[Finale] Arpeggio Playback Suddenly Won't Work
Finale 2012c, Win 7/64 Hello, Does anyone know why a particular document won't playback arpeggios as rolled chords with or without human playback? The setting is correct--change attack 0 to -256. I added the obligatory 1st measure rest, so the first arpeggios rolls, but none roll after that. I'm using SoftSynth grand piano or Garritan Steinway. Arpeggios playback as rolled chords in my other documents, and nothing appears different in this document. I've deleted re-entered the arpeggios numerous times, and even tried copying the music to a new document, but the problem persists. I experimented with a few chords in a third new document, and it works fine. Sincerely, Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Automatic Update Layout won't stay selected in Windows 2012c
Dell Latitude D830, Win 7-64, Finale 2012c Under Program Options/Edit, I check “Automatic Update Layout,” followed by Apply/OK. I then make sure that both Save/Load window states when editing/opening file are checked. However: Problem 1: The Program Options checkmark disappears erratically—ALWAYS when I re-open a saved document, and repeatedly WHILE I’m working on a document. At regular, short intervals I go to Program Options/Edit, generally find it unchecked again—for no observable reason. Problem 2: According to the Help manual, “Checking this option also checks Automatic Update Layout under the Edit menu.” Automatic Update Layout is under my Utilities menu, not the Edit menu, and there is no option to put a check there. I can click on it all day, and no check mark appears. The really annoying thing is that if Automatic Update Layout is unchecked under Program Options, my Finale crashes nearly every time I try to Insert measures. To protect my data, I finally set Autosave for every 5 minutes. I researched this Insert problem and found the following: There are certain instances where Finale can crash if Automatic Update Layout is turned off. To correct this: 1. Go to the Finale menu and choose Preferences Program Options. 2. Click on the edit tab 3. Check the box marked Automatic Update Layout. 4. Click Apply and OK to return to the score. But, of course, my “Automatic Updated Layout” won’t stay selected. What am I missing here? Everything else seems to work fine. Another question: Specifically where are “Preferences” in Windows? Or, are Preferences named something else in Windows? Sincerely (but exasperated), Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Beaming Groups of Tuplet 16ths
Thanks so much. Eric's instructions were perfect, and I appreciated the copy/filter suggestion since there are a couple instances in this composition. Patricia Spedden From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith [christopher.sm...@videotron.ca] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 8:15 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Beaming Groups of Tuplet 16ths Eric tells the truth. If you have a whole bunch of them, you may be despairing of the amount of mouse-clicks it will take, but fortunately you can copy ONLY beam alterations without copying the notes or other things, by setting the filter. The triplets would have to be on the same beat in the bar to copy easily, but that should be a problem. Also JW Pattern (free 3rd party plugin) will copy beaming easily. Christopher On Wed Jul 16, at WednesdayJul 16 3:43 AM, Eric Fiedler wrote: Hi Patricia, Have you tried Special Tools Secondary Beam Break Tool? Click on beams. Select the forth box from the left and press enter. A dialog appears asking what to do. Tell it Break only and check 16th. It just worked for me. Hope this helps. Eric * Habsburger Verlag Frankfurt (Dr. Fiedler) www.habsburgerverlag.de webmas...@habsburgerverlag.de * Am 16.07.2014 um 07:53 schrieb Patricia Spedden psped...@huntington.edu: Does anyone know how to beam two groups of 16th note triplets with an 8th beam to clearly show two halves of one beat? When I press the slash key, it automatically beams both sets of triplet 16ths with a continuous 6-note double beam, and I need to show the rhythm more clearly. Sincerely, Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Beaming Groups of Tuplet 16ths
Does anyone know how to beam two groups of 16th note triplets with an 8th beam to clearly show two halves of one beat? When I press the slash key, it automatically beams both sets of triplet 16ths with a continuous 6-note double beam, and I need to show the rhythm more clearly. Sincerely, Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor
That DID solve the problem: b2, #3, #4, #6, #7. Thank you so much for this solution and for taking your time to help. Sincerely, Patricia Spedden From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Michael [launay-c...@gmx.net] Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:07 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor Humble apologies: I inverted sharps and flats! The default spelling for minor keys is: b2, #3, #4, #6, #7 That should solve the problem. Michael On 4 Jul 2014, at 06:08, Patricia Spedden psped...@huntington.edu wrote: Thank you for taking the time to offer suggestions. I must really be doing something wrong. My dialog box does not even provide the options you suggest--#2, b3, b6, or b7. I tried to send an attachment with a screen shot of my dialog box, but the attachment was too large to send. So, I'll list below the only options available to me in my Edit Major Minor Key Spellings dialog box: Minor Keys Fixed Scale Step Altered Scale Step Raise #1 #3 #4 #6 #7 Lower b2 b4 b5 b7 b8 The Fixed Scale Step option offers the natural minor scale form, which is what you get when using Default Spelling. I see no way to change the Altered Scale Steps options available to provide the needed 1-½ steps between scale steps 7 8 to get the harmonic minor--and as you can see, your suggested #2, b3, b6 don’t appear to be available. Please advise. Patricia Spedden From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Michael [launay-c...@gmx.net] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 7:32 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor I just tried this: Key set to G minor (“Minor Key” is chosen in the Key Signature dialog). Enharmonic Spelling is set to “Use Spelling Tables”. Minor Key Spelling table is set to default: #2, b3, b4, b6, b7. If I enter an F# using my MIDI keyboard, an F# appears in the score. Do you not get this result with the settings above? Best wishes, Michael On 3 Jul 2014, at 06:11, Patricia Spedden psped...@huntington.edu wrote: In response to Christopher: Thank you for your response. Actually, I couldn't figure out how to use the spelling tables either. Under Minor Keys, the default altered notes are #6 #7, but that does not result in a raised 7th. The other two choices are b7 b8. I've tried every combination of those options, but still get a Gb instead of an F# in the key of G harmonic minor. What am I doing wrong here? I do bounce between Favor Sharps/Favor Flats, but that gets cumbersome, and sometimes I need both, as with an augmented III chord. Thanks, too, for the helpful info on importing MIDI. Patricia Spedden From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith [christopher.sm...