Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning

2013-07-05 Thread dlgegg
I really have not had any problem with fleas or ticks so far, just buffalo 
gnats and now that the weather is warmer, they seem to be gone.  Possible 
problem:  I have 3 that do not go out at all, don't even ask.  Also, we have an 
open floor plan meaning no doors except bathrooms and the cats can open them.  
Mostly I am worried about the cracks under the baseboards.  Guess I could put 
the inside guys in carriers while I was doing this, but how long?  Could I 
maybe use a wet Swiffer mop to get any off the floor and leave what fell 
between cracks?  Most of the house is quarry tile and bedrooms are wood 
laminate.  
 Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 It does have a drying effect on human skin so be sure to wash your hands, 
 arms, whatever it contacts. That's how this stuff works. It dries out the 
 fleas. Their underside is soft and it simply dehydrates them like prunes. 
 Don't use a flour sifter. What I did was take a tablespoon and place it on my 
 shed floor (where the fleas were really rocking and rolling and the cats were 
 itching and scritching) and with a regular broom swept it slowly and gently 
 from side to side and into the baseboard around the floor. I have lino but 
 it's also old and slight separations between the each glued down part. So 
 then I kept the cats out for 24 hours (do in good weather if you have an 
 outside enclosure attached to a cat room) and next day, no polka dots on my 
 pants, no flea bites. Yes, you can spread it outside but again, don't poof it 
 into the air if you are sensitive and don't do on windy day.  Flea Busters is 
 also good but it's boric acid or borax, not good for cats
  to lick from their fur. With diatomaceous earth, you don't have to wait 
 several days. Fleas are gone over night. However, make sure you don't inhale 
 or you will get all dried out.

 
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I was really thinking of using it in the yard and on the deck and seeing how 
that worked.  So far last year and this year we have had NO FLEA OR TICK 
PROBLEMS.  The cats only go out on the deck, except Harley.  He goes into the 
woods, but has only had 2 ticks and no sign of fleas.  KNOCK ON WOOD.
nOW IF THERE WAS A SOLUTION FOR BUFFALO GNATS.  They raise huge welts on me 
and so I spend most of my time indoors until they are gone.  They usually 
disappear when it starts getting hot.





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Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning

2013-07-02 Thread KG BarnCats
It's food grade DE.  It is perfectly safe to consume - cats, dogs, horses,
people, etc.. It's usually mixed with wet food or water.  It works by
microscopically scratching the bugs//worms which then dessicate.   See
http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/defaq.html or just google.  Sounds like
some can have reaction to breathing it, so extra care to avoid stirring it
into the air is.needed.  I wonder if the mask could stop the tiny
particles.  I haven't ever needed to use it indoors but I appreciate the
cautionary tale shared.



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 I know someone that FEEDS it to her cats. That can't be good after
hearing your experience. If it's a desiccant, then I would think it might
cause internal damage. Anyone know anything about that?

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 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 17:50:19 -0500
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 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning

 I was really thinking of using it in the yard and on the deck and seeing
how that worked. So far last year and this year we have had NO FLEA OR TICK
PROBLEMS. The cats only go out on the deck, except Harley. He goes into the
woods, but has only had 2 ticks and no sign of fleas. KNOCK ON WOOD.
 nOW IF THERE WAS A SOLUTION FOR BUFFALO GNATS. They raise huge welts on
me and so I spend most of my time indoors until they are gone. They usually
disappear when it starts getting hot.

  janine paton patonjan...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
  I am sorry, I haven't been following this thread but caught the
diatomaceous warning.  Hoping they still make this, but 1-800-flea busters
out of FL. is my favorite product to use.  It's a little work, but I think
I was over zealous the first year.  Third yr I used it, I was not so
diligent, but it worked just fine.  It is safe, and it lasts a year and
that's the real bonus.  Takes a few weeks to work, but it really does.

 Janine


 
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 Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 5:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning


 Very scary Beth,  Thanks for the warning.


