Re: Vacs

2005-08-31 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Terri,

My personal view is that an animal with a chronic disease (be it diabetes or feline leukemia or whatever) does not need the challenge to their immune system that vaccinations present.

The leukemia vaccine would be of no benefit since they are already presumably positive.

It's more expensive, but if you choose to vaccinate, the vet can order single vaccines so that they aren't getting hit with 4 all at once.

Hope this helps.

Julie


Terri Durham-Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, I am new to Leukemia, but have 4 kittens (4 months) that havetested pos 2 times now and am wondering, they have had their 1st shots(3-1's) but not with Leukemia, should they get at least a 4-1 ? I wastold "not" to give them the Leukemia.Thank youTerriwww.anyfelinerescue.org--Terri Durham-StoneSafe a Life "Spay and Neuter"Live well, Love much, Laugh Often"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: Vacs

2005-08-31 Thread gblane

Hear Hear - what she says - I  totally agree!  Gloria

On Aug 31, 2005, at 8:01 AM, Julie Johnson wrote:


Hi Terri,

My personal view is that an animal with a chronic disease (be it  
diabetes or feline leukemia or whatever) does not need the  
challenge to their immune system that vaccinations present.


The leukemia vaccine would be of no benefit since they are already  
presumably positive.


It's more expensive, but if you choose to vaccinate, the vet can  
order single vaccines so that they aren't getting hit with 4 all at  
once.


Hope this helps.

Julie



Terri Durham-Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, I am new to Leukemia, but have 4 kittens (4 months) that have
tested pos 2 times now and am wondering, they have had their 1st shots
(3-1's) but not with Leukemia, should they get at least a 4-1 ? I was
told not to give them the Leukemia.

Thank you
Terri
www.anyfelinerescue.org

--
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Safe a Life Spay and Neuter
Live well, Love much, Laugh Often





I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is
to protection by man from the cruelty of man. 

The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged
by the way its animals are treated.

Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)


Paws Come WITH Claws!!!

If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think  
your decision to acquire a pet.


Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page





Re: Vacs

2005-08-30 Thread Belinda Sauro
   I was told by my vet giving a positive the FeLV shot defeats the 
purpose of the shot, the cat is positive and the shot is useless. So 
everyone but Bailey, who is my positive gets it, Bailey has never gotten it.


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Re: Vacs

2005-08-30 Thread Belinda Sauro

  Oh, and welcome Terri  :)

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Re: Vacs

2005-08-30 Thread Del Daniels



Hi Terri,

Since they already are FeLV+, do not give the FeLV 
vaccine. The other vaccines are up to you. Some vets/people feel 
they need all of their immune system to fight the FeLV and adding vaccines would 
further complicate it ... other vets/people feel the opposite, that they need 
the extra protection from the vaccines. 
I chose to give the kitties their first vaccine and 
first Rabies and no more.
Del

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Terri 
  Durham-Stone 
  To: FELV Talk List 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:07 
  AM
  Subject: Vacs
  Hi, I am new to Leukemia, but have 4 kittens (4 
  months) that havetested pos 2 times now and am wondering, they 
  have had their 1st shots(3-1's) but not with Leukemia, should 
  they get at least a 4-1 ? I wastold "not" to give them the 
  Leukemia.Thank youTerriwww.anyfelinerescue.org--Terri 
  Durham-StoneSafe a Life "Spay and Neuter"Live well, Love much, Laugh 
  Often


RE: Vacs

2005-08-30 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Hi, Terri, again this become a personal choice, but I follow holistic
medicine very strongly so my opinion is based on the practice - when
animals body is compromised already whether it is with FeLV virus or FIV
virus or any other illness, they recommend that never vaccinate the
animals - their immune system will be further compromised and may
trigger illness further - therefore, I don't - the only vaccine I may do
(not with feLV or FIV kitties, but others), is Distember and FECV/FCR
vaccines only the very first year of their life - 

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Subject: Vacs

Hi,  I am new to Leukemia,  but have 4 kittens (4 months)  that have
tested pos 2 times now and am wondering,  they have had their 1st shots
(3-1's)  but not with Leukemia,  should they get at least a 4-1 ?  I was
told not to give them the Leukemia.

Thank you
Terri
www.anyfelinerescue.org

--
Terri Durham-Stone
Safe a Life Spay and Neuter
Live well, Love much, Laugh Often







Re: Vacs

2005-08-30 Thread felv
That is correct, you do NOT want to give them the leukemia vaccine. It is a 
pointless
injection, and increases their chance of developing a vaccine associated 
injection
site sarcoma. Personally, I don't give FELV vaccines to ANY of my cats, period. 
I
follow the new guidelines that say that every 3 years is often enough for most
booster vaccines, and only do rabies every 3 years. I do not do any other 
booster
vaccines for my adult cats, I have one that has vaccine reactions, and so it's 
not
worth the trade off for me. I would do the kitten series if I had any kittens,
though. FVRCP (3 in 1 for Feline Viral Rhinotracheitis, Calicivirus, 
Panleukopenia)
at 8 weeks, 12-14 weeks, and 1 year, plus rabies at 1 year, then at 4 years 
old, 7
years old, etc.

http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/CCAH/Prog-ID/ID-Facts_Vax-home.htm is a good 
resource
for standard schedules, but I think it's a little over-kill to do so many 
boosters in
kittens, I think 8 weeks, and one within the next two months after that is 
enough,
plus when they are a year old.

Mind you, that's MY policy, it doesn't mean it's the right vaccination schedule 
for
YOUR cats.

Can I ask you this...

When your vet gave your kittens their vaccines, where did he inject them? It's 
VERY
important to only give vaccines on the leg, as low as possible. NEVER give any
vaccines in the scruff, or loose skin on the body.

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