Re: Skin Problem

2005-09-27 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
Thanks, I have made an appointment for her to come.catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It could still possibly be ringworm, but of course it could be any type of allergy. Probably should check with vet if it gets worse If it's an allergya little pred. might help.

tCherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Two on her hind quarterscatatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

where are the spots?Terri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 





Hi Cherie,

I don't really have any experience with this. What are you feeding her? Maybe she has a food allergy. Or maybe there isn't enough fat in her diet.

Just a thought. Perhaps someone with more experience than I will get back to you.

Hugs,

=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec  Salome' =^..^=

Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350

- Original Message - 
From: Cherie A Gabbert 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 2:42 AM
Subject: Skin Problem

Hi all,
I have a question my FeLV+ Amber has a skin problem, she has formed two spots with no hair loss and some scaling.Does not glow so I do not suspect ringworm, any thoughts? Thanks
Cherie

Have a purrfect day
Cherie

Have a purrfect day
Cherie
Have a purrfect day
Cherie


Re: Skin Problem

2005-09-26 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
Thanks Michelle, Amber has two spots on her hind quarters, I am tring Apple Cidar Vinegar twice a day, we will see how that works
Thanks
Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Charlie, an FIV+ cat at the shelter, developed this and it kept getting worse. He got two steroid shots (I can not remember the name of the steroid but it started with a T) and then was on prednisone for a few weeks. I also removed him from the feral cat yard and put him in the shelter, and he got treatment for ear mites and had his ears cleaned out. He got better. I found him a home and he completely recovered, from having lost about 1/2 his fur and having lots of red patches, to being fine. To this day we do not know what caused it-- him scratching because his ears itched, him having an allergy to something in his surroundings, stress, or none of the above.
MichelleHave a purrfect day
Cherie


Re: Skin Problem

2005-09-26 Thread Lora
My cat is going bald on her hind legs. Should I be
concerned?

Baldness, or alopecia, isn't normal in animals (with
exception of certain breeds, like the Chinese Crested
(hairless dog). So anytime a bald spot is noticed,
your veterinarian should have a look. 

Extreme itchiness and the resultant licking, chewing,
biting will cause hair loss (traumatic alopecia). This
can be seen as blunted stubble in the affected area. 

But what about situations where there isn't any
itching? When the skin looks normal - not red,
inflamed or seemingly bothered? You still need to have
it checked out. It could be a hormonal imbalance (i.e.
hypothyroidism - more common in dogs), ringworm, or
what is commonly known in cats as psychogenic
alopecia. This is now recognized as an obsessive
compulsive behavior wherein the cat, continually
over-grooms an area, perhaps due to stress. 

Another feline baldness condition is something called
Eosinophilic Granuloma Complex (ECG), and this is an
allergic condition in the skin, often with
accompanying scabby areas. 

As you can see, there are many conditions that can
cause baldness with or without itching in cats and
dog. Other conditions not mentioned above include
parasites other than fleas (Demodex mites, Notedres
mites).

Also, look under Feline Endocrine Alopecia.

http://www.bobmckee.com/Client%20Info/NewFiles/endocrine%20alopecia.html

NOTE: Not all fungi will glow under a Wood's Black
Lamp/Light. Cats CAN have skin/hair fungus infections
that do NOT put off a neon yellowish or greenish glow.

Just because you or your vet cannot see a glow does
NOT imply that the cat is fungus free.

The only way to 100% rule out ANY fungi infection is
via a hair CULTURE. Hair cultures are NOT the same
thing as a skin/hair SCRAPPING.

Furthermore, Ringworm is NOT the only fungus infection
that cats can contract (although it is the most
common.)

Unfortunately, cats can also contract Athlete's Foot
and Jock Itch, both in which are cousin fungi to
Ringworm.

Lora


Hi all,
I have a question my FeLV+ Amber has a skin problem,
she has formed two spots with no hair loss and some
scaling.Does not glow so I do not suspect
ringworm, any thoughts? Thanks
Cherie

Have a purrfect day
Cherie




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Re: Skin Problem

2005-09-25 Thread Terri Brown




Hi Cherie,

I don't really have any experience with this. What are you feeding 
her? Maybe she has a food allergy. Or maybe there isn't enough fat 
in her diet.

