Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
James, is this still on your ftp site? I have two goes at downloading 3.1 from the Nikon site but it keeps bombing out. i would be *very* grateful if you could give me temp access to download it from your site instead? best regards Pete Cutter - Original Message - From: James Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Claudiu Falub' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:56 AM Subject: RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0 You can grab it from me by ftp at 62.31.210.174 username nikon password nikon James Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jamesgrove.co.uk http://www.mountain-photos.co.uk ICQ 99737573 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Claudiu Falub Sent: 06 July 2001 09:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0 Hi! I've recently purchased a Nikon LS IV scanner. It was delivered with Nikonscan 3.0. While the scanner is ok, I don't like the software, since it crashes all the time and I have to restart my computer and I hate that. I heard the new version 3.1 is better. How can I get it? The salesman told me that new version could be downloaded from internet, but he couldn't give more details. If so, where and how could I get this program? My system is a Pentium III, 1 GHz, 512 Mb SDRAM, Matrox G450 32 Mb. Thanks a lot in advance, Claudiu
RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
Same access just don't use IE or Passive mode for transfers -- James Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.jamesgrove.co.uk www.mountain-photos.co.uk ICQ 99737573 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pete Cutter Sent: 24 September 2001 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0 James, is this still on your ftp site? I have two goes at downloading 3.1 from the Nikon site but it keeps bombing out. i would be *very* grateful if you could give me temp access to download it from your site instead? best regards Pete Cutter - Original Message - From: James Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Claudiu Falub' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:56 AM Subject: RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0 You can grab it from me by ftp at 62.31.210.174 username nikon password nikon James Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jamesgrove.co.uk http://www.mountain-photos.co.uk ICQ 99737573 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Claudiu Falub Sent: 06 July 2001 09:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0 Hi! I've recently purchased a Nikon LS IV scanner. It was delivered with Nikonscan 3.0. While the scanner is ok, I don't like the software, since it crashes all the time and I have to restart my computer and I hate that. I heard the new version 3.1 is better. How can I get it? The salesman told me that new version could be downloaded from internet, but he couldn't give more details. If so, where and how could I get this program? My system is a Pentium III, 1 GHz, 512 Mb SDRAM, Matrox G450 32 Mb. Thanks a lot in advance, Claudiu
Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
Raphael Bustin wrote: A discussion on technical merits is what I expect. Recitations of unfounded, inflammatory opinions, alleged regional allegiances, pop-psychology and broad generalizations serve no useful purpose. rafe b. Respectfully, IY(perhaps H)O. Art
Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
Or they all are. Those of us who make a living from photography take the lists seriously. I've learned most of what I know about digital photography from lists such as this, and like Rafe, want to see on topic and relevant discussion. Dave - Original Message - From: Arthur Entlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 7:34 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0 Dave King wrote: Rafe, you are right on the money. Dave Luckily, most lists aren't much about money. ;-) Art
Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
rafeb wrote: At 06:11 AM 7/7/01 -0700, Art Entlich wrote: You know, some people have had problems with Nikon software... a LOT of problems. And quite a few have complained about Polaroid's scanner software as well. Not having their scanner or need for their software... So why add fuel to the fire, Art? rafe b. This is a silly comment, Rafe. I stated a fact. If you actually followed this thread you would know that it evolved from Claudiu's frustration with the versions of Nikonscan for a variety of reasons. Ray Amos chimed in with a rather aggressive comment defending his software (Nikonscan) and how Claudiu was somehow lacking in being critical of the software, and so Ray offered to set him straight about it. My comment, based upon fact, was that Nikon's scanner software has had a history of many problems, and that these same problems extended to several Nikon peripherals their scanners work with. I am continually amazed how defensive some Nikon owners have been and continue to be about criticism of Nikon products. I think this is called compensation in my text books. Sort of like people who buy hot sports cars and think women will assume certain of their body parts are bigger than they really are, as a result. ;-) What any of this has to do with Polaroid is beyond me. Not I, nor anyone else in this particular thread has mentioned anything about Polaroid, nor was I comparing Nikon's scanner software with any other brand. I simply was stating that Claudiu's perception was not at all uncommon amongst people who have used Nikon scanner software and are willing to comment about it honestly. Art PS: I'm an equal opportunity cynic BTW, I think the whole industry needs a kick in the butt when it comes to scanner software they include with their products. And that fire needs all the fuel added to it that can be provided.
Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
At 02:46 AM 7/9/01 -0700, Art Entlich wrote: snip My comment, based upon fact, was that Nikon's scanner software has had a history of many problems, and that these same problems extended to several Nikon peripherals their scanners work with. Oh, poop, Art. Go to the PhotographyReview web site and look at how people complain about scanner software -- both Nikon and Polaroid owners. I'd be hard pressed to tell which ones are more upset with their scanner software. In their defense, Polaroid has had the good sense to bundle a decent 3rd-party package with their latest scanners. And in their defense, Nikon seems to have finally done a good thing with NS 3.1, which by most accounts is a solid step forward. I am continually amazed how defensive some Nikon owners have been and continue to be about criticism of Nikon products. I think this is called compensation in my text books. Sort of like people who buy hot sports cars and think women will assume certain of their body parts are bigger than they really are, as a result. ;-) Spare us the pop-psychology, please Art. The point was that you don't even *own* a Nikon scanner, by your own admission, but are quick to take sides in an argument involving Nikon scanner sotware. Why not just take a breather on this topic? Give it a rest. I wasn't defending Nikon software. I was criticizing you for offering an opinion on a controversial topic, where your opinion has no basis in direct experience. What any of this has to do with Polaroid is beyond me. By singling out Nikon as a company writing lousy scanner software, others might presume that Canon, Minolta, Polaroid, Acer, HP, Leaf, Kodak or Brand Z must be doing a better job in that department. rafe b.
Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
I have to, and will, agree with Art on this one--even though it's fun to argue with him, occasionally. ;-) The main point is that regardless of how *monolithic* sofware companies believe themselves to be (Microsoft and Adobe come to mind), and how *infallable* some engineers occasionally consider themselves to be (no present company included or excluded), the fact remains that it's you and I who are down here in the trenches, working with these machines and this software. I'm happy to say that at least a few members on this list are one or both of the above, and *do* pay attention. But the vast majority are more concerned with their blocks of code and their stock-sharing contracts than they are with the users. Does anyone have any doubts about *why* the tech markets have dropped so significantly in the last year? I've bitched about this since I got my first computer--OK, I've learned how to use it--now when are you guys gonna make it *useable* for me? Computing's come a long way since I first started bitching, but it ain't there yet. :-( I remain an Equal Oportunity Cynic, like Art. I should probably make more noise when I see a good program (like Vuescan), or good hardware (like Dell). But as far as I see it, we users are largely oversupplied, oversold, and underserved by the industry. The Industry *does* in fact need a good, swift, kick in the butt. :-) Best regards from the Rust Belt--LRA From: Arthur Entlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 02:46:40 -0700 rafeb wrote: At 06:11 AM 7/7/01 -0700, Art Entlich wrote: You know, some people have had problems with Nikon software... a LOT of problems. And quite a few have complained about Polaroid's scanner software as well. Not having their scanner or need for their software... So why add fuel to the fire, Art? rafe b. This is a silly comment, Rafe. I stated a fact. If you actually followed this thread you would know that it evolved from Claudiu's frustration with the versions of Nikonscan for a variety of reasons. Ray Amos chimed in with a rather aggressive comment defending his software (Nikonscan) and how Claudiu was somehow lacking in being critical of the software, and so Ray offered to set him straight about it. My comment, based upon fact, was that Nikon's scanner software has had a history of many problems, and that these same problems extended to several Nikon peripherals their scanners work with. I am continually amazed how defensive some Nikon owners have been and continue to be about criticism of Nikon products. I think this is called compensation in my text books. Sort of like people who buy hot sports cars and think women will assume certain of their body parts are bigger than they really are, as a result. ;-) What any of this has to do with Polaroid is beyond me. Not I, nor anyone else in this particular thread has mentioned anything about Polaroid, nor was I comparing Nikon's scanner software with any other brand. I simply was stating that Claudiu's perception was not at all uncommon amongst people who have used Nikon scanner software and are willing to comment about it honestly. Art PS: I'm an equal opportunity cynic BTW, I think the whole industry needs a kick in the butt when it comes to scanner software they include with their products. And that fire needs all the fuel added to it that can be provided. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
