Re: [Finale] Graphics in FinMac2008
A-NO-NE Music wrote, on 9/17/2007 12:15 PM: Forgive me if this has been already discussed. This graphic issue seems to have so much history and I am getting confused. This is FinMac2k8 on G5 Dual2.5. I work on PC F2K7, but the problem seem about the same. Welcome back to Finale graphics. :) - The Shape Designer GUI is so buggy. Zoom sometime works sometime doesn't. Click n drag handles sometime works sometime doesn't. Once my current position was sent to Y:-900+/X:-109,800+(!!) throwing the object I was drawing unreachable. At that point, there was no way to go back to the null position but to cancel out. What a frustrating tool it became. Same symptoms in 2K7. I have to exit the shape and come back to it because zoom is broken and handles are broken, and the object can't be reached. But if you accept the shape, you can come back to edit it and (for a while, before it goes crazy again) you can edit the shape. - The Group option doesn't keep them together when Horizontally resize. I don't remember this behavior. There's a checkbox (I forget exactly where; I'm not on that computer right now) to allow horizontal stretching. It's checked by default. Uncheck that. - When I have a few text objects in a shape, their positioning is a huge mess. What I create doesn't align on Scroll/Page Views when I get out from the Score Expression. PITA. Yes. became dotted line if I print to PDF, which is the delivery format. This is a problem that I presented here, and no one had a solution. I temporarily solved it by deleting the LAST NON-DOTTED expression just before the dotted problem begins, doing a data check, leaving the document and the program, and restarting. Re-entering the expression that I had deleted now fixed it. BUT IT MAY NOW APPEAR ON SUBSEQUENT PAGES. This is a nasty bug, and takes a lot of work to get around. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Graphics in FinMac2008
[resend; sent from wrong account] A-NO-NE Music wrote, on 9/17/2007 12:15 PM: Forgive me if this has been already discussed. This graphic issue seems to have so much history and I am getting confused. This is FinMac2k8 on G5 Dual2.5. I work on PC F2K7, but the problem seem about the same. Welcome back to Finale graphics. :) - The Shape Designer GUI is so buggy. Zoom sometime works sometime doesn't. Click n drag handles sometime works sometime doesn't. Once my current position was sent to Y:-900+/X:-109,800+(!!) throwing the object I was drawing unreachable. At that point, there was no way to go back to the null position but to cancel out. What a frustrating tool it became. Same symptoms in 2K7. I have to exit the shape and come back to it because zoom is broken and handles are broken, and the object can't be reached. But if you accept the shape, you can come back to edit it and (for a while, before it goes crazy again) you can edit the shape. - The Group option doesn't keep them together when Horizontally resize. I don't remember this behavior. There's a checkbox (I forget exactly where; I'm not on that computer right now) to allow horizontal stretching. It's checked by default. Uncheck that. - When I have a few text objects in a shape, their positioning is a huge mess. What I create doesn't align on Scroll/Page Views when I get out from the Score Expression. PITA. Yes. became dotted line if I print to PDF, which is the delivery format. This is a problem that I presented here, and no one had a solution. I temporarily solved it by deleting the LAST NON-DOTTED expression just before the dotted problem begins, doing a data check, leaving the document and the program, and restarting. Re-entering the expression that I had deleted now fixed it. BUT IT MAY NOW APPEAR ON SUBSEQUENT PAGES. This is a nasty bug, and takes a lot of work to get around. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] uncommon tuplet
The manual says: If you want to create an uncommon tuplet—such as 11 in the space of 2—press ctrl-1. The Tuplet Definition dialog box appears, in which you can specify exactly what kind of tuplet you’re about to create.) Bt this doesn't seem to work, it rather sets the magnification to 100%! How do I access the special tuplets db? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] uncommon tuplet
Barbara Touburg wrote: The manual says: If you want to create an uncommon tuplet-such as 11 in the space of 2-press ctrl-1. The Tuplet Definition dialog box appears, in which you can specify exactly what kind of tuplet you're about to create.) Bt this doesn't seem to work, it rather sets the magnification to 100%! How do I access the special tuplets db? It's been option-1 on the Mac as long as I can remember. Is it really supposed to be ctrl-1 in Windows? -Randolph Peters ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Wishlist for Finale 2009
