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Au contraire!!! There are lots of good vegetarian (maybe not vegan) fast foods in boxes now! :)t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL, yeah ask Michelle how gross opening a cat of meat based cat food or tuna is forher! She's very descriptive about how much meat grosses her out. :-)~I used to be vegetarian for a while, but got lazy, and hamburg helper is about all weeat these days unless it come in a microwavable carton. They don't make easy quickvegetarian foods out of a box... which is too bad, because that makes me continue tobe a meat eater. If it involves more than one pot... I'm not cooking it.Anyways, we're all very tolerate of the vegans here, and try to understand theirpoint of view. I think you'll feel very welcomed here!Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.htmlAdopt a FIV+ cat:http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/Adopt a FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html"Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world ofdifference for that one animal."~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who mustlive on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until sheearns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send themto!-- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.5/177 - Release Date: 11/21/2005
Re: Welcome Rebecca
Wow, I can't believe there are other vegans here. I hardly ever meet any. As far as carrots go, my pugs also go NUTS over them. They also go nuts over brussels sprouts. Go figure. lol. Lucy loves to eat, she'd eat the whole apartment if it were edible. Sometimes she is so stubborn to come inside that I have to yell CARROT! or COOKIE! and THEN she comes FLYING back inside. I love animals. They make life so interesting and fun. lol. Well, your boyfriend is luckier than mine was at the time. He's gone now. Got the boot. LOL. Actually it was otherwise related, but still, any guy who doesn't love animals like I do...there's gonna be a problem. They don't have to be vegan but they sure do have to love furkids, and my guy now is a gem. He is so gentle. ANYWAY...thank you for the welcome Michelle. I look forward to sharing more about Brooklyn as we adjust and bond more with each other. Where is everyone from by the way? I'm from NY and live in Long Island. I just called about Innova and they have it at my local supply store. $11 and change for a 6 lb bag. Reasonable? I know everything is expensive in NY so I wouldn't be surprised if that's expensive. -Rebecca ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Welcome Rebecca Sent: Nov 22 '05 11:43 Hi Rebecca Welcome to group. I too am 30 and vegan although I work in Psychology not audiology. My animals are not vegan although my dog goes mad for carrots. All 3 of my dogs went mad for carrots but I only have 1 left now - the others had to be put to sleep due to old age related ailments. In fact when my boy Deano was here he had about 6 teeth out so we had to cook his carrots so they were soft following the operation. Then about 2 weeks later I caught him pinching a big raw carrot out of the bag and he lay for about 20 mins patiently grinding the carrot down with his front teeth - bless him. The vet prescribed carrots for Gemma who needed to lose weight at the time and all 3 got hooked. Now I only have Candy left of my dogs but she is still as hooked - we just give her a carrot to keep her quiet now. Your comment about your ex boyfriend made me laugh too. My boyfriend would not have another pet when our recue Cat tidge died (unexpected FIV related illnesses) so I moved back home with my parents and took in 3 immune compromised cats from the sanctuary. We are still together but just don't see each other much nor live together which I prefer. I too wish I could afford to just cuddle up with the fur babies full time and dedicate my whole time to being a full time animal mother. Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy Angel Bramble
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Hi Rebecca, Gloria, (I think it was Gloria), found us this wonderful map thing where we've started to post ourselves and locations. You can include a picture too. Very cool. http://www.frappr.com/felvtalk It doesn't surprise me that you don't run into a lot of vegans in NY! I remember when I first moved back east. I ordered a swiss cheese sandwich and the guy behind the counter had to be convinced that I really didn't want any type of meat on it! This was years ago, I doubt you'd get that kind of response today. Innova is expensive, but most cats just love it. I have a pretty large household so I have to buy the big bag. No one in my immediate area carries it and I keep thinking I should buy two bags at once to save on trips, but every time I see the price tag I balk and just get one. Real bright, huh? I'm not only inconveniencing myself with the added trips, I'm spending more money on gas! Nina veggiepugs wrote: Wow, I can't believe there are other vegans here. I hardly ever meet any. As far as carrots go, my pugs also go NUTS over them. They also go nuts over brussels sprouts. Go figure. lol. Lucy loves to eat, she'd eat the whole apartment if it were edible. Sometimes she is so stubborn to come inside that I have to yell "CARROT!" or "COOKIE!" and THEN she comes FLYING back inside. I love animals. They make life so interesting and fun. lol. Well, your boyfriend is luckier than mine was at the time. He's gone now. Got the