Re: [Finale] Font Management and Japanese fonts - Hiragana or Katakana

[Bruce K H Kau]

I've managed to get something that sorta works. Only thing, is one of 
the characters is mapped to a dash/hyphen, so Finale thinks it is a word 
separator. grrr. I have a work-around for that too, but it's not pretty.


I'm now thinking of looking for some simple font management software - 
rearrange font position assignments, combine font glyphs to accommodate 
the combined kana that Hiro referenced before (thanks for the info, 
Hiro, I did some web research and I think I know what you mean ... I 
hope ... stuff like ka + ya = kya?). I used to use Fontmonger. What is 
the current wisdom of the list on Font Management/Manipulation software? 
Cheap is better. I don't do this often, nor do I do a lot of heavy font 
editing and tweaking.


I've waited for Unicode for three versions now, and I'm getting a little 
tired.  :-(


A-NO-NE Music wrote:

Kurt Gnos / 2006/11/26 / 04:55 PM wrote:

I had it working using some japanese software extension on win98, I 
guess... Was it Twinbridge?


Ah, good old Twinbridge, which was developed for and funded by US
Library, a pseudo Unicode-like, runs on DOS.  Twinbridge created own
font and mapped them on their own way, for non Asian to input so it was
very difficult for natives to use.  When Libraries switched to NT4,
Twinbridge was banned, as I heard.

Just peaking their site, I was surprised that they became one of the
authorized MS importer.  They sell XP Japanese for $450, which is the
price you see everywhere.  I bet MS controls it.  OSX is only $100
street, and you don't need to pay importer for extra because it is the
same as what sold in Japan :-)

I was surprised your copy still works on Word under XP.  MS is really
good with backward compatibility.

I am still unable to do Japanese in Finale 2006 under Win2KSP4JP.  I
tried with many different fonts but to no avail.
Michael Good / 2006/11/25 / 08:59 PM wrote:

Also remember to set the text script to Japanese


Not sure if I understand this.  Is this a WinFin specific thing that I
can't find?  By the way, the XML does tells me you did use MS Gothic.  I
can't make it work.



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Re: [Finale] TAN: Large-format laser

[Johannes Gebauer]

On 28.11.2006 Darcy James Argue wrote:

So -- I'm rapidly approaching the point where I'm ready to throw the damn thing 
out the window and look for a replacement. I know everyone always recommends 
the HP 5100, but that's (still) absurdly expensive. Does anyone have an 
alternative they would recommend?



You can get both the 5100 and the 5000 for relatively little money from 
ebay. That's what I will be doing in the new year.


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Re: [Finale] TAN: Large-format laser

[Eric Dannewitz]

I just talked with Santa, and he says you've been a good boy (mostly), 
and that he'll get you a 5100. Well maybe. There was that thing you did 
in October he was a little iffy iffy about ;-)


Seriously though, if you are using it a lot, and it sounds like you are, 
then get something worth it. I finally ditched my Lexmark Laser, which 
has printed many a Finale project, because the toner is like $200 and 
because it was having issues feeding in paper.


I bought a Brother printer, with postscript, duplex and built-in 
ethernet for $240. Print out looks just as good. It's faster. It just 
works.


And that, when it comes down to it, is worth the money isn't it? 
Something that works like it is supposed to?


Oh, GCC supposedly has some good printers.
http://gccprinters.com/printers/exl40.php
I have a friend who has one. Works great so he says. Except it's about 
the same price as a HP now (it wasn't a couple of years ago).


Another company I've heard good things about is Xante.
http://www.xante.com/products/4n/accel-a-writer4N_printer.aspx

Darcy James Argue wrote:

Hi all,

I'm basically fed up with my Ricoh AP2610 and I'm looking for a 
possible replacement.


The major problem is that on my heavyweight parts paper (100# offset 
-- the equivalent of 40 lb. bond), the duplexer jams at least 50% of 
the time, rendering it all but useless. Frustratingly, it seems to go 
in spurts -- sometimes, I'll be able to print almost an entire run of 
parts without a jam, but then once it starts jamming, it tends to jam 
every time after that.


So, just print two single-sided runs, you say. Ah, but when loading 
paper that has already been printed on one side into the bypass tray, 
the bypass try also jams or misfeeds at least 50% of the time. So I 
always end up running through vastly more paper than I need to, and 
printing takes vastly longer since I need to supervise every farking 
page.


I've tried cleaning the pads and rollers and whatnot with rubbing 
alcohol, but nothing helps.


