I take care of other friend’s cats also and want to know if they can catch The disease. Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Immune system plays a huge part-usually mature cats have a vibrant immune system, it’s the very young or older cats that would be more at risk, IMO. Also, the FeLV cat’s immune system is compromised, I believe, so contact with other cats would be something to consider for the health of the FeLV diagnosed cat. I have a cat diagnosed in 2010, that I strongly feel beat the virus-(answer to Prayer) he was older when I found him, the vet guessing him to be around 1 year old. We keep him in our guest room with a modified door so he “participates” in the hall/house activities and the room is ventilated. I will not take him to the vet unless he becomes ill-keeping the STRESS down so no testing! My practice is to wash my hands with alcohol and or soap for 20 seconds before & after I’m in his room. I keep his dishes sterile, no shared food or water or containers- but that’s about it. Now- this is my practice and everyone needs to follow his/her own inner voice on this matter- just sharing - not pushing an agenda. lol Gloria, furmommy to Buddy Luv -g 🇺🇸 Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 22, 2017, at 11:04 AM, Amani Oakley wrote: > > We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was infected, > despite the fact that our vet initially said that the infection would > decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) That was the case event > though we never isolated our FeLV little boy (it would have been fairly > pointless as he had already been in the house almost a year by then) and even > though he played with and groomed several of the other cats in the house. I > have since read repeatedly that it really isn’t that infectious, especially > with adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. > > Amani > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Theresa O'Rourke > Sent: November-22-17 10:14 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question > > I have three cats, and take care of other people’s cats. > My daughter’s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate > room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after > the cat goes back home? It’s because I take care of other friend’s cats > also and want to know if they can catch The disease. > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thank you, that is one of the best answers I’ve received. I won’t do this again, because I take care of other’s cats. However, for this time, the cat will be in his own room, he’ll have special toys I’ll throw out after, I’ll play with him, and brush him, poor thing. I’ll wash my hands and change clothes, it may be fanatic, but whatever.. However, after he leaves, I’ll wash everything, and give the room and floor a big cleaning. So all should be well, I promised my daughter, But I won’t do it again. Thank you for the great answer!!! Poor cat, it is so sad. Sent from my iPad > On Nov 22, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Shelley Theye wrote: > > Actually, Feline Leukemia can also be transmitted through ‘friendly’ contact. > Sharing food/water and grooming each other over a period of time. > The virus only lives for a few hours in the environment, so really just > cleaning out the food/water bowls and litter box after the cat leaves > should suffice, and check to see if any wet spots on floor, etc. from water > or urine and disinfect just to be on the safe side. > > You might want to have different shoes on too? and clothes, if you will be > playing with and handling the cat a lot, in case drools on you…but that might > be > going overboard. Definitely wash hands after handling... > > Shelley > > >> On Nov 22, 2017, at 11:03 AM, kresch...@mchsi.com wrote: >> >> My take on this disease is that FeL is transmitted by direct contact with >> blood or saliva from the infected cat. The FeLV is transmitted primarily >> through a bite. >> - Original Message - >> From: Theresa O'Rourke >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:14:29 -0500 (EST) >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question >> >> I have three cats, and take care of other people’s cats. >> My daughter’s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate >> room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after >> the cat goes back home? It’s because I take care of other friend’s cats >> also and want to know if they can catch >> The disease. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have had feral and dump cats for over 40 years, including 4 FELV cats. I have never had to wash anything when one of them passed. None of my FELV negative cats ever contracted the disease and all have died of old age including Annie who was FELV and over 10 years. They eat from the same bowls, sleep on the same beds. It has to do with the age of the cts. If your cts are under 1 year, they are more likely to contract the disease because their imune system is not as strong. Theresa O'Rourke wrote: > I have three cats, and take care of other people’s cats. My daughter’s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after the cat goes back home? It’s because I take care of other friend’s cats also and want to know if they can catch The disease. Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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This is my experience too. I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9 and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK. These cats lived with many other negative cats. These were adult cats... I understand FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully developed. Lorrie On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote: > We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was > infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the > infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) > That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little > boy (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in > the house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and > groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read > repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with > adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. > > Amani > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thank you Lorrie, So happy I joined this group. I’ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat’s, And clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after. However, I won’t do this again, Because I have other people’s cats in separate room and Won’t go through this again! ☺️☺️ I’ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure that is NOT NECESSARY. IF it was just my cat’s, I have three of my own, I wouldn’t be so neurotic. 😊 Sent from my iPad > On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie wrote: > > This is my experience too. I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9 > and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK. These cats lived > with many other negative cats. These were adult cats... I understand > FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully > developed. > > Lorrie > >> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote: >> >> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was >> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the >> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) >> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little >> boy (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in >> the house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and >> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read >> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with >> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. >> >> Amani >> > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in his carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed concerned about spreading it to the other patients. Ardy -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Theresa O'Rourke Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM To: felineres...@frontier.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question Thank you Lorrie, So happy I joined this group. I’ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat’s, And clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after. However, I won’t do this again, Because I have other people’s cats in separate room and Won’t go through this again! ☺️☺️ I’ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure that is NOT NECESSARY. IF it was just my cat’s, I have three of my own, I wouldn’t be so neurotic. 😊 Sent from my iPad > On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie wrote: > > This is my experience too. I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9 > and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK. These cats lived > with many other negative cats. These were adult cats... I understand > FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully > developed. > > Lorrie > >> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote: >> >> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was >> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the >> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) >> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little >> boy (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in >> the house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and >> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read >> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with >> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. >> >> Amani >> > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question
Since the vet is not worried, why should you? I thought about that when I took Annie in. Ardy Robertson wrote: > I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in his > carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed concerned > about spreading it to the other patients. Ardy -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Theresa O'Rourke Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM To: felineres...@frontier.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question Thank you Lorrie, So happy I joined this group. I’ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat’s, And clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after. However, I won’t do this again, Because I have other people’s cats in separate room and Won’t go through this again! ☺️☺️ I’ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure that is NOT NECESSARY. IF it was just my cat’s, I have three of my own, I wouldn’t be so neurotic. 😊 Sent from my iPad > On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie wrote: > > This is my experience too. I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9 > and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK. These cats lived > with many other negative cats. These were adult cats... I understand > FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully > developed. > > Lorrie > >> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote: >> >> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was >> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the >> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) >> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little >> boy (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in >> the house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and >> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read >> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with >> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. >> >> Amani >> > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thank you, For all your wonderful responses. Sent from my iPad > On Nov 29, 2017, at 12:16 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > > Since the vet is not worried, why should you? I thought about that when I > took Annie in. > > Ardy Robertson wrote: >> I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in his >> carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed >> concerned about spreading it to the other patients. > > Ardy > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Theresa O'Rourke > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM > To: felineres...@frontier.