Just a thought. Perhaps someone with more experience than I will get 
back to you.

Hugs,

=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 
furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec  Salome' 
=^..^=

Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My 
FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My 
Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350

  - Original Message - 
  From: Cherie 
  A Gabbert 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 2:42 
  AM
  Subject: Skin Problem
  
  Hi all,
  I have a question my FeLV+ Amber has a skin problem, she has formed two 
  spots with no hair loss and some scaling.Does not glow so I do not suspect 
  ringworm, any thoughts? Thanks
  Cherie
  
  Have a purrfect day
  Cherie
  


Re: Skin Problem

2005-09-25 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
Thanks Terri, but no new foods or any changes in her diet at all, thanks for the input though.
CherieTerri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Hi Cherie,

I don't really have any experience with this. What are you feeding her? Maybe she has a food allergy. Or maybe there isn't enough fat in her diet.

Just a thought. Perhaps someone with more experience than I will get back to you.

Hugs,

=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec  Salome' =^..^=

Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350

- Original Message - 
From: Cherie A Gabbert 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 2:42 AM
Subject: Skin Problem

Hi all,
I have a question my FeLV+ Amber has a skin problem, she has formed two spots with no hair loss and some scaling.Does not glow so I do not suspect ringworm, any thoughts? Thanks
Cherie

Have a purrfect day
Cherie
Have a purrfect day
Cherie


Re: Skin Problem

2005-09-25 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



I use lysine for skin problems along with the omega 3 fatty acids. its 
worth a try.
Karen


Re: Skin Problem

2005-09-25 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
What do you know about Apple Cidar vinegar?.I also heard that might work[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I use lysine for skin problems along with the omega 3 fatty acids. its worth a try.
KarenHave a purrfect day
Cherie


Re: Skin Problem

2005-09-25 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



hmmm apple cidar? Never heard of it sorry


Re: Skin Problem

2005-09-25 Thread maimaipg



I know people who use it for various skin problems including 
fungus infections. It is soothing. I have no idea about using it on 
cats.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 1:58 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Skin Problem
  
  hmmm apple cidar? Never heard of it 
sorry


Re: Skin Problem

2005-09-25 Thread Lernermichelle


Charlie, an FIV+ cat at the shelter, developed this and it kept getting worse. He got two steroid shots (I can not remember the name of the steroid but it started with a T) and then was on prednisone for a few weeks. I also removed him from the feral cat yard and put him in the shelter, and he got treatment for ear mites and had his ears cleaned out. He got better. I found him a home and he completely recovered, from having lost about 1/2 his fur and having lots of red patches, to being fine. To this day we do not know what caused it-- him scratching because his ears itched, him having an allergy to something in his surroundings, stress, or none of the above.
Michelle


Re: OT: Skin Problem

2005-02-21 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
Good idea, ThanksKarolyn Lount [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, If you cover the carrier with a towel you do not have to worry aboutanything getting into your car.

Re: OT: Skin Problem

2005-02-20 Thread catatonya
Cherie,

I too wonder what is going on with this woman. I assumed she took the cat in and had it examined? Surely her vet didn't give her fulvicin based ona phone call?

Fulvicin is a medication that is hard on cat's systems, particularly kittens In my experience vets won't prescribe it unless topicals don't do the job because of the problems it can cause.

Ringworm IS very contagious. I would not bring the kitten home until it's treated, unless you feel the person is not treating it correctly...

tNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cherie,I'm confused, maybe I haven't been following this closely enough. From what you said before, it doesn't sound like ringworm. If the woman who is fostering your new baby doesn't know what she's got, why is she treating her with something for ringworm? I've never heard of Fulvicin, so I don't know if that's a full-spectrum type of treatment. If I were you, I'd find out what the heck is going on with her skin before I brought her home. If there's even a chance that its something contagious, you don't want to expose the rest of the family to it. From what I've read and heard about ringworm, it's nasty, nasty stuff. It is contagious to people as well as animals and very hard to get rid of. Not to mention that the treatments are hard on the immune system and would be a nightmare for your positives. Why hasn't the new baby,
 (I'm sorry I've forgotten her name), been taken to a vet for diagnosis? I would strongly advise you do that asap. When you know what you're dealing with the decisions will be easier to make.NinaCherie A Gabbert wrote: 