@videotron.ca] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:12 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor Hi PAtricia, Under the Finale 2012 menu, in Enharmonic Spelling, if I choose Use Spelling Tables that gives me automatically an F# in Gminor when I am using Speedy Entry with a MIDI controller. I don't understand why that wouldn't be part of Use Default Spelling but maybe you could open a tech support case to complain about it. It makes no sense to me, either. I generally, however, use Favor Sharps or Favor Flats, and have set keyboard shortcuts to switch quickly between them. For G harm minor, I would use Favour Sharps to make the 7th degree show up as F#. As for the second question, I would always use Tracks Become Staves. This means that if the maker of the MIDI file put the same alto sax sound on the same channel on two different staves (Alto Sax 1 and Alto Sax 2, for example), it would show up on two different staves, but they hardly ever do that. Channels Become Staves would combine them. If I need to combine something, I know how Implode Music in Finale works. The Set Track-to-Staff list means that you already know what the MIDI file has, and you want it to import a certain way. This is a terrible option, because the only way to know this is if you created the MIDI file yourself, in which case you should make it the way you want it already. Christopher On Wed Jul 2, at WednesdayJul 2 10:35 PM, Patricia Spedden wrote: Finale 2012c, Win 7-64 Hello, I have 2 questions: 1. Does anyone know how to set a minor key signature that will automatically raise the 7th scale step (rather than lowering tonic 1/2 step) when using harmonic minor? For example, in G harmonic minor, every F# appears as a Gb. After years of manually raising the 7th scale tone, I'm wondering if there is a way for Finale to raise it automatically. I've looked at the nonstandard menu (although harmonic minor
Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor
Thank you for your suggestions. Michael's solution was perfect: b2, #3, #4, #6, #7 for a harmonic minor scale. Sincerely, Patricia Spedden From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Haroldo Mauro [hma...@hmauro.com] Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 9:03 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor That is correct. But it seems that for some reason she had b8 selected instead of #7 in the Key Spelling Dialog. So I figured all she wants is to select #7. Harold On 04/07/2014, at 08:25, Giovanni Andreani wrote: I thought that just by selecting a minor key the correct use of the sixth and the seventh degrees would be automatically handled in the correct way Giovanni Andreani On 4 Jul 2014, at 12:07, Michael launay-c...@gmx.net wrote: Humble apologies: I inverted sharps and flats! The default spelling for minor keys is: b2, #3, #4, #6, #7 That should solve the problem. Michael On 4 Jul 2014, at 06:08, Patricia Spedden psped...@huntington.edu wrote: Thank you for taking the time to offer suggestions. I must really be doing something wrong. My dialog box does not even provide the options you suggest--#2, b3, b6, or b7. I tried to send an attachment with a screen shot of my dialog box, but the attachment was too large to send. So, I'll list below the only options available to me in my Edit Major Minor Key Spellings dialog box: Minor Keys Fixed Scale Step Altered Scale Step Raise #1 #3 #4 #6 #7 Lower b2 b4 b5 b7 b8 The Fixed Scale Step option offers the natural minor scale form, which is what you get when using Default Spelling. I see no way to change the Altered Scale Steps options available to provide the needed 1-½ steps between scale steps 7 8 to get the harmonic minor--and as you can see, your suggested #2, b3, b6 don’t appear to be available. Please advise. Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor
Thank you for taking the time to offer suggestions. I must really be doing something wrong. My dialog box does not even provide the options you suggest--#2, b3, b6, or b7. I tried to send an attachment with a screen shot of my dialog box, but the attachment was too large to send. So, I'll list below the only options available to me in my Edit Major Minor Key Spellings dialog box: Minor Keys Fixed Scale Step Altered Scale Step Raise #1 #3 #4 #6 #7 Lower b2 b4 b5 b7 b8 The Fixed Scale Step option offers the natural minor scale form, which is what you get when using Default Spelling. I see no way to change the Altered Scale Steps options available to provide the needed 1-½ steps between scale steps 7 8 to get the harmonic minor--and as you can see, your suggested #2, b3, b6 don’t appear to be available. Please advise. Patricia Spedden From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Michael [launay-c...@gmx.net] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 7:32 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor I just tried this: Key set to G minor (“Minor Key” is chosen in the Key Signature dialog). Enharmonic Spelling is set to “Use Spelling Tables”. Minor Key Spelling table is set to default: #2, b3, b4, b6, b7. If I enter an F# using my MIDI keyboard, an F# appears in the score. Do you not get this result with the settings above? Best wishes, Michael On 3 Jul 2014, at 06:11, Patricia Spedden psped...@huntington.edu wrote: In response to Christopher: Thank you for your response. Actually, I couldn't figure out how to use the spelling tables either. Under Minor Keys, the default altered notes are #6 #7, but that does not result in a raised 7th. The other two choices are b7 b8. I've tried every combination of those options, but still get a Gb instead of an F# in the key of G harmonic minor. What am I doing wrong here? I do bounce between Favor Sharps/Favor Flats, but that gets cumbersome, and sometimes I need both, as with an augmented III chord. Thanks, too, for the helpful info on importing MIDI. Patricia Spedden From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith [christopher.sm...