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > > Thank you Lorrie, > > So happy I joined this group. > I’ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat’s, And > clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after. > However, I won’t do this again, > Because I have other people’s cats in separate room and Won’t go through this > again! ☺️☺️ I’ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure that > is NOT NECESSARY. > IF it was just my cat’s, I have three of my own, I wouldn’t be so neurotic. 😊 > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie wrote: >> >> This is my experience too. I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9 >> and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK. These cats lived >> with many other negative cats. These were adult cats... I understand >> FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully >> developed. >> >> Lorrie >> >>> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote: >>> >>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was >>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the >>> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) >>> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little >>> boy (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in >>> the house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and >>> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read >>> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with >>> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. >>> >>> Amani >>> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Transmission of FeLV takes prolonged contact between cats; sharing food, water and litterboxes, and often mutual grooming. It is NOT transmitted other than by physical contact. Easiest way for me to differentiate between that and FIV transmission; "FeLV is a disease of friends, FIV is a disease of enemies" FelV spreads thru close friendly contact FIV spreads by deep bite wounds (or sexual contact, but all our animals are altered...right?) Margo -Original Message- >From: dlg...@windstream.net >Sent: Nov 29, 2017 12:16 PM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > >Since the vet is not worried, why should you? I thought about that when I >took Annie in. > > Ardy Robertson wrote: >> I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in his >> carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed >> concerned about spreading it to the other patients. > >Ardy > >-Original Message- >From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >Theresa O'Rourke >Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM >To: felineres...@frontier.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > >Thank you Lorrie, > >So happy I joined this group. >I’ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat’s, And >clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after. >However, I won’t do this again, >Because I have other people’s cats in separate room and Won’t go through this >again! ☺️☺️ I’ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure that is >NOT NECESSARY. >IF it was just my cat’s, I have three of my own, I wouldn’t be so neurotic. 😊 > > >Sent from my iPad > >> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie wrote: >> >> This is my experience too. I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9 >> and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK. These cats lived >> with many other negative cats. These were adult cats... I understand >> FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully >> developed. >> >> Lorrie >> >>> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote: >>> >>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was >>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the >>> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) >>> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little >>> boy (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in >>> the house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and >>> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read >>> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with >>> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. >>> >>> Amani >>> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question
Re: spay/neuter, First I give them 2 weeks for an owner to show up and then it is off to the vet for an exam and spay/neuter. I do not want to be a contributor to unwanted kittens/puppies plus they will live longer healthier lives. Margo wrote: > Transmission of FeLV takes prolonged contact between cats; sharing food, water and litterboxes, and often mutual grooming. It is NOT transmitted other than by physical contact. Easiest way for me to differentiate between that and FIV transmission; "FeLV is a disease of friends, FIV is a disease of enemies" FelV spreads thru close friendly contact FIV spreads by deep bite wounds (or sexual contact, but all our animals are altered...right?) Margo -Original Message- >From: dlg...@windstream.net >Sent: Nov 29, 2017 12:16 PM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > >Since the vet is not worried, why should you? I thought about that when I >took Annie in. > > Ardy Robertson wrote: >> I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in his >> carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed >> concerned about spreading it to the other patients. > >Ardy > >-Original Message- >From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >Theresa O'Rourke >Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM >To: felineres...@frontier.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > >Thank you Lorrie, > >So happy I joined this group. >I’ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat’s, And >clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after. >However, I won’t do this again, >Because I have other people’s cats in separate room and Won’t go through this >again! ☺️☺️ I’ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure that is >NOT NECESSARY. >IF it was just my cat’s, I have three of my own, I wouldn’t be so neurotic. 😊 > > >Sent from my iPad > >> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie wrote: >> >> This is my experience too. I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9 >> and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK. These cats lived >> with many other negative cats. These were adult cats... I understand >> FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully >> developed. >> >> Lorrie >> >>> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote: >>> >>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was >>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the >>> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) >>> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little >>> boy (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in >>> the house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and >>> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read >>> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with >>> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. >>> >>> Amani >>> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question
Thank you Sent from my iPad > On Nov 30, 2017, at 7:29 AM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > > Re: spay/neuter, First I give them 2 weeks for an owner to show up and then > it is off to the vet for an exam and spay/neuter. I do not want to be a > contributor to unwanted kittens/puppies plus they will live longer healthier > lives. > > Margo wrote: >> > Transmission of FeLV takes prolonged contact between cats; sharing food, > water and litterboxes, and often mutual grooming. It is NOT transmitted other > than by physical contact. > > Easiest way for me to differentiate between that and FIV transmission; > > "FeLV is a disease of friends, FIV is a disease of enemies" > > FelV spreads thru close friendly contact > > FIV spreads by deep bite wounds (or sexual contact, but all our animals are > altered...right?) > > Margo > > > > -Original Message- >> From: dlg...@windstream.net >> Sent: Nov 29, 2017 12:16 PM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question >> >> Since the vet is not worried, why should you? I thought about that when I >> took Annie in. >> >> Ardy Robertson wrote: >>> I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in his >>> carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed >>> concerned about spreading it to the other patients. >> >> Ardy >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >> Theresa O'Rourke >> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM >> To: felineres...@frontier.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question >> >> Thank you Lorrie, >> >> So happy I joined this group. >> I’ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat’s, And >> clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after. >> However, I won’t do this again, >> Because I have other people’s cats in separate room and Won’t go through >> this again! ☺️☺️ I’ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure >> that is NOT NECESSARY. >> IF it was just my cat’s, I have three of my own, I wouldn’t be so neurotic. 😊 >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie wrote: >>> >>> This is my experience too. I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9 >>> and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK. These cats lived >>> with many other negative cats. These were adult cats... I understand >>> FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully >>> developed. >>> >>> Lorrie >>> >>>> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote: >>>> >>>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was >>>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the >>>> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) >>>> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little >>>> boy (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in >>>> the house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and >>>> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read >>>> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with >>>> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. >>>> >>>> Amani >>>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question
Margo - I don't know much about FIV - is that fatal as often as FeLV? Thank you, Ardy -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:36 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question Transmission of FeLV takes prolonged contact between cats; sharing food, water and litterboxes, and often mutual grooming. It is NOT transmitted other than by physical contact. Easiest way for me to differentiate between that and FIV transmission; "FeLV is a disease of friends, FIV is a disease of enemies" FelV spreads thru close friendly contact FIV spreads by deep bite wounds (or sexual contact, but all our animals are altered...right?) Margo -Original Message- >From: dlg...@windstream.net >Sent: Nov 29, 2017 12:16 PM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > >Since the vet is not worried, why should you? I thought about that when I >took Annie in. > > Ardy Robertson wrote: >> I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in his >> carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed >> concerned about spreading it to the other patients. > >Ardy > >-Original Message- >From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >Of Theresa O'Rourke >Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM >To: felineres...@frontier.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > >Thank you Lorrie, > >So happy I joined this group. >I’ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat’s, And >clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after. >However, I won’t do this again, >Because I have other people’s cats in separate room and Won’t go through this >again! ☺️☺️ I’ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure that is >NOT NECESSARY. >IF it was just my cat’s, I have three of my own, I wouldn’t be so >neurotic. 