[Finale] annotation files
MacFin 2008 r2 OS10.5 I opened a piece I did about 3 weeks ago and got the message Font annotation files cannot be found. Parts have been generated and printed. Now the accents and slurs are way out of position. I can't understand what's happened. Any ideas?? Also I've added an extra stave and can't figure out how to generate a part for this without undoing the other generated parts ?? Stan Lord ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] joining layers
On 06.10.2008 Noel Stoutenburg wrote: The way I've done it in the past: ...is pretty much the way I did it in the end, thanks. It seems odd that such a simple thing is not included in the mass edit functions. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] the musicians had higher IQ scores than the non-musicians
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found the article on study interesting (no I have not read the original paper, it's not yet published). The abstract and outline of the paper are available on-line (cf: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL_udi=B6WBY-4T8R1W1-1_user=10_coverDate=08%2F23%2F2008_alid=800672989_rdoc=1_fmt=high_orig=search_cdi=6723_sort=d_docanchor=view=c_ct=1_acct=C50221_version=1_urlVersion=0_userid=10md5=59871c30fa4605421232831ff7294135),. The full text of the paper apparently costs a bit more than 30.00 USD, except that I suspect some of those affiliated with institutions may be able to access. Creativity seems to be a major research interest of Professor Park, and Dr. Folley (whose Ph.D. dissertation is available for free download). Of course, it's possible that one of the researchers, or perhaps one of the subjects, might be a lurker on this list ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] joining layers
Johannes Gebauer wrote: ...is pretty much the way I did it in the end, thanks. It seems odd that such a simple thing is not included in the mass edit functions. Well, except the number of instances where one would want, and be able to combine layers is probably pretty small, since every vertical duration in all layers much exactly match. The moment a you have a single disjunction in durations, you are right back to needing two layers, or two voices. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] joining layers
Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 05.10.2008 dhbailey wrote: I think you need to use the Implode Music command. As far as I can tell this takes several staves and combines them, but it won't work on one staff in several layers. Johannes Well, if nothing else turns up, you could add a couple of scratch staves, move the music from the current staff into the same layer on the two new staves, then implode them back to the original staff. A lot of work, but if nobody comes up with a better system, it should do what you want. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] joining layers
On 06.10.2008 Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Well, except the number of instances where one would want, and be able to combine layers is probably pretty small, since every vertical duration in all layers much exactly match. The moment a you have a single disjunction in durations, you are right back to needing two layers, or two voices. Ok, but the function to Implode music does already do that, and it only needs to be changed so it can operate on layers instead of staves. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] joining layers
On 06.10.2008 dhbailey wrote: Well, if nothing else turns up, you could add a couple of scratch staves, move the music from the current staff into the same layer on the two new staves, then implode them back to the original staff. A lot of work, but if nobody comes up with a better system, it should do what you want. That's what I did in the end. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] snippets of music
Sibelius 5 has a unique new feature that lets you capture, use and re-use snippets of music: Ideas Hub. Finale has something similar? Thanks.** ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] joining layers
Well, except the number of instances where one would want, and be able to combine layers is probably pretty small, since every vertical duration in all layers much exactly match. The moment a you have a single disjunction in durations, you are right back to needing two layers, or two voices. My most common use of implode is as the first step in producing lute tablature. The whole point is to merge the disjunction in durations. Imploding layers would be very helpful. RY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] the musicians had higher IQ scores than the non-musicians
On Oct 5, 2008, at 10:35 PM, John Howell wrote: At 8:45 PM -0400 10/5/08, timothy price wrote: FYI Musicians use both sides of their brains more frequently than average people Vanderbilt University Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:11 UTC Supporting what many of us who are not musically talented have often felt, new research reveals that trained musicians really do think differently than the rest of us. Vanderbilt University psychologists have found thatprofessionally trained musicians more effectively use a creative technique called divergent thinking, and also use both the left and the right sides of their frontal cortex more heavily than the average person. Hi, Timothy, and everyone else. This may turn out to be a valid study, but I'd sure like to read the study itself rather than this press release. But in any case I would have to question whether the experiment was set up to identify cause and effect, or just correlation. It is interesting, however, that the experimenters seem to have identified musicians as instrumentalists, and ignored singers as an important class of musicians. They apparently also made no effort to differentiate between training that MUSICIANS would identify as more creative--i.e., composition and jazz improvisation--and training simply as performers. Nor did it differentiate trombonists, whose left hands are mostly passive when they play. I wonder if us trombonists are more intelligent, too? (Did that really come out as desperate and needy as it reads?) Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] the musicians had higher IQ scores than the non-musicians
