Re: [Finale] mozart (OT)
On 19.01.2007 Andrew Stiller wrote: Absolutely. Kolisch was a famous enough violinist that he probably could have commissioned such an instrument--but by that time he would have been so accustomed to his own, idiosyncratic playing style that it would have been more trouble than it was worth to switch over. I don't understand what you are saying. No doubt he either had a violin made or one changed around (which requires opening it). You are not implying that he used a normal strung instrument? That I am absolutely certain was not what he did. Kolisch is not the only one who played the other round. Reinhard Goebel tried this for years, there is also quite a famous viola player, Kussmaul (not the violinist, but his brother) who plays the other way round. He even led the violas in the WDR orchestra for some time, it must have looked very strange but they somehow manager. I would say that if he could play the Schoenberg concerto back-handed, then he could play anything thus. I am left handed, so I guess it is the same for me. (I never played the Schoenberg, I admit, but I got as far as Alban Berg...). There are advantages and disadvantages. The really amazing thing about Kolisch was that he changed around in his teens. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2007b is out
If you've kept a backup copy of the original Finale 2007, it will open the files created with 2007a. On 19 Jan 2007, at 09:40, dc wrote: I was just about to send a message to the list on the question of hyphens, because they are indeed messed up in 2007a: some of them appear on screen but not on the print-out; worse, at the end of a system, there are hyphens missing when there is plenty of room. Has anyone contacted MM about this? What do they have to say? I'm in a mess, because I have to deliver files started in 2007! How does one go back to 2007 from 2007a? Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] EPS export - Mac OS X 10.4 - Fin07
On 18-Jan-07, at 12:47 PM, Paul Hayden wrote: I've been confused by some recent postings about EPS exporting on Macs -- I thought MM finally straightened out that problem. Does EPS export work reliably with Finale 2007 on Macs running OS X 10.4 (Tiger)? Any problems with embedding fonts, printing, etc.? I've never had any problem with FinMac up to 2006, except for one case where the client got the .pdf printed at a print shop running Windows 98, which substituted characters in the music. YMMV. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] mozart (OT)
On 19 Jan 2007 at 11:10, dc wrote: > Daniel Wolf écrit: > > >Any meantone-like temperament can be fretted with straight frets > > Amen! And both of you have been playing the viol for how long? -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2007b is out
I'm not sure, but I think that hyphens in 2006a work as they do in 2004. In 2006b a new bug appeared, that produced two undesirable effects: 1. When syllables got closer than a certain amount, the hyphens were too far to the right. 2. Hyphens no longer disappeared when the syllables were moved very close together. This bug is still present in 2007 (original version). MakeMusic tried to correct the bug in 2007a, but the cure was worse than the illness: as you noticed, hyphens now disappear when they shouldn't, and if there is a hyphen at the end of a system, it's too near to the syllable it follows. If you don't need very tight lyric spacing, 2007 (original version) should produce acceptable results. On 19 Jan 2007, at 13:22, dc wrote: Hi Michael, To get correct hyphen placement suitable for a serious publisher, you need to go back to 2006a or earlier. I've just gone back to 2007 from 2007a, and this does solve some of the problems with hyphens, but not all. Could you tell me the "improvements" I could expect from 2006a over 2007 regarding hyphens (I downgraded directly from 2004 to 2007, so I don't know how 2006 behaves)? Hyphens have been a major problem since I started using Finale. It's quite pathetic to think that not only the old problems aren't solved, but each new version seems to introduce new bugs... Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] mozart (OT)
David W. Fenton wrote: On 19 Jan 2007 at 11:10, dc wrote: Daniel Wolf écrit: Any meantone-like temperament can be fretted with straight frets Amen! And both of you have been playing the viol for how long? I took my first bass viol lesson in '77. I'd play more but don't own an instrument. Daniel Wolf ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] 2007b is out
Did the 2006c update fix the hyphens, or was 2006c just a Mac thing? Was there any major fix in 2006b compared to 2006a? I may want to revert since I have a vocal project coming up. Thanx, Jim From: dc Sent: Fri 19-Jan-07 9:17 To: finale@shsu.edu; finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] 2007b is out Michael Cook écrit: I'm not sure, but I think that hyphens in 2006a work as they do in 2004. In 2006b a new bug appeared, that produced two undesirable effects: 1. When syllables got closer than a certain amount, the hyphens were too far to the right. 2. Hyphens no longer disappeared when the syllables were moved very close together. This bug is still present in 2007 (original version). MakeMusic tried to correct the bug in 2007a, but the cure was worse than the illness: as you noticed, hyphens now disappear when they shouldn't, and if there is a hyphen at the end of a system, it's too near to the syllable it follows. If you don't need very tight lyric spacing, 2007 (original version) should produce acceptable results. Many thanks, Michael, for the details! Much appreciated. I'll stick with 2007 for now (I don't have much choice). But I find all this quite amazing! Why aren't these changes documented in the updates? Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2007b (or what ever)