😊 > > >Sent from my iPad > >> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie wrote: >> >> This is my experience too. I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9 >> and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK. These cats lived >> with many other negative cats. These were adult cats... I understand >> FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully >> developed. >> >> Lorrie >> >>> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote: >>> >>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was >>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the >>> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) >>> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little boy >>> (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in the >>> house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and >>> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read >>> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with >>> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. >>> >>> Amani >>> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I try to do that too -- although I am surrounded by Amish farms who do not neuter their animals, and I have so many strays coming here - mostly for food. I do neuter as many as I can after they have been here for a while. -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 6:29 AM To: Margo ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question Re: spay/neuter, First I give them 2 weeks for an owner to show up and then it is off to the vet for an exam and spay/neuter. I do not want to be a contributor to unwanted kittens/puppies plus they will live longer healthier lives. Margo wrote: > Transmission of FeLV takes prolonged contact between cats; sharing food, water and litterboxes, and often mutual grooming. It is NOT transmitted other than by physical contact. Easiest way for me to differentiate between that and FIV transmission; "FeLV is a disease of friends, FIV is a disease of enemies" FelV spreads thru close friendly contact FIV spreads by deep bite wounds (or sexual contact, but all our animals are altered...right?) Margo -Original Message- >From: dlg...@windstream.net >Sent: Nov 29, 2017 12:16 PM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > >Since the vet is not worried, why should you? I thought about that when I >took Annie in. > > Ardy Robertson wrote: >> I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in his >> carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed >> concerned about spreading it to the other patients. > >Ardy > >-Original Message- >From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >Of Theresa O'Rourke >Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM >To: felineres...@frontier.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > >Thank you Lorrie, > >So happy I joined this group. >I’ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat’s, And >clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after. >However, I won’t do this again, >Because I have other people’s cats in separate room and Won’t go through this >again! ☺️☺️ I’ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure that is >NOT NECESSARY. >IF it was just my cat’s, I have three of my own, I wouldn’t be so >neurotic. 😊 > > >Sent from my iPad > >> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie wrote: >> >> This is my experience too. I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9 >> and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK. These cats lived >> with many other negative cats. These were adult cats... I understand >> FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully >> developed. >> >> Lorrie >> >>> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote: >>> >>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was >>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the >>> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) >>> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little boy >>> (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in the >>> house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and >>> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read >>> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with >>> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. >>> >>> Amani >>> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question
Yes Ardy. FIV is also a death sentence, more often than not, for afflicted cats. And again, there is very little in the veterinary arsenal to combat it. Amani -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy Robertson Sent: December-03-17 12:00 PM To: 'Margo'; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question Margo - I don't know much about FIV - is that fatal as often as FeLV? Thank you, Ardy -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:36 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question Transmission of FeLV takes prolonged contact between cats; sharing food, water and litterboxes, and often mutual grooming. It is NOT transmitted other than by physical contact. Easiest way for me to differentiate between that and FIV transmission; "FeLV is a disease of friends, FIV is a disease of enemies" FelV spreads thru close friendly contact FIV spreads by deep bite wounds (or sexual contact, but all our animals are altered...right?) Margo -Original Message- >From: dlg...@windstream.net >Sent: Nov 29, 2017 12:16 PM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > >Since the vet is not worried, why should you? I thought about that when I >took Annie in. > > Ardy Robertson wrote: >> I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in his >> carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed >> concerned about spreading it to the other patients. > >Ardy > >-Original Message- >From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >Of Theresa O'Rourke >Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM >To: felineres...@frontier.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > >Thank you Lorrie, > >So happy I joined this group. >I’ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat’s, And >clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after. >However, I won’t do this again, >Because I have other people’s cats in separate room and Won’t go through this >again! ☺️☺️ I’ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure that is >NOT NECESSARY. >IF it was just my cat’s, I have three of my own, I wouldn’t be so >neurotic. 😊 > > >Sent from my iPad > >> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie wrote: >> >> This is my experience too. I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9 >> and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK. These cats lived >> with many other negative cats. These were adult cats... I understand >> FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully >> developed. >> >> Lorrie >> >>> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote: >>> >>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was >>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the >>> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) >>> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little boy >>> (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in the >>> house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and >>> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read >>> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with >>> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. >>> >>> Amani >>> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question
Are vet schools doing much to find a cure? Amani Oakley wrote: > Yes Ardy. FIV is also a death sentence, more often than not, for afflicted > cats. And again, there is very little in the veterinary arsenal to combat it. > > Amani > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy > Robertson > Sent: December-03-17 12:00 PM > To: 'Margo'; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > > Margo - I don't know much about FIV - is that fatal as often as FeLV? > > Thank you, > Ardy > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:36 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > > > Transmission of FeLV takes prolonged contact between cats; sharing food, > water and litterboxes, and often mutual grooming. It is NOT transmitted other > than by physical contact. > > Easiest way for me to differentiate between that and FIV transmission; > > "FeLV is a disease of friends, FIV is a disease of enemies" > > FelV spreads thru close friendly contact > > FIV spreads by deep bite wounds (or sexual contact, but all our animals are > altered...right?) > > Margo > > > > -Original Message- > >From: dlg...@windstream.net > >Sent: Nov 29, 2017 12:16 PM > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > > > >Since the vet is not worried, why should you? I thought about that when I > >took Annie in. > > > > Ardy Robertson wrote: > >> I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in > >> his carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed > >> concerned about spreading it to the other patients. > > > >Ardy > > > >-----Original Message- > >From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > >Of Theresa O'Rourke > >Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM > >To: felineres...@frontier.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > > > >Thank you Lorrie, > > > >So happy I joined this group. > >I’ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat’s, And > >clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after. > >However, I won’t do this again, > >Because I have other people’s cats in separate room and Won’t go through > >this again! ☺️☺️ I’ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure > >that is NOT NECESSARY. > >IF it was just my cat’s, I have three of my own, I wouldn’t be so > >neurotic. 😊 > > > > > >Sent from my iPad > > > >> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie wrote: > >> > >> This is my experience too. I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9 > >> and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK. These cats lived > >> with many other negative cats. These were adult cats... I understand > >> FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully > >> developed. > >> > >> Lorrie > >> > >>> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote: > >>> > >>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was > >>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the > >>> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) > >>> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little boy > >>> (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in the > >>> house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and > >>> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read > >>> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with > >>> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. > >>> > >>> Amani > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or > >> g > > > > > >___ > >Felvtalk mailing list > >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > >___ > >Felvtalk mailing list &
Re: [Felvtalk] QUESTION
Hi Nancy She could definitely be a carrier. I wouldn’t be concerned as long as her blood work is okay. Keep a close eye on her gums, inside of the ears, and pads to watch for any paleness which might signify anemia. I don’t think she NEEDS any help right now, but you might consider trying her on a long course of Doxycycline to see if maybe you can eliminate the virus. I have no idea if it would work, but in the three-pronged treatment I recommend, I believe that Doxycycline is blocking viral replication of the FeLV virus. If your vet is willing, you could try the Doxycycline – I would think at least 6 weeks – and then wait a while and test her again for FeLV. If you give it a shot and it works, let the rest of us know. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gidge...@aol.com Sent: February-23-19 8:03 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] QUESTION Hello, My girl is 4 years old and has had FeLV for 3 years. We took in a kitten 3 years ago who tested negative for it. The two were together after that and 6 months later, I found out the negative was false. The kitten was actually a positive. When I tested my other girl, she also had it. Kitten has since passed after 3 years of living with it, but my other girl is still going strong. I had her retested yesterday because you would just never know she has it. It was still positive. Could she be a carrier? The vet was very pleased with the blood work as it was perfect. He thought she may be a carrier. Wanted to have your thoughts. Although she is doing so well, should I be giving her something to help her? Maybe to keep the immune system strong? Thank you. Nancy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thank you for replying. I will continue to keep a very close watch on her.
Nancy
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Hi Nancy She could definitely be a carrier. I wouldn’t be concerned as long
as her blood work is okay. Keep a close eye on her gums, inside of the ears,
and pads to watch for any paleness which might signify anemia. I don’t think
she NEEDS any help right now, but you might consider trying her on a long
course of Doxycycline to see if maybe you can eliminate the virus. I have no
idea if it would work, but in the three-pronged treatment I recommend, I