 On 07-01, Beth wrote:
 I don't want to start a barrage of OT emails with this post. Just a
 quick warnng to be careful
 I tried the food grade diatomaceous earth this weekend to try to
stop
 the fleas. I have all hardwood floors - really old ones, with lots
of
 crevices for the flea eggs to hide in.
 I wore a good sanding mask which blocks small particles. I opened
the
 windows (as many as I could without danger of the cats getting out).
 I sprinkled it in the product on the floors using a sieve. I gently
 swept it into the cracks in the floor in my bedroom  hallway. If
did
 not create any visible dust clouds, etc.
 I went outside, took the mask off  sat for a bit.
 When I went back inside I could not breath. My mouth immediately
became
 parched  my throat started closing.
 I grabbed some water  went back outside.
 I spent the rest of the day with the mask back on washing the floors
 trying to get rid of the stuff.
 Please be careful. I am a very active, relatively young  person. I
 don't have breathing issues.  This was quite scary.
 In addition to the breathing issues, some of it got on my skin  it
 just burned.
 Again, yes, this was the food grade kind.
 I know people on this list use it  have no problems. That's great.
But
 if you have not tried it, please be careful if you do. Try it in a
very
 small area, first.
 I guess I will go back to vacuuming  flea combing.
 I may use the rest in the yard since most of the problem seems to
be my
 dog bringing them in from outside.
 Beth

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Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning

2013-07-02 Thread Beth
There's a good bit of info out there about it. People do actually eat it. I dd 
not mean to clog up the list with this post. Just wanted to send out a warning 
of my experience.
I did not use a flour sifter to apply it. I gently spread it on the floor  
gently swept it into the cracks, creating no visible dust , but it still 
affected me enough I was afraid I was going to have to call 911. I am still 
having breathing problems this morning as I did not get it all out of the 
house. I imagine that will take a long time.
It burned my skin. Someone had mentioned that you could actually put it on your 
animals. If it burned my skin, I cannot imagine putting it on one of my 
animals. I do have very sensitive skin (I have to have fragrance free lotion)  
I do get flu-like symptoms around cleaning products, so maybe my body is just 
extra sensitive. 
Just wanted to make sure people are cautious when using this  test a small 
area 1st to make sure it does not adversely affect you.
If it works great for you with no problems, that's wonderful. I would keep 
using it. I wish I could.

Beth


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I know someone that FEEDS it to her cats. That can't be good after hearing your 
experience. If it's a desiccant, then I would think it might cause internal 
damage. Anyone know anything about that?

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 On 07-01, Beth wrote:
     I don't want to start a barrage of OT emails with this post. Just a
     quick warnng to be careful
     I tried the food grade diatomaceous earth this weekend to try to stop
     the fleas. I have all hardwood floors - really old ones, with lots of
     crevices for the flea eggs to hide in.
     I wore a good sanding mask which blocks small particles. I opened the
     windows (as many as I could without danger of the cats getting out).
     I sprinkled it in the product on the floors using a sieve. I gently
     swept it into the cracks in the floor in my bedroom  hallway. If did
     not create any visible dust clouds, etc.
     I went outside, took the mask off  sat for a bit.
     When I went back inside I could not breath. My mouth immediately became
     parched  my throat started closing.
     I grabbed some water  went back outside.
     I spent the rest of the day with the mask back on washing the floors
     trying to get rid of the stuff.
     Please be careful. I am a very active, relatively young  person. I
     don't have breathing issues.  This was quite scary.
     In addition to the breathing issues, some of it got on my skin  it
     just burned.
     Again, yes, this was the food grade kind.
     I know people on this list use it  have no problems. That's great. But
     if you have not tried it, please be careful if you do. Try it in a very
     small area, first.
     I guess I will go back to vacuuming  flea combing.
     I may use the rest in the yard since most of the problem seems to be my
     dog bringing them in from outside.
     Beth
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning

2013-07-02 Thread Lee Evans
It is created as a calcium supplement (the same as ground up egg shells). It's 
used as a calcium supplement for farm animals and dogs. As long as it's being 
mixed into wet food it's not a desiccant. It's only when it's inhaled or spread 
as a powder on skin that it has that effect. However, I have never tried 
feeding it to the cats to prevent fleas. Years ago, brewers yeast was supposed 
to be good at preventing fleas when fed to cats. It did absolutely nothing 
except annoy my cats and get me scratched a few times. 