boot. LOL. Actually it was otherwise related, but still, any guy who doesn't love animals like I do...there's gonna be a problem. They don't have to be vegan but they sure do have to love furkids, and my guy now is a gem. He is so gentle. ANYWAY...thank you for the welcome Michelle. I look forward to sharing more about Brooklyn as we adjust and bond more with each other. Where is everyone from by the way? I'm from NY and live in Long Island. I just called about Innova and they have it at my local supply store. $11 and change for a 6 lb bag. Reasonable? I know everything is expensive in NY so I wouldn't be surprised if that's expensive. -Rebecca ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Welcome Rebecca Sent: Nov 22 '05 11:43 Hi Rebecca Welcome to group. I too am 30 and vegan although I work in Psychology not audiology. My animals are not vegan although my dog goes mad for carrots. All 3 of my dogs went mad for carrots but I only have 1 left now - the others had to be put to sleep due to old age related ailments. In fact when my boy Deano was here he had about 6 teeth out so we had to cook his carrots so they were soft following the operation. Then about 2 weeks later I caught him pinching a big raw carrot out of the bag and he lay for about 20 mins patiently grinding the carrot down with his front teeth - bless him. The vet prescribed carrots for Gemma who needed to lose weight at the time and all 3 got hooked. Now I only have Candy left of my dogs but she is still as hooked - we just give her a carrot to keep her quiet now. Your comment about your ex boyfriend made me laugh too. My boyfriend would not have another pet when our recue Cat tidge died (unexpected FIV related illnesses) so I moved back home with my parents and took in 3 immune compromised cats from the sanctuary. We are still together but just don't see each other much nor live together which I prefer. I too wish I could afford to just cuddle up with the fur babies full time and dedicate my whole time to being a full time animal mother. Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy Angel Bramble
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Yes, it is very common when feeding cats a vegan diet, that they get UTI's as a result of an improper PH balance. Vegancats.com therefore sells a product called Enzymes PH which helps and I think is great for any cat vegan or not that suffers w. UTI issues. If anyone's interested in the supplements they sell, they have a few good ones, ur cat doesn't have to be vegan to use them. lol. check them out... http://vegancats.com/pages/1153/Dietary_Supplements.htm I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your doggies. My heart aches for you. I would be the same. I feed my dogs Evolution vegan dog food canned and kibble. they LOVE it. And they are extremely healthy, in fact, in comparison to a lot of other pugs we know (i belong to a pug group on LI) they have exceptionally beautiful coats and are in good shape, whereas many pugs are overweight and have skin problems that we know. I tried once to switch them to another food, but Lucy's stomach did not do well on it. So, Evolution it is. Plus carrots, brussels sprouts, mr barkey's and mr pugsley's treats. lol. Thanks for sharing! -Rebecca ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Welcome Rebecca Sent: Nov 22 '05 12:22 I'm vegan too. And I think Del is also. My dogs, when they were alive, went crazy for broccoli stems. We called them broccoli bones because they would run off to their beds, lay with them between their paws, and eat them like bones. They all died in the last 1.5 years, and to this day we can not cook broccoli. We tried last week, but when my partner Gray cut the stems off he started crying and said he still can not cook with it. It was such a ritual of cutting the stems off and calling to the dogs to come get them. Two of our dogs were vegan ate Wysong Vegan dry food) for most of their lives, but the third ate food with meat because she was on diet food. At the end they all ate meat because two had cancer and we read that they should not have much carbs. I once tried the Wysong Vegan, which says it is feline and canine, with a cat, but he got urinary crystals right away, and the same happened with a friend's cats, so I never tried it again. I would be afraid to try to feed my positives vegan anyway. Michelle In a message dated 11/22/2005 12:14:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wow, I can't believe there are other vegans here. I hardly ever meet any. As far as carrots go, my pugs also go NUTS over them. They also go nuts over brussels sprouts. Go figure. lol. Lucy loves to eat, she'd eat the whole apartment if it were edible. Sometimes she is so stubborn to come inside that I have to yell CARROT! or COOKIE! and THEN she comes FLYING back inside. I love animals. They make life so interesting and fun. lol. Well, your boyfriend is luckier than mine was at the time. He's gone now. Got the boot. LOL. Actually it was otherwise related, but still, any guy who doesn't love animals like I do...there's gonna be a problem. They don't have to be vegan but they sure do have to love furkids, and my guy now is a gem. He is so gentle. ANYWAY...thank you for the welcome Michelle. I look forward to sharing more about Brooklyn as we adjust and bond more with each other. Where is everyone from by the way? I'm from NY and live in Long Island. I just called about Innova and they have it at my local supply store. $11 and change for a 6 lb bag. Reasonable? I know everything is expensive in NY so I wouldn't be surprised if that's expensive. -Rebecca