I searched for it. It has been available online since 23 August. You can read it if your library has a subscription to the journal Brain and Cognition (a university library probably does): Gibson, C., et al. *Enhanced divergent thinking and creativity in musicians: A behavioral and near-infrared spectroscopy study*, Brain and Cognition (2008), doi:10.1016/j.bandc.2008.07.009 2008/10/6 John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd sure like to read the study itself rather than this press release. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] annotation files
On Oct 6, 2008, at 1:58 AM, Stan Lord wrote: MacFin 2008 r2 OS10.5 I opened a piece I did about 3 weeks ago and got the message Font annotation files cannot be found. Parts have been generated and printed. Now the accents and slurs are way out of position. I can't understand what's happened. Any ideas?? Probably some random gamma radiation has either obliterated the FAN files or (more likely) the setting inside Finale's Program Options that tells FInale where to look for them. First of all, shut down Finale and restart it. This solves an awful lot of random strangeness. If that doesn't work, then reboot the computer. If that doesn't work, then start looking for the files from inside Finale. Go to the FInale MenuPreferencesProgram Options (or just press command-comma) and select Folders. Font Annotation is near the bottom of the list. The folder selected should be just inside the Finale 2008 folder, called Font Annotation. You may have to actually check the box, rather than depending on Finale's defaults. If this doesn't solve it, check the actual folder to make sure the .fan files are actually there. You may have to reinstall them from the disc if they are missing. Tech support tells me to trash prefs every time I sneeze, so try this and see if it helps. After these steps, I would get on the horn to Tech Support. They may have more insight. Also I've added an extra stave and can't figure out how to generate a part for this without undoing the other generated parts ?? This is a separate issue. You will have to create the part manually (a pain, but you don't want to lose the other parts!) Document MenuManage Parts... Click New Part. The other two columns open automatically. Your new part is the centre column. It is called Part 12 or something like that right now, so edit the Part Name to call it what you want. Click a staff or group you want the part to contain from the right-most column and click Add to part. Repeat if you want other staves added. I have to do this when I create a Piano Vocal part, because my vocal line and my piano part are not next to each other in the score. You're pretty much done. C. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] snippets of music
Dragos, Oltean wrote: Sibelius 5 has a unique new feature that lets you capture, use and re-use snippets of music: Ideas Hub. Finale has something similar? Thanks.** ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale No, Finale doesn't have something similar. In Finale you have to save each snippet to its own file, but it's no big deal. I don't find the Sibelius Ideas feature useful at all. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] joining layers
On 6 Oct 2008 at 2:51, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Johannes Gebauer wrote: ...is pretty much the way I did it in the end, thanks. It seems odd that such a simple thing is not included in the mass edit functions. Well, except the number of instances where one would want, and be able to combine layers is probably pretty small, since every vertical duration in all layers much exactly match. The moment a you have a single disjunction in durations, you are right back to needing two layers, or two voices. How is that any different from combining multiple saves, as the existing implode already does? I'm with Johannes: it seems obvious that if you can do it for staves, you can do it for layers. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] snippets of music
No, Finale doesn't have something similar. In Finale you have to save each snippet to its own file, but it's no big deal. I don't find the Sibelius Ideas feature useful at all. For copying/engraving work, I too see little use for the Ideas feature. For those who compose, and do so directly into the computer, this tool in priceless. One of the problems with composing directly into the computer is the loss of the process of composing, in my opinion. The process of sketching, revising, revising, and then revising again, while it may occur when composing directly into Finale, leaves no traces once the process is complete. As a composer, I find that I can learn from--and often glean new ideas, etc. from--looking back on all the bits and pieces that have come to become a finished work. It is only through a great deal of work that saving and organizing these bits of work that this occurs within Finale, and the single reason that I reverted to ONLY moving to inputting work into Finale once a work was, for all intents and purposes, finished. Finding this feature in Sibelius has, frankly, been one of the main reasons that I find it of much greater value as a compositional tool. I do realize, however, that this has little bearing on either software's value as a copying/engraving tool. Just my two cents... --Brennon Brennon Bortz Composer Queen's University of Belfast School of Music and Sonic Arts ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] snippets of music
