Re: [Felvtalk] New to felv

[Amani Oakley]

Yep - still plugging along. Good to hear you're okay too.

Amani

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Sent: May 18, 2021 6:48 PM
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Hello Amani,

It has been a while.  Glad to know you survived the "pandemic".  All is well 
here despite having 2 FELV positive cats.  It did not spread to others.  I lost 
one Homey to Hyper thyroid at age 13.  Everyone else has passed from old age at 
18+.
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Sent: Tue, 18 May 2021 14:44:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to felv

Pamela

First, I have kept FeLV positive cats with other cats and never ever had a 
transfer of the infection. Like you, we didn’t know and the kitten we took in 
only tested positive when he was a little under a year old. He had been mixing 
with our other cats for at least ten months - same food and water bowls, 
sleeping together, etc. I think your primary vet is correct. Keep Toby.

With respect to the FeLV, treat with Winstrol + Doxycycline + Prednisone. Our 
FeLV cat lived to almost 8 years old, and died from a heart condition. The 
heart condition might have been related to the damage done by the virus, or 
not, but in any event, he greatly outlived all predictions. We were repeatedly 
told to put him down when he was one, and I just refused.

Your cat doesn’t seem to be in crisis and it might be best to start him now on 
1 mg Winstrol (stanozolol) twice a day plus 50 mg of Doxycycline a day. Our cat 
was in crisis and almost died when I stumbled upon the effectiveness of 
Winstrol to help the body produce red cells and stimulate the bone marrow, so 
after trying just about everything else I could find on the Internet, with 
nothing working, and after giving him 2 blood transfusions, I had run out of 
options. I tried Stanozolol, which I happened to have at home for another cat, 
thinking at best it would make him feel better and increase his appetite. I was 
absolutely shocked when his hematocrit immediately (and I mean within days) 
began to climb for the first time in a year of ordeals. We were testing him 
weekly so I knew exactly what his haematology was showing before the Stanozolol 
and what happened to his red cells, reticulocytes, and platelets (all of which 
were very very very low) after we gave him the Winstrol.

You will have a devil of a time getting Winstrol and your vets are likely not 
going to believe you. I hope you have a friendly vet who can assist.

Amani

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From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of Pamela 
Olkowski
Sent: May 18, 2021 2:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New to felv

I am a cat owner my whole life and have no idea about felv. I need help as we 
have no idea what to expect and my apologies for the long history below. Any 
comments are greatly appreciated 

After losing 3 adult cats in a year to rare cancers, we were left with a single 
18 month old. We adopted another kitten from a rescue in December when he was 4 
months. He was rescued with his mother from a NM shelter and both tested 
negative for felv/fiv. The foster home kept him about a month after he was 
neutered and routine immunizations and deworming were completed

When having him checked at my general vet, she noted he had enlarged lymph 
nodes that did no subside even after teething was over. Otherwise Toby was 
fine. Many tests later he turned up positive for felv on both Elisa and IFA.  
We brought him to an internal specialist who also said Toby  has the antibody 
for bartonella and we started a month of antibiotics. His lymph nodes have 
decreased and we will check this week if the second round of antibiotics have 
decreased further. (14 days on veraflox and 21 days on doxycycline) No other 
medical issues with Toby who is now 9 months old

We were devastated the specialty vet told us we had to re home Toby to keep our 
other young cat safe. Our primary vet felt since the other cat was exposed for 
over 3 months and was now negative and vaccinated the risk was low.  We kept 
both but have separate feeding stations but struggling to keep separate water 

Does anyone have experience keeping these - and + together?  Since Toby IFA was 
positive yet still asymptomatic except enlarged lymph, is there any way to know 
if he will decline quickly?  The internal medicine specialist was very 
pessimistic said they rarely live beyond 2 years post diagnosis.  Toby’s mother 
and siblings are still negative per the rescue group so I was hoping for a 
miracle the IFA is wrong, is that possible? Can bartonella skew results ?

Thank you so much 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to felv

[dlg...@windstream.net]

Hello Amani,

It has been a while.  Glad to know you survived the "pandemic".  All is well 
here despite having 2 FELV positive cats.  It did not spread to others.  I lost 
one Homey to Hyper thyroid at age 13.  Everyone else has passed from old age at 
18+.
- Original Message -
From: Amani Oakley 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, 18 May 2021 14:44:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to felv

Pamela

First, I have kept FeLV positive cats with other cats and never ever had a 
transfer of the infection. Like you, we didn’t know and the kitten we took in 
only tested positive when he was a little under a year old. He had been mixing 
with our other cats for at least ten months - same food and water bowls, 
sleeping together, etc. I think your primary vet is correct. Keep Toby.

With respect to the FeLV, treat with Winstrol + Doxycycline + Prednisone. Our 
FeLV cat lived to almost 8 years old, and died from a heart condition. The 
heart condition might have been related to the damage done by the virus, or 
not, but in any event, he greatly outlived all predictions. We were repeatedly 
told to put him down when he was one, and I just refused.

Your cat doesn’t seem to be in crisis and it might be best to start him now on 
1 mg Winstrol (stanozolol) twice a day plus 50 mg of Doxycycline a day. Our cat 
was in crisis and almost died when I stumbled upon the effectiveness of 
Winstrol to help the body produce red cells and stimulate the bone marrow, so 
after trying just about everything else I could find on the Internet, with 
nothing working, and after giving him 2 blood transfusions, I had run out of 
options. I tried Stanozolol, which I happened to have at home for another cat, 
thinking at best it would make him feel better and increase his appetite. I was 
absolutely shocked when his hematocrit immediately (and I mean within days) 
began to climb for the first time in a year of ordeals. We were testing him 
weekly so I knew exactly what his haematology was showing before the Stanozolol 
and what happened to his red cells, reticulocytes, and platelets (all of which 
were very very very low) after we gave him the Winstrol.

You will have a devil of a time getting Winstrol and your vets are likely not 
going to believe you. I hope you have a friendly vet who can assist.

Amani

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From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of Pamela 
Olkowski
Sent: May 18, 2021 2:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New to felv

I am a cat owner my whole life and have no idea about felv. I need help as we 
have no idea what to expect and my apologies for the long history below. Any 
comments are greatly appreciated 

After losing 3 adult cats in a year to rare cancers, we were left with a single 
18 month old. We adopted another kitten from a rescue in December when he was 4 
months. He was rescued with his mother from a NM shelter and both tested 
negative for felv/fiv. The foster home kept him about a month after he was 
neutered and routine immunizations and deworming were completed

When having him checked at my general vet, she noted he had enlarged lymph 
nodes that did no subside even after teething was over. Otherwise Toby was 
fine. Many tests later he turned up positive for felv on both Elisa and IFA.  
We brought him to an internal specialist who also said Toby  has the antibody 
for bartonella and we started a month of antibiotics. His lymph nodes have 
decreased and we will check this week if the second round of antibiotics have 
decreased further. (14 days on veraflox and 21 days on doxycycline) No other 
medical issues with Toby who is now 9 months old

We were devastated the specialty vet told us we had to re home Toby to keep our 
other young cat safe. Our primary vet felt since the other cat was exposed for 
over 3 months and was now negative and vaccinated the risk was low.  We kept 
both but have separate feeding stations but struggling to keep separate water 

Does anyone have experience keeping these - and + together?  Since Toby IFA was 
positive yet still asymptomatic except enlarged lymph, is there any way to know 
if he will decline quickly?  The internal medicine specialist was very 
pessimistic said they rarely live beyond 2 years post diagnosis.  Toby’s mother 
and siblings are still negative per the rescue group so I was hoping for a 
miracle the IFA is wrong, is that possible? Can bartonella skew results ?

Thank you so much 

 

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[Felvtalk] New to felv

[Pamela Olkowski]

I am a cat owner my whole life and have no idea about felv. I need help as we 
have no idea what to expect and my apologies for the long history below. Any 
comments are greatly appreciated 

After losing 3 adult cats in a year to rare cancers, we were left with a single 
18 month old. We adopted another kitten from a rescue in December when he was 4 
months. He was rescued with his mother from a NM shelter and both tested 
negative for felv/fiv. The foster home kept him about a month after he was 
neutered and routine immunizations and deworming were completed

When having him checked at my general vet, she noted he had enlarged lymph 
nodes that did no subside even after teething was over. Otherwise Toby was 
fine. Many tests later he turned up positive for felv on both Elisa and IFA.  
We brought him to an internal specialist who also said Toby  has the antibody 
for bartonella and we started a month of antibiotics. His lymph nodes have 
decreased and we will check this week if the second round of antibiotics have 
decreased further. (14 days on veraflox and 21 days on doxycycline) No other 
medical issues with Toby who is now 9 months old

We were devastated the specialty vet told us we had to re home Toby to keep our 
other young cat safe. Our primary vet felt since the other cat was exposed for 
over 3 months and was now negative and vaccinated the risk was low.  We kept 
both but have separate feeding stations but struggling to keep separate water 

Does anyone have experience keeping these - and + together?  Since Toby IFA was 
positive yet still asymptomatic except enlarged lymph, is there any way to know 
if he will decline quickly?  The internal medicine specialist was very 
pessimistic said they rarely live beyond 2 years post diagnosis.  Toby’s mother 
and siblings are still negative per the rescue group so I was hoping for a 
miracle the IFA is wrong, is that possible? Can bartonella skew results ?

Thank you so much 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to felv

[Amani Oakley]

Pamela

First, I have kept FeLV positive cats with other cats and never ever had a 
transfer of the infection. Like you, we didn’t know and the kitten we took in 
only tested positive when he was a little under a year old. He had been mixing 
with our other cats for at least ten months - same food and water bowls, 
sleeping together, etc. I think your primary vet is correct. Keep Toby.

With respect to the FeLV, treat with Winstrol + Doxycycline + Prednisone. Our 
FeLV cat lived to almost 8 years old, and died from a heart condition. The 
heart condition might have been related to the damage done by the virus, or 
not, but in any event, he greatly outlived all predictions. We were repeatedly 
told to put him down when he was one, and I just refused.

Your cat doesn’t seem to be in crisis and it might be best to start him now on 
1 mg Winstrol (stanozolol) twice a day plus 50 mg of Doxycycline a day. Our cat 
was in crisis and almost died when I stumbled upon the effectiveness of 
Winstrol to help the body produce red cells and stimulate the bone marrow, so 
after trying just about everything else I could find on the Internet, with 
nothing working, and after giving him 2 blood transfusions, I had run out of 
options. I tried Stanozolol, which I happened to have at home for another cat, 
thinking at best it would make him feel better and increase his appetite. I was 
absolutely shocked when his hematocrit immediately (and I mean within days) 
began to climb for the first time in a year of ordeals. We were testing him 
weekly so I knew exactly what his haematology was showing before the Stanozolol 
and what happened to his red cells, reticulocytes, and platelets (all of which 
were very very very low) after we gave him the Winstrol.

You will have a devil of a time getting Winstrol and your vets are likely not 
going to believe you. I hope you have a friendly vet who can assist.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of Pamela 
Olkowski
Sent: May 18, 2021 2:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New to felv

I am a cat owner my whole life and have no idea about felv. I need help as we 
have no idea what to expect and my apologies for the long history below. Any 
comments are greatly appreciated 

After losing 3 adult cats in a year to rare cancers, we were left with a single 
18 month old. We adopted another kitten from a rescue in December when he was 4 
months. He was rescued with his mother from a NM shelter and both tested 
negative for felv/fiv. The foster home kept him about a month after he was 
neutered and routine immunizations and deworming were completed

When having him checked at my general vet, she noted he had enlarged lymph 
nodes that did no subside even after teething was over. Otherwise Toby was 
fine. Many tests later he turned up positive for felv on both Elisa and IFA.  
We brought him to an internal specialist who also said Toby  has the antibody 
for bartonella and we started a month of antibiotics. His lymph nodes have 
decreased and we will check this week if the second round of antibiotics have 
decreased further. (14 days on veraflox and 21 days on doxycycline) No other 
medical issues with Toby who is now 9 months old

We were devastated the specialty vet told us we had to re home Toby to keep our 
other young cat safe. Our primary vet felt since the other cat was exposed for 
over 3 months and was now negative and vaccinated the risk was low.  We kept 
both but have separate feeding stations but struggling to keep separate water 

Does anyone have experience keeping these - and + together?  Since Toby IFA was 
positive yet still asymptomatic except enlarged lymph, is there any way to know 
if he will decline quickly?  The internal medicine specialist was very 
pessimistic said they rarely live beyond 2 years post diagnosis.  Toby’s mother 
and siblings are still negative per the rescue group so I was hoping for a 
miracle the IFA is wrong, is that possible? Can bartonella skew results ?

Thank you so much 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Kristy - that's great about the blood work. However, don’t let it make you 
complacent. If she tested FeLV positive, and she is such a wee kitten, with all 
kinds of other problems, if it were me, I would want to get ahead of the 
problem. Also, as I've mentioned, the Stanozolol seems to be helpful for other 
conditions, and it also makes them feel better and improves their appetite and 
overall outlook on life.

Please let us know how things go. We're all praying for your little kitten and 
thank you for having such a good heart.

Amani

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Sent: June 3, 2019 10:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty

Hi Amani!

Thanks for your help!

As far as I know his bloodwork came back normal other than the fever. 

I will talk to my vet about the meds you suggested. Unfortunately the two vets 
I have taken him haven’t really been forthcoming with treatment options. 

My husband is taking him back to the vet on Friday since we can’t seem to get 
the diarrhea/bloating under control. 

Have a great day!
Kristy

> On May 31, 2019, at 9:35 AM, Amani Oakley  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kristy
> 
> The advice I repeat to everyone is that the best combination I found to treat 
> a FeLV cat is with prednisone (prednisolone), Doxycycline and Stanozolol. I 
> don’t know if you have run blood work to determine the haematocrit/red cell 
> levels, but when a cat goes into crisis, it is usually because the red cells 
> are not being replenished by the infected bone marrow (which normally 
> produces new red cells) and the cat becomes severely anaemic. Other cell 
> lines in the blood soon follow (white cells and platelets) because the 
> progenitor cells which produce those blood cell lines are also found in the 
> infected bone marrow (which is attacked by the virus). The reticulocyte 
> count, which is a measure of new red cells being produced by the bone marrow, 
> is very low or even zero (which it was with my cat).
> 
> I would not wait until your cat is in crisis to start the treatment. My 
> kitten was in severe crisis when I stumbled upon this combination therapy, 
> and it was the only thing that worked to reverse the severe anaemia. I had 
> tried three other treatments, while doing weekly blood testing, and none of 
> the other treatments (Interferon, LTCI and Immunoregulin) budged his results 
> upwards by even a single point, though I had used each treatment for weeks if 
> not months in looking for an effective treatment.
> 
> If I were you, I would get him on Doxycycline rather than, or at least in 
> addition to the Clavamox. The Doxycycline has been found to interfere with 
> cell wall production with some viruses. If this were my kitten, I would get 
> started on the combination of prednisone/stanozolol/doxycycline right away. 
> You might want to test the blood work to get a baseline first, but given that 
> your kitten is not currently in crisis, that may not be entirely necessary.
> 
> With respect to the intestinal issues, with my FeLV cat, I had identified 
> that there was intestinal involvement and my research confirmed that the 
> walls of the intestines can be affected by the virus. In my cat's case, the 
> intestines were swollen and the stool seemed to sit in there for a long time. 
> I used metoclopramide (tiny amount 1/4 to 1/5 of a tablet before each meal) 
> to keep everything moving along, because my cat was eating and then throwing 
> up. Metoclopramide helps with emptying of stomach contents and moving stool 
> out of the top 1/3 of the intestines. You might consider trying the 
> metoclopramide to see if it will help with the bloating and gas.
> 
> Amani
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of Kristy
> Sent: May 31, 2019 9:41 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty
> 
> Hi!
> 
> My husband and I recently took in a Fel-V+ kitty that showed up outside our 
> house a couple of months ago. We already had 7 other kitties so we had to 
> keep Fergus (kitty’s name) isolated in the upstairs portion of our house. 
> 
> He is experiencing bloating, is very gassy, and still has diarrhea (softer 
> stools) and I was wondering if this is a typical symptom of a positive kitty. 
> 
> He’s been to the vet and no parasites were found, but he was running a fever. 
> He is on Clavamox to help with the fever, but other than the 
> bloating/gas/diarrhea he is a normal kitty. We’ve tried figuring out if he 
> had an issue or allergy to specific foods, but nothing we’ve done has changed 
> his bloating/gas/diarrhea. He did have an ultrasound at the vet visit and 
> there were no masses or obstructions. 
> 
> Is this 

Re: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty

[Kristy]

Hi Amani!

Thanks for your help!

As far as I know his bloodwork came back normal other than the fever. 

I will talk to my vet about the meds you suggested. Unfortunately the two vets 
I have taken him haven’t really been forthcoming with treatment options. 

My husband is taking him back to the vet on Friday since we can’t seem to get 
the diarrhea/bloating under control. 

Have a great day!
Kristy

> On May 31, 2019, at 9:35 AM, Amani Oakley  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kristy
> 
> The advice I repeat to everyone is that the best combination I found to treat 
> a FeLV cat is with prednisone (prednisolone), Doxycycline and Stanozolol. I 
> don’t know if you have run blood work to determine the haematocrit/red cell 
> levels, but when a cat goes into crisis, it is usually because the red cells 
> are not being replenished by the infected bone marrow (which normally 
> produces new red cells) and the cat becomes severely anaemic. Other cell 
> lines in the blood soon follow (white cells and platelets) because the 
> progenitor cells which produce those blood cell lines are also found in the 
> infected bone marrow (which is attacked by the virus). The reticulocyte 
> count, which is a measure of new red cells being produced by the bone marrow, 
> is very low or even zero (which it was with my cat).
> 
> I would not wait until your cat is in crisis to start the treatment. My 
> kitten was in severe crisis when I stumbled upon this combination therapy, 
> and it was the only thing that worked to reverse the severe anaemia. I had 
> tried three other treatments, while doing weekly blood testing, and none of 
> the other treatments (Interferon, LTCI and Immunoregulin) budged his results 
> upwards by even a single point, though I had used each treatment for weeks if 
> not months in looking for an effective treatment.
> 
> If I were you, I would get him on Doxycycline rather than, or at least in 
> addition to the Clavamox. The Doxycycline has been found to interfere with 
> cell wall production with some viruses. If this were my kitten, I would get 
> started on the combination of prednisone/stanozolol/doxycycline right away. 
> You might want to test the blood work to get a baseline first, but given that 
> your kitten is not currently in crisis, that may not be entirely necessary.
> 
> With respect to the intestinal issues, with my FeLV cat, I had identified 
> that there was intestinal involvement and my research confirmed that the 
> walls of the intestines can be affected by the virus. In my cat's case, the 
> intestines were swollen and the stool seemed to sit in there for a long time. 
> I used metoclopramide (tiny amount 1/4 to 1/5 of a tablet before each meal) 
> to keep everything moving along, because my cat was eating and then throwing 
> up. Metoclopramide helps with emptying of stomach contents and moving stool 
> out of the top 1/3 of the intestines. You might consider trying the 
> metoclopramide to see if it will help with the bloating and gas.
> 
> Amani
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of Kristy
> Sent: May 31, 2019 9:41 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty
> 
> Hi!
> 
> My husband and I recently took in a Fel-V+ kitty that showed up outside our 
> house a couple of months ago. We already had 7 other kitties so we had to 
> keep Fergus (kitty’s name) isolated in the upstairs portion of our house. 
> 
> He is experiencing bloating, is very gassy, and still has diarrhea (softer 
> stools) and I was wondering if this is a typical symptom of a positive kitty. 
> 
> He’s been to the vet and no parasites were found, but he was running a fever. 
> He is on Clavamox to help with the fever, but other than the 
> bloating/gas/diarrhea he is a normal kitty. We’ve tried figuring out if he 
> had an issue or allergy to specific foods, but nothing we’ve done has changed 
> his bloating/gas/diarrhea. He did have an ultrasound at the vet visit and 
> there were no masses or obstructions. 
> 
> Is this possibly a symptom of the Fel-V?  What sort of stuff should we be 
> looking for?
> 
> He’s such a sweet, loving kitty and my husband’s baby!  How can we help this 
> kitty?
> 
> Thanks for any help you can provide!
> Kristy
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Re: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Kristy

The advice I repeat to everyone is that the best combination I found to treat a 
FeLV cat is with prednisone (prednisolone), Doxycycline and Stanozolol. I don’t 
know if you have run blood work to determine the haematocrit/red cell levels, 
but when a cat goes into crisis, it is usually because the red cells are not 
being replenished by the infected bone marrow (which normally produces new red 
cells) and the cat becomes severely anaemic. Other cell lines in the blood soon 
follow (white cells and platelets) because the progenitor cells which produce 
those blood cell lines are also found in the infected bone marrow (which is 
attacked by the virus). The reticulocyte count, which is a measure of new red 
cells being produced by the bone marrow, is very low or even zero (which it was 
with my cat).

I would not wait until your cat is in crisis to start the treatment. My kitten 
was in severe crisis when I stumbled upon this combination therapy, and it was 
the only thing that worked to reverse the severe anaemia. I had tried three 
other treatments, while doing weekly blood testing, and none of the other 
treatments (Interferon, LTCI and Immunoregulin) budged his results upwards by 
even a single point, though I had used each treatment for weeks if not months 
in looking for an effective treatment.

If I were you, I would get him on Doxycycline rather than, or at least in 
addition to the Clavamox. The Doxycycline has been found to interfere with cell 
wall production with some viruses. If this were my kitten, I would get started 
on the combination of prednisone/stanozolol/doxycycline right away. You might 
want to test the blood work to get a baseline first, but given that your kitten 
is not currently in crisis, that may not be entirely necessary.

With respect to the intestinal issues, with my FeLV cat, I had identified that 
there was intestinal involvement and my research confirmed that the walls of 
the intestines can be affected by the virus. In my cat's case, the intestines 
were swollen and the stool seemed to sit in there for a long time. I used 
metoclopramide (tiny amount 1/4 to 1/5 of a tablet before each meal) to keep 
everything moving along, because my cat was eating and then throwing up. 
Metoclopramide helps with emptying of stomach contents and moving stool out of 
the top 1/3 of the intestines. You might consider trying the metoclopramide to 
see if it will help with the bloating and gas.

Amani



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From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of Kristy
Sent: May 31, 2019 9:41 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty

Hi!

My husband and I recently took in a Fel-V+ kitty that showed up outside our 
house a couple of months ago. We already had 7 other kitties so we had to keep 
Fergus (kitty’s name) isolated in the upstairs portion of our house. 

He is experiencing bloating, is very gassy, and still has diarrhea (softer 
stools) and I was wondering if this is a typical symptom of a positive kitty. 

He’s been to the vet and no parasites were found, but he was running a fever. 
He is on Clavamox to help with the fever, but other than the 
bloating/gas/diarrhea he is a normal kitty. We’ve tried figuring out if he had 
an issue or allergy to specific foods, but nothing we’ve done has changed his 
bloating/gas/diarrhea. He did have an ultrasound at the vet visit and there 
were no masses or obstructions. 

Is this possibly a symptom of the Fel-V?  What sort of stuff should we be 
looking for?

He’s such a sweet, loving kitty and my husband’s baby!  How can we help this 
kitty?

Thanks for any help you can provide!
Kristy

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[Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty

[Kristy]

Hi!

My husband and I recently took in a Fel-V+ kitty that showed up outside our 
house a couple of months ago. We already had 7 other kitties so we had to keep 
Fergus (kitty’s name) isolated in the upstairs portion of our house. 

He is experiencing bloating, is very gassy, and still has diarrhea (softer 
stools) and I was wondering if this is a typical symptom of a positive kitty. 

He’s been to the vet and no parasites were found, but he was running a fever. 
He is on Clavamox to help with the fever, but other than the 
bloating/gas/diarrhea he is a normal kitty. We’ve tried figuring out if he had 
an issue or allergy to specific foods, but nothing we’ve done has changed his 
bloating/gas/diarrhea. He did have an ultrasound at the vet visit and there 
were no masses or obstructions. 

Is this possibly a symptom of the Fel-V?  What sort of stuff should we be 
looking for?

He’s such a sweet, loving kitty and my husband’s baby!  How can we help this 
kitty?