@videotron.ca] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:12 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor Hi PAtricia, Under the Finale 2012 menu, in Enharmonic Spelling, if I choose Use Spelling Tables that gives me automatically an F# in Gminor when I am using Speedy Entry with a MIDI controller. I don't understand why that wouldn't be part of Use Default Spelling but maybe you could open a tech support case to complain about it. It makes no sense to me, either. I generally, however, use Favor Sharps or Favor Flats, and have set keyboard shortcuts to switch quickly between them. For G harm minor, I would use Favour Sharps to make the 7th degree show up as F#. As for the second question, I would always use Tracks Become Staves. This means that if the maker of the MIDI file put the same alto sax sound on the same channel on two different staves (Alto Sax 1 and Alto Sax 2, for example), it would show up on two different staves, but they hardly ever do that. Channels Become Staves would combine them. If I need to combine something, I know how Implode Music in Finale works. The Set Track-to-Staff list means that you already know what the MIDI file has, and you want it to import a certain way. This is a terrible option, because the only way to know this is if you created the MIDI file yourself, in which case you should make it the way you want it already. Christopher On Wed Jul 2, at WednesdayJul 2 10:35 PM, Patricia Spedden wrote: Finale 2012c, Win 7-64 Hello, I have 2 questions: 1. Does anyone know how to set a minor key signature that will automatically raise the 7th scale step (rather than lowering tonic 1/2 step) when using harmonic minor? For example, in G harmonic minor, every F# appears as a Gb. After years of manually raising the 7th scale tone, I'm wondering if there is a way for Finale to raise it automatically. I've looked at the nonstandard menu (although harmonic minor is hardly nonstandard), and cannot figure it out. In a long document with thick chords, it takes quite a while to correct all the 7ths. 2. When importing a free MIDI file, how do you know which of the first 3 options to select in the dialog box--if you don't know how the author set up the tracks/channels? (The 3 options are Tracks Become Staves, Channels Become Staves, and Set Track-to-Staff List.) Or, do those choices allow you to reset tracks/channels in the MIDI file to your own needs? With appreciation, Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu
[Finale] Harmonic Minor
Finale 2012c, Win 7-64 Hello, I have 2 questions: 1. Does anyone know how to set a minor key signature that will automatically raise the 7th scale step (rather than lowering tonic 1/2 step) when using harmonic minor? For example, in G harmonic minor, every F# appears as a Gb. After years of manually raising the 7th scale tone, I'm wondering if there is a way for Finale to raise it automatically. I've looked at the nonstandard menu (although harmonic minor is hardly nonstandard), and cannot figure it out. In a long document with thick chords, it takes quite a while to correct all the 7ths. 2. When importing a free MIDI file, how do you know which of the first 3 options to select in the dialog box--if you don't know how the author set up the tracks/channels? (The 3 options are Tracks Become Staves, Channels Become Staves, and Set Track-to-Staff List.) Or, do those choices allow you to reset tracks/channels in the MIDI file to your own needs? With appreciation, Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor
In response to Christopher: Thank you for your response. Actually, I couldn't figure out how to use the spelling tables either. Under Minor Keys, the default altered notes are #6 #7, but that does not result in a raised 7th. The other two choices are b7 b8. I've tried every combination of those options, but still get a Gb instead of an F# in the key of G harmonic minor. What am I doing wrong here? I do bounce between Favor Sharps/Favor Flats, but that gets cumbersome, and sometimes I need both, as with an augmented III chord. Thanks, too, for the helpful info on importing MIDI. Patricia Spedden From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith [christopher.sm...@videotron.ca] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:12 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor Hi PAtricia, Under the Finale 2012 menu, in Enharmonic Spelling, if I choose Use Spelling Tables that gives me automatically an F# in Gminor when I am using Speedy Entry with a MIDI controller. I don't understand why that wouldn't be part of Use Default Spelling but maybe you could open a tech support case to complain about it. It makes no sense to me, either. I generally, however, use Favor Sharps or Favor Flats, and have set keyboard shortcuts to switch quickly between them. For G harm minor, I would use Favour Sharps to make the 7th degree show up as F#. As for the second question, I would always use Tracks Become Staves. This means that if the maker of the MIDI file put the same alto sax sound on the same channel on two different staves (Alto Sax 1 and Alto Sax 2, for example), it would show up on two different staves, but they hardly ever do that. Channels Become Staves would combine them. If I need to combine something, I know how Implode Music in Finale works. The Set Track-to-Staff list means that you already know what the MIDI file has, and you want it to import a certain way. This is a terrible option, because the only way to know this is if you created the MIDI file yourself, in which case you should make it the way you want it already. Christopher On Wed Jul 2, at WednesdayJul 2 10:35 PM, Patricia Spedden wrote: Finale 2012c, Win 7-64 Hello, I have 2 questions: 1. Does anyone know how to set a minor key signature that will automatically raise the 7th scale step (rather than lowering tonic 1/2 step) when using harmonic minor? For example, in G harmonic minor, every F# appears as a Gb. After years of manually raising the 7th scale tone, I'm wondering if there is a way for Finale to raise it automatically. I've looked at the nonstandard menu (although harmonic minor is hardly nonstandard), and cannot figure it out. In a long document with thick chords, it takes quite a while to correct all the 7ths. 2. When importing a free MIDI file, how do you know which of the first 3 options to select in the dialog box--if you don't know how the author set up the tracks/channels? (The 3 options are Tracks Become Staves, Channels Become Staves, and Set Track-to-Staff List.) Or, do those choices allow you to reset tracks/channels in the MIDI file to your own needs? With appreciation, Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Finale 2012 Unstable
Hello, I have a Dell Latitude D830 XP3 laptop with Finale 2012, and last week began having problems with freeze-ups after login--although I could always boot up in safe mode. After consulting with Dell and several procedures, the laptop is working fine again. However, I just used Finale and found it very unstable--threatening to freeze up repeatedly. Finale 2012 has always worked well on this laptop, even with the older OS. Would anyone know if reinstalling Finale 2012 might help, and if there are any special precautions I should take? My scores are complex, but that has never been an issue before last week's problems. Sincerely, Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Add 3rd Stave to 2 Measures
Hello, Is it possible to add a 3rd staff to two measures of an otherwise 2-staff piano composition? Even when I select the staff needing the 3rd staff, it adds a 3rd staff to the entire composition. In the event that the only way to do this is to add a 3rd staff to the entire piece, how do I delete all the extra staves I don't need? I've tried copying the two 3-staff measures from earlier versions, but it always omits one of the staves when I paste and/or insert the copy. Finale 2012, Dell Latitude D830 XP. Please respond as soon as possible. Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Add 3rd Stave to 2 Measures