The duplexer works okay for lighter paper (like 24 lb. bond), but the 
other big problem is that when printing multiple double-sided 
documents (or parts), if the first document ends in an odd-numbered 
page, the printer will print the first page of the *next* document on 
the back of that page -- which makes Fin2007's "print all parts at 
once" feature completely useless unless I'm printing single-sided 
pages, which I rarely do.


So -- I'm rapidly approaching the point where I'm ready to throw the 
damn thing out the window and look for a replacement. I know everyone 
always recommends the HP 5100, but that's (still) absurdly expensive. 
Does anyone have an alternative they would recommend? I need a printer 
capable of at least 11x17 (and 12x18 would be gravy), with a duplex 
unit built-in (or the possibility of adding one). And ideally the 
duplex unit will be able to handle 100# paper. USB or (even better) 
WiFi connection preferred. Cheaper is better, of course, but ideally 
this printer will be not as completely crappy as the Ricoh AP2610, 
which has been easily the worst printer I have ever owned.


Cheers,

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[Finale] TAN: Large-format laser

[Darcy James Argue]

Hi all,

I'm basically fed up with my Ricoh AP2610 and I'm looking for a  
possible replacement.


The major problem is that on my heavyweight parts paper (100# offset  
-- the equivalent of 40 lb. bond), the duplexer jams at least 50% of  
the time, rendering it all but useless. Frustratingly, it seems to go  
in spurts -- sometimes, I'll be able to print almost an entire run of  
parts without a jam, but then once it starts jamming, it tends to jam  
every time after that.


So, just print two single-sided runs, you say. Ah, but when loading  
paper that has already been printed on one side into the bypass tray,  
the bypass try also jams or misfeeds at least 50% of the time. So I  
always end up running through vastly more paper than I need to, and  
printing takes vastly longer since I need to supervise every farking  
page.


I've tried cleaning the pads and rollers and whatnot with rubbing  
alcohol, but nothing helps.


The duplexer works okay for lighter paper (like 24 lb. bond), but the  
other big problem is that when printing multiple double-sided  
documents (or parts), if the first document ends in an odd-numbered  
page, the printer will print the first page of the *next* document on  
the back of that page -- which makes Fin2007's "print all parts at  
once" feature completely useless unless I'm printing single-sided  
pages, which I rarely do.


So -- I'm rapidly approaching the point where I'm ready to throw the  
damn thing out the window and look for a replacement. I know everyone  
always recommends the HP 5100, but that's (still) absurdly expensive.  
Does anyone have an alternative they would recommend? I need a  
printer capable of at least 11x17 (and 12x18 would be gravy), with a  
duplex unit built-in (or the possibility of adding one). And ideally  
the duplex unit will be able to handle 100# paper. USB or (even  
better) WiFi connection preferred. Cheaper is better, of course, but  
ideally this printer will be not as completely crappy as the Ricoh  
AP2610, which has been easily the worst printer I have ever owned.


Cheers,

- Darcy
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Re: [Finale] WinFin 2007 Printing strangeness

[Raymond Horton]

Yes, I should have supplied this:

Ricoh Laser AP2610.  Updating the driver in the middle of the problem 
did not change anything. 

Also, printing to CutePDF produced a PDF with the same result!  
Exporting a TIF was the only solution.


RBH

Noel Stoutenburg wrote:

Raymond Horton wrote:
I requested help for this WinFin 2007 printing strangeness last week 
but received almost no suggestions.  Perhaps after the holiday 
someone has some ideas.
Brand-new computer, and I had just installed 2007, and created some 
new documents.  When printing, 
Information please:  what type of printer, and what driver?  From your 
description, it sounds like a printer / print driver issue.  If you 
want to email me a copy of the file, I'd be happy to take a look


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Re: [Finale] OT: IMPORTING FILES REDUX

[Aaron Sherber]

At 11:32 PM 11/27/2006, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
>The link option on my page requires a URL to which to link,
>but I just want to link to a given file, which happens to now dwell
>on my desktop (as an MP3 File)  as well as in the Finale Folder. I
>don't quite see  where to direct the link.

First, you have to upload the mp3 file, as explained before. If you 
upload the file to the root directory of your web site (that is, not 
to a subfolder), then the URL is just "filename.mp3" (without the 
quotes, of course). If you upload the file to a subfolder, then the 
URL is "SubfolderName/filename.mp3".