Fulvicin, treats ringworm, according to the woman she is mixing it in her food...I just am not there and do not want to bring any other problems into my furrfamilyI am so undecided...should I wait another week or go get my new furrbaby and take the chance..[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
What is Fulvicin?I don't know if it can be anything contagious, but if it is flaky skin and fur I would supplement with essential fatty acids (fish oils). There are a bunch of cat supplements with EFA's in them, specifically for coat problems. Michelle 

Re: OT: Skin Problem

2005-02-20 Thread Gloria B. Lane
For skin problems, I use Golden Seal or Gentian VIolet.  My grandmother 
told us about gentian violet for ringworm,back in the 50's.  I've never 
seen it not work.  But it's messy, I always have to be careful about 
getting this purple stuff on so that it doesn't make a mess. Drug stores 
here still have it for a few dollars.

Golden seal is used on open areas that need to hea.   It's great too, not 
messy (a little yellow sometimes). I use it on scratches, wounds, mouth 
ulcers, etc.  It's also an anti fungal.  I get it at the health food store.

FYI -
Gloria

At 05:08 PM 2/19/2005, Cherie A Gabbert wrote:
Hi all,
Just a question, the new kitty from Wisconsin, her hair has grown back on 
her lower outer thigh (it was only broken at the shaft) there has been no 
redness or any other skin nuancethe woman that she is with is using 
Microtek (as a percaution) and giving her Fulvicin (again just as a 
percaution), but now she said when brushed brown flakes come off...This 
just does not sound like ringworm to me, and suggestions? I really want to 
pick her up on Tuesday, but for my furr babies and son's sake I am a 
little leary.

Thanks
Cherie



Re: OT: Skin Problem

2005-02-20 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I've never used Fulvicin, but I wouldn't hesitate to use it.  I'd probably 
stop the Fulvicin and just use some Golden Seal.  I've used Gentian Violet 
recently on a cat (Sparkle)'s ears, had some fungus that looked like 
ringworm.  Did 1 or 2 applications , and it looks much better.  May just do 
some golden seal in water on them at this point.

Gloria
At 12:21 PM 2/20/2005, you wrote:
I will look into that...and talk to her about Golden Seal, will there be 
any reaction with what she is using so farit is Fulvicin and Microtek 
shampoo every 5 days.
Thank you for your input

Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For skin problems, I use Golden Seal or Gentian VIolet. My grandmother
told us about gentian violet for ringworm,back in the 50's. I've never
seen it not work. But it's messy, I always have to be careful about
getting this purple stuff on so that it doesn't make a mess. Drug stores
here still have it for a few dollars.
Golden seal is used on open areas that need to hea. It's great too, not
messy (a little yellow sometimes). I use it on scratches, wounds, mouth
ulcers, etc. It's also an anti fungal. I get it at the health food store.
FYI -
Gloria

At 05:08 PM 2/19/2005, Cherie A Gabbert wrote:
Hi all,
Just a question, the new kitty from Wisconsin, her hair has grown back on
her lower outer thigh (it was only broken at the shaft) there has been no
redness or any other skin nuancethe woman that she is with is using
Microtek (as a percaution) and giving her Fulvicin (again just as a
percaution), but now she said when brushed brown flakes come off...This
just does not sound like ringworm to me, and suggestions? I really want to
pick her up on Tuesday, but for my furr babies and son's sake I am a
little leary.

