RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-09-24 Thread James Grove

Same access just don't use IE or Passive mode for transfers

-- 
James Grove
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www.jamesgrove.co.uk
www.mountain-photos.co.uk
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pete Cutter
Sent: 24 September 2001 20:29
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0


James,

is this still on your ftp site?

I have two goes at downloading 3.1 from the Nikon site but it keeps
bombing out. i would be *very* grateful if you could give me temp access
to download it from your site instead?

best regards
Pete Cutter


- Original Message -
From: "James Grove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'Claudiu Falub'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:56 AM
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0


> You can grab it from me by ftp at
>
> 62.31.210.174 username nikon password nikon
>
>
> James Grove
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.jamesgrove.co.uk
> http://www.mountain-photos.co.uk
> ICQ 99737573
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Claudiu Falub
> Sent: 06 July 2001 09:29
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
>
>
> Hi!
>
> I've recently purchased a Nikon LS IV scanner. It was delivered with 
> Nikonscan 3.0. While the scanner is ok, I don't like the software, 
> since it crashes all the time and I have to restart my computer and I 
> hate that. I heard the new version 3.1 is better. How can I get it? 
> The salesman told me that new version could be downloaded from 
> internet, but he couldn't give more details. If so, where and how 
> could I get this program? My system is a Pentium III, 1 GHz, 512 Mb 
> SDRAM, Matrox G450 32 Mb.
>
> Thanks a lot in advance,
> Claudiu
>
>





Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-09-24 Thread Pete Cutter

James,

is this still on your ftp site?

I have two goes at downloading 3.1 from the Nikon site but it keeps bombing
out. i would be *very* grateful if you could give me temp access to download
it from your site instead?

best regards
Pete Cutter


- Original Message -
From: "James Grove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'Claudiu Falub'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:56 AM
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0


> You can grab it from me by ftp at
>
> 62.31.210.174 username nikon password nikon
>
>
> James Grove
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.jamesgrove.co.uk
> http://www.mountain-photos.co.uk
> ICQ 99737573
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Claudiu Falub
> Sent: 06 July 2001 09:29
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
>
>
> Hi!
>
> I've recently purchased a Nikon LS IV scanner. It was delivered with
> Nikonscan 3.0. While the scanner is ok, I don't like the software, since
> it crashes all the time and I have to restart my computer and I hate
> that. I heard the new version 3.1 is better. How can I get it? The
> salesman told me that new version could be downloaded from internet, but
> he couldn't give more details. If so, where and how could I get this
> program? My system is a Pentium III, 1 GHz, 512 Mb SDRAM, Matrox G450 32
> Mb.
>
> Thanks a lot in advance,
> Claudiu
>
>




Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-10 Thread Dave King

Or they all are.  Those of us who make a living from photography take
the lists seriously.  I've learned most of what I know about digital
photography from lists such as this, and like Rafe, want to see on
topic and relevant discussion.

Dave

- Original Message -
From: Arthur Entlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0


>
>
> Dave King wrote:
> >
> > Rafe, you are right on the money.
> >
> > Dave
>
>
> Luckily, most lists aren't much about money. ;-)
>
> Art
>
>
>




Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-10 Thread Arthur Entlich



Dave King wrote:
> 
> Rafe, you are right on the money.
> 
> Dave


Luckily, most lists aren't much about money. ;-)

Art





Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-10 Thread Arthur Entlich



Raphael Bustin wrote:

> A discussion on technical merits is
> what I expect. Recitations of unfounded,
> inflammatory opinions, alleged regional
> allegiances, pop-psychology and broad
> generalizations serve no useful purpose.
> 
> rafe b.


Respectfully, IY(perhaps H)O.

Art




Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-09 Thread Dave King

Rafe, you are right on the money.

