Re: [Finale] TAN: file names on PC (german characters)
What can you say only 26 letters to accommodate 12 vowels sounds, 10 dipthongs and and 18 consonants... of course with certain consonants competing with each other for the rights to the sound cookie vs. kooky. no wonder the world is confused. And FWIW the US has only continued in the grand old tradition of the British Empire -- bon grès, mal grès (or should that be grey, or gray, or grai?). Unfortunately until we are all functioning with a minimum of UNIX codes and 128bits the problem will continue to probably exist. Gregory On Fri, 13 May 2005 02:43:42 -0400, shirling neueweise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey hiro, what do you mean by the file names are broken, they don't appear properly, non-ascii characters are replaced by others? did you zip the finale files before sending, or just send them as straight finale files? i know you can register websites in germany with addresses which include extended characters, why the *?% can't we exchange files using extended characters (a fairly colonial / anglo-centric term in any case...) today!? perhaps it would have been understandable 10 years ago... lovely. the american standard code for information interchange controls the effectiveness of international exchanges. ack. From: A-NO-NE Music Sorry. Not OK. I just tried it for you, with my OSX to Win2K, file names with these non ASCII are all broken. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Garritan Question
On May 12, 2005, at 7:52 PM, John Howell wrote: At 1:34 PM -0500 5/11/05, Jim Williamson wrote: The standard policy, in the past, was that you could write 1 and 1 only custom chart for 1 band without getting pemission. If you sold a second copy to someone, that would be considered unauthorised publishing. Jim, I'm always willing to learn something new, but that sounds like pure, unadulterated urban legend, like so many opinions regarding copyright law. The standard policy? Whose? Under which provision of the copyright law? And how far in the past? For the past quarter century it certainly hasn't been the case. And the provision of the law that's involved is not the right to publish, but the right to prepare a derivative work. And that right is reserved to the copyright owner without any provision for making one derivative work for one band. (Except, of course, for making an arrangement for recording, but that very narrow permission does NOT extend to live performance.) As you point out later in your post, it certainly doesn't apply to John Williams, and I wouldn't advise going up against Irving Berlin Music, either. As far as I could tell, Jim wasn't talking about law, but about publisher's willingness to allow someone else to arrange one of their works. And his experience seemed to agree with mine, too. Things have changed in attitudes among publishers in the last 20 years or so. When I first started doing this, I dutifully called up publishers asking for permission to arrange, and when they found out that I was writing one arrangement for one band, they politely told me to go ahead and stop bothering them, but don't sell any copies of it. The only outright refusal I got was from the Gershwins. Nowadays the response ranges from the reasonable (Quincy Jones' guy said go ahead for free for any tune in their library, but send a note saying what I am doing, Warner Bros. wanted about $100 and told me not to sell the arrangement) to the outrageous (the publishers of April In Paris wanted $1000 for ONE tune (!) and Valando, handling Sondheim's music, wanted 10% of the concert gross for permission to write ONE arrangement! And then he wanted me to send HIM the arrangement so that HE could sell it!) Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Mac to PC
I want to send a sample of my Finale 2k3 work to a colleague who uses a PC. He has downloaded the Finale NotePad program... I add the .mus suffix, ZIP the file, and send it, but he is unable to open it. What should I do at my end; What should he do at his? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac to PC
At 5/13/2005 07:11 AM, Eden - Lawrence D. wrote: I want to send a sample of my Finale 2k3 work to a colleague who uses a PC. He has downloaded the Finale NotePad program... I add the .mus suffix, ZIP the file, and send it, but he is unable to open it. Open what? The zip file or the mus file? Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac to PC
On May 13, 2005, at 7:11 AM, Eden - Lawrence D. wrote: I want to send a sample of my Finale 2k3 work to a colleague who uses a PC. He has downloaded the Finale NotePad program... I add the .mus suffix, ZIP the file, and send it, but he is unable to open it. What should I do at my end; What should he do at his? Sounds like you did everything right. I assume he has a version of Notepad that is 2003 or later? And that his computer WILL run Notepad (that is, it is modern enough and has all the right operating system and all that)? One last thing that sometimes has to happen: if he double-clicks on the file and it doesn't open, sometimes it WILL open using control-O from inside Finale. If you send me the file privately, I will try to open it to see if indeed the file is good. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: OT: Amazing
Those are the Widgets in Tiger that appear when you use the F12 key (assuming you haven't disabled the Tiger keyboard shortcuts, as I have, because they interfere with other things I've programmed into Finale with Quickeys). There is a dictionary "Widget." Pretty useful, seems to me. Chuck Hi Chuck,Aren't they just great! Have you tried the translation widget yet? I can't seem to get it to work. I can set the languages up OK but can't get to enter text into the fields. Also, the litte spot on lower right corner lights up as I mouse over but isn't clickable like the others (to flip it over I presume). Guess it's a bug but would be nice if someone else on Tiger could confirm.I tried the apple site for bug reports but got no joy.Regards,Jonathan___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Garritan Question