Rafe wrote: By singling out Nikon as a company writing lousy scanner software, others might presume that Canon, Minolta, Polaroid, Acer, HP, Leaf, Kodak or Brand Z must be doing a better job in that department. Poor documentation is at least 1/2 the problem in these complaints--I'd direct anyone interested to the Letters Page of PC World (Aug 2001). The other half can probably be found in Scott Adams' Dilbert cartoons (available in soft-cover, if your newspaper doesn't carry it). Is the criticism valid? Yeah, it is. And it's fixable, too. Have I seen anybody trying to do so, lately? Nuh-uh. AFAIC, the mfgrs are just cutting to deep to be competitive--they're cutting the product, cutting the user, and ultimately cutting themselves, IMHO. Best regards--LRA _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
good documentation cost money, and its not a sexy feature..ie. it will not sell more scanners. So that's why you see poor documentation.. Lets be honest here ok? Lynn Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Poor documentation is at least 1/2 the problem in these complaints--I'd direct anyone interested to the Letters Page of PC World (Aug 2001). The other half can probably be found in Scott Adams' Dilbert cartoons (available in soft-cover, if your newspaper doesn't carry it). Is the criticism valid? Yeah, it is. And it's fixable, too. Have I seen anybody trying to do so, lately? Nuh-uh. AFAIC, the mfgrs are just cutting to deep to be competitive--they're cutting the product, cutting the user, and ultimately cutting themselves, IMHO. Best regards--LRA Herm Astropics http://home.att.net/~hermperez
Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
At 20:23 09-07-01 +, Lynn Allen wrote: The main point is that regardless of how *monolithic* sofware companies believe themselves to be (Microsoft and Adobe come to mind), and how *infallable* some engineers occasionally consider themselves to be (no present company included or excluded), the fact remains that it's you and I who are down here in the trenches, working with these machines and this software. I'm happy to say that at least a few members on this list are one or both of the above, and *do* pay attention. But the vast majority are more concerned with their blocks of code and their stock-sharing contracts than they are with the users. snip I remain an Equal Oportunity Cynic, like Art. I should probably make more noise when I see a good program (like Vuescan), or good hardware (like Dell). But as far as I see it, we users are largely oversupplied, oversold, and underserved by the industry. The Industry *does* in fact need a good, swift, kick in the butt. :-) Of course it does but the US-DOJ apparently wasn't up to the job. That leaves us consumers. Sidebar// nobody can truly detest and disrespect Microsoft as much as someone who was on the inside for six years as I was [former Senior Technical Writer--Windows NT Server Resource Kit 91-97]. I was at enough company meetings to know how they really think and it's not pretty. http://www.enochsvision.com/bluescreen/bluescreen.html http://www.enochsvision.com/bluescreen/BlueScreen.PDF (not linked from intro page) Cary Enoch Reinstein aka Enoch's Vision, Inc., Peach County, Georgia http://www.enochsvision.com/, http://www.bahaivision.com/ -- Behind all these manifestations is the one radiance, which shines through all things. The function of art is to reveal this radiance through the created object. ~Joseph Campbell
Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
Rafe, you are right on the money. Dave - Original Message - From: Raphael Bustin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 7:11 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0 On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Lynn Allen wrote: Is the criticism valid? Yeah, it is. And it's fixable, too. Have I seen anybody trying to do so, lately? Nuh-uh. AFAIC, the mfgrs are just cutting to deep to be competitive--they're cutting the product, cutting the user, and ultimately cutting themselves, IMHO. With all due respect, Lynn -- your comments, while valid (as usual) are beside the point. I could, if I chose to, indulge in all sorts of brand-bashing. I've tried to stay on good behavior and avoid that. It serves no purpose. Whatever my issues may be with Nikon -- and I've been very blunt about them -- I've learned nothing on this list that will help me deal with those issues. Where I've discovered problems with my Nikon, and subsequent workarounds, I've shared this knowledge with the list. A discussion on technical merits is what I expect. Recitations of unfounded, inflammatory opinions, alleged regional allegiances, pop-psychology and broad generalizations serve no useful purpose. rafe b.
Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
Ray Amos wrote: Claudiu Falub wrote: Many thanks to all who answered to my request. It seems this is one very effective list. I downloaded the software and hope to solve my nightmare. I really don't understand why a famous company (read Nikon) can produce such a garbage (Nikonscan 3.0) ... Claudiu, Perhaps you should read your instructions and learn how to use your software before you start badmouthing Nikonscan software. I use it quite successfully (I use the latest version 3.1). So do many others on the usergroup. Actually I have tried Vuescan and Silverfast and like the Nikonscan software better. I have no problems. Again I suggest you learn how to use the software before you slander the entire company. More than likely you're problems are with your computer or your lack of knowhow. I do not think my software is garbage. I don't like you calling it garbage either. Nothing I can do about that though. If you live within 100 miles of Greensboro, NC I would be willing to drive to your home or office and try to help you solve your problems. Is that a threat? Jeez You know, some people have had problems with Nikon software... a LOT of problems. Not having their scanner or need for their software, I'm only responding based upon hundreds of postings about problems with different versions of Nikon driver software for their scanners, their filmstrip adapters, their bulk slide feeder, etc. etc. that I've read of. Actually, between the two of you, I'd say statistically Claudiu's comments more accurately represents the sentiment of more Nikon scanner users regarding their software. Of course, I'm lucky I can say this, being that I live far away from NC, and you probably won't send anyone to break my kneecaps. Art
Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
At 06:11 AM 7/7/01 -0700, Art Entlich wrote: You know, some people have had problems with Nikon software... a LOT of problems. And quite a few have complained about Polaroid's scanner software as well. Not having their scanner or need for their software... So why add fuel to the fire, Art? rafe b.
RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
I will say that some folks have not liked PolaColor Insight but hardly a week goes by without someone emailing me to say they don't know what all the fuss is about because Insight works great for them. I am unaware of anyone who has complained about the PolaColor Insight/Silverfast bundle we have been shipping for some time and with the addition of Binuscan for the Sprintscan 120 the software bundle is even more robust. Several customers have told me the software bundle was the deciding factor in purchasing the Polaroid product. David -Original Message- From: rafeb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 7:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0 At 06:11 AM 7/7/01 -0700, Art Entlich wrote: You know, some people have had problems with Nikon software... a LOT of problems. And quite a few have complained about Polaroid's scanner software as well. Not having their scanner or need for their software... So why add fuel to the fire, Art? rafe b.
RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
The fuzz was a inferior Polaroid Insight software during at least 2 years.! Yes David ! Nikon have done the same mistakes as Polaroid did when they released the first Insight version. Pre released and poor in all respects. In other words - It took Polaroid more than 2 years to produce as you say a good Insight version. And it took Polaroid at least 1.5 year to understand the mistake and budle SS4000 with Silverfast. In my case it was to late- I had allready return the scanner to Polaroid. I think you (David) remember all the e-mail discussion we had 2 years back.( Anders Lindquist Polaroid Sweden, you and me ) The only thing now is to hope that Nikon also bundle LS4000 with Silverfast I have the new Silverfast version to LS 4000 and its works as a dream compare to NikonScan 3.1. and Polaroid Insight. Ps. my old Polaroid 35+ works also like a dream with 2.7.1 plugin and contrasty negative scannings. Mikael Risedal From: Hemingway, David J [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0 Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 15:41:19 -0400 I will say that some folks have not liked PolaColor Insight but hardly a week goes by without someone emailing me to say they don't know what all the fuss is about because Insight works great for them. I am unaware of anyone who has complained about the PolaColor Insight/Silverfast bundle we have been shipping for some time and with the addition of Binuscan for the Sprintscan 120 the software bundle is even more robust. Several customers have told me the software bundle was the deciding factor in purchasing the Polaroid product. David -Original Message- From: rafeb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 7:59 AM To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0 At 06:11 AM 7/7/01 -0700, Art Entlich wrote: You know, some people have had problems with Nikon software... a LOT of problems. And quite a few have complained about Polaroid's scanner software as well. Not having their scanner or need for their software... So why add fuel to the fire, Art? rafe b. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
You can grab it from me by ftp at 62.31.210.174 username nikon password nikon James Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jamesgrove.co.uk http://www.mountain-photos.co.uk ICQ 99737573 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Claudiu Falub Sent: 06 July 2001 09:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0 Hi! I've recently purchased a Nikon LS IV scanner. It was delivered with Nikonscan 3.0. While the scanner is ok, I don't like the software, since it crashes all the time and I have to restart my computer and I hate that. I heard the new version 3.1 is better. How can I get it? The salesman told me that new version could be downloaded from internet, but he couldn't give more details. If so, where and how could I get this program? My system is a Pentium III, 1 GHz, 512 Mb SDRAM, Matrox G450 32 Mb. Thanks a lot in advance, Claudiu
Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
At 10:29 AM 7/6/01 +0200, you wrote: Hi! I've recently purchased a Nikon LS IV scanner. It was delivered with Nikonscan 3.0. While the scanner is ok, I don't like the software, since it crashes all the time and I have to restart my computer and I hate that. I heard the new version 3.1 is better. How can I get it? The salesman told me that new version could be downloaded from internet, but he couldn't give more details. If so, where and how could I get this program? My system is a Pentium III, 1 GHz, 512 Mb SDRAM, Matrox G450 32 Mb. Thanks a lot in advance, Claudiu Try: http://www.nikontechusa.com or http://www.nikon-euro.com/ I've had mostly good luck with NikonScan 3.1, though there were problems with the installation. Specifically -- there were conflicts with some existing peripherals that caused NikonScan to run very slowly. But no crashes, ever -- then or now. Be on the lookout for conflicts with existing SCSI and/or USB devices. Also, potential conflicts with Wacom pen pads. I don't know if the LS IV is Firewire or not, but if it is, there are a couple of additional gotchas: you need to be running Win98 2nd Edition or later, and you need to apply an OS patch to make Firewire behave, if it is Win98 SE. The patch was supplied on my NikonScan CD, or you can download it from Microsoft's website -- www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads and search for 242975USA8.EXE or maybe IEEE 1394 Like I said -- it was a messy installation, but now that the dust has settled, I like this program a lot. rafe b.
Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
Many thanks to all who answered to my request. It seems this is one very effective list. I downloaded the software and hope to solve my nightmare. I really don't understand why a famous company (read Nikon) can produce such a garbage (Nikonscan 3.0) ... Cladiu Falub James Grove wrote: You can grab it from me by ftp at
Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Claudiu Falub wrote: Many thanks to all who answered to my request. It seems this is one very effective list. I downloaded the software and hope to solve my nightmare. I really don't understand why a famous company (read Nikon) can produce such a garbage (Nikonscan 3.0) ... Not to defend Nikon, but they're not the only famous company shipping lousy software. FWIW, I am fairly content with NikonScan 3.1. I have yet to find a perfect scanner driver. rafe b.
Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
Claudiu Falub wrote: Many thanks to all who answered to my request. It seems this is one very effective list. I downloaded the software and hope to solve my nightmare. I really don't understand why a famous company (read Nikon) can produce such a garbage (Nikonscan 3.0) ... Claudiu, Perhaps you should read your instructions and learn how to use your software before you start badmouthing Nikonscan software. I use it quite successfully (I use the latest version 3.1). So do many others on the usergroup. Actually I have tried Vuescan and Silverfast and like the Nikonscan software better. I have no problems. Again I suggest you learn how to use the software before you slander the entire company. More than likely you're problems are with your computer or your lack of knowhow. I do not think my software is garbage. I don't like you calling it garbage either. Nothing I can do about that though. If you live within 100 miles of Greensboro, NC I would be willing to drive to your home or office and try to help you solve your problems. Ray Amos
RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
Ray, my software ??!! did you write it for Nikon? If not, I hardly think it's your software ;-) If you did then i have a few suggestions for you! I DO live within a 100 miles of greensboro and i'd love to have you come over and have a beer and i'll tell you how I think it could be improved Lawrence I do not think my software is garbage. I don't like you calling it garbage either.
Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
Lawrence Smith wrote: Ray, my software ??!! did you write it for Nikon? If not, I hardly think it's your software ;-) If you did then i have a few suggestions for you! I DO live within a 100 miles of greensboro and i'd love to have you come over and have a beer and i'll tell you how I think it could be improved Lawrence I do not think my software is garbage. I don't like you calling it garbage either. Lawrence, I can show you the receipt where I paid for the scanner, which included the software. That's like saying that your dishes are not yours because you did not make them. Or your vacuum cleaner is not yours because you did not make it. 'Nuf said by me. No more word games. I'll not respond to any public replies. If you want to e-mail me personally, fine. Ray Amos
RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
Ray Amos wrote: knowhow. I do not think my software is garbage. I don't like you The above sentence suggests that you are associated with Nikonscan software. It's nice to have somebody to take feedback from the actual users of the software. Bye Ramesh -Original Message- From: Ray Amos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 3:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0 Claudiu Falub wrote: Many thanks to all who answered to my request. It seems this is one very effective list. I downloaded the software and hope to solve my nightmare. I really don't understand why a famous company (read Nikon) can produce such a garbage (Nikonscan 3.0) ... Claudiu, Perhaps you should read your instructions and learn how to use your software before you start badmouthing Nikonscan software. I use it quite successfully (I use the latest version 3.1). So do many others on the usergroup. Actually I have tried Vuescan and Silverfast and like the Nikonscan software better. I have no problems. Again I suggest you learn how to use the software before you slander the entire company. More than likely you're problems are with your computer or your lack of knowhow. I do not think my software is garbage. I don't like you calling it garbage either. Nothing I can do about that though. If you live within 100 miles of Greensboro, NC I would be willing to drive to your home or office and try to help you solve your problems. Ray Amos
RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
I was worried, when I bought my LS40, that NS 3.0 would drive me crazy on my Win98 PC (note, not Win98SE which is recommended - ordinary 98 isn't). It crashed, twice, in 3 days of heavy usage. I was pleased that it was nowhere near as bad as reports led me to expect. Upgrading to 3.1, it hasn't crashed at all in 2 weeks of intensive scanning (2-7 hours per day). The user interface of NS is really fantastic. Photoshop could learn a thing or two (i.e the combined Levels/Curves/Histogram palettes). There are peeps with NS 2.5 who prefer it, it seems. I think there's a degree of luck involved here. 3.1 is much more popular than 3.0. I guess I was lucky to buy the scanner a few days after 3.1 became available for download... Unfortunately, NS is incapable of treating difficult negs with the respect that they deserve. It is rather slap-happy with its exposure, causing sky to blow out if the sky is only a small portion of the image (despite the fact that the sky is entirely within the dynamic range of the neg). If NS was a camera, most people would reject the camera's auto-exposures as unusable, in my view. NS applies a too-low gamma to the images it produces and it over-saturates most colour and makes people look like they've been grilled for a minute or too (their skin is too pink). (All