Not as such, but I have been making scratch documents that I copy things to that I might re-use since Finale 3.2. It's not all that hard. Christopher On 6-Oct-08, at 6-Oct-08 8:52 AM, Dragoş Oltean wrote: Sibelius 5 has a unique new feature that lets you capture, use and re-use snippets of music: Ideas Hub. Finale has something similar? Thanks.** ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] joining layers
How is that any different from combining multiple saves, as the existing implode already does? I'm with Johannes: it seems obvious that if you can do it for staves, you can do it for layers. David W. Fenton I seem to vaguely remember someone here soundly scolding me for assuming how easy it would be to make modifications to Finale's features. That said, I agree that it does seem that imploding layers could be implemented. In fact, I assume that it is a mechanical data manipulation that Johannes or others could design a plug-in to do. RY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] joining layers
Richard Yates wrote: How is that any different from combining multiple saves, as the existing implode already does? I'm with Johannes: it seems obvious that if you can do it for staves, you can do it for layers. David W. Fenton I seem to vaguely remember someone here soundly scolding me for assuming how easy it would be to make modifications to Finale's features. That said, I agree that it does seem that imploding layers could be implemented. In fact, I assume that it is a mechanical data manipulation that Johannes or others could design a plug-in to do. RY Someone scolding others on this list for making assumptions about ease of programming to change Finale's functions or to add new things? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. I would never imagine such a thing from anyone on this list. ;-) I don't think Johannes is a plug-in designer. And I believe I recall Robert Patterson remarking something about how the new plug-in developer's kit didn't have the same data access in it that previous versions had, so it might not even be possible to create a plug-in to do that. But that's just something from the dim corners of my memory which might best have been left there. :-) -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] joining layers
Richard Yates wrote: How is that any different from combining multiple saves, as the existing implode already does? I'm with Johannes: it seems obvious that if you can do it for staves, you can do it for layers. David W. Fenton I seem to vaguely remember someone here soundly scolding me for assuming how easy it would be to make modifications to Finale's features. That said, I agree that it does seem that imploding layers could be implemented. In fact, I assume that it is a mechanical data manipulation that Johannes or others could design a plug-in to do. RY In fairness to David Fenton, though, he didn't say he thought it would be easy, just that it would be possible. Which may still be an unjustified assumption, but not quite the same thing as saying it would be easy. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] joining layers
On 6-Oct-08, at 6-Oct-08 4:14 PM, dhbailey wrote: In fairness to David Fenton, though, he didn't say he thought it would be easy, just that it would be possible. Which may still be an unjustified assumption, but not quite the same thing as saying it would be easy. TG Tools is able to explode parts correctly both with and without separate layers, so I imagine if anyone could write a plugin to switch multi-layer parts to single layer, it would be Tobias. But I still wonder what the results would be of a part written, say, two half notes in one voice and a whole note in the other voice. Are we certain what we are asking for? christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] TAN: Midi Issues
Friends: I know just enough about MIDI to connect my keyboard (Roland EP 75) and configure it to work with Finale. Recently, I came across the documents that came with the keyboard, and upon review, I find that the EP75 has a quantity of sounds that I should be able to access through MIDI (if I understand the documentation correctly), even though they are not GM sounds. Searches of the internet did not provide the needed information, at least not that I've found so far. Can anyone recommend a reference source, or alternatively walk me through what I'd need to send to the EP75 to allow me to hear what these sounds? ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Midi Issues
Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Friends: I know just enough about MIDI to connect my keyboard (Roland EP 75) and configure it to work with Finale. Recently, I came across the documents that came with the keyboard, and upon review, I find that the EP75 has a quantity of sounds that I should be able to access through MIDI (if I understand the documentation correctly), even though they are not GM sounds. Searches of the internet did not provide the needed information, at least not that I've found so far. Can anyone recommend a reference source, or alternatively walk me through what I'd need to send to the EP75 to allow me to hear what these sounds? In the documentation which came with the Roland should be a data list, which has all the banks listed and each patch number within the different banks. Armed with that information, you go to the Instrument List and click on the channel for whichever staff you want to experiment with and then click Edit Instrument. The dialog which opens up contains a line labeled Patch: and there is a drop down menu which enables you to decide which sort of patch change will be sent. The default is Program Change. Which of the choices is the right one will depend on what the manual for the Roland says. Some synths use both sorts of bank change data, others use one of them. You select the sort your synth requires. The two data entry boxes labeled Bank Select 0 and Bank Select 32 are greyed out when the default Program Change is selected, but those two boxes will be editable once you've selected the type of bank/patch change data you need to send. You enter the Bank number in the correct slot or slots, then the patch number for the sound you want, and when you play the score, that staff should have what you want. Some synths base their numbering on 0-127 while others base their numbering on 1-128, so you may have to experiment on which number to tell Finale (which is 1-based, not 0-based, as I recall) to get the exact patch you want. I hope this helps, and I hope others will chime in with better details more specific to your synth. Good luck -- next to percussion staves, midi remains one of the huge black-holes of Finale's universe. :-) -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] measure number question
