Re: [Finale] Human Playback Sorcery

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

That has been the case for a while already!

I combine different movements into one wave file and have the playback from 
there, rather than the score (which is a PDF file). 

Sasha Weinstangel

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> On Sep 10, 2019, at 7:56 PM, Robert Patterson  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello List,
> 
> I am hoping someone has some wisdom for me. I have a bunch of separate
> files that I am trying to combine into a single document. Each of the
> separate files plays back as I expect it to, but when I copy/insert them
> into the new doc, things go off the rails. It ignores the tempo markings in
> about half of my expressions and instead picks semi-random quite different
> tempos.
> 
> The quality of the playback patches (specifically Choral Ahhs) is quite
> different, even though it is the same patch in both. (Both Garritan Finale
> Bank Choral Ahhs.) It sounds like the tones are chorusing, as if the track
> is being played simultaneously twice or more times.
> 
> Human playback (in the new file) completely ignores "rit" and "a tempo"
> markings. And it barely does hairpins.
> 
> Anyway, if any of you have any idea what's going on, please share.
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Re: [Finale] Dynamics & Arco/Pizz. Playback Problems in Large File

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Large files start to mess up the playback after a certain critical point. I am 
forced to keep the movements separate when creating wave files. 

Sometimes it helps to create invisible “human playback on” and “off”. 

Dr Weinstangel

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> On Jul 12, 2019, at 10:37 PM, Cuicatl Publications 
>  wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I have a large file of 1,000+ measures for a full opera. At some point,
> arco and pizz. stopped working. This was corrected using Data Dump in the
> Expressions playback settings. I have now found that the pizz. and arco
> Data Dump seems to have cancelled out dynamic expression playback. Has
> anyone had any of these issues or does this sound familiar? Finale 26 is
> being used on Mac Sierra. Thank you.
> 
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Re: [Finale] Parts to pdf

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Finale Win pdf export is buggy. 

Download and install (free) Bullzip printer. In Finale click Print, choose 
Bullzip as your printer and it will create Pdf file, which you can save in the 
same folder. 

I then create the cover and inside cover pages, place them and the saved file 
in the Pdf Binder and create the complete part or score. 

Good luck!

Dr. A.S. Weinstangel

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> On Jun 7, 2019, at 6:28 PM, David H. Bailey  wrote:
> 
>> On 6/7/2019 5:56 PM, Don Hart wrote:
>> I'm on a mac so I'm not sure how this all corresponds, but I select
>> everything I want to print in the Finale print dialog and choose "save to
>> pdf" in the pdf dropdown menu. (If the score and parts page sizes differ,
>> each has to be saved separately after adjusting page setup.)  Once I have
>> all the pdfs I put them in their own folder and make a zip file of that
>> folder.  To do this on a mac you select the folder and choose "Compress..."
>> from the file menu.  The zip file can then be sent as an attachment.
> [snip]
> 
> I think that what you're talking about is specific to Macs.  Windows doesn't 
> have a PDF creation routine built into the operating system the way that it 
> seems tha
> 
> Martin is on a Windows machine, and in Finale25 in the File/Export/PDF dialog 
> there is no option to save all the various parts as PDF files. It only works 
> on the particular score or part that you're viewing at the time.
> 
> In the File/Print dialog there is only the option to "print to a file" but in 
> the dialog to specify where to save the files the only option is to get .prn 
> files, which could then be spooled to the printer to get the proper output.
> 
> The best way for a Windows machine is to install a free PDF printer and 
> simply print the files to that printer, which will then save PDF files to 
> whichever folder is specified.
> 
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Re: [Finale] Two quick questions

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Hello Chuck at al.

The box unchecked. Rebooted Finale. The automatically placed numbers are not 
visible in the "Edit staff name", but are still there and positioning is all 
over the place:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tsmx9viokllyn6g/STAFF%20NAMES.jpg?dl=0
[https://www.dropbox.com/temp_thumb_from_token/s/tsmx9viokllyn6g?preserve_transparency=False=1200x1200_mode=4]

STAFF 
NAMES.jpg
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From: Finale  on behalf of Cisraels 

Sent: May 3, 2019 11:25 AM
To: Finale
Subject: Re: [Finale] Two quick questions




 I’m away from Finale at the moment, but there’s a check box in the score 
manager that’s checked by default to do this. I think you can simply un- check 
it and get the result you want.



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>
> On May 3, 2019 at 8:18 AM,  mailto:dr...@hotmail.com)>  
> wrote:
>
>
>
>  Fin26, Win10
>
>  1. How to prevent automatic numbering of staff names (perc.1, perc.2 etc.)? 
> It is causing me all kinds of problems.
>  2. There must be a way to globally simplify enharmonic spelling. Can't find 
> it anywhere.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help!
>
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[Finale] Two quick questions

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Fin26, Win10

  1.  How to prevent automatic numbering of staff names (perc.1, perc.2 etc.)? 
It is causing me all kinds of problems.
  2.  There must be a way to globally simplify enharmonic spelling. Can't find 
it anywhere.

Thanks in advance for your help!


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Re: [Finale] SOME IRRITATING BEHAVIORS

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

A big thank you to all who responded with useful tips! What a wonderful 
resource this group is and has been for decades!

Dr.A.S.Weinstangel

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From: Finale  on behalf of Robert Patterson 

Sent: January 21, 2019 12:48 PM
To: finale
Subject: Re: [Finale] SOME IRRITATING BEHAVIORS

Tuplet Brackets

Document Options->Tuplets
Select "Always Use Specified Shape"

Grace Note Spacing

Document Options->Music Spacing
Select Grace Note Spacing Keep Current.
Also consider turning off Automatic Music Spacing in Preferences->Edit

Note-Attached Glissandos
Use "Tab-Slide Tool" instead of "Line Tool"
You can control line thickness and endpoint spacing relative to noteheads
as follows:
Line thickness is in Smart Shape->Smartshape Options
Endpoint positioning is in Smart Shape->Smart Shape Placement. (Choose "Tab
Slide" from the pulldown menu.)

All of these are document-level options, so I set them in my template file
to get them in any new project.


On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 10:49 AM dr.a.s. weinstangel 
wrote:

> I wonder if anyone would have some suggestions regarding the following
> behaviours:
>
> Win10 Fin26.0.1.655
>
> Document preferences->Tuplets set to show number and bracket.  The same in
> Tuplets definition submenu. The bracket does NOT show up, unless the group
> is broken into smaller chunks.
>
> There are lots of glissandos in the score. If using the line in Smart
> Shapes, it is often invisible, and does not remain attached to the notes it
> is supposed to connect. If using the wiggly (“bend”) shape, it is much
> better visually, but even harder to place properly, as it even reverts to
> vertical if the space between the notes is smaller.
>
> These glissandos often go to a grace note. It would be desirable to have a
> bit more space to show the glissando. Moving the notes manually is useless,
> as the notes will jump back together the moment the next bar is clicked on.
>
> Placing a dot on the note at the end of a slur moves the slur above the
> dot, which is not wanted. It takes a lot of fiddling to place the slur back
> where it belongs, and often it will revert to the other setting on its own.
>
> I know it all sounds like pretty small stuff, but multiplied by over 40
> staves it all adds up to becoming a major irritation! Thank you in advance
> for your help.
>
>
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[Finale] SOME IRRITATING BEHAVIORS

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

I wonder if anyone would have some suggestions regarding the following  
behaviours:

Win10 Fin26.0.1.655

Document preferences->Tuplets set to show number and bracket.  The same in 
Tuplets definition submenu. The bracket does NOT show up, unless the group is 
broken into smaller chunks.

There are lots of glissandos in the score. If using the line in Smart Shapes, 
it is often invisible, and does not remain attached to the notes it is supposed 
to connect. If using the wiggly (“bend”) shape, it is much better visually, but 
even harder to place properly, as it even reverts to vertical if the space 
between the notes is smaller.

