[Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?

2014-04-05 Thread Craig Parmerlee
There are a bunch of bugs in the A version.  That smart find and paste 
is so messed up, it is practically unusable.  Half the time, when 
copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the 
target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it 
no longer finds matches properly.  It worked fine for me up through 2012.

This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 
hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually.

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Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?

2014-04-05 Thread Chuck Israels
Yes, there are bugs.  The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to 
the end of the measure.  It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly 
unusable.  There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling issues 
that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation difficult, 
and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy Entry 
(erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation among entry 
points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use of the mouse - not at all 
convenient.  This is the first time I've been so frustrated with an upgrade.  


On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote:

 There are a bunch of bugs in the A version.  That smart find and paste 
 is so messed up, it is practically unusable.  Half the time, when 
 copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the 
 target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it 
 no longer finds matches properly.  It worked fine for me up through 2012.
 
 This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 
 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually.
 
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Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES

2014-04-05 Thread dr.a.s. weinstangel
Fin2012c. WIN8.1 64-bit

Never had these problems before:

In the middle of playback some staves get stuck and keep holding the same 
note(s) until  Finale is closed. Or, while playing, inexplicably starts to play 
from another spot, on top of the current playback.

And BTW: is it possible to prevent arpeggio-ing of every pizzicato chord in the 
strings? Really annoying!

Thanks for your help!

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Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?

2014-04-05 Thread J D Thomas
There is also a startup bug for those with Apple displays.  Forced me back to 
the pre-A version.  

From the sounds of Chuck and Craig, that's where I'll stay.

J D Thomas
ThomaStudios

On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote:

 There are a bunch of bugs in the A version.  That smart find and paste 
 is so messed up, it is practically unusable.  Half the time, when 
 copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the 
 target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it 
 no longer finds matches properly.  It worked fine for me up through 2012.
 
 This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 
 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually.
 
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Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES

2014-04-05 Thread Peter Taylor
From: dr.a.s. weinstangel dr...@hotmail.com
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES


 Fin2012c. WIN8.1 64-bit

 Never had these problems before:

 In the middle of playback some staves get stuck and keep holding the 
 same note(s) until  Finale is closed. Or, while playing, inexplicably 
 starts to play from another spot, on top of the current playback.

This happens to me when two instruments are sharing the same MIDI channel 
and they hit the same note at the same time.  The answer (for me) was to 
give them a separate channel each.

 And BTW: is it possible to prevent arpeggio-ing of every pizzicato chord 
 in the strings? Really annoying!

This sounds like a Human Playback issue.  I never use it so I can't help, 
sorry. 


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Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?

2014-04-05 Thread Mike Greensill
It's so slow and crashes all the timemost unusable upgrade ever.
Back to 2012.

Mike G.

www.mikegreensill.com


On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 9:56 AM, J D Thomas j...@thomastudios.com wrote:

 There is also a startup bug for those with Apple displays.  Forced me back
 to the pre-A version.

 From the sounds of Chuck and Craig, that's where I'll stay.

 J D Thomas
 ThomaStudios

 On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote:

  There are a bunch of bugs in the A version.  That smart find and paste
  is so messed up, it is practically unusable.  Half the time, when
  copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the
  target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it
  no longer finds matches properly.  It worked fine for me up through 2012.
 
  This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5
  hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually.
 
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Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?

2014-04-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Chuck,

I believe the trigger for the arrows not working in Speedy is when an autosave 
is triggered while a different application is in the foreground. The solution 
to this (and many other similar bugs in Fin2014) is to click in the menu bar. 
This restores focus to Finale — something that is supposed to happen when you 
switch back to Finale being the frontmost application. I've just gotten into 
the habit of always clicking in the titlebar whenever I switch back to Fin2014 
from a different app.

[This is a Mac-only issue as far as I know.]

Cheers,

- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org

On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:

 Yes, there are bugs.  The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to 
 the end of the measure.  It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly 
 unusable.  There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling 
 issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation 
 difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy 
 Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation 
 among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use of the mouse 
 - not at all convenient.  This is the first time I've been so frustrated with 
 an upgrade.  
 