All I want in the next version is bug fixes. Bug fixes. Bug fixes. And that means not only the things that don't work, but also the things that seem to work, but then don't when you need them most. Engraver slurs for instance. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Wishlist for Finale 2009
On 18-Sep-07, at 12:15 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: All I want in the next version is bug fixes. Bug fixes. Bug fixes. And that means not only the things that don't work, but also the things that seem to work, but then don't when you need them most. Engraver slurs for instance. And dancing articulations. And staff expressions with graphics that never position properly onscreen or in print. And repeat ending lines that won't allow themselves to be adjusted in parts when there is a multimeasure rest under them. But basically, yes, absolutely. Bug fixes. Yup. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] uncommon tuplet
Barbara Touburg wrote, on 9/18/2007 11:33 AM: If you want to create an uncommon tuplet—such as 11 in the space of 2—press ctrl-1. The Tuplet Definition dialog box appears, in which you can specify exactly what kind of tuplet you’re about to create.) Bt this doesn't seem to work, it rather sets the magnification to 100%! How do I access the special tuplets db? This works in 2K7, so I think it's one of the keyboard shortcuts they broke in 2K8 (which I don't have). The other way is to enter no tuplet in Speedy, exit Speedy and ignore the measure-too-full message, enter the tuplet tool and click the note. That brings up the tuplet definition box. The long way around. :( Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] uncommon tuplet
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: This works in 2K7, so I think it's one of the keyboard shortcuts they broke in 2K8 (which I don't have). Ah. I'll pose a question at Makemusic's. The other way is to enter no tuplet in Speedy, exit Speedy and ignore the measure-too-full message, enter the tuplet tool and click the note. That brings up the tuplet definition box. I knew that one! The long way around. :( Yeah yeah, I know. Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Wishlist for Finale 2009
I completely agree with Johannes here. I haven't moved up to 2K8 and I'm not going to until the bugs are fixed. That decision doesn't bode well for me and Finale, and I know it, but so be it. I'm wrestling with a lot of file corruption in 2K7 and it's frustrating. I don't want any more new features. Just make what we have work, and work correctly. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Sep 18, 2007, at 9:15 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: All I want in the next version is bug fixes. Bug fixes. Bug fixes. And that means not only the things that don't work, but also the things that seem to work, but then don't when you need them most. Engraver slurs for instance. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] uncommon tuplet
Hi Barbara, This is a shortcut that works in the speedy entry frame , I believe. Dan At 11:33 AM 9/18/2007, you wrote: The manual says: If you want to create an uncommon tupletsuch as 11 in the space of 2press ctrl-1. The Tuplet Definition dialog box appears, in which you can specify exactly what kind of tuplet youre about to create.) Bt this doesn't seem to work, it rather sets the magnification to 100%! How do I access the special tuplets db? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Daniel Carno Music Engraving Services Quality work in Sibelius, Finale, and Score 4514 Makyes Road Syracuse, New York 13215 (315) 492-2987 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Wishlist for Finale 2009
I definitely concur, provided bug fixes includes finishing the job on Linked Parts. Finale has many good features that are half-finished or incompletely implemented, but that is by far the most frustrating one because it is potentially so very useful. I still can't quite believe it got no attention whatsoever in Fin2008. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 18 Sep 2007, at 1:50 PM, ThomaStudios wrote: I completely agree with Johannes here. I haven't moved up to 2K8 and I'm not going to until the bugs are fixed. That decision doesn't bode well for me and Finale, and I know it, but so be it. I'm wrestling with a lot of file corruption in 2K7 and it's frustrating. I don't want any more new features. Just make what we have work, and work correctly. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Sep 18, 2007, at 9:15 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: All I want in the next version is bug fixes. Bug fixes. Bug fixes. And that means not only the things that don't work, but also the things that seem to work, but then don't when you need them most. Engraver slurs for instance. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] uncommon tuplet