These glissandos often go to a grace note. It would be desirable to have a bit 
more space to show the glissando. Moving the notes manually is useless, as the 
notes will jump back together the moment the next bar is clicked on.

Placing a dot on the note at the end of a slur moves the slur above the dot, 
which is not wanted. It takes a lot of fiddling to place the slur back where it 
belongs, and often it will revert to the other setting on its own.

I know it all sounds like pretty small stuff, but multiplied by over 40 staves 
it all adds up to becoming a major irritation! Thank you in advance for your 
help.


Dr.A.S.Weinstangel

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Re: [Finale] COPIED SEGMENTS GET TRANSPOSED!

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Oyyy! Thank you!!!

Could not even imagine such a stupid feature; especially as a default setting!

Dr.A.S.Weinstangel

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From: Finale  on behalf of Christopher Smith 

Sent: January 18, 2019 2:00 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] COPIED SEGMENTS GET TRANSPOSED!

Under Preferences>Edit uncheck “respect instrument ranges when copying” and 
leave it unchecked.

This is the stupidest thing MakeMusic ever added as a “feature”. I can’t 
imagine anyone wanting this on, ever.

Christopher


> On Fri Jan 18, at FridayJan 18 1:26 PM, j...@thomastudios.com wrote:
>
> I am on a Mac, but the first thing you may want to check in SM is the 
> settings for the clef.  I have encountered this numerous times with 
> Contrabass, etc.  And it happens no matter what the transposition is.  Worth 
> a quick look.
>
> ***
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>
>
>
>> On Jan 18, 2019, at 10:06 AM, dr.a.s. weinstangel  wrote:
>>
>> Dear all;
>>
>> Fin2601.0.1.655 Win10
>>
>> I have created the string parts first and am now copy/pasting them into the 
>> blank score. Some segments end up transposed an octave down! "Out of range 
>> notes" are OFF, Score Manager shows transposition set to none, nothing 
>> unusual in the staff attributes etc. Any ideas?
>>
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[Finale] COPIED SEGMENTS GET TRANSPOSED!

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Dear all;

Fin2601.0.1.655 Win10

I have created the string parts first and am now copy/pasting them into the 
blank score. Some segments end up transposed an octave down! "Out of range 
notes" are OFF, Score Manager shows transposition set to none, nothing unusual 
in the staff attributes etc. Any ideas?

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Re: [Finale] OSSIA BARS

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Thank you Christopher!

I have happily followed your advice.

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From: Finale  on behalf of Christopher Smith 

Sent: December 12, 2018 3:01 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] OSSIA BARS

I would never touch the Ossia tool. It is a holdover from an earlier version of 
the Matrix, and is very difficult to kill.

A better way is to add another staff to your part, resize it if you want to, 
and use the Force Hide and Collapse staff style on it everywhere that you don’t 
need it. At this this method works consistently in a foreseeable fashion, 
unlike the Ossia Tool.

Christopher


> On Wed Dec 12, at WednesdayDec 12 2:58 PM, dr.a.s. weinstangel 
>  wrote:
>
> Fin26. Win10.
>
> In a string quartet there are occasional two and three bar segments with both 
> left hand pizz. and arco stuff mixed together and written with stems up and 
> down – rather difficult to read.
>
> I have tried to separate the two, placing the pizz. layer into the ossia 
> bars. It copies everything from the “source” bar. Is it possible to have 
> different materials in the ossia bar? Also, is it possible to create 2 and 
> 3-bar long ossias? Is there a better way to accomplish this?
>
> Thank you for your help!
>
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[Finale] OSSIA BARS

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Fin26. Win10.

In a string quartet there are occasional two and three bar segments with both 
left hand pizz. and arco stuff mixed together and written with stems up and 
down – rather difficult to read.

I have tried to separate the two, placing the pizz. layer into the ossia bars. 
It copies everything from the “source” bar. Is it possible to have different 
materials in the ossia bar? Also, is it possible to create 2 and 3-bar long 
ossias? Is there a better way to accomplish this?

Thank you for your help!

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[Finale] Huge V1 covering the notes in Speedy entry

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Win10 Fin2012c


A huge black V1 (I guess voice 1) appears preventing me from seeing the notes I 
am entering. I do not remember ever having to cope with this silly obstacle.


Please help!


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Re: [Finale] TRANSPOSITION CHANGE WITHIN THE PART

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Ye! Amazing!

Your help is much appreciated!  

“You’re braver than you believe and stronger than you seem, and smarter than 
you think Christopher (Robin)” 

Sasha Weinstangel

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> On Sep 5, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Christopher Smith 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don’t remember whether Finale 2012 has the new Change Instrument feature or 
> not. If it does, select the passage and go to the Utilities menu. If the last 
> item is Change Instrument, you’re in. Choose Alto Flute, and the 
> transposition, playback, and abbreviated staff name in the score will all 
> change for you automatically. 
> 
> If you only choose one measure, then the entire staff changes from that 
> measure to the end of the document.
> 
> This is a very useful feature. No more need to screw around with independent 
> key signatures and staff styles for transposition and the like. Whew.
> 
> Christopher
> 
> 
>> On Wed Sep 5, at WednesdaySep 5 10:36 AM, dr.a.s. weinstangel 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear colleagues;
>> 
>> 
>> Picc. changes to alto flute in G.
>> 
>> 
>> Win10 Fin2012c. Is it possible to get the correctly transposed playback?
>> 
>> 
>> TIA.
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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[Finale] TRANSPOSITION CHANGE WITHIN THE PART

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Dear colleagues;


Picc. changes to alto flute in G.


Win10 Fin2012c. Is it possible to get the correctly transposed playback?


TIA.


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Re: [Finale] MID-MEASURE CLEF

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Thank you! Did not know of that possibility. 

S. Weinstangel

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> On Aug 8, 2018, at 5:57 AM, Paolo Alberto Rismondo  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Here is, i.m.h.o, the best way to handle 'mid measure' clefs:
> 
> 1) Create the clef: ctrl-double click on the measure, get 'Change Clef' 
> window, and choice 'Create a movable mid-measure clef';
> 
> 2) Modify it: ctrl-click the handle of the clef you have just created, and 
> get 'Mid Measure Clef' window; edit the 'H', 'Orizontal offset' and 'V' 
> values, as they fits your need.
> 
> Probably a little bit of work will be necessary, but that is the surest way 
> to get things as one want to be.
> 
> all best.
> 
> 
> Il 07/08/2018 17:01, S Jones ha scritto:
>> That is correct. Only mid measure clefs will have a handle. Once you drag
>> it too close to the beginning/end of a measure it will jump into place
>> permanently and lose the handle.
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 10:45 AM dr.a.s. weinstangel 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you! That does it.
>>> 
>>> So, now there is the treble clef were it needs to be. And Finale adds bass
>>> clefs in front and behind it. The one behind it comes with a handle, and
>>> can be removed and one in front can not. Clearly, something is totally
>>> messed up with the Clef Tool.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 6, 2018, at 8:06 PM, Jón Kristinn Cortez 
>>> wrote:
>>>> SELECTION TOOL: select the part of measure where you want the clef
>>>> CLEF TOOL: double-click in the seleted part of measure and choose the
>>> clef
>>>> Cortez
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6 Aug 2018, at 19:16, dr.a.s. weinstangel  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fin2012c Win10
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Whichever method I use to place a new clef, it appears without a
>>> handle; therefore, it can not be placed in the middle of a measure.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any ideas, please?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dr.A.S.Weinstangel
>>>>> 
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Re: [Finale] MID-MEASURE CLEF

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Thank you! That does it. 

So, now there is the treble clef were it needs to be. And Finale adds bass 
clefs in front and behind it. The one behind it comes with a handle, and can be 
removed and one in front can not. Clearly, something is totally messed up with 
the Clef Tool. 