believe that Doxycycline is blocking viral replication of the FeLV virus. If
your vet is willing, you could try the Doxycycline – I would think at least 6
weeks – and then wait a while and test her again for FeLV. If you give it a
shot and it works, let the rest of us know. Amani From: Felvtalk
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]On Behalf Of gidge...@aol.com
Sent: February-23-19 8:03 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] QUESTION Hello, My girl is 4 years old and has had FeLV
for 3 years. We took in a kitten 3 years ago who tested negative for it. The
two were together after that and 6 months later, I found out the negative was
false. The kitten was actually a positive. When I tested my other girl, she
also had it. Kitten has since passed after 3 years of living with it, but my
other girl is still going strong. I had her retested yesterday because you
would just never know she has it. It was still positive. Could she be a
carrier? The vet was very pleased with the blood work as it was perfect. He
thought she may be a carrier. Wanted to have your thoughts. Although she is
doing so well, should I be giving her something to help her? Maybe to keep the
immune system strong? Thank you. Nancy
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[Felvtalk] Question on Rescue
I volunteer at an always full, always crowded municipal animal shelter in Chalmette, Louisiana (just east of New Orleans). They just got an owner surrender of a 7 year old Exotic and I was trying to find a rescue for him. He's been bounced around since his elderly owner died and is now hissing, snarling-all those things that pampered kitties do when they are very unhappy and very scared. We found a rescue but have never worked with them and I was wondering if anyone on the group knows them. I hate to send animals out somewhere without being sure as to what its like where they're going! The rescue is the South Texas Persian Rescue San Antonio, Tx And the kitty is Mugsy: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/ I know folks on this board are from everywhere and I'm hoping there's someone who may have had some experience with them. You can e-mail or call me-my info is below in my signature. Thank you. Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 ti...@mindspring.com Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/sets/72157603921945483/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] question on antibiotic
Hi: Spanky has not been doing well this week. He's very low energy more than normal, weak and won't get out of bed unless I pick him up and make him get up and walk around. He's been eating fair with an appetite stimulant and using his litter box - again when I get him up and take him near it. His gums and tongue seem okay for him - not white and he's on pet-tinic 2x per day. When I took him to the dermatologist, she prescribed clavamox for him just in case he had an infection but then my regular vet had me hold off since we did the neoplasene salve on him. Now I am wondering if I should try giving him the antibiotic anyway "just in case". I gave him fluids for the past 2 nights also - 50 ml and last night almost 100ml because he's not drinking very much. In any case, I'm just looking for advice about clavamox. I don't want to make him feel sicker but I'm not sure how he'd handle it - if it makes cats nauseous. also, we did the neoplasene salve and it seemed to shrink the growth in his nose and his other 2 lesions. The vet recommended doing the salve again but at this point, I'm not sure we will. Thanks so much, Stacy and Spanky stacy_zac...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] question about grooming
I adopted Spicey about a yr ago knowing he has FL. Over the year he has not shown any symptoms, my vet said to not take him in as to not stress him. He is almost 6 & has had FL all his life. I feel very blessed that he hasn't any symptoms. But my problem is his grooming. He is main coon mix with lots of fur. He grooms himself, but not enough. He has many mats & his nails need to be cut. He doesn't like to be picked up & I am afraid to cut his nails ot trim his mats. Any suggestions/ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks from Joyce & Spicey ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Question about Interferon
Many of you have said that you are using interferon to treat your FeLV cats and I'm trying to decide if we should start Eden on this as well. Nobody has mentioned any side effects from the treatment but I work with cancer patients and I've seen many patients treated with interferon and it is not well tolerated at all. In fact it is a treatment that is plagued with many serious side effects and in many cases the side effects are much worse then the symptoms of the patient's actual disease. So I'm wondering if the cats being treated are experiencing side effects or if the dose is so low in cats that the side effects aren't a problem. Thanks, Brenda ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] question about excessive salivation
I was wondering if any of you might know why Charlotte was drooling copiously when she passed away on Tuesday. I know it doesn't matter now since she's gone, but I'm just curious. She hadn't been doing this before at all, but while I held her on my lap for those last 4 hours, she was salivating excessively. My pants leg was soaked with it. Mostly it was clear, but sometimes it was a little foamy looking. Any suggestions? Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on Rescue
Hi, Chris -- I have no useful input here, but just wanted to say that Mugsy is a very pretty smooshy-faced boy. Vibes that he finds a new forever home where he can let his guard down and be happy. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on Rescue I volunteer at an always full, always crowded municipal animal shelter in Chalmette, Louisiana (just east of New Orleans). They just got an owner surrender of a 7 year old Exotic and I was trying to find a rescue for him. He's been bounced around since his elderly owner died and is now hissing, snarling-all those things that pampered kitties do when they are very unhappy and very scared. We found a rescue but have never worked with them and I was wondering if anyone on the group knows them. I hate to send animals out somewhere without being sure as to what its like where they're going! The rescue is the South Texas Persian Rescue San Antonio, Tx And the kitty is Mugsy: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/ I know folks on this board are from everywhere and I'm hoping there's someone who may have had some experience with them. You can e-mail or call me-my info is below in my signature. Thank you. Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 ti...@mindspring.com Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/sets/72157603921945483/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on Rescue
i don't know that rescue; there is a persian rescue in DFW, however. you can also post him on the persian rescue list as well as at www.purebredcats.org, on their message boards. i can ask around for other options. MC -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on Rescue
wait, wait, i just approved his photos to the persian list today! just didn't connect him with you, chris -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on Rescue
It's a very small world! LOL Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 ti...@mindspring.com Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/sets/72157603921945483/ -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on Rescue wait, wait, i just approved his photos to the persian list today! just didn't connect him with you, chris -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on Rescue
But I wouldn't want to paint it. (Stole that from Steven Wright...sorry!) Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on Rescue It's a very small world! LOL Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 ti...@mindspring.com Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/sets/72157603921945483/ -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on Rescue wait, wait, i just approved his photos to the persian list today! just didn't connect him with you, chris -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Question about A/D
Just a quick question for future referrence, since all of my babies are eating fine at the moment. I'm considering just keeping some of the A/D on hand since my cats don't always get sick when the vet's open. How long is it generally good for? In addition to Tofu being positive, I've been cautioned to really keep a close eye on our 20-lbs- er. (He is fat, but he and his littermates all have huge frames as well, so 20lbs, while not being good, isn't quite as bad as it seems. He is losing weight slowly since I've taken most of the treats away from Mom!) -Emily Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] question on antibiotic
Clavamox can be kind of hard on the digestive track sometime. I know nothing about neoplasene salve. I dint know, i might try some other abx, if it were me, like amoxicillin or azithromycin . Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Stacy Zacher wrote: > Hi: > > Spanky has not been doing well this week. He's very low energy more than > normal, weak and won't get out of bed unless I pick him up and make him get > up and walk around. He's been eating fair with an appetite stimulant and > using his litter box - again when I get him up and take him near it. His > gums and tongue seem okay for him - not white and he's on pet-tinic 2x per > day. > > When I took him to the dermatologist, she prescribed clavamox for him just in > case he had an infection but then my regular vet had me hold off since we did > the neoplasene salve on him. Now I am wondering if I should try giving him > the antibiotic anyway "just in case". I gave him fluids for the past 2 > nights also - 50 ml and last night almost 100ml because he's not drinking > very much. > > In any case, I'm just looking for advice about clavamox. I don't want to > make him feel sicker but I'm not sure how he'd handle it - if it makes cats > nauseous. > > also, we did the neoplasene salve and it seemed to shrink the growth in his > nose and > his other 2 lesions. The vet recommended doing the salve again but at > this point, I'm not sure we will. > > > Thanks so much, > Stacy and Spanky > > > > stacy_zac...@yahoo.com > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] question on antibiotic
Hi Stacy, It seems to me you care very much about Spanky and want to do the very best for him just like I would. It also sounds like you don't trust your vets so much. I would suggest a holistic vet. I am very leery of all the conventional meds as well and tend to think they may do more harm than good, and they sometimes tend to mask the symptoms and not really cure the underlying problem. I really don't like to give antibiotics, but if I absolutely had to, I would also give them a probiotic as well to keep the good bacteria in check. Most vets carry Fortiflora that you can add to their food. I have been lucky with my felv+ kitty so far (and my other 4 neg's who range in age from 3-13), but I attribute their awesome health to their homemade raw diet which they have been on for over 2 years now...it really has changed their life and mine...I wonder what you are feeding. To me, diet is extremely important. I'm sure this advice doesn't help much right now, and I understand being hesitant to give them something that may cause yet another issue. I wish you and Spanky well. Tracey On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Stacy Zacher wrote: > Hi: > > Spanky has not been doing well this week. He's very low energy more than > normal, weak and won't get out of bed unless I pick him up and make him get > up and walk around. He's been eating fair with an appetite stimulant and > using his litter box - again when I get him up and take him near it. His > gums and tongue seem okay for him - not white and he's on pet-tinic 2x per > day. > > When I took him to the dermatologist, she prescribed clavamox for him just > in case he had an infection but then my regular vet had me hold off since we > did the neoplasene salve on him. Now I am wondering if I should try giving > him the antibiotic anyway "just in case". I gave him fluids for the past 2 > nights also - 50 ml and last night almost 100ml because he's not drinking > very much. > > In any case, I'm just looking for advice about clavamox. I don't want to > make him feel sicker but I'm not sure how he'd handle it - if it makes cats > nauseous. > > also, we did the neoplasene salve and it seemed to shrink the growth in his > nose and > his other 2 lesions. The vet recommended doing the salve again but at > this point, I'm not sure we will. > > > Thanks so much, > Stacy and Spanky > > > > stacy_zac...@yahoo.com > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] question on antibiotic
