Re: [Finale] erratic word extensions

2008-05-29 Thread jd IMAP
Word extensions in Finale are horribly erratic.  Kind of following the  
pattern of the entire application IYAM.  Whether I use manual or  
smart, they never have worked.  I'm on FinMac 2k7 BTW.


J D  Thomas
ThomaStudios

On May 29, 2008, at 9:36 AM, dc wrote:

I have a score with many long melismas, several of which finish on  
the first note of a new system. When I create the word extensions  
(with TGT), some of these last notes have the extension and some  
don't, without my being able to see any reason. Among those that  
don't have the extension, some can be clicked on and allow me to  
lengthen the word extension. Others don't even offer this  
possibility. Any ideas on how I could get these word extensions to  
show up?


Thanks,

Dennis


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[Finale] error message on TIFF insert-- any way to work around?

2008-05-29 Thread MB
I have repeatedly tried to insert graphics that have been saved as 
NON-compressed TIF files (originally MS Paint bitmaps, then converted to tiffs 
in either Irfanview or MS Photo Editor).nbsp; 

No matter what, I still get a message saying Finale doesn't support LZW 
compressed graphics.nbsp; If I try resaving the graphic in formats such as 
8-bit, 256 colors, gray scale, etc., etc., it doesn't seem to matter, and 
eventually Finale hangs.nbsp; 

Do any of you have any suggestions on this?nbsp; (FinWin 2008)

Thanks in advance.
Marilyn




  
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Re: [Finale] erratic word extensions

2008-05-29 Thread Christopher Smith


On May 29, 2008, at 12:36 PM, dc wrote:

I have a score with many long melismas, several of which finish on  
the first note of a new system. When I create the word extensions  
(with TGT), some of these last notes have the extension and some  
don't, without my being able to see any reason. Among those that  
don't have the extension, some can be clicked on and allow me to  
lengthen the word extension. Others don't even offer this  
possibility. Any ideas on how I could get these word extensions to  
show up?


I get some unusual behaviour with word extensions sometimes, too.  
What I do to force an extension over a system break (also after a  
second ending) is the same thing I used to do before smart extensions  
and TG Tools.


I enter an option-space as a lyric on the syllable starting the new  
system (PC users will need to know the alt code for the non-breaking  
space character). This lyric will have it's own word extension that I  
can edit manually. I will need to nudge this character a bit to the  
left so the word extension starts at the left boundary of the note.


Yup, it's a kludge. But I only have to do it a couple of times per  
choral arrangement now, whereas I used to do it on almost EVERY  
system break.


Christopher



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Re: [Finale] error message on TIFF insert-- any way to work around?

2008-05-29 Thread Christopher Smith


On May 29, 2008, at 2:07 PM, MB wrote:

I have repeatedly tried to insert graphics that have been saved as  
NON-compressed TIF files (originally MS Paint bitmaps, then  
converted to tiffs in either Irfanview or MS Photo Editor).nbsp;


No matter what, I still get a message saying Finale doesn't support  
LZW compressed graphics.nbsp; If I try resaving the graphic in  
formats such as 8-bit, 256 colors, gray scale, etc., etc., it  
doesn't seem to matter, and eventually Finale hangs.nbsp;


Do any of you have any suggestions on this?nbsp; (FinWin 2008)

Thanks in advance.
Marilyn


Are you ABSOLUTELY certain that they are really uncompressed? That  
would be my first bet.


My second bet is that Finale is choking on your files in error.  
Importing them into a different image editor and re-saving might  
clean them up so Finale feels comfortable with them.


Have you been in contact with tech support about this? I have  
basically given up on graphics because of the problems importing,  
positioning and printing them to PDF or EPS. They should know in  
detail what the problem is. Lean on them to come up with a solution,  
because if the tech guys are wasting a lot of time dealing with a  
bug, they will be more likely to fix it later. And who knows, they  
might even have a solution!


Christopher

(P.S., send one of the graphics along to me privately and I'll see if  
I can import it into one of my files.)



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Re: [Finale] error message on TIFF insert-- any way to work around?

2008-05-29 Thread Cecil Rigby
MS Photo Editor won't open bitmapped pictures (on my XP system, at least).

Save the file from bmp to jpg first (try something other than Irfanview and see 
whether yo get better results), and then use MS Photo Editor to save it as tif. 
before saving, click on the More... button and make sure LZW compression isn't 
selected.

I just did a handful of these today and had no problem.

YMMV, apparently, if you've tried this.