(URLs are like relative pathnames. We're all used to thinking of a 
URL as http://www.etcetera, but not all of this is needed. If your 
main page is http://home.comcast.net/~d.esta/default.html and the mp3 
is at http://home.comcast.net/~d.esta/filename.mp3, then a link from 
the main page to the mp3 only needs to give "filename.mp3" as the URL.)


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Re: [Finale] WinFin 2007 Printing strangeness

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Raymond Horton wrote:
I requested help for this WinFin 2007 printing strangeness last week 
but received almost no suggestions.  Perhaps after the holiday someone 
has some ideas.
Brand-new computer, and I had just installed 2007, and created some 
new documents.  When printing, 
Information please:  what type of printer, and what driver?  From your 
description, it sounds like a printer / print driver issue.  If you want 
to email me a copy of the file, I'd be happy to take a look


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Re: [Finale] OT: IMPORTING FILES REDUX

[Dean M. Estabrook]

No offense taken. However, I will pose one more question before I  
quit buggin' you guys, which may solve the problem before I get the  
primer. The link option on my page requires a URL to which to link,  
but I just want to link to a given file, which happens to now dwell  
on my desktop (as an MP3 File)  as well as in the Finale Folder. I  
don't quite see  where to direct the link. If this is pushing the  
issue too far, don't worry about it ... I'll be checking out some  
literature.


Thanks again for the help.

Dean

On Nov 27, 2006, at 5:57 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:


At 07:51 PM 11/27/2006, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
>I had hoped that I could
>establish a personal page and publish it on the web (which I think
>I've done).

Yes.

>Then, onto this page, I had hoped to place (or whatever
>verb is correct here) a number of fin files, so that anyone checking
>out my page could click on said file and hear it play back. I"m not
>sure that means "linking" to said file or not.

It does mean linking. And as a couple of us have pointed out, you  
don't want to link the Finale file -- you want to link an audio  
file (MP3, most likely).


No offense, Dean, but I think you would do well to track down some  
kind of primer on web sites, or to pick up a "For Dummies" book or  
something like it, to give you a better understanding of the basic  
concepts involved.


Aaron.

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RE: [Finale] smart shape bug?

[Richard Willis]

You may want to reinstall Finale. 

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Subject: Re: [Finale] smart shape bug?

Derek Kane wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I have just begun to work with Finale 2007 PC on my XP machine.
> 
> When I try to add a smart shape to a score (i.e. slur, crescendo, 
> decrescendo), finale crashes.  It's nothing dramatic, finale just 
> disappears.  Has anyone else experienced this?  If so, is there a 
> quick solution?
> 

I haven't run into that on my machine -- and I've opened files from previous
versions as well as files I've started in 2007.

Perhaps a list of other applications you're running at the same time, how
much RAM you've got available, maybe a bit more precision with what steps
you're doing immediately before Finale disappears.

If none of us had been able to use Smart Shapes in 2007 without the program
disappearing, you'd better believe you would have heard of it long before
the end of November!



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Re: [Finale] WinFin 2007 Printing strangeness

[Raymond Horton]

I requested help for this WinFin 2007 printing strangeness last week but 
received almost no suggestions.  Perhaps after the holiday someone has 
some ideas. 

Brand-new computer, and I had just installed 2007, and created some new 
documents.  When printing, after some initial mixing of correct and 
miniature printing with no change of user input, I was getting nothing 
but a square the size of a large postage stamp up in the top left corner 
of the paper.  I checked the paper sizes under "Page Layout" "Page 
Setup" and "Print Setup," and everything else I could think of.   
Cutting the DPI down from 600 to 300 made the postage stamp twice as 
large (!) but still quite unusable. 

Files I imported from Finale 98 and 2003 printed correctly, whether or 
not I saved them first as 2007 files. 

I thought that perhaps these old files reset something, because, on a 
hunch, I tried one of my new files - a nearly blank test file with an 
extracted part, and it printed correctly this time!  But the original 
problem file - an 8 voice vocal score and extracted parts - still 
produces only the large postage stamps. 

Thanks for any advice offered.  In the meantime I'm going back to 2006. 


Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, occasional arranger and composer,
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Re: [Finale] OT: IMPORTING FILES REDUX

[Aaron Sherber]

At 07:51 PM 11/27/2006, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
>I had hoped that I could
>establish a personal page and publish it on the web (which I think
>I've done).

Yes.

>Then, onto this page, I had hoped to place (or whatever
>verb is correct here) a number of fin files, so that anyone checking
>out my page could click on said file and hear it play back. I"m not
>sure that means "linking" to said file or not.