of these comments apply to negs - slides seem pretty spectacular!) For negs, Vuescan seems entirely neutral in terms of exposure (leaving you to make the choice as to whether you want highlights or shadows to compress - if at all) but it also seems to be a little under-saturated (Fuji Super G, Kodak Supra 400/800) and imparts subtle hue shifts that make me think Vuescan. Vuescan is certainly the better software of the two, in terms of the final image. I just wish the user interface of Vuescan made more effort at being what you see is what you get. e.g. setting offsets is pure hit and miss which is a complete fallacy when we have the power of a *graphical* user interface at our disposal. Still, it was worth $40 to get a much more convincing idea of how my negs should look when scanned. I have a new, fairly radical, approach to scanning that I want to describe, but I need to spend some time constructing that description and some supporting files... Jawed -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ray Amos Sent: 06 July 2001 23:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0 Claudiu Falub wrote: Many thanks to all who answered to my request. It seems this is one very effective list. I downloaded the software and hope to solve my nightmare. I really don't understand why a famous company (read Nikon) can produce such a garbage (Nikonscan 3.0) ... Claudiu, Perhaps you should read your instructions and learn how to use your software before you start badmouthing Nikonscan software. I use it quite successfully (I use the latest version 3.1). So do many others on the usergroup. Actually I have tried Vuescan and Silverfast and like the Nikonscan software better. I have no problems. Again I suggest you learn how to use the software before you slander the entire company. More than likely you're problems are with your computer or your lack of knowhow. I do not think my software is garbage. I don't like you calling it garbage either. Nothing I can do about that though. If you live within 100 miles of Greensboro, NC I would be willing to drive to your home or office and try to help you solve your problems. Ray Amos
Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
Claudiu is obviously frustrated with his software, and I can understand how that can happen. I'm sure that just about everyone on this list knows that scanner software is notorious for being poorly documented, or buggy, or substandard in some way. Most people who buy a film scanner are doing so for the first time, so every thing is new to them. And filmscanning is not a large consumer market, it's very competitive, and the manufacturers seem to be short changing us on the quality of the software and its documentation in order to stay competitive and make money. And when you add in all of the other frustrations of scanner hardware you can't get repaired, companies that don't answer e-mail (or even have an e-mail address), companies who don't have an '800' phone line for support, software that's not compatible with certain operating systems (or at least not compatible with YOUR particular operating system), then I can understand how one might feel that the company that has caused you all of your pain, anguish, and nightmares is producing 'garbage.' (That doesn't make a person a slanderer, by the way.) I'd hate to tell you how many scanner executives I've dreamed about drowning in a warm bucket of nose drippings. (That doesn't make me a murderer, by the way.) I've managed to solve most of my problems and frustrations, in a small part due to what I've read on this list. Claudiu, I don't remember what specific problems you are having, but if upgrading to 3.1 doesn't help, then you should ask for more help from this list. I'm not familiar with Nikon software, so I can't help. Another option is to buy VueScan for $40US. If you have any problems figuring out how to make VueScan work, just about everyone on this list is an expert with it and would be willing help. Don't give up! Most of the people on this list are really very nice and extremely helpful. In a message dated 7/6/2001 3:29:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Claudiu Falub wrote: Many thanks to all who answered to my request. It seems this is one very effective list. I downloaded the software and hope to solve my nightmare. I really don't understand why a famous company (read Nikon) can produce such a garbage (Nikonscan 3.0) ... Claudiu, Perhaps you should read your instructions and learn how to use your software before you start badmouthing Nikonscan software. I use it quite successfully (I use the latest version 3.1). So do many others on the usergroup. Actually I have tried Vuescan and Silverfast and like the Nikonscan software better. I have no problems. Again I suggest you learn how to use the software before you slander the entire company. More than likely you're problems are with your computer or your lack of knowhow. I do not think my software is "garbage". I don't like you calling it garbage either. Nothing I can do about that though. If you live within 100 miles of Greensboro, NC I would be willing to drive to your home or office and try to help you solve your problems. Ray Amos