Thanks for any help you can provide!
Kristy

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Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom

[Amani Oakley]

As I mentioned, Sheri, I will dab baby food on their mouths - on their upper 
lip even – beneath their noses. They will usually automatically lick that off. 
Sometimes that encourages them to eat a bit more because the pureed baby food 
is easy to lick up, high in protein and vitamins, and very easy on the 
digestive tract.


Amani


From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri 
Burbridge
Sent: April-05-17 10:20 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom


I've struggled with Mo since he came home, literally, the only thing he will 
eat on his own is the Temptations treats. I count them so I know he's gotten 
more than his basic needs every day but he's never bowled us over with his 
appetite, even on mirzapine (definitely misspelled that). He will lick the gel 
off his feet still, I feel lucky to have found anything he likes but a bit 
stuck as he won't try anything else!

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 5:30 PM Amani Oakley 
mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Good luck Sheri. I understand all too well the reluctance to add stress by 
syringe feeding, but I think that the “gas in the engine” is also dependent on 
getting in those calories. I rely on baby food. I find that it is usually 
palatable enough that you can usually syringe a wee bit of it on their lips or 
just inside their lips – if they sit or lie down beside you or in your lap (my 
preferred position), and they will lick at what is in or on their mouth. I 
think this helps to stimulate their appetite. The Winstrol will often also help 
improve appetite, strength and a sense of feeling better so that they want to 
eat a bit more.

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
 On Behalf Of Sheri Burbridge
Sent: April-05-17 3:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom


Mo was already on Prednisone so I've just continued that daily while adding on 
the Doxy and now the generic Winstrol. My vet gave me an rx for 60 days of the 
Winstrol. I hope to run bloodwork again after 30 days. I don't want to check 
too soon and unfortunately I think we will find out all too soon if it's not 
helping. She did mention his reticulocyte count was nonexistent last week.

I'm currently only able to get him to eat Temptations treats and I put the high 
calorie gel on his feet when he hasn't eaten at least 100 calories a day. I was 
syringe feeding him for awhile but I don't want to do that unless he won't eat 
at all.

I'm trying as hard as I can to turn this around for him. I work in healthcare 
and am very science minded so the theory behind all of this makes sense. I just 
hope he's got enough gas left in the tank for his body to recover.

Sheri

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 1:56 PM Amani Oakley 
mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Hi Sheri

As you have seen and referenced, some people have had good results with the 
Winstrol/Doxy combination, while others have not. In my opinion, it is at least 
worth a shot given the very limited alternatives out there. Good that you have 
a baseline reading on the blood results – this will allow you to know if he is 
moving the right direction on the meds.

10 is a haematocrit value, not the RBCs. 10 is low but my cat (Zander) had 
dropped down to 5, and I was able to pull him out of the abyss – first with a 
blood transfusion and then with the Winstrol. When I started the Winstrol, it 
was after his 2nd blood transfusion, which wasn’t doing more than giving a 
temporary fix. He had gone up to a 16 haematocrit after the 2nd transfusion, 
but they had had to stop midway through the second bag of blood because he had 
had a transfusion reaction and they told me that that was it for being able to 
give him any more transfusions. I had watched for two months as his haematocrit 
dropped steadily down from 16 to 10, despite trying all sorts of other options 
like Interferon and LTCI.

I started him on the Winstrol (he was already on Doxy and Prednisone) and 
within a few days, I noticed a pinkening of his ears and gums, and his weekly 
blood work showed his haematocrit had gone up to 12. From there, it rose 
steadily in ones and twos until it finally got back into the normal reference 
range, as did his platelets and white cells, but it took almost 10 months of 
treatment and every time I tried to wean him off the Winstrol, his haematocrit 
and red cells would fall again.

I suggest you try the meds, (consider adding prednisone or prednisolone as 
well), and keep a close eye on his haematology results. Ask for them to run a 
reticulocyte count with the haematology panel. This should tell you if he is 
producing new red cells or not. Again, with Zander, his reticulocyte count was 
basically zero when I started the Winstrol, but it went up almost immediately.

Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom

[Sheri Burbridge]

I've struggled with Mo since he came home, literally, the only thing he
will eat on his own is the Temptations treats. I count them so I know he's
gotten more than his basic needs every day but he's never bowled us over
with his appetite, even on mirzapine (definitely misspelled that). He will
lick the gel off his feet still, I feel lucky to have found anything he
likes but a bit stuck as he won't try anything else!

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 5:30 PM Amani Oakley  wrote:

> Good luck Sheri. I understand all too well the reluctance to add stress by
> syringe feeding, but I think that the “gas in the engine” is also dependent
> on getting in those calories. I rely on baby food. I find that it is
> usually palatable enough that you can usually syringe a wee bit of it on
> their lips or just inside their lips – if they sit or lie down beside you
> or in your lap (my preferred position), and they will lick at what is in or
> on their mouth. I think this helps to stimulate their appetite. The
> Winstrol will often also help improve appetite, strength and a sense of
> feeling better so that they want to eat a bit more.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Sheri Burbridge
> *Sent:* April-05-17 3:22 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom
>
>
>
> Mo was already on Prednisone so I've just continued that daily while
> adding on the Doxy and now the generic Winstrol. My vet gave me an rx for
> 60 days of the Winstrol. I hope to run bloodwork again after 30 days. I
> don't want to check too soon and unfortunately I think we will find out all
> too soon if it's not helping. She did mention his reticulocyte count was
> nonexistent last week.
>
> I'm currently only able to get him to eat Temptations treats and I put the
> high calorie gel on his feet when he hasn't eaten at least 100 calories a
> day. I was syringe feeding him for awhile but I don't want to do that
> unless he won't eat at all.
>
> I'm trying as hard as I can to turn this around for him. I work in
> healthcare and am very science minded so the theory behind all of this
> makes sense. I just hope he's got enough gas left in the tank for his body
> to recover.
>
> Sheri
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 1:56 PM Amani Oakley  wrote:
>
> Hi Sheri
>
>
>
> As you have seen and referenced, some people have had good results with
> the Winstrol/Doxy combination, while others have not. In my opinion, it is
> at least worth a shot given the very limited alternatives out there. Good
> that you have a baseline reading on the blood results – this will allow you
> to know if he is moving the right direction on the meds.
>
>
>
> 10 is a haematocrit value, not the RBCs. 10 is low but my cat (Zander) had
> dropped down to 5, and I was able to pull him out of the abyss – first with
> a blood transfusion and then with the Winstrol. When I started the
> Winstrol, it was after his 2nd blood transfusion, which wasn’t doing more
> than giving a temporary fix. He had gone up to a 16 haematocrit after the 2
> nd transfusion, but they had had to stop midway through the second bag of
> blood because he had had a transfusion reaction and they told me that that
> was it for being able to give him any more transfusions. I had watched for
> two months as his haematocrit dropped steadily down from 16 to 10, despite
> trying all sorts of other options like Interferon and LTCI.
>
>
>
> I started him on the Winstrol (he was already on Doxy and Prednisone) and
> within a few days, I noticed a pinkening of his ears and gums, and his
> weekly blood work showed his haematocrit had gone up to 12. From there, it
> rose steadily in ones and twos until it finally got back into the normal
> reference range, as did his platelets and white cells, but it took almost
> 10 months of treatment and every time I tried to wean him off the Winstrol,
> his haematocrit and red cells would fall again.
>
>
>
> I suggest you try the meds, (consider adding prednisone or prednisolone as
> well), and keep a close eye on his haematology results. Ask for them to run
> a reticulocyte count with the haematology panel. This should tell you if he
> is producing new red cells or not. Again, with Zander, his reticulocyte
> count was basically zero when I started the Winstrol, but it went up almost
> immediately.
>
>
>
> I also found the need to give Zander 1/5 tablet of apometoclompromide to
> get the food to go down. I understand that the virus will often affect the
> GI tract, including thickening of the intestinal walls, causing food and
> stool moves very slowly through the GI 

Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom

[Amani Oakley]

Good luck Sheri. I understand all too well the reluctance to add stress by 
syringe feeding, but I think that the “gas in the engine” is also dependent on 
getting in those calories. I rely on baby food. I find that it is usually 
palatable enough that you can usually syringe a wee bit of it on their lips or 
just inside their lips – if they sit or lie down beside you or in your lap (my 
preferred position), and they will lick at what is in or on their mouth. I 
think this helps to stimulate their appetite. The Winstrol will often also help 
improve appetite, strength and a sense of feeling better so that they want to 
eat a bit more.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri 
Burbridge
Sent: April-05-17 3:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom


Mo was already on Prednisone so I've just continued that daily while adding on 
the Doxy and now the generic Winstrol. My vet gave me an rx for 60 days of the 
Winstrol. I hope to run bloodwork again after 30 days. I don't want to check 
too soon and unfortunately I think we will find out all too soon if it's not 
helping. She did mention his reticulocyte count was nonexistent last week.

I'm currently only able to get him to eat Temptations treats and I put the high 
calorie gel on his feet when he hasn't eaten at least 100 calories a day. I was 
syringe feeding him for awhile but I don't want to do that unless he won't eat 
at all.

I'm trying as hard as I can to turn this around for him. I work in healthcare 
and am very science minded so the theory behind all of this makes sense. I just 
hope he's got enough gas left in the tank for his body to recover.

Sheri

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 1:56 PM Amani Oakley 
mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Hi Sheri

As you have seen and referenced, some people have had good results with the 
Winstrol/Doxy combination, while others have not. In my opinion, it is at least 
worth a shot given the very limited alternatives out there. Good that you have 
a baseline reading on the blood results – this will allow you to know if he is 
moving the right direction on the meds.

10 is a haematocrit value, not the RBCs. 10 is low but my cat (Zander) had 
dropped down to 5, and I was able to pull him out of the abyss – first with a 
blood transfusion and then with the Winstrol. When I started the Winstrol, it 
was after his 2nd blood transfusion, which wasn’t doing more than giving a 
temporary fix. He had gone up to a 16 haematocrit after the 2nd transfusion, 
but they had had to stop midway through the second bag of blood because he had 
had a transfusion reaction and they told me that that was it for being able to 
give him any more transfusions. I had watched for two months as his haematocrit 
dropped steadily down from 16 to 10, despite trying all sorts of other options 
like Interferon and LTCI.

I started him on the Winstrol (he was already on Doxy and Prednisone) and 
within a few days, I noticed a pinkening of his ears and gums, and his weekly 
blood work showed his haematocrit had gone up to 12. From there, it rose 
steadily in ones and twos until it finally got back into the normal reference 
range, as did his platelets and white cells, but it took almost 10 months of 
treatment and every time I tried to wean him off the Winstrol, his haematocrit 
and red cells would fall again.

I suggest you try the meds, (consider adding prednisone or prednisolone as 
well), and keep a close eye on his haematology results. Ask for them to run a 
reticulocyte count with the haematology panel. This should tell you if he is 
producing new red cells or not. Again, with Zander, his reticulocyte count was 
basically zero when I started the Winstrol, but it went up almost immediately.

I also found the need to give Zander 1/5 tablet of apometoclompromide to get 
the food to go down. I understand that the virus will often affect the GI 
tract, including thickening of the intestinal walls, causing food and stool 
moves very slowly through the GI tract, thus adding to the cat’s malaise, and 
reduced appetite. Also, this slow down allows more problems to develop in the 
intestinal walls (with the stool sitting in one spot for a long time). The 
apometoclopromide increases peristaltic action in the GI tract, pushing food 
down faster. I found this really helped Zander, since he was also vomiting all 
the time (including after I would spend an hour getting him to eat or syringe 
feeding him baby food). The apometoclopromide is given a little bit before 
feeding, and it worked like a charm. Once I started giving it to him, the 
vomiting stopped and stool started coming out of him normally.

Sadly, however, the meds haven’t worked for everyone. It could be how advanced 
the condition is before the meds are started, and there is also information 
online that they have identified a number of strains of the FeLV virus. I 
sus

Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom

[Sheri Burbridge]

Mo was already on Prednisone so I've just continued that daily while adding
on the Doxy and now the generic Winstrol. My vet gave me an rx for 60 days
of the Winstrol. I hope to run bloodwork again after 30 days. I don't want
to check too soon and unfortunately I think we will find out all too soon
if it's not helping. She did mention his reticulocyte count was nonexistent
last week.

I'm currently only able to get him to eat Temptations treats and I put the
high calorie gel on his feet when he hasn't eaten at least 100 calories a
day. I was syringe feeding him for awhile but I don't want to do that
unless he won't eat at all.

I'm trying as hard as I can to turn this around for him. I work in
healthcare and am very science minded so the theory behind all of this
makes sense. I just hope he's got enough gas left in the tank for his body
to recover.

Sheri

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 1:56 PM Amani Oakley  wrote:

> Hi Sheri
>
>
>
> As you have seen and referenced, some people have had good results with
> the Winstrol/Doxy combination, while others have not. In my opinion, it is
> at least worth a shot given the very limited alternatives out there. Good
> that you have a baseline reading on the blood results – this will allow you
> to know if he is moving the right direction on the meds.
>
>
>
> 10 is a haematocrit value, not the RBCs. 10 is low but my cat (Zander) had
> dropped down to 5, and I was able to pull him out of the abyss – first with
> a blood transfusion and then with the Winstrol. When I started the
> Winstrol, it was after his 2nd blood transfusion, which wasn’t doing more
> than giving a temporary fix. He had gone up to a 16 haematocrit after the 2
> nd transfusion, but they had had to stop midway through the second bag of
> blood because he had had a transfusion reaction and they told me that that
> was it for being able to give him any more transfusions. I had watched for
> two months as his haematocrit dropped steadily down from 16 to 10, despite
> trying all sorts of other options like Interferon and LTCI.
>
>
>
> I started him on the Winstrol (he was already on Doxy and Prednisone) and
> within a few days, I noticed a pinkening of his ears and gums, and his
> weekly blood work showed his haematocrit had gone up to 12. From there, it
> rose steadily in ones and twos until it finally got back into the normal
> reference range, as did his platelets and white cells, but it took almost
> 10 months of treatment and every time I tried to wean him off the Winstrol,
> his haematocrit and red cells would fall again.
>
>
>
> I suggest you try the meds, (consider adding prednisone or prednisolone as
> well), and keep a close eye on his haematology results. Ask for them to run
> a reticulocyte count with the haematology panel. This should tell you if he
> is producing new red cells or not. Again, with Zander, his reticulocyte
> count was basically zero when I started the Winstrol, but it went up almost
> immediately.
>
>
>
> I also found the need to give Zander 1/5 tablet of apometoclompromide to
> get the food to go down. I understand that the virus will often affect the
> GI tract, including thickening of the intestinal walls, causing food and
> stool moves very slowly through the GI tract, thus adding to the cat’s
> malaise, and reduced appetite. Also, this slow down allows more problems to
> develop in the intestinal walls (with the stool sitting in one spot for a
> long time). The apometoclopromide increases peristaltic action in the GI
> tract, pushing food down faster. I found this really helped Zander, since
> he was also vomiting all the time (including after I would spend an hour
> getting him to eat or syringe feeding him baby food). The apometoclopromide
> is given a little bit before feeding, and it worked like a charm. Once I
> started giving it to him, the vomiting stopped and stool started coming out
> of him normally.
>
>
>
> Sadly, however, the meds haven’t worked for everyone. It could be how
> advanced the condition is before the meds are started, and there is also
> information online that they have identified a number of strains of the
> FeLV virus. I suspect that this might also account for the fact that some
> of us see a great improvement in our cats, while others don’t. I’m crossing
> my fingers for you and I am very happy that you have a supportive vet. That
> is often the first big problem, so thankfully, this isn’t an issue you must
> also deal with.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Sheri Burbridge
> *Sent:* April-05-17 1:29 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] New FELV mom
>
>
>
> Hi eve

Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Sheri

As you have seen and referenced, some people have had good results with the 
Winstrol/Doxy combination, while others have not. In my opinion, it is at least 
worth a shot given the very limited alternatives out there. Good that you have 
a baseline reading on the blood results – this will allow you to know if he is 
moving the right direction on the meds.

10 is a haematocrit value, not the RBCs. 10 is low but my cat (Zander) had 
dropped down to 5, and I was able to pull him out of the abyss – first with a 
blood transfusion and then with the Winstrol. When I started the Winstrol, it 
was after his 2nd blood transfusion, which wasn’t doing more than giving a 
temporary fix. He had gone up to a 16 haematocrit after the 2nd transfusion, 
but they had had to stop midway through the second bag of blood because he had 
had a transfusion reaction and they told me that that was it for being able to 
give him any more transfusions. I had watched for two months as his haematocrit 
dropped steadily down from 16 to 10, despite trying all sorts of other options 
like Interferon and LTCI.

I started him on the Winstrol (he was already on Doxy and Prednisone) and 
within a few days, I noticed a pinkening of his ears and gums, and his weekly 
blood work showed his haematocrit had gone up to 12. From there, it rose 
steadily in ones and twos until it finally got back into the normal reference 
range, as did his platelets and white cells, but it took almost 10 months of 
treatment and every time I tried to wean him off the Winstrol, his haematocrit 
and red cells would fall again.

I suggest you try the meds, (consider adding prednisone or prednisolone as 
well), and keep a close eye on his haematology results. Ask for them to run a 
reticulocyte count with the haematology panel. This should tell you if he is 
producing new red cells or not. Again, with Zander, his reticulocyte count was 
basically zero when I started the Winstrol, but it went up almost immediately.

I also found the need to give Zander 1/5 tablet of apometoclompromide to get 
the food to go down. I understand that the virus will often affect the GI 
tract, including thickening of the intestinal walls, causing food and stool 
moves very slowly through the GI tract, thus adding to the cat’s malaise, and 
reduced appetite. Also, this slow down allows more problems to develop in the 
intestinal walls (with the stool sitting in one spot for a long time). The 
apometoclopromide increases peristaltic action in the GI tract, pushing food 
down faster. I found this really helped Zander, since he was also vomiting all 
the time (including after I would spend an hour getting him to eat or syringe 
feeding him baby food). The apometoclopromide is given a little bit before 
feeding, and it worked like a charm. Once I started giving it to him, the 
vomiting stopped and stool started coming out of him normally.

Sadly, however, the meds haven’t worked for everyone. It could be how advanced 
the condition is before the meds are started, and there is also information 
online that they have identified a number of strains of the FeLV virus. I 
suspect that this might also account for the fact that some of us see a great 
improvement in our cats, while others don’t. I’m crossing my fingers for you 
and I am very happy that you have a supportive vet. That is often the first big 
problem, so thankfully, this isn’t an issue you must also deal with.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri 
Burbridge
Sent: April-05-17 1:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom

Hi everyone! I just joined your board today but I have been reading some of 
your posts since last week.

About 2 months ago we adopted our first FELV cat Violet. 2 weeks later we also 
adopted her brother Mo. They are amazing, sweet, affectionate cats and we love 
them so much!

Vi is eating every thing in sight, healthy, happy and very playful but poor Mo 
has really struggled. He lost an eye at 4 months old and is only 5.5lbs. He had 
a respiratory infection and teeth pulled before he came home with us. The 
rescue told us they didn't think he had long to live but wanted him to have a 
home if we would take him.

Fast forward 6 weeks and he's been back to their vet twice for tooth roots and 
non healing gums and to ours when he was obviously in terrible pain while 
eating. She found sores on his palate and ran bloodwork to check for anemia. I 
got the bad news last Thurs that he is severely anemic and there is nothing we 
can do beyond what we were doing (clavamox, prednisone, buprenorphine) and I 
was devastated... until I finally came across your archives in an exhaustive 
search on Friday.

First, thank you all for sharing, we would have no hope for sweet Mo if it 
weren't for you. I talked to his vet Sat who hadn't heard of using Winstrol. 
She agreed to at least switch him to Doxy and research it. I was s

[Felvtalk] New FELV mom

[Sheri Burbridge]

Hi everyone! I just joined your board today but I have been reading some of
your posts since last week.

About 2 months ago we adopted our first FELV cat Violet. 2 weeks later we
also adopted her brother Mo. They are amazing, sweet, affectionate cats and
we love them so much!

Vi is eating every thing in sight, healthy, happy and very playful but poor
Mo has really struggled. He lost an eye at 4 months old and is only 5.5lbs.
He had a respiratory infection and teeth pulled before he came home with
us. The rescue told us they didn't think he had long to live but wanted him
to have a home if we would take him.

Fast forward 6 weeks and he's been back to their vet twice for tooth roots
and non healing gums and to ours when he was obviously in terrible pain
while eating. She found sores on his palate and ran bloodwork to check for
anemia. I got the bad news last Thurs that he is severely anemic and there
is nothing we can do beyond what we were doing (clavamox, prednisone,
buprenorphine) and I was devastated... until I finally came across your
archives in an exhaustive search on Friday.

First, thank you all for sharing, we would have no hope for sweet Mo if it
weren't for you. I talked to his vet Sat who hadn't heard of using
Winstrol. She agreed to at least switch him to Doxy and research it. I was
shocked Yesterday to get a call from her saying she would prescribe it for
me!!

Luckily, she was having the Doxy compound into a liquid for me and after
calling all over, that pharmacy was able to order the Stanozolol. I was
able to add the steroid to our Doxy/Pred that we were already doing.

I just wanted to ask everyone what their experience has been with this. I
know some saw great results, others, not so much. Today Mo was very
lethargic and wouldn't eat in the AM but when I came home at lunch he ate
quite a bit (for him).

His number was 10 last week (I'm not sure if that's just rbc's or not) so I
hope I was able to get him the meds in time.

Thank you again for the info, it's the only thing that has given me hope to
save Mo!

Sheri
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Re: [Felvtalk] New Baby

[Rachel Dagner]

She sounds beautiful! I have one in my neighborhood that sounds just like her, 
pure white, with one green and one blue eye. Both the most beautiful colors you 
can imagine. I hope you get her soon. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 17, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Amani Oakley  wrote:
> 
> I don’t know Rachel. The shelter that has her is a couple of hours from me, 
> and they are still trying to arrange transportation. They did send photos 
> though, and she is a pure white beauty with green AND blue eyes. I am anxious 
> to have her join my troupe.
>  
> Amani
>  
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Rachel Dagner
> Sent: May-17-16 8:02 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doxy
>  
> Amani when are you getting your cancer kitty? I am so sad we can't do 
> pictures here. I want to see everyone and their babies! 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 17, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Amani Oakley  wrote:
> 
> Hi Margo – I just sent a far more detailed email before I saw yours. It 
> references a scientific study on this very issue – use of doxycycline in 
> dengue fever, but also references use of it in other viral infections caused 
> by herpes.
>  
> As I mentioned in my earlier emails, I was well aware that antibiotics 
> obviously don’t usually work on viruses, but the tetracyclines are special. 
> They don’t KILL viruses, but instead, help to block their replication.
>  
> Amani
>  
>  
>  
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
> Sent: May-17-16 5:23 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doxy
>  
> 
> 
> Actually, you're both right. Doxy is an antibiotic, but also has properties 
> that prevent replication of the virus that cause dengue fever, and is being 
> used in some trials for HIV. 
> 
> So, anti-bacterial, anti-inflammatory and now possibly anti-viral. You might 
> find this interesting;
> 
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9922979
> 
> I've used the "fish drugs" in a pinch, but they need to be made into a liquid 
> to get correct distribution and dosage, and I do better with pills/capsules. 
> Plus, I don't quite trust them . Just  my paranoia, I know people who have 
> used them successfully many times.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Margo
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Jane Gannon 
> Sent: May 17, 2016 4:43 PM 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] doxy 
> 
> 
> 
> Doxycycline ia an antibiotic for bacterial infections, not for viral 
> infections.  It works by interferring with the normal growth cycle of the 
> bacteria preventing them from  reproducing and allowing the body to fight off 
> the infection.  It is used against mycoplasma including mycoplasma 
> haemofelis, whcih is a blood parasite that causes anemia and death in cats   
> I have had a couple of cats die from it and a couple that I have saved.   
> This disease is transmitted by fleas so it is important to use flea products 
> on our cats.  Doxy should be given with food or on a full stomach to reduce 
> chance of vomiting.  It is suggested that you give a syringe of water after 
> pilling because it is possible for the tablets to become stuck in the 
> esophagus which can cause irritaftion or scarring and can make it difficult 
> for your cat to swallow.  I crush it and mix it with water and syringe it. 
>  
> In the book "Secrets of a vet tech-the guide to low cost pet care when the 
> cupboard is bare" by J C Farris, she tells that you can use fish meds on cats 
> and purchase them on line or in some pet stores without a script  This 
> includes doxy (fish doxy), amoxicillan (fish mox), metronidazole (fish zole), 
> clindamycin (fish cin), cephalexen (fish flex), ciprofloxacin (fish flox) and 
> others.  This is the same exact medication for dogs and cats.  She has alot 
> of other great ideas in this book. Dosages for these medications for cats can 
> be found on line. 
>  
> I just had my 5 yr old positive, Tootsie, stop eating and drinking.  She had 
> vomited for a couple of days before.  She had no fever and no symptoms of 
> upper respiratory so I didn't want to start antibiotics. I tried everytlhing 
> to get her to eat.  Then I remembered pepcid ac was prescribed by a vet years 
> ago for another cat (not a positive) with the same symptoms, so I tried it on 
> Tootsie.  Four days later she is looking for food and eating everything I 
> give her.  This is also used for kidney cats that loose their appetite. 
>  
> Now I am going to try pepcid ac on my older positive cat, Finn, who is 
> recovering from a seizure and temporary blindness.  She is not eating well 
> and I remember before she had her seizure she had vomited for a couple of 
> days and was already not eating well. I will let you know if it works.
>  
> Jane
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Re: [Felvtalk] New Baby

[Amani Oakley]

I don’t know Rachel. The shelter that has her is a couple of hours from me, and 
they are still trying to arrange transportation. They did send photos though, 
and she is a pure white beauty with green AND blue eyes. I am anxious to have 
her join my troupe.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel 
Dagner
Sent: May-17-16 8:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doxy

Amani when are you getting your cancer kitty? I am so sad we can't do pictures 
here. I want to see everyone and their babies!