It does mean linking. And as a couple of us have pointed out, you 
don't want to link the Finale file -- you want to link an audio file 
(MP3, most likely).


No offense, Dean, but I think you would do well to track down some 
kind of primer on web sites, or to pick up a "For Dummies" book or 
something like it, to give you a better understanding of the basic 
concepts involved.


Aaron.

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Re: [Finale] OT: IMPORTING FILES REDUX

[Dean M. Estabrook]

OH, and yes, I think I saw an option fly by in all  this process that  
had to do with linking... so there may  be hope there, if that's in  
fact what I need.


Thanks some more ...

Dean
On Nov 27, 2006, at 4:28 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:


At 07:11 PM 11/27/2006, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
>Ok, So I now have a published website, and I have an MP3 file
>transferred into my comcast storage.  However, I can not seem to find
>a way by which to get the file from storage onto my one and only
>page.

Do you mean that you want to link to the file from your main page?  
This requires writing some HTML and creating a link to the file.  
Assuming that the mp3 is in the root directory of your web site,  
the HTML would look like this:


Click here to listen

Comcast may have a browser-based editor that simplifies this for  
you; I don't know.


Aaron.

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Re: [Finale] OT: IMPORTING FILES REDUX

[Dean M. Estabrook]

You are being very patient, thank  you. Well, I'm such a tyro at this  
that I'm not sure exactly what I mean. I had hoped that I could  
establish a personal page and publish it on the web (which I think  
I've done). Then, onto this page, I had hoped to place (or whatever  
verb is correct here) a number of fin files, so that anyone checking  
out my page could click on said file and hear it play back. I"m not  
sure that means "linking" to said file or not. If it does, then I am  
probably in over my head.


Thanks again for hanging in there.

Dean

On Nov 27, 2006, at 4:28 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:


At 07:11 PM 11/27/2006, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
>Ok, So I now have a published website, and I have an MP3 file
>transferred into my comcast storage.  However, I can not seem to find
>a way by which to get the file from storage onto my one and only
>page.

Do you mean that you want to link to the file from your main page?  
This requires writing some HTML and creating a link to the file.  
Assuming that the mp3 is in the root directory of your web site,  
the HTML would look like this:


Click here to listen

Comcast may have a browser-based editor that simplifies this for  
you; I don't know.


Aaron.

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Re: [Finale] OT: IMPORTING FILES REDUX

[Aaron Sherber]

At 07:11 PM 11/27/2006, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
>Ok, So I now have a published website, and I have an MP3 file
>transferred into my comcast storage.  However, I can not seem to find
>a way by which to get the file from storage onto my one and only
>page.

Do you mean that you want to link to the file from your main page? 
This requires writing some HTML and creating a link to the file. 
Assuming that the mp3 is in the root directory of your web site, the 
HTML would look like this:


Click here to listen

Comcast may have a browser-based editor that simplifies this for you; 
I don't know.


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[Finale] IMPORTING FILES REDUX

[Dean M. Estabrook]

Ok, So I now have a published website, and I have an MP3 file  
transferred into my comcast storage.  However, I can not seem to find  
a way by which to get the file from storage onto my one and only  
page. Any clues? If it matters, the URL for the site is:


http://home.comcast.net/~d.esta/

Dean

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Re: [Finale] Importing files

[David W. Fenton]

On 27 Nov 2006 at 15:36, Aaron Sherber wrote:

> At 03:19 PM 11/27/2006, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
>  >Well, my only goal at present is to be able to have someone listen
>  to >the file
> 
> Then it needs to be in a listenable format, like MP3 or WAV. 

Or MIDI.

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Re: [Finale] Importing files

[Dean M. Estabrook]

This is a good model ... very well organized. Now if I can just get  
the site operating, I'll be cool.


Dean



Perhaps a page from my online catalog would help show the various  
formats.

Here's one:
   http://maltedmedia.com/people/bathory/cat-large.html

(My Finale files were all ETF and zipped. The ETF format is no longer
necessary.)

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Re: [Finale] Importing files

[Dean M. Estabrook]

Ah, that's kind of what I thought.  My brain is making progress.

Thanks,

Dean

On Nov 27, 2006, at 12:36 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:


At 03:19 PM 11/27/2006, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
>Well, my only goal at present is to be able to have someone listen to
>the file

Then it needs to be in a listenable format, like MP3 or WAV. Or it  
can stay as a Finale file if the person you want to listen to it  
also has Finale.