On 1/19/07, dc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd now say it's never good to update Finale before it has been beta-tested by some of the knowledgeable list-members. 1. Does MM read the messages on this forum? I think some of the fine staff of Sibelius participate in the Yahoo group, but I am not sure if there that's the case for Finale. 2. Does MM actually have beta testers like other software applications? Sorry to hear about the hyphen woes :( Best regards, Kim ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2007b (or what ever)
On 19 Jan 2007 at 15:37, dc wrote: > Eric Dannewitz écrit: > >It's always good to update a program > > Except in the case of Finale, where you are liable to get bitten by > undocumented new bugs. Finale is certainly not the only application that has such bugs or reversions in supposed patches. Indeed, I would disagree with Eric's advice, and say that one should *never* update an application *unless* one knows that the update explicitly addresses a problem that you know you have had. Otherwise, it ain't broke for you, so there's no reason to fix it. > I'd now say it's never good to update Finale before it has been > beta-tested by some of the knowledgeable list-members. This is the case with any application, seems to me. Of course, my 15+ years of experience supporting 100s of computer users has made me fairly conservative in this regard, after seeing way too many optimistic upgrades go bad. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] mozart (OT)
On 18.01.2007 David W. Fenton wrote: Yes, indeed, and not uniformly along the string length. When a viol's strings get to the point that you have to be moving the higher frets down the fingerboard to play in tune, you know it's time to replace your strings. And, of course, the wrapped strings change a rate different from the unwrapped, and the thicker gut strings change at a rate different from the thin ones. The maximal point of conflict on the gamba is between the two middle strings, C and E, where the C is the thinnest of the wrapped strings and the E is the thickest of the unwrapped. Things very quickly become problematic there. And replacing all your strings on a viol is 50% more expensive than for a violin! :) Sure, but they last longer. An E string only lasts a few days, less in summer. But I have a trick for the tuning problems with older strings. If your strings get older, put a little piece of match (I use a piece of an old string) under them right at the nut, to make the open string length shorter. You can compensate for quite a lot using this method. You can even adjust as the stzring gets worseEspecially with the expensive D catline string (please don't start a discussion on whether they are historical or not, I know about these problems) I can use a lot longer without going mad on intonation problems, even when playing unaccompanied Bach. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: 2007b is out
It's quite pathetic to think that not only the old problems aren't solved, but each new version seems to introduce new bugs... well, dennis, really the onus is on you for not yet understanding that this concept/approach is in fact a feature, and a feature for which most of us are more than willing to throw our money on the table. you're probably just bitter because the MM water bottle gifts ran out before you upgraded to 2006. croupier? -- shirling & neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] mozart (OT)
Daniel Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The partials in the sustained portion of a plucked string are harmonic, and thus tunable to just intervals by eliminating beats. This is true only of perfectly flexible strings. Real ones have some stiffness, which makes the partials slightly sharper than harmonic, the difference increasing with higher numbers. It's a fairly small effect, enough to ameliorate the roughness of thirds in ET 12, but less than enough to eliminate it altogether, even on the piano. -- Ken Moore ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2007b (or what ever)
Kim Patrick Clow wrote: On 1/19/07, dc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd now say it's never good to update Finale before it has been beta-tested by some of the knowledgeable list-members. 1. Does MM read the messages on this forum? I think some of the fine staff of Sibelius participate in the Yahoo group, but I am not sure if there that's the case for Finale. There are some MM staff who read these messages, but their participation on this list is unofficial. There is one Sibelius staff on the yahoogroups list, Daniel Spreadbury, who has the patience of a saint and the knowledge of the internal workings of Sibelius like few others. 2. Does MM actually have beta testers like other software applications? Yes. And just like other software applications versions ship with both known bugs and undiscovered bugs. Not that that makes it right, just that bugs are a fact of life in software applications. When they get too many or too overwhelming for people to continue to do the work they need to get done, they change to another application. With MusicXML, switching between Finale files and Sibelius is getting very good, so the good folks at MM had better sit up and take better notice of user grumblings. And Sibelius now has their own flavor of GPO so Finale has nothing at all in the way of major features to keep its loyal user base. It's just the inner workings and the details which have kept so many of us still using Finale, and if MM is going to continue to let buggy software slip through, where the bugs are pretty blatant and for a fairly significant proportion of users (those who use lyrics with hyphens, for instance), they're going to be left with fewer and fewer end-users. Sorry to hear about the hyphen woes :( Me, too! -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2007b (or what ever)
dc wrote: Kim Patrick Clow écrit: 2. Does MM actually have beta testers like other software applications? Yes, and some of them are on this list. But I think they're not allowed to say so! And then, there are all the other beta-testers: us users!! Sometimes it feels as if we're alpha-testers, though! :-( -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] 2007b (or what ever)