 
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning
 


 
I know someone that FEEDS it to her cats. That can't be good after hearing 
your experience. If it's a desiccant, then I would think it might cause 
internal damage. Anyone know anything about that?

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 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 17:50:19 -0500
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 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning
 
 I was really thinking of using it in the yard and on the deck and seeing how 
 that worked.  So far last year and this year we have had NO FLEA OR TICK 
 PROBLEMS.  The cats only go out on the deck, except Harley.  He goes into 
 the woods, but has only had 2 ticks and no sign of fleas.  KNOCK ON WOOD.
  nOW IF THERE WAS A SOLUTION FOR BUFFALO GNATS.  They raise huge welts on me 
 and so I spend most of my time indoors until they are gone.  They usually 
 disappear when it starts getting hot.
 
  janine paton patonjan...@sbcglobal.net wrote: 
  I am sorry, I haven't been following this thread but caught the 
  diatomaceous warning.  Hoping they still make this, but 1-800-flea busters 
  out of FL. is my favorite product to use.  It's a little work, but I think 
  I was over zealous the first year.  Third yr I used it, I was not so 
  diligent, but it worked just fine.  It is safe, and it lasts a year and 
  that's the real bonus.  Takes a few weeks to work, but it really does.  
 
 Janine 
 
 
 
  From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 5:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning
 
 
 Very scary Beth,  Thanks for the warning.
 
 
 On 07-01, Beth wrote:
     I don't want to start a barrage of OT emails with this post. Just a
     quick warnng to be careful
     I tried the food grade diatomaceous earth this weekend to try to stop
     the fleas. I have all hardwood floors - really old ones, with lots of
     crevices for the flea eggs to hide in.
     I wore a good sanding mask which blocks small particles. I opened the
     windows (as many as I could without danger of the cats getting out).
     I sprinkled it in the product on the floors using a sieve. I gently
     swept it into the cracks in the floor in my bedroom  hallway. If did
     not create any visible dust clouds, etc.
     I went outside, took the mask off  sat for a bit.
     When I went back inside I could not breath. My mouth immediately became
     parched  my throat started closing.
     I grabbed some water  went back outside.
     I spent the rest of the day with the mask back on washing the floors
     trying to get rid of the stuff.
     Please be careful. I am a very active, relatively young  person. I
     don't have breathing issues.  This was quite scary.
     In addition to the breathing issues, some of it got on my skin  it
     just burned.
     Again, yes, this was the food grade kind.
     I know people on this list use it  have no problems. That's great. But
     if you have not tried it, please be careful if you do. Try it in a very
     small area, first.
     I guess I will go back to vacuuming  flea combing.
     I may use the rest in the yard since most of the problem seems to be my
     dog bringing them in from outside.
     Beth
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning

2013-07-02 Thread C PQ
Thanks for the clarification. I was worried, but not anymore.


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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning

It is created as a calcium supplement (the same as ground up egg shells). It's 
used as a calcium supplement for farm animals and dogs. As long as it's being 
mixed into wet food it's not a desiccant. It's only when it's inhaled or spread 
as a powder on skin that it has that effect. However, I have never tried 
feeding it to the cats to prevent fleas. Years ago, brewers yeast was supposed 
to be good at preventing fleas when fed to cats. It did absolutely nothing 
except annoy my cats and get me scratched a few times. 

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neighbors too!