Sent from my iPhone

On May 17, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Amani Oakley 
mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Hi Margo – I just sent a far more detailed email before I saw yours. It 
references a scientific study on this very issue – use of doxycycline in dengue 
fever, but also references use of it in other viral infections caused by herpes.

As I mentioned in my earlier emails, I was well aware that antibiotics 
obviously don’t usually work on viruses, but the tetracyclines are special. 
They don’t KILL viruses, but instead, help to block their replication.

Amani



From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: May-17-16 5:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doxy



Actually, you're both right. Doxy is an antibiotic, but also has properties 
that prevent replication of the virus that cause dengue fever, and is being 
used in some trials for HIV.

So, anti-bacterial, anti-inflammatory and now possibly anti-viral. You might 
find this interesting;

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9922979

I've used the "fish drugs" in a pinch, but they need to be made into a liquid 
to get correct distribution and dosage, and I do better with pills/capsules. 
Plus, I don't quite trust them . Just  my paranoia, I know people who have used 
them successfully many times.

HTH,

Margo
-Original Message-
From: Jane Gannon
Sent: May 17, 2016 4:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] doxy



Doxycycline ia an antibiotic for bacterial infections, not for viral 
infections.  It works by interferring with the normal growth cycle of the 
bacteria preventing them from  reproducing and allowing the body to fight off 
the infection.  It is used against mycoplasma including mycoplasma haemofelis, 
whcih is a blood parasite that causes anemia and death in cats   I have had a 
couple of cats die from it and a couple that I have saved.   This disease is 
transmitted by fleas so it is important to use flea products on our cats.  Doxy 
should be given with food or on a full stomach to reduce chance of vomiting.  
It is suggested that you give a syringe of water after pilling because it is 
possible for the tablets to become stuck in the esophagus which can cause 
irritaftion or scarring and can make it difficult for your cat to swallow.  I 
crush it and mix it with water and syringe it.

In the book "Secrets of a vet tech-the guide to low cost pet care when the 
cupboard is bare" by J C Farris, she tells that you can use fish meds on cats 
and purchase them on line or in some pet stores without a script  This includes 
doxy (fish doxy), amoxicillan (fish mox), metronidazole (fish zole), 
clindamycin (fish cin), cephalexen (fish flex), ciprofloxacin (fish flox) and 
others.  This is the same exact medication for dogs and cats.  She has alot of 
other great ideas in this book. Dosages for these medications for cats can be 
found on line.

I just had my 5 yr old positive, Tootsie, stop eating and drinking.  She had 
vomited for a couple of days before.  She had no fever and no symptoms of upper 
respiratory so I didn't want to start antibiotics. I tried everytlhing to get 
her to eat.  Then I remembered pepcid ac was prescribed by a vet years ago for 
another cat (not a positive) with the same symptoms, so I tried it on Tootsie.  
Four days later she is looking for food and eating everything I give her.  This 
is also used for kidney cats that loose their appetite.

Now I am going to try pepcid ac on my older positive cat, Finn, who is 
recovering from a seizure and temporary blindness.  She is not eating well and 
I remember before she had her seizure she had vomited for a couple of days and 
was already not eating well. I will let you know if it works.

Jane

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to the group

[dlgegg]

First, give them lots of love, security and a stress free life.  Then medicine 
if necessary.
Especially stress, it weakens the immune system.

 Jennifer Lewis  wrote: 
> LOVE the names!
> I recommend starting them on Maitake d-fraction. The + kitties in particular 
> as it is anti-cancer, but all is ok too. We even take it ourselves. Our Brynn 
> just lays down and laps it. About 7-10 drops in a syringe of water.
> Jen L
> On Sep 21, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Sabrina Doyle wrote:
> 
> > Hi all my name is Sabrina. 1.5 years ago we decided to adopt a new kitten. 
> > Mad Max, came from a spay clinic/rescue, very reputable. Our 2 Dizzy, 11 
> > with issues an a seizure disorder, and The Weasel age 3 at the time. All 
> > testing of Max mom was negative. Got a call 6months later his brother got 
> > sick and tested positive for FELV. The woman who surrendered the litter 
> > pointed them to the wrong Mother. Max will be 2 Feb. 1 and has tested 
> > positive twice. Since then we adopted Raven who we knew was positive. We 
> > have lots of love but I am here to learn so I can give them the best care. 
> > Thanks for taking the time to read.
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Re: [Felvtalk] New to the group

[Jennifer Lewis]

LOVE the names!
I recommend starting them on Maitake d-fraction. The + kitties in particular as 
it is anti-cancer, but all is ok too. We even take it ourselves. Our Brynn just 
lays down and laps it. About 7-10 drops in a syringe of water.
Jen L
On Sep 21, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Sabrina Doyle wrote:

> Hi all my name is Sabrina. 1.5 years ago we decided to adopt a new kitten. 
> Mad Max, came from a spay clinic/rescue, very reputable. Our 2 Dizzy, 11 with 
> issues an a seizure disorder, and The Weasel age 3 at the time. All testing 
> of Max mom was negative. Got a call 6months later his brother got sick and 
> tested positive for FELV. The woman who surrendered the litter pointed them 
> to the wrong Mother. Max will be 2 Feb. 1 and has tested positive twice. 
> Since then we adopted Raven who we knew was positive. We have lots of love 
> but I am here to learn so I can give them the best care. Thanks for taking 
> the time to read.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Harley has a new friend

[dlgegg]

I HAVE HAD ANNIE FOR OVER 8 YEARS NOW.  SHE IS STILL HEALTHYAND CONTRARY AS 
EVER.  SHE WAS AN ONLY CAT FOR THE FIRST 4 YEARS AND THEN HER OWNER BECAMSE 
VERY ILL AND WAS IN HOSPICE SO SHE BEGAN LOOKING FOR A HOME THAT WOULD SPOIL 
HER LIKE SHE HAD.  ANNIT SPENT MOST OF HER DAYS ON HER BED.  NOW, SHE THI8NKS I 
SHOULD SPEND ALL OF MY TIME IN BED WITH HER.  SHE ALSO WILL NOT ALLOW ANY 
OTHERS ON HER BED.  NOT NTIL SHE IS ASLEEP THAT IS.
SHE HAS NEVER SHOWN ANY SIGNS OF FELV AND NO ONE ELSE HAS CONTRACTED IT FROM 
HER.

 Marsha  wrote: 
> Harley was a FeLV+  kitten of 3.5 to 4 months old when I got him 4 years 
> ago.  You just never know.   My biggest fear is that Harley's FeLV may 
> soon accelerate to the next stage, but what if it doesn't, and he was 
> alone for 3 years?
> 
> Marsha
> 
> On 9/28/2014 7:51 PM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:
> > Congrats Marsha!
> >
> > I hope all works out well.. Our Brynn has been so lonely since we lost 
> > Smoosh, so I'd love to hear how it all goes.. We entertain getting her a 
> > new bud, but so far, all the +s that come our way are kittens, and given 
> > the mort rate, we are just too scared to go there after Smoosh... It's sad 
> > but the hole in our hearts is still too raw for us to think about a 
> > youngster (although we are such suckers when there's one in need)
> >
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Harley has a new friend

[dlgegg]

THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THAT NAME "HARLEY".  I HAVE ONE.  HE THINKS HE IS KING 
OF THE HILL, HIS DOES NOT STICK SO NO NEED TO COVER (SISTER DEE DOES IT FOR 
HIM).

 Maya D'Alessio  wrote: 
> Good luck!  We just brought a new cat home to keep merlot company since
> yang died of felv in June. We are keeping them isolated, the first two days
> were some growls through the door at each other, but it's been two weeks
> now and they pay under the door.  We're keeping the new girl, zoe, separate
> for so long so she can fight off anything she's carrying from the shelter
> (coccidia and uri confirmed) and so the vaccinations we gave her can build
> up immunity in her system.
>  On Sep 28, 2014 1:58 PM, "Marsha"  wrote:
> 
> > My FeLV+ cat Harley has been alone since his buddy Milkdud died May 20.  I
> > have seen many FIV+ cats up for adoption during that time, but there
> > haven't been any local FeLV positives.  I  found one at a shelter nearly 2
> > hours away and brought him home yesterday.  He is currently in an isolation
> > cage up on a table.  The shelter only tested him once, with a Snap/ELISA
> > test.  I probably should have waited until Monday and paid for their local
> > vet to do an IFA, but he is here now.  I'll call my vet 1st thing in the
> > morning to get him in for a new test.  The new boy's name is Brock, and he
> > is all black, about 3 years old.
> >
> > Harley is fascinated by the new boy, but a tad jealous, and maybe even
> > upset that it wasn't Milkdud.  While I was getting Brock's crate situated
> > in the isolation cage, Harley snatched Brock's mouse toy and ran off with
> > it.  Poor Brock never even got to play with it!  But the shelter said he
> > doesn't play much, preferring to be petted and held.  That could be an
> > issue when Brock is released from the cage, if he ignores Harley's attempt
> > to play and climbs in my arms instead.  In the meantime, I am giving Harley
> > lots of extra attention and playing with him.
> >
> > Marsha
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Harley has a new friend

[Kamila Piotrowska]

Hi to All,

I do currently have FeLV positive Black Girl One year old for adoption as
well as 4 month old Siamese mix girl that is FIV + ,
i'm with Volunteer only rescue group, there is no many volunteers that are
willing to take on this kind of responsibility for positive cats and keep
them totally separaated. both girl are spayed and up to date with their
shots if any one is interested in please email me ill send you pictures and
more information, i'm in IL Darien but willing to go fare if only good home
can be found for them. Thank you

Marta.

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Marsha  wrote:

> My FeLV+ cat Harley has been alone since his buddy Milkdud died May 20.  I
> have seen many FIV+ cats up for adoption during that time, but there
> haven't been any local FeLV positives.  I  found one at a shelter nearly 2
> hours away and brought him home yesterday.  He is currently in an isolation
> cage up on a table.  The shelter only tested him once, with a Snap/ELISA
> test.  I probably should have waited until Monday and paid for their local
> vet to do an IFA, but he is here now.  I'll call my vet 1st thing in the
> morning to get him in for a new test.  The new boy's name is Brock, and he
> is all black, about 3 years old.
>
> Harley is fascinated by the new boy, but a tad jealous, and maybe even
> upset that it wasn't Milkdud.  While I was getting Brock's crate situated
> in the isolation cage, Harley snatched Brock's mouse toy and ran off with
> it.  Poor Brock never even got to play with it!  But the shelter said he
> doesn't play much, preferring to be petted and held.  That could be an
> issue when Brock is released from the cage, if he ignores Harley's attempt
> to play and climbs in my arms instead.  In the meantime, I am giving Harley
> lots of extra attention and playing with him.
>
> Marsha
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Harley has a new friend

[Marsha]

Harley was a FeLV+  kitten of 3.5 to 4 months old when I got him 4 years 
ago.  You just never know.   My biggest fear is that Harley's FeLV may 
soon accelerate to the next stage, but what if it doesn't, and he was 
alone for 3 years?


Marsha

On 9/28/2014 7:51 PM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:

Congrats Marsha!

I hope all works out well.. Our Brynn has been so lonely since we lost Smoosh, 
so I'd love to hear how it all goes.. We entertain getting her a new bud, but 
so far, all the +s that come our way are kittens, and given the mort rate, we 
are just too scared to go there after Smoosh... It's sad but the hole in our 
hearts is still too raw for us to think about a youngster (although we are such 
suckers when there's one in need)




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Re: [Felvtalk] Harley has a new friend

[Maya D'Alessio]

I will say Jen, that although bringing in Zoe has been hard, and brought up
lots of feelings about Yang, having another furry face to love has been
very comforting.

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Jennifer Lewis  wrote:

> Congrats Marsha!
>
> I hope all works out well.. Our Brynn has been so lonely since we lost
> Smoosh, so I'd love to hear how it all goes.. We entertain getting her a
> new bud, but so far, all the +s that come our way are kittens, and given
> the mort rate, we are just too scared to go there after Smoosh... It's sad
> but the hole in our hearts is still too raw for us to think about a
> youngster (although we are such suckers when there's one in need)
>
> Jen
>
> On Sep 28, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Marsha wrote:
>
> > My FeLV+ cat Harley has been alone since his buddy Milkdud died May 20.
> I have seen many FIV+ cats up for adoption during that time, but there
> haven't been any local FeLV positives.  I  found one at a shelter nearly 2
> hours away and brought him home yesterday.  He is currently in an isolation
> cage up on a table.  The shelter only tested him once, with a Snap/ELISA
> test.  I probably should have waited until Monday and paid for their local
> vet to do an IFA, but he is here now.  I'll call my vet 1st thing in the
> morning to get him in for a new test.  The new boy's name is Brock, and he
> is all black, about 3 years old.
> >
> > Harley is fascinated by the new boy, but a tad jealous, and maybe even
> upset that it wasn't Milkdud.  While I was getting Brock's crate situated
> in the isolation cage, Harley snatched Brock's mouse toy and ran off with
> it.  Poor Brock never even got to play with it!  But the shelter said he
> doesn't play much, preferring to be petted and held.  That could be an
> issue when Brock is released from the cage, if he ignores Harley's attempt
> to play and climbs in my arms instead.  In the meantime, I am giving Harley
> lots of extra attention and playing with him.
> >
> > Marsha
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Harley has a new friend

[Jennifer Lewis]

Congrats Marsha! 

I hope all works out well.. Our Brynn has been so lonely since we lost Smoosh, 
so I'd love to hear how it all goes.. We entertain getting her a new bud, but 
so far, all the +s that come our way are kittens, and given the mort rate, we 
are just too scared to go there after Smoosh... It's sad but the hole in our 
hearts is still too raw for us to think about a youngster (although we are such 
suckers when there's one in need)

Jen

On Sep 28, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Marsha wrote:

> My FeLV+ cat Harley has been alone since his buddy Milkdud died May 20.  I 
> have seen many FIV+ cats up for adoption during that time, but there haven't 
> been any local FeLV positives.  I  found one at a shelter nearly 2 hours away 
> and brought him home yesterday.  He is currently in an isolation cage up on a 
> table.  The shelter only tested him once, with a Snap/ELISA test.  I probably 
> should have waited until Monday and paid for their local vet to do an IFA, 
> but he is here now.  I'll call my vet 1st thing in the morning to get him in 
> for a new test.  The new boy's name is Brock, and he is all black, about 3 
> years old.
> 
> Harley is fascinated by the new boy, but a tad jealous, and maybe even upset 
> that it wasn't Milkdud.  While I was getting Brock's crate situated in the 
> isolation cage, Harley snatched Brock's mouse toy and ran off with it.  Poor 
> Brock never even got to play with it!  But the shelter said he doesn't play 
> much, preferring to be petted and held.  That could be an issue when Brock is 
> released from the cage, if he ignores Harley's attempt to play and climbs in 
> my arms instead.  In the meantime, I am giving Harley lots of extra attention 
> and playing with him.
> 
> Marsha
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Harley has a new friend

[Maya D'Alessio]

Good luck!  We just brought a new cat home to keep merlot company since
yang died of felv in June. We are keeping them isolated, the first two days
were some growls through the door at each other, but it's been two weeks
now and they pay under the door.  We're keeping the new girl, zoe, separate
for so long so she can fight off anything she's carrying from the shelter
(coccidia and uri confirmed) and so the vaccinations we gave her can build
up immunity in her system.
 On Sep 28, 2014 1:58 PM, "Marsha"  wrote:

> My FeLV+ cat Harley has been alone since his buddy Milkdud died May 20.  I
> have seen many FIV+ cats up for adoption during that time, but there
> haven't been any local FeLV positives.  I  found one at a shelter nearly 2
> hours away and brought him home yesterday.  He is currently in an isolation
> cage up on a table.  The shelter only tested him once, with a Snap/ELISA
> test.  I probably should have waited until Monday and paid for their local
> vet to do an IFA, but he is here now.  I'll call my vet 1st thing in the
> morning to get him in for a new test.  The new boy's name is Brock, and he
> is all black, about 3 years old.
>
> Harley is fascinated by the new boy, but a tad jealous, and maybe even
> upset that it wasn't Milkdud.  While I was getting Brock's crate situated
> in the isolation cage, Harley snatched Brock's mouse toy and ran off with
> it.  Poor Brock never even got to play with it!  But the shelter said he
> doesn't play much, preferring to be petted and held.  That could be an
> issue when Brock is released from the cage, if he ignores Harley's attempt
> to play and climbs in my arms instead.  In the meantime, I am giving Harley
> lots of extra attention and playing with him.
>
> Marsha
>
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[Felvtalk] Harley has a new friend

[Marsha]

My FeLV+ cat Harley has been alone since his buddy Milkdud died May 20.  
I have seen many FIV+ cats up for adoption during that time, but there 
haven't been any local FeLV positives.  I  found one at a shelter nearly 
2 hours away and brought him home yesterday.  He is currently in an 
isolation cage up on a table.  The shelter only tested him once, with a 
Snap/ELISA test.  I probably should have waited until Monday and paid 
for their local vet to do an IFA, but he is here now.  I'll call my vet 
1st thing in the morning to get him in for a new test.  The new boy's 
name is Brock, and he is all black, about 3 years old.


Harley is fascinated by the new boy, but a tad jealous, and maybe even 
upset that it wasn't Milkdud.  While I was getting Brock's crate 
situated in the isolation cage, Harley snatched Brock's mouse toy and 
ran off with it.  Poor Brock never even got to play with it!  But the 
shelter said he doesn't play much, preferring to be petted and held.  
That could be an issue when Brock is released from the cage, if he 
ignores Harley's attempt to play and climbs in my arms instead.  In the 
meantime, I am giving Harley lots of extra attention and playing with him.


Marsha


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Re: [Felvtalk] New & have question

[dlgegg]

i HAVE STARTED OIL PULLING FOR MYSELF WITH COCONUT OIL.  IT IS A GOOD 
ANTIBACTERIAL, ETC. AND MIGHT HELP YOUR CAT.  I USE A TABLESPOON EACH DAY,  IT 
TASTES GOOD AND MY HARLEY ALWAYS WANTS TO LICK MY FINGERS AFTERWARDS.  (I JUST 
SCOOP A FINGER FULL (ABOUT 1 TABLESPOON) AND PUT IT IN MY MOUTH.)
 Lance  wrote: 
> I don’t know of any supplements that are specifically geared toward oral 
> health. Someone else may have some helpful info. I know that CET makes pet 
> dental products, including a water additive. Googling for them should bring 
> up their site. I believe they’re owned by Virbac. 
> 
> After she tested positive, I gave my FeLV+ girl interferon alpha and DMG 
> (both are general immune system boosters) for most of her life. I often gave 
> her Prescription Diet t/d as a “treat”. We rarely had any gum or teeth 
> issues, though she did need several cleanings. The t/d would not be good for 
> a kitty already dealing with any mouth pain.
> 
> Best wishes for you and the calico kitten,
> 
> Lance
> 
> On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Susan Grimes  wrote:
> 
> > Hi everyone,
> > I have a 4 month old calico that just retested for a FIV+ original test and 
> > this week she tested FIV- and FeLV+.  I have 7 other cats and have done 
> > rescue/foster work the last 3 yrs.  We are waiting on IFA results now.  I 
> > was reading the archives and read something about supplements to promote 
> > oral health/for stomatitis (?) now I can't seem to find that post.  Can 
> > someone help me with that info?  Am waiting on labs now to decide on course 
> > of treatment.  Currently on Immunostim drops and Lysine treats. 
> > Thanks, Susan
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Re: [Felvtalk] New & have question

[Marsha]

Hi Susan,

It's not a supplement, but I think I posted a link a while back about 
the use of Virbagen Omega in FeLV+ cats with stomatitis:


http://www.dentistvet.com/docs/Gingivostomatitis-Veterinary-InfoApr2012.pdf

I haven't tried it yet, but may consider after Harley's next checkup.  
Last one he was showing what looked to be early stomatitis, but all his 
bloodwork was great, and it doesn't bother him to eat either kibble or 
canned.  Or the occasional mouse that gets in the garage.  Currently 
doing only Vetri-DMG and Vita-chews.


Marsha

On 8/11/2014 9:06 PM, Susan Grimes wrote:

Hi everyone,
I have a 4 month old calico that just retested for a FIV+ original 
test and this week she tested FIV- and FeLV+.  I have 7 other cats and 
have done rescue/foster work the last 3 yrs. We are waiting on IFA 
results now.  I was reading the archives and read something about 
supplements to promote oral health/for stomatitis (?) now I can't seem 
to find that post. Can someone help me with that info?  Am waiting on 
labs now to decide on course of treatment.  Currently on Immunostim 
drops and Lysine treats.

Thanks, Susan



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Re: [Felvtalk] New & have question

[Kelley]

Not specifically for oral health but my holistic vet has both my felv+ kitties 
on standard process veterinary formula feline immune support tablets. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Susan Grimes  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> I have a 4 month old calico that just retested for a FIV+ original test and 
> this week she tested FIV- and FeLV+.  I have 7 other cats and have done 
> rescue/foster work the last 3 yrs.  We are waiting on IFA results now.  I was 
> reading the archives and read something about supplements to promote oral 
> health/for stomatitis (?) now I can't seem to find that post.  Can someone 
> help me with that info?  Am waiting on labs now to decide on course of 
> treatment.  Currently on Immunostim drops and Lysine treats. 
> Thanks, Susan
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Re: [Felvtalk] New & have question

[Lance]

I don’t know of any supplements that are specifically geared toward oral 
health. Someone else may have some helpful info. I know that CET makes pet 
dental products, including a water additive. Googling for them should bring up 
their site. I believe they’re owned by Virbac. 

After she tested positive, I gave my FeLV+ girl interferon alpha and DMG (both 
are general immune system boosters) for most of her life. I often gave her 
Prescription Diet t/d as a “treat”. We rarely had any gum or teeth issues, 
though she did need several cleanings. The t/d would not be good for a kitty 
already dealing with any mouth pain.