Thanks
Cherie



Re: OT: Skin Problem

2005-02-20 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
Thanks, it looks like with all this information I may pick her up on Tuesday...I would hate to have her stay another week with this gal.
Cherie"Gloria B. Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've never used Fulvicin, but I wouldn't hesitate to use it. I'd probably stop the Fulvicin and just use some Golden Seal. I've used Gentian Violet recently on a cat (Sparkle)'s ears, had some fungus that looked like ringworm. Did 1 or 2 applications , and it looks much better. May just do some golden seal in water on them at this point.GloriaAt 12:21 PM 2/20/2005, you wrote:I will look into that...and talk to her about Golden Seal, will there be any reaction with what she is using so farit is Fulvicin and Microtek shampoo every 5 days.Thank you for your input"Gloria B. Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:For skin problems, I use Golden Seal or Gentian VIolet. My grandmothertold us about gentian violet for ringworm,back in the 50's. I've neverseen it not work. But it's messy,
 I always have to be careful aboutgetting this purple stuff on so that it doesn't make a mess. Drug storeshere still have it for a few dollars.Golden seal is used on open areas that need to hea. It's great too, notmessy (a little yellow sometimes). I use it on scratches, wounds, mouthulcers, etc. It's also an anti fungal. I get it at the health food store.FYI -GloriaAt 05:08 PM 2/19/2005, Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Hi all, Just a question, the new kitty from Wisconsin, her hair has grown back on her lower outer thigh (it was only broken at the shaft) there has been no redness or any other skin nuancethe woman that she is with is using Microtek (as a percaution) and giving her Fulvicin (again just as a percaution), but now she said when brushed brown flakes come off...This just does
 not sound like ringworm to me, and suggestions? I really want to pick her up on Tuesday, but for my furr babies and son's sake I am a little leary.  Thanks Cherie

Re: OT: Skin Problem

2005-02-20 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
I was also wondering how long after applications would it be contagious. When you used it on Sparkle's ears were you concerned for your other cats, and did anyone esle get it?
"Gloria B. Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've never used Fulvicin, but I wouldn't hesitate to use it. I'd probably stop the Fulvicin and just use some Golden Seal. I've used Gentian Violet recently on a cat (Sparkle)'s ears, had some fungus that looked like ringworm. Did 1 or 2 applications , and it looks much better. May just do some golden seal in water on them at this point.GloriaAt 12:21 PM 2/20/2005, you wrote:I will look into that...and talk to her about Golden Seal, will there be any reaction with what she is using so farit is Fulvicin and Microtek shampoo every 5 days.Thank you for your input"Gloria B. Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:For skin problems, I use Golden Seal or Gentian VIolet. My grandmothertold us about gentian violet for ringworm,back in the 50's. I've neverseen it not work. But it's messy,
 I always have to be careful aboutgetting this purple stuff on so that it doesn't make a mess. Drug storeshere still have it for a few dollars.Golden seal is used on open areas that need to hea. It's great too, notmessy (a little yellow sometimes). I use it on scratches, wounds, mouthulcers, etc. It's also an anti fungal. I get it at the health food store.FYI -GloriaAt 05:08 PM 2/19/2005, Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Hi all, Just a question, the new kitty from Wisconsin, her hair has grown back on her lower outer thigh (it was only broken at the shaft) there has been no redness or any other skin nuancethe woman that she is with is using Microtek (as a percaution) and giving her Fulvicin (again just as a percaution), but now she said when brushed brown flakes come off...This just does
 not sound like ringworm to me, and suggestions? I really want to pick her up on Tuesday, but for my furr babies and son's sake I am a little leary.  Thanks Cherie

Re: OT: Skin Problem

2005-02-20 Thread Skf95111
Dear Cherie:

While Fulvicin is not horrendously toxic, any kind of chemical we put on our 
pets can be potentially harmful, especially to young kittens and pups.  I had 
a cat once that crashed from a spot-on flea product and went into in toxic 
shock, yet many cats tolerate such products quite well.  I had to take her to 
emergency and she had to have a blood transfusion.  My first choice in treating 
a 
problem is to go with an herbal or homeopathic remedy and only use drug 
therapy as a last resort.

I have never had to deal with ringworm and while it is a fungal type thing, 
it usually most affects those whose immune function is not up to snuff.  Young 
kittens and pups who have immature immune systems and are not in the best 
condition, as is often the case with feral or abandoned kittens (and adults, 
too) 
are likely victims.  Once it gets started, it can spread quite easily, so you 
do want to make sure it is not ringworm before you bring the new kitty home 
unless you have a place to isolate her and are careful with hygiene.

I can understand where the kitten's foster mom is coming from...I do rescue 
and there are lots of times when I have to wing it in treating minor problems, 
but I only do so with something I have experience treating and I always try a 
kinder, gentler method to start with.  But if that isn't working and a problem 
is not responding, I will find a way to get the furkid to vet to find out for 
sure what I am dealing with.  I do find it a bit irritating that even after 
you offered to pay for the treatment that she can't find time to take the 
kitten to a vet, but then who knows what else and all she has on her plate to 
deal 
with.