If you ever use rebar, you want 2k7b. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Éric Dussault > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:35 PM > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale] 2007b (or what ever) > > The consensus is maybe more like, "Why have they made this? What's > the point of this upgrade?" > > Éric > > On 07-01-18, at 22:25, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: > > > So, is the consensus that it is, or is not worth our time > to upgrade? > > > > Dean > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] 2007b is out
There was no change that I remember. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darcy James Argue > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:55 PM > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale] 2007b is out > > Hey Allen, > > Really? Hmm. That's very mysterious. Was there any change to the > installer behavior after the initial release of Finale 2007a? I > grabbed Fin2007a as soon as it was available, and I definitely ended > up with two separate apps after running the installer, one called > "Finale 2007" and one called "Finale 2007a." > > What happened when everyone else ran the Finale 2007a updater? Did > you end up with separate "Finale 2007" and "Finale 2007a" apps, or > just a single, updated app named "Finale 2007." > > Cheers, > > - Darcy > - > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Brooklyn, NY > > > > On 18 Jan 2007, at 12:37 PM, Fisher, Allen wrote: > > > Huh? I just ran the Finale 2007a installer and it installed an > > application called Finale 2007, and the about box says 2007a.r3 for > > Macintosh > > > > Same with the updater. > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darcy James Argue > >> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:44 AM > >> To: finale@shsu.edu > >> Subject: Re: [Finale] 2007b is out > >> > >> Hey Allen, > >> > >> I'm afraid this isn't how it works now -- the installer > >> (confusingly) > >> left Finale 2007a in place, and created a new application > >> called just > >> "Finale 2007." At first, I wasn't sure if the installer had even > >> worked. Since the Fin2007a installer leaves the original Fin2007 in > >> place, I think a lot of users will be confused about this. > >> > >> I'm all for maintenance updates replacing the earlier versions > >> instead of creating a second (or third, or fourth) copy of the app, > >> but the behavior needs to be consistent and clear. > >> > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> - Darcy > >> - > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Brooklyn, NY > >> > >> > >> > >> On 18 Jan 2007, at 11:14 AM, Fisher, Allen wrote: > >> > >>> Darcy Said: > I would actually be in favor of NOT appending "a", "b", > etc to the > filename, provided this was done consistently, and that > the Finale > maintenance updates would actually UPDATE the app instead of > creating > a duplicate. > >>> > >>> This is how it works now. > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> Finale mailing list > >>> Finale@shsu.edu > >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> > >> ___ > >> Finale mailing list > >> Finale@shsu.edu > >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> > > > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] mozart (OT)
On Jan 19, 2007, at 3:48 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: You are not implying that he [Kolisch] used a normal strung instrument? That I am absolutely certain was not what he did. What can I say? I saw him do it. And from what I was told about the "why" of it all, I'm not even sure he was left-handed. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re(4): [Finale] EPS export - Mac OS X 10.4 - Fin07
Hi Steve, I just did another test with Helvetica, Palatino and Times and all three printed fine from InDesign. InDesign did warn me that the document contained a binary EPS which might cause the print job to fail--but it didn't. I also ran the EPS through Distiller 7.0 and the PDF had the characters displayed correctly and the PDF printed correctly. I'm wondering if it may be a PostScript issue for you. I'm using a Xerox Phaser printer with PostScript Version 3015.102 (2). **Leigh On Thu, Jan 18, 2007, Fiskum, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hello Leigh, > >My immediate questions are: >1. What font did you use to create this character (name and type)? >2. Did you print it out of Illustrator or InDesign or did you just look >at it on screen? > >I have found that Times, Palatino, and Helvetica are problematic fonts >with this issue. > >Steve ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: Re(4): [Finale] EPS export - Mac OS X 10.4 - Fin07
Hello Leigh, I'm glad that worked... What type of font was it and who is the manufacturer of the font? Are you MAC or PC sorry I can't remember? This happens not only on 1 printer it happens on every printer and 6 different machines running different version of OS10.4, it also happens when going to PDF (which you can see on screen) and through pre-press rips. This is a known bug at MakeMusic that is not being addressed in their releases. But I am curious as to why it's working for you... Steve On 1/19/07 12:30 PM, "Leigh Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Steve, > > I just did another test with Helvetica, Palatino and Times and all three > printed fine from InDesign. InDesign did warn me that the document > contained a binary EPS which might cause the print job to fail--but it > didn't. I also ran the EPS through > Distiller 7.0 and the PDF had the characters displayed correctly and the > PDF printed correctly. > > I'm wondering if it may be a PostScript issue for you. I'm using a Xerox > Phaser printer with PostScript Version 3015.102 (2). > > **Leigh > > On Thu, Jan 18, 2007, Fiskum, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hello Leigh, >> >> My immediate questions are: >> 1. What font did you use to create this character (name and type)? >> 2. Did you print it out of Illustrator or InDesign or did you just look >> at it on screen? >> >> I have found that Times, Palatino, and Helvetica are problematic fonts >> with this issue. >> >> Steve > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Mozart