Thank you so much for the prompt response to my 3rd staff problem. It worked right away and perfectly. Also appreciate knowing what happened to the optimizing tool and where to find the substitute. Sincerely, Patricia Spedden -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Patricia Spedden Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 4:41 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Add 3rd Stave to 2 Measures Hello, Is it possible to add a 3rd staff to two measures of an otherwise 2-staff piano composition? Even when I select the staff needing the 3rd staff, it adds a 3rd staff to the entire composition. In the event that the only way to do this is to add a 3rd staff to the entire piece, how do I delete all the extra staves I don't need? I've tried copying the two 3-staff measures from earlier versions, but it always omits one of the staves when I paste and/or insert the copy. Finale 2012, Dell Latitude D830 XP. Please respond as soon as possible. Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Mystery Extra Pages
Does anyone know why there are extra pages when I print out a piece? I know, for example, that a piece has only 5 pages, but the printer setup shows a range of 10 pages. The extra pages do print out and appear to be earlier versions, but they are not observable from within the file. How can I get rid of these extra pages? I have Finale 2012 an XP Dell Latitude D830 laptop. I don't think it's virus-related. Sincerely, Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Metatool Problem Solution
Hello, I thought I should share a solution to my metatool problem that began a few months ago, since others have helped me so often. I could program metatools, and they would work in that file on another computer, but not on my Dell Latitude D830 XP3. I tried everything--freeing up memory, updating drivers, etc.--even enlisting the help of Finale technicians at MakeMusic, and was so frustrated that I was ready to buy a new computer and start over with Sibelius. In doing a clean re-install of Finale 2012, I noticed a 3rd party TouchFreeze program in my Task Manager Processes. I disabled it, and metatools have functioned perfectly since then. Apparently some third party programs do conflict with Finale for Windows. Hopefully, this info might save someone else a lot of time and frustration. Also, I found out from MakeMusic that Windows does have something akin to the Mac preferences file that can be trashed/reset and sometimes solve problems (although it didn't solve my metatool problem). They are hidden files and if anyone is interested, I would be glad to share the instructions. Sincerely, Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Continuing Metatool Problems
I continue to have problems getting metatools--specifically articulation metatools--to work. In past projects these have worked perfectly, but suddenly now they won't work. Each metatool seems to program just fine, but when I try to use them they rarely work. For example, I like to use numbers 1-5 for piano fingering numbers, but have to click on a note many, many times to get an occasional fingering number to appear. Often, the number I'm attempting to enter changes a previous finger number (that finally worked) instead of the note I'm actually clicking. Today, I upgraded to Finale 2012 for Windows XP2 on my Dell Latitude D830 laptop, and still no luck in getting the metatools to work more than occasionally. Very frustrating. Could it be a hardware problem? A memory problem? Windows XP blocking macros? My security programs blocking macros (Sophus, CC Cleaner, SuperAntiSpyware, MalwareBytes AntiMalware)? I've read advice to Mac users that they can discard a corrupt preferences file to sometimes correct this bug. What takes the place of the Mac Preferences file in Windows machines? I'd so much appreciate help with this. Sincerely, Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Articulation Metatools and Collisions
Thanks so much to Jari Williamsson for your help. Patricia Spedden -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Jari Williamsson Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 4:11 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Articulation Metatools and Collisions On 2011-11-05 06:55, Patricia Spedden wrote: 1. Would anyone know why I can't get articulation metatools to work in trying enter fingering numbers? They seem to program ok, but I have to click many times for them to work. After a dozen or so clicks, the intended number finally appears--but it's hardly worth the effort. Am I doing something wrong? Perhaps you're clicking above the note? You have to click on the notehead for articulations, even if they are going to appear way outside the note. 2. Are there any suggestions for avoiding articulation collisions other than making two sets of articulations at different heights? In pieces with many staccatos/accents/etc., every fingering number goes right on top of the articulation already there. Also, is there any way to set the Finale default so that articulations never collide with slurs? Rather than programming a different set of metatools, perhaps a workflow similar to this would work for you: 1. Enter the fingerings artics first 2. Drag-enclose all the fingerings and nudge them upwards with the arrow up key (to provide the extra space) 3. Enter the rest of the artics There is a inside slurs setting for articlations that will lift the slur (useful for staccati for example). Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Articulation Metatools and Collisions
Hello, I use Finale 2010b on my Dell Latitude D830, Windows XP2. I'm having two problems: 1. Would anyone know why I can't get articulation metatools to work in trying enter fingering numbers? They seem to program ok, but I have to click many times for them to work. After a dozen or so clicks, the intended number finally appears--but it's hardly worth the effort. Am I doing something wrong? 2. Are there any suggestions for avoiding articulation collisions other than making two sets of articulations at different heights? In pieces with many staccatos/accents/etc., every fingering number goes right on top of the articulation already there. Also, is there any way to set the Finale default so that articulations never collide with slurs? Please let me know if you have suggestions. With appreciation, Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Freeze when using hands-free MIDI method
Does anyone know why my Finale 2010b has suddenly begun freezing every few minutes when entering tuplets using the hands-free MIDI method? I have the latest 2010 update and use a Dell Latitude D830 with WinXP2. I generally use my old Roland MPU64 MIDI processor, but recently added a Roland UM-1EX MIDI Interface for portable use. I don't know if the latter changed something that might cause this. My computer is well-protected with antivirus anti-spyware programs. The same message comes up each time: Finale 2010 for Windows has encountered a problem and needs to close. There's also a Debug button. Please let me know if you have some suggestions. Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Freeze when using hands-free MIDI method