Hi Barbara, This is a shortcut that works in the speedy entry frame , I believe. Oops! Works fine in Fin 2007; not at all in Fin 2008. (imagine my surprise!) Sorry! Dan At 11:33 AM 9/18/2007, you wrote: The manual says: If you want to create an uncommon tupletsuch as 11 in the space of 2press ctrl-1. The Tuplet Definition dialog box appears, in which you can specify exactly what kind of tuplet youre about to create.) Bt this doesn't seem to work, it rather sets the magnification to 100%! How do I access the special tuplets db? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Daniel Carno Music Engraving Services Quality work in Sibelius, Finale, and Score 4514 Makyes Road Syracuse, New York 13215 (315) 492-2987 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] uncommon tuplet
At 02:55 PM 9/18/2007, Dan Carno wrote: This is a shortcut that works in the speedy entry frame , I believe. Oops! Works fine in Fin 2007; not at all in Fin 2008. (imagine my surprise!) This is a known bug on WinFin. However, the bug only affects the 1 key on the keyboard. If you press Ctrl-NumPad 1, the dialog box appears as expected. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] uncommon tuplet
Aaron Sherber wrote: At 02:55 PM 9/18/2007, Dan Carno wrote: This is a shortcut that works in the speedy entry frame , I believe. Oops! Works fine in Fin 2007; not at all in Fin 2008. (imagine my surprise!) This is a known bug on WinFin. However, the bug only affects the 1 key on the keyboard. If you press Ctrl-NumPad 1, the dialog box appears as expected. Aaron. Aah! Many thanks, Aaron! Where did you learn this? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
AW: [Finale] uncommon tuplet
Sorry for jumping in. I learned it - as certainly Aaron as well - by doing, and when it did not work, by guessing and trial. It is just as in ZEN, the way is the goal (?) (Der Weg ist das Ziel). So Finale - while not making our lives easier - is providing a way to nirvana? And holy Finale might be the way to our own enlightenment? Sorry, just feeling sarcastic. Kurt -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Barbara Touburg Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. September 2007 22:31 An: finale@shsu.edu Betreff: Re: [Finale] uncommon tuplet Aaron Sherber wrote: At 02:55 PM 9/18/2007, Dan Carno wrote: This is a shortcut that works in the speedy entry frame , I believe. Oops! Works fine in Fin 2007; not at all in Fin 2008. (imagine my surprise!) This is a known bug on WinFin. However, the bug only affects the 1 key on the keyboard. If you press Ctrl-NumPad 1, the dialog box appears as expected. Aaron. Aah! Many thanks, Aaron! Where did you learn this? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
AW: [Finale] Wishlist for Finale 2009
Ok. I agree. Bug fixes are important. Or better - only to bring new functions into Finale if they are bug free. (Can't remember any)...;-) BUT - Linked parts are working *quite* fine for me and are a lot better than extract parts. The engraver slurs may be unconsistent but hey - remember the times you had to fine-tune *every* slur by hand? (I do) I *really* miss the file compatibility most because I do a lot of stuff in teams - projects for choir, for band, and it was so much easier if we could exchange and open our files instead of relying on PDFs and starting from scratch, or going through the pains of using midi files (they ARE a pain if you have to use them with Finale). It would be *so* nice if you could just open it on any computer having an adequate software running, as you can with doc-file or power-point-files, or PDFs. That would be the sign of real professionality for me. While I find most of the new stuff of the last 10 years not important for my work, it is certainly significant that Make Music (Coda) do/did not do their homework. At the moment there don't even exists a Finale Notepad 2008, so nobody but Finale 2008 users can use my files. And I would like to open it in every PC, MAC, PocketPC, Cellular Phone, Windows Mobile, Linux, Unix, Next, Atari, Amiga and Commodore C-64. Nah, sorry, I'm just being frustrated - I'm contended if I can open them on any actual PC or Mac using Finale or Sibelius. Kurt -- |\\ |// /| Kurt Gnos http://www.gnos.org / |_ Alte Baarerst. 1 Tel. /Fax +41 41 710 61 73 ( (| \\ CH-6300 Zug Mobile: +41 79 460 59 37 \_|_// Switzerland E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | \\/ -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Darcy James Argue Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. September 2007 21:31 An: finale@shsu.edu Betreff: Re: [Finale] Wishlist for Finale 2009 I definitely concur, provided bug fixes includes finishing the job on Linked Parts. Finale has many good features that are half-finished or incompletely implemented, but that is by far the most frustrating one because it is potentially so very useful. I still can't quite believe it got no attention whatsoever in Fin2008. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 18 Sep 2007, at 1:50 PM, ThomaStudios wrote: I completely agree with Johannes here. I haven't moved up to 2K8 and I'm not going to until the bugs are fixed. That decision doesn't bode well for me and Finale, and I know it, but so be it. I'm wrestling with a lot of file corruption in 2K7 and it's frustrating. I don't want any more new features. Just make what we have work, and work correctly. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Sep 18, 2007, at 9:15 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: All I want in the next version is bug fixes. Bug fixes. Bug fixes. And that means not only the things that don't work, but also the things that seem to work, but then don't when you need them most. Engraver slurs for instance. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