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> On Aug 6, 2018, at 8:06 PM, Jón Kristinn Cortez  wrote:
> 
> SELECTION TOOL: select the part of measure where you want the clef
> CLEF TOOL: double-click in the seleted part of measure and choose the clef
> 
> Cortez
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6 Aug 2018, at 19:16, dr.a.s. weinstangel  wrote:
>> 
>> Fin2012c Win10
>> 
>> 
>> Whichever method I use to place a new clef, it appears without a handle; 
>> therefore, it can not be placed in the middle of a measure.
>> 
>> 
>> Any ideas, please?
>> 
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[Finale] MID-MEASURE CLEF

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Fin2012c Win10


Whichever method I use to place a new clef, it appears without a handle; 
therefore, it can not be placed in the middle of a measure.


Any ideas, please?


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Re: [Finale] QUARTER TONE TRANSPOSITION

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Thank you, Robert! This should do it.


It is just this pitchwheel adjustment that I will need for playback, as each of 
the string quartet instruments have different quarter-tone scordaturas.


Well, I was young, green and restless when I wrote my 1st string quartet .


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From: Finale  on behalf of Robert Patterson 

Sent: July 29, 2018 1:29 PM
To: finale
Subject: Re: [Finale] QUARTER TONE TRANSPOSITION

A google search turns up this:

http://wardbaxter.com/education/QuarterTones_Finale.php
Quarter Tone Accidentals and Playback in 
Finale<http://wardbaxter.com/education/QuarterTones_Finale.php>
wardbaxter.com
Select the expression tool; Double-click on beat 3 of the first measure...the 
"Expression Selection" window appears; Scroll down to the bottom, and select 
the symbol you just created



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> Is it possible to get a quarter tone higher or lower playback for
> scordatura string parts?
>
>
> Thank you for your help!
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[Finale] QUARTER TONE TRANSPOSITION

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Is it possible to get a quarter tone higher or lower playback for scordatura 
string parts?


Thank you for your help!


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Re: [Finale] FAVOUR SHARPS

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Thank you Lee;

Went to Document options, the Manual 

Much appreciated

Dr A.S.Weinstangel

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> Edit->Enharmonic Spelling
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> -Lee
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> -Original Message-
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> Subject: [Finale] FAVOUR SHARPS
> 
> WIN10 Fin2012c.
> 
> 
> Where is "favor sharps" option, please?
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[Finale] FAVOUR SHARPS

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

WIN10 Fin2012c.


Where is "favor sharps" option, please?


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Re: [Finale] time signatures in parts

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Fin 2012c; Win10


I have somehow set nice, big, chunky time signatures in a score a few years 
ago. I am now unable to change the size and positioning in the extracted parts. 
Please help!


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Re: [Finale] ENGRAVING FILES

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In the package of PDF files of some instrumental parts that I have received 
were also included Engraving files (M-Tx, PMX and TeX).


As the page turns are all in wrong places I was curious if any of these formats 
would be importable into Finale 2012c, Win10?


Thank you for your help!


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Re: [Finale] REPEAT SIGN INSIDE A BAR

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Thank you!


Did not know that such a plugin existed [☹]


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From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu <finale-boun...@shsu.edu> on behalf of Allen 
Fisher <al...@fisherartandtech.com>
Sent: March 31, 2017 11:07 AM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] REPEAT SIGN INSIDE A BAR

Or use the mid-measure repeat plugin.

Allen

> On Mar 29, 2017, at 12:04 PM, Eric Dannewitz <ericd...@jazz-sax.com> wrote:
>
> So, if it is a 4/4 bar, I’d make it two 2/4 bars (or a 3/4 and a 1/4), and 
> hide the time signatures and put the repeat in where you need it.
>
>
>> On Mar 29, 2017, at 6:40 AM, dr.a.s. weinstangel <dr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all;
>>
>>
>> Never encountered this little problem before:
>>
>>
>> How would you go about placing a repeat sign in the middle of a measure?
>>
>>
>> TIA for your help.
>>
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Re: [Finale] REPEAT SIGN INSIDE A BAR

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Thank you!

I've also figured out that possibility. 

Was just hoping that there was a way of placing it "after the barline" like a 
clef, or dragging it to a location:-)



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> On Mar 29, 2017, at 1:03 PM, "j...@thomastudios.com" <j...@thomastudios.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I’ve done this occasionally, and the only way I’ve been able to achieve it is 
> my creating a measure expression and placing it in the file.  If it’s a score 
> with multiple staves, use an expression set for All Staves.  It’s a bit of a 
> kludge, but it does work.
> 
> 
> ***
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> 
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2017, at 6:40 AM, dr.a.s. weinstangel <dr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear all;
>> 
>> 
>> Never encountered this little problem before:
>> 
>> 
>> How would you go about placing a repeat sign in the middle of a measure?
>> 
>> 
>> TIA for your help.
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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[Finale] REPEAT SIGN INSIDE A BAR

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Dear all;


Never encountered this little problem before:


How would you go about placing a repeat sign in the middle of a measure?


TIA for your help.


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Re: [Finale] VVOT: translation from Hebrew

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Hello Barbara;


There are a number of free online Hebrew prayer books, with Hebrew and 
translation into English. (See, for example, http://app.chailifeline.org/full/  
  or 
http://www.chabad.org/library/siddur/default_cdo/aid/1495868/jewish/Siddur.htm#!/aid:2349532/title:%D7%9E%D7%95%D6%B9%D7%93%D6%B6%D7%94%20%D7%90%D6%B2%D7%A0%D6%B4%D7%99%20-%20Morning%20Blessings


However, problems with transliterations are many; often they come from the 
"dialect" pronunciation of - say - Ashkenazic (Central and Eastern European 
Jews), which are different than "proper" Israeli Hebrew. You can always try 
pasting a particular text into your browser's search box, but tracing a Hebrew 
text back from its transliteration may often be difficult or impossible.


A friend with even basic knowledge of Hebrew prayers (or a quick online course 
for yourself) would be your best solution.



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From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu  on behalf of Barbara 
Touburg 
Sent: March 6, 2017 7:47 AM
To: Finale
Subject: [Finale] VVOT: translation from Hebrew

Hello list,

Is there anyone who can read and translate Hebrew?

For example:

---

Savree maranun
verabonun verobotay
Baruch atah Adonai eloheynu
melech ha-olam

---

or point me to an internetsite where I can find this text and a translation?

Very much obliged!
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Re: [Finale] Score Order Question

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Yes, as below. According to tessitura. Makes sense, doesn't it?

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> On Jul 10, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Johannes Gebauer <li...@musikmanufaktur.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, that's also what I thought. Which order, though? Wind first, 
> then viola, or as below according to tessitura?
> 
> Johannes
> 
>> Am 10.07.16 um 13:00 schrieb dr.a.s. weinstangel:
>> I would certainly prefer to see the solos in the middle, underneath the 
>> winds and above the strings.
>> 
>> Dr A.S. Weinstangel
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 10, 2016, at 6:43 AM, Johannes Gebauer <li...@musikmanufaktur.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> long lurking, but now I need the collected wisdom of the list:
>>>> 
>>>> 18th century Symphony (concertante), with Oboes, Horns and Strings, plus
>>>> the following solo instruments:
>>>> 
>>>> Flauto obligato
>>>> Clarinetto obligato
>>>> Viola obligato
>>>> Fagotto obligato
>>>> 
>>>> Where do these go? What is standard?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for any insights...
>>>> 
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Re: [Finale] Score Order Question

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I would certainly prefer to see the solos in the middle, underneath the winds 
and above the strings. 

Dr A.S. Weinstangel

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> On Jul 10, 2016, at 6:43 AM, Johannes Gebauer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> long lurking, but now I need the collected wisdom of the list:
> 
> 18th century Symphony (concertante), with Oboes, Horns and Strings, plus 
> the following solo instruments:
> 
> Flauto obligato
> Clarinetto obligato
> Viola obligato
> Fagotto obligato
> 
> Where do these go? What is standard?
> 
> Thanks for any insights...
> 
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Re: [Finale] TRIPLETS

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Thank you Ryan!

Your first suggestion works like a charm and with one-bar repeat staff style 
even the impossibility of copying is no longer a problem!