Best wishes for you and the calico kitten,

Lance

On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Susan Grimes  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> I have a 4 month old calico that just retested for a FIV+ original test and 
> this week she tested FIV- and FeLV+.  I have 7 other cats and have done 
> rescue/foster work the last 3 yrs.  We are waiting on IFA results now.  I was 
> reading the archives and read something about supplements to promote oral 
> health/for stomatitis (?) now I can't seem to find that post.  Can someone 
> help me with that info?  Am waiting on labs now to decide on course of 
> treatment.  Currently on Immunostim drops and Lysine treats. 
> Thanks, Susan
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[Felvtalk] New & have question

[Susan Grimes]

Hi everyone,
I have a 4 month old calico that just retested for a FIV+ original test and 
this week she tested FIV- and FeLV+.  I have 7 other cats and have done 
rescue/foster work the last 3 yrs.  We are waiting on IFA results now.  I was 
reading the archives and read something about supplements to promote oral 
health/for stomatitis (?) now I can't seem to find that post.  Can someone help 
me with that info?  Am waiting on labs now to decide on course of treatment.  
Currently on Immunostim drops and Lysine treats.  
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Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[Kelley]

Michelle,

Unfortunately I have done that many times as well as getting folks with a lot 
of friends (preacher friend, friend in the music industry, etc, post it). I 
used to be so good at fundraising but apparently the Facebook era has left me 
behind. That's part of the frustration. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2014, at 11:39 AM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> No, I meant posting it on your own Facebook page and emailing your friends 
> and family the link instead of just posting it on cat groups. Have you done 
> that? I have just found that this brings more money for these kind of things 
> when you're asking people who know you but do not have a gaggle of animals 
> themselves to support or run their own rescues. 
> 
> Michelle
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kelley 
> To: felvtalk 
> Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 11:12 am
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
> 
> Hi Michelle, 
> 
> They have a fundraising page on youcaring.com.  Like I said I can't even get 
> folks to share it.   I can make them a Facebook page. I'm just very very 
> discouraged.  It has been shared 19 times in over a week. 
> 
> I don't fault anyone for not giving. Just explaining harsh realities. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 15, 2014, at 8:31 AM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> I don't think it's that people don't care. If you are mostly asking and 
>> sharing the link with other people on lists like this, it's that most of us 
>> are flat out and caring for many animals too. 
>> 
>> Do you have a Facebook page with a bunch of friends and family? If so, look 
>> at Go Fund Me online. A friend of mine could not afford to get an 
>> echocardiogram for her cat and set up a page on Go Fund Me and then sent a 
>> link with an explanation to all her friends and family and posted in on 
>> Facebook. She raised the whole thing in 2 days. People she had not seen in 
>> years donated. You are more likely to get donations from people who like 
>> animals but are not rescuers themselves (and therefore are not already 
>> spending all their money on animals).
>> 
>> Michelle
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kelley 
>> To: felvtalk 
>> Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 8:39 am
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
>> 
>> The problem is with the cared for life. I flat cannot afford to care for 
>> them. I've tried to raise money for their care. I spent $1000 on vet bills 
>> last month. I have 3 left to test and vaccinate and I can't even do that. I 
>> can't even get people to share their fundraising link, let alone donate.  No 
>> one cares.
>> 
>> I had a special needs cat awhile back with a hereditarily heart condition.  
>> I was able to give her good care - visits to cardiologist, meds, trips to 
>> vet for constant ear infections and uri. That was when I was working. I'm on 
>> ssdi now and things are much different. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:47 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a 
>>> couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for 
>>> my sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared 
>>> for, life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and 
>>> other medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages 
>>> which some choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice.
>>> 
>>> I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for 
>>> who knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our 
>>> babies need. The time you have is all good then :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: dlgegg 
>>> To: felvtalk 
>>> Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
>>> 
>>> Don't euthanize!  I had 2 positives.  One died from complications early on 
>>> in 
>>> her life:  raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very 
>>> healthy 
>>> until last month of her life.  She developed a uri and in a positive that  
>>> or 
>>> any infection is not good.  The other one is still going at 8 years, 
>>> healthy as 
>>> can be.  Who k
>>> nows, yours may live a long life also.  My positive and negatives have 
>>> a

Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[gbl...@aristotle.net]

I put it on my FB page. However it's good to put the location and I'm not sure 
I did that so will post again w the location. Alabama, right? I can look it up 
too-

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> On Mar 16, 2014, at 11:39 AM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> No, I meant posting it on your own Facebook page and emailing your friends 
> and family the link instead of just posting it on cat groups. Have you done 
> that? I have just found that this brings more money for these kind of things 
> when you're asking people who know you but do not have a gaggle of animals 
> themselves to support or run their own rescues. 
> 
> Michelle
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kelley 
> To: felvtalk 
> Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 11:12 am
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
> 
> Hi Michelle, 
> 
> They have a fundraising page on youcaring.com.  Like I said I can't even get 
> folks to share it.   I can make them a Facebook page. I'm just very very 
> discouraged.  It has been shared 19 times in over a week. 
> 
> I don't fault anyone for not giving. Just explaining harsh realities. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 15, 2014, at 8:31 AM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> I don't think it's that people don't care. If you are mostly asking and 
>> sharing the link with other people on lists like this, it's that most of us 
>> are flat out and caring for many animals too. 
>> 
>> Do you have a Facebook page with a bunch of friends and family? If so, look 
>> at Go Fund Me online. A friend of mine could not afford to get an 
>> echocardiogram for her cat and set up a page on Go Fund Me and then sent a 
>> link with an explanation to all her friends and family and posted in on 
>> Facebook. She raised the whole thing in 2 days. People she had not seen in 
>> years donated. You are more likely to get donations from people who like 
>> animals but are not rescuers themselves (and therefore are not already 
>> spending all their money on animals).
>> 
>> Michelle
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kelley 
>> To: felvtalk 
>> Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 8:39 am
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
>> 
>> The problem is with the cared for life. I flat cannot afford to care for 
>> them. I've tried to raise money for their care. I spent $1000 on vet bills 
>> last month. I have 3 left to test and vaccinate and I can't even do that. I 
>> can't even get people to share their fundraising link, let alone donate.  No 
>> one cares.
>> 
>> I had a special needs cat awhile back with a hereditarily heart condition.  
>> I was able to give her good care - visits to cardiologist, meds, trips to 
>> vet for constant ear infections and uri. That was when I was working. I'm on 
>> ssdi now and things are much different. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:47 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a 
>>> couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for 
>>> my sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared 
>>> for, life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and 
>>> other medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages 
>>> which some choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice.
>>> 
>>> I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for 
>>> who knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our 
>>> babies need. The time you have is all good then :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: dlgegg 
>>> To: felvtalk 
>>> Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
>>> 
>>> Don't euthanize!  I had 2 positives.  One died from complications early on 
>>> in 
>>> her life:  raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very 
>>> healthy 
>>> until last month of her life.  She developed a uri and in a positive that  
>>> or 
>>> any infection is not good.  The other one is still going at 8 years, 
>>> healthy as 
>>> can be.  Who k
>>> nows, yours may live a long life also.  My positive and negatives have 
>>> always 
>>> been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations.
>>>  Kelley 

Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[lernermichelle]

No, I meant posting it on your own Facebook page and emailing your friends and 
family the link instead of just posting it on cat groups. Have you done that? I 
have just found that this brings more money for these kind of things when 
you're asking people who know you but do not have a gaggle of animals 
themselves to support or run their own rescues. 

Michelle

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Kelley 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 11:12 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties



Hi Michelle, 


They have a fundraising page on youcaring.com.  Like I said I can't even get 
folks to share it.   I can make them a Facebook page. I'm just very very 
discouraged.  It has been shared 19 times in over a week. 


I don't fault anyone for not giving. Just explaining harsh realities. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 15, 2014, at 8:31 AM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:



I don't think it's that people don't care. If you are mostly asking and sharing 
the link with other people on lists like this, it's that most of us are flat 
out and caring for many animals too. 

Do you have a Facebook page with a bunch of friends and family? If so, look at 
Go Fund Me online. A friend of mine could not afford to get an echocardiogram 
for her cat and set up a page on Go Fund Me and then sent a link with an 
explanation to all her friends and family and posted in on Facebook. She raised 
the whole thing in 2 days. People she had not seen in years donated. You are 
more likely to get donations from people who like animals but are not rescuers 
themselves (and therefore are not already spending all their money on animals).

Michelle

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Kelley 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 8:39 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties



The problem is with the cared for life. I flat cannot afford to care for them. 
I've tried to raise money for their care. I spent $1000 on vet bills last 
month. I have 3 left to test and vaccinate and I can't even do that. I can't 
even get people to share their fundraising link, let alone donate.  No one 
cares.


I had a special needs cat awhile back with a hereditarily heart condition.  I 
was able to give her good care - visits to cardiologist, meds, trips to vet for 
constant ear infections and uri. That was when I was working. I'm on ssdi now 
and things are much different. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:47 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:



Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a 
couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for my 
sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared for, 
life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and other 
medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages which some 
choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice.

I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for who 
knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our babies 
need. The time you have is all good then :)

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: dlgegg 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties


Don't euthanize!  I had 2 positives.  One died from complications early on in 
her life:  raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very healthy 
until last month of her life.  She developed a uri and in a positive that  or 
any infection is not good.  The other one is still going at 8 years, healthy as 
can be.  Who k
nows, yours may live a long life also.  My positive and negatives have always 
been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations.
 Kelley  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, approx 
one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but has 
mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested pos 
and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   
> 
> We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better or 
worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive kitties 
isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) 
negatives?   I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that.
> 
> I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is 
crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. 
Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it.  Unfortunately it turned 
out pos as well.  The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had 
quite a few turn neg. 
> 
> We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of my 
own pocket last month and can'

Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[Kelley]

Yes that's correct. If you could share it I'd appreciate it

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> On Mar 15, 2014, at 10:55 AM, "gbl...@aristotle.net"  
> wrote:
> 
> So fundraising page is at 
> https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Kelley  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Michelle, 
>> 
>> They have a fundraising page on youcaring.com.  Like I said I can't even get 
>> folks to share it.   I can make them a Facebook page. I'm just very very 
>> discouraged.  It has been shared 19 times in over a week. 
>> 
>> I don't fault anyone for not giving. Just explaining harsh realities. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2014, at 8:31 AM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't think it's that people don't care. If you are mostly asking and 
>>> sharing the link with other people on lists like this, it's that most of us 
>>> are flat out and caring for many animals too. 
>>> 
>>> Do you have a Facebook page with a bunch of friends and family? If so, look 
>>> at Go Fund Me online. A friend of mine could not afford to get an 
>>> echocardiogram for her cat and set up a page on Go Fund Me and then sent a 
>>> link with an explanation to all her friends and family and posted in on 
>>> Facebook. She raised the whole thing in 2 days. People she had not seen in 
>>> years donated. You are more likely to get donations from people who like 
>>> animals but are not rescuers themselves (and therefore are not already 
>>> spending all their money on animals).
>>> 
>>> Michelle
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Kelley 
>>> To: felvtalk 
>>> Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 8:39 am
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
>>> 
>>> The problem is with the cared for life. I flat cannot afford to care for 
>>> them. I've tried to raise money for their care. I spent $1000 on vet bills 
>>> last month. I have 3 left to test and vaccinate and I can't even do that. I 
>>> can't even get people to share their fundraising link, let alone donate.  
>>> No one cares.
>>> 
>>> I had a special needs cat awhile back with a hereditarily heart condition.  
>>> I was able to give her good care - visits to cardiologist, meds, trips to 
>>> vet for constant ear infections and uri. That was when I was working. I'm 
>>> on ssdi now and things are much different. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:47 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a 
>>>> couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for 
>>>> my sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared 
>>>> for, life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and 
>>>> other medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages 
>>>> which some choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for 
>>>> who knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our 
>>>> babies need. The time you have is all good then :)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: dlgegg 
>>>> To: felvtalk 
>>>> Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am
>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
>>>> 
>>>> Don't euthanize!  I had 2 positives.  One died from complications early on 
>>>> in 
>>>> her life:  raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very 
>>>> healthy 
>>>> until last month of her life.  She developed a uri and in a positive that  
>>>> or 
>>>> any infection is not good.  The other one is still going at 8 years, 
>>>> healthy as 
>>>> can be.  Who k
>>>> nows, yours may live a long life also.  My positive and negatives have 
>>>> always 
>>>> been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations.
>>>>  Kelley  wrote: 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaug

Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[gbl...@aristotle.net]

So fundraising page is at 
https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925



Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 15, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Kelley  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michelle, 
> 
> They have a fundraising page on youcaring.com.  Like I said I can't even get 
> folks to share it.   I can make them a Facebook page. I'm just very very 
> discouraged.  It has been shared 19 times in over a week. 
> 
> I don't fault anyone for not giving. Just explaining harsh realities. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2014, at 8:31 AM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think it's that people don't care. If you are mostly asking and 
>> sharing the link with other people on lists like this, it's that most of us 
>> are flat out and caring for many animals too. 
>> 
>> Do you have a Facebook page with a bunch of friends and family? If so, look 
>> at Go Fund Me online. A friend of mine could not afford to get an 
>> echocardiogram for her cat and set up a page on Go Fund Me and then sent a 
>> link with an explanation to all her friends and family and posted in on 
>> Facebook. She raised the whole thing in 2 days. People she had not seen in 
>> years donated. You are more likely to get donations from people who like 
>> animals but are not rescuers themselves (and therefore are not already 
>> spending all their money on animals).
>> 
>> Michelle
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kelley 
>> To: felvtalk 
>> Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 8:39 am
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
>> 
>> The problem is with the cared for life. I flat cannot afford to care for 
>> them. I've tried to raise money for their care. I spent $1000 on vet bills 
>> last month. I have 3 left to test and vaccinate and I can't even do that. I 
>> can't even get people to share their fundraising link, let alone donate.  No 
>> one cares.
>> 
>> I had a special needs cat awhile back with a hereditarily heart condition.  
>> I was able to give her good care - visits to cardiologist, meds, trips to 
>> vet for constant ear infections and uri. That was when I was working. I'm on 
>> ssdi now and things are much different. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:47 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a 
>>> couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for 
>>> my sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared 
>>> for, life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and 
>>> other medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages 
>>> which some choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice.
>>> 
>>> I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for 
>>> who knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our 
>>> babies need. The time you have is all good then :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: dlgegg 
>>> To: felvtalk 
>>> Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
>>> 
>>> Don't euthanize!  I had 2 positives.  One died from complications early on 
>>> in 
>>> her life:  raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very 
>>> healthy 
>>> until last month of her life.  She developed a uri and in a positive that  
>>> or 
>>> any infection is not good.  The other one is still going at 8 years, 
>>> healthy as 
>>> can be.  Who k
>>> nows, yours may live a long life also.  My positive and negatives have 
>>> always 
>>> been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations.
>>>  Kelley  wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, 
>>> > approx 
>>> one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but 
>>> has 
>>> mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested 
>>> pos 
>>> and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   
>>> > 
>>> > We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better or 
>>> worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive 
&

Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[Kelley]

Hi Michelle, 

They have a fundraising page on youcaring.com.  Like I said I can't even get 
folks to share it.   I can make them a Facebook page. I'm just very very 
discouraged.  It has been shared 19 times in over a week. 

I don't fault anyone for not giving. Just explaining harsh realities. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 15, 2014, at 8:31 AM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> I don't think it's that people don't care. If you are mostly asking and 
> sharing the link with other people on lists like this, it's that most of us 
> are flat out and caring for many animals too. 
> 
> Do you have a Facebook page with a bunch of friends and family? If so, look 
> at Go Fund Me online. A friend of mine could not afford to get an 
> echocardiogram for her cat and set up a page on Go Fund Me and then sent a 
> link with an explanation to all her friends and family and posted in on 
> Facebook. She raised the whole thing in 2 days. People she had not seen in 
> years donated. You are more likely to get donations from people who like 
> animals but are not rescuers themselves (and therefore are not already 
> spending all their money on animals).
> 
> Michelle
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kelley 
> To: felvtalk 
> Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 8:39 am
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
> 
> The problem is with the cared for life. I flat cannot afford to care for 
> them. I've tried to raise money for their care. I spent $1000 on vet bills 
> last month. I have 3 left to test and vaccinate and I can't even do that. I 
> can't even get people to share their fundraising link, let alone donate.  No 
> one cares.
> 
> I had a special needs cat awhile back with a hereditarily heart condition.  I 
> was able to give her good care - visits to cardiologist, meds, trips to vet 
> for constant ear infections and uri. That was when I was working. I'm on ssdi 
> now and things are much different. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:47 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a 
>> couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for my 
>> sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared for, 
>> life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and other 
>> medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages which some 
>> choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice.
>> 
>> I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for who 
>> knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our babies 
>> need. The time you have is all good then :)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: dlgegg 
>> To: felvtalk 
>> Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
>> 
>> Don't euthanize!  I had 2 positives.  One died from complications early on 
>> in 
>> her life:  raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very 
>> healthy 
>> until last month of her life.  She developed a uri and in a positive that  
>> or 
>> any infection is not good.  The other one is still going at 8 years, healthy 
>> as 
>> can be.  Who k
>> nows, yours may live a long life also.  My positive and negatives have 
>> always 
>> been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations.
>>  Kelley  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, 
>> > approx 
>> one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but 
>> has 
>> mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested 
>> pos 
>> and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   
>> > 
>> > We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better or 
>> worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive kitties 
>> isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) 
>> negatives?   I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that.
>> > 
>> > I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is 
>> crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. 
>> Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it.  Unfortunately it 
>> turned 
>> out pos as well.  The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd ha

Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[lernermichelle]

I don't think it's that people don't care. If you are mostly asking and sharing 
the link with other people on lists like this, it's that most of us are flat 
out and caring for many animals too. 

Do you have a Facebook page with a bunch of friends and family? If so, look at 
Go Fund Me online. A friend of mine could not afford to get an echocardiogram 
for her cat and set up a page on Go Fund Me and then sent a link with an 
explanation to all her friends and family and posted in on Facebook. She raised 
the whole thing in 2 days. People she had not seen in years donated. You are 
more likely to get donations from people who like animals but are not rescuers 
themselves (and therefore are not already spending all their money on animals).

Michelle

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Kelley 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 8:39 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties



The problem is with the cared for life. I flat cannot afford to care for them. 
I've tried to raise money for their care. I spent $1000 on vet bills last 
month. I have 3 left to test and vaccinate and I can't even do that. I can't 
even get people to share their fundraising link, let alone donate.  No one 
cares.


I had a special needs cat awhile back with a hereditarily heart condition.  I 
was able to give her good care - visits to cardiologist, meds, trips to vet for 
constant ear infections and uri. That was when I was working. I'm on ssdi now 
and things are much different. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:47 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:



Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a 
couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for my 
sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared for, 
life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and other 
medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages which some 
choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice.

I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for who 
knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our babies 
need. The time you have is all good then :)

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: dlgegg 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties


Don't euthanize!  I had 2 positives.  One died from complications early on in 
her life:  raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very healthy 
until last month of her life.  She developed a uri and in a positive that  or 
any infection is not good.  The other one is still going at 8 years, healthy as 
can be.  Who k
nows, yours may live a long life also.  My positive and negatives have always 
been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations.
 Kelley  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, approx 
one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but has 
mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested pos 
and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   
> 
> We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better or 
worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive kitties 
isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) 
negatives?   I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that.
> 
> I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is 
crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. 
Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it.  Unfortunately it turned 
out pos as well.  The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had 
quite a few turn neg. 
> 
> We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of my 
own pocket last month and can't do that again.
> 
> Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly do 
it but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little 
benefit.
> 
> We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next Wednesday. 
> 
> Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm thinking 
of making a fundraising page for them also. 
> 
> 
> https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[Kelley]

The problem is with the cared for life. I flat cannot afford to care for them. 
I've tried to raise money for their care. I spent $1000 on vet bills last 
month. I have 3 left to test and vaccinate and I can't even do that. I can't 
even get people to share their fundraising link, let alone donate.  No one 
cares.

I had a special needs cat awhile back with a hereditarily heart condition.  I 
was able to give her good care - visits to cardiologist, meds, trips to vet for 
constant ear infections and uri. That was when I was working. I'm on ssdi now 
and things are much different. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:47 AM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a 
> couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for my 
> sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared for, 
> life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and other 
> medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages which some 
> choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice.
> 
> I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for who 
> knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our babies 
> need. The time you have is all good then :)
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: dlgegg 
> To: felvtalk 
> Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
> 
> Don't euthanize!  I had 2 positives.  One died from complications early on in 
> her life:  raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very 
> healthy 
> until last month of her life.  She developed a uri and in a positive that  or 
> any infection is not good.  The other one is still going at 8 years, healthy 
> as 
> can be.  Who k
> nows, yours may live a long life also.  My positive and negatives have always 
> been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations.
>  Kelley  wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, approx 
> one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but 
> has 
> mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested pos 
> and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   
> > 
> > We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better or 
> worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive kitties 
> isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) 
> negatives?   I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that.
> > 
> > I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is 
> crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. 
> Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it.  Unfortunately it turned 
> out pos as well.  The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had 
> quite a few turn neg. 
> > 
> > We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of 
> > my 
> own pocket last month and can't do that again.
> > 
> > Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly 
> > do 
> it but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little 
> benefit.
> > 
> > We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next Wednesday. 
> > 
> > Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm 
> > thinking 
> of making a fundraising page for them also. 
> > 
> > 
> > https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
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[zoephotomodel]

good news!
 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Lance 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 5:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties



Immunofluorescence Antibody Assay. Generally speaking, if a cat tests positive 
on an IFA, it means that the cat will be positive for life. I’ve never done an 
IFA for Ember, but I feel pretty confident that she’d test positive, as she had 
a number of positive ELISAs. 


There’s more information (than you might want to know) in this PDF:


http://www.catvets.com/public/PDFs/PracticeGuidelines/RetrovirusGLS.pdf


Ember has been living with the virus for at least eight years—just another 
reminder that FeLV+ status is not a “death sentence”. 


Best hopes for the sister and brother.


Lance


On Mar 14, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Lori Taddonio  wrote:



Can you tell me what IFA is? I have a sister and brother that I rescued and 
they both tested positive. Thanks for your help.

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On Mar 14, 2014, at 3:38 PM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:


I'll send a link and you hv this one. 
I found a person to talk to who knew about felv. That's how I got the best info 
for me and another gal too. U will hear many variations from everyone. FIND 
SOMEONE who knows what they are talking about like she suggested IFA next step.
I had IFA done on Kala and she tested neg! YEAH!
Mine had already comingled, so I let them continue, but were not using the same 
food dishes.
Cats 1 + yrs hv natural ability to shed felv.
If my girl got bad off I was allowing her to die bc quality of life is more 
important then quantity for me.I've been on interferon for hep c and u feel 
like death warmed over!
I hope that this helps~

 Janda like panda

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Kelley 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 10:56 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties






Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, approx one 
year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but has 
mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested pos 
and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   

We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better or worse 
luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive kitties 
isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) 
negatives?   I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that.

I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is 
crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. 
Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it.  Unfortunately it turned 
out pos as well.  The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had 
quite a few turn neg. 

We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of my 
own pocket last month and can't do that again.


Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly do it 
but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little 
benefit.


We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next Wednesday. 


Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm thinking of 
making a fundraising page for them also. 


https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925


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Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[zoephotomodel]

Oh no! I wouldn't PTS! I meant when the disease takes hold they pass in a 
couple of days. IF she was positive still I wouldn't prolong her life for my 
sake. I'd know it was time to let go after living a happy, loved, cared for, 
life. However, long it would be. I'm talking about interferon, and other 
medically induced procedures to keep her going at the end stages which some 
choose to do. I don't judge. It wasn't going to be my choice.