Dave

- Original Message -
From: Raphael Bustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0


>
>
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Lynn Allen wrote:
>
> > Is the criticism valid? Yeah, it is. And it's fixable, too. Have I
seen
> > anybody trying to do so, lately? Nuh-uh. AFAIC, the mfgrs are just
cutting
> > to deep to be competitive--they're cutting the product, cutting
the user,
> > and ultimately cutting themselves, IMHO.
>
>
> With all due respect, Lynn -- your comments,
> while valid (as usual) are beside the point.
>
> I could, if I chose to, indulge in all sorts
> of brand-bashing.  I've tried to stay on good
> behavior and avoid that.  It serves no purpose.
>
> Whatever my issues may be with Nikon --
> and I've been very blunt about them --
> I've learned nothing on this list that
> will help me deal with those issues.
>
> Where I've discovered problems with my
> Nikon, and subsequent workarounds, I've
> shared this knowledge with the list.
>
> A discussion on technical merits is
> what I expect. Recitations of unfounded,
> inflammatory opinions, alleged regional
> allegiances, pop-psychology and broad
> generalizations serve no useful purpose.
>
>
> rafe b.
>




Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-09 Thread Raphael Bustin



On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Lynn Allen wrote:

> Is the criticism valid? Yeah, it is. And it's fixable, too. Have I seen 
> anybody trying to do so, lately? Nuh-uh. AFAIC, the mfgrs are just cutting 
> to deep to be competitive--they're cutting the product, cutting the user, 
> and ultimately cutting themselves, IMHO.


With all due respect, Lynn -- your comments, 
while valid (as usual) are beside the point.

I could, if I chose to, indulge in all sorts 
of brand-bashing.  I've tried to stay on good 
behavior and avoid that.  It serves no purpose.

Whatever my issues may be with Nikon -- 
and I've been very blunt about them -- 
I've learned nothing on this list that 
will help me deal with those issues.

Where I've discovered problems with my 
Nikon, and subsequent workarounds, I've 
shared this knowledge with the list.

A discussion on technical merits is 
what I expect. Recitations of unfounded, 
inflammatory opinions, alleged regional 
allegiances, pop-psychology and broad 
generalizations serve no useful purpose.


rafe b.




Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-09 Thread Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)

At 20:23 09-07-01 +, Lynn Allen wrote:
>The main point is that regardless of how *monolithic* sofware companies 
>believe themselves to be (Microsoft and Adobe come to mind), and how 
>*infallable* some engineers occasionally consider themselves to be (no 
>present company included or excluded), the fact remains that it's you and 
>I who are "down here in the trenches," working with these machines and 
>this software. I'm happy to say that at least a few members on this list 
>are one or both of the above, and *do* pay attention. But the vast 
>majority are more concerned with their blocks of code and their 
>stock-sharing contracts than they are with the users.

>I remain an Equal Oportunity Cynic, like Art. I should probably make more 
>noise when I see a good program (like Vuescan), or good hardware (like 
>Dell). But as far as I see it, we users are largely oversupplied, 
>oversold, and underserved by the industry. The Industry *does* in fact 
>need a good, swift, kick in the butt. :-)


Of course it does but the US-DOJ apparently wasn't up to the job. That 
leaves us consumers.

Sidebar// nobody can truly detest and disrespect Microsoft as much as 
someone who was on the inside for six years as I was [former Senior 
Technical Writer--Windows NT Server Resource Kit 91-97]. I was at enough 
company meetings to know how they really think and it's not pretty.

http://www.enochsvision.com/bluescreen/bluescreen.html
http://www.enochsvision.com/bluescreen/BlueScreen.PDF
(not linked from intro page)

Cary Enoch Reinstein aka Enoch's Vision, Inc., Peach County, Georgia
http://www.enochsvision.com/, http://www.bahaivision.com/ -- "Behind all 
these manifestations is the one radiance, which shines through all things. 
The function of art is to reveal this radiance through the created object." 
~Joseph Campbell




Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-09 Thread Herm

good documentation cost money, and its not a "sexy" feature..ie. it will not
sell more scanners. So that's why you see poor documentation..

Lets be honest here ok?

"Lynn Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:

>Poor documentation is at least 1/2 the problem in these complaints--I'd 
>direct anyone interested to the Letters Page of PC World (Aug 2001). The 
>other half can probably be found in Scott Adams' "Dilbert" cartoons 
>(available in soft-cover, if your newspaper doesn't carry it).
>
>Is the criticism valid? Yeah, it is. And it's fixable, too. Have I seen 
>anybody trying to do so, lately? Nuh-uh. AFAIC, the mfgrs are just cutting 
>to deep to be competitive--they're cutting the product, cutting the user, 
>and ultimately cutting themselves, IMHO.
>
>Best regards--LRA

Herm
Astropics http://home.att.net/~hermperez



Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-09 Thread Lynn Allen

Rafe wrote:

>By singling out Nikon as a company writing lousy scanner
software, others might presume that Canon, Minolta,
Polaroid, Acer, HP, Leaf, Kodak or Brand Z must be doing
a better job in that department.

