Re: [Finale] Tempo changes

2013-04-08 Thread Phil Buglass
I would tend to agree, except I need the final 
result output to CD so it can be played through 
the church's sound system. Finale is the only 
program I have which will do that - even if I do 
have to go through a .wav first!

Phil.

At 04:26 PM 4/7/2013, you wrote:
In my somewhat less than humble opinion, you're 
driving yourself nuts trying to do this in 
Finale, when a MIDI sequencing program, such as 
DP or Logic, is much more suitable.


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Re: [Finale] Tempo changes

2013-04-08 Thread David H. Bailey
On 4/7/2013 2:05 PM, Phil Buglass wrote:
 Yeah, I have heard the ones on the garritan website.  They are amazing.

 Anyway, I cleared out the data from the second
 half of the file, like you said in your previous message.

 Putting in a rall in the last couple of measures
 actually worked!   Doing it in the problem
 measure, however, didn't make any
 difference.  The program just ignores it.  I also
 put it in at another measure, which the program
 follows - but completely ignores the 'a tempo' in the next measure...


What else do you have in that problem measure?  Do you have any 
expressions which may have been defined for playback?  There's a 
hierarchy that Finale uses to parse conflicting instructions so if you 
have something defined for playback that Finale places more importance 
on and you also have something that you think should be the correct 
instruction, one thing may be over-ruling the other thing.  Try 
eliminating everything in the problem measure except the notes 
themselves, and then place one instruction that is what you want to have 
happen with the tempo and then see what happens.  Then gradually add 
back whatever else you had in that measure, playing back with each new 
thing added until you find the offending instruction which prevents your 
original intent from happening.


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[Finale] Splitting Chords by Note

2013-04-08 Thread Dean Rosenthal
Hello:

My question is about moving specific notes of a chord, given on a single
MIDI track, to another staff and handling regions.  It is chord splitting.
 However, a split point won't work here, what I need to do is divide up the
notes in a way that doesn't reflect top to bottom etc.  I have looked
into cross staff notation and the MIDI tools, but can't find a solution.
 Simply put, I need control over each note in a given chord of a given MIDI
track, to move the chosen notes to a separate staff.  The Note Mover tool
might help, but it doesn't appear to be able to handle regions of repeated
chords.

Thanks,
Dean

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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread Williams, Jim
Hi, Linda.
Using finale fonts in word documents may often be problematic due to issues of 
baselines and spacing.

You'd be better served to download the Bach font, which contains myriad symbols 
and is specifically designed for use in word and similar programs. Of course, 
it comes with a character map so you can see which keys produce which symbols.

Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.

On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Linda Worsley li...@ganymuse.com wrote:

 I occasionallyh need to type music symbols (ff, quarter note, fermata,
 etc.) into a Word file.  Is there a chart somewhere that contains all the
 keystrokes for the various symbpols?
 
 Thanks!
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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2011Mac/Content/Finale/Maestro_Font.htm

Klaus

Sendt fra min iPad

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 I occasionallyh need to type music symbols (ff, quarter note, fermata,
 etc.) into a Word file.  Is there a chart somewhere that contains all the
 keystrokes for the various symbpols?
 
 Thanks!
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Re: [Finale] Tempo changes

2013-04-08 Thread Don Hart
Hi Phil,

I've used hidden tempo marks for years (with and w/out HP) and have been
quite successful getting tempos how I like/envision them.

For positioning, put those expressions in the Tempo Alterations category.
The default positioning in that category is Horizontal Click Positioning
which will attach the expression to a beat or note, and the playback is
affected starting where it's attached.  Remember, you can option-drag to
change the point of attachment.

Because I hide these expressions, I rarely create a separate staff for
them.  Most of the time, attaching to notes available in the score is
sufficient.