I'm so sorry that you are hurting about this. I think they live free for who 
knows how much time happily. You love them and that's all any of our babies 
need. The time you have is all good then :)

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: dlgegg 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 12:17 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties


Don't euthanize!  I had 2 positives.  One died from complications early on in 
her life:  raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very healthy 
until last month of her life.  She developed a uri and in a positive that  or 
any infection is not good.  The other one is still going at 8 years, healthy as 
can be.  Who k
nows, yours may live a long life also.  My positive and negatives have always 
been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations.
 Kelley  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, approx 
one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but has 
mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested pos 
and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   
> 
> We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better or 
worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive kitties 
isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) 
negatives?   I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that.
> 
> I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is 
crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. 
Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it.  Unfortunately it turned 
out pos as well.  The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had 
quite a few turn neg. 
> 
> We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of my 
own pocket last month and can't do that again.
> 
> Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly do 
it but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little 
benefit.
> 
> We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next Wednesday. 
> 
> Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm thinking 
of making a fundraising page for them also. 
> 
> 
> https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[dlgegg]

Don't euthanize!  I had 2 positives.  One died from complications early on in 
her life:  raccoon bit her tail off, never did get past 6 lbs, but very healthy 
until last month of her life.  She developed a uri and in a positive that  or 
any infection is not good.  The other one is still going at 8 years, healthy as 
can be.  Who k
nows, yours may live a long life also.  My positive and negatives have always 
been mixed as long as the negatives are up to date on vaccinations.
 Kelley  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, approx 
> one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but 
> has mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested 
> pos and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   
> 
> We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better or 
> worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive kitties 
> isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) 
> negatives?   I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that.
> 
> I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is 
> crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. 
> Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it.  Unfortunately it turned 
> out pos as well.  The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had 
> quite a few turn neg. 
> 
> We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of my 
> own pocket last month and can't do that again.
> 
> Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly do 
> it but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little 
> benefit.
> 
> We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next Wednesday. 
> 
> Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm thinking 
> of making a fundraising page for them also. 
> 
> 
> https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[Lori Taddonio]

Thank you for your help Lance.

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> On Mar 14, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Lance  wrote:
> 
> Immunofluorescence Antibody Assay. Generally speaking, if a cat tests 
> positive on an IFA, it means that the cat will be positive for life. I’ve 
> never done an IFA for Ember, but I feel pretty confident that she’d test 
> positive, as she had a number of positive ELISAs. 
> 
> There’s more information (than you might want to know) in this PDF:
> 
> http://www.catvets.com/public/PDFs/PracticeGuidelines/RetrovirusGLS.pdf
> 
> Ember has been living with the virus for at least eight years—just another 
> reminder that FeLV+ status is not a “death sentence”. 
> 
> Best hopes for the sister and brother.
> 
> Lance
> 
>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Lori Taddonio  wrote:
>> 
>> Can you tell me what IFA is? I have a sister and brother that I rescued and 
>> they both tested positive. Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 3:38 PM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'll send a link and you hv this one. 
>>> I found a person to talk to who knew about felv. That's how I got the best 
>>> info for me and another gal too. U will hear many variations from everyone. 
>>> FIND SOMEONE who knows what they are talking about like she suggested IFA 
>>> next step.
>>> I had IFA done on Kala and she tested neg! YEAH!
>>> Mine had already comingled, so I let them continue, but were not using the 
>>> same food dishes.
>>> Cats 1 + yrs hv natural ability to shed felv.
>>> If my girl got bad off I was allowing her to die bc quality of life is more 
>>> important then quantity for me.I've been on interferon for hep c and u feel 
>>> like death warmed over!
>>> I hope that this helps~
>>> Janda like panda
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Kelley 
>>> To: felvtalk 
>>> Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 10:56 am
>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, approx 
>>> one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but 
>>> has mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One 
>>> tested pos and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   
>>> 
>>> We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better or 
>>> worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive 
>>> kitties isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the 
>>> (vaccinated) negatives?   I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for 
>>> that.
>>> 
>>> I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is 
>>> crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. 
>>> Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it.  Unfortunately it 
>>> turned out pos as well.  The holistic vet was much more positive and said 
>>> she'd had quite a few turn neg. 
>>> 
>>> We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of 
>>> my own pocket last month and can't do that again.
>>> 
>>> Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly 
>>> do it but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very 
>>> little benefit.
>>> 
>>> We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next Wednesday. 
>>> 
>>> Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm 
>>> thinking of making a fundraising page for them also. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[Lance]

Immunofluorescence Antibody Assay. Generally speaking, if a cat tests positive 
on an IFA, it means that the cat will be positive for life. I’ve never done an 
IFA for Ember, but I feel pretty confident that she’d test positive, as she had 
a number of positive ELISAs. 

There’s more information (than you might want to know) in this PDF:

http://www.catvets.com/public/PDFs/PracticeGuidelines/RetrovirusGLS.pdf

Ember has been living with the virus for at least eight years—just another 
reminder that FeLV+ status is not a “death sentence”. 

Best hopes for the sister and brother.

Lance

On Mar 14, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Lori Taddonio  wrote:

> Can you tell me what IFA is? I have a sister and brother that I rescued and 
> they both tested positive. Thanks for your help.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 14, 2014, at 3:38 PM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> I'll send a link and you hv this one. 
>> I found a person to talk to who knew about felv. That's how I got the best 
>> info for me and another gal too. U will hear many variations from everyone. 
>> FIND SOMEONE who knows what they are talking about like she suggested IFA 
>> next step.
>> I had IFA done on Kala and she tested neg! YEAH!
>> Mine had already comingled, so I let them continue, but were not using the 
>> same food dishes.
>> Cats 1 + yrs hv natural ability to shed felv.
>> If my girl got bad off I was allowing her to die bc quality of life is more 
>> important then quantity for me.I've been on interferon for hep c and u feel 
>> like death warmed over!
>> I hope that this helps~
>> Janda like panda
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kelley 
>> To: felvtalk 
>> Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 10:56 am
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, approx 
>> one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but 
>> has mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One 
>> tested pos and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   
>> 
>> We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better or 
>> worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive kitties 
>> isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) 
>> negatives?   I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that.
>> 
>> I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is 
>> crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. 
>> Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it.  Unfortunately it 
>> turned out pos as well.  The holistic vet was much more positive and said 
>> she'd had quite a few turn neg. 
>> 
>> We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of my 
>> own pocket last month and can't do that again.
>> 
>> Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly do 
>> it but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little 
>> benefit.
>> 
>> We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next Wednesday. 
>> 
>> Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm thinking 
>> of making a fundraising page for them also. 
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[Lori Taddonio]

Can you tell me what IFA is? I have a sister and brother that I rescued and 
they both tested positive. Thanks for your help.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 14, 2014, at 3:38 PM, zoephotomo...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> I'll send a link and you hv this one. 
> I found a person to talk to who knew about felv. That's how I got the best 
> info for me and another gal too. U will hear many variations from everyone. 
> FIND SOMEONE who knows what they are talking about like she suggested IFA 
> next step.
> I had IFA done on Kala and she tested neg! YEAH!
> Mine had already comingled, so I let them continue, but were not using the 
> same food dishes.
> Cats 1 + yrs hv natural ability to shed felv.
> If my girl got bad off I was allowing her to die bc quality of life is more 
> important then quantity for me.I've been on interferon for hep c and u feel 
> like death warmed over!
> I hope that this helps~
> Janda like panda
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kelley 
> To: felvtalk 
> Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 10:56 am
> Subject: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, approx 
> one year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but 
> has mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested 
> pos and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   
> 
> We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better or 
> worse luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive kitties 
> isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) 
> negatives?   I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that.
> 
> I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is 
> crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. 
> Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it.  Unfortunately it turned 
> out pos as well.  The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had 
> quite a few turn neg. 
> 
> We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of my 
> own pocket last month and can't do that again.
> 
> Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly do 
> it but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little 
> benefit.
> 
> We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next Wednesday. 
> 
> Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm thinking 
> of making a fundraising page for them also. 
> 
> 
> https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[zoephotomodel]

I'll send a link and you hv this one. 
I found a person to talk to who knew about felv. That's how I got the best info 
for me and another gal too. U will hear many variations from everyone. FIND 
SOMEONE who knows what they are talking about like she suggested IFA next step.
I had IFA done on Kala and she tested neg! YEAH!
Mine had already comingled, so I let them continue, but were not using the same 
food dishes.
Cats 1 + yrs hv natural ability to shed felv.
If my girl got bad off I was allowing her to die bc quality of life is more 
important then quantity for me.I've been on interferon for hep c and u feel 
like death warmed over!
I hope that this helps~

 Janda like panda

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Kelley 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 10:56 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties






Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, approx one 
year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but has 
mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested pos 
and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   

We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better or worse 
luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive kitties 
isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) 
negatives?   I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that.

I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is 
crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. 
Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it.  Unfortunately it turned 
out pos as well.  The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had 
quite a few turn neg. 

We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of my 
own pocket last month and can't do that again.


Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly do it 
but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little 
benefit.


We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next Wednesday. 


Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm thinking of 
making a fundraising page for them also. 


https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925


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[Felvtalk] 2 new felv kitties

[Kelley]

Ugh...we have 2 my stepdaughter brought in recently.  I had the boy, approx one 
year, tested while he was being neutered. Outwardly he appears fine but has 
mouth lesions.  Had the two girls, about 6 months old, tested. One tested pos 
and one neg.   The pos girl had uri but bounced back quickly.   

We're trying to raise money for a holistic vet.  Have y'all had better or worse 
luck with holistic vs. regular vets?   I have the two positive kitties 
isolated, is it safe to let the negative girl in with the (vaccinated) 
negatives?   I know some of y'all mix but I'm not ready for that.

I have gotten so much conflicting information from various vets it is 
crazy. The low cost spay neuter clinic recommended immediate euthanization. 
Didn't even mention the ifa - I had to insist on it.  Unfortunately it turned 
out pos as well.  The holistic vet was much more positive and said she'd had 
quite a few turn neg. 

We're also raising funds for them. I spent over 1,000 in vet bills out of my 
own pocket last month and can't do that again.

Also, I did ask about interferon. The holistic vet said they would gladly do it 
but it was an older treatment she had found expensive and of very little 
benefit.

We have appointments for both of them with the holistic vet next Wednesday. 

Below is their fundraising link - please give or share or both. I'm thinking of 
making a fundraising page for them also. 


https://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/help-merlin-and-coco/145925


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Re: [Felvtalk] New Member

[Margo]

Dear Deborah,
 
    What a lousy way to start off as a Foster Mom. It isn't usually like that. Usually you get to play with wonderful little beings, and then send them to their Forever homes. It's never easy to let them go, but knowing that they will have new lives, and you can go on to help the next ones, it kind of balances out.
 
Unfortunately, there don't seem to be any hard and fast rules for FeLV. From my research, It seems that while cats can test negative and yet still harbor the virus, when they DO test negative, they are not contagious. The problem is multi-faceted, though. In your case, we don't know when the MomCat sero-coverted to positive. Was it during her stay with you? After she left you? If that, then the kittens have a good chance of never testing positive.  It's also possible, in fact most likely, that the MomCat was exposed before she was taken into rescue. The incubation period for FeLV is variable, and that's the biggest problem. We just don't know what the time frames are. It's also possible for a cat to test negative, become positive (after incubation) and then recover completely. That can take up 16 weeks, some sources say longer. From; http://abcd-vets.org/guidelines/guidelines_pdf/1201-FeLV_Guideline.pdf, when discussing positive yet healthy cats;
 
"Cats testing positive may overcome viraemia after two to sixteen weeks - in rare
cases even later. Therefore, every test-positive healthy cat should be separated
and retested after several weeks or months;"
 
 So, it is very possible that they will be negative in 30 days, but they may be positive. The question is whether they will STAY positive. Or stay negative. Even if they become positive, and return to negative, it won't be clear whether they still harbor the virus, or have cleared it completely. 
 
 This is no help, I know. I wish there were more I could tell you, but I'm struggling to understand it, myself. 
 
All the best,
 
Margo
 
 
-Original Message- From: Deborah Adams Sent: Jun 6, 2013 4:14 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: [Felvtalk] New Member 


Hi all,
 
I'm a new member of this group hoping to better understand FeLv and the situation that I'm in.  Last month, I decided to foster kittens for my local humane society as a summer project with my 2 girls (age 7 and 10 years).  We were given a momma cat and her 3 kittens who were about 4-5 weeks old, found as strays. All were initially tested for FeLv and came back negative (I don't know which test HS used.)  After helping momma wean her kittens, I returned her to the shelter this past weekend.  Yesterday she was retested for FeLV before her spay surgery and was positive. (HS checked both her blood and serum.)  Today, I took the kittens back to HS for testing and they are negative for FeLV.  I agreed to continue fostering them for 30 days and then they will be retested.
 
How much hope do these kittens have? Is there any chance that they will continue to be negative for FeLV? I'm so stressed about all this.  My kids are heart-broken.  I feel like everything is going all wrong.  First, they all got URI and one kitten got a persistent eye infection that took three different antibiotics until it finally cleared up.  But her eye is all clouded over and she is probably blind in that eye.  And now this FeLV scare.  I don't know if I can handle fostering.
 
Deborah Adams

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Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance

[Margo]

Hi Chris,
 
   It's very possible to make your own cat food, and I have/do. It isn't as simple as chicken + a cat vitamin, but it isn't that difficult either. Google "Home prepared cat food" and start reading recipes. I use no grain and very few (if any) veggies and fruits. Essential are taurine and calcium, unless you're feeding raw with bone, then you can skip the Ca. 
 
   I liked the list, as well, as it gave me new foods to look into, but I was disappointed in most of them when I looked at the ingredients. The only one I use from there is Hound and Gatos. The other canned varieties seem to have too many extraneous ingredients, and I don't feed raw to the FeLV group, not even my own preparation. Tiki is way too expensive for  me to even consider (I think the Hound and Gatos is too high, as well, but I do keep it in the mix) and most varieties have fish, which may not be good for my FLUTD/FeLV boys. I confess that I feed some "lpw-end" foods, simply beause I like the ingredient lists better than some of the high end ones. It's all a choice :)
 
HTH
 
Margo
 
   -Original Message- From: cer...@new.rr.com Sent: Jun 6, 2013 9:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance 


That’s a great site-thanks!I’ve been feeding mine Tiki Cat, and I was wondering...in
looking at it and reading the ingredients list, wouldn’t it be
a lot cheaper and just as good to boil some chicken and add
a cat vitamin?
 
Chris C.
 


 

From: Lance 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:32 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance
 

Ember was four years old when she tested positive, but she must have had the disease prior to that. She might have been as young as two or three years old when the infection became persistent. We still don't know how the virus got into the house, whether through Ember herself or a stray kitten my parents took in who was later euthanized due to symptoms a year and a half later.
 
About lymphoma, please join the feline lymphoma Yahoo! group. The support there is amazing, and a vet frequently comments there.
 
I'm glad that the others aren't showing symptoms. My Ember has thankfully had very few issues with the virus. Her main symptoms are: low white blood cell count, anisocoria (one pupil is fully open all the time), and some very minor bouts of diarrhea (not in the last few years) and upper respiratory infections. For the most part, she gets sick like a normal cat. 
 
You may want to check this blog post that covers cat food:
 
<http://www.naturalcatcareblog.com/2010/12/the-7-best-natural-commercial-cat-foods-so-far/>
 
Ember eats Tiki Cat these days, which is the priciest stuff, but other brands like Hound & Gatos and Great Life Essentials are more affordable.
 

On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:33 PM, kasia mosko <kasia...@yahoo.com> wrote:



Hi Lance,
 





 
Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? 
***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms.
Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it?
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[Lance]

Hi Chris,

That would certainly make sense. Looking at it like that, I guess the extra 
money paid is going to the convenience of not having to buy chicken, boil it, 
and prepare it. Nothing more.

Side note: Ember is so spoiled by Tiki Cat that she avoids all "paté" types of 
foods. It sounds funny, but it might be something to consider before going down 
that route. I'm in a spot with her where I really, really can't have her not 
eating even for a few hours. So, Ember's Tiki Cat habit is the boss of me.

On Jun 6, 2013, at 8:53 PM,  wrote:

> That’s a great site-thanks!
> 
> I’ve been feeding mine Tiki Cat, and I was wondering...in
> looking at it and reading the ingredients list, wouldn’t it be
> a lot cheaper and just as good to boil some chicken and add
> a cat vitamin?
>  
> Chris C.
>  
>  
> From: Lance
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:32 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance
>  
> Ember was four years old when she tested positive, but she must have had the 
> disease prior to that. She might have been as young as two or three years old 
> when the infection became persistent. We still don't know how the virus got 
> into the house, whether through Ember herself or a stray kitten my parents 
> took  in who was later euthanized due to symptoms a year and a half later.
>  
> About lymphoma, please join the feline lymphoma Yahoo! group. The support 
> there is amazing, and a vet frequently comments there.
>  
> I'm glad that the others aren't showing symptoms. My Ember has thankfully had 
> very few issues with the virus. Her main symptoms are: low white blood cell 
> count, anisocoria (one pupil is fully open all the time), and some very minor 
> bouts of diarrhea (not in the last few years) and upper respiratory 
> infections. For the most part, she gets sick like a normal cat.
>  
> You may want to check this blog post that covers cat food:
>  
> <http://www.naturalcatcareblog.com/2010/12/the-7-best-natural-commercial-cat-foods-so-far/>
>  
> Ember eats Tiki Cat these days, which is the priciest stuff, but other brands 
> like Hound & Gatos and Great Life Essentials are more affordable.
>  
> On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:33 PM, kasia mosko  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Lance,
>>  
>>  
>> Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms?
>> ***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms.
>> Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it?
>> Kasia
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[cerwin]

That’s a great site-thanks!

I’ve been feeding mine Tiki Cat, and I was wondering...in
looking at it and reading the ingredients list, wouldn’t it be
a lot cheaper and just as good to boil some chicken and add
a cat vitamin?

Chris C.


From: Lance 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:32 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance

Ember was four years old when she tested positive, but she must have had the 
disease prior to that. She might have been as young as two or three years old 
when the infection became persistent. We still don't know how the virus got 
into the house, whether through Ember herself or a stray kitten my parents took 
in who was later euthanized due to symptoms a year and a half later.

About lymphoma, please join the feline lymphoma Yahoo! group. The support there 
is amazing, and a vet frequently comments there.

I'm glad that the others aren't showing symptoms. My Ember has thankfully had 
very few issues with the virus. Her main symptoms are: low white blood cell 
count, anisocoria (one pupil is fully open all the time), and some very minor 
bouts of diarrhea (not in the last few years) and upper respiratory infections. 
For the most part, she gets sick like a normal cat. 

You may want to check this blog post that covers cat food:

<http://www.naturalcatcareblog.com/2010/12/the-7-best-natural-commercial-cat-foods-so-far/>

Ember eats Tiki Cat these days, which is the priciest stuff, but other brands 
like Hound & Gatos and Great Life Essentials are more affordable.

On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:33 PM, kasia mosko  wrote:


  Hi Lance,


  Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? 
  ***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms.
  Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it?
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[Lance]

Ember was four years old when she tested positive, but she must have had the 
disease prior to that. She might have been as young as two or three years old 
when the infection became persistent. We still don't know how the virus got 
into the house, whether through Ember herself or a stray kitten my parents took 
in who was later euthanized due to symptoms a year and a half later.

About lymphoma, please join the feline lymphoma Yahoo! group. The support there 
is amazing, and a vet frequently comments there.

I'm glad that the others aren't showing symptoms. My Ember has thankfully had 
very few issues with the virus. Her main symptoms are: low white blood cell 
count, anisocoria (one pupil is fully open all the time), and some very minor 
bouts of diarrhea (not in the last few years) and upper respiratory infections. 
For the most part, she gets sick like a normal cat. 

You may want to check this blog post that covers cat food:



Ember eats Tiki Cat these days, which is the priciest stuff, but other brands 
like Hound & Gatos and Great Life Essentials are more affordable.

On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:33 PM, kasia mosko  wrote:

> Hi Lance,
> 
> 
> Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? 
> ***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms.
> Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it?
> Kasia
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[kasia mosko]

Hi Lance,



Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? 
***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms.
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[Lance]

I'm so sorry, Kasia. You and your cats will be in my thoughts and prayers. As 
Lorrie said, it's very possible that an FeLV+ cat can live for years. I 
understand how you feel, though. I'm worried about a likely exposure in our 
house, and I also have an 11 year old FeLV+ girl of my own.

Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? 

Lance

On Jun 6, 2013, at 4:19 PM, kasia mosko  wrote:

> Hi Lorrie,
> 
> Three of my cats are around 7-8 years old, one is little over 3 years, and 
> two will be three years old soon. From what I understood is that older cats 
> got infected because they hang around the carrier for a long period of time. 
> It is such a shocking news, I still do not know how to deal with it; 
> honestly, this is the worst time of my life. All of my animals are the most 
> important "things" in my life, I cant imagine losing any of them...unless 
> they are old and  ready to go. 
> 
> From: Lorrie 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group
> 
> Oh Kasia, I am so sorry. You must be absolutely devastated. It is really
> unusual for older cats to become positive unless they were kittens at
> the time they were with the positive cats.
> 
> I know you are shocked and frightened, but cats who test positive can still
> live long lives, but it is important to catch the first sign of illness and
> treat it. I hope your cats will be able to live with this virus and have a
> good long life in spite of being positive.
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> >On 06-06, kasia mosko wrote:
> >Lorrie,
> >Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all
> >turned out to be positive. I  have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one
> >has lymphoma; I feel like my life has just ended.
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[kasia mosko]

Hi Lorrie,

Three of my cats are around 7-8 years old, one is little over 3 years, and two 
will be three years old soon. From what I understood is that older cats got 
infected because they hang around the carrier for a long period of time. It is 
such a shocking news, I still do not know how to deal with it; honestly, this 
is the worst time of my life. All of my animals are the most important "things" 
in my life, I cant imagine losing any of them...unless they are old and ready 
to go. 



 From: Lorrie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group
 

Oh Kasia, I am so sorry. You must be absolutely devastated. It is really
unusual for older cats to become positive unless they were kittens at
the time they were with the positive cats.

I know you are shocked and frightened, but cats who test positive can still
live long lives, but it is important to catch the first sign of illness and
treat it. I hope your cats will be able to live with this virus and have a
good long life in spite of being positive.

Lorrie

>    On 06-06, kasia mosko wrote:
>    Lorrie,
>    Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all
>    turned out to be positive. I  have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one
>    has lymphoma; I feel like my life has just ended.
>    Kasia
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[Lorrie]

Oh Kasia, I am so sorry. You must be absolutely devastated. It is really
unusual for older cats to become positive unless they were kittens at
the time they were with the positive cats.

I know you are shocked and frightened, but cats who test positive can still
live long lives, but it is important to catch the first sign of illness and
treat it. I hope your cats will be able to live with this virus and have a
good long life in spite of being positive.

Lorrie

>On 06-06, kasia mosko wrote:
>Lorrie,
>Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all
>turned out to be positive. I  have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one
>has lymphoma; I feel like my life has just ended.
>Kasia
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[Amanda K. Payne]

Deborah,

First of all, thank you for fostering!  You and your daughters provided an
invaluable service for your local HS.

I'm sorry your first fostering experience has been tainted by FeLV.  Please
understand that FeLV isn't an automatic death sentence though cats and
kittens who are positive usually have a shorter life span.  However, it
doesn't mean their quality of life is horrible the entire time they are
alive.  Whether they live for days or months or years, FeLV+ cats and
kittens can have fun, be crazy, play like there is no tomorrow and give
tons of love.

Testing kittens for FeLV can be troublesome, especially if they've been
exposed to the virus.  I work with several different rescues in the Los
Angeles area and also have a FeLV+ cat and have had them in the past.  Most
rescues and vets will recommend testing the kittens once they have reached
six months of age OR have been separated from an FeLV carrier for six
months.  False positives happen more frequently in kittens under 6 months
of age so that is why they suggest testing when they hit the six month
mark.

As far as their chances of having FeLV, no one can say with certainty or
give you probabilities.  Some kittens get it while others don't.  For
instance, I've had a kitten that was rescued from a hoarder.  This kitten
was around three other litters for two months and around the mama cats.
 The kitten I brought home was FeLV+ but no other kittens ever tested
positive nor did their mamas.  As you can see, FeLV is a real crapshoot.  I
apologize I can't give you a more definitive answer.

Most importantly, and I cannot stress this enough, is how important
fostering is.  I know your current experience is rough and you may feel you
are not up to it.  Whether these kittens end up with FeLV or not, your
fostering them most likely saved their lives. Even if their lives are cut
short by a FeLV related illness, they knew love and care and that is the
most important part of fostering; every animal deserves to know love and
safety and somebody has to love those FeLV kitties!  Hopefully, they stay
negative, find great homes and you choose to keep fostering.

Once again, thanks for fostering.