Poor documentation is at least 1/2 the problem in these complaints--I'd 
direct anyone interested to the Letters Page of PC World (Aug 2001). The 
other half can probably be found in Scott Adams' "Dilbert" cartoons 
(available in soft-cover, if your newspaper doesn't carry it).

Is the criticism valid? Yeah, it is. And it's fixable, too. Have I seen 
anybody trying to do so, lately? Nuh-uh. AFAIC, the mfgrs are just cutting 
to deep to be competitive--they're cutting the product, cutting the user, 
and ultimately cutting themselves, IMHO.

Best regards--LRA
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Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-09 Thread Lynn Allen

I have to, and will, agree with Art on this one--even though it's fun to 
argue with him, occasionally. ;-)

The main point is that regardless of how *monolithic* sofware companies 
believe themselves to be (Microsoft and Adobe come to mind), and how 
*infallable* some engineers occasionally consider themselves to be (no 
present company included or excluded), the fact remains that it's you and I 
who are "down here in the trenches," working with these machines and this 
software. I'm happy to say that at least a few members on this list are one 
or both of the above, and *do* pay attention. But the vast majority are more 
concerned with their blocks of code and their stock-sharing contracts than 
they are with the users.

Does anyone have any doubts about *why* the tech markets have dropped so 
significantly in the last year? I've bitched about this since I got my first 
computer--"OK, I've learned how to use it--now when are you guys gonna make 
it *useable* for me?" Computing's come a long way since I first started 
bitching, but it ain't there yet. :-(

I remain an Equal Oportunity Cynic, like Art. I should probably make more 
noise when I see a good program (like Vuescan), or good hardware (like 
Dell). But as far as I see it, we users are largely oversupplied, oversold, 
and underserved by the industry. The Industry *does* in fact need a good, 
swift, kick in the butt. :-)

Best regards from the Rust Belt--LRA


>From: Arthur Entlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
>Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 02:46:40 -0700
>
>rafeb wrote:
> >
> > At 06:11 AM 7/7/01 -0700, Art Entlich wrote:
> >
> > >You know, some people have had problems with Nikon software... a LOT of
> > >problems.
> >
> > And quite a few have complained about Polaroid's
> > scanner software as well.
> >
> > >Not having their scanner or need for their software...
> >
> > So why add fuel to the fire, Art?
> >
> > rafe b.
>
>
>This is a silly comment, Rafe.  I stated a fact.  If you actually
>followed this thread you would know that it evolved from Claudiu's
>frustration with the versions of Nikonscan for a variety of reasons.
>
>Ray Amos chimed in with a rather aggressive comment defending "his
>software" (Nikonscan) and how Claudiu was somehow lacking in being
>critical of the software, and so Ray offered to "set him straight" about
>it.
>
>My comment, based upon fact, was that Nikon's scanner software has had a
>history of many problems, and that these same problems extended to
>several Nikon peripherals their scanners work with.
>
>I am continually amazed how defensive some Nikon owners have been and
>continue to be about criticism of Nikon products.  I think this is
>called "compensation" in my text books.  Sort of like people who buy hot
>sports cars and think women will assume certain of their body parts are
>bigger than they really are, as a result. ;-)
>
>What any of this has to do with Polaroid is beyond me.  Not I, nor
>anyone else in this particular thread has mentioned anything about
>Polaroid, nor was I comparing Nikon's scanner software with any other
>brand.  I simply was stating that Claudiu's perception was not at all
>uncommon amongst people who have used Nikon scanner software and are
>willing to comment about it honestly.
>
>Art
>
>PS: I'm an equal opportunity cynic BTW, I think the whole industry needs
>a kick in the butt when it comes to scanner software they include with
>their products.  And that fire needs all the fuel added to it that can
>be provided.
>
>

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Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-09 Thread rafeb

At 02:46 AM 7/9/01 -0700, Art Entlich wrote:



>My comment, based upon fact, was that Nikon's scanner software has had a
>history of many problems, and that these same problems extended to
>several Nikon peripherals their scanners work with.

Oh, poop, Art.  Go to the PhotographyReview web site and 
look at how people complain about scanner software -- both 
Nikon and Polaroid owners.  I'd be hard pressed to tell 
which ones are more upset with their scanner software.