Hi Tracey: Thanks for your reply. I actually do trust my main vet, he is very open minded and looks at all my research and does research as well, and he actually does acupuncture and chinese herbs. He referred me to the specialist/derm once so she could have a look at his lesions and see if she thought they were cancerous. she suggested biopsy/surgery which he would never be able to tolerate so we opted to try the neoplasene. It did shrink 3 of them after just one application but then I elected to not salve again right away in his present condition. He's not any better today and just looking really terrible. I'm going to see if I can try to get him into the vet. I am not sure if he has an infection, is more anemic or if he's just tired of fighting. In any case, it is very frustrating and disheartening and you just feel helpless and hopeless seeing your furbaby like this. As far as him eating, he used to eat wellness grain free canned and dry. Now he eats whatever I can get him to eat which isn't much at all. I've been syringing food into him this past week and giving fluids. Even with the appetite stimulant, he's not very interested in food. I understand the importance of a high quality diet/nutrition but if he won't eat, I have to just try to get him to eat something. Purrs, Stacy and Spanky stacy_zac...@yahoo.com --- On Sun, 11/21/10, Tracey Shrout wrote: From: Tracey Shrout Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] question on antibiotic To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 6:24 AM Hi Stacy, It seems to me you care very much about Spanky and want to do the very best for him just like I would. It also sounds like you don't trust your vets so much. I would suggest a holistic vet. I am very leery of all the conventional meds as well and tend to think they may do more harm than good, and they sometimes tend to mask the symptoms and not really cure the underlying problem. I really don't like to give antibiotics, but if I absolutely had to, I would also give them a probiotic as well to keep the good bacteria in check. Most vets carry Fortiflora that you can add to their food. I have been lucky with my felv+ kitty so far (and my other 4 neg's who range in age from 3-13), but I attribute their awesome health to their homemade raw diet which they have been on for over 2 years now...it really has changed their life and mine...I wonder what you are feeding. To me, diet is extremely important. I'm sure this advice doesn't help much right now, and I understand being hesitant to give them something that may cause yet another issue. I wish you and Spanky well. Tracey On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Stacy Zacher wrote: > Hi: > > Spanky has not been doing well this week. He's very low energy more than > normal, weak and won't get out of bed unless I pick him up and make him get > up and walk around. He's been eating fair with an appetite stimulant and > using his litter box - again when I get him up and take him near it. His > gums and tongue seem okay for him - not white and he's on pet-tinic 2x per > day. > > When I took him to the dermatologist, she prescribed clavamox for him just > in case he had an infection but then my regular vet had me hold off since we > did the neoplasene salve on him. Now I am wondering if I should try giving > him the antibiotic anyway "just in case". I gave him fluids for the past 2 > nights also - 50 ml and last night almost 100ml because he's not drinking > very much. > > In any case, I'm just looking for advice about clavamox. I don't want to > make him feel sicker but I'm not sure how he'd handle it - if it makes cats > nauseous. > > also, we did the neoplasene salve and it seemed to shrink the growth in his > nose and > his other 2 lesions. The vet recommended doing the salve again but at > this point, I'm not sure we will. > > > Thanks so much, > Stacy and Spanky > > > > stacy_zac...@yahoo.com > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] question on antibiotic
The probiotics might be a good idea - some good bacteria in the tummy/ gut, and certainly providing nutrients. Might try syringing some chicken/turkey baby food too. Sometimes just getting something into the belly helps. Good luck - sending good vibes for Spanky. Gloria On Nov 21, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Stacy Zacher wrote: Hi Tracey: Thanks for your reply. I actually do trust my main vet, he is very open minded and looks at all my research and does research as well, and he actually does acupuncture and chinese herbs. He referred me to the specialist/derm once so she could have a look at his lesions and see if she thought they were cancerous. she suggested biopsy/ surgery which he would never be able to tolerate so we opted to try the neoplasene. It did shrink 3 of them after just one application but then I elected to not salve again right away in his present condition. He's not any better today and just looking really terrible. I'm going to see if I can try to get him into the vet. I am not sure if he has an infection, is more anemic or if he's just tired of fighting. In any case, it is very frustrating and disheartening and you just feel helpless and hopeless seeing your furbaby like this. As far as him eating, he used to eat wellness grain free canned and dry. Now he eats whatever I can get him to eat which isn't much at all. I've been syringing food into him this past week and giving fluids. Even with the appetite stimulant, he's not very interested in food. I understand the importance of a high quality diet/ nutrition but if he won't eat, I have to just try to get him to eat something. Purrs, Stacy and Spanky stacy_zac...@yahoo.com --- On Sun, 11/21/10, Tracey Shrout wrote: From: Tracey Shrout Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] question on antibiotic To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 6:24 AM Hi Stacy, It seems to me you care very much about Spanky and want to do the very best for him just like I would. It also sounds like you don't trust your vets so much. I would suggest a holistic vet. I am very leery of all the conventional meds as well and tend to think they may do more harm than good, and they sometimes tend to mask the symptoms and not really cure the underlying problem. I really don't like to give antibiotics, but if I absolutely had to, I would also give them a probiotic as well to keep the good bacteria in check. Most vets carry Fortiflora that you can add to their food. I have been lucky with my felv+ kitty so far (and my other 4 neg's who range in age from 3-13), but I attribute their awesome health to their homemade raw diet which they have been on for over 2 years now...it really has changed their life and mine...I wonder what you are feeding. To me, diet is extremely important. I'm sure this advice doesn't help much right now, and I understand being hesitant to give them something that may cause yet another issue. I wish you and Spanky well. Tracey On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Stacy Zacher wrote: Hi: Spanky has not been doing well this week. He's very low energy more than normal, weak and won't get out of bed unless I pick him up and make him get up and walk around. He's been eating fair with an appetite stimulant and using his litter box - again when I get him up and take him near it. His gums and tongue seem okay for him - not white and he's on pet-tinic 2x per day. When I took him to the dermatologist, she prescribed clavamox for him just in case he had an infection but then my regular vet had me hold off since we did the neoplasene salve on him. Now I am wondering if I should try giving him the antibiotic anyway "just in case". I gave him fluids for the past 2 nights also - 50 ml and last night almost 100ml because he's not drinking very much. In any case, I'm just looking for advice about clavamox. I don't want to make him feel sicker but I'm not sure how he'd handle it - if it makes cats nauseous. also, we did the neoplasene salve and it seemed to shrink the growth in his nose and his other 2 lesions. The vet recommended doing the salve again but at this point, I'm not sure we will. Thanks so much, Stacy and Spanky stacy_zac...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] question on antibiotic
Clavamox put Bob into full diaherrea. he was miserable and we had a few messes when he could not make it to the box. this was from emergency vet on a Sunday night. got another that was easier on him, but he passed at the end of that week. thought about an autopsy, but decided not to cause him any more abuse. buried him in my 3rd plot in a flower garden. i have 4 gardens with buriel plots in them. only plant shallow rooted things there. then Homie came down with crystals and urinary tract infection so we gave her a shot that lasts 2 weks and does not cause so much discomfort. also gave her herbal pill from Only Natural Pet Store. at the end of 30 days on the pill she is free of crystals and infection. lost the envelope they came in, but developed by a Chinese dr and has as first ingredient dendrobium. i was desperate for something to get rid of the crystals. she was retaining urine and would not eat the special foods by Hill's and Purina for this problem. she got lethargic, wouldn't eat or drink much and was trying to go all over the house. after a couple of days on this pill, she started on recovery and by the end of the first week was almost back to normal which is a pain in the ---. she delights in tormenting Annie and Nitnoy by sitting there and staring at them. now i am laying in a supply of Feliway. I hesitated to get this, is expensive and only had reviews by people who had tried it to go on, but as bad as she was, i figured i had nothing to loose. Gloria Lane wrote: > Clavamox can be kind of hard on the digestive track sometime. I know nothing > about neoplasene salve. I dint know, i might try some other abx, if it were > me, like amoxicillin or azithromycin . > > Gloria > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 20, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Stacy Zacher wrote: > > > Hi: > > > > Spanky has not been doing well this week. He's very low energy more than > > normal, weak and won't get out of bed unless I pick him up and make him get > > up and walk around. He's been eating fair with an appetite stimulant and > > using his litter box - again when I get him up and take him near it. His > > gums and tongue seem okay for him - not white and he's on pet-tinic 2x per > > day. > > > > When I took him to the dermatologist, she prescribed clavamox for him just > > in case he had an infection but then my regular vet had me hold off since > > we did the neoplasene salve on him. Now I am wondering if I should try > > giving him the antibiotic anyway "just in case". I gave him fluids for the > > past 2 nights also - 50 ml and last night almost 100ml because he's not > > drinking very much. > > > > In any case, I'm just looking for advice about clavamox. I don't want to > > make him feel sicker but I'm not sure how he'd handle it - if it makes cats > > nauseous. > > > > also, we did the neoplasene salve and it seemed to shrink the growth in his > > nose and > > his other 2 lesions. The vet recommended doing the salve again but at > > this point, I'm not sure we will. > > > > > > Thanks so much, > > Stacy and Spanky > > > > > > > > stacy_zac...@yahoo.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] question on antibiotic