Best,
-Amanda


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>
> I'm a new member of this group hoping to better understand FeLv and the
> situation that I'm in.  Last month, I decided to foster kittens for my
> local humane society as a summer project with my 2 girls (age 7 and 10
> years).  We were given a momma cat and her 3 kittens who were about 4-5
> weeks old, found as strays. All were initially tested for FeLv and came
> back negative (I don't know which test HS used.)  After helping momma wean
> her kittens, I returned her to the shelter this past weekend.  Yesterday
> she was retested for FeLV before her spay surgery and was positive. (HS
> checked both her blood and serum.)  Today, I took the kittens back to HS
> for testing and they are negative for FeLV.  I agreed to continue fostering
> them for 30 days and then they will be retested.
>
> How much hope do these kittens have? Is there any chance that they will
> continue to be negative for FeLV? I'm so stressed about all this.  My kids
> are heart-broken.  I feel like everything is going all wrong.  First, they
> all got URI and one kitten got a persistent eye infection that took three
> different antibiotics until it finally cleared up.  But her eye is all
> clouded over and she is probably blind in that eye.  And now this FeLV
> scare.  I don't know if I can handle fostering.
>
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[Deborah Adams]

Hi all,

I'm a new member of this group hoping to better understand FeLv and the 
situation that I'm in.  Last month, I decided to foster kittens for my local 
humane society as a summer project with my 2 girls (age 7 and 10 years).  We 
were given a momma cat and her 3 kittens who were about 4-5 weeks old, found as 
strays. All were initially tested for FeLv and came back negative (I don't know 
which test HS used.)  After helping momma wean her kittens, I returned her to 
the shelter this past weekend.  Yesterday she was retested for FeLV before her 
spay surgery and was positive. (HS checked both her blood and serum.)  Today, I 
took the kittens back to HS for testing and they are negative for FeLV.  I 
agreed to continue fostering them for 30 days and then they will be retested.

How much hope do these kittens have? Is there any chance that they will 
continue to be negative for FeLV? I'm so stressed about all this.  My kids are 
heart-broken.  I feel like everything is going all wrong.  First, they all got 
URI and one kitten got a persistent eye infection that took three different 
antibiotics until it finally cleared up.  But her eye is all clouded over and 
she is probably blind in that eye.  And now this FeLV scare.  I don't know if I 
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[Beth]

Kasia -
We've all made mistakes, but we have to go on and do the best we can with what 
the current situation is. I unknowingly infected a kitten once before I knew 
much about FeLV. No, your life isn't over. I currently have 4 FeLV cats. 2 I 
have had for 3 years. They have a much better chance at a longer life if they 
get it when they are older. 

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 From: kasia mosko 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group
 


Lorrie,

Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all turned out 
to be positive. I  have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one has lymphoma; I feel 
like my life has just ended. 
Kasia



 
 

Kasia,
I unknowingly mixed two FelV cats into my group, and the two positive cats
are now 5 years old and in apparent good health in spite of being positive. 
There were several other older cats (not kittens) who were exposed and only
one became very sick and had to be PTS.  The other 9 cats are still fine. 
One has been tested twice and still remains negative. FelV is not always a
death sentence for older cats who are exposed, but sadly I have found that 
kittens born to a FelV mother and testing positive almost always die at
a year or so old.   Good luck with your cats and welcome to the group.

Lorrie

On 06-02, kasia mosko wrote:
>   
 Hello,
>    I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline
>    leukemia and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted
>    two vets regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me
>    something totally different. One of them says that I should separate
>    Jack, and test the other cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they
>    are negative. The second vets tells me that the cats were already
>    exposed to the virus and hopefully their immune system was strong
>    enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat is exposed to it,
>    the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though the test may
>    show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late for the
>    vaccination. I am totally
 confused and not sure what my next step
>    should be.
>    Help would be greatly appreciated,
>    Kasia


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[Margo]

Oh crap.
 
Kasia, I'm so sorry. I've been afraid to do that
Please, take a deep breath. Your life hasn't ended, and neither has theirs.
 
We need to think this through.
 
Okay. From what I see Jack was the original to test positive for FeLV, and he also has Lymphoma, which is currently being treated.  
Your other cats are now testing (Elisa?) positive for FeLV. According to this article;
 
http://abcd-vets.org/guidelines/guidelines_pdf/1201-FeLV_Guideline.pdf
 
there is a possibility that the others MAY not be persistently infected.
 
"The most widely used in-practice tests are antigen ELISA and
immunochromatography. As the prevalence of FeLV infection has decreased in
many European countries, also false positive test results tend to increase.
Therefore, a doubtful positive result in a healthy cat should always be confirmed,
preferably using provirus PCR (DNA PCR) offered by a reliable laboratory. A
positive test in a cat with clinical signs consistent with FeLV infection is more
reliable, as in sick cats the prevalence of FeLV is considerably higher.
Cats testing positive may overcome viraemia after two to sixteen weeks - in rare
cases even later. Therefore, every test-positive healthy cat should be separated
and retested after several weeks or months; depending on compliance of the
owner, retesting can be done still later (up to one year) when it is highly unlikely
that the cat will clear the viraemia."
 
It's the same thing I'm facing, if not to the same extent. I don't know if Gribble infected Mako, or vice-versa. Or are there other positives in this bunch, that will show up later, when they have health issues down the road. 
 
It's all very complicated. Every tine I think I get a handle on it, something else happens.
 
So I'm trying to go one day at a time. I will make their lives as wonderful as I can, and as comfortable. I will try to make wise decisions, though there are no quarantees. Basically, I will do the best that I can.
 
Again, I'm so very sorry that this has happened.
 
Margo
 
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Lorrie,

Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all turned out to be positive. I  have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one has lymphoma; I feel like my life has just ended. 
Kasia






Kasia,I unknowingly mixed two FelV cats into my group, and the two positive catsare now 5 years old and in apparent good health in spite of being positive. There were several other older cats (not kittens) who were exposed and onlyone became very sick and had to be PTS.  The other 9 cats are still fine. One has been tested twice and still remains negative. FelV is not always adeath sentence for older cats who are exposed, but sadly I have found that kittens born to a FelV mother and testing positive almost always die ata year or so old.  Good luck with your cats and welcome to the group.LorrieOn 06-02, kasia mosko wrote:>    Hello,>    I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline>    leukemia and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted>    two vets regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me>    something totally different. One of them says that I should separate>    Jack, and test the other cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they>    are negative. The second vets tells me that the cats were already>    exposed to the virus and hopefully their immune system was strong>    enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat is exposed to it,>    the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though the test may>    show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late for the>    vaccination. I am totally confused and not sure what my next step>    should be.>    Help would be greatly appreciated,>    Kasia___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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[kasia mosko]

Lorrie,

Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all turned out 
to be positive. I  have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one has lymphoma; I feel 
like my life has just ended. 
Kasia



 
 

Kasia,
I unknowingly mixed two FelV cats into my group, and the two positive cats
are now 5 years old and in apparent good health in spite of being positive. 
There were several other older cats (not kittens) who were exposed and only
one became very sick and had to be PTS.  The other 9 cats are still fine. 
One has been tested twice and still remains negative. FelV is not always a
death sentence for older cats who are exposed, but sadly I have found that 
kittens born to a FelV mother and testing positive almost always die at
a year or so old.   Good luck with your cats and welcome to the group.

Lorrie

On 06-02, kasia mosko wrote:
>    Hello,
>    I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline
>    leukemia and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted
>    two vets regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me
>    something totally different. One of them says that I should separate
>    Jack, and test the other cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they
>    are negative. The second vets tells me that the cats were already
>    exposed to the virus and hopefully their immune system was strong
>    enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat is exposed to it,
>    the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though the test may
>    show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late for the
>    vaccination. I am totally confused and not sure what my next step
>    should be.
>    Help would be greatly appreciated,
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[Lorrie]

Kasia,
I unknowingly mixed two FelV cats into my group, and the two positive cats
are now 5 years old and in apparent good health in spite of being positive. 
There were several other older cats (not kittens) who were exposed and only
one became very sick and had to be PTS.  The other 9 cats are still fine. 
One has been tested twice and still remains negative. FelV is not always a
death sentence for older cats who are exposed, but sadly I have found that 
kittens born to a FelV mother and testing positive almost always die at
a year or so old.   Good luck with your cats and welcome to the group.

Lorrie

On 06-02, kasia mosko wrote:
>Hello,
>I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline
>leukemia and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted
>two vets regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me
>something totally different. One of them says that I should separate
>Jack, and test the other cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they
>are negative. The second vets tells me that the cats were already
>exposed to the virus and hopefully their immune system was strong
>enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat is exposed to it,
>the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though the test may
>show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late for the
>vaccination. I am totally confused and not sure what my next step
>should be.
>Help would be greatly appreciated,
>Kasia


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[Margo]

Hi Kasia,
 
  So sorry that you are facing this dilemma. I recently faced the same scenario. Like you, the more I learned, the less I seemed to know. All I can offer is the decision I made. When Gribble was diagnosed in March, he had been with his clowder a year and 2 months. At that time, all _tested_ negative. I asked my Vet whether there was anything to be done, and her words were "that ship has sailed". So I did not vaccinate his companions. However, any new additions and other cats that may come in contact with him will be vaccinated using the Merial rFeLV recombinant vaccine. I decided this when I was placed in a position of adding one more cat, and now it is done. Whether I made the right choice has yet to be determined.  
 
   You will find that there is no one answer. You will find people who mix, and thise who don't.
 
   All I can say is learn what you can, and if you have done that, make the best choice you can for your circumstances. Please let us know if there are specific questions, as someone here may have been in the same position, and will have some insight to offer.
 
All the best,
 
Margo
 
-Original Message- From: kasia mosko Sent: Jun 2, 2013 10:31 AM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: [Felvtalk] New To Group 

Hello,

I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline leukemia and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted two vets regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me something totally different. One of them says that I should separate Jack, and test the other cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they are negative. The second vets tells me that the cats were already exposed to the virus and hopefully their immune system was strong enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat is exposed to it, the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though the test may show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late for the vaccination. I am totally confused and not sure what my next step should be. 
Help would be greatly appreciated,
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[kasia mosko]

Hello,

I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline leukemia 
and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted two vets 
regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me something totally 
different. One of them says that I should separate Jack, and test the other 
cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they are negative. The second vets 
tells me that the cats were already exposed to the virus and hopefully their 
immune system was strong enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat 
is exposed to it, the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though 
the test may show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late 
for the vaccination. I am totally confused and not sure what my next step 
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[Lorrie]

Hi Marta,

Unfortuntely euthanasia is the best option in some cases. For example
if the cat who tested positive is a shelter cat.

However there are several of us on this list who have FelV sanctuaries,
and I am one of them. I have lost many kittens who has FelV pos. mothers
but my older FelV cats often live symptom free for many years. For example
I have two FelV + cats who are 5 years old.

Lorrie in WV

On 05-10, Marta Gasper wrote:
>Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue
>director in Fairbury, Nebraska.
>One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago
>also positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some
>disorders that'd make him hard to adopt.
>Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was
>FeLV+ and some time before he succumbed  one of our foster kittens
>tested leuk +._ Our vet concluded he would have been infected when
>younger, he was tested after his uris kept returning; although we are
>no-kill and try to give them the best hospice care sometimes euthanasia
>is the best option.
> 
>Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other
>than being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight
>stopped eating and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making
>gargling, squishy noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and
>said it looked good, mild gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be
>from further lesions/masses down his throath._ In a few days and
>coincidentally he's developed bald spots that bleed and dark spots on
>his fur. Vet said those were bacterial and fungal infections. Right now
>he's on Clavamox and metacam and is starting to eat again, I suggested
>interferon_we did have a FIV+ with stomatitis and other problems that
>made a remarkable comeback on it_and he agreed to administer it though
>because Arlo has all these symptoms and because he knows we're on a
>limited budget he talked about considering the euthanasia alternative
>as Arlo won't get better.
>I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't
>know how much Interferon is right now etc.
> 
>Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if
>the cat is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if
>and what cancer he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even
>try other treatments?
> 
>And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo,
>what treatments if so? Thank-you and thank-you for this list
>Marta


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Re: [Felvtalk] New member from Nebraska

[I-Chun C. C. Chang]

Dear Marta,

While searching for possible treatments, you may want to at least consider
stopping using Metacam:
http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/NewsEvents/CVMUpdates/ucm231254.htm
I personally know several cats died because of Metacam before other
diseases take them.
There are some alternative pain medications that your vet should be able to
provide you with.

with my best,
Catherine




On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Marta Gasper wrote:

> Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue director
> in Fairbury, Nebraska.
> One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago also
> positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some disorders
> that'd make him hard to adopt.
> Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was
> FeLV+ and some time before he succumbed  one of our foster kittens tested
> leuk +._ Our vet concluded he would have been infected when younger, he was
> tested after his uris kept returning; although we are no-kill and try to
> give them the best hospice care sometimes euthanasia is the best option.
>
> Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other than
> being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight stopped
> eating and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making gargling,
> squishy noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and said it looked
> good, mild gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be from further
> lesions/masses down his throath._ In a few days and coincidentally he's
> developed bald spots that bleed and dark spots on his fur. Vet said those
> were bacterial and fungal infections. Right now he's on Clavamox and
> metacam and is starting to eat again, I suggested interferon_we did have a
> FIV+ with stomatitis and other problems that made a remarkable comeback on
> it_and he agreed to administer it though because Arlo has all these
> symptoms and because he knows we're on a limited budget he talked about
> considering the euthanasia alternative as Arlo won't get better.
> I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't
> know how much Interferon is right now etc.
>
> Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if the
> cat is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if and what
> cancer he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even try other
> treatments?
>
> And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo, what
> treatments if so? Thank-you and thank-you for this list
> Marta
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] New member from Nebraska

[Lance]

Hi Marta,

Thanks for everything that you do for all of those cats, including Arlo.  I'm 
not aware of any specific recommendation that treatments be discontinued or not 
applied at any certain stage of infection or progress. However, I'm not an 
expert or veterinarian. 

I have given my FeLV+ girl Transfer Factor and Liquid DMG fairly regularly. She 
has also been on interferon (five days on/five days off protocol) ever since 
she tested positive. All three are supposed to help boost or modulate the 
immune system. Interferon is the only thing I give that requires a 
prescription. 

I have no info on nebulizers. I'd forgotten about them until tonight. Had to 
Google to be reminded.

Best wishes for you and Arlo,

Lance

On May 10, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Marta Gasper  wrote:

> Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue director in 
> Fairbury, Nebraska.
> One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago also 
> positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some disorders 
> that'd make him hard to adopt.
> Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was FeLV+ 
> and some time before he succumbed  one of our foster kittens tested leuk +._ 
> Our vet concluded he would have been infected when younger, he was tested 
> after his uris kept returning; although we are no-kill and try to give them 
> the best hospice care sometimes euthanasia is the best option.
>  
> Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other than 
> being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight stopped eating 
> and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making gargling, squishy 
> noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and said it looked good, mild 
> gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be from further lesions/masses 
> down his throath._ In a few days and coincidentally he's developed bald spots 
> that bleed and dark spots on his fur. Vet said those were bacterial and 
> fungal infections. Right now he's on Clavamox and metacam and is starting to 
> eat again, I suggested interferon_we did have a FIV+ with stomatitis and 
> other problems that made a remarkable comeback on it_and he agreed to 
> administer it though because Arlo has all these symptoms and because he knows 
> we're on a limited budget he talked about considering the euthanasia 
> alternative as Arlo won't get better.
> I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't know 
> how much Interferon is right now etc.
>  
> Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if the 
> cat is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if and what 
> cancer he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even try other 
> treatments?
>  
> And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo, what 
> treatments if so? Thank-you and thank-you for this list
> Marta
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Re: [Felvtalk] New member from Nebraska

[Lee Evans]

Sorry about all your problems with poor Arlo. Along with the vet's 
recommendations you might want to try L-lysine, which is an immune system 
stimulant, especially for fighting herpes virus. Good luck with Arlo. You're 
doing the best you can. 


 
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>
> From: Marta Gasper 
>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:59 PM
>Subject: [Felvtalk] New member from Nebraska
> 
>
>
>Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue director in 
>Fairbury, Nebraska.
>One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago also 
>positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some disorders 
>that'd make him hard to adopt.
>Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was FeLV+ 
>and some time before he succumbed  one of our foster kittens tested leuk +._ 
>Our vet concluded he would have been infected when younger, he was tested 
>after his uris kept returning; although we are no-kill and try to give them 
>the best hospice care sometimes euthanasia is the best option.
> 
>Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other than 
>being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight stopped eating 
>and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making gargling, squishy 
>noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and said it looked good, mild 
>gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be from further lesions/masses down 
>his throath._ In a few days and coincidentally he's developed bald spots that 
>bleed and dark spots on his fur. Vet said those were bacterial and fungal 
>infections. Right now he's on Clavamox and metacam and is starting to eat 
>again, I suggested interferon_we did have a FIV+ with stomatitis and other 
>problems that made a remarkable comeback on it_and he agreed to administer it 
>though because Arlo has all these symptoms and because he knows we're on a 
>limited budget he talked about considering the euthanasia alternative as Arlo 
>won't get better.
>I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't know 
>how much Interferon is right now etc.
> 
>Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if the cat 
>is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if and what cancer 
>he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even try other treatments?
> 
>And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo, what 
>treatments if so? Thank-you and thank-you for this list
>Marta
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[Felvtalk] New member from Nebraska

[Marta Gasper]

Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue director in 
Fairbury, Nebraska.
One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago also 
positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some disorders 
that'd make him hard to adopt.
Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was FeLV+ and 
some time before he succumbed  one of our foster kittens tested leuk +._ Our 
vet concluded he would have been infected when younger, he was tested after his 
uris kept returning; although we are no-kill and try to give them the best 
hospice care sometimes euthanasia is the best option.
 
Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other than 
being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight stopped eating 
and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making gargling, squishy 
noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and said it looked good, mild 
gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be from further lesions/masses down 
his throath._ In a few days and coincidentally he's developed bald spots that 
bleed and dark spots on his fur. Vet said those were bacterial and fungal 
infections. Right now he's on Clavamox and metacam and is starting to eat 
again, I suggested interferon_we did have a FIV+ with stomatitis and other 
problems that made a remarkable comeback on it_and he agreed to administer it 
though because Arlo has all these symptoms and because he knows we're on a 
limited budget he talked about considering the euthanasia alternative as Arlo 
won't get better.
I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't know how 
much Interferon is right now etc.
 
Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if the cat 
is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if and what cancer 
he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even try other treatments?
 
And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo, what 
treatments if so? Thank-you and thank-you for this list
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Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD cats with the new drugs

[Beth]

You aren't alone & thank you for giving this kitty a good life.
Beth

I-Chun Catherine Chang  wrote:

>Thank you for all the friends providing your precious thoughts for Meowko.
>She seems doing fairly well today - she finished up almost a whole can for
>today's dinner!
>
>I brought up using ImmunoRegulin, Acemannan, Interferon Alpha etc. with our
>vet yesterday. She however concerned about the safety of using
>ImmunoRegulin as she learned some reactions after injection may occur
>earlier. But she is very willing to listen to other people's experience and
>work with us.
>
>Does anyone have experience of using ImmunoRegulin on your FeLV cat? have
>you observed any issues/side effects after injection? (if you have gone
>through treatment plan by using ImmunoRegulin with your vet, may I possibly
>know where your vet is based, off the list, so that my vet may learn from
>your vet's experience as well?)
>
>Again, thank you very much (reading the responses does make me feel that
>Meow and I are not alone in this battle)
>
>Catherine
>
>
>
>On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Beth  wrote:
>
>> The vaccine will not make them test positive, the FIV vaccine does that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>
>>
>>
>>   --
>>  *From:* Dana Giordano 
>> *To:* "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 25, 2013 11:15 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old
>> CKD cats with the new drugs
>>
>> Wait- If u get the vaccine, don't they test positive anyway? And ditto-
>> shots of FeLV confused me too. Not sure how its meant.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Beth  wrote:
>>
>> Shots of FeLV?
>>
>>
>> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>
>>
>>
>>   --
>>  *From:* Sharon Catalan 
>> *To:* "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:15 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old
>> CKD cats with the new drugs
>>
>> Hello Catherine,
>>
>> My cat Mr Gray is about 14 years old.  3 years ago, he was diagnosed with
>> Felv.  He gets regular shots of Felv and today, he's healthier than ever.
>> Try it.  It may lengthen the life of your kitty.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 24, 2013, at 12:46 PM, "I-Chun C. C. Chang " 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Dear Felvalk friends,
>> >
>> > I am very new to this group and was hoping to get some advice for the
>> treatment  about my currently very sick cat.
>> >
>> > My cat is 16 years old, who came to the States with me 6 years ago. I
>> got her when she was 7 (she was abandoned by the previous house owner...)
>> After I got her, she was tested twice negative for FeLV and vaccinated for
>> four years. From then she has been a totally indoor cat. I later adopted
>> another cat,  who was also tested negative twice and vaccinated for three
>> years.  From then on, since they have been complete indoor apartment cats
>> with no exposure to other cats and the little one always got some reaction
>> to the vaccine, we stopped vaccinating them for FeLV.
>> >
>> > Last Friday, my 16 years old cat was getting weak, my husband and I
>> rushed her to the ER and were told that she was in sever anemia (pcv less
>> than 10%) due to her chronic kidney disease. Two blood transfusions has
>> been done, but her response to blood transfusions was poor. Doctors then
>> concerned that not only her red blood cell count is low, her white blood
>> cell count is also very low. So the doctors ran the FeLV test again on
>> Tuesday, and it came back positive (!!) (we also rushed our younger one for
>> test yesterday; but he stays negative, and we added a booster vaccine on
>> him).
>> >
>> > We are getting our 16 years old back tonight. Doctors implicitly has
>> mentioned that FeLV has no cure, plus her Kidney situation (late stage
>> CKD), she may not live long... we were also suggested to consider putting
>> her into sleep soon. But I luckily found last night there is this emailist,
>> and on the website there are several drugs listed for possible treatment
>> plans: ImmunoRegulin, Acemannan, Interferon Alpha etc.
>> >
>> > Do anyone in this emaillist have experience 

Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKDcats with the new drugs

[gcruser]

FIV vaccine makes cats test positive for FIV.  FeLV vaccine does not have that 
problem.

Gary

From: Dana Giordano 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 10:15 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKDcats 
with the new drugs

Wait- If u get the vaccine, don't they test positive anyway? And ditto- shots 
of FeLV confused me too. Not sure how its meant.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 25, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Beth  wrote:


  Shots of FeLV?




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Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD cats with the new drugs

[gcruser]

I have tried IR, but it did not have any noticeable effect on my cats, the 
experience of othe.  There were one or two places selling it in the US asrs may 
be different.  I used Acemannan several times to reverse anemia with good 
success.  Unfortunately, the company who made it went bankrupt and it is no 
longer available as far as I know.  Interferon Alpha is human injectable 
interferon diluted way down and given orally to cats.  There were one or two 
places in the US selling it in the diluted form a couple of years ago, but I 
don’t know who sells it now.  Interferon Omega is feline interferon and is 
available from the UK.  At one time it was difficult to import, but supposedly 
pretty easy now.  It is more expensive, I seem to remember a minimum order was 
around $400 some time ago.  If your cat has kidney failure, that can cause 
anemia as the kidneys produce a substance called Ethropoietin which is needed 
to produce red blood cells.  Sometimes using Epogen or a similar drug will aid 
this process in cats with kidney failure.

Gary

From: I-Chun Catherine Chang 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD cats 
with the new drugs

Thank you for all the friends providing your precious thoughts for Meowko. She 
seems doing fairly well today - she finished up almost a whole can for today's 
dinner!


I brought up using ImmunoRegulin, Acemannan, Interferon Alpha etc. with our vet 
yesterday. She however concerned about the safety of using ImmunoRegulin as she 
learned some reactions after injection may occur earlier. But she is very 
willing to listen to other people's experience and work with us.  


Does anyone have experience of using ImmunoRegulin on your FeLV cat? have you 
observed any issues/side effects after injection? (if you have gone through 
treatment plan by using ImmunoRegulin with your vet, may I possibly know where 
your vet is based, off the list, so that my vet may learn from your vet's 
experience as well?)