The only problem I haven't totally overcome is in certain situations where
I want to define an accel. or rit. differently from what HP gives me, but I
need the indication in the score/parts.  I'm not sure how to turn off HP
for one rit. and not another.  Does anyone know how?  Would a hidden
character or hard space do the trick?

Don Hart


On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi,

 This is a great idea.   The problem is that these
 tempo marks attach themselves to the beginning of
 the measure.  The manual says you can attach
 expressions to notes, but it doesn't work with
 these.  I tried dragging them around, but the
 attachment snaps to the next measure, not the
 next note.  The end result is that they all take
 effect at the same time, so it ends up being a
 tempo change rather than a rallentando.

 Thanks for the help.  My brain is fried, and I
 think it's time I got on with some other stuff
 for now.  There has to be a way of getting this
 to work...  Maybe it will come to me in my sleep or something,

 Thanks again,

 Phil.


 At 02:17 PM 4/7/2013, you wrote:
 On 7 Apr 2013, at 1:00 PM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote:


 If you really don't care what it looks like, you
 can try this:  put a real tempo mark (quarter =
 whatever) wherever you want to change
 tempo.  For gradual tempo changes, put a tempo
 mark one on every beat (quarter, eighth,
 sixteenth).  These DO work, at least nearly
 always.  You can create a silent scratch track
 with a string of notes to which to attach the tempo marks.


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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread Michael Mathew
Linda,

Here is another source from the finale website and reference manual with 
alternative and text versions of music fonts:

http://www.finalemusic.com/usermanuals/finale2012mac/content/Finale/Alternative_music_fonts.htm

 
Michael
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http://oregonmts.com/mathew/



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To: finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 9:47 AM
Subject: [Finale] typing in music symbols
 
I occasionallyh need to type music symbols (ff, quarter note, fermata,
etc.) into a Word file.  Is there a chart somewhere that contains all the
keystrokes for the various symbpols?

Thanks!
Linda
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Re: [Finale] Tempo changes

2013-04-08 Thread Raymond Horton
Some suggestions:

1) Just as the esteemed composer David Froom suggested earlier, don't use
the Finale-defined rits, etc.  Make your own tempo marks - they can show,
they can be hidden, they can be a rit. with a tempo attached.

2)  To make your own tempo mark, select expressions (mf), select Tempo
Marks and either create a new one or duplicate one there and redefine it.
For a mid-measure tempo change you will have to edit the positioning -
deselect the Use Tempo Marks Positioning and change the Horizontal
Alignment Point to Horizontal Click Positioning.  Then you can attach

3) When busy people take time to try to help you, even if you are still
having trouble: show a _little bit_ of appreciation in your reply!  That
will be your best assurance of getting more help. It is not our fault that
Finale can be frustrating!  We did not design the program (which, even when
I curse it, I consider a gift from God that has improved my life
tremendously.)  You are getting a lot more help than some of us got when we
started out (back when the program was WAY more confusing, I could add!).
 FIRST, say 'thanks for your help, then tell us what worked better, what
didn't.  It will make the next set of suggestions easier to type for those
who are trying to help you.

I see that some later replies from you DO contain some appreciation, so I
may be out of line with that last paragraph.  Without looking up your
earlier replies, I recalled some mis-directed frustration.  If the shoe
doesn't fit, please toss it back.

Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
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On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote:

 No, they are not repeating notes.  Besides, it is
 a 2-measure phrase which repeats several times
 among different voices, and all the others play
 ok.  Just the alto line, which is turned up
 pretty high, and marked forte right at that entry.

 I have tried this new stripped-down copy both
 with and without HP, but it doesn't seem to make much difference either
 way.

 Phil.

 At 01:57 PM 4/7/2013, you wrote:
 Are the notes that are not playing repeated notes of the same pitch?
 
 I often have to shorten notes so the repeated ones will play.  I will
 routinely use the midi tool to highlight the entire score, then under midi
 tool menu select edit note durations, then percent alter  to a number
 like 96 or 94 percent of original length (or higher or lower, depending on
 the legato vs staccato nature of the score and how much reverb you are
 using).  That takes care of the repeated notes problem.
 