AW: [Finale] Wishlist for Finale 2009
You don't have to wait. While I find that new bugs come with every new version of Finale, good things come as well. So I update at once. You don't have to hope the old bugs will be fixed, neither in your old or the new version. But you get some goodies anyway. So its a winner situation, if not absolutely. The new menu structures and the new combined move/arrow tool are a timesaver. Point. I would also like the old bugs getting fixed first, but hell I've been using Finale for almost 20 years, and I know they won't. So I've been getting used to switch to the new version, find or use new or the old workarounds for certain bugs and appreciate some refinements that hopefully work. It's almost like religion. You don't have to wait. You have to believe or at least find a way between given facts and your own believes - it's a compromise. Sorry, just being spiritual. Kurt -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von ThomaStudios Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. September 2007 19:51 An: finale@shsu.edu Betreff: Re: [Finale] Wishlist for Finale 2009 I completely agree with Johannes here. I haven't moved up to 2K8 and I'm not going to until the bugs are fixed. That decision doesn't bode well for me and Finale, and I know it, but so be it. I'm wrestling with a lot of file corruption in 2K7 and it's frustrating. I don't want any more new features. Just make what we have work, and work correctly. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Sep 18, 2007, at 9:15 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: All I want in the next version is bug fixes. Bug fixes. Bug fixes. And that means not only the things that don't work, but also the things that seem to work, but then don't when you need them most. Engraver slurs for instance. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] uncommon tuplet
dc wrote: Aaron Sherber écrit: This is a known bug on WinFin. Known by whom? Is there a list of known bugs anywhere? I imagine it quite lengthy... It was discussed on this list about a month or so ago, when I brought it up, being surprised that the old ctrl-3 (top row) didn't work for triplets. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: AW: [Finale] Wishlist for Finale 2009
Kurt Gnos wrote: At the moment there don't even exists a Finale Notepad 2008, so nobody but Finale 2008 users can use my files. If history repeats itself, Finale Notepad 2k8 will be forthcoming in the next few weeks. I *really* miss the file compatibility most because I do a lot of stuff in teams - projects for choir, for band, and it was so much easier if we could exchange and open our files instead of relying on PDFs and starting from scratch, or going through the pains of using midi files (they ARE a pain if you have to use them with Finale). It would be *so* nice if you could just open it on any computer having an adequate software running, as you can with doc-file or power-point-files, or PDFs. That would be the sign of real professionality for me. ... I'm [content] if I can open them on any actual PC or Mac using Finale or Sibelius. Well you can, using the facilities of Music XML, and while at one time Finale files were open enough that Sibelius was able to read some Finale files, Sibelius has always used a proprietary data format, and to my knowledge has never released it, behavior that Finale is unfortunately coming to mimic. Light version of music XML has been shipped with Finale for several releases, but I don't know about S~. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] uncommon tuplet
I'm really bringing in an Emporer's New Clothes thought. If Finale (i.e. Make Music, or Coda, or whatever) have a list of all these known bugs, why don't they bring out one huge 'update' which fixes ALL these well documented and long-known bugs? Or am I being too simplistic? Or are they not fixable? By the way, since I'm years behind with updates most of these bugs don't seem to 'bug' me! It just seems all you folk who use Finale professionally or even semi-pro, and pay for the right to do so are being ripped off! Cheers anyway- keep the faith! Keith in OZ Keith Helgesen. Ph: (02) 62910787. Mob 0417-042171 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dhbailey Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2007 8:23 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] uncommon tuplet dc wrote: Aaron Sherber écrit: This is a known bug on WinFin. Known by whom? Is there a list of known bugs anywhere? I imagine it quite lengthy... It was discussed on this list about a month or so ago, when I brought it up, being surprised that the old ctrl-3 (top row) didn't work for triplets. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Slightly OT: Paper weight