That's been my experience often w Clavamox. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2010, at 3:56 PM, wrote: > Clavamox put Bob into full diaherrea. he was miserable and we had a few > messes when he could not make it to the box. this was from emergency vet on > a Sunday night. got another that was easier on him, but he passed at the end > of that week. thought about an autopsy, but decided not to cause him any > more abuse. buried him in my 3rd plot in a flower garden. i have 4 gardens > with buriel plots in them. only plant shallow rooted things there. then > Homie came down with crystals and urinary tract infection so we gave her a > shot that lasts 2 weks and does not cause so much discomfort. also gave her > herbal pill from Only Natural Pet Store. at the end of 30 days on the pill > she is free of crystals and infection. lost the envelope they came in, but > developed by a Chinese dr and has as first ingredient dendrobium. i was > desperate for something to get rid of the crystals. she was retaining urine > and would not eat the special foods by Hill's and Purina for this problem. > she got lethargic, wouldn't eat or drink much and was trying to go all over > the house. after a couple of days on this pill, she started on recovery and > by the end of the first week was almost back to normal which is a pain in the > ---. > she delights in tormenting Annie and Nitnoy by sitting there and staring at > them. now i am laying in a supply of Feliway. I hesitated to get this, is > expensive and only had reviews by people who had tried it to go on, but as > bad as she was, i figured i had nothing to loose. > Gloria Lane wrote: >> Clavamox can be kind of hard on the digestive track sometime. I know >> nothing about neoplasene salve. I dint know, i might try some other abx, if >> it were me, like amoxicillin or azithromycin . >> >> Gloria >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 20, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Stacy Zacher wrote: >> >>> Hi: >>> >>> Spanky has not been doing well this week. He's very low energy more than >>> normal, weak and won't get out of bed unless I pick him up and make him get >>> up and walk around. He's been eating fair with an appetite stimulant and >>> using his litter box - again when I get him up and take him near it. His >>> gums and tongue seem okay for him - not white and he's on pet-tinic 2x per >>> day. >>> >>> When I took him to the dermatologist, she prescribed clavamox for him just >>> in case he had an infection but then my regular vet had me hold off since >>> we did the neoplasene salve on him. Now I am wondering if I should try >>> giving him the antibiotic anyway "just in case". I gave him fluids for the >>> past 2 nights also - 50 ml and last night almost 100ml because he's not >>> drinking very much. >>> >>> In any case, I'm just looking for advice about clavamox. I don't want to >>> make him feel sicker but I'm not sure how he'd handle it - if it makes cats >>> nauseous. >>> >>> also, we did the neoplasene salve and it seemed to shrink the growth in his >>> nose and >>> his other 2 lesions. The vet recommended doing the salve again but at >>> this point, I'm not sure we will. >>> >>> >>> Thanks so much, >>> Stacy and Spanky >>> >>> >>> >>> stacy_zac...@yahoo.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] question on antibiotic
I always give my cats a pro-biotic with clavamox such as Stoneyfield Farms plain yogurt. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Sun, 11/21/10, Gloria Lane wrote: From: Gloria Lane Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] question on antibiotic To: "Feline Leukemia" Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 6:30 PM That's been my experience often w Clavamox. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2010, at 3:56 PM, wrote: > Clavamox put Bob into full diaherrea. he was miserable and we had a few > messes when he could not make it to the box. this was from emergency vet on > a Sunday night. got another that was easier on him, but he passed at the end > of that week. thought about an autopsy, but decided not to cause him any > more abuse. buried him in my 3rd plot in a flower garden. i have 4 gardens > with buriel plots in them. only plant shallow rooted things there. then > Homie came down with crystals and urinary tract infection so we gave her a > shot that lasts 2 weks and does not cause so much discomfort. also gave her > herbal pill from Only Natural Pet Store. at the end of 30 days on the pill > she is free of crystals and infection. lost the envelope they came in, but > developed by a Chinese dr and has as first ingredient dendrobium. i was > desperate for something to get rid of the crystals. she was retaining urine > and would not eat the special foods by Hill's and Purina for this problem. she got lethargic, wouldn't eat or drink much and was trying to go all over the house. after a couple of days on this pill, she started on recovery and by the end of the first week was almost back to normal which is a pain in the ---. > she delights in tormenting Annie and Nitnoy by sitting there and staring at > them. now i am laying in a supply of Feliway. I hesitated to get this, is > expensive and only had reviews by people who had tried it to go on, but as > bad as she was, i figured i had nothing to loose. > Gloria Lane wrote: >> Clavamox can be kind of hard on the digestive track sometime. I know >> nothing about neoplasene salve. I dint know, i might try some other abx, if >> it were me, like amoxicillin or azithromycin . >> >> Gloria >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 20, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Stacy Zacher wrote: >> >>> Hi: >>> >>> Spanky has not been doing well this week. He's very low energy more than >>> normal, weak and won't get out of bed unless I pick him up and make him get >>> up and walk around. He's been eating fair with an appetite stimulant and >>> using his litter box - again when I get him up and take him near it. His >>> gums and tongue seem okay for him - not white and he's on pet-tinic 2x per >>> day. >>> >>> When I took him to the dermatologist, she prescribed clavamox for him just >>> in case he had an infection but then my regular vet had me hold off since >>> we did the neoplasene salve on him. Now I am wondering if I should try >>> giving him the antibiotic anyway "just in case". I gave him fluids for the >>> past 2 nights also - 50 ml and last night almost 100ml because he's not >>> drinking very much. >>> >>> In any case, I'm just looking for advice about clavamox. I don't want to >>> make him feel sicker but I'm not sure how he'd handle it - if it makes cats >>> nauseous. >>> >>> also, we did the neoplasene salve and it seemed to shrink the growth in his >>> nose and >>> his other 2 lesions. The vet recommended doing the salve again but at >>> this point, I'm not sure we will. >>> >>> >>> Thanks so much, >>> Stacy and Spanky >>> >>> >>> >>> stacy_zac...@yahoo.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] question on antibiotic
I luv Stonyfield Farms products :) Gloria On Nov 22, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Beth wrote: I always give my cats a pro-biotic with clavamox such as Stoneyfield Farms plain yogurt. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Sun, 11/21/10, Gloria Lane wrote: From: Gloria Lane Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] question on antibiotic To: "Feline Leukemia" Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 6:30 PM That's been my experience often w Clavamox. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2010, at 3:56 PM, wrote: Clavamox put Bob into full diaherrea. he was miserable and we had a few messes when he could not make it to the box. this was from emergency vet on a Sunday night. got another that was easier on him, but he passed at the end of that week. thought about an autopsy, but decided not to cause him any more abuse. buried him in my 3rd plot in a flower garden. i have 4 gardens with buriel plots in them. only plant shallow rooted things there. then Homie came down with crystals and urinary tract infection so we gave her a shot that lasts 2 weks and does not cause so much discomfort. also gave her herbal pill from Only Natural Pet Store. at the end of 30 days on the pill she is free of crystals and infection. lost the envelope they came in, but developed by a Chinese dr and has as first ingredient dendrobium. i was desperate for something to get rid of the crystals. she was retaining urine and would not eat the special foods by Hill's and Purina for this problem. she got lethargic, wouldn't eat or drink much and was trying to go all over the house. after a couple of days on this pill, she started on recovery and by the end of the first week was almost back to normal which is a pain in the ---. she delights in tormenting Annie and Nitnoy by sitting there and staring at them. now i am laying in a supply of Feliway. I hesitated to get this, is expensive and only had reviews by people who had tried it to go on, but as bad as she was, i figured i had nothing to loose. Gloria Lane wrote: Clavamox can be kind of hard on the digestive track sometime. I know nothing about neoplasene salve. I dint know, i might try some other abx, if it were me, like amoxicillin or azithromycin . Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Stacy Zacher wrote: Hi: Spanky has not been doing well this week. He's very low energy more than normal, weak and won't get out of bed unless I pick him up and make him get up and walk around. He's been eating fair with an appetite stimulant and using his litter box - again when I get him up and take him near it. His gums and tongue seem okay for him - not white and he's on pet-tinic 2x per day. When I took him to the dermatologist, she prescribed clavamox for him just in case he had an infection but then my regular vet had me hold off since we did the neoplasene salve on him. Now I am wondering if I should try giving him the antibiotic anyway "just in case". I gave him fluids for the past 2 nights also - 50 ml and last night almost 100ml because he's not drinking very much. In any case, I'm just looking for advice about clavamox. I don't want to make him feel sicker but I'm not sure how he'd handle it - if it makes cats nauseous. also, we did the neoplasene salve and it seemed to shrink the growth in his nose and his other 2 lesions. The vet recommended doing the salve again but at this point, I'm not sure we will. Thanks so much, Stacy and Spanky stacy_zac...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] question about grooming
Purchase the Furminator - works GREAT :) > From: del...@q.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:11:12 + > Subject: [Felvtalk] question about grooming > > > I adopted Spicey about a yr ago knowing he has FL. Over the year he has not > shown any symptoms, my vet said to not take him in as to not stress him. He > is almost 6 & has had FL all his life. I feel very blessed that he hasn't any > symptoms. But my problem is his grooming. He is main coon mix with lots of > fur. He grooms himself, but not enough. He has many mats & his nails need to > be cut. He doesn't like to be picked up & I am afraid to cut his nails ot > trim his mats. Any suggestions/ideas would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks from Joyce & Spicey > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about Interferon
Hi Brenda, At this time my kitten is tolerating the interferon. It is my understanding from my vet that some cats do have side effects with the interferon. When we put Kelsea on the interferon it was the right thing to do, she was very sick kitten. I have to say I am very glad I did. I'm not sure if I mention in pass emails that Kelsea is on the interferon for 7 days then off for the next 7 days, she only get 1 cc at night. Let me know what you decide to do. My thoughts are with you and Eden. Sharon On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 9:59 AM, wrote: > > Many of you have said that you are using interferon to treat your FeLV cats > and I'm trying to decide if we should start Eden on this as well. Nobody has > mentioned any side effects from the treatment but I work with cancer > patients and I've seen many patients treated with interferon and it is not > well tolerated at all. In fact it is a treatment that is plagued with many > serious side effects and in many cases the side effects are much worse then > the symptoms of the patient's actual disease. So I'm wondering if the cats > being treated are experiencing side effects or if the dose is so low in cats > that the side effects aren't a problem. > > Thanks, > Brenda > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about Interferon
I've never had a cat that had a problem with interferon - but I'm assuming you mean interferon alpha, not omega (which I've never used). I used daily interferon (1cc) Another protocol is 3 days on, 3 off, as well as the one you used, 7 days on and 7 off. Tally used to be on this list, and I used her web site for interferon info - http://www.tallyville.com/interferon.html Gloria On Dec 10, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Sharon Fazio wrote: Hi Brenda, At this time my kitten is tolerating the interferon. It is my understanding from my vet that some cats do have side effects with the interferon. When we put Kelsea on the interferon it was the right thing to do, she was very sick kitten. I have to say I am very glad I did. I'm not sure if I mention in pass emails that Kelsea is on the interferon for 7 days then off for the next 7 days, she only get 1 cc at night. Let me know what you decide to do. My thoughts are with you and Eden. Sharon On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 9:59 AM, wrote: Many of you have said that you are using interferon to treat your FeLV cats and I'm trying to decide if we should start Eden on this as well. Nobody has mentioned any side effects from the treatment but I work with cancer patients and I've seen many patients treated with interferon and it is not well tolerated at all. In fact it is a treatment that is plagued with many serious side effects and in many cases the side effects are much worse then the symptoms of the patient's actual disease. So I'm wondering if the cats being treated are experiencing side effects or if the dose is so low in cats that the side effects aren't a problem. Thanks, Brenda ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle
This Sunday will be one month since I rescued Amber. I have no idea if she has ever been spayed or not. I am guessing not... If she hasn't, should she not be coming in heat soon? I just hope and pray she is not pregnant. If she does come in heat, I will get her spayed afterwards. Just waiting to see. As always, thank you everyone for your advice! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Question re positives & negatives
I am trying to determine what to do with Poppy both now & when the IFA test results come in. I've been reading & reading & from what I can gather, the old dictums about NEVER havinig positive & negative cats even in the same house has been abandoned. From what I have read, the general sense is that it's fine for positives & negatives to be in the same home, but should be separate so there is no chance of exchanging fluids such as with a bite, but more importantly with mutual grooming. But I know also that some of you have both positives & negatives really living together, not separate. Right? What about if I put Poppy in her condo in the spare bedroom & let me cats visit, so at least she SEES other cats. What is she hisses & spits? Would that have a chance of infecting any of mine who were nosing around her condo? My feeling is that it would. Also how effective is the vaccine these days? I know that some years ago the figure was about 30% so I never had any of my cats vaccinated. Has it been improved? Right now we are still waiting for the IFA test for Poppy. And I guess she needs retesting on that in at least a month. I do NOT want to keep her alone until then. We have a sanctuary for her if she tests IFA positive cause then we know that she is really positive. But the person who runs it tells me that regardless of how she tests on the IFA, she HAS leukemia. Period. And would go in with the positive cats. But my understanding is that if she is IFA negative, she has a chance of fighting it off & putting her in with the positives is giving up. I think she should only go in with the positives if she tests IFA positive. Can anyone help me sort this out? Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy
I am at work and I just thought of something. I am a nurse and come in contact with "human" bugs all the time. Is it logical for me to think that I should NOT let ANY of my cats come in contact with my clothes or shoes when I come home? Or are the human bugs not a risk for them. They are usually afraid of my white clothes anyway (cats are so funny), but it's my shoes I am more concerned with. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
I just called Hills and he said there is a best before date in red on the bottom of each can. If it is say 05 2010, it is good until the 1st of May 2010. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
I always keep a few cans on handbut I haven't checked for expiration dates on them...didn't even think about it. I would call the 800 number for Science Diet and ask them! Debbie (COL) "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" Philo > From: emilyofw...@aol.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:24:15 -0500 > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > > Just a quick question for future referrence, since all of my babies > are eating fine at the moment. I'm considering just keeping some of > the A/D on hand since my cats don't always get sick when the vet's > open. How long is it generally good for? In addition to Tofu being > positive, I've been cautioned to really keep a close eye on our 20-lbs- > er. (He is fat, but he and his littermates all have huge frames as > well, so 20lbs, while not being good, isn't quite as bad as it seems. > He is losing weight slowly since I've taken most of the treats away > from Mom!) > > -Emily > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
Great idea to keep A/D on handwe can buy at the emergency vet but it is $4.00 A CAN!If you can get a prescription from your vet you can buy at Petsmart, as long as there is a Banfield in there. They will give you a card and you can buy it at the regular checkout counter. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Emily Hunter wrote: > > Just a quick question for future referrence, since all of my babies are > eating fine at the moment. I'm considering just keeping some of the A/D on > hand since my cats don't always get sick when the vet's open. How long is it > generally good for? In addition to Tofu being positive, I've been cautioned > to really keep a close eye on our 20-lbs-er. (He is fat, but he and his > littermates all have huge frames as well, so 20lbs, while not being good, > isn't quite as bad as it seems. He is losing weight slowly since I've taken > most of the treats away from Mom!) > > -Emily > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
how much is it at petsmart? On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: > Great idea to keep A/D on hand -- > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
I don't remember, but considerably less than $4 a can. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, MaryChristine wrote: > how much is it at petsmart? > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Kelley Saveika > wrote: > > > Great idea to keep A/D on hand > > > -- > > > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > MaryChristine > Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org > ) > Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
Try another vet...It runs about $2 a can in Louisville (it has been a few months since I checked). On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: I don't remember, but considerably less than $4 a can. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, MaryChristine >wrote: how much is it at petsmart? On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: Great idea to keep A/D on hand -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper & Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
Same here in Florida...but you can't just buy it at the store...you must purchase it from a vet. Debbie (COL) "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" Philo > From: maima...@duo-county.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:27:43 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > Try another vet...It runs about $2 a can in Louisville (it has been a > few months since I checked). > On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: > > > I don't remember, but considerably less than $4 a can. > > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, MaryChristine > >wrote: > > > >> how much is it at petsmart? > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Kelley Saveika > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Great idea to keep A/D on hand > >> > >> > >> -- > >>> > >> Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > >> Maybe That'll Make The Difference > >> > >> MaryChristine > >> Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org > >> ) > >> Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ > >> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! > > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 > > > > http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* > > > > Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! > > http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties > > > > Help us spay some kitties! > > > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals > > > > "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take > > them first > > as long as you leave me alone". > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > Marylyn, Copper & Thomas > > > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
Another thought: Compare the A/D ingredients and purpose with some of the better OTC foods. A/D has been such a standby that other foods are often ignored. This is a judgment call. On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:13 AM, Debbie Harrison wrote: Same here in Florida...but you can't just buy it at the store...you must purchase it from a vet. Debbie (COL) "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" Philo From: maima...@duo-county.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:27:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D Try another vet...It runs about $2 a can in Louisville (it has been a few months since I checked). On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: I don't remember, but considerably less than $4 a can. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, MaryChristine wrote: how much is it at petsmart? On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: Great idea to keep A/D on hand -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper & Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper & Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
Everything costs more at the emergency vet. They have you over a barrel as no one else is open. On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Cougar Clan wrote: > Try another vet...It runs about $2 a can in Louisville (it has been a few > months since I checked). > > On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: > > I don't remember, but considerably less than $4 a can. >> >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, MaryChristine > >wrote: >> >> how much is it at petsmart? >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Kelley Saveika >>> wrote: >>> >>> Great idea to keep A/D on hand >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! >>> Maybe That'll Make The Difference >>> >>> MaryChristine >>> Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue ( >>> www.purebredcats.org >>> ) >>> Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. >> >> http://www.rescuties.org >> >> Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! >> >> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 >> >> http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* >> >> Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! >> http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties >> >> Help us spay some kitties! >> >> http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals >> >> "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them >> first >> as long as you leave me alone". >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> > Marylyn, Copper & Thomas > > > > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
You can only buy it from the Petsmarts here that have Banfields in them...so you are, in effect, purchasing it from a vet. 2009/6/18 Debbie Harrison > > Same here in Florida...but you can't just buy it at the store...you must > purchase it from a vet. > > Debbie (COL) > "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" Philo > > > > > From: maima...@duo-county.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:27:43 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > > > Try another vet...It runs about $2 a can in Louisville (it has been a > > few months since I checked). > > On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: > > > > > I don't remember, but considerably less than $4 a can. > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, MaryChristine < > twelvehousec...@gmail.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > >> how much is it at petsmart? > > >> > > >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Kelley Saveika > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Great idea to keep A/D on hand > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >>> > > >> Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > > >> Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > >> > > >> MaryChristine > > >> Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue ( > www.purebredcats.org > > >> ) > > >> Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) > > >> ___ > > >> Felvtalk mailing list > > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ > > >> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > > > Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! > > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 > > > > > > http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* > > > > > > Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! > > > http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties > > > > > > Help us spay some kitties! > > > > > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals > > > > > > "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take > > > them first > > > as long as you leave me alone". > > > ___ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > Marylyn, Copper & Thomas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _ > Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