 Human playback seems to make notes longer than 100% and the overlap
 creates
 the problem.
 
 
 For volumes, you can strip the midi velocities using the procedure I
 described earlier, and just use volumes.
 
 The idiosyncratic nature of playback seems to multiply with Finale X Human
 Playback X GPO, but with patience can really pay off.   Speaking of
 playback volume, when GPO first appeared, it only responded to commands
 that used Modulation, not Key Velocity.  This meant we had to define a set
 of dynamics that used the Mod wheel.  Later, GPO was supposed to respond
 to
 the same Key Velocity dynamics that Finale had by default.  But, sometimes
 I notice that those don't work and I have to define some for Modulation.
  I
 haven't needed to make a good demo in a while, so I don't know where this
 stands, now, so try some of both.  (To define a dynamic for Modulation,
 duplicate a dynamic and edit the playback to controller /
 modulation and try some different numbers there.)
 
 Raymond Horton
 Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
 Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
 Composer, Arranger
 VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
 
 
 On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
   As I said in another post, most of the tempo
   changes - both wanted and unwanted - failed to
   survive the night.  I think the cat must be
   getting on here after I am asleep...
  
   Today's problem is getting the program to
   consistently play the notes that are there.  I
   have a couple of sections where nothing gets
   played in one part for a few measures.  I have
   some places where it gets played but *so* quietly
   that I am not sure it isn't my imagination
   providing a 'fill in'.   I have the volumes
   turned up pretty high using studio view, and the
   parts are marked f or ff, but they still play very quietly.
  
   I haven't given up yet, but there are a few head-shaped dents in the
   wall...
  
   Phil.
  
   At 12:02 PM 4/7/2013, you wrote:
   OK, Phil, looking over your older posts, I am guessing you are using
   Finale-Windows 2012.  I have that, but because of a couple of issues I
   reverted to 2011.  I am going to be trying 2012 again in a few days,
   though.
   
   I think this stuff has not changed, so try this:
   
   1) Save your file
   
   2) With the 

Re: [Finale] Tempo changes

2013-04-08 Thread Raymond Horton
That's an important difference that Don points out: the Tempo Marks
category defaults to Beginning of Measure, (or Start of Time Signature,
I forget which) while the Tempo Alterations category defaults to
Horizontal Click Positioning

Of course, either can be redefined as a category or individually, or -
perhaps best for Phil's use - a new category could be made - with hidden
tempo marks that default to horizontal position, for example.


Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Don Hart donhartmu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Phil,

 I've used hidden tempo marks for years (with and w/out HP) and have been
 quite successful getting tempos how I like/envision them.

 For positioning, put those expressions in the Tempo Alterations category.
 The default positioning in that category is Horizontal Click Positioning
 which will attach the expression to a beat or note, and the playback is
 affected starting where it's attached.  Remember, you can option-drag to
 change the point of attachment.

 Because I hide these expressions, I rarely create a separate staff for
 them.  Most of the time, attaching to notes available in the score is
 sufficient.

 The only problem I haven't totally overcome is in certain situations where
 I want to define an accel. or rit. differently from what HP gives me, but I
 need the indication in the score/parts.  I'm not sure how to turn off HP
 for one rit. and not another.  Does anyone know how?  Would a hidden
 character or hard space do the trick?

 Don Hart


 On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote:

  Hi,
 
  This is a great idea.   The problem is that these
  tempo marks attach themselves to the beginning of
  the measure.  The manual says you can attach
  expressions to notes, but it doesn't work with
  these.  I tried dragging them around, but the
  attachment snaps to the next measure, not the
  next note.  The end result is that they all take
  effect at the same time, so it ends up being a
  tempo change rather than a rallentando.
 