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In a message dated 11/22/05 12:14:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lucy loves to eat, she'd eat the whole apartment if it were edible Rebecca ~ Your Lucy sounds so much like my Lucy!!! I always say my Lucy will eat anything!! She LOVES to eat...her favorite past~time. She had to have surgery on her hips last year (FHO's on BOTH hips). And Lucy, being a cattle dog mix, ideally should weigh around 30 lbs. Yeah, right. I had to put her on a diet prior to surgery, so I started adding more fresh veggies to her food What a riot! She is the only dog I have ever seen that actually picks OUT all her veggies and tosses them on the floor!!! She'd actually look up at me and whine like a baby when her meals consisted of too many veggies to her liking!! However, at the time it wasn't funny to me, cause she needed the surgery so badly BUT she had to loose weight. Somehow, we managed to get the weight off and she had the surgery. NOW, we are attempting the "diet" thing again cause she is going to need total hip replacements. I just LOVE her so much. Midnight, my vegan dog loves bananas. That is how I"won" her over. She was returned to the shelter after being in a home for almost 8 years. Her "owners" (they do NOT qualify for the term guardian), never addressed her ear problems, so she was in so much pain that she had become aggressive. She was what my daughter called, "an evil dog". Who could blame her?? She was about to be banished to the kennel where the shelter (no kill) housed their aggressive dogs, and I couldn't bear to see that happen to her. So, I started to try to win her affections. And one day she was sitting next to me when I was eating lunch and she grabbed my banana and took off! I was amazed to see her scarfing down the entire banana, skin all. So I started bringing an extra banana with me every day, and, yes, I did peel them. And, I have to say, it was the bananas that "sealed" our relationship! Too funny. Anyway, once again I ramble. I was born in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn. Lived there til I was eleven, then we moved out to Babylon. (We always had a summer house in Farmingville, until the construction of the LIE took that away from us!! Damn LIE ~ I still won't drive on it. And besides, it's TOO busy, makes me nervous as he!!.) Now I'm in Pennsylvania, but I still LOVE miss New York. Especially the city and the beaches Where on the Island are you?? My sister's in West Islip. I still have family in Babylon, Patchogue, Freeport and Medford There's no place like home. Hugs, Patti
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Hah...Patti we have a lot of ties here...lol. My dogs love bananas too. Ever since I was a kid, I've loved a snack of bananas with maple syrup. As soon as I peel a banana, they pick up the scent and are hopping around me like little rabbits. lol. Lucy running in circles and jumping up on my legs and whining like she's a starving child. Oy vay. The drama. They also love, carrots and brussels sprouts as I mentioned, oranges, though I've stopped feeding them because I read about some toxicity issue with them and dogs, popcorn and chips which I don't feed them but maybe one or two ONCE in a blue moon, but Lucy still knows the word Chip. They know the word EAT too and I can't even spell it, they can understand the spelling too. Smart asses. Brooklyn is picking up on a lot of this, as soon as I open the fridge, he comes running and meowing. When I'm making his food...oh my, exactly like the pugs, he jumps up on his hind legs, reaches his front paws out to as far up towards the counter as he can as if to say Please, give it to me, I'm dying of starvation, I can't wait any longer! He jumped up and knocked down all the food the other day because he couldn't wait anymore! Whenever I give the dogs a cookie/treat, he comes and wants some too. He is so hilarious. He's fit in so ridiculously fast and so perfectly. I am astounded. He's like another dog. A very mellow, sleek and agile dog. LOL. I can't get over his begging and his talking. It tickles me pink (what an odd expression). lol. Babylon huh? My boyfriend lives in Deer Park. He's a volunteer fireman there. His ancestry traces back to Brooklyn though, mostly in Park Slope. The LIE can be horrible definitely. Thank goodness I don't have to use it often, but the southern state is even worse if you ask me, and that, i get stuck on regularly. I live in North Massapequa which is a really nice family oriented area. I live in a basement apartment under an AMAZINGLY understanding and very cool landlady in her late 60's. I honestly could never leave because I am so spoiled living there. We're all like family. She and her son and his family live upstairs and they have 2 dogs, a cat, 3 birds, a lizard, a guinea pig and I'm sure there's something else I'm missing but unfortunately they're not the best guardians. Not terrible, but not the best. At least they love their animals. What a house huh? Altogether 4 dogs, 2 cats, 2 rabbits, 3 birds, a guinea pig, a lizard, some fish and coming soon...a partridge in a pear tree. lol. I crack myself up (hey someone's got to laugh at my corny jokes). lol. Hugs. It's so great to be here. The support and just having people to talk to who can relate on so many levels is great. I'll have more about Brooklyn on Saturday. GEEZ talk about babbling. I win. Hugs, Rebecca