Friends, Due to the length and perambulation regarding this header/topic, I ask you to start newer titles to clarify and re-direct our discussions. This request is a codicil to the request that FINALEDIGEST not be used as a subject header. Also, please refer to this note offlist only;-) Henry Howey Professor of Music Sam Houston State University Box 2208 Huntsville, TX 77341 (936) 294-1364 http://www.shsu.edu/~music/faculty/howey.html Owner of FINALE Discussion List ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re(6): [Finale] EPS export - Mac OS X 10.4 - Fin07
Steve, I'm on a Mac G5 with 10.4.8. Below is the info from FontBook. Hope this helps; these things can really be immensely frustrating to track down. **Leigh PostScript name Palatino-Roman Full name Palatino Family Palatino Style Regular KindTrueType LanguageEnglish, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Norwegian Bokmål, Portuguese, Spanish, Swedish Version 3.8 Location/Library/Fonts/Palatino Unique name Palatino; 3.8; 2006-02-23 Copyright Copyright © 1991-99, 2006 Apple Computer, Inc. Copyright © 1991-92 Type Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. Trademark Palatino is a registered trademark of Linotype AG Enabled Yes Duplicate No PostScript name Times-Bold Full name Times Bold Family Times Style Bold KindTrueType LanguageEnglish, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Norwegian Bokmål, Portuguese, Spanish, Swedish Version 5.0d10e1 Location/System/Library/Fonts/Times.dfont Unique name Times Bold; 5.0d10e1; 2005-01-27 Copyright © 1990-99 Apple Computer Inc. © 1981 Linotype AG © 1990-91 Type Solutions Inc. © 1990-91 The Font Bureau Inc. Trademark Times is a registered trademark of Linotype AG Enabled Yes Duplicate No PostScript name Helvetica-Bold Full name Helvetica Bold Family Helvetica Style Bold KindTrueType LanguageEnglish, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, Swedish Version 3.5a3 Location/System Folder/Fonts/Helvetica Unique name Apple Computer Helvetica Bold Copyright © 1990-99 Apple Computer Inc. © 1981 Linotype AG © 1990-91 Type Solutions Inc. Trademark Helvetica is a registered trademark of Linotype AG Enabled Yes Duplicate Yes On Fri, Jan 19, 2007, Fiskum, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hello Leigh, > >I'm glad that worked... > >What type of font was it and who is the manufacturer of the font? > >Are you MAC or PC sorry I can't remember? > >This happens not only on 1 printer it happens on every printer and 6 >different machines running different version of OS10.4, it also happens when >going to PDF (which you can see on screen) and through pre-press rips. This >is a known bug at MakeMusic that is not being addressed in their releases. >But I am curious as to why it's working for you... > >Steve > > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] mozart (OT)
It's a great story Andrew. You must of been a young fellow. Jerry Gerald Berg On 19-Jan-07, at 12:49 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Jan 19, 2007, at 3:48 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: You are not implying that he [Kolisch] used a normal strung instrument? That I am absolutely certain was not what he did. What can I say? I saw him do it. And from what I was told about the "why" of it all, I'm not even sure he was left-handed. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Who's Who in the Band
i have Who's Who in the Band ready to send out but the recipient's address has disappeared from my email. She had requested this piece for beginning band. Would you please send me your address again. Sorry the list has to read this. John Wyman ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: Re(6): [Finale] EPS export - Mac OS X 10.4 - Fin07
Hello Leigh, The problem is with postscript fonts not TrueType. Your list below is showing only TrueType. That is the main problem. Thanks, Steve On 1/19/07 1:08 PM, "Leigh Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve, > > I'm on a Mac G5 with 10.4.8. Below is the info from FontBook. Hope this > helps; these things can really be immensely frustrating to track down. > > **Leigh > > PostScript name Palatino-Roman > Full name Palatino > Family Palatino > Style Regular > Kind TrueType > Language English, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Italian, > Norwegian Bokmål, Portuguese, Spanish, Swedish > Version 3.8 > Location /Library/Fonts/Palatino > Unique name Palatino; 3.8; 2006-02-23 > Copyright Copyright © 1991-99, 2006 Apple Computer, Inc. Copyright © > 1991-92 Type Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. > Trademark Palatino is a registered trademark of Linotype AG > Enabled Yes > Duplicate No > > PostScript name Times-Bold > Full name Times Bold > Family Times > Style Bold > Kind TrueType > Language English, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Italian, > Norwegian Bokmål, Portuguese, Spanish, Swedish > Version 5.0d10e1 > Location /System/Library/Fonts/Times.dfont > Unique name Times Bold; 5.0d10e1; 2005-01-27 > Copyright © 1990-99 Apple Computer Inc. © 1981 Linotype AG © 1990-91 > Type Solutions Inc. © 1990-91 The Font Bureau Inc. > Trademark Times is a registered trademark of Linotype AG > Enabled Yes > Duplicate No > > PostScript name Helvetica-Bold > Full name Helvetica Bold > Family Helvetica > Style Bold > Kind TrueType > Language English, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Italian, > Portuguese, Spanish, Swedish > Version 3.5a3 > Location /System Folder/Fonts/Helvetica > Unique name Apple Computer Helvetica Bold > Copyright © 1990-99 Apple Computer Inc. © 1981 Linotype AG © 1990-91 > Type Solutions Inc. > Trademark Helvetica is a registered trademark of Linotype AG > Enabled Yes > Duplicate Yes > > > On Fri, Jan 19, 2007, Fiskum, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hello Leigh, >> >> I'm glad that worked... >> >> What type of font was it and who is the manufacturer of the font? >> >> Are you MAC or PC sorry I can't remember? >> >> This happens not only on 1 printer it happens on every printer and 6 >> different machines running different version of OS10.4, it also happens when >> going to PDF (which you can see on screen) and through pre-press rips. This >> is a known bug at MakeMusic that is not being addressed in their releases. >> But I am curious as to why it's working for you... >> >> Steve >> >> > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re(8): [Finale] EPS export - Mac OS X 10.4 - Fin07
Steve, The exported FinMac2007a r3 EPS with these three PostScript fonts printed fine from InDesign and from the PDF generated by Distiller 7.0. :-( **Leigh PostScript name CaflischScriptPro-Regular Full name Caflisch Script Pro Regular Family Caflisch Script Pro Style Regular KindOpenType PostScript LanguageEnglish, Danish, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, Swedish Version OTF 1.010;PS 1.000;Core 1.0.30;makeotf.lib1.4.1030 Location /Library/Fonts/CaflischScriptPro/CaflischScriptPro-Regular.otf Unique name 1.010;ADBE;CaflischScriptPro-Regular DesignerRobert Slimbach Copyright © 1993, 1994, 2001 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All Rights Reserved. Trademark Caflisch Script is either a registered trademark or a trademark of Adobe Systems Incorporated in the United States and/or other countries. Enabled Yes Duplicate No PostScript name BITimesBoldItalic Full name BITimesBoldItalic Family BITimesBoldItalic Style Plain KindPostScript Type1 LanguageEnglish, Danish, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, Swedish Version 001.000 Location/Library/Fonts/BI TimesBoldItalic.bmap Unique name BITimesBoldItalic Copyright Copyright (c) 1985, 1987, 1989, 1990 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All Rights Reserved.Times is a trademark of Linotype AG and/or its subsidiaries. Trademark Copyright (c) 1985, 1987, 1989, 1990 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All Rights Reserved.Times is a trademark of Linotype AG and/or its subsidiaries. Enabled Yes Duplicate No PostScript name HelveticaLyrics Full name HelveticaLyrics Family HelveticaLyrics Style Plain KindPostScript Type1 LanguageEnglish, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, Swedish Version 001.000 Location/Library/Fonts/HelveticaLyrics.bmap Unique name HelveticaLyrics Copyright © 2001 - Bill Duncan, G. William Music Production, Inc. Trademark © 2001 - Bill Duncan, G. William Music Production, Inc. Enabled Yes Duplicate No On Fri, Jan 19, 2007, Fiskum, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hello Leigh, > >The problem is with postscript fonts not TrueType. Your list below is >showing only TrueType. > >That is the main problem. > >Thanks, >Steve > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: Re(8): [Finale] EPS export - Mac OS X 10.4 - Fin07
LOL! I love this. You have found some of the fonts that do work. To be even MORE specific... The problem fonts are Adobe Postscript Type 1 fonts (not OpenType Poscript fonts because OT works). Basically if you had purchased Adobe Fontfolio 8 or purchased newer than ~1993 postcript versions of Times, Palatino, and Helvetica fonts, they will not work work. The version of Times you used below "BITimesBoldItalic" is a much older version of Times. The version of Times that comes with Fontfolio 8 is from 1997 not 1990. Did you grab these from your MAC SE :-) The Helvetica is obviously not an Adobe font so sometimes those work and sometimes they do not. Isn't this fun ;-) OSX fonts and Finale are a real PINA. Steve On 1/19/07 2:31 PM, "Leigh Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve, > > The exported FinMac2007a r3 EPS with these three PostScript fonts > printed fine from InDesign and from the PDF generated by Distiller 7.0. > > :-( > > **Leigh > > > PostScript name CaflischScriptPro-Regular > Full name Caflisch Script Pro Regular > Family Caflisch Script Pro > Style Regular > Kind OpenType PostScript > Language English, Danish, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Portuguese, > Spanish, Swedish > Version OTF 1.010;PS 1.000;Core 1.0.30;makeotf.lib1.4.1030 > Location /Library/Fonts/CaflischScriptPro/CaflischScriptPro-Regular.otf > Unique name 1.010;ADBE;CaflischScriptPro-Regular > Designer Robert Slimbach > Copyright © 1993, 1994, 2001 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All Rights Reserved. > Trademark Caflisch Script is either a registered trademark or a > trademark of Adobe Systems Incorporated in the United States and/or > other countries. > Enabled Yes > Duplicate No > > PostScript name BITimesBoldItalic > Full name BITimesBoldItalic > Family BITimesBoldItalic > Style Plain > Kind PostScript Type1 > Language English, Danish, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Portuguese, > Spanish, Swedish > Version 001.000 > Location /Library/Fonts/BI TimesBoldItalic.bmap > Unique name BITimesBoldItalic > Copyright Copyright (c) 1985, 1987, 1989, 1990 Adobe Systems > Incorporated. All Rights Reserved.Times is a trademark of Linotype AG > and/or its subsidiaries. > Trademark Copyright (c) 1985, 1987, 1989, 1990 Adobe Systems > Incorporated. All Rights Reserved.Times is a trademark of Linotype AG > and/or its subsidiaries. > Enabled Yes > Duplicate No > > PostScript name HelveticaLyrics > Full name HelveticaLyrics > Family HelveticaLyrics > Style Plain > Kind PostScript Type1 > Language English, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Italian, > Portuguese, Spanish, Swedish > Version 001.000 > Location /Library/Fonts/HelveticaLyrics.bmap > Unique name HelveticaLyrics > Copyright © 2001 - Bill Duncan, G. William Music Production, Inc. > Trademark © 2001 - Bill Duncan, G. William Music Production, Inc. > Enabled Yes > Duplicate No > > > On Fri, Jan 19, 2007, Fiskum, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hello Leigh, >> >> The problem is with postscript fonts not TrueType. Your list below is >> showing only TrueType. >> >> That is the main problem. >> >> Thanks, >> Steve >> > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re(10): [Finale] EPS export - Mac OS X 10.4 - Fin07