Again, thank you very much (reading the responses does make me feel that Meow 
and I are not alone in this battle)


Catherine 



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Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD cats with the new drugs

[I-Chun Catherine Chang]

Thank you for all the friends providing your precious thoughts for Meowko.
She seems doing fairly well today - she finished up almost a whole can for
today's dinner!

I brought up using ImmunoRegulin, Acemannan, Interferon Alpha etc. with our
vet yesterday. She however concerned about the safety of using
ImmunoRegulin as she learned some reactions after injection may occur
earlier. But she is very willing to listen to other people's experience and
work with us.

Does anyone have experience of using ImmunoRegulin on your FeLV cat? have
you observed any issues/side effects after injection? (if you have gone
through treatment plan by using ImmunoRegulin with your vet, may I possibly
know where your vet is based, off the list, so that my vet may learn from
your vet's experience as well?)

Again, thank you very much (reading the responses does make me feel that
Meow and I are not alone in this battle)

Catherine



On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Beth  wrote:

> The vaccine will not make them test positive, the FIV vaccine does that.
>
>
>
> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* Dana Giordano 
> *To:* "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 25, 2013 11:15 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old
> CKD cats with the new drugs
>
> Wait- If u get the vaccine, don't they test positive anyway? And ditto-
> shots of FeLV confused me too. Not sure how its meant.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Beth  wrote:
>
> Shots of FeLV?
>
>
> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* Sharon Catalan 
> *To:* "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:15 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old
> CKD cats with the new drugs
>
> Hello Catherine,
>
> My cat Mr Gray is about 14 years old.  3 years ago, he was diagnosed with
> Felv.  He gets regular shots of Felv and today, he's healthier than ever.
> Try it.  It may lengthen the life of your kitty.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 24, 2013, at 12:46 PM, "I-Chun C. C. Chang " 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Dear Felvalk friends,
> >
> > I am very new to this group and was hoping to get some advice for the
> treatment  about my currently very sick cat.
> >
> > My cat is 16 years old, who came to the States with me 6 years ago. I
> got her when she was 7 (she was abandoned by the previous house owner...)
> After I got her, she was tested twice negative for FeLV and vaccinated for
> four years. From then she has been a totally indoor cat. I later adopted
> another cat,  who was also tested negative twice and vaccinated for three
> years.  From then on, since they have been complete indoor apartment cats
> with no exposure to other cats and the little one always got some reaction
> to the vaccine, we stopped vaccinating them for FeLV.
> >
> > Last Friday, my 16 years old cat was getting weak, my husband and I
> rushed her to the ER and were told that she was in sever anemia (pcv less
> than 10%) due to her chronic kidney disease. Two blood transfusions has
> been done, but her response to blood transfusions was poor. Doctors then
> concerned that not only her red blood cell count is low, her white blood
> cell count is also very low. So the doctors ran the FeLV test again on
> Tuesday, and it came back positive (!!) (we also rushed our younger one for
> test yesterday; but he stays negative, and we added a booster vaccine on
> him).
> >
> > We are getting our 16 years old back tonight. Doctors implicitly has
> mentioned that FeLV has no cure, plus her Kidney situation (late stage
> CKD), she may not live long... we were also suggested to consider putting
> her into sleep soon. But I luckily found last night there is this emailist,
> and on the website there are several drugs listed for possible treatment
> plans: ImmunoRegulin, Acemannan, Interferon Alpha etc.
> >
> > Do anyone in this emaillist have experience about treatment on old FeLV
> cat with CKD by using these new drugs? If yes, may I learn your experience?
> I really don't want to lose my girl in this way.I am getting my degree
> soon, and do hope at least I can have her come back to my home country with
> me...
> >
> > Sorry for such a long email, and thank you very much!
> >
> > I. Catherine
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD cats with the new drugs

[Beth]

The vaccine will not make them test positive, the FIV vaccine does that.


 
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 From: Dana Giordano 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD cats 
with the new drugs
 


Wait- If u get the vaccine, don't they test positive anyway? And ditto- shots 
of FeLV confused me too. Not sure how its meant.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 25, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Beth  wrote:


Shots of FeLV?
>
>
>
> 
>Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
> 
>
>
>
>
> From: Sharon Catalan 
>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
>Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:15 AM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD cats 
>with the new drugs
> 
>
>Hello Catherine,
>
>My cat Mr Gray is about 14 years old.  3 years ago, he was diagnosed with 
>Felv.  He gets regular shots of Felv and today, he's healthier than ever.  Try 
>it.  It may lengthen the life of your kitty.  
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Apr 24, 2013, at 12:46 PM, "I-Chun C. C. Chang "  
>wrote:
>
>> 
>> Dear Felvalk friends, 
>> 
>> I am very new to this group and was hoping to get some advice for the 
>> treatment  about my currently very sick cat.
>> 
>> My cat is 16 years old, who came to the States with me 6 years ago. I got 
>> her when she was 7 (she was abandoned by the previous house owner...)  After 
>> I got her, she was tested twice negative for FeLV and vaccinated for four 
>> years. From then she has been a totally indoor cat. I later adopted another 
>> cat, 
 who was also tested negative twice and vaccinated for three years.  From then 
on, since they have been complete indoor apartment cats with no exposure to 
other cats and the little one always got some reaction to the vaccine, we 
stopped vaccinating them for FeLV.    
>> 
>> Last Friday, my 16 years old cat was getting weak, my husband and I rushed 
>> her to the ER and were told that she was in sever anemia (pcv less than 10%) 
>> due to her chronic kidney disease. Two blood transfusions has been done, but 
>> her response to blood transfusions was poor. Doctors then concerned that not 
>> only her red blood cell count is low, her white blood cell count is also 
>> very low. So the doctors ran the FeLV test again on Tuesday, and it came 
>> back positive (!!) (we also rushed our younger one for test yesterday; but 
>> he stays negative, and we added a booster vaccine on him). 
>> 
>> We are getting our 16 years old back tonight. Doctors implicitly
 has mentioned that FeLV has no cure, plus her Kidney situation (late stage 
CKD), she may not live long... we were also suggested to consider putting her 
into sleep soon. But I luckily found last night there is this emailist, and on 
the website there are several drugs listed for possible treatment plans: 
ImmunoRegulin, Acemannan, Interferon Alpha etc.  
>> 
>> Do anyone in this emaillist have experience about treatment on old FeLV cat 
>> with CKD by using these new drugs? If yes, may I learn your experience? I 
>> really don't want to lose my girl in this way.I am getting my degree 
>> soon, and do hope at least I can have her come back to my home country with 
>> me... 
>> 
>> Sorry for such a long email, and thank you very much!
>> 
>> I. Catherine  
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[Dana Giordano]

Wait- If u get the vaccine, don't they test positive anyway? And ditto- shots 
of FeLV confused me too. Not sure how its meant.

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On Apr 25, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Beth  wrote:

> Shots of FeLV?
> 
>  
> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
>  
> 
> From: Sharon Catalan 
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD 
> cats with the new drugs
> 
> Hello Catherine,
> 
> My cat Mr Gray is about 14 years old.  3 years ago, he was diagnosed with 
> Felv.  He gets regular shots of Felv and today, he's healthier than ever.  
> Try it.  It may lengthen the life of your kitty.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 24, 2013, at 12:46 PM, "I-Chun C. C. Chang "  
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Dear Felvalk friends, 
> > 
> > I am very new to this group and was hoping to get some advice for the 
> > treatment  about my currently very sick cat.
> > 
> > My cat is 16 years old, who came to the States with me 6 years ago. I got 
> > her when she was 7 (she was abandoned by the previous house owner...)  
> > After I got her, she was tested twice negative for FeLV and vaccinated for 
> > four years. From then she has been a totally indoor cat. I later adopted 
> > another cat,  who was also tested negative twice and vaccinated for three 
> > years.  From then on, since they have been complete indoor apartment cats 
> > with no exposure to other cats and the little one always got some reaction 
> > to the vaccine, we stopped vaccinating them for FeLV.
> > 
> > Last Friday, my 16 years old cat was getting weak, my husband and I rushed 
> > her to the ER and were told that she was in sever anemia (pcv less than 
> > 10%) due to her chronic kidney disease. Two blood transfusions has been 
> > done, but her response to blood transfusions was poor. Doctors then 
> > concerned that not only her red blood cell count is low, her white blood 
> > cell count is also very low. So the doctors ran the FeLV test again on 
> > Tuesday, and it came back positive (!!) (we also rushed our younger one for 
> > test yesterday; but he stays negative, and we added a booster vaccine on 
> > him). 
> > 
> > We are getting our 16 years old back tonight. Doctors implicitly has 
> > mentioned that FeLV has no cure, plus her Kidney situation (late stage 
> > CKD), she may not live long... we were also suggested to consider putting 
> > her into sleep soon. But I luckily found last night there is this emailist, 
> > and on the website there are several drugs listed for possible treatment 
> > plans: ImmunoRegulin, Acemannan, Interferon Alpha etc.  
> > 
> > Do anyone in this emaillist have experience about treatment on old FeLV cat 
> > with CKD by using these new drugs? If yes, may I learn your experience? I 
> > really don't want to lose my girl in this way.I am getting my degree 
> > soon, and do hope at least I can have her come back to my home country with 
> > me... 
> > 
> > Sorry for such a long email, and thank you very much!
> > 
> > I. Catherine  
> > 
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[Beth]

Dying from anemia on her own could be a pretty painful way to go. The cat is 
not getting oxygen to the parts of the body it needs. breathing becomes 
labored. We can give them a gift of passing over before they suffer. That is 
something we cannot do for out human loved ones.


 
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 From: WESTNINTHST 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD   
catswith the new drugs
 


Don't know if u recd this earlier.I don't understand why your cat sud be 
felv??? Also if she leaving you let her go when she isready in her own home


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Beth  wrote:



Catherine -

Pcv of 10 is dangerously low. I've never had an FeLV cat recover from one that 
low. I don't know if anyone else has, but a pcv that low needs to be checked 
frequently (once or twice per week).

Beth


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 From: I-Chun C. C. Chang 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:46 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD cats with 
the new drugs
 



Dear Felvalk friends, 

I am very new to this group and was hoping to get some advice for the treatment 
 about my currently very sick cat.

My cat is 16 years old, who came to the States with me 6 years ago. I got her 
when she was 7 (she was abandoned by the previous house owner...)  After I got 
her, she was tested twice negative for FeLV and vaccinated for four years. From 
then she has been a totally indoor cat. I later adopted another cat,  who was 
also tested negative twice and vaccinated for three years.  From then on, since 
they have been complete indoor apartment cats with no exposure to other cats 
and the little one always got some reaction to the vaccine, we stopped 
vaccinating them for FeLV.    



Last Friday, my 16 years old cat was getting weak, my husband and I rushed her 
to the ER and were told that she was in sever anemia (pcv less than 10%) due to 
her chronic kidney disease. Two blood transfusions has been done, but her 
response to blood transfusions was poor. Doctors then concerned that not only 
her red blood cell count is low, her white blood cell count is also very low. 
So the doctors ran the FeLV test again on Tuesday, and it came back positive 
(!!) (we also rushed our younger one for test yesterday; but he stays negative, 
and we added a booster vaccine on him). 


We are getting our 16 years old back tonight. Doctors implicitly has mentioned 
that FeLV has no cure, plus her Kidney situation (late stage CKD), she may not 
live long... we were also suggested to consider putting her into sleep soon. 
But I luckily found last night there is this emailist, and on the website there 
are several drugs listed for possible treatment plans: ImmunoRegulin, 
Acemannan, Interferon Alpha etc.  


Do anyone in this emaillist have experience about treatment on old FeLV cat 
with CKD by using these new drugs? If yes, may I learn your experience? I 
really don't want to lose my girl in this way.I am getting my degree soon, 
and do hope at least I can have her come back to my home country with me... 

Sorry for such a long email, and thank you very much!


I. Catherine  


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[Beth]

Shots of FeLV?


 
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 From: Sharon Catalan 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD cats 
with the new drugs
 

Hello Catherine,

My cat Mr Gray is about 14 years old.  3 years ago, he was diagnosed with Felv. 
 He gets regular shots of Felv and today, he's healthier than ever.  Try it.  
It may lengthen the life of your kitty.  

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 24, 2013, at 12:46 PM, "I-Chun C. C. Chang "  
wrote:

> 
> Dear Felvalk friends, 
> 
> I am very new to this group and was hoping to get some advice for the 
> treatment  about my currently very sick cat.
> 
> My cat is 16 years old, who came to the States with me 6 years ago. I got her 
> when she was 7 (she was abandoned by the previous house owner...)  After I 
> got her, she was tested twice negative for FeLV and vaccinated for four 
> years. From then she has been a totally indoor cat. I later adopted another 
> cat,  who was also tested negative twice and vaccinated for three years.  
> From then on, since they have been complete indoor apartment cats with no 
> exposure to other cats and the little one always got some reaction to the 
> vaccine, we stopped vaccinating them for FeLV.    
> 
> Last Friday, my 16 years old cat was getting weak, my husband and I rushed 
> her to the ER and were told that she was in sever anemia (pcv less than 10%) 
> due to her chronic kidney disease. Two blood transfusions has been done, but 
> her response to blood transfusions was poor. Doctors then concerned that not 
> only her red blood cell count is low, her white blood cell count is also very 
> low. So the doctors ran the FeLV test again on Tuesday, and it came back 
> positive (!!) (we also rushed our younger one for test yesterday; but he 
> stays negative, and we added a booster vaccine on him). 
> 
> We are getting our 16 years old back tonight. Doctors implicitly has 
> mentioned that FeLV has no cure, plus her Kidney situation (late stage CKD), 
> she may not live long... we were also suggested to consider putting her into 
> sleep soon. But I luckily found last night there is this emailist, and on the 
> website there are several drugs listed for possible treatment plans: 
> ImmunoRegulin, Acemannan, Interferon Alpha etc.  
> 
> Do anyone in this emaillist have experience about treatment on old FeLV cat 
> with CKD by using these new drugs? If yes, may I learn your experience? I 
> really don't want to lose my girl in this way.I am getting my degree 
> soon, and do hope at least I can have her come back to my home country with 
> me... 
> 
> Sorry for such a long email, and thank you very much!
> 
> I. Catherine  
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[Sharon Catalan]

Hello Catherine,

My cat Mr Gray is about 14 years old.  3 years ago, he was diagnosed with Felv. 
 He gets regular shots of Felv and today, he's healthier than ever.  Try it.  
It may lengthen the life of your kitty.  

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 24, 2013, at 12:46 PM, "I-Chun C. C. Chang "  
wrote:

> 
> Dear Felvalk friends, 
> 
> I am very new to this group and was hoping to get some advice for the 
> treatment  about my currently very sick cat.
> 
> My cat is 16 years old, who came to the States with me 6 years ago. I got her 
> when she was 7 (she was abandoned by the previous house owner...)  After I 
> got her, she was tested twice negative for FeLV and vaccinated for four 
> years. From then she has been a totally indoor cat. I later adopted another 
> cat,  who was also tested negative twice and vaccinated for three years.  
> From then on, since they have been complete indoor apartment cats with no 
> exposure to other cats and the little one always got some reaction to the 
> vaccine, we stopped vaccinating them for FeLV.
> 
> Last Friday, my 16 years old cat was getting weak, my husband and I rushed 
> her to the ER and were told that she was in sever anemia (pcv less than 10%) 
> due to her chronic kidney disease. Two blood transfusions has been done, but 
> her response to blood transfusions was poor. Doctors then concerned that not 
> only her red blood cell count is low, her white blood cell count is also very 
> low. So the doctors ran the FeLV test again on Tuesday, and it came back 
> positive (!!) (we also rushed our younger one for test yesterday; but he 
> stays negative, and we added a booster vaccine on him). 
> 
> We are getting our 16 years old back tonight. Doctors implicitly has 
> mentioned that FeLV has no cure, plus her Kidney situation (late stage CKD), 
> she may not live long... we were also suggested to consider putting her into 
> sleep soon. But I luckily found last night there is this emailist, and on the 
> website there are several drugs listed for possible treatment plans: 
> ImmunoRegulin, Acemannan, Interferon Alpha etc.  
> 
> Do anyone in this emaillist have experience about treatment on old FeLV cat 
> with CKD by using these new drugs? If yes, may I learn your experience? I 
> really don't want to lose my girl in this way.I am getting my degree 
> soon, and do hope at least I can have her come back to my home country with 
> me... 
> 
> Sorry for such a long email, and thank you very much!
> 
> I. Catherine  
> 
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[WESTNINTHST]

Don't know if u recd this earlier.I don't understand why your cat sud be 
felv??? Also if she leaving you let her go when she isready in her own home


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Beth  wrote:

Catherine -

Pcv of 10 is dangerously low. I've never had an FeLV cat recover from one that 
low. I don't know if anyone else has, but a pcv that low needs to be checked 
frequently (once or twice per week).

Beth

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From: I-Chun C. C. Chang 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:46 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD cats with 
the new drugs


Dear Felvalk friends, 

I am very new to this group and was hoping to get some advice for the treatment 
 about my currently very sick cat.

My cat is 16 years old, who came to the States with me 6 years ago. I got her 
when she was 7 (she was abandoned by the previous house owner...)  After I got 
her, she was tested twice negative for FeLV and vaccinated for four years. From 
then she has been a totally indoor cat. I later adopted another cat,  who was 
also tested negative twice and vaccinated for three years.  From then on, since 
they have been complete indoor apartment cats with no exposure to other cats 
and the little one always got some reaction to the vaccine, we stopped 
vaccinating them for FeLV.    

Last Friday, my 16 years old cat was getting weak, my husband and I rushed her 
to the ER and were told that she was in sever anemia (pcv less than 10%) due to 
her chronic kidney disease. Two blood transfusions has been done, but her 
response to blood transfusions was poor. Doctors then concerned that not only 
her red blood cell count is low, her white blood cell count is also very low. 
So the doctors ran the FeLV test again on Tuesday, and it came back positive 
(!!) (we also rushed our younger one for test yesterday; but he stays negative, 
and we added a booster vaccine on him). 

We are getting our 16 years old back tonight. Doctors implicitly has mentioned 
that FeLV has no cure, plus her Kidney situation (late stage CKD), she may not 
live long... we were also suggested to consider putting her into sleep soon. 
But I luckily found last night there is this emailist, and on the website there 
are several drugs listed for possible treatment plans: ImmunoRegulin, 
Acemannan, Interferon Alpha etc.  

Do anyone in this emaillist have experience about treatment on old FeLV cat 
with CKD by using these new drugs? If yes, may I learn your experience? I 
really don't want to lose my girl in this way.I am getting my degree soon, 
and do hope at least I can have her come back to my home country with me... 

Sorry for such a long email, and thank you very much!

I. Catherine  


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[Beth]

Catherine -

Pcv of 10 is dangerously low. I've never had an FeLV cat recover from one that 
low. I don't know if anyone else has, but a pcv that low needs to be checked 
frequently (once or twice per week).

Beth


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 From: I-Chun C. C. Chang 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:46 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD cats with 
the new drugs
 



Dear Felvalk friends, 

I am very new to this group and was hoping to get some advice for the treatment 
 about my currently very sick cat.

My cat is 16 years old, who came to the States with me 6 years ago. I got her 
when she was 7 (she was abandoned by the previous house owner...)  After I got 
her, she was tested twice negative for FeLV and vaccinated for four years. From 
then she has been a totally indoor cat. I later adopted another cat,  who was 
also tested negative twice and vaccinated for three years.  From then on, since 
they have been complete indoor apartment cats with no exposure to other cats 
and the little one always got some reaction to the vaccine, we stopped 
vaccinating them for FeLV.    



Last Friday, my 16 years old cat was getting weak, my husband and I rushed her 
to the ER and were told that she was in sever anemia (pcv less than 10%) due to 
her chronic kidney disease. Two blood transfusions has been done, but her 
response to blood transfusions was poor. Doctors then concerned that not only 
her red blood cell count is low, her white blood cell count is also very low. 
So the doctors ran the FeLV test again on Tuesday, and it came back positive 
(!!) (we also rushed our younger one for test yesterday; but he stays negative, 
and we added a booster vaccine on him). 


We are getting our 16 years old back tonight. Doctors implicitly has mentioned 
that FeLV has no cure, plus her Kidney situation (late stage CKD), she may not 
live long... we were also suggested to consider putting her into sleep soon. 
But I luckily found last night there is this emailist, and on the website there 
are several drugs listed for possible treatment plans: ImmunoRegulin, 
Acemannan, Interferon Alpha etc.  


Do anyone in this emaillist have experience about treatment on old FeLV cat 
with CKD by using these new drugs? If yes, may I learn your experience? I 
really don't want to lose my girl in this way.I am getting my degree soon, 
and do hope at least I can have her come back to my home country with me... 

Sorry for such a long email, and thank you very much!


I. Catherine  


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[Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD cats with the new drugs

[I-Chun C. C. Chang]

Dear Felvalk friends,

I am very new to this group and was hoping to get some advice for the
treatment  about my currently very sick cat.

My cat is 16 years old, who came to the States with me 6 years ago. I got
her when she was 7 (she was abandoned by the previous house owner...)
After I got her, she was tested twice negative for FeLV and vaccinated for
four years. From then she has been a totally indoor cat. I later adopted
another cat,  who was also tested negative twice and vaccinated for three
years.  From then on, since they have been complete indoor apartment cats
with no exposure to other cats and the little one always got some reaction
to the vaccine, we stopped vaccinating them for FeLV.

Last Friday, my 16 years old cat was getting weak, my husband and I rushed
her to the ER and were told that she was in sever anemia (pcv less than
10%) due to her chronic kidney disease. Two blood transfusions has been
done, but her response to blood transfusions was poor. Doctors then
concerned that not only her red blood cell count is low, her white blood
cell count is also very low. So the doctors ran the FeLV test again on
Tuesday, and it came back positive (!!) (we also rushed our younger one for
test yesterday; but he stays negative, and we added a booster vaccine on
him).

We are getting our 16 years old back tonight. Doctors implicitly has
mentioned that FeLV has no cure, plus her Kidney situation (late stage
CKD), she may not live long... we were also suggested to consider putting
her into sleep soon. But I luckily found last night there is this emailist,
and on the website there are several drugs listed for possible treatment
plans: ImmunoRegulin, Acemannan, Interferon Alpha etc.

Do anyone in this emaillist have experience about treatment on old FeLV cat
with CKD by using these new drugs? If yes, may I learn your experience? I
really don't want to lose my girl in this way.I am getting my degree
soon, and do hope at least I can have her come back to my home country with
me...

Sorry for such a long email, and thank you very much!

I. Catherine
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[dlgegg]

Sorry to be lae, been off line for a few days.  I also have a mix of positive 
and negative cats.  My vet said vaccinate the negatives and all should be okay. 
 Mostly, lots of love, good food and cut down on the stress pllus run to the 
vet at the first sign of unusual behavior.  better and cheaper to catch things 
early than late.  


 Dianne Chance  wrote: 
> 
> Hello Group,
> I just joined your service and wondered if the group is still active.  I have 
> been searching for people who have experience dealing with feline leukemia 
> positive kitties.  My biggest question is about the testing results, can 
> results be a false positive?  How many times should a kitty be tested to have 
> confirmation without a doubt?  
> I would appreciate your responses.  dyan
> 
>  


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[Beth]

If the 2nd snap test is positive I would do an IFA (which is sent out to a 
lab). 
But you can do an IFA now. That is up to you. The IFA is expensive.

I have healthy non-FeLV cats who live quite well with my FeLV positive 
cats.They share food, water, & litter. My negative cats are all  vaccinated 
against FeLV.
I've been mixing FeLV and non-FeLV cats for 13 years with no transmission of 
the virus.
I've even mixed FIV+ cats with FeLV+ cats with no transmission of either virus.

Beth


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 From: Dianne Chance 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to the Group/Testing
 

Thank You for your response.  I value your experienced advise.

The kitty I have is now and has been in isolation since she showed up at my 
door on January 17th.  I have other healthy kitties in the house so I am being 
extremely cautious about handling this situation.  I took her to my vet who 
tested her with what I believe was the ELISA Screening.  She suggested that if 
I can hold her in isolation or find foster care for her she could test her 
again on Feb. 19th.  Do I understand that I should ask for the IFA test to be 
sent out at that time?  