  Thanks for the help.  My brain is fried, and I
  think it's time I got on with some other stuff
  for now.  There has to be a way of getting this
  to work...  Maybe it will come to me in my sleep or something,
 
  Thanks again,
 
  Phil.
 
 
  At 02:17 PM 4/7/2013, you wrote:
  On 7 Apr 2013, at 1:00 PM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote:
 
 
  If you really don't care what it looks like, you
  can try this:  put a real tempo mark (quarter =
  whatever) wherever you want to change
  tempo.  For gradual tempo changes, put a tempo
  mark one on every beat (quarter, eighth,
  sixteenth).  These DO work, at least nearly
  always.  You can create a silent scratch track
  with a string of notes to which to attach the tempo marks.
 
 
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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread Don Hart
Hi Linda,

Not being sure exactly what you need to accomplish, you may have decent
luck with the Engraver Text fonts (H, NCS and T).  The baseline issue
mentioned above isn't as much of a problem, at least, because those fonts
are sized to match normal font texts (i.e., a quarter note in 12 point
EngraverTextT looks about the right size next to text in 12 point
Palatino).

When you start putting other musical elements with notes it may not always
make the best musical sense, as most everything appears to sit on the same
baseline.

Hope that helps.

Don


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Michael Mathew mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 Linda,

 Here is another source from the finale website and reference manual with
 alternative and text versions of music fonts:


 http://www.finalemusic.com/usermanuals/finale2012mac/content/Finale/Alternative_music_fonts.htm


 Michael
 mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com
 http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl
 http://oregonmts.com/mathew/


 
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 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 9:47 AM
 Subject: [Finale] typing in music symbols
 
 I occasionallyh need to type music symbols (ff, quarter note, fermata,
 etc.) into a Word file.  Is there a chart somewhere that contains all the
 keystrokes for the various symbpols?
 
 Thanks!
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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
There is also a set of fonts called Bach with various sets of notes and
beams, and another that I use for text called MusiQwik. The latter isn't as
pretty but has predefined staves and time signatures for pretty fast text
entry.

 From: Linda Worsley li...@ganymuse.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 9:47 AM
 Subject: [Finale] typing in music symbols

 I occasionally need to type music symbols (ff, quarter note, fermata,
 etc.) into a Word file.  Is there a chart somewhere that contains all the
 keystrokes for the various symbpols?



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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread Don Hart
Actually, the size of the elements in the EngraverText fonts is as I
described.  But although characters line up horizontally with other fonts,
extra space is added below any line where an EngraverText fonts is used. -
Don


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz 
bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote:

 There is also a set of fonts called Bach with various sets of notes and
 beams, and another that I use for text called MusiQwik. The latter isn't
 as
 pretty but has predefined staves and time signatures for pretty fast text
 entry.

  From: Linda Worsley li...@ganymuse.com
  To: finale@shsu.edu
  Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 9:47 AM
  Subject: [Finale] typing in music symbols
 
  I occasionally need to type music symbols (ff, quarter note, fermata,
  etc.) into a Word file.  Is there a chart somewhere that contains all the
  keystrokes for the various symbpols?



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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread David H. Bailey
On 4/8/2013 12:47 PM, Linda Worsley wrote:
 I occasionallyh need to type music symbols (ff, quarter note, fermata,
 etc.) into a Word file.  Is there a chart somewhere that contains all the
 keystrokes for the various symbpols?


Linda,

You've gotten some great replies already -- I can't remember if you're 
on a Mac or a Windows computer, but Windows ships with a terrific 
utility called Character Map and there are some other similar programs 
available for free or for small fee.  I don't know if such a program 
exists for the Mac but I hope one does.

With such a program you ask it to show you a font and it shows you all 
the characters in that font and allows you to copy a character and then 
past it into whatever other program you're working in.

I find it so much easier than trying to deal with printed character maps 
and remembering the alt-numpad combinations for characters above the 
128th slot in the font.