I am not well-versed on dealing with ringworm.  I do know that when exposed 
to a certain kind of light or perhaps a chemical of some sort, because ringworm 
is a fungus (not a parasite as the name implies) it will, typically 
flouresce.  But I also know from chatting with listmember Nina ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) 
who recently had a ringworm scare with one of her dogs, that sometimes a 
ringworm infection does not present typical symptoms.  Have you tried doing a 
search to find out more about ringworm and how to treat it?

I do have another friend who does rescue and she took in two kittens in very 
poor condition that had ringworm.  I don't remember what she treated them 
with, but they both recovered and the infection did not spread to any of her 
healthy kittys.  Another friend took the third sibling to the two, and she did 
have 
two older kittens that seemed to be mildly affected from exposure to that 
kitten, with a few tiny spots appearing on their ears that went away quickly 
with 
treatment.  As with the spread of FeLV, a healthy adult cat is more resistant 
to infection, but there is always a chance.

How far away from you is the kitten? Would you be able to go there and take 
her to a vet if the foster mom won't cooperate?  I really don't understand her 
attitude as when I have a good potential home for one of my rescues, I will 
try to walk on water if need be to do everything I can to facilitate the 
placement.  You might try one more time to talk to her and insist that you need 
to 
know for sure what is going on with the kitten and be sure it is not something 
contagious that could spread to your other cats.  It is her responsibility to 
make sure you are adopting a healthy cat, or at least made fully aware of any 
health problems and just what you are dealing with. You might try telling her 
if she is not willing to do that you could very easily find another kitten to 
adopt, but I know I would have a hard time doing that for fear she would say 
fine, go ahead, out of spite. It all depends on how desperate she is to get the 
kitten adopted.  If it were an older cat I'd be less worried about that, but 
kittens are much easier to place than older cats.  During kitten season, it is 
almost impossible to place older cats and we sometimes have more people 
wanting to adopt kittens than we have kittens available. 

If you go ahead and take the kitten now, do you have a friend or neighbor who 
could keep her for you for a day or two until you can get a clean bill of 
health from your own vet??

It's a tough call.  I hope you are able to find a way to solve this without 
taking an undue risk.

Sally in San Jose   



Re: OT: Skin Problem

2005-02-20 Thread catatonya
Cherie,

In my opinion.. just that... my opinion. I would take this cat straight to the vet for a scraping for ringworm. If it is ringworm it's highly contagious and you would have a mess on your hands treating all your cats.

If it's ringworm it's an airborne fungus, so it's very hard to keep it contained. 

tCherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Also which one should I use, I attached a list there are so many different varieties of Goldenseal http://www.iherb.com/goldenseal2.html?ovmkt=2HNSTEDPIDQTHR46N88VVFOIH4OVRAW=%22golden%20seal%22OVKEY=golden%20sealOVMTC=standard
same with gentian violet
http://shop2.chemassociates.com/shopsite/Chemassoc2/PAS-gentianviolet.html?OVRAW=Genetian%20VioletOVKEY=gentian%20violetOVMTC=standard
Can you help me with which one is best, how and when to administer, also durationI really appreciate your help and insight.
Cherie
"Gloria B. Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've never used Fulvicin, but I wouldn't hesitate to use it. I'd probably stop the Fulvicin and just use some Golden Seal. I've used Gentian Violet recently on a cat (Sparkle)'s ears, had some fungus that looked like ringworm. Did 1 or 2 applications , and it looks much better. May just do some golden seal in water on them at this point.GloriaAt 12:21 PM 2/20/2005, you wrote:I will look into that...and talk to her about Golden Seal, will there be any reaction with what she is using so farit is Fulvicin and Microtek shampoo every 5 days.Thank you for your input"Gloria B. Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:For skin problems, I use Golden Seal or Gentian VIolet. My grandmothertold us about gentian violet for ringworm,back in the 50's. I've neverseen it not work. But it's messy,
 I always have to be careful aboutgetting this purple stuff on so that it doesn't make a mess. Drug storeshere still have it for a few dollars.Golden seal is used on open areas that need to hea. It's great too, notmessy (a little yellow sometimes). I use it on scratches, wounds, mouthulcers, etc. It's also an anti fungal. I get it at the health food store.FYI -GloriaAt 05:08 PM 2/19/2005, Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Hi all, Just a question, the new kitty from Wisconsin, her hair has grown back on her lower outer thigh (it was only broken at the shaft) there has been no redness or any other skin nuancethe woman that she is with is using Microtek (as a percaution) and giving her Fulvicin (again just as a percaution), but now she said when brushed brown flakes come off...This just does
 not sound like ringworm to me, and suggestions? I really want to pick her up on Tuesday, but for my furr babies and son's sake I am a little leary.  Thanks Cherie