 
 On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote:
 
 There are a bunch of bugs in the A version.  That smart find and paste 
 is so messed up, it is practically unusable.  Half the time, when 
 copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the 
 target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it 
 no longer finds matches properly.  It worked fine for me up through 2012.
 
 This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 
 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually.
 
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Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?

2014-04-05 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Darcy,

If this works, that will be a considerable help.  This is similar to what 
happens when you click Finale Playback and another app is in front and you 
can't stop the Finale playback until you bring Finale to the front again.  I 
will try this.  Thank you, Darcy.

Chuck


On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote:

 Hi Chuck,
 
 I believe the trigger for the arrows not working in Speedy is when an 
 autosave is triggered while a different application is in the foreground. The 
 solution to this (and many other similar bugs in Fin2014) is to click in the 
 menu bar. This restores focus to Finale — something that is supposed to 
 happen when you switch back to Finale being the frontmost application. I've 
 just gotten into the habit of always clicking in the titlebar whenever I 
 switch back to Fin2014 from a different app.
 
 [This is a Mac-only issue as far as I know.]
 
 Cheers,
 
 - DJA
 -
 WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
 
 On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Yes, there are bugs.  The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend 
 to the end of the measure.  It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature 
 nearly unusable.  There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - 
 scrolling issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making 
 navigation difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working 
 in Speedy Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making 
 navigation among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use 
 of the mouse - not at all convenient.  This is the first time I've been so 
 frustrated with an upgrade.  
 
 
 On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote:
 
 There are a bunch of bugs in the A version.  That smart find and paste 
 is so messed up, it is practically unusable.  Half the time, when 
 copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the 
 target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it 
 no longer finds matches properly.  It worked fine for me up through 2012.
 
 This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 
 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually.
 
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Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?

2014-04-05 Thread Craig Parmerlee
In my case, I think the hairpins went to beat 4 (not literally to the 
edge of the measure), but maybe that is what you mean.  And it doesn't 
screw up on all of them -- just some of them.  But it makes such a mess 
that you can't really use the tool.

I cannot recall whether this was broken at the base 2014 level of 
whether the A patch broke it.  Does anybody have a recollection of that?

Is there an easy way to back off the A patch, short of wiping out the 
installation and reinstalling again?

It surely seems that 3 months ought to be enough time for the company to 
fix some of these bugs.






On 4/5/2014 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
 Yes, there are bugs.  The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to 
 the end of the measure.  It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly 
 unusable.  There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling 
 issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation 
 difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy 
 Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation 
 among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use of the mouse 
 - not at all convenient.  This is the first time I've been so frustrated with 
 an upgrade.


 On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote:

 There are a bunch of bugs in the A version.  That smart find and paste
 is so messed up, it is practically unusable.  Half the time, when
 copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the
 target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it
 no longer finds matches properly.  It worked fine for me up through 2012.

 This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5
 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually.

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Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?

2014-04-05 Thread Chuck Israels
You were right!  This works.


On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi Darcy,
 
 If this works, that will be a considerable help.  This is similar to what 
 happens when you click Finale Playback and another app is in front and you 
 can't stop the Finale playback until you bring Finale to the front again.  I 
 will try this.  Thank you, Darcy.
 
 Chuck
 
 
 On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Chuck,
 
 I believe the trigger for the arrows not working in Speedy is when an 
 autosave is triggered while a different application is in the foreground. 
 The solution to this (and many other similar bugs in Fin2014) is to click in 
 the menu bar. This restores focus to Finale — something that is supposed to 
 happen when you switch back to Finale being the frontmost application. I've 
 just gotten into the habit of always clicking in the titlebar whenever I 
 switch back to Fin2014 from a different app.
 
 [This is a Mac-only issue as far as I know.]
 