In their defense, Polaroid has had the good sense to bundle 
a decent 3rd-party package with their latest scanners.  And 
in their defense, Nikon seems to have finally done a good 
thing with NS 3.1, which by most accounts is a solid step 
forward.


>I am continually amazed how defensive some Nikon owners have been and
>continue to be about criticism of Nikon products.  I think this is
>called "compensation" in my text books.  Sort of like people who buy hot
>sports cars and think women will assume certain of their body parts are
>bigger than they really are, as a result. ;-)


Spare us the pop-psychology, please Art.  The point was 
that you don't even *own* a Nikon scanner, by your own 
admission, but are quick to take sides in an argument 
involving Nikon scanner sotware.  Why not just take 
a breather on this topic?  Give it a rest.

I wasn't defending Nikon software.  I was criticizing 
you for offering an opinion on a controversial topic, 
where your opinion has no basis in direct experience.

>What any of this has to do with Polaroid is beyond me.

By singling out Nikon as a company writing lousy scanner 
software, others might presume that Canon, Minolta, 
Polaroid, Acer, HP, Leaf, Kodak or Brand Z must be doing 
a better job in that department.


rafe b.





Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-09 Thread Arthur Entlich

rafeb wrote:
> 
> At 06:11 AM 7/7/01 -0700, Art Entlich wrote:
> 
> >You know, some people have had problems with Nikon software... a LOT of
> >problems.
> 
> And quite a few have complained about Polaroid's
> scanner software as well.
> 
> >Not having their scanner or need for their software...
> 
> So why add fuel to the fire, Art?
> 
> rafe b.


This is a silly comment, Rafe.  I stated a fact.  If you actually
followed this thread you would know that it evolved from Claudiu's
frustration with the versions of Nikonscan for a variety of reasons.

Ray Amos chimed in with a rather aggressive comment defending "his
software" (Nikonscan) and how Claudiu was somehow lacking in being
critical of the software, and so Ray offered to "set him straight" about
it.

My comment, based upon fact, was that Nikon's scanner software has had a
history of many problems, and that these same problems extended to
several Nikon peripherals their scanners work with.

I am continually amazed how defensive some Nikon owners have been and
continue to be about criticism of Nikon products.  I think this is
called "compensation" in my text books.  Sort of like people who buy hot
sports cars and think women will assume certain of their body parts are
bigger than they really are, as a result. ;-)

What any of this has to do with Polaroid is beyond me.  Not I, nor
anyone else in this particular thread has mentioned anything about
Polaroid, nor was I comparing Nikon's scanner software with any other
brand.  I simply was stating that Claudiu's perception was not at all
uncommon amongst people who have used Nikon scanner software and are
willing to comment about it honestly.

Art

PS: I'm an equal opportunity cynic BTW, I think the whole industry needs
a kick in the butt when it comes to scanner software they include with
their products.  And that fire needs all the fuel added to it that can
be provided.





RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-08 Thread Mikael Risedal

The fuzz was a inferior Polaroid Insight software during at least 2 
years.!

Yes David ! Nikon have done the same mistakes as Polaroid did when they 
released the  first Insight version. Pre released and  poor in all respects. 
In other words - It took Polaroid
more than 2 years to produce as you say a good Insight version.
And it took Polaroid at least 1.5 year to understand the mistake and budle 
SS4000 with Silverfast.  In my case it was to late- I had allready return 
the scanner to Polaroid.
I think you (David) remember all the e-mail discussion we had 2 years back.( 
Anders Lindquist Polaroid Sweden, you and me )
The only thing  now is to hope  that Nikon also bundle LS4000  with 
Silverfast I have the new Silverfast version to LS 4000 and its works as 
a dream compare to NikonScan 3.1. and Polaroid Insight.
Ps. my old Polaroid 35+ works also like a dream with 2.7.1 plugin and 
contrasty negative scannings.