It's a great time-saver when entering a long passage of the same kind of irregular rhythmic groups (not just limited to tuplets)--if your program doesn't freeze, that is. For explanation/instructions in Windows, go to Help, Index, Speedy Entry, and then Entering many notes of the same value. Patricia Spedden -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Ryan Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 2:11 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Freeze when using hands-free MIDI method I don't have an answer, but I'm curious what the hands-free MIDI method of entering triplets is. I haven't heard that phrase before. On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Eric Dannewitz ericd...@jazz-sax.comwrote: Gotta love Windows.. Try trashing the Preferences file? -- Eric Dannewitz Musician/Polymath On Monday, July 11, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Patricia Spedden wrote: Does anyone know why my Finale 2010b has suddenly begun freezing every few minutes when entering tuplets using the hands-free MIDI method? I have the latest 2010 update and use a Dell Latitude D830 with WinXP2. I generally use my old Roland MPU64 MIDI processor, but recently added a Roland UM-1EX MIDI Interface for portable use. I don't know if the latter changed something that might cause this. My computer is well-protected with antivirus anti-spyware programs. The same message comes up each time: Finale 2010 for Windows has encountered a problem and needs to close. There's also a Debug button. Please let me know if you have some suggestions. Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu (mailto:Finale@shsu.edu) http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Beam 6 Eighth Notes in 3/4
Does anyone know how to custom beam 6 eighth notes in 3/4 meter, as is typically done in classical piano works such as Chopin waltzes? I can do it manually, but it's pretty time-intensive in a long piece. I only have the plug-ins that come with Finale 2010. Sincerely, Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Solution: Assign layers to different channels
Michael, This is a great solution! Thank you so much. And thanks to others who have responded. Patricia Spedden -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of mmathew1...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 1:44 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Assign layers to different channels? Yes. This appears to be a possible solution: Using the MIDI playback instrument list. Click the triangle to the left of each staff name: staff 1; staff 2, etc. and you will expose the list of layers and a couple of other parameters that can be assigned to various channels, patches, etc. Each layer is listed and as you move across to the right for each layer you will observe another arrowhead that lets you assign a new instrument/channel without changing the actual instrument that plays back. I believe that's how that's supposed to work? Does that help? With best wishes, Michael mmathew_musicp...@comcast.net mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl http://oregonmts.com/mathew/ Phone and Fax: 503 641 6127 - Original Message - From: Patricia Spedden psped...@huntington.edu To: Finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 9:19:10 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Finale] Assign layers to different channels? In writing two-stave, multi-layer piano scores, is it possible to assign each layer to a different channel in order to control voicing? If yes, how is that done? If no, is there some other way to voice multiple melodic lines in two-stave piano scores? If anyone has an answer, please respond as soon as possible. Sincerely, Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Assign layers to different channels?
In writing two-stave, multi-layer piano scores, is it possible to assign each layer to a different channel in order to control voicing? If yes, how is that done? If no, is there some other way to voice multiple melodic lines in two-stave piano scores? If anyone has an answer, please respond as soon as possible. Sincerely, Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Uneven Staff Lines
I have Finale 2008, Windows XP, have a problem with uneven staff lines in one system only in a project. Even if I delete that system, the next system moves up has the same uneven staff lines. The problem makes a treble staff 2nd line G look like a 2nd space A. Does anyone know what could be causing this? I haven't intentionally changed staff line thickness or fonts. Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Beaming 6 8th notes
How do you beam together 6 eighth notes in ¾ meter in a continuous left hand pattern? I can do it manually, but wonder if there is a way to do it automatically. If I beam the six 8th notes copy the measure, it breaks the beams into quarter note values. (I do know how to beam 4 8th notes in common time, but I need to beam 6 8th notes in ¾ time.) Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Fingerings for Piano
Is there an easy way to put in chord fingerings vertically for piano scores? At present, I have to manually separate line up vertical fingerings, which is time consuming. I am using fingering metatools. Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Fingerings for Piano
Thank you for responding. After sending my e-mail question, I stumbled on the following site which claims to have a piano fingering font that looks really good: http://home.arcor.de/ansgarkrause/. Best wishes, P. Spedden -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ThomaStudios Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 8:05 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Fingerings for Piano I've done the same thing using Articulations, which might be what you're already doing. But for multiple, stacked fingering for piano chords, it might work best to set up a variety of expressions by shape. You could get the spacing just the way you want. But you would have to define a different one for each combination of fingerings. I've tried this with arrangements I've done for my students, but in reality, it's a pain. I just stack up articulations using meta tools, and it goes pretty fast for me, since I'm used to it. If I have a lot of repetition of the same combinations, I use Robert's Mass Copy extensively. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Oct 5, 2007, at 3:34 PM, Patricia Spedden wrote: Is there an easy way to put in chord fingerings vertically for piano scores? At present, I have to manually separate line up vertical fingerings, which is time consuming. I am using fingering metatools. Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Channel Assignment, etc.