 Cheers,
 
 - DJA
 -
 WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
 
 On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Yes, there are bugs.  The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend 
 to the end of the measure.  It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature 
 nearly unusable.  There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - 
 scrolling issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making 
 navigation difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop 
 working in Speedy Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) 
 making navigation among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require 
 the use of the mouse - not at all convenient.  This is the first time I've 
 been so frustrated with an upgrade.  
 
 
 On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote:
 
 There are a bunch of bugs in the A version.  That smart find and paste 
 is so messed up, it is practically unusable.  Half the time, when 
 copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the 
 target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it 
 no longer finds matches properly.  It worked fine for me up through 2012.
 
 This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 
 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually.
 
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Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?

2014-04-05 Thread Chuck Israels

On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:34 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote:

 In my case, I think the hairpins went to beat 4 (not literally to the 
 edge of the measure), but maybe that is what you mean.  

Yes, that's what I meant, and MM is aware of the bug, for whatever that is 
worth.




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[Finale] 16th note swing feel

2014-04-05 Thread Chris Magee
How do you create a swing feel at the 16th note level for playback, instead of 
at the 8th note level? I’m using Finale 2012 for Mac.
Thanks,
Chris

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[Finale] Administrative support

2014-04-05 Thread Kenneth M Williams


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Re: [Finale] 16th note swing feel

2014-04-05 Thread Christopher Smith
This is a bit of a kludge. Human Playback applies swing to notes that are HALF 
of whatever the denominator is in the time signature. So in 4/4, it will swing 
8ths. 

You would have to make the time signature 8/8 to get 16ths to swing. You can 
make it 8/8 but display in 4/4 (I suggest only doing that at the very end, as 
8/8 will disturb beaming and the like). Even at that, I suspect that HP will 
only swing what the denominator is in BAR 1, so if you want to change partway 
through the piece, this will involve another kludge.

What you would have to do is turn off HP, then apply the Human Playback plugin 
to ONLY the passage from the start up to the part you want double time. Then 
switch the time signature to 8/8, apply the plugin only to the double time 
passage, then switch it back to 4/4 and apply the HP plugin to the last 
passage. If you have several switches like this, it could take some time, and I 
doubt you will be able to switch in the middle of a bar (that would involve 
ANOTHER kludge, namely 2 bars of 4/8 instead of one bar of 8/8).

Good luck, and report back if there are problems (I suspect there will be!)

Christopher


On Sat Apr 5, at SaturdayApr 5 5:12 PM, Chris Magee wrote:

 How do you create a swing feel at the 16th note level for playback, instead 
 of at the 8th note level? I’m using Finale 2012 for Mac.
 Thanks,
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Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?

2014-04-05 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2014-04-05 22:34, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
 In my case, I think the hairpins went to beat 4 (not literally to the
 edge of the measure), but maybe that is what you mean.  And it doesn't
 screw up on all of them -- just some of them.  But it makes such a mess
 that you can't really use the tool.

Have you sent a bug report to MM that has been confirmed?

If you want, you could send me a bug file as well, with reproducible 
steps, and I could forward it on the beta channel if needed.


Best regards,

Jari Williamsson


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Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?

2014-04-05 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Jari,

According to my conversation with one of the tech support people, MM is aware 
of this bug.

Chuck


On Apr 5, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Jari Williamsson 
jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote:

 On 2014-04-05 22:34, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
 In my case, I think the hairpins went to beat 4 (not literally to the
 edge of the measure), but maybe that is what you mean.  And it doesn't
 screw up on all of them -- just some of them.  But it makes such a mess
 that you can't really use the tool.
 
 Have you sent a bug report to MM that has been confirmed?
 
 If you want, you could send me a bug file as well, with reproducible 
 steps, and I could forward it on the beta channel if needed.
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Jari Williamsson
 
 
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Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES

2014-04-05 Thread dr.a.s. weinstangel
Thanks Peter;

But, it isn't the case. String quartet; each instrument on its own channel (1 
-4); and - out of nowhere - it starts playing from some other spot on top of 
the current playback #$%^*!