No, I got them with BIl Duncan's FInale Productivity pack. Sorry I couldn't help, Steve. **Leigh On Fri, Jan 19, 2007, Fiskum, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The version of Times you used below "BITimesBoldItalic" is a much older >version of Times. The version of Times that comes with Fontfolio 8 is from >1997 not 1990. Did you grab these from your MAC SE :-) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: Re(10): [Finale] EPS export - Mac OS X 10.4 - Fin07
Leigh you did help. You helped confirmed a lot of the things I've been saying to MM about this issue which they are aware of. The problem is whether they will do anything about it. Thanks and have a great weekend, Steve On 1/19/07 3:29 PM, "Leigh Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, I got them with BIl Duncan's FInale Productivity pack. > > Sorry I couldn't help, Steve. > > **Leigh > > On Fri, Jan 19, 2007, Fiskum, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The version of Times you used below "BITimesBoldItalic" is a much older >> version of Times. The version of Times that comes with Fontfolio 8 is from >> 1997 not 1990. Did you grab these from your MAC SE :-) > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] mozart (OT)
On 19.01.2007 Andrew Stiller wrote: On Jan 19, 2007, at 3:48 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: You are not implying that he [Kolisch] used a normal strung instrument? That I am absolutely certain was not what he did. What can I say? I saw him do it. And from what I was told about the "why" of it all, I'm not even sure he was left-handed. Sorry, Andrew, I think there may be a misunderstanding. Are you saying that he used a violin with the g string in the normal place, or a violin where the strings were reversed? Surely he had the strings reversed. Actually, I am certain that was the case. The why was an injury in his teens. He was not left handed, but in effect he had the same advantages or disadvantages as a left handed player playing the normal way. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] plugins
This is probably an easy one. How do I get Robert Patterson's plugins and TG plugins to show together in a music file? Thanks; Bob Florence ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] plugins
At 06:39 PM 1/19/2007, Bob Florence wrote: >This is probably an easy one. How do I get Robert Patterson's plugins >and TG plugins to show together in a music file? I'm not sure what you mean here. The plugins are not part of the file; they sit on your hard drive and load along with the application. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] plugins
Aaron Sherber wrote: At 06:39 PM 1/19/2007, Bob Florence wrote: >This is probably an easy one. How do I get Robert Patterson's plugins >and TG plugins to show together in a music file? I'm not sure what you mean here. The plugins are not part of the file; they sit on your hard drive and load along with the application. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Thanks Aaron. I figured it out. Bob F. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] plugins
Bob Florence wrote: This is probably an easy one. How do I get Robert Patterson's plugins and TG plugins to show together in a music file? Thanks; Bob Florence ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale I fixed it. BF ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: Re(2): [Finale] EPS export - Mac OS X 10.4 - Fin07
Somebody wrote: I just did a quick test with FinMac2007a, 10.4.8 and was able to export an EPS with "é" and so on in it without problem. The EPS looked fine in Adobe Illustrator 10 and InDesign CS2. Attachment converted: Howell Ti:msg-3504-2111.txt (TEXT/MSWD) (00187414) Could I request that anyone who has a program that generates these cockamamie msg- attachments PLEASE turn them off. They are a redundant and unnecessary annoyance, like .vcf attachments, and both force every single member of the list to find them and manually trash them, a stupid waste of precious time. Please!! John -- John & Susie Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] EPS export - Mac OS X 10.4 - Fin07
On 07-01-18, at 23:30, Fiskum, Steve wrote: Hello Éric, Let me stray from the EPS subject a bit... I was in your boat for a long time. We were going to keep PageMaker running as long as we could and stick with OS9 files and keep our files in versions 3.5.2 thru 2003 until we came to the conclusion that this was not a viable solution. Yes, it is a band-aid but if I were you, I would not count on MakeMusic prioritizing YOUR upgrade paths for your older files. There priority has never been the upgrading of files...it has always been adding new features with little regard to how files update. For instance, if you open a 3.5.2 file in 2007 you will lose ALL text blocks. If you open the same file in 2006 those text blocks will be there. How long will it be before you will have to re- engrave all of your files because the structure of the program does not allow you to update these older files? The finale files are not the problem, because once the eps are embedded into the pagemaker doc we do not need them anymore, except for occasional correction of mistakes. You mentioned the EPS issues of letters with accents on them not printing out correctly. When I have mentioned issues like these to people at MakeMusic I have said, "It's great