All of the systems have been locked (mass edit), but the strange problem persists. With various kinds of subterfuges, I've managed to delete all the unnecessary measures but one--but deleting that one measure skews the format of the 9 following pages. I've tried inserting a page break, but that doesn't work either. I think the underlying problem has to do with the extra staves that were added through the entire piece, even though I only intended them for 4 pages. Optimizing has only hidden the unnecessary staves; they're still there problematic, I think. Is there any way to add extra staves to only designated systems? Patricia Spedden From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Darcy James Argue Sent: Fri 6/16/2006 1:20 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Channel Assignment, etc. On 15 Jun 2006, at 10:20 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: Well, you might try turning off Edit | Automatic Update Layout. That will prevent Finale from doing anything with the layout behind your back. NOT recommended. This is not the problem here -- Automatic Update Layout does not (by default) *change* the layout, it only ensures there are no nasty surprises when it comes time to print the part. What Patricia wants is to LOCK the layout, which is easily done, and is perfectly compatible with Automatic Update Layout. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale All of the systems have been locked (mass edit), but the strange problem persists. With various kinds of subterfuges, I've managed to delete all the unnecessary measures but one--but deleting that one measure skews the format of the 9 following pages. I've tried inserting a page break, but that doesn't work either. I think the underlying problem has to do with the extra staves that were added through the entire piece, even though I only intended them for 4 pages. Optimizing has only hidden the unnecessary staves; they're still there problematic, I think. Is there any way to add extra staves to only designated systems? Patricia Spedden From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Darcy James Argue Sent: Fri 6/16/2006 1:20 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Channel Assignment, etc. On 15 Jun 2006, at 10:20 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: Well, you might try turning off Edit | Automatic Update Layout. That will prevent Finale from doing anything with the layout behind your back. NOT recommended. This is not the problem here -- Automatic Update Layout does not (by default) *change* the layout, it only ensures there are no nasty surprises when it comes time to print the part. What Patricia wants is to LOCK the layout, which is easily done, and is perfectly compatible with Automatic Update Layout. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Channel Assignment, etc.
To Aaron Sherber (and/or anyone with suggestions), Thank you for your speedy helpful response. One question about the Instrument List window: Since this is a piano solo, do I need a different type of piano for each channel? Ideally, it would be best if all channels could be Acoustic Grand Piano with different dynamics/ voicings for the various contrapuntal lines on each staff. Is this possible? Patricia Spedden From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Aaron Sherber Sent: Thu 6/15/2006 10:20 PM To: finale@shsu.edu; finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Channel Assignment, etc. At 07:56 PM 6/15/2006, Patricia Spedden wrote: 1. For dynamics/voicing control, is it possible to assign each staff (generally 2 staves, sometimes 3) to different channels after a piece is completed in Finale? Yes. Look in the User Manual under Instrument List Window. Much of this should be taken care of for you if you use the Wizard to create your new documents, but you can always do things yourself with the Instrument List. 2. Is it possible to assign each layer to different channels for complete dynamics/voicing control? Yes. This is the Instrument List window again. This window can be a little confusing; I would suggest giving it a try after reading the manual, and ask here if you have further questions after that. The problem is that when I try to delete any measures on page one, it moves 2 of the 4 staves on page 2 to a new page 3 + pushes 1 or 2 systems to the next page throughout the piece, which, of course, ruins the optimum page turn setup. Further, I can find no way to move the orphaned 2 staves ahead so they can be part of the original 4 staves. What am I doing wrong here? Well, you might try turning off Edit | Automatic Update Layout. That will prevent Finale from doing anything with the layout behind your back. To move things onto a new page (looking at the second part of your paragraph), select the Page Layout tool, right-click on a system, and choose Insert Page Break. 4. I haven't consulted this site since my last major project two years ago. I still receive the discussion list, but cannot access the archives, probably because I've forgotten my original password. How can I straighten this out, since I'm apparently still a member? Visit the link at the bottom of this email. At the very bottom it says, To unsubscribe from Finale, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options enter your subscription email address. Enter your email address there and push the button. On the bottom of the next page is a button to email you your current password. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To Aaron Sherber (and/or anyone with suggestions), Thank you for your speedy helpful response. One question about the Instrument List window: Since this is a piano solo, do I need a different type of piano for each channel? Ideally, it would be best if all channels could be Acoustic Grand Piano with different dynamics/ voicings for the various contrapuntal lines on each staff. Is this possible? Patricia Spedden From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Aaron Sherber Sent: Thu 6/15/2006 10:20 PM To: finale@shsu.edu; finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Channel Assignment, etc. At 07:56 PM 6/15/2006, Patricia Spedden wrote: 1. For dynamics/voicing control, is it possible to assign each staff (generally 2 staves, sometimes 3) to different channels after a piece is completed in Finale? Yes. Look in the User Manual under Instrument List Window. Much of this should be taken care of for you if you use the Wizard to create your new documents, but you can always do things yourself with the Instrument List. 2. Is it possible to assign each layer to different channels for complete dynamics/voicing control? Yes. This is the Instrument List window again. This window can be a little confusing; I would suggest giving it a try after reading the manual, and ask here if you have further questions after that. The problem is that when I try to delete any measures on page one, it moves 2 of the 4 staves on page 2 to a new page 3 + pushes 1 or 2 systems to the next page throughout the piece, which, of course, ruins the optimum page turn setup. Further, I can find no way to move the orphaned 2 staves ahead so they can be part of the original 4 staves. What am I doing wrong here? Well, you might try turning off Edit | Automatic Update Layout. That will prevent Finale from doing anything with the layout behind your back. To move things onto a new page (looking at the second part of your paragraph), select the Page Layout tool, right-click on a system, and choose Insert Page Break. 4. I haven't consulted this site since my last major project two years ago. I still receive the discussion list, but cannot
[Finale] Channel Assignment, etc.