Re: OT: Skin Problem

2005-02-20 Thread catatonya
My understanding, maybe I'm wrong, is that fulvicin is an internal med. you use when topicals don't work?

t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Cherie:While Fulvicin is not horrendously toxic, any kind of chemical we put on our pets can be potentially harmful, especially to young kittens and pups. I had a cat once that crashed from a spot-on flea product and went into in toxic shock, yet many cats tolerate such products quite well. I had to take her to emergency and she had to have a blood transfusion. My first choice in treating a problem is to go with an herbal or homeopathic remedy and only use drug therapy as a last resort.I have never had to deal with ringworm and while it is a fungal type thing, it usually most affects those whose immune function is not up to snuff. Young kittens and pups who have immature immune systems and are not in the best condition, as is often the case with feral or abandoned kittens (and adults, too) are likely victims. Once it gets
 started, it can spread quite easily, so you do want to make sure it is not ringworm before you bring the new kitty home unless you have a place to isolate her and are careful with hygiene.I can understand where the kitten's foster mom is coming from...I do rescue and there are lots of times when I have to wing it in treating minor problems, but I only do so with something I have experience treating and I always try a kinder, gentler method to start with. But if that isn't working and a problem is not responding, I will find a way to get the furkid to vet to find out for sure what I am dealing with. I do find it a bit irritating that even after you offered to pay for the treatment that she can't find time to take the kitten to a vet, but then who knows what else and all she has on her plate to deal with.I am not well-versed on dealing with ringworm. I do know that when exposed to a certain kind of light or perhaps a chemical
 of some sort, because ringworm is a fungus (not a parasite as the name implies) it will, typically "flouresce." But I also know from chatting with listmember Nina ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) who recently had a ringworm "scare" with one of her dogs, that sometimes a ringworm infection does not present "typical" symptoms. Have you tried doing a search to find out more about ringworm and how to treat it?I do have another friend who does rescue and she took in two kittens in very poor condition that had ringworm. I don't remember what she treated them with, but they both recovered and the infection did not spread to any of her healthy kittys. Another friend took the third sibling to the two, and she did have two older kittens that seemed to be mildly affected from exposure to that kitten, with a few tiny spots appearing on their ears that went away quickly with treatment. As with the spread of FeLV, a healthy adult cat is more resistant
 to infection, but there is always a chance.How far away from you is the kitten? Would you be able to go there and take her to a vet if the foster mom won't cooperate? I really don't understand her attitude as when I have a good potential home for one of my rescues, I will try to walk on water if need be to do everything I can to facilitate the placement. You might try one more time to talk to her and insist that you need to know for sure what is going on with the kitten and be sure it is not something contagious that could spread to your other cats. It is her responsibility to make sure you are adopting a healthy cat, or at least made fully aware of any health problems and just what you are dealing with. You might try telling her if she is not willing to do that you could very easily find another kitten to adopt, but I know I would have a hard time doing that for fear she would say fine, go ahead, out of spite. It all depends
 on how desperate she is to get the kitten adopted. If it were an older cat I'd be less worried about that, but kittens are much easier to place than older cats. During kitten season, it is almost impossible to place older cats and we sometimes have more people wanting to adopt kittens than we have kittens available. If you go ahead and take the kitten now, do you have a friend or neighbor who could keep her for you for a day or two until you can get a clean bill of health from your own vet??It's a tough call. I hope you are able to find a way to solve this without taking an undue risk.Sally in San Jose 

OT: Skin Problem

2005-02-19 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
Hi all,
Just a question, the new kitty from Wisconsin, her hair has grown back on her lower outer thigh (it was only broken at the shaft) there has been no redness or any other skin nuancethe woman that she is with is using Microtek (as a percaution) and giving her Fulvicin (again just as a percaution), but now she said when brushed brown flakes come off...This just does not sound like ringworm to me, and suggestions? I really want to pick her up on Tuesday, but for my furr babies and son's sake I am a little leary.