At 6:57 AM -0400 5/13/05, Christopher Smith wrote: As far as I could tell, Jim wasn't talking about law, but about publisher's willingness to allow someone else to arrange one of their works. And his experience seemed to agree with mine, too. Things have changed in attitudes among publishers in the last 20 years or so. When I first started doing this, I dutifully called up publishers asking for permission to arrange, and when they found out that I was writing one arrangement for one band, they politely told me to go ahead and stop bothering them, but don't sell any copies of it. The only outright refusal I got was from the Gershwins. Thanks for that clarification, Christopher. I can certainly accept that there are trends in the publishing industry, just as there are in any industry, and that they may not always follow the letter of the law. Nowadays the response ranges from the reasonable (Quincy Jones' guy said go ahead for free for any tune in their library, but send a note saying what I am doing, Warner Bros. wanted about $100 and told me not to sell the arrangement) to the outrageous (the publishers of April In Paris wanted $1000 for ONE tune (!) and Valando, handling Sondheim's music, wanted 10% of the concert gross for permission to write ONE arrangement! And then he wanted me to send HIM the arrangement so that HE could sell it!) Because, under U.S. law, he DOES own any derivative work based on that copyrighted work. (Don't know about Canada or Europe.) But this simply points out that it is, indeed, up to the individual copyright owners whether to give permission and whether to charge for that permission. That's what the law says. It also sounds, from what you're saying, as if the more tightly-held or family-owned copyrights, as opposed to publisher-owned copyrights, are much less likely to be given permission. I'm certainly not surprised to add Sondheim and the Gershwin estate to John Williams and Irving Berlin Music. Their copyrights are money in the bank. True story: One of our choral conductors here wanted to put on An Evening of Irving Berlin program, and called I.B. Music to ask about the availability of choral arrangements. He was put on hold for a while, and when the person came back he was told, Mr. Berlin does not approve of your proposal. Mr. Berlin, at that time, had been dead for about two years! John -- John Susie Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Garritan Question
On May 13, 2005, at 9:10 AM, John Howell wrote: True story: One of our choral conductors here wanted to put on An Evening of Irving Berlin program, and called I.B. Music to ask about the availability of choral arrangements. He was put on hold for a while, and when the person came back he was told, Mr. Berlin does not approve of your proposal. Mr. Berlin, at that time, had been dead for about two years! Bwhaa-ha! That certainly jibes with what I know about the organization! They (along with the Gershwins' lawyers) appear to be nuts. On the one hand, they refuse reasonable requests that stand to bring in money and raise prestige, on the grounds that they do not adhere to the standard set by the composer, but on the other hand they approve utterly tasteless things (like a certain Gershwin TV special I saw) that cheapen the legacy and lower the standard! One of my teachers, the late Rayburn Wright, approached the Gershwin organisation about writing a different suite on Porgy and Bess commissioned by a major orchestra, as many conductors find the Robert Russell Bennett arrangement a little long in the tooth these days. He was refused, even though they stood to make MORE money, and get MORE performances, and get to distribute Ray's arrangement as well. He was mystified at their bullheadedness. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: Pricing freelance work
I found this blog entry that encompasses an interesting philosophy on pricing freelance work (the blogger has worked in web development, but I think it's equally applicable to copyists and engravers): http://www.dashes.com/anil/2005/05/12/pay_by_the_hour Disclaimer: Make sure you read this with your tongue firmly implanted in your cheek. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Life would be so much easier if only (3/2)^12=(2/1)^7. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: file names on PC (german characters)
shirling neueweise / 2005/05/13 / 02:43 AM wrote: hey hiro, what do you mean by the file names are broken, they don't appear properly, non-ascii characters are replaced by others? did you zip the finale files before sending, or just send them as straight finale files? MacOSX as well as Unix/Linux OSes encodes in UTF8/16, while Windows GUI doesn't (I don't know XP since I never worked for XP GUI). I am almost certain my Win2K GUI is using in CP932 which is Microsoft propriety encoding. Just to be clear, NT kernel does process in UTF8, but GUI transcoder is the one doing some odd things. I zipped with these characters in the file name first. Windows unzip utilities won't unzip them until I renamed the file name to ASCII. i know you can register websites in germany with addresses which include extended characters, This is totally different. You are accessing to website where encoding matches with your web browser encoding. It has nothing to do with your OS encoding. For example, yahoo was (or still is, I don't know) using EUC encoding. The site tells your browser what encoding to use. All in all, US Windows user never suffers from crappy Windows encoding business since you will never see these problems :-( -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Mac to PC
Sometimes I find it's easier if you convert archives to self-extracting ones before you send them. That way you don't have to worry about people not having the right programs in order to open them. Joseph -Original Message- From: Christopher Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 13 May 2005 9:31 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Mac to PC On May 13, 2005, at 7:11 AM, Eden - Lawrence D. wrote: I want to send a sample of my Finale 2k3 work to a colleague who uses a PC. He has downloaded the Finale NotePad program... I add the .mus suffix, ZIP the file, and send it, but he is unable to open it. What should I do at my end; What should he do at his? Sounds like you did everything right. I assume he has a version of Notepad that is 2003 or later? And that his computer WILL run Notepad (that is, it is modern enough and has all the right operating system and all that)? One last thing that sometimes has to happen: if he double-clicks on the file and it doesn't open, sometimes it WILL open using control-O from inside Finale. If you send me the file privately, I will try to open it to see if indeed the file is good. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.9 - Release Date: 12/05/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.9 - Release Date: 12/05/2005 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