This kitty does not look ill, has no parasites, and has been spayed.  She 
appears to be a trap and release kitty as her ear is tipped and she has a green 
dot tattoo at the spaying site.  I had no idea of all this information until 
the vet told me about it.  She also said kitty is under a year old.  

I was hoping that her next test would prove negative to give her a better 
chance of finding a new home.  I know I could not place her in any home with 
other cats should she be positive again.  

Blessings,
Dyan



 


--- On Tue, 2/5/13, Beth  wrote:


>From: Beth 
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to the Group/Testing
>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
>Date: Tuesday, February 5, 2013, 11:03 AM
>
>
>I believe Sharyl posted a link to this chart about testing
>
>http://www.felineleukemia.org/felvhlth.html
>
>My vet usually does an ELISA in house snap test. If positive we do it again 
>immediately to make sure the test was done right.
>If both tests come out positive, we do an IFA (sent to a lab) to see if
 the virus is in the bone marrow.
>If the IFA is positive, the cat is positive. There is no reversing the FeLV at 
>that point.
>If the IFA is negative, wait 90 days & re-do the ELISA snap test.
>If the ELISA snap test is still positive you can re-do the IFA at that point 
>to see if the virus is now replicating in the bone
 marrow.
>You can keep re-testing on the ELISA snap test unless you get a positive IFA, 
>but the tests are expensive.
>
>Basically a positive IFA means the cat is definitely positive & will not shake 
>the virus,
>
>
>
>The best thing is to get a vet experienced with FeLV & the testing process.
>
>
>Beth 
>
>Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
> 
>
>
>
>
> From: Dianne Chance 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 10:47 AM
>Subject: [Felvtalk] New to the Group
> 
>
>
>Hello Group,
>
>
>I just joined your service and wondered if the group is still active.  I have 
>been searching for people who have experience dealing with feline leukemia 
>positive kitties.  My biggest question is about the testing results, can 
>results be a false positive?  How many times should a kitty be tested to have 
>confirmation without a doubt?  
>
>
>I would appreciate your responses.  
>dyan
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] New to the Group/Testing

[Dianne Chance]

Thank You for your response.  I value your experienced advise.
The kitty I have is now and has been in isolation since she showed up at my 
door on January 17th.  I have other healthy kitties in the house so I am being 
extremely cautious about handling this situation.  I took her to my vet who 
tested her with what I believe was the ELISA Screening.  She suggested that if 
I can hold her in isolation or find foster care for her she could test her 
again on Feb. 19th.  Do I understand that I should ask for the IFA test to be 
sent out at that time?  
This kitty does not look ill, has no parasites, and has been spayed.  She 
appears to be a trap and release kitty as her ear is tipped and she has a green 
dot tattoo at the spaying site.  I had no idea of all this information until 
the vet told me about it.  She also said kitty is under a year old.  
I was hoping that her next test would prove negative to give her a better 
chance of finding a new home.  I know I could not place her in any home with 
other cats should she be positive again.  
Blessings,Dyan


 


--- On Tue, 2/5/13, Beth  wrote:

From: Beth 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to the Group/Testing
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Date: Tuesday, February 5, 2013, 11:03 AM

I believe Sharyl posted a link to this chart about testing

http://www.felineleukemia.org/felvhlth.html

My vet usually does an ELISA in house snap test. If positive we do it again 
immediately to make sure the test was done right.
If both tests come out positive, we do an IFA (sent to a lab) to see if the 
virus is in the bone marrow.
If the IFA is positive, the cat is positive. There is no reversing the FeLV at 
that point.
If the IFA is negative, wait 90 days & re-do the ELISA snap test.
If the ELISA snap test is still positive you can re-do the IFA at that point to 
see if the virus is now replicating in the bone
 marrow.
You can keep re-testing on the ELISA snap test unless you get a positive IFA, 
but the tests are expensive.

Basically a positive IFA means the cat is definitely positive & will not shake 
the virus,

The best thing is to get a vet experienced with FeLV & the testing process.
Beth 
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From: Dianne Chance 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 10:47 AM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] New to the Group
   


Hello Group,
I just joined your service and wondered if the group is still active.  I have 
been searching for people who have experience dealing with feline leukemia 
positive kitties.  My biggest question is about the testing results, can 
results be a false positive?  How many times should a kitty be tested to have 
confirmation without a doubt?  
I would appreciate your responses.  dyan

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to the Group

[Christiane Biagi]

Sort of depends.  There are 2 standard tests vets use.  First is the Elissa
'snap' test.  Its essentially a test strip and vet pricks the dog to get a
drop of blood and results are shown by color on the strip-test is done right
in the office.  Second is the IFA in which vet draws blood and sends to lab.
It is possible for a kitty to test pos on Elissa and some time later test
neg on the IFA-means cat has likely shed the virus.  So answer would sort of
depend on what test was done and how old the cat is.  

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Dianne Chance
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:48 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New to the Group

 



Hello Group,

 

I just joined your service and wondered if the group is still active.  I
have been searching for people who have experience dealing with feline
leukemia positive kitties.  My biggest question is about the testing
results, can results be a false positive?  How many times should a kitty be
tested to have confirmation without a doubt?  

 

I would appreciate your responses.  

dyan



 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to the Group/Testing

[Beth]

I believe Sharyl posted a link to this chart about testing

http://www.felineleukemia.org/felvhlth.html

My vet usually does an ELISA in house snap test. If positive we do it again 
immediately to make sure the test was done right.
If both tests come out positive, we do an IFA (sent to a lab) to see if the 
virus is in the bone marrow.
If the IFA is positive, the cat is positive. There is no reversing the FeLV at 
that point.
If the IFA is negative, wait 90 days & re-do the ELISA snap test.
If the ELISA snap test is still positive you can re-do the IFA at that point to 
see if the virus is now replicating in the bone marrow.
You can keep re-testing on the ELISA snap test unless you get a positive IFA, 
but the tests are expensive.

Basically a positive IFA means the cat is definitely positive & will not shake 
the virus,


The best thing is to get a vet experienced with FeLV & the testing process.

Beth 

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 From: Dianne Chance 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 10:47 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] New to the Group
 


Hello Group,

I just joined your service and wondered if the group is still active.  I have 
been searching for people who have experience dealing with feline leukemia 
positive kitties.  My biggest question is about the testing results, can 
results be a false positive?  How many times should a kitty be tested to have 
confirmation without a doubt?  

I would appreciate your responses.  
dyan


 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] New to the Group

[Terri Brown]

Hi Dyan,

We are still here!  Sometimes the list is "quiet".

I have no FeLV+ kitties at present.however, I do have some experience.  I'm 
at work right now, so I cannot answer your question in detail at the moment.

There are many on the list with even more expertise than I and I am certain 
that someone will write to you soon!

Welcome to the list, although I am sorry you had to find us.

=^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: Ruthie, 
Samantha, 
Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato Vampire 
=^..^=
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  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:47 AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] New to the Group



Hello Group, 


I just joined your service and wondered if the group is still active.  
I have been searching for people who have experience dealing with feline 
leukemia positive kitties.  My biggest question is about the testing results, 
can results be a false positive?  How many times should a kitty be tested to 
have confirmation without a doubt?  


I would appreciate your responses.  
dyan


 
   
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[Felvtalk] New to the Group

[Dianne Chance]

Hello Group,
I just joined your service and wondered if the group is still active.  I have 
been searching for people who have experience dealing with feline leukemia 
positive kitties.  My biggest question is about the testing results, can 
results be a false positive?  How many times should a kitty be tested to have 
confirmation without a doubt?  
I would appreciate your responses.  dyan

 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten (Lisa)/REPLY

[GRAS]

All the Hill's Science Diet foods are absolute junk!  Look at the
ingredients - you can do better reading labels on better quality foods, and
get better food for less.  Instead of A-D, to mix with meds and use syringe,
I cook chicken and then use my Magic Bullet to make a chicken mousse with
the broth that chicken was cooked in (after removing the fat). Our cats
actually used to prefer the dry Science Diet to the cans!

Natalie

 

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot winkler
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 6:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten (Lisa)/REPLY

 

Yes, that ino does help.  Thanks.  I'll look for the Nutra-Cal.  Is it sort
of like "Ensure"?  Or is it that brown gel like substance that comes in a
tube?  I used to give my one cat who had hepatitis that stuff.  Don't know
if it's the same.  I'll check it out.  It's funny but Chloe, FELV pos does
not like the dry Sci Diet food that much.  She prefers wet food.  She's very
finicky and i go thru lots of cans for her since she is so fussy.  

 

  _  

From: Lisa Conner 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten (Lisa)

 

 

I used Nutra-Cal for my Felv kitty, Prancer that just passed away. He lived
for over 9 years!  I ordered it from my Vet or Entirely Pets.com
<http://pets.com/> .  Also,  I used Interferon for many years and this was
only $25.00 for a bottle, the bottle lasted for about 2 months for his size
(10 lbs).   Prancer did not like wet food and I typically fed him Science
Diet or Purina One.  I know that is a bit pricey for some on a budget, but I
swear by it for a Felv catJ  

 

I also used these for a Felv Kitten (3 weeks old) that somebody threw out on
the street and I was lucky enough to be walking the dog when they dumped the
kitten off.   A friend of mine adopted the kitten and we are waiting to
retest the kitten.  The kitten is doing great!  Cisco actually had hookworms
and I found out from the vet that hookworms can kill a kitten!!  Hope this
information helps!

 

Lisa Conner


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Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten (Lisa)/REPLY

[dot winkler]

Yes, that ino does help.  Thanks.  I'll look for the Nutra-Cal.  Is it sort of 
like "Ensure"?  Or is it that brown gel like substance that comes in a tube?  I 
used to give my one cat who had hepatitis that stuff.  Don't know if it's the 
same.  I'll check it out.  It's funny but Chloe, FELV pos does not like the dry 
Sci Diet food that much.  She prefers wet food.  She's very finicky and i go 
thru lots of cans for her since she is so fussy.  



 From: Lisa Conner 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten (Lisa)
 

 
 
I used Nutra-Cal for my Felv kitty, Prancer that just passed away. He lived for 
over 9 years!  I ordered it from my Vet or Entirely Pets.com.  Also,  I used 
Interferon for many years and this was  only $25.00 for a bottle, the bottle 
lasted for about 2 months for his size (10 lbs).   Prancer did not like wet 
food and I typically fed him Science Diet or Purina One.  I know that is a bit 
pricey for some on a budget, but I swear by it for a Felv catJ  
 
I also used these for a Felv Kitten (3 weeks old) that somebody threw out on 
the street and I was lucky enough to be walking the dog when they dumped the 
kitten off.   A friend of mine adopted the kitten and we are waiting to retest 
the kitten.  The kitten is doing great!  Cisco actually had hookworms and I 
found out from the vet that hookworms can kill a kitten!!  Hope this 
information helps!
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten (Lisa)

[Lisa Conner]

I used Nutra-Cal for my Felv kitty, Prancer that just passed away. He lived for 
over 9 years!  I ordered it from my Vet or Entirely Pets.com.  Also,  I used 
Interferon for many years and this was  only $25.00 for a bottle, the bottle 
lasted for about 2 months for his size (10 lbs).   Prancer did not like wet 
food and I typically fed him Science Diet or Purina One.  I know that is a bit 
pricey for some on a budget, but I swear by it for a Felv cat:)

I also used these for a Felv Kitten (3 weeks old) that somebody threw out on 
the street and I was lucky enough to be walking the dog when they dumped the 
kitten off.   A friend of mine adopted the kitten and we are waiting to retest 
the kitten.  The kitten is doing great!  Cisco actually had hookworms and I 
found out from the vet that hookworms can kill a kitten!!  Hope this 
information helps!

Lisa Conner
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Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten

[D.S.Louis]

I have a female FIV positive and she is 3 years oldLOVE her more each 
daygot her from pound when she was 3-4 monthsBest cat I ever 
had.Really a big lover
 
Dorothy

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten
  
For everyone that gave me advice a couple weeks ago in regards to the FeLuk/FIV 
re-testing of our 2 1/2 year old greybie baby, Tickles. He still tested 
positive for the FeLuk virus and now also is FIV positive. We apparently had 
him tested before the 8-12 week FIV onset. We are disappointed, but still love 
him and he will be with us for the rest of his life. We have chosen to keep him 
separate from the other three. I know there are those of you who mix your 
negatives with your positives who are vaccinated, but we do not want to do 
that. We feel that with any vaccine, nothing is 100% guaranteed. We want to be 
completely safe. We have a 6 year old dominant, ok, bitchy at times, female. I 
can already see them scrapping. Thank you to everyone for your input and great 
advice.  :)

Melissa L. McKenna

-Original Message- From: Lorrie
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 3:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten

I feel for you.. I rescued a litter of 4 kittens who all tested FelV
positive.  They are now about 4 1/2 months old and still very active and
playful with no sign of sickness. I plan to have them restested next month,
and I'm hoping they will all be negative by then.  They have three isolation
rooms to play in at my cat sanctuary, and I feed them well and keep them
stress free. This does help.

Lorrie

On 09-17, Maryam Ulomi wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm sorry for that first email. I wanted to find out if anyone had some
> advice and suggestions on nutrition for the little kitten I have rescue
> who is FeLV positive. She has tested positive and is the kitten of a feral
> cat, her glands are big but I'm hoping because she is now indoor and being
> cared for well she will test negative so I can keep her with my other two
> adult cats. I have been feeding her canned good with very high protein
> contents and no seafood, I read that was the recommended diet but any
> other suggestions, hints, are very welcome!
> 
> Thank you
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten

[Beth]

Thank you for keeping him. I looked at your pic of him on FB. Adorable!

Beth

McKenna's  wrote:

>For everyone that gave me advice a couple weeks ago in regards to the 
>FeLuk/FIV re-testing of our 2 1/2 year old greybie baby, Tickles. He still 
>tested positive for the FeLuk virus and now also is FIV positive. We 
>apparently had him tested before the 8-12 week FIV onset. We are 
>disappointed, but still love him and he will be with us for the rest of his 
>life. We have chosen to keep him separate from the other three. I know there 
>are those of you who mix your negatives with your positives who are 
>vaccinated, but we do not want to do that. We feel that with any vaccine, 
>nothing is 100% guaranteed. We want to be completely safe. We have a 6 year 
>old dominant, ok, bitchy at times, female. I can already see them scrapping. 
>Thank you to everyone for your input and great advice.  :)
>
>Melissa L. McKenna
>
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>From: Lorrie
>Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 3:30 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten
>
>I feel for you.. I rescued a litter of 4 kittens who all tested FelV
>positive.  They are now about 4 1/2 months old and still very active and
>playful with no sign of sickness. I plan to have them restested next month,
>and I'm hoping they will all be negative by then.  They have three isolation
>rooms to play in at my cat sanctuary, and I feed them well and keep them
>stress free. This does help.
>
>Lorrie
>
>On 09-17, Maryam Ulomi wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm sorry for that first email. I wanted to find out if anyone had some
>> advice and suggestions on nutrition for the little kitten I have rescue
>> who is FeLV positive. She has tested positive and is the kitten of a feral
>> cat, her glands are big but I'm hoping because she is now indoor and being
>> cared for well she will test negative so I can keep her with my other two
>> adult cats. I have been feeding her canned good with very high protein
>> contents and no seafood, I read that was the recommended diet but any
>> other suggestions, hints, are very welcome!
>>
>> Thank you
>>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten

[Lee Evans]

If you think he might be lonely by himself, consider getting him a spayed 
female FeLv+ cat around his age to keep him company.  Cats are very sociable 
animals.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





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Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten
 
For everyone that gave me advice a couple weeks ago in regards to the FeLuk/FIV 
re-testing of our 2 1/2 year old greybie baby, Tickles. He still tested 
positive for the FeLuk virus and now also is FIV positive. We apparently had 
him tested before the 8-12 week FIV onset. We are disappointed, but still love 
him and he will be with us for the rest of his life. We have chosen to keep him 
separate from the other three. I know there are those of you who mix your 
negatives with your positives who are vaccinated, but we do not want to do 
that. We feel that with any vaccine, nothing is 100% guaranteed. We want to be 
completely safe. We have a 6 year old dominant, ok, bitchy at times, female. I 
can already see them scrapping. Thank you to everyone for your input and great 
advice.  :)

Melissa L. McKenna

-Original Message- From: Lorrie
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 3:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten

I feel for you.. I rescued a litter of 4 kittens who all tested FelV
positive.  They are now about 4 1/2 months old and still very active and
playful with no sign of sickness. I plan to have them restested next month,
and I'm hoping they will all be negative by then.  They have three isolation
rooms to play in at my cat sanctuary, and I feed them well and keep them
stress free. This does help.

Lorrie

On 09-17, Maryam Ulomi wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm sorry for that first email. I wanted to find out if anyone had some
> advice and suggestions on nutrition for the little kitten I have rescue
> who is FeLV positive. She has tested positive and is the kitten of a feral
> cat, her glands are big but I'm hoping because she is now indoor and being
> cared for well she will test negative so I can keep her with my other two
> adult cats. I have been feeding her canned good with very high protein
> contents and no seafood, I read that was the recommended diet but any
> other suggestions, hints, are very welcome!
> 
> Thank you
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten

[McKenna's]

For everyone that gave me advice a couple weeks ago in regards to the 
FeLuk/FIV re-testing of our 2 1/2 year old greybie baby, Tickles. He still 
tested positive for the FeLuk virus and now also is FIV positive. We 
apparently had him tested before the 8-12 week FIV onset. We are 
disappointed, but still love him and he will be with us for the rest of his 
life. We have chosen to keep him separate from the other three. I know there 
are those of you who mix your negatives with your positives who are 
vaccinated, but we do not want to do that. We feel that with any vaccine, 
nothing is 100% guaranteed. We want to be completely safe. We have a 6 year 
old dominant, ok, bitchy at times, female. I can already see them scrapping. 
Thank you to everyone for your input and great advice.  :)


Melissa L. McKenna

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From: Lorrie

Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 3:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten

I feel for you.. I rescued a litter of 4 kittens who all tested FelV
positive.  They are now about 4 1/2 months old and still very active and
playful with no sign of sickness. I plan to have them restested next month,
and I'm hoping they will all be negative by then.  They have three isolation
rooms to play in at my cat sanctuary, and I feed them well and keep them
stress free. This does help.

Lorrie

On 09-17, Maryam Ulomi wrote:

Hello,

I'm sorry for that first email. I wanted to find out if anyone had some
advice and suggestions on nutrition for the little kitten I have rescue
who is FeLV positive. She has tested positive and is the kitten of a feral
cat, her glands are big but I'm hoping because she is now indoor and being
cared for well she will test negative so I can keep her with my other two
adult cats. I have been feeding her canned good with very high protein
contents and no seafood, I read that was the recommended diet but any
other suggestions, hints, are very welcome!

Thank you



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Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten

[Lorrie]

I feel for you.. I rescued a litter of 4 kittens who all tested FelV
positive.  They are now about 4 1/2 months old and still very active and
playful with no sign of sickness. I plan to have them restested next month,
and I'm hoping they will all be negative by then.  They have three isolation
rooms to play in at my cat sanctuary, and I feed them well and keep them
stress free. This does help. 

Lorrie

On 09-17, Maryam Ulomi wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm sorry for that first email. I wanted to find out if anyone had some
> advice and suggestions on nutrition for the little kitten I have rescue
> who is FeLV positive. She has tested positive and is the kitten of a feral
> cat, her glands are big but I'm hoping because she is now indoor and being
> cared for well she will test negative so I can keep her with my other two
> adult cats. I have been feeding her canned good with very high protein
> contents and no seafood, I read that was the recommended diet but any
> other suggestions, hints, are very welcome!
> 
> Thank you 
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten

[Lee Evans]

Could you trap the mother cat and have her tested, spayed, given rabies 
vaccination and put back in the colony if it's a colony or if a single cat, 
allow her to live where you found her and feed her?   If mom cat tests 
positive, kitten is probably fighting off the virus.  If mom cat tests 
negative, kitten probably has some other type of infection.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: Maryam Ulomi 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:39 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten
 
Hello,

I'm sorry for that first email.
I wanted to find out if anyone had some
advice and suggestions on nutrition for the little kitten I have rescue who is 
FeLV positive. She has tested positive and is the kitten of a feral cat, her 
glands are big but I'm hoping because she is now indoor and being cared for 
well she will test negative so I can keep her with my other two adult cats.
I have been feeding her canned good with very high protein contents and no 
seafood, I read that was the recommended diet but any other suggestions, hints, 
are very welcome!

Thank you 

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On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:34, Maryam Ulomi  wrote:

> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten

[Marcia Baronda]

Could there be a hidden infection? Something is causing those lymph nodes to 
swell. I admire you, for taking in this little kitten. 

Take care
Marcia

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 

On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:08 AM, Maryam Ulomi  wrote:

> Hello,
> Thanks, she is already taking l-lysine twice a day. We have done stool 
> sample, bloodwork and urine test and there is no infection, which is why my 
> vet believe she will test positive again when retested in 3 months.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone.
> 
> On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:54, Beth  wrote:
>> L-lysine a good supplement to add, but if her glands are swollen, she needs 
>> to go to the vet for bloodwork. She may be fighting off an infection & need 
>> meds.
>> 
>> There is not reason you cannot keep her with your other cat if she continues 
>> to test positive. Just make sure you cat is up to date on it's FeLV vaccine. 
>> (initial vaccine & booster)
>> 
>> Beth
>> 
>>  
>> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
>>  
>> 
>> From: Maryam Ulomi 
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:39 PM
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'm sorry for that first email.
>> I wanted to find out if anyone had some
>> advice and suggestions on nutrition for the little kitten I have rescue who 
>> is FeLV positive. She has tested positive and is the kitten of a feral cat, 
>> her glands are big but I'm hoping because she is now indoor and being cared 
>> for well she will test negative so I can keep her with my other two adult 
>> cats.
>> I have been feeding her canned good with very high protein contents and no 
>> seafood, I read that was the recommended diet but any other suggestions, 
>> hints, are very welcome!
>> 
>> Thank you 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone.
>> 
>> On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:34, Maryam Ulomi  wrote:
>> 
>> > 
>> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten

[Maryam Ulomi]

Hello,
Thanks, she is already taking l-lysine twice a day. We have done stool sample, 
bloodwork and urine test and there is no infection, which is why my vet believe 
she will test positive again when retested in 3 months.


Sent from my iPhone.

On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:54, Beth  wrote:
> L-lysine a good supplement to add, but if her glands are swollen, she needs 
> to go to the vet for bloodwork. She may be fighting off an infection & need 
> meds.
> 
> There is not reason you cannot keep her with your other cat if she continues 
> to test positive. Just make sure you cat is up to date on it's FeLV vaccine. 
> (initial vaccine & booster)
> 
> Beth
> 
>  
> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
>  
> 
> From: Maryam Ulomi 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:39 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm sorry for that first email.
> I wanted to find out if anyone had some
> advice and suggestions on nutrition for the little kitten I have rescue who 
> is FeLV positive. She has tested positive and is the kitten of a feral cat, 
> her glands are big but I'm hoping because she is now indoor and being cared 
> for well she will test negative so I can keep her with my other two adult 
> cats.
> I have been feeding her canned good with very high protein contents and no 
> seafood, I read that was the recommended diet but any other suggestions, 
> hints, are very welcome!
> 
> Thank you 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone.
> 
> On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:34, Maryam Ulomi  wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten

[Beth]

L-lysine a good supplement to add, but if her glands are swollen, she needs to 
go to the vet for bloodwork. She may be fighting off an infection & need meds.

There is not reason you cannot keep her with your other cat if she continues to 
test positive. Just make sure you cat is up to date on it's FeLV vaccine. 
(initial vaccine & booster)

Beth


 
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 From: Maryam Ulomi 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:39 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten
 
Hello,

I'm sorry for that first email.
I wanted to find out if anyone had some
advice and suggestions on nutrition for the little kitten I have rescue who is 
FeLV positive. She has tested positive and is the kitten of a feral cat, her 
glands are big but I'm hoping because she is now indoor and being cared for 
well she will test negative so I can keep her with my other two adult cats.
I have been feeding her canned good with very high protein contents and no 
seafood, I read that was the recommended diet but any other suggestions, hints, 
are very welcome!

Thank you 

Sent from my iPhone.

On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:34, Maryam Ulomi  wrote:

> 

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