Re: [Finale] OT - New toys (I mean, productivity aids!)
Howard Begun wrote: David Bailey wrote: Are there any Windows users with wireless networks on this list who also use cordless keyboards and/or mice? I am very interested in it, but not if it eats batteries every few hours. I use an MS Wireless Desktop Elite which includes an Intellimouse Explorer 2.0. I have a D-Link 802.11g wireless router sitting about 3 feet from the mouse/keyboard receiver. I've had no interference problems and I get about 2-3 months on the mouse batteries and 5-6 on the keyboard. This is with daily (8-10 hours) use. Earlier MS mice did go through batteries pretty quickly (weeks, not hours) but the latest generation is supposed to have much better power management and my own experience seems to back this up. More importantly, I find no difference in response or precision than with corded mice. [snip] Howard, Thanks for your reply. I will continue to consider cordless mouse and keyboard, based on your experience. David -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?
Richard Yates wrote: The term bandstration has been in widespread use for over 40 years. And you're advocating the use of such a monstrosity? I've never heard it, myself, and think it is ridiculous. -- David W. Fenton Googling bandstration (a common method of judging frequency of usage that is used in alt.english.usage) turns up only 18 hits. This is a remarkably low total for a 40 year old term. (for comparison David W. Fenton turns up 4,950) Googling orchestration turned up 385,000 hits! -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tabbed Browsing
Don´t you have the feeling that new listers are appearing lately? Mmmm... I wonder if they are tabbed-browsing-oriented or not? Are they simple-entry or speedy-entry oriented? Mac or PC? Page view or scroll view? Enjoying, Javier. And while all the debate has been furiously raging (well, squalling at least) I downloaded Firefox to see what the fuss was all about. I've since been having a great time tabbing. C'est très frais!Thanks for passing on the word... Best, Les ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Tabbed Browsing
Another thing that every tabbed browser I've tried has a feature called groups. These are essentially folders of bookmarks (nothing new here), that show up in your links bar. When you click on one of these folders, it lists all the links in that group and at the bottom of the list is an item called Open All In Tabs (this is the different part...) I find this particularly handy because I have a list of things I visit on different days of the week, so I have a group for each day of the week, and then I have a group of websites I visit daily. I open up the Daily group in tabs. It loads all the pages at once, and then as I go through each one I close the tab. There's the next site I want to hit all loaded up. Quite handy. Just my use of tabs... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark D Lew Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 4:52 PM To: Finale-List 3 Subject: Re: [Finale] Tabbed Browsing On Aug 25, 2004, at 12:06 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: I actually first started seeing the need for tabs with regard to Google searches. With tabs, you can open an interesting link from the results page in a new tab, then surf around the site for a while if you want, and just close the tab when you're done to get back to the search results. You don't have to hit back a bunch of times, or search Google again. This actually sounds mildly useful. It's the first thing anyone here has described that sounds like something I might do. Except that I don't hit back a bunch of times. When I'm done chasing down one Google lead, I go to the History menu and go to the last Google entry and it puts me back at my original search. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?
On Aug 25, 2004, at 3:42 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Bandstration? ? Someone please tell me WHAT the classical music world has against the word arrangement. What's wrong with saying Arranged for band? Arranged for string quartet? Arranged for wind octet? - Darcy The word bandstration was originally coined to designate what it is that a composer does with the various instruments when writing an original piece for band. This is not arrangement. Later, the term became used more broadly to designate an arrangement for band; but it should be noted that AFAIK there is no verb to bandstrate. For good examples of how the word is used in practice, take a look at what comes up when you Google it. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: OT Meanings of words
Dear folks, I think most of us are interested in how the meaning of words change over time. One of my favorite examples is the word nice. Its original meaning was naughty. I wonder how and when its meaning was completely turned around. Hal -- Harold Owen 2830 Emerald St., Eugene, OR 97403 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my web site at: http://uoregon.edu/~hjowen FAX: (509) 461-3608 ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: OT Meanings of words was: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?