To anyone who can help: I have several questions, but first, here's my equipment: Gateway Laptop, Windows XP, Finale 2006c, Roland 64-Channel Processor, a 16-channel piano sound module, SoftSynth. My compositions are all for piano solo. 1. For dynamics/voicing control, is it possible to assign each staff (generally 2 staves, sometimes 3) to different channels after a piece is completed in Finale? If so (or if it has to be assigned when setting up a project), how is this done? All I can find in the manual is info about assigning staves to channels when importing a MIDI file. 2. Is it possible to assign each layer to different channels for complete dynamics/voicing control? If so, how? If not, how does one make one voice (not staff, necessarily) louder than another when it's all for piano? 3. I have a peculiar problem with one 10-page piece, 4 of which have 3 staves per system, the remaining systems with 2 staves each. All systems in the piece are locked optimized--optimized because when I went to 3-stave systems part way through the piece, all the systems turned into 3 staves. The entire piece is set up for optimum page turns. The problem is that when I try to delete any measures on page one, it moves 2 of the 4 staves on page 2 to a new page 3 + pushes 1 or 2 systems to the next page throughout the piece, which, of course, ruins the optimum page turn setup. Further, I can find no way to move the orphaned 2 staves ahead so they can be part of the original 4 staves. What am I doing wrong here? 4. I haven't consulted this site since my last major project two years ago. I still receive the discussion list, but cannot access the archives, probably because I've forgotten my original password. How can I straighten this out, since I'm apparently still a member? I hope to hear from someone as soon as possible at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sincerely, Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] No Sound
It works! Apparently the channels settings weren't compatible. We changed Send MIDI Values from Only Channel 1 to All MIDI channels, and it works. Such a relief. Thank you again for taking your time to help us (novices) put together these disparate pieces of equipment. Patricia Spedden -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Kuhlmann Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 9:21 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] No Sound Patricia, My immediate reaction to your problem description is that the MIDI setup of the Proformance module at college differs from the setup on the tone generator which you use at home in some way related to either MIDI channel numbers or program numbers. Simply put, the equipment at home responds to the note on / off messages etc on the MIDI channels generated by Finale playback whereas the Proformance module at college ignores messages on the same channel(s). I assume that the Finale setup remains the same in each situation. You do not give enough detail about equipmet connections and setups to enable a good diagnosis and I am not familiar with any of the equipment you might be using other than Finale, but I would look at the following matters to ensure that both tone generators are setup compatibly: 1)Does the Proformance respond to the program numbers generated by Finale playback? I understand it is limited to 16 piano sounds; what program numbers does it respond to? I.e. is the instrument assignment (=program number assignment) in your Finale file compatible with the Proformance's capabilites? Therefore make sure that the MIDI program numbers generated by Finale are suitable. 2)Make sure that Finale Playback is generating messages on MIDI channels accessible by the Proformance module. Because it is a piano module, I assume that it is necessary for Finale to generate messages on a single channel only. If Finale is generating on several channels then the situation can be very problematical. Your home equipment might be set up to respond on all channels generated in your Finale setup, whereas the Proformance may not respond to the same channels. 3)So, is the Proformance responding to the to the same MIDI channels as your home sound module? Check the MIDI mode in which each generator is operating, considering in particular Mode 1 (Omni Mode = Omni On/Poly) vs Mode 3 (Poly Mode = Omni Off/Poly). In a studio situation with other synthesizers available, it is quite likely that a module like the Proformance would be setup to operate in Poly Mode; whereas a single synthesizer at home might default to Omni Mode for convenience. 4)If the Proformance is in Poly Mode and set to channel X, make sure that Finale playback generates on channel X also. If your home generator is also in Poly Mode you will need to change its channel number to X to match, but you need not change it if it is in Omni Mode. 5)If the Proformance is in Omni Mode and the program numbers are compatible then I can only suggest that the Proformance is not receiving any note messages and you should look at what might be happening at other points on the signal path between your laptop and the Proformance module. Kenneth Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Patricia Spedden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 7:48 PM Subject: [Finale] No Sound I teach at a college where we have purchased a number of Fastlane MIDI interfaces. They are used mainly with Macs. However, I have WinXP laptop that I'm trying to use at the college for a lengthy, urgent project with the following equipment: * Fastlane interface * Fatar Studio 90 master controller with no internal sounds * Proformance/1 16-bit piano module * Amplified speakers * Finale 2005 This all works fine at home with a Roland MPU64 USB interface which I've updated with an XP driver. I'd prefer to be able to use the MOTU with Finale at the college (so I don't have to disconnect everything daily), but can get no sound through the Proformance module using the MOTU. The MOTU in/out lights come on appropriately, but there's no sound. We have tried every possible configuration with no luck. Could anyone tell us how to make this work as soon as possible? (Dr.) Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] No Sound