Cecil Rigby
Harrock Hall Music
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  I have repeatedly tried to insert graphics that have been saved as 
NON-compressed TIF files (originally MS Paint bitmaps, then converted to tiffs 
in either Irfanview or MS Photo Editor).nbsp; 

  No matter what, I still get a message saying Finale doesn't support LZW 
compressed graphics.nbsp
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[Finale] 2009 rumors

2008-05-29 Thread Ryan Beard
Anybody heard any?
I got an email from MakeMusic today offering 2008 at a
lower price until May 31. I know offers like these
come and go, but I'm hoping that it indicates the
availability of 2009 around the corner...
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[Finale] O.T. ERM Media now distributed by Naxos

2008-05-29 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
Hi all:

I know a lot of modern composers are on the list. I noticed that ERM
is now being distributed by Naxos USA, making a lot of their CDS much
more available. My personal favorite is a String Quartet by Roger
Rudenstein dealing with President Bush called The Nightmare of
Reason :)

Thanks
Kim

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Re: [Finale] 2009 rumors

2008-05-29 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Dunno. They better have them t-shirts ready. That is really the only reason
to upgrade. It's not like they'd add any features that are worth anything,
or fix any bugs.

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Ryan Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anybody heard any?
 I got an email from MakeMusic today offering 2008 at a
 lower price until May 31. I know offers like these
 come and go, but I'm hoping that it indicates the
 availability of 2009 around the corner...
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Re: [Finale] error message on TIFF insert-- any way to work around?

2008-05-29 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Thu, May 29, 2008 2:07 pm, MB wrote:
 I have repeatedly tried to insert graphics that have been saved as
 NON-compressed TIF files (originally MS Paint bitmaps, then converted to
 tiffs in either Irfanview or MS Photo Editor).nbsp;
 No matter what, I still get a message saying Finale doesn't support LZW
 compressed graphics.nbsp; If I try resaving the graphic in formats such
 as 8-bit, 256 colors, gray scale, etc., etc., it doesn't seem to matter,
 and eventually Finale hangs.nbsp;

I do not have 2008, but in 2007 there is no problem inserting uncompressed
TIFFs. If you would like to send me an example of one of these privately,
I will check to see if it works in 2007.

Dennis




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Re: [Finale] error message on TIFF insert-- any way to work around?

2008-05-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 May 2008 at 15:32, Cecil Rigby wrote:

 Save the file from bmp to jpg first (try something other than Irfanview
 and see whether yo get better results), and then use MS Photo Editor to
 save it as tif. before saving, click on the More... button and make sure
 LZW compression isn't selected.

JPG is a terrible format for non-photographic graphics. It's lossy 
compression, and will be blurry.

Get some graphics program that can deal with bitmaps and TIFs 
directly (there are plenty of them), and avoid any conversions to 
intermediate formats.


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Re: [Finale] error message on TIFF insert-- any way to work around?

2008-05-29 Thread Cecil Rigby
if I start with a 600 dpi or better jpg I don't have this problem- but I 
normally am reducing them as much as 75% within Finale, too-
so, as with all things, YMMV.

-Cecil
  - Original Message - 
  From: David W. Fenton 
  To: finale@shsu.edu 
  Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [Finale] error message on TIFF insert-- any way to work around?


  On 29 May 2008 at 15:32, Cecil Rigby wrote:

   Save the file from bmp to jpg first (try something other than Irfanview
   and see whether yo get better results), and then use MS Photo Editor to
   save it as tif. before saving, click on the More... button and make sure
   LZW compression isn't selected.

  JPG is a terrible format for non-photographic graphics. It's lossy 
  compression, and will be blurry.

  Get some graphics program that can deal with bitmaps and TIFs 
  directly (there are plenty of them), and avoid any conversions to 
  intermediate formats.


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Re: [Finale] mezzo voce

2008-05-29 Thread Christopher Smith


On May 29, 2008, at 4:56 PM, dc wrote:


Is there an English equivalent for mezzo voce?



Half-voice is what I always used. Maybe without the hyphen (I tend  
to put them in too often!)


Christopher


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[Finale] turn page arrow

2008-05-29 Thread Mark McCarron
sometimes I want a title page with a big arrow to turn
the page. What font will give me the arrow?

Mark McCarron
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Re: [Finale] turn page arrow

2008-05-29 Thread Christopher Smith


On May 29, 2008, at 5:04 PM, Mark McCarron wrote:


sometimes I want a title page with a big arrow to turn
the page. What font will give me the arrow?



Well.