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 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning
 
 I was really thinking of using it in the yard and on the deck and seeing how 
 that worked.  So far last year and this year we have had NO FLEA OR TICK 
 PROBLEMS.  The cats only go out on the deck, except Harley.  He goes into the 
 woods, but has only had 2 ticks and no sign of fleas.  KNOCK ON WOOD.
  nOW IF THERE WAS A SOLUTION FOR BUFFALO GNATS.  They raise huge welts on me 
 and so I spend most of my time indoors until they are gone.  They usually 
 disappear when it starts getting hot.
 
  janine paton patonjan...@sbcglobal.net wrote: 
  I am sorry, I haven't been following this thread but caught the 
  diatomaceous warning.  Hoping they still
 make this, but 1-800-flea busters out of FL. is my favorite product to use.  
It's a little work, but I think I was over zealous the first year.  Third yr I 
used it, I was not so diligent, but it worked just fine.  It is safe, and it 
lasts a year and that's the real bonus.  Takes a few weeks to work, but it 
really does.  
 
 Janine 
 
 
 
  From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 5:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning
  
 
 Very scary Beth,  Thanks for the warning.
 
 
 On 07-01, Beth wrote:
 I don't want to start a barrage of OT emails with this post. Just a
 quick warnng to be careful
 I tried the food grade
 diatomaceous earth this weekend to try to stop
 the fleas. I have all hardwood floors - really old ones, with lots of
 crevices for the flea eggs to hide in.
 I wore a good sanding mask which blocks small particles. I opened the
 windows (as many as I could without danger of the cats getting out).
 I sprinkled it in the product on the floors using a sieve. I gently
 swept it into the cracks in the floor in my bedroom  hallway. If did
 not create any visible dust clouds, etc.
 I went outside, took the mask off  sat for a bit.
 When I went back inside I could not breath. My mouth immediately became
 parched  my throat started closing.
 I grabbed some water  went
 back outside.
 I spent the rest of the day with the mask back on washing the floors
 trying to get rid of the stuff.
 Please be careful. I am a very active, relatively young  person. I
 don't have breathing issues.  This was quite scary.
 In addition to the breathing issues, some of it got on my skin  it
 just burned.
 Again, yes, this was the food grade kind.
 I know people on this list use it  have no problems. That's great. But
 if you have not tried it, please be careful if you do. Try it in a very
 small area, first.
 I guess I will go back to vacuuming  flea combing.
 I may use the rest in the yard since most of the problem
 seems to be my
 dog bringing them in from outside.
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning

2013-07-01 Thread Lorrie
Very scary Beth,  Thanks for the warning.


On 07-01, Beth wrote:
I don't want to start a barrage of OT emails with this post. Just a
quick warnng to be careful
I tried the food grade diatomaceous earth this weekend to try to stop
the fleas. I have all hardwood floors - really old ones, with lots of
crevices for the flea eggs to hide in.
I wore a good sanding mask which blocks small particles. I opened the
windows (as many as I could without danger of the cats getting out).
I sprinkled it in the product on the floors using a sieve. I gently
swept it into the cracks in the floor in my bedroom  hallway. If did
not create any visible dust clouds, etc.
I went outside, took the mask off  sat for a bit.
When I went back inside I could not breath. My mouth immediately became
parched  my throat started closing.
I grabbed some water  went back outside.
I spent the rest of the day with the mask back on washing the floors
trying to get rid of the stuff.
Please be careful. I am a very active, relatively young  person. I
don't have breathing issues.  This was quite scary.
In addition to the breathing issues, some of it got on my skin  it
just burned.
Again, yes, this was the food grade kind.
I know people on this list use it  have no problems. That's great. But
if you have not tried it, please be careful if you do. Try it in a very
small area, first.
I guess I will go back to vacuuming  flea combing.
I may use the rest in the yard since most of the problem seems to be my
dog bringing them in from outside.
Beth

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2013-07-01 Thread janine paton
I am sorry, I haven't been following this thread but caught the diatomaceous 
warning.  Hoping they still make this, but 1-800-flea busters out of FL. is my 
favorite product to use.  It's a little work, but I think I was over zealous 
the first year.  Third yr I used it, I was not so diligent, but it worked just 
fine.  It is safe, and it lasts a year and that's the real bonus.  Takes a few 
weeks to work, but it really does.  

Janine 



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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning
 

Very scary Beth,  Thanks for the warning.