Mikael Risedal





>From: "Hemingway, David J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
>Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 15:41:19 -0400
>
>I will say that some folks have not liked PolaColor Insight but hardly a
>week goes by without someone emailing me to say they don't know what all 
>the
>fuss is about because Insight works great for them.
>I am unaware of anyone who has complained about the PolaColor
>Insight/Silverfast bundle we have been shipping for some time and with the
>addition of Binuscan for the Sprintscan 120 the software bundle is even 
>more
>robust. Several customers have told me the software bundle was the deciding
>factor in purchasing the Polaroid product.
>David
>
>  -Original Message-
>From:  rafeb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent:  Sunday, July 08, 2001 7:59 AM
>To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject:   Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
>
>At 06:11 AM 7/7/01 -0700, Art Entlich wrote:
>
>
> >You know, some people have had problems with Nikon software... a LOT of
> >problems.
>
>And quite a few have complained about Polaroid's
>scanner software as well.
>
> >Not having their scanner or need for their software...
>
>So why add fuel to the fire, Art?
>
>
>rafe b.
>

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RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-08 Thread Hemingway, David J

I will say that some folks have not liked PolaColor Insight but hardly a
week goes by without someone emailing me to say they don't know what all the
fuss is about because Insight works great for them.
I am unaware of anyone who has complained about the PolaColor
Insight/Silverfast bundle we have been shipping for some time and with the
addition of Binuscan for the Sprintscan 120 the software bundle is even more
robust. Several customers have told me the software bundle was the deciding
factor in purchasing the Polaroid product.
David

 -Original Message-
From:   rafeb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Sunday, July 08, 2001 7:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:    Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

At 06:11 AM 7/7/01 -0700, Art Entlich wrote:


>You know, some people have had problems with Nikon software... a LOT of
>problems.

And quite a few have complained about Polaroid's 
scanner software as well.

>Not having their scanner or need for their software...

So why add fuel to the fire, Art?


rafe b.




Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-08 Thread rafeb

At 06:11 AM 7/7/01 -0700, Art Entlich wrote:


>You know, some people have had problems with Nikon software... a LOT of
>problems.

And quite a few have complained about Polaroid's 
scanner software as well.

>Not having their scanner or need for their software...

So why add fuel to the fire, Art?


rafe b.





Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-08 Thread Arthur Entlich



Ray Amos wrote:
> 
> Claudiu Falub wrote:
> >
> > Many thanks to all who answered to my request. It seems this is one very
> > effective list. I downloaded the software and hope to solve my nightmare. I
> > really don't understand why a famous company (read Nikon) can produce such a
> > garbage (Nikonscan 3.0) ...
> 
> Claudiu,
> 
> Perhaps you should read your instructions and learn how to use your
> software before you start badmouthing Nikonscan software.  I use it
> quite successfully (I use the latest version 3.1).  So do many others on
> the usergroup.  Actually I have tried Vuescan and Silverfast and like
> the Nikonscan software better.  I have no problems.  Again I suggest you
> learn how to use the software before you slander the entire company.
> More than likely you're problems are with your computer or your lack of
> knowhow.  I do not think my software is "garbage".  I don't like you
> calling it garbage either.  Nothing I can do about that though.  



If you
> live within 100 miles of Greensboro, NC I would be willing to drive to
> your home or office and try to help you solve your problems.

Is that a threat?  Jeez

You know, some people have had problems with Nikon software... a LOT of
problems.

Not having their scanner or need for their software, I'm only responding
based upon hundreds of postings about problems with different versions
of Nikon driver software for their scanners, their filmstrip adapters,
their bulk slide feeder, etc. etc. that I've read of.

Actually, between the two of you, I'd say statistically Claudiu's
comments more accurately represents the sentiment of more Nikon scanner
users regarding their software.

Of course, I'm lucky I can say this, being that I live far away from NC,
and you probably won't send anyone to break my kneecaps.

Art






Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-06 Thread RogerMillerPhoto
Claudiu is obviously frustrated with his software, and I can understand how 
that can happen.  I'm sure that just about everyone on this list knows that 
scanner software is notorious for being poorly documented, or buggy, or 
substandard in some way.  Most people who buy a film scanner are doing so for 
the first time, so every thing is new to them.  And filmscanning is not a 
large consumer market, it's very competitive, and the manufacturers seem to 
be short changing us on the quality of the software and its documentation in 
order to stay competitive and make money.  And when you add in all of the 
other frustrations of scanner hardware you can't get repaired, companies that 
don't answer e-mail (or even have an e-mail address), companies who don't 
have an '800' phone line for support, software that's not compatible with 
certain operating systems (or at least not compatible with YOUR particular 
operating system), then I can understand how one might feel that the company 
that has caused you all of your pain, anguish, and nightmares is producing 
'garbage.'  (That doesn't make a person a slanderer, by the way.)  I'd hate 
to tell you how many scanner executives I've dreamed about drowning in a warm 
bucket of nose drippings.  (That doesn't make me a murderer, by the way.)  
I've managed to solve most of my problems and frustrations, in a small part 
due to what I've read on this list.