to have all of these new features but if I cannot output it correctly what good is the program?" They all seem to agree but nothing ever gets addressed. How in the world can a music notation company release a product that doesn't print EVERYTHING on the screen!!? I just don't understand how they can think this is OK and not fix it immediately? I believe that the folks at MakeMusic simply cannot see the big picture anymore. The are in their things and don't see the most important. It may be a very important factor if the wind turns and that the consensus in the publishing world be that Sibelius is THE choice publishers want. I really woke up in regards to the issue of postscript and Open Type when I started to see Adobe (who created postscript) try to snuff out the EPS format in there apps and will probably continue to do so. If you go on the Adobe forums you can see the many discussions on this subject. This really makes me wonder what Finale is going to do for those of us who create unique page sizes for many different files because they are going to be laid-out in a book or being customized for electronically distributed products. Currently I extract them out as EPS files and they are created into PDFs. I cannot image having to go into Page Setup and creating a large number of custom page sizes before going directly to PDF. This is an issue that needs to be on MakeMusic's radar for the future. There is a real dilemma we all face with the inadequate focus of MakeMusic's development of their software. They do not focus enough on the CORE of the program...they focus too much on the FLUFF. Yes, maybe the FLUFF sells but you can only ride that wave for so long. Eventually your main user base of publishers will decide that they can no longer rely on Finale and have to jump ship to another problematic piece of software (but different) and cross their fingers that this one will listen to the publishers (just like what happened when Finale first came out and everyone was using SCORE). Once they jump ship, they will force their composers and arrangers to use this OTHER piece of software for submissions (which is currently happening in some circles). The only thing that seems to be saving Finale in this area is XML but it's hard to determine how long that will last since they have not rewritten the plug-in documentation since FIN2003 (I think) and that ETFs are no longer an option. When will Sib. stop allowing XML output? This past year I upgraded thousands of octavo and hymnal files to FIN2006 with very little headache. I still had to send it through a proofing process but it was minimal. Using QuicKeys to do most of the work overnight I could come in the next day and all of the files would be ready for tweaking or printing. One of the keys to upgrading these files, which range from 3.5.2 to 2003, was to NEVER update layout. Once you do, you will have a lot of work ahead of you. If you are just upgrading files to keep them in a current OS, change some copyrights, or to just put them in an updated version of the software, then this situation works well. From what I have read and heard, upgrading to InDesign will make a lot of formatting in the text be lost. Then if we have to redo the page layout of all books containing text, proofing them to be sure that no typos or formating errors are stills there, then the cost for upgrading is simply too high. We are a small publisher with a big catalogue, and I don't believe we could afford to have one person working full-time for more than a year to make the transition. We'll have to move on some d
Re: [Finale] Floral Dance
I play in a brass band, and we have played the FLoral Dance. I'll look up the publication info, or if you prefer, I can probably photocopy the score and send it to you. Horace Brock On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:41:51 -0500, you wrote: >Can anyone on the list direct me to a website where I can purchase a >score for Floral Dance? >I heard the music in the "Brassed Off" movie of several years back >and loved it. >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] EPS export - Mac OS X 10.4 - Fin07
Yes. I have seen this band-aid work but personally I don't trust it because you never know when these older fonts just wont work any longer in the OS or with Finale. BTW: The move to InDesign for us was not made with a decision to take a year off and move all of our books over during that year. We integrated the upgrade into our workflow. You should not really need to invest a whole lot of extra time into this change. Yes you may loose a bit of your formatting at first but after a couple of books your designers will know what things need to be tweaked and the process can go pretty quickly. It may seem scary at first but once you get it going no matter how big or small your company is, it will be a big benefit in the future of your company (but look out for the frustration in the first few months). Have a great weekend. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Éric Dussault Sent: Fri 1/19/2007 7:33 PM (btw, following a further response to that thread, would it work if I could find an old enough version of Times, Helvetica, New Century Schoolbook, Modern fonts to export my eps?) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Yes. I have seen this band-aid work but personally I don't trust it because you never know when these older fonts just wont work any longer in the OS or with Finale. BTW: The move to InDesign for us was not made with a decision to take a year off and move all of our books over during that year. We integrated the upgrade into our workflow. You should not really need to invest a whole lot of extra time into this change. Yes you may loose a bit of your formatting at first but after a couple of books your designers will know what things need to be tweaked and the process can go pretty quickly. It may seem scary at first but once you get it going no matter how big or small your company is, it will be a big benefit in the future of your company (but look out for the frustration in the first few months). Have a great weekend. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Éric Dussault Sent: Fri 1/19/2007 7:33 PM (btw, following a further response to that thread, would it work if I could find an old enough version of Times, Helvetica, New Century Schoolbook, Modern fonts to export my eps?) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: Re(2): [Finale] EPS export - Mac OS X 10.4 - Fin07