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Re: [Finale] smart shape bug?

[dhbailey]

Derek Kane wrote:

Greetings,

I have just begun to work with Finale 2007 PC on my XP machine.

When I try to add a smart shape to a score (i.e. slur, crescendo,
decrescendo), finale crashes.  It's nothing dramatic, finale just
disappears.  Has anyone else experienced this?  If so, is there a quick
solution?



I haven't run into that on my machine -- and I've opened files from 
previous versions as well as files I've started in 2007.


Perhaps a list of other applications you're running at the same time, 
how much RAM you've got available, maybe a bit more precision with what 
steps you're doing immediately before Finale disappears.


If none of us had been able to use Smart Shapes in 2007 without the 
program disappearing, you'd better believe you would have heard of it 
long before the end of November!




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Re: [Finale] Importing files

[Dennis Bathory-Kitsz]

At 03:19 PM 11/27/06 -0500, Aaron Sherber wrote:
>It depends what you want people to do with it. If you want them to 
>listen to it, it needs to be an audio file. If you want them to open 
>it in Finale, it needs to be a Finale file. If you want them just to 
>look at it and print it, it can be a PDF. In other words, it should 
>be in whatever format you would put it in if you were emailing it to 
>someone, or burning it to a CD to give to them.

Exactly.

Perhaps a page from my online catalog would help show the various formats.
Here's one:
   http://maltedmedia.com/people/bathory/cat-large.html

(My Finale files were all ETF and zipped. The ETF format is no longer
necessary.)

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[Finale] smart shape bug?

[Derek Kane]

Greetings,

I have just begun to work with Finale 2007 PC on my XP machine.

When I try to add a smart shape to a score (i.e. slur, crescendo,
decrescendo), finale crashes.  It's nothing dramatic, finale just
disappears.  Has anyone else experienced this?  If so, is there a quick
solution?

Thanks,

Derek

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Re: [Finale] FinMac 2005b/PDF Issues?

[Johannes Gebauer]

On 27.11.2006 ER @ HOME wrote:

Hi all,

I've run up against a foible I haven't seen before and was wondering if anyone 
could provide some help...

I've been happily generating PDFs from FinMac files for years. I'm finishing up a project 
in FinMac 2005b, As I began to proofread, I saw that all whole rests have been replaced 
by "pp" symbols. Oddly, all looks well on screen AND prints fine from within 
Finale. Also, printing works fine from the generated PDF to an ink-jet printer. The 
problem only occurs when I try to print the PDF on a laser printer. Any ideas?



I have seen this in the past, and in fact it was the reason I purchased 
PStill. I believe there is a bug somewhere in Acrobat (Reader) 5, which 
is responsible, but it can be avoided by using subsets of fonts, but for 
that you can only use distillers like Acrobat Distiller or PStill.


You might try printing from Reader 7.

Which way are you generating the PDFs?

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Re: [Finale] Importing files

[Aaron Sherber]

At 03:19 PM 11/27/2006, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
>Well, my only goal at present is to be able to have someone listen to
>the file

Then it needs to be in a listenable format, like MP3 or WAV. Or it 
can stay as a Finale file if the person you want to listen to it also 
has Finale.


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Re: [Finale] Importing files

[Aaron Sherber]

At 02:34 PM 11/27/2006, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
>When I do want to transfer a
>file, e.g., foo.mus, what format does it have to be in .. e.g., MP3,
>or what?

It depends what you want people to do with it. If you want them to 
listen to it, it needs to be an audio file. If you want them to open 
it in Finale, it needs to be a Finale file. If you want them just to 
look at it and print it, it can be a PDF. In other words, it should 
be in whatever format you would put it in if you were emailing it to 
someone, or burning it to a CD to give to them.


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Re: [Finale] Importing files

[Dean M. Estabrook]

Well, my only goal at present is to be able to have someone listen to  
the file, e.g., on the Finale Forum. So far, I'm not able to create  
the bloody website anyway, so it may well be an exercise in futility.  
We'll see.


Thanks for the help so far ...

Dean

On Nov 27, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Phil Daley wrote:




It's already in a format - mus.  It's just a file.

No one will be able to view it who doesn't have Finale.

If you want to put a a viewable file, you'll need to make it into a  
pdf or image file.