Hail the conquering hero!


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> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 16:14:39 -0800
> From: ry.squa...@gmail.com
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: Re: [Finale] TRIPLETS
> 
> You can. I've done it. Speedy entry. Create triplet like you normally
> would. Option 3, then enter 4 for an eighth note to tell Finale that you
> want eighth note triplets. Put the cursor back over the first note and
> change to a dotted quarter. The "3" will show over the dotted quarter. If
> there are brackets, you can highlight the measure and the from the menu use
> Utilities > Change... > Tuplets to remove all the brackets. You can also
> use that to hide the number three as most older engravings do.
> 
> Another option would be to allow Independent Time Signatures on the staff.
> Change those measures to a compound meter, then use a Staff style to hide
> the time signature change. This method may cause problems in adding and
> editing hairpins.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Dick Hauser <rdhau...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> >
> > > On Oct 31, 2015, at 9:39 AM, dr.a.s. weinstangel <dr...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Win10 Fin12
> > >
> > > Is there a way to mark triplets as dotted quarters with one slash (or
> > dotted half-notes with one slash) and number 3 or 6 above? Going through
> > the hoops here :-(
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Dr.A.S.Weinstangel
> >
> > Surprised no one has answered.  Short answer is no.  Long answer is that
> > it’s really “fiddly”.
> >
> > Perhaps you can follow this thread:
> >
> > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/private/finale/2015-November/122011.html
> >
> > Dick H
> > OlyWa
> >
> >
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Re: [Finale] TRIPLETS

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Win10 Fin12

Is there a way to mark triplets as dotted quarters with one slash (or dotted 
half-notes with one slash) and number 3 or 6 above? Going through the hoops 
here :-(

TIA

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Re: [Finale] TRIPLETS

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Win10 Fin12

Is
 there a way to notate triplets as dotted quarters with one slash (or 
dotted half-notes with one slash)? Also: it does not appear possible to beam 
groups of eighths  together if there is a grace note within the group. Is there 
a way of overcoming this limitation?

TIA. Going through
 the hoops here :-(


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Re: [Finale] TRIPLETS

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

It's a he, but yes, that's what he wants :-). 

An old-fashioned score, and I would just replicate the same slashed notation. 

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On Nov 2, 2015, at 9:32 AM, David H. Bailey  wrote:

> On 11/2/2015 9:04 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:
> You absolutely can beam over a grace note, but it takes some fiddling with
> the \ key in Speedy on both the grace note and the non-grace note. Or you
> can use my "Beam Selection" plugin that makes it easy.
> 
> I don't understand the question about the triplets-as-dotted quarters
> exactly. Do you mean 3 dotted quarters in the time of 2? This can be done
> easily using the triplet dialog.

What she means is that instead of writing triplet 8ths on the same 
pitch, using the old-fashioned shorthand of writing a dotted quarter and 
putting a slash through the stem to indicate the playing of an 
equivalent number of 8th notes.

I don't know how to do it to achieve accurate playback, but I know what 
she wants.


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Re: [Finale] TRIPLETS

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Thank you everyone for your help and suggestions.

Robert's suggestion re beaming over the grace notes indeed works! Me bad - was 
missing the additional click on the grace note itself.

However, slashed dotted quarters as triplets are just not worth the time and 
effort. So, endless repeated triplets they will become. The "old-fashioned" 
shorthand way of marking them was actually cleaner and easier to read in both 
score and parts. Oh, well...

Shouldn't there be an "I - know- what - I - am - doing, so - do - not - 
interfere" mode of input as well? 


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> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 20:30:41 +0200
> From: rjunch...@gmail.com
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: Re: [Finale] TRIPLETS
> 
> HP recognizes the triplets as Robert describes them, but yes, it's a
> problem to try to copy them with Finale alone.
> 
> Rafael J
> 
> On 2 November 2015 at 16:40, Robert Patterson 
> wrote:
> 
> > You can achieve that result with some effort. Basically you apply a triplet
> > of 3 eighths in the time of 2 to a dotted quarter. You add the slash as an
> > articulation. I believe (but am not 100% certain) that Human Playback will
> > even play this back correctly if you use one of the slash symbols it
> > recognizes.
> >
> > The main challenge is that if you use Finale to copy this, it may remove
> > the triplets (and convert the dotted quarters to quarters) in a misguided
> > attempt to be helpful. My Mass Copy plugin can help with this as well.
> >
> > R
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:31 AM, David H. Bailey 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/2/2015 9:04 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:
> > > > You absolutely can beam over a grace note, but it takes some fiddling
> > > with
> > > > the \ key in Speedy on both the grace note and the non-grace note. Or
> > you
> > > > can use my "Beam Selection" plugin that makes it easy.
> > > >
> > > > I don't understand the question about the triplets-as-dotted quarters
> > > > exactly. Do you mean 3 dotted quarters in the time of 2? This can be
> > done
> > > > easily using the triplet dialog.
> > > >
> > >
> > > What she means is that instead of writing triplet 8ths on the same
> > > pitch, using the old-fashioned shorthand of writing a dotted quarter and
> > > putting a slash through the stem to indicate the playing of an
> > > equivalent number of 8th notes.
> > >
> > > I don't know how to do it to achieve accurate playback, but I know what
> > > she wants.
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Finale] PDF EXPORT missing fonts

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

A big thank you to all who have responded to my post. I shall certainly follow 
up on their suggestions.

In the meantime it appears that only some Finale files have this problem, while 
the others export just fine! I have no idea how those are different than the 
others.

The quickest solution - as these are rather small scores - will be to just scan 
and save as PDF's. And than to continue investigating...

Thank you all!

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> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:59:03 +0200
> From: marcellon...@gmail.com
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: Re: [Finale] PDF EXPORT missing fonts
> 
> There is this little tool http://www.trishtech.com/font-loader/
> It does not need installation.
> Awfully it seems not to be working on Win10 at the moment :-(
> 
> Il 21/10/2015 12:21, Lawrence David Eden ha scritto:
> > I feel your pain!  The solution is to re-install Finale fonts from your 
> > DVD.  These fonts may be available online as well.
> >
> > I hope this helps.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 19, 2015, at 8:37 PM, dr.a.s. weinstangel<dr...@hotmail.com>  wrote:
> >>
> >> O the Knowledgeable ones!
> >>
> >> I have never before encountered this one:
> >>
> >> Fin2012 Win10
> >>
> >> When I export Finale score as PDF, I get the following message
> >>   The following fonts are used in this document but are not currently 
> >> available. They will be replaced by system fonts.
> >>
> >> Engraver Font Set
> >> Engraver Text T
> >> Engraver Font Extras
> >>
> >> And the PDF doc is of course total gibberish. The fonts are all sitting 
> >> nicely in the Fonts folder, as they are supposed too. Reboot did nothing.
> >>
> >> Please help!
> >>
> >>
> >> Dr.A.S.Weinstangel
> >>
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[Finale] PDF EXPORT missing fonts

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

O the Knowledgeable ones!

I have never before encountered this one: 

Fin2012 Win10

When I export Finale score as PDF, I get the following message
  The following fonts are used in this document but are not currently 
available. They will be replaced by system fonts.

Engraver Font Set
Engraver Text T
Engraver Font Extras

And the PDF doc is of course total gibberish. The fonts are all sitting nicely 
in the Fonts folder, as they are supposed too. Reboot did nothing.

Please help!


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Re: [Finale] RESIZE TIME SIGNATURES

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Thank you, thank you all for your kind help!

What an invaluable source of information and comfort this group has become! 

Sasha

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 On Aug 6, 2015, at 5:59 AM, Michael Withers mich...@michaelwithers.co.uk 
 wrote:
 
 I recently needed to create a score with BIG time signatures but ordinary
 sized time sigs on the linked parts.
 
 The key technique I used to use the font 'Time (score)' at 60pt, adjusting
 the 'Document optionsTime signaturesTop and bottom symbols appropriately
 and then using a staff style to hide the big signatures in the staves where
 you don't want the big sig to display.
 