On 07-01, Beth wrote:
    I don't want to start a barrage of OT emails with this post. Just a
    quick warnng to be careful
    I tried the food grade diatomaceous earth this weekend to try to stop
    the fleas. I have all hardwood floors - really old ones, with lots of
    crevices for the flea eggs to hide in.
    I wore a good sanding mask which blocks small particles. I opened the
    windows (as many as I could without danger of the cats getting out).
    I sprinkled it in the product on the floors using a sieve. I gently
    swept it into the cracks in the floor in my bedroom  hallway. If did
    not create any visible dust clouds, etc.
    I went outside, took the mask off  sat for a bit.
    When I went back inside I could not breath. My mouth immediately became
    parched  my throat started closing.
    I grabbed some water  went back outside.
    I spent the rest of the day with the mask back on washing the floors
    trying to get rid of the stuff.
    Please be careful. I am a very active, relatively young  person. I
    don't have breathing issues.  This was quite scary.
    In addition to the breathing issues, some of it got on my skin  it
    just burned.
    Again, yes, this was the food grade kind.
    I know people on this list use it  have no problems. That's great. But
    if you have not tried it, please be careful if you do. Try it in a very
    small area, first.
    I guess I will go back to vacuuming  flea combing.
    I may use the rest in the yard since most of the problem seems to be my
    dog bringing them in from outside.
    Beth

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Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning

2013-07-01 Thread dlgegg
I was really thinking of using it in the yard and on the deck and seeing how 
that worked.  So far last year and this year we have had NO FLEA OR TICK 
PROBLEMS.  The cats only go out on the deck, except Harley.  He goes into the 
woods, but has only had 2 ticks and no sign of fleas.  KNOCK ON WOOD.
 nOW IF THERE WAS A SOLUTION FOR BUFFALO GNATS.  They raise huge welts on me 
and so I spend most of my time indoors until they are gone.  They usually 
disappear when it starts getting hot.

 janine paton patonjan...@sbcglobal.net wrote: 
 I am sorry, I haven't been following this thread but caught the diatomaceous 
 warning.  Hoping they still make this, but 1-800-flea busters out of FL. is 
 my favorite product to use.  It's a little work, but I think I was over 
 zealous the first year.  Third yr I used it, I was not so diligent, but it 
 worked just fine.  It is safe, and it lasts a year and that's the real bonus. 
  Takes a few weeks to work, but it really does.  

Janine 



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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning
 

Very scary Beth,  Thanks for the warning.


On 07-01, Beth wrote:
    I don't want to start a barrage of OT emails with this post. Just a
    quick warnng to be careful
    I tried the food grade diatomaceous earth this weekend to try to stop
    the fleas. I have all hardwood floors - really old ones, with lots of
    crevices for the flea eggs to hide in.
    I wore a good sanding mask which blocks small particles. I opened the
    windows (as many as I could without danger of the cats getting out).
    I sprinkled it in the product on the floors using a sieve. I gently
    swept it into the cracks in the floor in my bedroom  hallway. If did
    not create any visible dust clouds, etc.
    I went outside, took the mask off  sat for a bit.
    When I went back inside I could not breath. My mouth immediately became
    parched  my throat started closing.
    I grabbed some water  went back outside.
    I spent the rest of the day with the mask back on washing the floors
    trying to get rid of the stuff.
    Please be careful. I am a very active, relatively young  person. I
    don't have breathing issues.  This was quite scary.
    In addition to the breathing issues, some of it got on my skin  it
    just burned.
    Again, yes, this was the food grade kind.
    I know people on this list use it  have no problems. That's great. But
    if you have not tried it, please be careful if you do. Try it in a very
    small area, first.
    I guess I will go back to vacuuming  flea combing.
    I may use the rest in the yard since most of the problem seems to be my
    dog bringing them in from outside.
    Beth

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Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning

2013-07-01 Thread Lee Evans
It does have a drying effect on human skin so be sure to wash your hands, arms, 
whatever it contacts. That's how this stuff works. It dries out the fleas. 
Their underside is soft and it simply dehydrates them like prunes. Don't use a 
flour sifter. What I did was take a tablespoon and place it on my shed floor 
(where the fleas were really rocking and rolling and the cats were itching and 
scritching) and with a regular broom swept it slowly and gently from side to 
side and into the baseboard around the floor. I have lino but it's also old and 
slight separations between the each glued down part. So then I kept the cats 
out for 24 hours (do in good weather if you have an outside enclosure attached 
to a cat room) and next day, no polka dots on my pants, no flea bites. Yes, you 
can spread it outside but again, don't poof it into the air if you are 
sensitive and don't do on windy day.  Flea Busters is also good but it's boric 
acid or borax, not good for cats
 to lick from their fur. With diatomaceous earth, you don't have to wait 
several days. Fleas are gone over night. However, make sure you don't inhale or 
you will get all dried out.

 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!






 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
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Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning
 

I was really thinking of using it in the yard and on the deck and seeing how 
that worked.  So far last year and this year we have had NO FLEA OR TICK 
PROBLEMS.  The cats only go out on the deck, except Harley.  He goes into the 
woods, but has only had 2 ticks and no sign of fleas.  KNOCK ON WOOD.
nOW IF THERE WAS A SOLUTION FOR BUFFALO GNATS.  They raise huge welts on me 
and so I spend most of my time indoors until they are gone.  They usually 
disappear when it starts getting hot.


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Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning

2013-07-01 Thread C PQ
I know someone that FEEDS it to her cats. That can't be good after hearing your 
experience. If it's a desiccant, then I would think it might cause internal 
damage. Anyone know anything about that?

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 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 17:50:19 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning
 
 I was really thinking of using it in the yard and on the deck and seeing how 
 that worked.  So far last year and this year we have had NO FLEA OR TICK 
 PROBLEMS.  The cats only go out on the deck, except Harley.  He goes into the 
 woods, but has only had 2 ticks and no sign of fleas.  KNOCK ON WOOD.
  nOW IF THERE WAS A SOLUTION FOR BUFFALO GNATS.  They raise huge welts on me 
 and so I spend most of my time indoors until they are gone.  They usually 
 disappear when it starts getting hot.
 
  janine paton patonjan...@sbcglobal.net wrote: 
  I am sorry, I haven't been following this thread but caught the 
  diatomaceous warning.  Hoping they still make this, but 1-800-flea busters 
  out of FL. is my favorite product to use.  It's a little work, but I think 
  I was over zealous the first year.  Third yr I used it, I was not so 
  diligent, but it worked just fine.  It is safe, and it lasts a year and 
  that's the real bonus.  Takes a few weeks to work, but it really does.  
 
 Janine 
 
 
 
  From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 5:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning
  
 
 Very scary Beth,  Thanks for the warning.
 
 
 On 07-01, Beth wrote:
 I don't want to start a barrage of OT emails with this post. Just a
 quick warnng to be careful
 I tried the food grade diatomaceous earth this weekend to try to stop
 the fleas. I have all hardwood floors - really old ones, with lots of
 crevices for the flea eggs to hide in.
 I wore a good sanding mask which blocks small particles. I opened the
 windows (as many as I could without danger of the cats getting out).
 I sprinkled it in the product on the floors using a sieve. I gently
 swept it into the cracks in the floor in my bedroom  hallway. If did
 not create any visible dust clouds, etc.
 I went outside, took the mask off  sat for a bit.
 When I went back inside I could not breath. My mouth immediately became
 parched  my throat started closing.
 I grabbed some water  went back outside.
 I spent the rest of the day with the mask back on washing the floors
 trying to get rid of the stuff.
 Please be careful. I am a very active, relatively young  person. I
 don't have breathing issues.  This was quite scary.
 In addition to the breathing issues, some of it got on my skin  it
 just burned.
 Again, yes, this was the food grade kind.
 I know people on this list use it  have no problems. That's great. But
 if you have not tried it, please be careful if you do. Try it in a very
 small area, first.
 I guess I will go back to vacuuming  flea combing.
 I may use the rest in the yard since most of the problem seems to be my
 dog bringing them in from outside.
 Beth
 
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