I spent a lot of time on this. Because Finale doesn't support  
Unicode, many of the really great arrows in many fonts just are not  
available, unless you import them as a graphic, which has it's own  
problems. Email me privately if you want my TIFF of a nice arrow.


Try one of the symbol fonts. You don't say Mac or PC, but Zapf  
Dingbats has some. Use the Character Palette application on Mac to  
find arrows in every font on your system.


The Bill Duncan Productivity Package has a nice V.S. with an embedded  
curved arrow as well, but you probably don't own that.


Christopher


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Re: [Finale] turn page arrow

2008-05-29 Thread dhbailey

Mark McCarron wrote:

sometimes I want a title page with a big arrow to turn
the page. What font will give me the arrow?

Mark McCarron
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Christopher Smith has offered helpful advice -- I am merely curious 
about this.


Why would you want a page-turn arrow on a title page?

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Re: [Finale] turn page arrow

2008-05-29 Thread Barbara Touburg

Windings 2 and 3.

Mark McCarron wrote:

sometimes I want a title page with a big arrow to turn
the page. What font will give me the arrow?

Mark McCarron
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RE: [Finale] 2009 rumors

2008-05-29 Thread Scott Jones
I got a survey email from Makemusic which stated there would be a winner
drawn for a free upgrade to 2009 but would not get the upgrade until
after 2009 is shipped later this summer.

QUOTE
Dear Finale User,

Thank you for purchasing FinaleR. We hope you are enjoying writing music
and hearing your compositions come to life.

We are very interested in learning more about your interest in Finale.
If you'll take a few minutes to answer a brief survey about Finale, and
do so by June 20, 2008, we'll enter you into a drawing for a free
upgrade to FinaleR 2009.*

Simply click on the link below to take our survey.
 http://www.makemusic.com/survey2/?id=29
http://www.makemusic.com/survey2/?id=29

(If you have trouble accessing the link above, please make sure you are
copying the entire link into your web browser.)

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,


Mary Schneider
Chief Marketing Officer
MakeMusic
7615 Golden Triangle Drive, Suite M
Eden Prairie, MN 55344-3848

*The winner will be notified before Finale 2009 is released but will not
be shipped the free upgrade until the actual release date later in the
summer.
END QUOTE

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Eric Dannewitz
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:54 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] 2009 rumors


Dunno. They better have them t-shirts ready. That is really the only
reason to upgrade. It's not like they'd add any features that are worth
anything, or fix any bugs.

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Ryan Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

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 I got an email from MakeMusic today offering 2008 at a
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Re: [Finale] 2009 rumors

2008-05-29 Thread Christopher Smith

Thanks, man!

I took the survey. Anything to save the cost of upgrading yet again.

One of the questions asked, Where do you go for technical support?  
One of the possible answers was the user manual (snicker), but  
notably missing was The Finale Listserve. Don't they know where  
their power users are?


Another question asked how soon after the announcement of a new  
version do I upgrade. There wasn't an option for I buy it right away  
to save 20%, then don't use it for six months until the bug update  
comes out (like Finale 2007 and 2008), if at all (shades of  
FinMac2004).


I hope this answers some questions for them.

Christopher



On May 29, 2008, at 5:57 PM, Scott Jones wrote:

I got a survey email from Makemusic which stated there would be a  
winner

drawn for a free upgrade to 2009 but would not get the upgrade until
after 2009 is shipped later this summer.

QUOTE
Dear Finale User,

Thank you for purchasing FinaleR. We hope you are enjoying writing  
music

and hearing your compositions come to life.

We are very interested in learning more about your interest in Finale.
If you'll take a few minutes to answer a brief survey about Finale,  
and

do so by June 20, 2008, we'll enter you into a drawing for a free
upgrade to FinaleR 2009.*

Simply click on the link below to take our survey.
 http://www.makemusic.com/survey2/?id=29
http://www.makemusic.com/survey2/?id=29

(If you have trouble accessing the link above, please make sure you  
are

copying the entire link into your web browser.)

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,


Mary Schneider
Chief Marketing Officer
MakeMusic
7615 Golden Triangle Drive, Suite M
Eden Prairie, MN 55344-3848

*The winner will be notified before Finale 2009 is released but  
will not

be shipped the free upgrade until the actual release date later in the
summer.
END QUOTE


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Re: [Finale] Update on Internat'l Music Score Library Project

2008-05-29 Thread Cecil Rigby

David asked:
I wonder if it [IMSLP] will be as comprehensive?


the online FAQ is pretty comprehensive.( http://imslp.wikidot.com/faq )

I find this to be the most interesting point (because Universal Editions 
sent the Cease  Desist letter that ultimately closed IMSLP down):


10. Will there be any changes from the original main site?
There will be some changes, but mostly everything will be kept the same. No 
score will be removed due to Universal Edition demands.