Claudiu, I don't remember what specific problems you are having, but if 
upgrading to 3.1 doesn't help, then you should ask for more help from this 
list.  I'm not familiar with Nikon software, so I can't help.  Another option 
is to buy VueScan for $40US.  If you have any problems figuring out how to 
make VueScan work, just about everyone on this list is an expert with it and 
would be willing help.  Don't give up!  Most of the people on this list are 
really very nice and extremely helpful.

In a message dated 7/6/2001 3:29:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Claudiu Falub wrote:
> 
> Many thanks to all who answered to my request. It seems this is one very
> effective list. I downloaded the software and hope to solve my nightmare. 
I
> really don't understand why a famous company (read Nikon) can produce 
such a
> garbage (Nikonscan 3.0) ...


Claudiu,

Perhaps you should read your instructions and learn how to use your
software before you start badmouthing Nikonscan software.  I use it
quite successfully (I use the latest version 3.1).  So do many others on
the usergroup.  Actually I have tried Vuescan and Silverfast and like
the Nikonscan software better.  I have no problems.  Again I suggest you
learn how to use the software before you slander the entire company. 
More than likely you're problems are with your computer or your lack of
knowhow.  I do not think my software is "garbage".  I don't like you
calling it garbage either.  Nothing I can do about that though.  If you
live within 100 miles of Greensboro, NC I would be willing to drive to
your home or office and try to help you solve your problems.

Ray Amos





RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-06 Thread Jawed Ashraf

I was worried, when I bought my LS40, that NS 3.0 would drive me crazy on my
Win98 PC (note, not Win98SE which is recommended - ordinary 98 isn't).  It
crashed, twice, in 3 days of heavy usage.  I was pleased that it was nowhere
near as bad as reports led me to expect.

Upgrading to 3.1, it hasn't crashed at all in 2 weeks of intensive scanning
(2-7 hours per day).

The user interface of NS is really fantastic.  Photoshop could learn a thing
or two (i.e the combined Levels/Curves/Histogram palettes).

There are peeps with NS 2.5 who prefer it, it seems.  I think there's a
degree of luck involved here.  3.1 is much more popular than 3.0.  I guess I
was lucky to buy the scanner a few days after 3.1 became available for
download...

Unfortunately, NS is incapable of treating "difficult" negs with the respect
that they deserve.  It is rather slap-happy with its exposure, causing sky
to blow out if the sky is only a small portion of the image (despite the
fact that the sky is entirely within the dynamic range of the neg).  If NS
was a camera, most people would reject the camera's auto-exposures as
unusable, in my view.  NS applies a too-low gamma to the images it produces
and it over-saturates most colour and makes people look like they've been
grilled for a minute or too (their skin is too pink).  (All of these
comments apply to negs - slides seem pretty spectacular!)

For negs, Vuescan seems entirely neutral in terms of exposure (leaving you
to make the choice as to whether you want highlights or shadows to
compress - if at all) but it also seems to be a little under-saturated (Fuji
Super G, Kodak Supra 400/800) and imparts subtle hue shifts that make me
think "Vuescan".  Vuescan is certainly the better software of the two, in
terms of the final image.  I just wish the user interface of Vuescan made
more effort at being "what you see is what you get".  e.g. setting offsets
is pure hit and miss which is a complete fallacy when we have the power of a
*graphical* user interface at our disposal.

Still, it was worth $40 to get a much more convincing idea of how my negs
should look when scanned.  I have a new, fairly radical, approach to
scanning that I want to describe, but I need to spend some time constructing
that description and some supporting files...