Dr.A.S.Weinstangel

sasha.weinstan...@utoronto.ca 
NEW!  cel.647-292-4605


 From: pe...@euphonium.plus.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 18:43:41 +0100
 Subject: Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES
 
 From: dr.a.s. weinstangel dr...@hotmail.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES
 
 
  Fin2012c. WIN8.1 64-bit
 
  Never had these problems before:
 
  In the middle of playback some staves get stuck and keep holding the 
  same note(s) until  Finale is closed. Or, while playing, inexplicably 
  starts to play from another spot, on top of the current playback.
 
 This happens to me when two instruments are sharing the same MIDI channel 
 and they hit the same note at the same time.  The answer (for me) was to 
 give them a separate channel each.
 
  And BTW: is it possible to prevent arpeggio-ing of every pizzicato chord 
  in the strings? Really annoying!
 
 This sounds like a Human Playback issue.  I never use it so I can't help, 
 sorry. 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES

2014-04-05 Thread Phil Buglass
I had this problem a while ago, but I can't 
remember the fix.  Call tech support - they 
sorted it out with me, no problems.  We ran a 
couple of tests and they had the answer.  I just 
tried digging through my old emails, but I can't find the relevant ones, sorry.

Phil.

At 06:41 PM 4/5/2014, you wrote:
Thanks Peter;

But, it isn't the case. String quartet; each 
instrument on its own channel (1 -4); and - out 
of nowhere - it starts playing from some other 
spot on top of the current playback #$%^*!

Dr.A.S.Weinstangel

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  From: pe...@euphonium.plus.com
  To: finale@shsu.edu
  Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 18:43:41 +0100
  Subject: Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES
 
  From: dr.a.s. weinstangel dr...@hotmail.com
  To: finale@shsu.edu
  Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES
 
 
   Fin2012c. WIN8.1 64-bit
  
   Never had these problems before:
  
   In the middle of playback some staves get stuck and keep holding the
   same note(s) until  Finale is closed. Or, while playing, inexplicably
   starts to play from another spot, on top of the current playback.
 
  This happens to me when two instruments are sharing the same MIDI channel
  and they hit the same note at the same time.  The answer (for me) was to
  give them a separate channel each.
 
   And BTW: is it possible to prevent arpeggio-ing of every pizzicato chord
   in the strings? Really annoying!
 
  This sounds like a Human Playback issue.  I never use it so I can't help,
  sorry.
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?

2014-04-05 Thread Craig Parmerlee
It really is a shame because 2014 is a good release in many respects.  
The Windows version has caused me relatively few problems, but this 
smart copy one is enough to drive one batty.

I had hoped they had turned the corner after taking so much time to get 
2014 out.

I compare Finale with Cakewalk.  I am a regular Sonar user.  There are 
many similarities between the companies.  Both have been around decades 
and have a large, loyal, extremely forgiving user base.  Both companies 
got into financial difficulties and went through massive ownership 
changes.  In Cakewalk's case, they were acquired by Roland for a number 
of years.  During that time, they tried to advance the state of the art 
with their X1 and X2 platforms.  Those packages were impressive, but so 
loaded with bugs they lost many users and couldn't attract new users.  
Their ownership thought the path forward was to keep developing new 
stuff and not attend to the bugs.

It really came almost to riot proportions among the user base. There 
were many good people at Cakewalk, just as I am sure the same is true of 
Finale.  And I'm sure none of them felt good about having such a poor 
quality product on the market.  That didn't really change until Gibson 
bought Cakewalk.  That was about the time that they released X3.  While 
X3 continued strong technology leadership, there was clearly a huge 
effort put into cleaning up long-standing bugs.  Most notably, in the 6 
months that X3 has been out, there have been 5 major patch levels.  
There are still a few bugs, of course, but the user base is wildly 
enthusiastic now and actively recommending the product to colleagues.

I'm not saying that a product must have one big patch release every 30 
days, but a product with as many issues as Finale really deserves more 
than one patch release in 5 months.




On 4/5/2014 2:38 PM, Mike Greensill wrote:
 It's so slow and crashes all the timemost unusable upgrade ever.
 Back to 2012.

 Mike G.


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