 This approach works fine on WinFinale2014.
 
 It's much simpler than it sounds! If you want more information, let me know
 and I'll send you some more detailed notes with screengrabs.
 
 Michael 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
 dr.a.s. weinstangel
 Sent: 06 August 2015 03:48
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: [Finale] RESIZE TIME SIGNATURES
 
 I used to know how to create nice, big time signatures for my scores, but
 now can't remember how. Please help!
 
 BTW, after all these years I am still not sure: What - from your experience
 - is faster:
 a) Enter fl.1, fl.2 etc on separate staves and then implode them for the
 final version of the score, or
 b) Enter them as voice 1, voice 2, and then explode for part extraction, or
 c) Use some other, much better, tactical approach?
 
 TIA!
 
 Sasha Weinstangel
 
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Re: [Finale] RESIZE TIME SIGNATURES

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Also  Ctrl--A  Ctrl--M  Remove system locks

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 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 21:58:06 +0700
 From: basst...@gmail.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Finale] RESIZE TIME SIGNATURES
 
 I am having an interesting time with spacing: this is in connection with
 a project to make a video of trombone section parts from the Wagner Ring
 cycle. I have created a score and all the parts for this project, but my
 colleagues [actually my trombone students] complain about illegible parts.
 Finale [WinFin2014] has packed measures very close [TOO close] and the only
 way I have found to clean it up has been to set Finale to Speedy Entry
 and go through large sections of the parts and finish by putting the cursor
 away from the staff. It is workable but time-consuming and kludgy. Any
 ideas how I can clean things up a bit more elegantly?
 
 Phil Brink
 College of Music
 Mahidol University
 
 On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 6:34 PM, dr.a.s. weinstangel dr...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Thank you, thank you all for your kind help!
 
  What an invaluable source of information and comfort this group has become!
 
  Sasha
 
  sasha.weinstan...@utoronto.ca
  cel.647-292-4605
 
   On Aug 6, 2015, at 5:59 AM, Michael Withers 
  mich...@michaelwithers.co.uk wrote:
  
   I recently needed to create a score with BIG time signatures but ordinary
   sized time sigs on the linked parts.
  
   The key technique I used to use the font 'Time (score)' at 60pt,
  adjusting
   the 'Document optionsTime signaturesTop and bottom symbols
  appropriately
   and then using a staff style to hide the big signatures in the staves
  where
   you don't want the big sig to display.
  
   This approach works fine on WinFinale2014.
  
   It's much simpler than it sounds! If you want more information, let me
  know
   and I'll send you some more detailed notes with screengrabs.
  
   Michael
  
   -Original Message-
   From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On
  Behalf Of
   dr.a.s. weinstangel
   Sent: 06 August 2015 03:48
   To: finale@shsu.edu
   Subject: [Finale] RESIZE TIME SIGNATURES
  
   I used to know how to create nice, big time signatures for my scores, but
   now can't remember how. Please help!
  
   BTW, after all these years I am still not sure: What - from your
  experience
   - is faster:
   a) Enter fl.1, fl.2 etc on separate staves and then implode them for the
   final version of the score, or
   b) Enter them as voice 1, voice 2, and then explode for part extraction,
  or
   c) Use some other, much better, tactical approach?
  
   TIA!
  
   Sasha Weinstangel
  
   Dr.A.S.Weinstangel
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[Finale] RESIZE TIME SIGNATURES

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

I used to know how to create nice, big time signatures for my scores, but now 
can't remember how. Please help!

BTW, after all these years I am still not sure: What - from your experience - 
is faster:
a) Enter fl.1, fl.2 etc on separate staves and then implode them for the final 
version of the score, or
b) Enter them as voice 1, voice 2, and then explode for part extraction, or
c) Use some other, much better, tactical approach?

TIA!

Sasha Weinstangel

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Re: [Finale] pizzicato chords

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Thank you all for your help and advice!

Actually, Strum Plucked String Chords -  WAS unchecked, and now (checked) is 
playing back correctly, without arpeggios. Curious and couriouser!

Best,


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 From: djar...@icloud.com
 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 15:52:20 -0400
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Finale] pizzicato chords
 
 Human Playback style - choose Custom from the drop-down menu and un-check 
 Strum Plucked String Chords. Or just use an HP style that does not have 
 this box checked by default (like Standard).
 
 Cheers,
 
 - DJA
 -
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 On Jul 26, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Kenneth Moore k...@mooremusic.org.uk wrote:
 
  
  
  On  Sat, 25 Jul 2015 18:32:15 -0400,David H. Bailey 
  dhbaile...@comcast.net wrote:
  On 7/25/2015 3:38 PM, dr.a.s. weinstangel wrote:
  Is there a way of preventing Finale playback from arpeggio-ing all 
  pizzicato solo string chords?Drives me banananas!
  
  How else do they get played by human?
  One finger per string.  With a bit of preparation time I reckon I could 
  pluck all four strings of my upright bass pretty close to 
  simultaneously.  Strummed in quick succession is probably more usual on 
  the higher instruments on which four-part pizzicato chords sound OK, 
  which they don't, to my ear, on the bass, because in that register it's 
  not possible to finger a chord that is sufficiently spread.
I'm curious about this -- is it
  the speed of the arpeggiating in Finale's playback that you dislike? What
  would you rather hear from a solo string playback?
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Re: [Finale] pizzicato chords

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Well, I am a violinist, so I should know this one:
one flicks his pointer finger from across the strings and - voila'!
Like Debussy Quartet, 2nd movement, for example.

And Finale would start it an eight or so earlier and merrily roll it into the 
downbeat :-(

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 Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 18:32:15 -0400
 From: dhbaile...@comcast.net
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Finale] pizzicato chords
 
 
 
 On 7/25/2015 3:38 PM, dr.a.s. weinstangel wrote:
  Fin2012c Win8.1
 
  Is there a way of preventing Finale playback from arpeggio-ing all 
  pizzicato solo string chords? Drives me banananas!
 
 How else do they get played by human?  I'm curious about this -- is it
 the speed of the arpeggiating in Finale's playback that you dislike? What
 would you rather hear from a solo string playback?
 
 
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Re: [Finale] pizzicato chords

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Fin2012c Win8.1

Is there a way of preventing Finale playback from arpeggio-ing all pizzicato 
solo string chords? Drives me banananas!

TIA

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Re: [Finale] beaming over rests

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Fin2012c  Win 8.1

When the beams are set to go over the rests, the rests are globally pushed down 
into the first space. How to keep them in their normal position?

Thanks for your help!

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Re: [Finale] beaming over rests

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Thank you Klaus! That did it.
I was going in circles here :-(

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 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 13:58:41 +
 From: yorkmaster...@yahoo.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Finale] beaming over rests
 
 = Document Options (alt+cmd+A on Mac)= Beams= Uncheck: Allow Rests To Float
 Klaus 
  
  Subject: Re: [Finale] beaming over rests

 Fin2012c  Win 8.1
 
 When the beams are set to go over the rests, the rests are globally pushed 
 down into the first space. How to keep them in their normal position?
 
 Thanks for your help!
 
 Dr.A.S.Weinstangel
 

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Re: [Finale] implode music

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Thank you, Lee! Yes, unison C#'s in both layers etc.

How do you hide accidentals in only one layer? Neither DocumentsAccidentals 
nor DocumentsLayers allow for such a setting.

Thank you for your help.

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 From: lee.ac...@comcast.net
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 03:23:34 -0800
 Subject: Re: [Finale] implode music
 
 If you mean a double accidental on, say, a unison C# that appears in both
 layers, that's the way Fin2012 is designed (incorrectly) to work.  The
 workaround is to hide the accidental in one of the layers -- and making sure
 it still shows up in the part.  This feature -- ok, bug -- was not present
 in earlier versions, which correctly made the unison accidentals coincident.
 I think I remember reading that this has been corrected in Fin2014.
 
 If you mean a double accidental on non-unison notes, I don't have a clue.
 