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Re: [Finale] OT history

[Andrew Stiller]

At 9:59 AM +0100 11/27/06, Daniel Wolf wrote:
I think, however, that you would agree that in the huge expansion of 
Higher Education which took place in the the post-war era, 
Universities and the Military clearly worked to mutual benefit: 
inflating the freshman class both created opportunities for students 
who might not otherwise see a University campus (as did the GI Bill 
for veterans) and was a growth opportunity for the Universities, and 
the addition of both education and maturity to the draft pool was 
beneficial to the military.


A few years ago I came across a world history survey (17th c. on, I 
think) by a very conservative British historian. The chapter about the 
US in the 1960s was called "America's Suicide Attempt," which seemed 
very apt because this was, after all, the time when this country spent 
a great deal of energy pulling itself apart and attempting to kill its 
own children. But no, what this guy had in mind was that we had 
undertaken to offer higher education to large numbers of proles who 
were unsuited to it, thereby inviting a near-fatal level of social 
instability. I can think of no clearer illustration of the difference 
between the British and American right wings.


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Re: [Finale] Importing files

[dhbailey]

Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
Thank you guys. Actually, I don't have the web site set up yet, but I  
hope to do it soon. I am on Comcast, which has an "easy" site set up 
option which I've been messing around with. I still don't understand 
enough about the process to complete it, but I'm studying the thing. I 
did check out the comcast net storage info, which seem to make a fair 
amount of sense to me.  When I do want to transfer a file, e.g., 
foo.mus, what format does it have to be in .. e.g., MP3, or what?




That depends on what you want your millions of adoring web-site visitors 
to do with it -- if you just want them to hear it, then upload it as an 
mp3 file, but keep the bit-rate low because of bandwidth issues.  Most 
hosts have a maximum amount of upload/download bandwidth allowable per 
month, and that's easily maxed out with audio files.


If you want people to be able to view the music, maybe edit it a bit, 
then post it as a .mus, but be warned that people can then download it 
and do anything with it using Notepad or PrintMusic or Finale.


If you want people to be able just to view the music, save it as a PDF 
file and upload that.


So the format you use is really dependent on what you want your visitors 
to be able to do with it.


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Re: [Finale] Importing files

[Phil Daley]

At 11/27/2006 02:34 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:

>Thank you guys. Actually, I don't have the web site set up yet, but
>I  hope to do it soon. I am on Comcast, which has an "easy" site set
>up option which I've been messing around with. I still don't
>understand enough about the process to complete it, but I'm studying
>the thing. I did check out the comcast net storage info, which seem
>to make a fair amount of sense to me.  When I do want to transfer a
>file, e.g., foo.mus, what format does it have to be in .. e.g., MP3,
>or what?

It's already in a format - mus.  It's just a file.

No one will be able to view it who doesn't have Finale.

If you want to put a a viewable file, you'll need to make it into a pdf or 
image file.


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Re: [Finale] Importing files

[Dean M. Estabrook]

Thank you guys. Actually, I don't have the web site set up yet, but  
I  hope to do it soon. I am on Comcast, which has an "easy" site set  
up option which I've been messing around with. I still don't  
understand enough about the process to complete it, but I'm studying  
the thing. I did check out the comcast net storage info, which seem  
to make a fair amount of sense to me.  When I do want to transfer a  
file, e.g., foo.mus, what format does it have to be in .. e.g., MP3,  
or what?


Dean

On Nov 27, 2006, at 10:04 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote:


At 12:43 PM 11/27/2006, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
>If one has a web site, how does one transfer a fin file to it?

I just saw in your sig that you're on Comcast. Is that where your  
web site is? If so, then take a look at 


Aaron.

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Re: [Finale] Importing files

[Aaron Sherber]

At 01:53 PM 11/27/2006, Chuck Israels wrote:
>To add to Aaron's suggestion,there's a handy $15 utility called
>FileChute that does this automatically and generates a URL for the
>file at the same time, so that you can then email the URL to the
>intended recipient, and they can download the file. 

But when you upload a file to your web site, it automatically *has* a 
URL. For example, if Dean were to upload foo.mus to the root of his 
Comcast site, the URL would be 
http://home.comcast.net/~d.esta/foo.mus. This is true no matter what 
method he uses for uploading.


If you like FileChute as an FTP application, that's fine, but I'm not 
sure why it's worth paying any money just to find out what the URL 
is. FileChute isn't doing anything special here.