Jawed

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ray Amos
> Sent: 06 July 2001 23:24
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
>
>
> Claudiu Falub wrote:
> >
> > Many thanks to all who answered to my request. It seems this is one very
> > effective list. I downloaded the software and hope to solve my
> nightmare. I
> > really don't understand why a famous company (read Nikon) can
> produce such a
> > garbage (Nikonscan 3.0) ...
>
>
> Claudiu,
>
> Perhaps you should read your instructions and learn how to use your
> software before you start badmouthing Nikonscan software.  I use it
> quite successfully (I use the latest version 3.1).  So do many others on
> the usergroup.  Actually I have tried Vuescan and Silverfast and like
> the Nikonscan software better.  I have no problems.  Again I suggest you
> learn how to use the software before you slander the entire company.
> More than likely you're problems are with your computer or your lack of
> knowhow.  I do not think my software is "garbage".  I don't like you
> calling it garbage either.  Nothing I can do about that though.  If you
> live within 100 miles of Greensboro, NC I would be willing to drive to
> your home or office and try to help you solve your problems.
>
> Ray Amos
>




RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-06 Thread Ramesh Kumar_C

Ray Amos wrote:
>>
>>knowhow.  I do not think my software is "garbage".  I don't like you
>>


The above sentence suggests that you are associated with Nikonscan software.
It's nice to have somebody to take feedback from the actual users of the
software.


Bye
Ramesh

-Original Message-
From: Ray Amos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 3:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0


Claudiu Falub wrote:
> 
> Many thanks to all who answered to my request. It seems this is one very
> effective list. I downloaded the software and hope to solve my nightmare.
I
> really don't understand why a famous company (read Nikon) can produce such
a
> garbage (Nikonscan 3.0) ...


Claudiu,

Perhaps you should read your instructions and learn how to use your
software before you start badmouthing Nikonscan software.  I use it
quite successfully (I use the latest version 3.1).  So do many others on
the usergroup.  Actually I have tried Vuescan and Silverfast and like
the Nikonscan software better.  I have no problems.  Again I suggest you
learn how to use the software before you slander the entire company. 
More than likely you're problems are with your computer or your lack of
knowhow.  I do not think my software is "garbage".  I don't like you
calling it garbage either.  Nothing I can do about that though.  If you
live within 100 miles of Greensboro, NC I would be willing to drive to
your home or office and try to help you solve your problems.

Ray Amos



Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-06 Thread Ray Amos

Lawrence Smith wrote:
> 
> Ray,
> 
> "my software" ??!!  did you write it for Nikon?  If not, I hardly think it's
> your software ;-)  If you did then i have a few suggestions for you!  I DO
> live within a 100 miles of greensboro and i'd love to have you come over and
> have a beer and i'll tell you how I think it could be improved
> 
> Lawrence
> 
> >I do not think my software is "garbage".  I don't like you
> > calling it garbage either.

Lawrence,

I can show you the receipt where I paid for the scanner, which included
the software.  That's like saying that your dishes are not yours because
you did not make them.  Or your vacuum cleaner is not yours because you
did not make it.

'Nuf said by me.  No more word games.  I'll not respond to any public
replies.  If you want to e-mail me personally, fine.

Ray Amos



RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-06 Thread Lawrence Smith

Ray,


"my software" ??!!  did you write it for Nikon?  If not, I hardly think it's
your software ;-)  If you did then i have a few suggestions for you!  I DO
live within a 100 miles of greensboro and i'd love to have you come over and
have a beer and i'll tell you how I think it could be improved


Lawrence

>I do not think my software is "garbage".  I don't like you
> calling it garbage either.




Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-06 Thread Ray Amos

Claudiu Falub wrote:
> 
> Many thanks to all who answered to my request. It seems this is one very
> effective list. I downloaded the software and hope to solve my nightmare. I
> really don't understand why a famous company (read Nikon) can produce such a
> garbage (Nikonscan 3.0) ...


Claudiu,

Perhaps you should read your instructions and learn how to use your
software before you start badmouthing Nikonscan software.  I use it
quite successfully (I use the latest version 3.1).  So do many others on
the usergroup.  Actually I have tried Vuescan and Silverfast and like
the Nikonscan software better.  I have no problems.  Again I suggest you
learn how to use the software before you slander the entire company. 
More than likely you're problems are with your computer or your lack of
knowhow.  I do not think my software is "garbage".  I don't like you
calling it garbage either.  Nothing I can do about that though.  If you
live within 100 miles of Greensboro, NC I would be willing to drive to
your home or office and try to help you solve your problems.

Ray Amos



Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-06 Thread Raphael Bustin



On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Claudiu Falub wrote:

> Many thanks to all who answered to my request. It seems this is one very
> effective list. I downloaded the software and hope to solve my nightmare. I
> really don't understand why a famous company (read Nikon) can produce such a
> garbage (Nikonscan 3.0) ...


Not to defend Nikon, but they're not the 
only "famous" company shipping lousy software.