 -Lee
 
 Lee Actor
 Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic
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 Subject: [Finale] implode music
 
 Win2012c. I have imploded wind parts in a score, with 2nd instruments as
 layer 2. 
 
 Everything is as it should be, except that there are two of every accidental
 on a staff. Ctrl+U does not do anything, neither does Check Accidentals.
 
 Any suggestions? TIA.
 
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[Finale] implode music

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Win2012c. I have imploded wind parts in a score, with 2nd instruments as layer 
2. 

Everything is as it should be, except that there are two of every accidental on 
a staff. Ctrl+U does not do anything, neither does Check Accidentals.

Any suggestions? TIA.

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Re: [Finale] Two parts on one stave

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Divisi part?


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 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 19:06:01 +0200
 From: den...@free.fr
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: [Finale] Two parts on one stave
 
 What do you call a part that has two instruments on the same stave, each 
 with their own stems?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [Finale] Two parts on one stave

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How about close score staff

 :  a musical score in which two or more parts are put on the same staff  — 
compare open score 

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 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 19:24:59 +0200
 From: den...@free.fr
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Finale] Two parts on one stave
 
 Le 11/10/2014 19:10, dr.a.s. weinstangel écrit :
  Divisi part?
 It's not really a divisi part like for strings. But simply, say, both 
 flutes on the same part.
 
 Dennis
 
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Re: [Finale] Two parts on one stave

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That seems to be the closest term to describe it. How about close-score-style 
staff?

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 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 19:35:47 +0200
 From: den...@free.fr
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Finale] Two parts on one stave
 
 Le 11/10/2014 19:29, dr.a.s. weinstangel écrit :
  How about close score staff
 
:  a musical score in which two or more parts are put on the same staff  
  — compare open score
 
 Thanks. But doesn't this refer to a general feature of the whole score? 
 In my case, it only applies to some of the wind instruments.
 
 Dennis
 
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Re: [Finale] arco vs.pizz dynamics (repeated question)

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As there was no response, I'll try one more time (He who asks shall find):


From: dr...@hotmail.com
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: arco vs.pizz dynamics
Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 16:23:04 -0400




In the Finale (2012c PC) playback of my new string quartet I am getting 
exploding pizzicatos and barely audible arcos.

Is there a way to globally adjust the volumes of these independently, to get an 
acceptable balance?

TIA for your help.

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Re: [Finale] arco vs.pizz dynamics (repeated question)

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Thank you David and Raymond;

Now I know the (ugly) truth! For a half-decent playback I just may have to copy 
onto additional staves the arco material that needs to be heard through the 
pizz. fireworks :-(

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 Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 17:20:07 -0400
 From: dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Finale] arco vs.pizz dynamics (repeated question)
 
 I believe the problem lies in the fact that the two different sample 
 sets were not recorded at the same volume level.  Apparently the 
 pizzicatos were recorded much louder than the arcos, so at the same 
 indicated dynamic level in your score they won't sound at the same volume.
 
 This is my biggest gripe about all the sample sets I've listened to (and 
 most that I've purchased, alas!) -- the designers of the sample sets 
 don't take the extra time to ensure that all the samples which pertain 
 to the same instrument sound at the same volume level when played by a 
 midi program at the same dynamic level.
 
 One solution is horribly painful in Finale -- it requires you to dig 
 into the midi editing capabilities (sort of like watching sausage being 
 made -- it's ugly, it's messy and it will turn you off ever wanting to 
 do it again) and adjust the velocity and/or the volume for each note 
 that you are unhappy with what you're hearing.
 
 One would think that it would be simpler than that, but it's not, from 
 my experience.
 
 And I think the reason you received no responses to your first query is 
 that nobody has an answer for you -- at least not one that's easy to 
 accomplish and won't take many hours/days to get things right with.
 
 I hope I'm wrong, but Raymond's reply indicates I may not be.  I gave up 
 worrying about such things long ago -- what's left of my sanity was too 
 valuable to me.  :-)
 
 Good luck!
 David H. Bailey
 
 
 On 5/7/2014 2:13 PM, dr.a.s. weinstangel wrote:
 
  As there was no response, I'll try one more time (He who asks shall find):
 
 
  From: dr...@hotmail.com
  To: finale@shsu.edu
  Subject: arco vs.pizz dynamics
  Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 16:23:04 -0400
 
 
 
 
  In the Finale (2012c PC) playback of my new string quartet I am getting 
  exploding pizzicatos and barely audible arcos.
 
  Is there a way to globally adjust the volumes of these independently, to 
  get an acceptable balance?
 
  TIA for your help.
 
  Dr.A.S.Weinstangel
 
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[Finale] arco vs.pizz dynamics

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In the Finale (2012c PC) playback of my new string quartet I am getting 
exploding pizzicatos and barely audible arcos.

Is there a way to globally adjust the volumes of these independently, to get an 
acceptable balance?

TIA for your help.

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Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Thanks; will do that.

I also remember it being mentioned on the List, and am sure that I have saved 
the answer, but can't find it now.

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 Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 19:13:52 -0400
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 From: bloke...@comcast.net
 Subject: Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES
 
 I had this problem a while ago, but I can't 
 remember the fix.  Call tech support - they 
 sorted it out with me, no problems.  We ran a 
 couple of tests and they had the answer.  I just 
 tried digging through my old emails, but I can't find the relevant ones, 
 sorry.
 
 Phil.
 
 At 06:41 PM 4/5/2014, you wrote:
 Thanks Peter;
 
 But, it isn't the case. String quartet; each 
 instrument on its own channel (1 -4); and - out 
 of nowhere - it starts playing from some other 
 spot on top of the current playback #$%^*!
 
 Dr.A.S.Weinstangel
 
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   From: pe...@euphonium.plus.com
   To: finale@shsu.edu
   Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 18:43:41 +0100
   Subject: Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES
  
   From: dr.a.s. weinstangel dr...@hotmail.com
   To: finale@shsu.edu
   Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:54 PM
   Subject: Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES
  
  
Fin2012c. WIN8.1 64-bit
   
Never had these problems before:
   
In the middle of playback some staves get stuck and keep holding the
same note(s) until  Finale is closed. Or, while playing, inexplicably
starts to play from another spot, on top of the current playback.
  
   This happens to me when two instruments are sharing the same MIDI channel
   and they hit the same note at the same time.  The answer (for me) was to
   give them a separate channel each.
  
And BTW: is it possible to prevent arpeggio-ing of every pizzicato chord
in the strings? Really annoying!
  
   This sounds like a Human Playback issue.  I never use it so I can't help,
   sorry.
  
  
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Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES

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Fin2012c. WIN8.1 64-bit

Never had these problems before:

In the middle of playback some staves get stuck and keep holding the same 
note(s) until  Finale is closed. Or, while playing, inexplicably starts to play 
from another spot, on top of the current playback.

And BTW: is it possible to prevent arpeggio-ing of every pizzicato chord in the 
strings? Really annoying!

Thanks for your help!

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Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES

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Thanks Peter;

But, it isn't the case. String quartet; each instrument on its own channel (1 
-4); and - out of nowhere - it starts playing from some other spot on top of 
the current playback #$%^*!

Dr.A.S.Weinstangel

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 From: pe...@euphonium.plus.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 18:43:41 +0100
 Subject: Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES
 
 From: dr.a.s. weinstangel dr...@hotmail.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [Finale] PLAYBACK ISSUES
 
 
  Fin2012c. WIN8.1 64-bit
 
  Never had these problems before:
 
  In the middle of playback some staves get stuck and keep holding the 
  same note(s) until  Finale is closed. Or, while playing, inexplicably 
  starts to play from another spot, on top of the current playback.
 
 This happens to me when two instruments are sharing the same MIDI channel 
 and they hit the same note at the same time.  The answer (for me) was to 
 give them a separate channel each.
 
  And BTW: is it possible to prevent arpeggio-ing of every pizzicato chord 
  in the strings? Really annoying!
 