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Re: [Finale] Importing files

[Chuck Israels]

To add to Aaron's suggestion,there's a handy $15 utility called  
FileChute that does this automatically and generates a URL for the  
file at the same time, so that you can then email the URL to the  
intended recipient, and they can download the file.  Karen Guthery  
recommended this application some time ago, and I have used it  
hundreds of times.


Chuck


On Nov 27, 2006, at 10:04 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote:


At 12:43 PM 11/27/2006, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
>If one has a web site, how does one transfer a fin file to it?

I just saw in your sig that you're on Comcast. Is that where your  
web site is? If so, then take a look at 


Aaron.

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[Finale] FinMac 2005b/PDF Issues?

[ER @ HOME]

Hi all,

I've run up against a foible I haven't seen before and was wondering if anyone 
could provide some help...

I've been happily generating PDFs from FinMac files for years. I'm finishing up 
a project in FinMac 2005b, As I began to proofread, I saw that all whole rests 
have been replaced by "pp" symbols. Oddly, all looks well on screen AND prints 
fine from within Finale. Also, printing works fine from the generated PDF to an 
ink-jet printer. The problem only occurs when I try to print the PDF on a laser 
printer. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,
Eric Richards


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Re: [Finale] OT history

[John Howell]

At 9:59 AM +0100 11/27/06, Daniel Wolf wrote:

John:

I was rhetorically exaggerating my case, of course, which should 
have been clear by my writing "_it seems like_ every University had 
one or two courses or requirements specifically designed to weed out 
potential draftees", But it is a point of fact that quotas on class 
size and reduction of that size from year-to-year were set at 
political and administrative levels, and that purely academic 
criteria were not used to arrive at these quotas.  There is a huge 
public record of discussion about this (I'm familiar with some of 
that which took place, well before my time, at the University of 
California and Cal State Sytems).


Yes, I've been known to exaggerate a bit myself!  Point taken.  But 
as someone who grew up in a family of educators, I saw a very 
different picture.  Perfectly good research showed that teaching was 
more effective with smaller class sizes, and there was nothing 
"political" about that research although it was obviously an 
administrative problem requiring the funding of additional faculty 
positions.  (And it makes a difference whether we are talking about 
elementary, secondary, or college classes.  I assume the latter.)


(Yes, I realized that I'm picking at nits, but I'm enjoying the discussion.)

I think, however, that you would agreed that in the huge expansion 
of Higher Education which took place in the the post-war era, 
Universities and the Military clearly worked to mutual benefit: 
inflating the freshman class both created opportunities for students 
who might not otherwise see a University campus (as did the GI Bill 
for veterans) and was a growth opportunity for the Universityes, and 
the addition of both education and maturity to the draft pool was 
beneficial to the military.


My Mom was teaching in community college right after WW II, and was 
right in the middle of the GI Bill rush and all the students who 
never would have considered higher education without it.  And my own 
grad school was made much more comfortable by the fact that I 
qualified for GI Bill benefits as well as a government fellowship I 
didn't even know about!  But it depends on exactly what you mean by 
"mutual benefit."  Yes, the law was the law, and Universal Military 
Training was in place (but only for males, of course), and ROTC 
courses were required (and taught by active duty military officers, 
NOT paid out of university budgets).  But it's an awfully big stretch 
between that reality and the theory that universities and the 
military were working in cahoots, and to the detriment of students. 
Of course the military wanted well educated officers.  The entire 
officer corps were college educated.  What we've found more recently 
is quite a few students--and not necessarily in the Corps of 
Cadets--who are in the reserves and have been called up for active 
duty, starting back with the situation in Kosovo.  The university, by 
policy, makes it as easy as possible for those students to leave and 
to return, and not all the deployments are long ones, but it's 
something we've learned to live with.


But the main point of this thread was the decline in language 
requirements, and my point was that pressure from students wishing 
to avoid the draft had less to do with this than the fact that 
academic faculties (particularly in Science and Engineering)  had 
ceased requiring languages on their own, as that study was no longer 
essential to research or scholarship in their fields.


Well, we seem to be in complete agreement about that.  Of course 
university used to mean a place to study religion, back when schools 
like Harvard and Yale were founded, and it was necessary to read 
Latin, Greek, and Hebrew at minimum in order to study scriptures in 
the original.  Which is why Latin was taught in elementary and 
secondary prep schools.  Later on in history it was still taught 
because it was "good for you" or "trained your mind," which has 
always struck me as a load of B.S.!  But today, to be a citizen of 
the world, understanding other languages and cultures is a must, and 
business students who are fluent in other languages are just as 
needed as military intelligence members.  I've often been asked to 
write recommendations for students applying for internships with the 
CIA, and it is always the very best, most knowledgeable, sharpest 
students.  That should tell us something.


