Re: [Finale] repeat?
On 30 May 2010 at 14:09, John Howell wrote: > Well, it's certainly something I've never seen. (David Fenton?) I don't have anything to say that hasn't already been said. It confuses me greatly, in fact, as the obvious interpretation (repeat the 2 bars) seems musically less than satisfactory. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Rondeau layout
At 10:07 AM +0200 5/30/10, dc wrote: John Howell écrit: Well, if you have the last Da Capo written out (which is what your outline shows), it's no longer a Da Capo, right? You might want to put a rubric like "Keep playing to the end" just to be perfectly clear for sightreading. This is assuming everyone reads English, which is not the case. Nor is English the standard language in the musical world. The only rubric I could imagine putting would be... volti subito. Correct, of course. But V.S. would work for me. Or whatever the Italian is for "don't repeat." John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts & Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html "We never play anything the same way once." Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] repeat?
At 10:03 AM +0200 5/30/10, dc wrote: www.collins.lautre.net/files/brace.jpg How do you interpret this sign? It comes at the end of a chaconne where the theme is 2x8 measures (D to A, A back to D). As a repeat? Thanks, Dennis Well, it's certainly something I've never seen. (David Fenton?) But what it outlines is a perfectly clear hemiola shift--although perhaps not entirely clear in the eyes of the composer?) Certainly a repeat would be possible, but there are cleaner ways to indicate that. And it doesn't seems to suggest a petite reprise. I suppose it COULD indicate a 1st ending, and that would retain the 8-bar period. And that works harmonically, so I would probably give that a try. As to the double bar at the end without dots, I've come to think that repeat patterns were considered optional rather than ruled by rules, and I've read suggestions that as late as Haydn and CPE Bach, and perhaps as late as Mozart and Beethoven, the double bars with dots were simply conventional and were NOT necessarily a call for a repeat. (This is discussed every once in a while on the OrchestraList, in relation to repeat marks in symphonies.) John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts & Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html "We never play anything the same way once." Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] indication of hands in keyboard music
This morning I played Bach's "Toccata and Fugue in D minor" for postlude. I do not play this more than once a year so I read it from the score. I was very glad that the editors at Edition Peters chose to divide the beams to reflect the division of the hands. The notes go past much too quickly to read fingerings or hand indications. I mention this to reaffirm my vote for version No. 1. Guy Hayden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] disappearing clef
Hey Daniel! Thanks for the tip--unfortunately I do not see the SET TO CLEF option under STAFF ATTRIBUTES--must be something added post-2003. Aaron J. Rabushka arabus...@austin.rr.com - Original Message - From: "DANIEL CARNO" To: Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 10:59 PM Subject: RE: [Finale] disappearing clef Hi Aaron, This is a long shot, but do you have "Set to Clef" turned on in Staff Attributes? If so, that could be the problem. Dan Carno Daniel J. Carno Music Engraving Services Quality work in Sibelius, Finale and Score 4514 Makyes Road Syracuse, New York 13215 315-492-2987 dcar...@twcny.rr.com -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of arabus...@austin.rr.com Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 10:05 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] disappearing clef In the score I'm working on now there is one passage where I contiually have to re-mark a bass clef in the right-hand staff of one of the piano parts--very often this clef disappears, and the notes appear correctly and awkwardly in the treble clef. Has anyone else had this problem? Could it possibly have something to do with optimizing scores? Aaron J. Rabushka Finale 2003 on a PC ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5154 (20100528) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5154 (20100528) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] indication of hands in keyboard music
As a pianist/keyboardist I would feel confused by both of them. 1 I don't like the broken 16ths 2 I really don't like being told which hand to use, if you really need to put any insication in I would go for fingering . . . but then again . . / Cb On May 29, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Ray Horton wrote: This bad keyboardist votes for #1. #2 is difficult to decipher without repeated looks. RBH On May 28, 2010, at 7:47 AM, dc wrote: I didn't get many (or any) replies to my first message on this subject, so I thought I'd try again with an example to make my question clear. This is a question mainly for keyboard players. Which of these two notations do you prefer? www.collins.lautre.net/files/hands.jpg 1 makes the hands more apparent, but 2 makes the beats clearer, of course. Amusingly, the preface to these pieces says that the composer has made things easier by using 1, though in the music itself he generally uses 2. Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale --- The market should accommodate art, but art should not accommodate the market. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] iMac i7 issues?
No gotchas. Just good stuff. As for MakeMusic testing stuff.who knows On May 30, 2010, at 1:45 AM, Eric Fiedler wrote: > Hi Chuck and Eric D., > Thanks for the input. > Chuck: it's good to hear that your core i5 is doing the job for you. We've > been looking at i5s too, and will probably go that route, as they are easier > to get over here and are a little less expensive than the i7s. > Eric D.: My concerns were based less on the new iMacs in general, which are > quite probably as "insanely great" as (almost) everything from Apple. My > worry was about the (usually) unforeseeable "gotchas" that my Mac experience > tells me sometimes appear when a new generation of processors meets up with a > new (or old) app. Have the good people at MM tested their products on the new > machines? Who knows. But there's always someone in the blogosphere who's sure > to know, so thanks for the "all clear" ... and for the tip about the RAM. > Eric F. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] iMac i7 issues?
Hi Chuck and Eric D., Thanks for the input. Chuck: it's good to hear that your core i5 is doing the job for you. We've been looking at i5s too, and will probably go that route, as they are easier to get over here and are a little less expensive than the i7s. Eric D.: My concerns were based less on the new iMacs in general, which are quite probably as "insanely great" as (almost) everything from Apple. My worry was about the (usually) unforeseeable "gotchas" that my Mac experience tells me sometimes appear when a new generation of processors meets up with a new (or old) app. Have the good people at MM tested their products on the new machines? Who knows. But there's always someone in the blogosphere who's sure to know, so thanks for the "all clear" ... and for the tip about the RAM. Eric F. On May 29, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Eric Fiedler online.de> wrote: Hello all, Is there anyone out there with one of the new Core i7 iMacs who has been having any serious "issues" with Finale 2010? We are seriously thinking about biting the bullet and retiring our ancient trio of 10-year-old (!) G5 towers and replacing them with something from the 21st century, and the latest iMacs have been getting a pretty good press ... and are a lot cheaper than the Mac Pros. Any words of wisdom from the FinMac community would be most welcome. Eric Habsburger Verlag Frankfurt (Dr. Fiedler) www.habsburgerverlag.de eric.f.fied...@t-online.de e.fied...@em.uni-frankfurt.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Habsburger Verlag Frankfurt (Dr. Fiedler) www.habsburgerverlag.de eric.f.fied...@t-online.de e.fied...@em.uni-frankfurt.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] repeat?
I think it means that those two bars are repeated. I've seen this marking before, though I don't recall in which pieces, but I'm fairly certain they were keyboard works. Since it's a chaconne, would repeating those bars greatly distrupt the ground, or does it serve to prolong the cadence so the listener knows the work is coming to an end? On May 30, 2010, at 1:03 AM, dc wrote: www.collins.lautre.net/files/brace.jpg How do you interpret this sign? It comes at the end of a chaconne where the theme is 2x8 measures (D to A, A back to D). As a repeat? Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