On Aug 25, 2004, at 5:34 PM, James Bailey wrote: Words have meanings, but if, as you say (and I agree) the English meaning doesn't match the Italian meaning, what is the English meaning? That's the whole point, as far as I'm concerned. We have all the musical terms that we've changed the meaning of. My composition teacher in college was a stickler for the absolute accurate literal translation of musical terms, where many of the other professors were not. In my observation, performers use what they *think* the word means, and don't frequently consult musical dictionaries to discover the actual, literal translation of a word. There's a fundamental misunderstanding here of the way language works. Words mean what they do by concensus, not because some dictionary or expert says so. If the meaning of a word is vague, then it is vague and you either put up with it, or use another word, or use the vague word only in one particular way and hope that everybody catches on eventually. To take any common musical term as if it were now-and-forever an ordinary Italian word is simply silly. By that standard, poco allegro would mean unhappy--but it doesn't, and in music it never did. It means a bit fast, and any musician--even an Italian musician--w. any sense, knows so. These common musical terms of Italian origin continue to be used precisely because they are completely international. Why write fast (which only English speakers will understand) when you can write allegro which means the same thing and will be instantly understood by any musician in the world? Now comes the advanced part: words change. Even technical terms. In the early 19th century, andante was faster than moderato. Now it is slower. There's nothing to be done about it, you just have to deal. Just like you have to deal with modern trills starting on the main note while 17th-18th c. trills start on the auxiliary note. Things happen. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT Meanings of words
See, that would be interesting. I'd love to know how that came about. My new favourite is tawdry. From Merriam-Webster's word of the day: In the 7th century, Etheldreda, the queen of Northumbria, renounced her husband and her royal position for the veil of a nun. She was renowned for her saintliness and is traditionally said to have died of a swelling in her throat, which she took as a judgment upon her fondness for wearing necklaces in her youth. Her shrine became a principal site of pilgrimage in England. An annual fair was held in her honour on October 17th, and her name became simplified to St. Audrey. At these fairs various kinds of cheap knickknacks were sold, along with a type of necklace called St. Audrey's lace, which by the 17th century had become altered to tawdry lace. Eventually, tawdry came to be used to describe anything cheap and gaudy that might be found at these fairs or anywhere else. Is that not wonderful. Poor woman! On 26.08.2004 9:07 Uhr, Harold Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear folks, I think most of us are interested in how the meaning of words change over time. One of my favorite examples is the word nice. Its original meaning was naughty. I wonder how and when its meaning was completely turned around. Hal ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?
indeed, something is lost in castration... klaas. Op 26-aug-04 om 17:49 heeft Andrew Stiller het volgende geschreven: On Aug 25, 2004, at 3:31 PM, Carlberg Jones wrote: At 3:21 PM -0400 8/25/04, David W. Fenton wrote: On 25 Aug 2004 at 11:41, Andrew Stiller wrote: What about piano to concert band? What would you call that (other than the generic arrangement? -- The term bandstration has been in widespread use for over 40 years. What would you call something going from piano to castanets? Since most of the content of the original must necessarily be lost in the transfer, the castanet version is clearly a new piece. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT Meanings of words
On Aug 26, 2004, at 9:07 AM, Harold Owen wrote: I think most of us are interested in how the meaning of words change over time. One of my favorite examples is the word nice. Its original meaning was naughty. I wonder how and when its meaning was completely turned around. Nice has had many connotations over the centuries, including many which are not complimentary, but there are none which are synonymous with naughty, unless it's by some stretch of the imagination that I'm not grasping. The word was born in English from Latin nescius. Ne- means not. Scire at that time was to know (descended from an earlier root meaning to cut). Modern Latinate languages have since moved on to other words for to know, but scire still has numerous descendants (eg, science). Nice thus originally meant ignorant. Its meaning wandered along a path of related meanings including timid, fussy, careful, etc, and on to today's meaning. But I don't think any of these are equivalent to naughty. Unless it is naughty to be ignorant. mdl ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tabbed Browsing