the benefit of a/d is the consistency/texture: MUCH easier to syringe-feed than most things you can prepare yourself. baby food is a good texture, but for an immediate shot of high-protein, palatable stuff that most cats will like a lot, a/d should definitely be in most folks' homes. so much for my humility. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
What is the full name of A/D - like if I went to the pet store, what would I ask for? Thanks, Susan -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D the benefit of a/d is the consistency/texture: MUCH easier to syringe-feed than most things you can prepare yourself. baby food is a good texture, but for an immediate shot of high-protein, palatable stuff that most cats will like a lot, a/d should definitely be in most folks' homes. so much for my humility. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
I'm almost certain it is made by Hill's Science Diet Debbie (COL) "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" Philo > Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:47:10 -0400 > From: sue.san...@ssa.gov > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > What is the full name of A/D - like if I went to the pet store, what > would I ask for? > > Thanks, > > Susan > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:44 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > the benefit of a/d is the consistency/texture: MUCH easier to > syringe-feed than most things you can prepare yourself. baby food is a > good texture, but for an immediate shot of high-protein, palatable stuff > that most cats will like a lot, a/d should definitely be in most folks' > homes. > > so much for my humility. > -- > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > MaryChristine > Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue > (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
But is it simply called A/D with Banfield? What is Banfield? Thanks, Susan -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Harrison Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D I'm almost certain it is made by Hill's Science Diet Debbie (COL) "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" Philo > Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:47:10 -0400 > From: sue.san...@ssa.gov > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > What is the full name of A/D - like if I went to the pet store, what > would I ask for? > > Thanks, > > Susan > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > MaryChristine > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:44 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > the benefit of a/d is the consistency/texture: MUCH easier to > syringe-feed than most things you can prepare yourself. baby food is a > good texture, but for an immediate shot of high-protein, palatable > stuff that most cats will like a lot, a/d should definitely be in most folks' > homes. > > so much for my humility. > -- > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > MaryChristine > Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue > (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.a spx&mkt=en-us ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
No,no,no...Banfield is the animal hospital attached to PetsmartIt's Hill's Science Diet a/d...that's it. Debbie (COL) "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" Philo > Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:53:19 -0400 > From: sue.san...@ssa.gov > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > But is it simply called A/D with Banfield? What is Banfield? > > Thanks, > > Susan > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie > Harrison > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:52 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > > I'm almost certain it is made by Hill's Science Diet > > Debbie (COL) > "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" Philo > > > > > Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:47:10 -0400 > > From: sue.san...@ssa.gov > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > > > What is the full name of A/D - like if I went to the pet store, what > > would I ask for? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Susan > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > > MaryChristine > > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:44 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > > > the benefit of a/d is the consistency/texture: MUCH easier to > > syringe-feed than most things you can prepare yourself. baby food is a > > > good texture, but for an immediate shot of high-protein, palatable > > stuff that most cats will like a lot, a/d should definitely be in most > folks' > > homes. > > > > so much for my humility. > > -- > > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > > > MaryChristine > > Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue > > (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _ > Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live > Spaces. It's easy! > http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.a > spx&mkt=en-us > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
banfield is a veterinary-clinic chain that has clinics inside of many petsmart locations. hill's a/d is the name -- any vet will know exactly what you mean! it is a prescription food, tho, so while you can buy it there, you'll need a scrip. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
It is Hill's Prescription Diet a/d. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:53 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D But is it simply called A/D with Banfield? What is Banfield? Thanks, Susan -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Harrison Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D I'm almost certain it is made by Hill's Science Diet Debbie (COL) "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" Philo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
Some PetsMart stores have an attached vet clinic called Banfield. Sharyl --- On Thu, 6/18/09, gary wrote: > From: gary > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 1:54 PM > It is Hill's Prescription Diet a/d. > > Gary > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] > On Behalf Of Sander, Sue > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:53 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > But is it simply called A/D with Banfield? What is > Banfield? > > Thanks, > > Susan > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] > On Behalf Of Debbie > Harrison > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:52 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > > I'm almost certain it is made by Hill's Science Diet > > Debbie (COL) > "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard > battle" Philo > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
ok, it is getting late and my brain is fuzzy - what is A/D? IS TOFU GOOD FOR CATS? Emily Hunter wrote: > > Just a quick question for future referrence, since all of my babies > are eating fine at the moment. I'm considering just keeping some of > the A/D on hand since my cats don't always get sick when the vet's > open. How long is it generally good for? In addition to Tofu being > positive, I've been cautioned to really keep a close eye on our 20-lbs- > er. (He is fat, but he and his littermates all have huge frames as > well, so 20lbs, while not being good, isn't quite as bad as it seems. > He is losing weight slowly since I've taken most of the treats away > from Mom!) > > -Emily > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
A/D is a specially prepared canned cat food that is high nutrition and very palatable. As far as tofu is concerned, I have cats who like soy products but it is not nutritionallly complete for cats so I would not let a cat try to live oin it. But I'll give most cats whatever appeals to them as a treat,. - Original Message From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Emily Hunter Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:08:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D ok, it is getting late and my brain is fuzzy - what is A/D? IS TOFU GOOD FOR CATS? Emily Hunter wrote: > > Just a quick question for future referrence, since all of my babies > are eating fine at the moment. I'm considering just keeping some of > the A/D on hand since my cats don't always get sick when the vet's > open. How long is it generally good for? In addition to Tofu being > positive, I've been cautioned to really keep a close eye on our 20-lbs- > er. (He is fat, but he and his littermates all have huge frames as > well, so 20lbs, while not being good, isn't quite as bad as it seems. > He is losing weight slowly since I've taken most of the treats away > from Mom!) > > -Emily > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
Soy products (eg tofu) have a greater likelihood (than some other ingredients) of causing an allergic reaction. AD should have an expiration date on the can. I keep both AD and Low residue on hand (Low residue works to get Frankie back on track when he has fudgy stools). L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D A/D is a specially prepared canned cat food that is high nutrition and very palatable. As far as tofu is concerned, I have cats who like soy products but it is not nutritionallly complete for cats so I would not let a cat try to live oin it. But I'll give most cats whatever appeals to them as a treat,. - Original Message From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Emily Hunter Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:08:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D ok, it is getting late and my brain is fuzzy - what is A/D? IS TOFU GOOD FOR CATS? Emily Hunter wrote: > > Just a quick question for future referrence, since all of my babies > are eating fine at the moment. I'm considering just keeping some of > the A/D on hand since my cats don't always get sick when the vet's > open. How long is it generally good for? In addition to Tofu being > positive, I've been cautioned to really keep a close eye on our 20-lbs- > er. (He is fat, but he and his littermates all have huge frames as > well, so 20lbs, while not being good, isn't quite as bad as it seems. > He is losing weight slowly since I've taken most of the treats away > from Mom!) > > -Emily > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
Where do you buy A/D? Is that the REAL name if I went into a store? Susan -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D A/D is a specially prepared canned cat food that is high nutrition and very palatable. As far as tofu is concerned, I have cats who like soy products but it is not nutritionallly complete for cats so I would not let a cat try to live oin it. But I'll give most cats whatever appeals to them as a treat,. - Original Message From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Emily Hunter Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:08:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D ok, it is getting late and my brain is fuzzy - what is A/D? IS TOFU GOOD FOR CATS? Emily Hunter wrote: > > Just a quick question for future referrence, since all of my babies > are eating fine at the moment. I'm considering just keeping some of > the A/D on hand since my cats don't always get sick when the vet's > open. How long is it generally good for? In addition to Tofu being > positive, I've been cautioned to really keep a close eye on our > 20-lbs- er. (He is fat, but he and his littermates all have huge > frames as well, so 20lbs, while not being good, isn't quite as bad as it > seems. > He is losing weight slowly since I've taken most of the treats away > from Mom!) > > -Emily > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