Good luck!

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Re: [Finale] Splitting Chords by Note

2013-04-08 Thread Raymond Horton
Consider exploding the staff onto as many separate staves as notes in the
track, then re-order the staves and combine them as needed.

Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
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On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Dean Rosenthal deanrosent...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello:

 My question is about moving specific notes of a chord, given on a single
 MIDI track, to another staff and handling regions.  It is chord splitting.
  However, a split point won't work here, what I need to do is divide up the
 notes in a way that doesn't reflect top to bottom etc.  I have looked
 into cross staff notation and the MIDI tools, but can't find a solution.
  Simply put, I need control over each note in a given chord of a given MIDI
 track, to move the chosen notes to a separate staff.  The Note Mover tool
 might help, but it doesn't appear to be able to handle regions of repeated
 chords.

 Thanks,
 Dean

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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread Linda Worsley
Thanks to all for pointing me at some sources.  I'm aware of the baseline
problems and just deal with them as they come up, by a variety of editing
tricks.  But I'm having trouble finding a keystroke for fortissimo (ff).
 If I use the one in the chart I get fff so I don't quite know what to do
about that.  I've been using maestro, but maybe I'll see if engraver has
its head on straight.

Thanks again!

Linda
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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread John Blane
Type f twice

On Apr 8, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Linda Worsley wrote:

 Thanks to all for pointing me at some sources.  I'm aware of the baseline
 problems and just deal with them as they come up, by a variety of editing
 tricks.  But I'm having trouble finding a keystroke for fortissimo (ff).
 If I use the one in the chart I get fff so I don't quite know what to do
 about that.  I've been using maestro, but maybe I'll see if engraver has
 its head on straight.
 
 Thanks again!
 
 Linda
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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread J D Thomas
Linda, 

One app I use that's very handy for finding and inserting various characters 
system-wide is PopChar.  It does cost $ but I find it indispensable.  It lives 
in the menubar to the left of the Apple menu when installed.

And, according to PopChar, ff fortissimo is opt-f and fff is shift-option-f in 
Maestro.

But you probably already knew that, yes?

J D Thomas
ThomaStudios
 
On Apr 8, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Linda Worsley wrote:

 Thanks to all for pointing me at some sources.  I'm aware of the baseline
 problems and just deal with them as they come up, by a variety of editing
 tricks.  But I'm having trouble finding a keystroke for fortissimo (ff).
 If I use the one in the chart I get fff so I don't quite know what to do
 about that.  I've been using maestro, but maybe I'll see if engraver has
 its head on straight.
 
 Thanks again!
 
 Linda
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Re: [Finale] Tempo changes

2013-04-08 Thread Phil Buglass
I am sorry if I have offended anyone by this.  I 
am certainly grateful for all the help and 
suggestions, and I try to express it. If my 
frustration got the better of me, then I 
apologise abjectly.  It certainly was not intended as any kind of slight.

I do tend to get frustrated when I am doing what 
the manual says, but it isn't 
working...  Sometimes I am sure it is user error, 
maybe I misread something or whatever.   For some 
of this stuff, though, you have to admit it is a 
pain.  All I needed to do was have a 'rall' 
measure followed by 'a tempo'.   That should be 
simple and straight-forward, but...   I have 
taken up a lot of you guys' time, and a heap of 
mine, and it still isn't quite right.  I have 
spent probably 12 hours this weekend, just 
working on this one little problem.  The book 
says do this, and the program will do that, but 
obviously in this case, it just doesn't.  The 
very fact that so many old-timers (sorry!) have 
developed work-arounds for it is pretty telling, don't you think?

Anyway, I have some meetings I have to attend 
this evening, but tomorrow morning I will take 
another look at defining the tempo-changes.

And yes, thank you all for your time and 
effort!   Even the stuff which hasn't worked for 
me, I am trying to store it for future purposes.

Phil.