Thanks
Cherie

Re: OT: Skin Problem

2005-02-19 Thread Nina




Cherie,
I'm confused, maybe I haven't been following this closely enough. From
what you said before, it doesn't sound like ringworm. If the woman who
is fostering your new baby doesn't know what she's got, why is she
treating her with something for ringworm? I've never heard of
Fulvicin, so I don't know if that's a full-spectrum type of treatment.
If I were you, I'd find out what the heck is going on with her skin
before I brought her home. If there's even a chance that its something
contagious, you don't want to expose the rest of the family to it.
>From what I've read and heard about ringworm, it's nasty, nasty stuff.
It is contagious to people as well as animals and very hard to get rid
of. Not to mention that the treatments are hard on the immune system
and would be a nightmare for your positives. Why hasn't the new baby,
(I'm sorry I've forgotten her name), been taken to a vet for
diagnosis? I would strongly advise you do that asap. When you know
what you're dealing with the decisions will be easier to make.
Nina

Cherie A Gabbert wrote:

  Fulvicin, treats ringworm, according to the woman she is mixing
it in her food...I just am not there and do not want to bring any other
problems into my furrfamilyI am so undecided...should I wait
another week or go get my new furrbaby and take the chance..
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What is Fulvicin?

I don't know if it can be anything contagious, but if it is flaky skin
and fur I would supplement with essential fatty acids (fish oils).
There are a bunch of cat supplements with EFA's in them, specifically
for coat problems. 

Michelle 
  





Fwd: Re: OT: Skin problem (Barb)

2005-02-14 Thread Cherie A Gabbert


Barb,
I went to the archives and found this message, I hope it is not ringworm. Hopefully I will know soon.
Cherie


Re: OT: Skin problem
Barb MoermondMon, 14 Feb 2005 07:55:55 -0800

I hate to be the one to mention this, but has the spot been tested for ringworm?

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I will hopefully now more this afternoon, I am just crushed though, I hope it is nothing serious that could delay my getting her. Everyone in the house has been told about her, but I will take your suggestions also. My son is beside himself anxious (another reason why I do not want to put off picking her up). She is just 12 weeks so she is a young one, and yes my vet will check her out the same day, since my vet comes to the house it will not be as traumatic. I just hope it is nothing serious, but I will keep you updated. By the by I also read that petting the resident cats in front of the new member helps the transition for the other cats to cope better.

Thanks
Cherie
ina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only experience I've had with "skin problems" have been from flea allergies. Do they have any more information about what this is? Has Sprinkles been checked out by a vet? I always segregate anyone new coming into the house until they've had time to calm down and adjust to the sounds and smells of the new household. I wouldn't take any chances. Make sure you wash your hands after touching Sprinkles, if she's going to be in a separate room, I'd keep a pair of shoes at the inside of the door to wear only while you're in there with her. That way you won't inadvertently be spreading anything. If Sprinkles hasn't been to a vet, I'd get her to one as soon as she calms down a bit. How old is she? What does she look like? Very exciting stuff to be adding a new member to the household. Is your son excited? Don't forget to tell your current
 kitties that you'll need their help to make Sprinkles feel welcome. I just lent my sister a book about cat psychology. It suggests using your other cat's name when talking to the newcomer, even through a closed door. Saying things like Sprinkles is Amber's cat. Amber, I'm going to go in and check on your Sprinkles for you. What the hell, it can't hurt!NinaCherie A Gabbert wrote: I just got an email about Sprinkles the kitty I am picking up in  Wisconsin, she could possibly have skin problem on her back hind leg,  I do not have any info yet, but as a general rule how contagious are  skin problems? Cherie---End Message---