Sorry John that might be me. I hate those things too. At times I'm writing emails via VPN and Microsoft's Outlook Web Access and these are the times I see more of this. I've looked into my settings and cannot find anything to shut this off and I have a meeting to talk with my IT guy, so please BEAR (G) with me. From now on I'll just post to individuals until I'm sure this issue is fixed. Sorry for bothering your bandwidth everyone. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of John Howell Sent: Fri 1/19/2007 7:33 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: RE: Re(2): [Finale] EPS export - Mac OS X 10.4 - Fin07 >Somebody wrote: >I just did a quick test with FinMac2007a, 10.4.8 and was able to export >an EPS with "é" and so on in it without problem. The EPS looked fine in >Adobe Illustrator 10 and InDesign CS2. > > >Attachment converted: Howell Ti:msg-3504-2111.txt (TEXT/MSWD) (00187414) Could I request that anyone who has a program that generates these cockamamie msg- attachments PLEASE turn them off. They are a redundant and unnecessary annoyance, like .vcf attachments, and both force every single member of the list to find them and manually trash them, a stupid waste of precious time. Please!! John -- John & Susie Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Sorry John that might be me. I hate those things too. At times I'm writing emails via VPN and Microsoft's Outlook Web Access and these are the times I see more of this. I've looked into my settings and cannot find anything to shut this off and I have a meeting to talk with my IT guy, so please BEAR (G) with me. From now on I'll just post to individuals until I'm sure this issue is fixed. Sorry for bothering your bandwidth everyone. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of John Howell Sent: Fri 1/19/2007 7:33 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: RE: Re(2): [Finale] EPS export - Mac OS X 10.4 - Fin07 >Somebody wrote: >I just did a quick test with FinMac2007a, 10.4.8 and was able to export >an EPS with "é" and so on in it without problem. The EPS looked fine in >Adobe Illustrator 10 and InDesign CS2. > > >Attachment converted: Howell Ti:msg-3504-2111.txt (TEXT/MSWD) (00187414) Could I request that anyone who has a program that generates these cockamamie msg- attachments PLEASE turn them off. They are a redundant and unnecessary annoyance, like .vcf attachments, and both force every single member of the list to find them and manually trash them, a stupid waste of precious time. Please!! John -- John & Susie Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: Kolisch (was: mozart)
For most of 1967, I was 20. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ On Jan 19, 2007, at 2:16 PM, Gerald Berg wrote: It's a great story Andrew. You must've been a young fellow. On Jan 19, 2007, at 3:48 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: You are not implying that he [Kolisch] used a normal strung instrument? That I am absolutely certain was not what he did. What can I say? I saw him do it. And from what I was told about the "why" of it all, I'm not even sure he was left-handed. Andrew Stiller ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: Kolisch (was: mozart)
On Jan 19, 2007, at 6:17 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 19.01.2007 Andrew Stiller wrote: On Jan 19, 2007, at 3:48 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: You are not implying that he [Kolisch] used a normal strung instrument? That I am absolutely certain was not what he did. What can I say? I saw him do it. And from what I was told about the "why" of it all, I'm not even sure he was left-handed. Sorry, Andrew, I think there may be a misunderstanding. No, I meant what I said and I said what I meant. To finger a note on the G string, he wrapped his RH all the way around the back of the neck and across all the other strings. There was absolutely no mistaking the appearance of this, and I had discussions about it with several string players of my acquaintance, who marveled at his ability to play *anything* that way. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] irregular rythm
Another way is to actually change the measure to 6/4, and choose a different time sig for display. Choose the Time Signature tool. Click on the first radio button under Measure Region to specify the measures you want to change to 6/4. Click on Options >> Click on Use a Different Time Signature for display using the bars in the *top half* of the dialog box, change the time signature to 6/4. Click OK. This is on WinFin 2k7, but should be the same on other versions. I see this a lot in Hymn music for some reason (I guess time sigs are distracting to singers???) but as an instrumentalist it throws me off not to have the time sig change indicated, even if for just one measure. Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Will Denayer wrote: Could someone please explain to me how I can put 6 quarter notes in a 4/4 measure? I looked it up and thought I knew how to do it, but I am doing something wrong and I end up with things I do not want. 1) Enter the first quarter note in the measure 2) Select the tuplet tool 3) Click on the first note entered in 1) above. 4) Set the values in the tuplet tool dialog box to contain six quarters in the time of four quarters, and close the dialog box 5) Return to your entry method 6) Enter the other five/sixths worth of beats. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