I teach at a college where we have purchased a number of Fastlane MIDI interfaces. They are used mainly with Macs. However, I have WinXP laptop that I'm trying to use at the college for a lengthy, urgent project with the following equipment: * Fastlane interface * Fatar Studio 90 master controller with no internal sounds * Proformance/1 16-bit piano module * Amplified speakers * Finale 2005 This all works fine at home with a Roland MPU64 USB interface which I've updated with an XP driver. I'd prefer to be able to use the MOTU with Finale at the college (so I don't have to disconnect everything daily), but can get no sound through the Proformance module using the MOTU. The MOTU in/out lights come on appropriately, but there's no sound. We have tried every possible configuration with no luck. Could anyone tell us how to make this work as soon as possible? (Dr.) Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] No Sound
I teach at a college where we have purchased a number of Fastlane MIDI interfaces. They are used mainly with Macs. However, I have WinXP laptop that I'm trying to use at the college for a lengthy, urgent project with the following equipment: * Fastlane interface * Fatar Studio 90 master controller with no internal sounds * Proformance/1 16-bit piano module * Amplified speakers * Finale 2005 This all works fine at home with a Roland MPU64 USB interface which I've updated with an XP driver. I'd prefer to be able to use the MOTU with Finale at the college (so I don't have to disconnect everything daily), but can get no sound through the Proformance module using the MOTU. The MOTU in/out lights come on appropriately, but there's no sound. We have tried every possible configuration with no luck. Could anyone tell us how to make this work as soon as possible? (Dr.) Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] No Sound
Thank you so much for your speedy response. When I go to the college on Monday (it's some distance away), I'll check out every one of your suggestions. Thus far, It's been such a waste of time very frustrating. Hopefully, one of your suggestions will solve this. Patricia Spedden From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Kenneth Kuhlmann Sent: Sat 1/29/2005 9:21 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] No Sound Patricia, My immediate reaction to your problem description is that the MIDI setup of the Proformance module at college differs from the setup on the tone generator which you use at home in some way related to either MIDI channel numbers or program numbers. Simply put, the equipment at home responds to the note on / off messages etc on the MIDI channels generated by Finale playback whereas the Proformance module at college ignores messages on the same channel(s). I assume that the Finale setup remains the same in each situation. You do not give enough detail about equipmet connections and setups to enable a good diagnosis and I am not familiar with any of the equipment you might be using other than Finale, but I would look at the following matters to ensure that both tone generators are setup compatibly: 1)Does the Proformance respond to the program numbers generated by Finale playback? I understand it is limited to 16 piano sounds; what program numbers does it respond to? I.e. is the instrument assignment (=program number assignment) in your Finale file compatible with the Proformance's capabilites? Therefore make sure that the MIDI program numbers generated by Finale are suitable. 2)Make sure that Finale Playback is generating messages on MIDI channels accessible by the Proformance module. Because it is a piano module, I assume that it is necessary for Finale to generate messages on a single channel only. If Finale is generating on several channels then the situation can be very problematical. Your home equipment might be set up to respond on all channels generated in your Finale setup, whereas the Proformance may not respond to the same channels. 3)So, is the Proformance responding to the to the same MIDI channels as your home sound module? Check the MIDI mode in which each generator is operating, considering in particular Mode 1 (Omni Mode = Omni On/Poly) vs Mode 3 (Poly Mode = Omni Off/Poly). In a studio situation with other synthesizers available, it is quite likely that a module like the Proformance would be setup to operate in Poly Mode; whereas a single synthesizer at home might default to Omni Mode for convenience. 4)If the Proformance is in Poly Mode and set to channel X, make sure that Finale playback generates on channel X also. If your home generator is also in Poly Mode you will need to change its channel number to X to match, but you need not change it if it is in Omni Mode. 5)If the Proformance is in Omni Mode and the program numbers are compatible then I can only suggest that the Proformance is not receiving any note messages and you should look at what might be happening at other points on the signal path between your laptop and the Proformance module. Kenneth Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Patricia Spedden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 7:48 PM Subject: [Finale] No Sound I teach at a college where we have purchased a number of Fastlane MIDI interfaces. They are used mainly with Macs. However, I have WinXP laptop that I'm trying to use at the college for a lengthy, urgent project with the following equipment: * Fastlane interface * Fatar Studio 90 master controller with no internal sounds * Proformance/1 16-bit piano module * Amplified speakers * Finale 2005 This all works fine at home with a Roland MPU64 USB interface which I've updated with an XP driver. I'd prefer to be able to use the MOTU with Finale at the college (so I don't have to disconnect everything daily), but can get no sound through the Proformance module using the MOTU. The MOTU in/out lights come on appropriately, but there's no sound. We have tried every possible configuration with no luck. Could anyone tell us how to make this work as soon as possible? (Dr.) Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale winmail.dat___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