FWIW, I am fairly content with NikonScan 3.1.
I have yet to find a "perfect" scanner driver.


rafe b.




Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-06 Thread Claudiu Falub

Many thanks to all who answered to my request. It seems this is one very
effective list. I downloaded the software and hope to solve my nightmare. I
really don't understand why a famous company (read Nikon) can produce such a
garbage (Nikonscan 3.0) ...

Cladiu Falub

James Grove wrote:

> You can grab it from me by ftp at




Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-06 Thread rafeb

At 10:29 AM 7/6/01 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi!
>
>I've recently purchased a Nikon LS IV scanner. It was delivered with
>Nikonscan 3.0. While the scanner is ok, I don't like the software, since it
>crashes all the time and I have to restart my computer and I hate that. I
>heard the new version 3.1 is better. How can I get it? The salesman told me
>that new version could be downloaded from internet, but he couldn't give more
>details. If so, where and how could I get this program?
>My system is a Pentium III, 1 GHz, 512 Mb SDRAM, Matrox G450 32 Mb.
>
>Thanks a lot in advance,
>Claudiu


Try: 

http://www.nikontechusa.com

or

http://www.nikon-euro.com/


I've had mostly good luck with NikonScan 3.1, though there 
were problems with the installation.

Specifically -- there were conflicts with some existing 
peripherals that caused NikonScan to run very slowly.  But 
no crashes, ever -- then or now.

Be on the lookout for conflicts with existing SCSI and/or 
USB devices.  Also, potential conflicts with Wacom pen pads.

I don't know if the LS IV is Firewire or not, but if it is, 
there are a couple of additional gotchas:  you need to be 
running Win98 2nd Edition or later, and you need to apply 
an OS patch to make Firewire behave, if it is Win98 SE.  
The patch was supplied on my NikonScan CD, or you can download 
it from Microsoft's website -- 

www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads

and search for "242975USA8.EXE" or maybe "IEEE 1394"


Like I said -- it was a messy installation, but now that 
the dust has settled, I like this program a lot.


rafe b.





Re: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-06 Thread Mikael Risedal

NikonScan 3.1
http://www.nikon-euro.com/nikoneuro2/download/download_11.htm
Mikael Risedal

>From: Claudiu Falub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0
>Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 10:29:01 +0200
>
>Hi!
>
>I've recently purchased a Nikon LS IV scanner. It was delivered with
>Nikonscan 3.0. While the scanner is ok, I don't like the software, since it
>crashes all the time and I have to restart my computer and I hate that. I
>heard the new version 3.1 is better. How can I get it? The salesman told me
>that new version could be downloaded from internet, but he couldn't give 
>more
>details. If so, where and how could I get this program?
>My system is a Pentium III, 1 GHz, 512 Mb SDRAM, Matrox G450 32 Mb.
>
>Thanks a lot in advance,
>Claudiu
>
>

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filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-06 Thread Claudiu Falub

Hi!

I've recently purchased a Nikon LS IV scanner. It was delivered with
Nikonscan 3.0. While the scanner is ok, I don't like the software, since it
crashes all the time and I have to restart my computer and I hate that. I
heard the new version 3.1 is better. How can I get it? The salesman told me
that new version could be downloaded from internet, but he couldn't give more
details. If so, where and how could I get this program?
My system is a Pentium III, 1 GHz, 512 Mb SDRAM, Matrox G450 32 Mb.

Thanks a lot in advance,
Claudiu





RE: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0

2001-07-06 Thread James Grove

You can grab it from me by ftp at

62.31.210.174 username nikon password nikon


James Grove
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.jamesgrove.co.uk
http://www.mountain-photos.co.uk
ICQ 99737573 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Claudiu Falub
Sent: 06 July 2001 09:29
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: filmscanners: Nikon LS IV/Nikoscan 3.0


Hi!

I've recently purchased a Nikon LS IV scanner. It was delivered with
Nikonscan 3.0. While the scanner is ok, I don't like the software, since
it crashes all the time and I have to restart my computer and I hate
that. I heard the new version 3.1 is better. How can I get it? The
salesman told me that new version could be downloaded from internet, but
he couldn't give more details. If so, where and how could I get this
program? My system is a Pentium III, 1 GHz, 512 Mb SDRAM, Matrox G450 32
Mb.

Thanks a lot in advance,
Claudiu