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Re: [Finale] Update on Internat'l Music Score Library Project

2008-05-29 Thread Christopher Smith


On May 29, 2008, at 8:54 PM, Cecil Rigby wrote:


David asked:
I wonder if it [IMSLP] will be as comprehensive?


the online FAQ is pretty comprehensive.( http:// 
imslp.wikidot.com/faq )


I find this to be the most interesting point (because Universal  
Editions sent the Cease  Desist letter that ultimately closed  
IMSLP down):


10. Will there be any changes from the original main site?
There will be some changes, but mostly everything will be kept the  
same. No score will be removed due to Universal Edition demands.


That last bit is great. UE was frankly bullying the poor guy, and he  
got the free help (fairly muscular, too, by the sounds of it) to  
stand up to them. Good on him! He and his pals deserve our support  
and encouragement.


Christopher



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Re: [Finale] 2009 rumors - now survey

2008-05-29 Thread Ray Horton

Christopher Smith wrote:

Thanks, man!

I took the survey. Anything to save the cost of upgrading yet again.

One of the questions asked, Where do you go for technical support? 
One of the possible answers was the user manual (snicker), but 
notably missing was The Finale Listserve. Don't they know where 
their power users are?




Exactly.  I tried to skip that question, since this list is pretty much 
the only place I get significant help, but the survey wouldn't let me.  
I ultimately selected Friends (I hope that includes everyone here, 
even David W.!). 



I was going to post the link to the survey yesterday (when I received 
the invitation) for everyone here, but since the survey had crawled and 
crashed on me a couple of times I decided it best not to share.  Today 
was much better.



Raymond Horton


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Re: [Finale] 2009 rumors - now survey

2008-05-29 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Thu, May 29, 2008 9:48 pm, Ray Horton wrote:
 Exactly.  I tried to skip that question, since this list is pretty much
 the only place I get significant help, but the survey wouldn't let me.
 I ultimately selected Friends (I hope that includes everyone here,
 even David W.!).

I did *exactly* the same thing yesterday (once I could get through -- the
server was swamped right after the email arrived).

Funny. I wonder how they'll evaluate that survey. :)

Dennis



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Re: [Finale] 2009 rumors - now survey

2008-05-29 Thread Ray Horton

I'm with you, friend.

RBH

Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:

On Thu, May 29, 2008 9:48 pm, Ray Horton wrote:
  

Exactly.  I tried to skip that question, since this list is pretty much
the only place I get significant help, but the survey wouldn't let me.
I ultimately selected Friends (I hope that includes everyone here,
even David W.!).



I did *exactly* the same thing yesterday (once I could get through -- the
server was swamped right after the email arrived).

Funny. I wonder how they'll evaluate that survey. :)

Dennis


  


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Re: [Finale] 2009 rumors - now survey

2008-05-29 Thread Carl Dershem

Ray Horton wrote:

Christopher Smith wrote:

Thanks, man!

I took the survey. Anything to save the cost of upgrading yet again.

One of the questions asked, Where do you go for technical support? 
One of the possible answers was the user manual (snicker), but 
notably missing was The Finale Listserve. Don't they know where 
their power users are?




Exactly.  I tried to skip that question, since this list is pretty much 
the only place I get significant help, but the survey wouldn't let me.  
I ultimately selected Friends (I hope that includes everyone here, 
even David W.!).


I was going to post the link to the survey yesterday (when I received 
the invitation) for everyone here, but since the survey had crawled and 
crashed on me a couple of times I decided it best not to share.  Today 
was much better.


It also crashed on me when I took it, and it never finished.  I doubt 
it'd be worth the effort to try again, considering how little they seem 
to have put into making it work.


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Re: [Finale] Update on Internat'l Music Score Library Project

2008-05-29 Thread David McKay
Great! Thanks Cecil.
David McKay

2008/5/30 Cecil Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 David asked:
 I wonder if it [IMSLP] will be as comprehensive?
 

 the online FAQ is pretty comprehensive.( http://imslp.wikidot.com/faq)

 I find this to be the most interesting point (because Universal Editions
 sent the Cease  Desist letter that ultimately closed IMSLP down):

 10. Will there be any changes from the original main site?
 There will be some changes, but mostly everything will be kept the same. No
 score will be removed due to Universal Edition demands.

 -Cecil Rigby
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