Dear Listers, I am doing a transcription that needs a special measure number. The situation is this: I have measure 108 and I need to add measure 108a as a safety vamp during the show. How is this done? I want the measure numbers to begin again at measure 109 Hope this is clear. Thanks in advance! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] measure number question
At 08:31 PM 10/6/2008, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I am doing a transcription that needs a special measure number. The situation is this: I have measure 108 and I need to add measure 108a as a safety vamp during the show. How is this done? I want the measure numbers to begin again at measure 109 You don't say what version of Finale you're using. If you're using Fin2007 or later, select the measure tool and double-click the measure you want to be 108a. Under Options, uncheck Include in Measure Numbering. Now Finale will skip this measure; the one before will be 108, and the one after will be 109. I don't think Finale can actually display a measure number with numbers and letters, like 108a, so you'll probably have to create a measure expression and attach it to that measure. If you're using an earlier version of Finale, you'll need to create a second measure number region. Select the measure tool, and do Measure | Measure Numbers | Edit Regions. You probably only have one region defined. Select it, and set it to include measures 1 through 108. Then click the Add button. Define this second measure to include measures 110 through 999, and set First Measure in Region to 109. You now have 2 measure regions, leaving out the 109th measure. Again, you'll probably need a measure expression to get 108a on that measure. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] measure number question
On Oct 6, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Dear Listers, I am doing a transcription that needs a special measure number. The situation is this: I have measure 108 and I need to add measure 108a as a safety vamp during the show. How is this done? I want the measure numbers to begin again at measure 109 First of all, make sure everything about the measure numbers (size, position) is what you want. Now create two new measure regions. You now have three regions, all with the same attributes. We will edit those. Set the first region to include measures 1 through 108. Set the second to include measures 109 through 109. Set the first measure in region to be 108. You will also type into the suffix box the letter a. Maybe you want to make sure that the Display is set to every 1 measure to force it to appear. The third region will include measures 110 through 999, and the first measure in the region will be 109. Done. In this situation I usually set the program options to display defined measure numbers (so I can keep my place more easily) but in some versions of Finale this causes many strange things to break. I think it's all ok again in 2009. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] measure number question
This is good advice in theory. In reality, it is a bad idea to exclude measures from regions by unchecking that box in the measure attributes - unpredictable things can happen so you really should avoid that. You absolutely can have numbers and letters in a measure region. Follow Aaron's advice for setting up the 2 regions (below). But create a 3rd region for measure 109. Set it for m 109-109, first number in measure is 1, below that is a pop-up menu called Style - choose a,b,c..., now put 108 in the prefix box and measure 109 will be labeled 108a. On Oct 6, 2008, at 7:49 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 08:31 PM 10/6/2008, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I am doing a transcription that needs a special measure number. The situation is this: I have measure 108 and I need to add measure 108a as a safety vamp during the show. How is this done? I want the measure numbers to begin again at measure 109 You don't say what version of Finale you're using. If you're using Fin2007 or later, select the measure tool and double-click the measure you want to be 108a. Under Options, uncheck Include in Measure Numbering. Now Finale will skip this measure; the one before will be 108, and the one after will be 109. I don't think Finale can actually display a measure number with numbers and letters, like 108a, so you'll probably have to create a measure expression and attach it to that measure. If you're using an earlier version of Finale, you'll need to create a second measure number region. Select the measure tool, and do Measure | Measure Numbers | Edit Regions. You probably only have one region defined. Select it, and set it to include measures 1 through 108. Then click the Add button. Define this second measure to include measures 110 through 999, and set First Measure in Region to 109. You now have 2 measure regions, leaving out the 109th measure. Again, you'll probably need a measure expression to get 108a on that measure. John Blane Blane Music Preparation 1649 Huntington Ln. Highland Park, IL 60035 847 579-9900 847 579-9903 fax www.BlaneMusic.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] measure number question
Ah, I missed the Prefix and Suffix boxes, right there in front of my face. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