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My dog Chip loved bananas too. One time I left the house and then realized I had forgotten something and went back in, and a whole bunch of bananas was lying on one of the dog beds, and Chip was sort of looking up at the ceiling like "I was just standing here looking at the ceiling. Don't know how they got there."Michelle In a message dated 11/22/2005 1:48:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My dogs love bananas too
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i love speaking for what our animals might say if they could talk. lol. ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Welcome Rebecca Sent: Nov 22 '05 13:49 My dog Chip loved bananas too. One time I left the house and then realized I had forgotten something and went back in, and a whole bunch of bananas was lying on one of the dog beds, and Chip was sort of looking up at the ceiling like I was just standing here looking at the ceiling. Don't know how they got there. Michelle In a message dated 11/22/2005 1:48:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My dogs love bananas too
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LOL, yeah ask Michelle how gross opening a cat of meat based cat food or tuna is for her! She's very descriptive about how much meat grosses her out. :-)~ I used to be vegetarian for a while, but got lazy, and hamburg helper is about all we eat these days unless it come in a microwavable carton. They don't make easy quick vegetarian foods out of a box... which is too bad, because that makes me continue to be a meat eater. If it involves more than one pot... I'm not cooking it. Anyways, we're all very tolerate of the vegans here, and try to understand their point of view. I think you'll feel very welcomed here! Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/ Adopt a FELV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal. ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.5/177 - Release Date: 11/21/2005
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I'm living in Vermont now. I pay $34 for a 16 pound bag of the Innova Evo here, and $28 for a 16.5 pound bag of the Innova Lite. I never buy small bags, so I'm not sure about the prices of those, though $11 sounds within reason, as you always pay more if you buy in smaller amounts. Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/ Adopt a FELV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal. ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.5/177 - Release Date: 11/21/2005
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Ha--I think it's vegans that need to be tolerant of the rest of us :) (Wish I had what it takes---I almost hosted a vegan TH this year but it fell apart this am---however the friends whose house I'm going to will *not* be having turkey on the table) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Welcome Rebecca LOL, yeah ask Michelle how gross opening a cat of meat based cat food or tuna is for her! She's very descriptive about how much meat grosses her out. :-)~ I used to be vegetarian for a while, but got lazy, and hamburg helper is about all we eat these days unless it come in a microwavable carton. They don't make easy quick vegetarian foods out of a box... which is too bad, because that makes me continue to be a meat eater. If it involves more than one pot... I'm not cooking it. Anyways, we're all very tolerate of the vegans here, and try to understand their point of view. I think you'll feel very welcomed here! Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/ Adopt a FELV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal. ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.5/177 - Release Date: 11/21/2005 hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Welcome to the group "Rebecca" sorry you had to find us this way. I'm on the west coast in WA. state north of Seattle. I'm sure your finding out all kinds of information here. I want to say that I lurk but still and try read all the postings. I send many good wishes to your kitty. The kitty is very lucky to have you! Bless you for caring! Terrie MohrTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/
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In a message dated 11/22/05 2:58:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and hamburg helper is about all weeat these You can substitute Morningstar Farms Burger Crumbles for the ground beef
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In a message dated 11/22/05 3:13:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ha--I think it's vegans that need to be tolerant of the rest of us :)(Wish I had what it takes---I almost hosted a vegan TH this year but itfell apart this am---however the friends whose house I'm going to will*not* be having turkey on the table) Kerry, That's a kind observation And, one year I had my family to my house for Thanksgiving mainly because I was tired of them thinking I lived on tofu bean sprouts, so I wanted to set the record straight.( My Dad always worried, said I was "too thin" so I "couldn't be eating right".) It was a huge success, everyone I think, was "surprised" that there were so many options AND that the food itself was delicious. However, that was over 10 years ago and it was the last Thanksgiving Dinner I hosted for my family.(Their "excuse" is always, "We miss the leftover turkey."Whatever...LOL!) So, I will have Tofurkey, and share my dinner with Midnight. Patti