At 01:50 PM 4/8/2013, you wrote:

3) When busy people take time to try to help you, even if you are still
having trouble: show a _little bit_ of appreciation in your reply!  That
will be your best assurance of getting more help. It is not our fault that
Finale can be frustrating!  We did not design the program (which, even when
I curse it, I consider a gift from God that has improved my life
tremendously.)  You are getting a lot more help than some of us got when we
started out (back when the program was WAY more confusing, I could add!).
  FIRST, say 'thanks for your help, then tell us what worked better, what
didn't.  It will make the next set of suggestions easier to type for those
who are trying to help you.

I see that some later replies from you DO contain some appreciation, so I
may be out of line with that last paragraph.  Without looking up your
earlier replies, I recalled some mis-directed frustration.  If the shoe
doesn't fit, please toss it back.

Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com


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Inside of a dog it’s too dark to read.” ­ Groucho Marx
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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Linda:

The real timesaver for you in this situation is one of the fonts that 
Dennis mentioned in his post in this thread, the Bach Musicological 
Font; It is available as a free download, 
http://www.mu.qub.ac.uk/tomita/bachfont/. This is a font that is 
designed to do exactly what you want. You might check the distribution 
disk of your word processor program, too. For years, Corel has 
distributed a music symbol font with Word Perfect, but you have to find 
it in the included fonts and install it. I expect that most of the other 
word processors also include a music symbol font. Also, most of the free 
font sites online have downloadable music symbol fonts for MAC, for 
example, http://www.fontspace.com/dvm-publications/metdemo

ns

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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Linda:

The real timesaver for you in this situation is one of the fonts that 
Dennis mentioned in his post in this thread, the Bach Musicological 
Font; It is available as a free download, 
http://www.mu.qub.ac.uk/tomita/bachfont/. This is a font that is 
designed to do exactly what you want. You might check the distribution 
disk of your word processor program, too. For years, Corel has 
distributed a music symbol font with Word Perfect, but you have to find 
it in the included fonts and install it. I expect that most of the other 
word processors also include a music symbol font. Also, most of the free 
font sites online have downloadable music symbol fonts for MAC, for 
example, http://www.fontspace.com/dvm-publications/metdemo.

No need to worry about baselines with any of these.

ns

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[Finale] Expression tempo changes attached to notes

2013-04-08 Thread David Froom
You can put in any expression you like (even a space bar as blank expression), 
and assign it a playback tempo value. If you do this in the misc. category, you 
aren't bound by measure-only restrictions of the tempo category. 

DF

On Apr 8, 2013, at 1:00 PM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote:

 This is a great idea.   The problem is that these 
 tempo marks attach themselves to the beginning of 
 the measure.  The manual says you can attach 
 expressions to notes, but it doesn't work with 
 these.  I tried dragging them around, but the 
 attachment snaps to the next measure, not the 
 next note.  The end result is that they all take 
 effect at the same time, so it ends up being a 
 tempo change rather than a rallentando.


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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread John Roberts
I've used Steve Powell's Metronome fonts for years (from DVM 
Publications), including MetTimes and MetHelvetica, which mix music 
characters with those text fonts.

JR


On 4/8/13 6:26 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
 Linda:

 The real timesaver for you in this situation is one of the fonts that
 Dennis mentioned in his post in this thread, the Bach Musicological
 Font; It is available as a free download,
 http://www.mu.qub.ac.uk/tomita/bachfont/. This is a font that is
 designed to do exactly what you want. You might check the distribution
 disk of your word processor program, too. For years, Corel has
 distributed a music symbol font with Word Perfect, but you have to find
 it in the included fonts and install it. I expect that most of the other
 word processors also include a music symbol font. Also, most of the free
 font sites online have downloadable music symbol fonts for MAC, for
 example, http://www.fontspace.com/dvm-publications/metdemo.

 No need to worry about baselines with any of these.

 ns

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