 This sounds like a Human Playback issue.  I never use it so I can't help, 
 sorry. 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Anybody having any success with scanning?

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I have an HP Scanjet G4010 and it scans into Finale pretty well.

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 From: wit...@nctv.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:02:57 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Finale] Anybody having any success with scanning?
 
 Hey Terry,
 I have an HP Photosmart 6520. Will that work?
 John Witmer
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Terry Vosbein vosbe...@wlu.edu
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [Finale] Anybody having any success with scanning?
 
 
  It works fine for mea few hints:
  
  Do not scan the music in a scanner and then try to convert it.
  
  Open Finale and scan from within Finale
  
  Also, only a very few scanners actually work. A very very few.
  
  I use an Epson V33 and have no trouble scanning well engraved music.
  
  
  Hope this helps,
  
  
  Terry Vosbein
  
  
  
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Re: [Finale] tambourine sound

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One more try with this question, as there was no response.

Any suggestions, my friends?

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 From: dr...@hotmail.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:37:29 -0500
 Subject: [Finale] tambourine sound
 
 Fin2012, Win 8.1.
 
 I am trying to assign one staff to tambourine sound. It is delightful to find 
 that, say, in the Brush drum kit that would be MIDI note number 83, and in 
 the Electronic drum kit it would be number 54, but I have no idea how to 
 assign that globally to the whole staff. 
 
 Sliding the note with the mouse gives me all possible sounds, except what I 
 need here.
 
 Please help!
 
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[Finale] tambourine sound

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Fin2012, Win 8.1.

I am trying to assign one staff to tambourine sound. It is delightful to find 
that, say, in the Brush drum kit that would be MIDI note number 83, and in the 
Electronic drum kit it would be number 54, but I have no idea how to assign 
that globally to the whole staff. 

Sliding the note with the mouse gives me all possible sounds, except what I 
need here.

Please help!

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Re: [Finale] copying articulations

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SELECTION TOOL  highlight the bars with desired articulations  click on the 
section you are copying to  NONE  ARTICULATIONS. Done.

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 Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:59:56 -0400
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 From: lde...@comcast.net
 Subject: Re: [Finale] copying articulations
 
 Chuck,
 
 Back in earlier versions of Finale, we used the Mass Mover to copy 
 articulations.  Is this Smart Find and Copy the replacement?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Smart find and copy. Command F selects the source measures and 
 Shift/Command F selects the targets and copies markings. Try it.
 
 Chuck
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 19, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote:
 
   FinMac 2K11
 
   How do I copy articulations from one voice to another?  What tool 
 should I use?
 
   Thanks!
 
   Larry
 
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Re: [Finale] EXPORT AS MP3

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Fin2012 Win7

Under ExportAudio File there is only WAV. Is it not possible to export as MP3?

TIA

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Re: [Finale] EXPORT AS MP3

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Thank you, gentlemen! I DID have a number of files saved as MP3's, so was 
starting to question my sanity when I could not figure it out on my PC.

Donwloading Format Factory as we speak ~@:-)

Best,

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 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:06:53 +
 From: yateslawre...@gmail.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Finale] EXPORT AS MP3
 
 No it's not possible.  You need to use a file converter to convert the wav
 to mp3.  I use Format factory which is a useful free programme which can
 be used to convert to or from most audio and video formats.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Lawrence
 
 
 On 15 March 2013 18:01, dr.a.s. weinstangel dr...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 
  Fin2012 Win7
 
  Under ExportAudio File there is only WAV. Is it not possible to export as
  MP3?
 
  TIA
 
  Dr. A.S.Weinstangel
 
 
 
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[Finale] LARGE TIME SIGNATURES

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I've used to know how to create large time signatures (one for each section, 
rather than on each staff) in the score, but am now unable to do it.

TIA for your help.

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[Finale] Will Mac read my PC Finale files?

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

I am considering moving to Mac. Am I going to be able to open my old PC Finale 
files? 

Is there anything I could do in advance to make the file switch easier? Thanks 
for your input.


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Re: [Finale] Will Mac read my PC Finale files?

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Thank you for your response! Very much appreciated!

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 From: christopher.sm...@videotron.ca
 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 21:40:09 -0400
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Finale] Will Mac read my PC Finale files?
 
 
 On Wed Oct 5, at WednesdayOct 5 9:05 PM, dr.a.s. weinstangel wrote:
 
  
  I am considering moving to Mac. Am I going to be able to open my old PC 
  Finale files? 
  
 
 Yes.
 
 
  Is there anything I could do in advance to make the file switch easier? 
  Thanks for your input.
  
  
 
 Make sure all your files have an .mus extension (I use Renamer4Mac, a 
 shareware program, that does this in bulk), and make sure you have the same 
 fonts. If you only use the stock Finale fonts, there will never be a problem. 
 Otherwise, you might have to run the font check routine. But only do this if 
 things don't show up properly. No use giving yourself useless work.
 
 Christopher
 
 
 
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RE: [Finale] HOW TO SAVE AS MP3

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FinPC 2010. I am sure I've used to know how to do this.

Manual says: From the File menu, choose Save Special, then 
Export to Audio File.  There is no Save Special option in the File menu!
SAVE AS gives options of saving as MUS, MID and FTM.
Under EXPORT TO AUDIO the only option is to save as WAV.

Please help!

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RE: [Finale] HOW TO SAVE AS MP3

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Thank you Darcy and Dennis! 

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 Subject: Re: [Finale] HOW TO SAVE AS MP3
 From: djar...@earthlink.net
 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:33:31 -0500
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 
 When using Garritan instruments or other AU/VST instruments, you must save as 
 WAV or AIFF and convert to MP3 afterwards.
 
 Cheers,
 
 - DJA
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  FinPC 2010. I am sure I've used to know how to do this.
  
  Manual says: From the File menu, choose Save Special, then 
  Export to Audio File.  There is no Save Special option in the File menu!
  SAVE AS gives options of saving as MUS, MID and FTM.
  Under EXPORT TO AUDIO the only option is to save as WAV.
  
  Please help!
  
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RE: [Finale] Ossia problems in 2011

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I have placed the source bars at the end of the piece and pushed them beyond 
the last page. 

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 From: delius...@aol.com
 Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 02:28:52 -0500
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: [Finale] Ossia problems in 2011
 
 I have never done an ossia in Finale before, let alone 2011.  I  followed 
 the instructions, adding a scratch staff, marking my source measures,  etc. 
  However, in the process to hide the scratch system, it also hid the  ossia 
 itself!  Does anyone know how to work around this issue? 
  
 Thanks,
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RE: [Finale] Romanian diacriticals in Finale

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Not sure if this would help, but I use this for quick copy/paste action.

MULTINATIONAL CHARACTERS

These international characters are provided for subscribers using English
alphanumeric keyboards. Characters may be copied and pasted into e-mail and
other documents as needed.






Á á Â â Ä ä À à Å å Ã ã Ā ā Ă ă Æ æ Ą ą 

Ć ć Ĉ ĉ Ċ ċ Č č Ç ç Ƈ ƈ Ð ð Ď ď Đ đ 

Ē ē Ė ė É é Ê ê Ë ë È è Ę ę Ě ě 

Ĝ ĝ Ğ ğ Ġ ġ Ģ ģ Ɠ Ĥ ĥ Í í Î î Ĭ ĭ Į į İ ı Ĩ ĩ Ī ī IJ ij Ĵ ĵ 

Ķ ķ Ï ï Ì ì Ĺ ĺ Ļ ļ Ł ł Ñ ñ Ń ń Ņ ņ Ň ň 

Ó ó Ô ô Ö ö Ò ò Ō ō Ŏ ŏ Ő ő Ø ø Õ õ Œ œ 

Þ þ Ř ř Ś ś Ŝ ŝ Ş ş Š š ß Ţ ţ Ť ť Ŧ ŧ 

Ũ ũ Ū ū Ŭ ŭ Ů ů Ű ű Ú ú Û û Ü ü Ù ù Ų ų 

Ŵ ŵ Ŷ ŷ Ÿ Ÿ ÿ Ý ý ÿ Ž ž Ź ź Ż ż Ƶ ƶ 

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 From: christopher.sm...@videotron.ca
 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:18:22 -0400
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: [Finale] Romanian diacriticals in Finale
 
 I am putting titles into a piece in Romanian (Bartok's Romanian Folk  
 Dances), and I am having trouble finding some of the proper  
 characters, which mostly seem to be Unicode.
 
