Re: [Finale] The Joys of Custom Lines
Robert Patterson wrote: >I'm hoping someone else on this list uses custom lines, and will >help me disabuse our friends at Coda of the notion that I'm the only >one who cares whether custom line text remains visible irrespective >of spacing (at least optionally). > >And if you haven't discovered the CLT, you have a whole new chapter >ahead of you. Quite a while ago I discovered that using the CLT for trills is a major time saver. I have a client that uses the tr symbol with the wavy line and is very fastidious about indicating sharp, flat, or natural during appropriate circumstances. It use to take 3 elements to accomplish this. Now, its only one and is very fast to enter. *** J.D. Thomas ThomaStudios West Linn OR http://www.thomastudios.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Shin: a device for finding furniture in the dark. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] The Joys of Custom Lines
Robert Patterson writes: (Snip) I'm hoping someone else on this list uses custom lines, and will help me disabuse our friends at Coda of the notion that I'm the only one who cares whether custom line text remains visible irrespective of spacing (at least optionally). And if you haven't discovered the CLT, you have a whole new chapter ahead of you. Robert, I have used the CLT in a number of ways, most importantly for rit., rall., cresc., dim., etc where I want widely-spaced dashes while still having closely-spaced dashes for 8va (an embarrassing giveaway for many Finale-produced scores are the closely-spaced dashes some people use after these words). I have used the CLT occasionally to give the date and place of composition rotated 90 degrees after the final bar. It's so very useful for pedal markings using lines, +o for stopped horn, l.v.-- and much more. Yes, something should be done about the problem of losing the middle item in close spacing. Hal -- Harold Owen 2830 Emerald St., Eugene, OR 97403 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my web site at: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~hjowen FAX: (509) 461-3608 ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] The Joys of Custom Lines
Robert Patterson Finale wrote: [snip] I'm hoping someone else on this list uses custom lines, and will help me disabuse our friends at Coda of the notion that I'm the only one who cares whether custom line text remains visible irrespective of spacing (at least optionally). I never thought of using the CLT for fermatas over tremolos, but that is a really good idea! I love the CLT and use it for a variety of glissandos. 1) It isn't that hard to make up a gliss. line that looks a bit like a railway track (single, not double!) for glissandos with a tremolo bowing. Whether this notation is kosher is another question, but I did have a prof. who used this notation all the time back in the ink and onion paper days. (It looks a bit like this: ++, with no spaces between characters.) 2) I also use an arrow with a "join" written on top of it to indicate 2 staves coming together. You can angle it any way you like. 3) I also use the CLT for a very thick line with an arrow on the right side to show the continuation of a "mobile" or repeating cell. The beauty of the CLT is that it handles line breaks very well with a new arrow showing up on each line. It used to be hard to transfer custom lines from document to document, but Robert Patterson's Mass Copy and Settings Scrapbook plugins have solved those problems. Legibility is still a concern in extracted parts, but I just see that as one more thing you have to check. -Randolph Peters ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] The Joys of Custom Lines
I use the Custom Line Tool every time I need a word placed at any angle. It does this beautifully, and there are no lines involved. Also, I use it every time I need to write the name of a Tuplet which is for example a ratio or some other string of characters which don't fit the standard scheme for tuplets. Liudas - Original Message - From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 6:32 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] The Joys of Custom Lines > Robert Patterson Finale wrote: > > >I sometimes have the impression that the Custom Line tool may be one of the most underused really powerful things in Finale. In an offline conversation with a Coda person, I complained that a major drawback of the CLT is that text (i.e., Left, Center Full, or Right) that is visible in a score could vanish in an extracted part with narrower spacing. I said this was a major flaw that needs to be fixed, at least as an option. His response was that "no one had ever asked for this since it came out in Finale 2000, so it couldn't be too big a problem." > > > I have begun makeing somewhat more use of custom lines (a subset of the > smart shape subsystem). For example, working with a score where I > wanted to line up the dynamics, I used the smart shape tool to create a > "guideline", to line up all the dynamic indications at the desired point > below the scale, deleting the guidline afterwards. > > The knowledge that it is there, and better understanding of how it works > leads to all sorts of possibilities > > ns > > ___ > Finale mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] The Joys of Custom Lines
At 2:04 AM + 9/27/03, Robert Patterson Finale wrote: I'm hoping someone else on this list uses custom lines, and will help me disabuse our friends at Coda of the notion that I'm the only one who cares whether custom line text remains visible irrespective of spacing (at least optionally). And if you haven't discovered the CLT, you have a whole new chapter ahead of you. I agree with you about the Custom Line Tool, that it is more powerful than it appears, and I use it for all kinds of things as well. But I wouldn't want to lose the option of having text disappear when the line gets too short, as this is desirable for glisses. Maybe a check box (urg, not another one!) in the edit line window? I also wish there was room for more than three text placements. Three (left, centre, and right) gives you a splendid "cre---scen---do" that stretches very nicely, but you DON'T get "Ri---tar---dan---do" nor rallentando because that would require four text placements instead of three. D'oh! ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] The Joys of Custom Lines
Robert Patterson Finale wrote: I sometimes have the impression that the Custom Line tool may be one of the most underused really powerful things in Finale. In an offline conversation with a Coda person, I complained that a major drawback of the CLT is that text (i.e., Left, Center Full, or Right) that is visible in a score could vanish in an extracted part with narrower spacing. I said this was a major flaw that needs to be fixed, at least as an option. His response was that "no one had ever asked for this since it came out in Finale 2000, so it couldn't be too big a problem." I have begun makeing somewhat more use of custom lines (a subset of the smart shape subsystem). For example, working with a score where I wanted to line up the dynamics, I used the smart shape tool to create a "guideline", to line up all the dynamic indications at the desired point below the scale, deleting the guidline afterwards. The knowledge that it is there, and better understanding of how it works leads to all sorts of possibilities ns ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] The Joys of Custom Lines
I sometimes have the impression that the Custom Line tool may be one of the most underused really powerful things in Finale. In an offline conversation with a Coda person, I complained that a major drawback of the CLT is that text (i.e., Left, Center Full, or Right) that is visible in a score could vanish in an extracted part with narrower spacing. I said this was a major flaw that needs to be fixed, at least as an option. His response was that "no one had ever asked for this since it came out in Finale 2000, so it couldn't be too big a problem." This is what led me to think no one is really using the CLT. For example, how many people are aware that the notehead-attached gliss. is actually a Custom Line, and that you can use it with *any* custom line (and as many different ones as you want simultaneously)? "Custom Line" itself is a lousy name, because the tool goes way beyond just lines. For example, I have used the supposed "notehead gliss" tool to create fermatas that center themselves automatically over tremolos. But what good is it if the fermata disappears when the spacing gets too narrow? FWIW: I've not had this problem with fermatas over tremolos. Where I have had it is with special instructions that coincide with gliss. marks, e.g. "bend F#". The Custom Line tool would be perfect for this if only the text would not vanish in narrow spacing. I'm hoping someone else on this list uses custom lines, and will help me disabuse our friends at Coda of the notion that I'm the only one who cares whether custom line text remains visible irrespective of spacing (at least optionally). And if you haven't discovered the CLT, you have a whole new chapter ahead of you. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