John


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Re: [Finale] Importing files

[Aaron Sherber]

At 12:43 PM 11/27/2006, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
>If one has a web site, how does one transfer a fin file to it?

I just saw in your sig that you're on Comcast. Is that where your web 
site is? If so, then take a look at 


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Re: [Finale] Importing files

[Aaron Sherber]

At 12:43 PM 11/27/2006, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
>If one has a web site, how does one transfer a fin file to it?

That depends on your hosting provider. Most hosting services let you 
transfer files via FTP, which requires either a separate FTP 
application or knowledge of the built-in command line FTP on Windows 
or Mac. Others have a web-based interface which works in your browser.


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Re: [Finale] Back to Finale - linked parts

[Darcy James Argue]

On 27 Nov 2006, at 10:49 AM, John Howell wrote:


At 10:18 PM -0500 11/26/06, Darcy James Argue wrote:


And since Robert's Copyists Helper doesn't fully support linked  
parts (MM's fault, not his), you lose the ability to have the  
*current* instrument name displayed in the page header -- i.e.,  
for a part that begins on flute but switches to soprano sax in the  
middle of page 2, you would want "MY BRILLIANT CHART - Reed 1  
(Fl.) p.2", but then "MY BRILLIANT CHART - Reed 2 (S. Sx.) p.3".


The last example is interesting, but something I would probably  
never do.  "Reed 1" identifies the part (did you really intend to  
mix Reed 1 and Reed 2 in the same part?).


No. I meant "Reed 1" both times.

For a reminder I would just put the instrument name in parentheses  
at the top of the page, since I might have several instrument  
changes on any given page.


Yes, that's what I was suggesting.

The point is that if you start the rehearsal with "let's take it from  
bar 300," the player doesn't have to flip back several pages and find  
the most recent instrument change indication. They can just look at  
the top of the page, then check to see if there are any instrument  
change indications between the top of the page and bar 300.


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Re: [Finale] Importing files

[Phil Daley]

You would FTP the file name to it.

At 11/27/2006 12:43 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:

>If one has a web site, how does one transfer a fin file to it?

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[Finale] Importing files

[Dean M. Estabrook]

If one has a web site, how does one transfer a fin file to it?

Dean

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Re: [Finale] Back to Finale - linked parts

[John Howell]

At 10:18 PM -0500 11/26/06, Darcy James Argue wrote:


And since Robert's Copyists Helper doesn't fully support linked 
parts (MM's fault, not his), you lose the ability to have the 
*current* instrument name displayed in the page header -- i.e., for 
a part that begins on flute but switches to soprano sax in the 
middle of page 2, you would want "MY BRILLIANT CHART - Reed 1 (Fl.) 
p.2", but then "MY BRILLIANT CHART - Reed 2 (S. Sx.) p.3".


The last example is interesting, but something I would probably never 
do.  "Reed 1" identifies the part (did you really intend to mix Reed 
1 and Reed 2 in the same part?).  For a reminder I would just put the 
instrument name in parentheses at the top of the page, since I might 
have several instrument changes on any given page.


John


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Re: [Finale] OT history

[Daniel Wolf]

John:

I was rhetorically exaggerating my case, of course, which should have 
been clear by my writing "_it seems like_ every University had one or 
two courses or requirements specifically designed to weed out potential 
draftees", But it is a point of fact that quotas on class size and 
reduction of that size from year-to-year were set at political and 
administrative levels, and that purely academic criteria were not used 
to arrive at these quotas.  There is a huge public record of discussion 
about this (I'm familiar with some of that which took place, well before 
my time, at the University of California and Cal State Sytems).   I 
think, however, that you would agreed that in the huge expansion of 
Higher Education which took place in the the post-war era, Universities 
and the Military clearly worked to mutual benefit: inflating the 
freshman class both created opportunities for students who might not 
otherwise see a University campus (as did the GI Bill for veterans) and 
was a growth opportunity for the Universityes, and the addition of both 
education and maturity to the draft pool was beneficial to the military.  

But the main point of this thread was the decline in language 
requirements, and my point was that pressure from students wishing to 
avoid the draft had less to do with this than the fact that academic 
faculties (particularly in Science and Engineering)  had ceased 
requiring languages on their own, as that study was no longer essential 
to research or scholarship in their fields.


Daniel Wolf


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