Javier -- As at least one of those newbiesto whom you allude, I'll respond: Tabbed, as a result of this list. And diggin' it. BUT...* Simple; entry AND mind. Have been since my first foray into the lovely world of CODA tech 5 - 6 years ago. PC; XPPro, two 512-MB memsticks and a partitioned 250gig hard drive. Athlon XP 2500+ processor. Scroll, hand's-down. Even with 1,400 - 1,600 measure works, it's my way to go. *But I've noticed since switching to Firefox that downloads do take much longer than with IE - new, old, any URL; also: every time I try to hit a desktop link I had previously made during the IE regime Igetthat charmingbig ol' "THWOMMMPPP" and theerror message 'windows cannot find (and then the URL)' despite the fact that it actually is opening (slowly) under Firefox. I did importeverything I possibly couldduring my browser changeover and wonder why the changeovercontinues to beodd. Best and greetings to all, Les Les MarsdenFounding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa Symphony OrchestraMusic and Mariposa? Ah, Paradise!!! http://www.sierratel.com/mcf/nprc/mso.htm http://www.geocities.com/~jbenz/lesbio.html - Original Message - From: Javier Ruiz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Tabbed Browsing Don´t you have the feeling that new listers are appearing lately?Mmmm...I wonder if they are tabbed-browsing-oriented or not?Are they simple-entry or speedy-entry oriented?Mac or PC?Page view or scroll view?Enjoying,Javier. And while all the debate has been furiously raging (well, squalling at least) I downloaded Firefox to see what the fuss was all about. I've since been having a great time tabbing. C'est très frais! Thanks for passing on the word... Best, Les___Finale mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Tempo Adjustment
Hello, I currently use Finale 2004. Recently the tempo on the playback of a piece has fluctuated. It's usually just one or 2 measures inside of say 32 bars that has a problem. I can't seem to re-adust those 2 measures with theTEMPO TOOL. Those 2 measures don't respond to a new tempo adjustment. I would apreciate any assistance in helping to learn how to correct this. Thanks in advance. BE ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: OT Meanings of words
Naughty could mean of no account. I remember hearing in an old play a woman saying She has nice manners meaning she had no manners at all, which some would construe as naughty. Hal On Aug 26, 2004, at 9:07 AM, Harold Owen wrote: I think most of us are interested in how the meaning of words change over time. One of my favorite examples is the word nice. Its original meaning was naughty. I wonder how and when its meaning was completely turned around. Nice has had many connotations over the centuries, including many which are not complimentary, but there are none which are synonymous with naughty, unless it's by some stretch of the imagination that I'm not grasping. The word was born in English from Latin nescius. Ne- means not. Scire at that time was to know (descended from an earlier root meaning to cut). Modern Latinate languages have since moved on to other words for to know, but scire still has numerous descendants (eg, science). Nice thus originally meant ignorant. Its meaning wandered along a path of related meanings including timid, fussy, careful, etc, and on to today's meaning. But I don't think any of these are equivalent to naughty. Unless it is naughty to be ignorant. mdl ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Harold Owen 2830 Emerald St., Eugene, OR 97403 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my web site at: http://uoregon.edu/~hjowen FAX: (509) 461-3608 ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?
On 26 Aug 2004 at 11:47, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Aug 25, 2004, at 3:21 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: The term bandstration has been in widespread use for over 40 years. And you're advocating the use of such a monstrosity? It's not up to me to advocate. I'm not in charge of the English language. I beg to differ, Andrew. You're the author of a widely used and widely respected text on a closely related subject. Your voice *does* have some authority. You seem to me to be someone who admires precision of language and integrity of usage. Bandstration may be used (it seems very narrowly used), but that doesn't make it good. People do all sorts of things in daily usage that are basically wrong or confusing. In short, I'd expect you to fall more in a prescriptivist camp in regard to usage than in the descriptivist camp. And, actually, it's not the nominative form that's a problem. We have arrangement, a perfectly good term, for the nominative case. What we lack is a verb. Was it it that one does to make the conversion? I would say one orchestrates the piece for band. I see no real alternative to that. Arranges does not mean precisely the same thing to me, which has been the point of this very long discussion). Nor does transcribes. I simply see no problem with this metaphorical usage. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tempo Adjustment