On Sep 18, 2007, at 7:12 PM, Adam Taylor wrote: I've seen discussions on this list about binding of score and parts, as well as printing of parts. I was just wondering what weight of paper people here think is the best for printing score and parts for a concert band work. Regular paper just feels too light for me. You are right to think that regular paper is too thin. It falls down too easily and doesn't last long in folders of music that are played often. I have settled on some paper that I ordered specially in conjunction with a local orchestra librarian. It is 70 lb./140M cream colour, smooth finish. I read off the label another number that I think is just another way of describing the thickness, that is 13.75M, or 104g per square metre. This manufacturer is a Canadian one, Rockland, but I am pretty sure you can find paper like this just about anywhere. I find that this paper (even though it says smooth) is not too smooth for my printer rollers to choke on it (which is a problem I found with the paper I bought at Staples (Bureau en Gros in Québec)). Another paper that I bought a lot of unfortunately was TOO rough, and wouldn't bake on the laser ink properly. This paper is perfect, though. I still have to feed it through the straight paper path of my printer, but that is a small price to pay for robust, beautiful paper that is easy on the eyes. I could put up with slightly thinner paper for a score, though. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Slightly OT: Paper weight
I've seen discussions on this list about binding of score and parts, as well as printing of parts. I was just wondering what weight of paper people here think is the best for printing score and parts for a concert band work. Regular paper just feels too light for me. Thanks, Adam ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Slightly OT: Paper weight
I've seen discussions on this list about binding of score and parts, as well as printing of parts. I was just wondering what weight of paper people here think is the best for printing score and parts for a concert band work. Regular paper just feels too light for me. Thanks, Adam I use a minimum of 28 lb. bond (105 g/m2). Regular paper is 20 lb. bond (75 g/m2) and is not only flimsy, it allows too much see-through from double-sided printing. Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: AW: [Finale] Wishlist for Finale 2009
Sibelius will read XML but a plug-in must be bought to write XML. A pain. However, Sibelius 5 will read and write in Sibelius 4, 3 2 formats. I now use Sibelius 5 and manage site licenses in my school district for both Sibelius 4 3. File sharing is not a problem and our older machines are able to run a version that suits them. My latest Finale is 2005. I really need an upgrade but folks on this list complain so much that I just soldier on with 05 :). However, I understand that currently Finale will not write to previous formats. I can not imagine why. That strikes me as just more of the arm twisting that MM does to make sure they renew your yearly subscription. Richard Smith www.rgsmithmusic.com Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Kurt Gnos wrote: At the moment there don't even exists a Finale Notepad 2008, so nobody but Finale 2008 users can use my files. If history repeats itself, Finale Notepad 2k8 will be forthcoming in the next few weeks. I *really* miss the file compatibility most because I do a lot of stuff in teams - projects for choir, for band, and it was so much easier if we could exchange and open our files instead of relying on PDFs and starting from scratch, or going through the pains of using midi files (they ARE a pain if you have to use them with Finale). It would be *so* nice if you could just open it on any computer having an adequate software running, as you can with doc-file or power-point-files, or PDFs. That would be the sign of real professionality for me. ... I'm [content] if I can open them on any actual PC or Mac using Finale or Sibelius. Well you can, using the facilities of Music XML, and while at one time Finale files were open enough that Sibelius was able to read some Finale files, Sibelius has always used a proprietary data format, and to my knowledge has never released it, behavior that Finale is unfortunately coming to mimic. Light version of music XML has been shipped with Finale for several releases, but I don't know about S~. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