BE Writes: Hello, I currently use Finale 2004. Recently the tempo on the playback of a piece has fluctuated. It's usually just one or 2 measures inside of say 32 bars that has a problem. I can't seem to re-adust those 2 measures with the TEMPO TOOL. Those 2 measures don't respond to a new tempo adjustment. I would apreciate any assistance in helping to learn how to correct this. Thanks in advance. When that has happened to me, I go to Measure 1 and set up the Tempo Tool with zero from there to the end of the piece. Then I set the tempo with a text expression. It usually does the trick. Hal -- Harold Owen 2830 Emerald St., Eugene, OR 97403 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my web site at: http://uoregon.edu/~hjowen FAX: (509) 461-3608 ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] feature request
To MacSupport: Please pass along the following feature request to the development team: In the Measure tool, double-clicking a multimeasure rest should bring up the Multimeasure Rest dialog box. (Rationale: double-clicking a measure allows you to edit that measure, so doing the same for a MM rest should allow you to edit that rest.) Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT Meanings of words
On Aug 26, 2004, at 12:24 PM, James Bailey wrote: See, that would be interesting. I'd love to know how that came about. My new favourite is tawdry. My longtime favorite is marzipan, mangled from the Arabic for a seated king, whence the name of a N. African mediaeval coin showing a king on a box-like throne, from wh. it came (in Italy) to designate a box containing anything valuable--such as these nifty almond candies here--and then of course it became the name of the candy. Now *that's* a long, strange trip. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] WinFin2005: Tile Windows doesn't seem to work
Can somebody else verify this for me: I have 4 files open at once. If I click Tile Windows Horizontally, I get 4 rectangles in a 2x2 pattern. If I click Tile Windows Vertically, I get 4 rectangles in a 2x2 pattern. They both do the same thing, neither of which does what it says. I just did the same thing with 5 files opened, and get 2 in a column on the left with 3 in a column on the right. Same result no matter which Tile Windows I select. Thanks for checking it out. I did send in a message to winsupport. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] [OT] Color Laserprinters Duplex Experiences
I finally decided my search - I bought a Xerox Phaser 6250 DP - and this machine ROCKS... 26 pages per minute, extreme fast and crisp postscript and pdf printout, 2400 photo mode, duplex printing and more cheers Kurt ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT Cleave [was: Meanings of words]
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Hughes writes: How about the word cleave? Two verbs with the same present tense. It can be used as To cleave together Past tense and past participle cleaved. or To cleave apart Past tense clove or cleft, past participle cloven or cleft. -- Ken Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://www.mooremusic.org.uk/ I reject emails 100k automatically: warn me beforehand if you want to send one ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: OT Nice [was Meanings of words]
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Harold Owen writes: I think most of us are interested in how the meaning of words change over time. One of my favorite examples is the word nice. Its original meaning was naughty. OED says that it meant wanton or lascivious in 1325, but an earlier meaning (1290) was foolish. I wonder how and when its meaning was completely turned around. Requiring or involving great precision is as early as 1513 and is still with us (as in nice judgement) though less common than in the 19th C. (A nice dilemma from Trial by Jury c. 1870). Agreeable, delightful, 1769; dainty, appetizing (of food), 1713. Many other meanings, mostly obsolete. -- Ken Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://www.mooremusic.org.uk/ I reject emails 100k automatically: warn me beforehand if you want to send one ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] WinFin2005: Tile Windows doesn't seem to work
dhbailey writes: Can somebody else verify this for me: I have 4 files open at once. If I click Tile Windows Horizontally, I get 4 rectangles in a 2x2 pattern. If I click Tile Windows Vertically, I get 4 rectangles in a 2x2 pattern. They both do the same thing, neither of which does what it says. I just did the same thing with 5 files opened, and get 2 in a column on the left with 3 in a column on the right. Same result no matter which Tile Windows I select. I never use that function, but perhaps they have changed algorithm? 2 and 3 opened windows works as expected, doesn't it? Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] feature request
Op 26-aug-04 om 22:10 heeft Andrew Stiller het volgende geschreven: To MacSupport: Please pass along the following feature request to the development team: In the Measure tool, double-clicking a multimeasure rest should bring up the Multimeasure Rest dialog box. (Rationale: double-clicking a measure allows you to edit that measure, so doing the same for a MM rest should allow you to edit that rest.) Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Brilliant ! I've also sent this feature Request to MacSupport ! It would be a real time saver ! Thanks, Jan Melaerts (using FinMac since 1990) ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