 I have found the capital A with a caret (circumflex) over it no problem
 
 II. BRÂUL
 
 
 but I need a capital A with the caret inverted (Character Palette  
 calls it a caron), and a T with a cedilla (comma below in  
 Character Palette) in another title. This is the title missing the  
 diacriticals:
 
 VI. MARUNTEL
 
 Here are the characters, which I can easily insert into my Mail  
 program which supports Unicode!
 
 ȚǍ
 
 I would be happy to substitute another serif bold (or sans!) font for  
 my Times New Roman if it had the diacriticals. Character Palette on  
 my Mac wasn't much help, as all the characters I need are only  
 available in Unicode, which is unsupported in Finale.
 
 Thanks for your support.
 
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[Finale] Further to Ossia bars

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The only solution I was able to find so far was to assign as  source bars added 
at the end of the piece, which I intend to push of the last page when printing.

Would anyone have a better idea?  

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 Subject: RE: [Finale] Ossia bars
 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:10:31 -0400
 
 
 Hello all;
 
 PC Fin2010. I am working on a piece that uses scordatura in the solo part. An 
 occasional ossia bar will show the performer real pitch.
 
 Ossia Tool is not letting me transpose it. Staff Tool can not be used to 
 define it as a transposing part. Selection Tool can not be used to highlight 
 (and then transpose) it. And I could not find any help in the Manual.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 
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RE: [Finale] Ossia bars

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Hello all;

PC Fin2010. I am working on a piece that uses scordatura in the solo part. An 
occasional ossia bar will show the performer real pitch.

Ossia Tool is not letting me transpose it. Staff Tool can not be used to define 
it as a transposing part. Selection Tool can not be used to highlight (and then 
transpose) it. And I could not find any help in the Manual.

Any suggestions?


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RE: [Finale] slashed notation

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I rarely have to deal with chord-and-slash notation, and am confused in this 
case:

PC, Fin2010
3/4 time: quarter rest, quarter note A with the chord symbol, slash on the 3rd 
beat, and similarly through the whole piece.

I can get all slashed beats with no rests and no noteheads, OR
rhythmic notation with an X instead of the notehead and VERTICAL stem, OR
(the best version, but hard to read) normal rest, normal note with chord symbol 
and VERTICAL stem without the notehead.

Isn't there an easy way to get an angled slash on the third beat?

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RE: [Finale] slashed notation

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I am trying to understand what you are trying to do, and if you want  
 the same chord to be played on beats 2 and 3 (oom-pah-pah) then the  
 standard way is to indicate BOTH beats 2 and 3 with Rhythmic  
 Notation. What you described will induce a guitarist (for example) to  
 play an A note on beat 2 and a chord on beat 3. If that is what you  
 want, you should only put the chord symbol over the 3rd beat slash,  
 not over the 2nd beat note.
 

I agree. This is a klezmer arrangement, and I suspect that this way guitar, 
bass, trombone and whatever else read from the same part and can see the bass 
note.

Selecting partial measures seems to be the way. Thanks.

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 From: christopher.sm...@videotron.ca
 Subject: Re: [Finale] slashed notation
 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:16:40 -0500
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 
 
 On Wed Feb 10, at WednesdayFeb 10 7:47 AM, dr.a.s. weinstangel wrote:
 
 
  I rarely have to deal with chord-and-slash notation, and am  
  confused in this case:
 
  PC, Fin2010
  3/4 time: quarter rest, quarter note A with the chord symbol, slash  
  on the 3rd beat, and similarly through the whole piece.
 
  I can get all slashed beats with no rests and no noteheads, OR
  rhythmic notation with an X instead of the notehead and VERTICAL  
  stem, OR
  (the best version, but hard to read) normal rest, normal note with  
  chord symbol and VERTICAL stem without the notehead.
 
  Isn't there an easy way to get an angled slash on the third beat?
 
  Dr.A.S.Weinstangel
 
 I didn't quite get everything you said above, but the standard way of  
 getting stemmed slashes is to select the passage of normal notes  
 using the Staff Tool and hit R (the metatool for Rhythmic Notation.)  
 You can select partial measures, but it isn't necessary if the only  
 thing you want is stemmed slashes and rests.
 
 You can right-click the blue bar over the staff that appears after  
 putting in a Staff Style and edit the staff style so the stems go up  
 instead of down, if you want. Stems down is standard, because they  
 won't interfere with anything above the staff like chord symbols.
 
 Stemless slashes would be metatool S for Slash Notation.
 
 I am trying to understand what you are trying to do, and if you want  
 the same chord to be played on beats 2 and 3 (oom-pah-pah) then the  
 standard way is to indicate BOTH beats 2 and 3 with Rhythmic  
 Notation. What you described will induce a guitarist (for example) to  
 play an A note on beat 2 and a chord on beat 3. If that is what you  
 want, you should only put the chord symbol over the 3rd beat slash,  
 not over the 2nd beat note.
 
 Christopher
 
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RE: [Finale] Quarter-tone music

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Listen to the compositions (especially the string quartets) of Alois Haba. 
There is one in 1/3 tones, which I found to be extremely interesting (and 
surprisingly mellow sounding).

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 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:59:47 -0400
 Subject: [Finale] Quarter-tone music
 
 
 timothy price
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 Hi Dennis,
   
   Was wondering if you had a site where I could stream or download  
 (listen to) anything using quarter-tones?  Have never heard any music,  
 to my knowledge, composed as such.
 What is the basic tonality? I mean, does it mater, whether it is just,  
 tempered, etc. tuning?
 Any info would be appreciated.
   Any lack of sufficient anxiety now that the dam is gone? ;-)  We all  
 need motivation, you know.
 
 Best,
 
 tim
 
 PS.  any other type of music which you have taken a liking to?
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[Finale] Phantom slurs

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Dear collective wisdom;

Fin05, XP.  I am extracting parts from an arrangement.  There are phantom slurs 
all over them in the most unlikely places, without handles no matter to which 
voice (layer) I switch. They are NOT visible in the Scroll View.

In desperation I went back to the score and removed every slur that I could 
find, but when the parts are extracted exactly the same phantom slurs are back 
in place. Selecting ALL and removing items (slurs attached to notes, note 
articulations, expressions etc.) does nothing to alleviate the problem. Please 
help! 

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[Finale] Pizzicato volume problem

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I currently have only Fin2005 on my system (WinXP).

Playing back one of my scores (which is to be presented to an artist interested 
in a European premiere performance), I am running into the situation were all 
pizzicato passages are 10 times as loud as the surrounding materials. Sound 
like a banjo ensemble high on Viagra!

Going through the whole score with the MIDI Tool and adjusting along the way 
would be impossible at this stage. Is there a way of globally adjusting the 
pizzicato playback volume, please?

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RE: [Finale] Opening older files

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Sorry, I did forget to give this basic information. I am on a PC, all documents 
have .mus extension (like this: SashaWorks/BALL4A.MUS), and did open without 
any problem previously. I currently have Fin08 and Fin02 installed on my 
system. The files were originally created with - I assume - Fin94, but were 
reopened a few years back, edited a bit and saved with some later version(s).

Any help would be most appreciated, as I do not have the time and/or strength 
to input the whole score all ocer again.

I have attempted to open a folder of older files without any success. Even 
after re-installing Finale 2002 and trying to open the files with it, I am 
getting the Invalid file type message. Any suggestions?

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 Subject: Re: [Finale] Opening older files
 Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:39:30 -0800
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 CC: 
 
 Yes, it's a Mac ... running 10.4.1, 1.5 gigs of RAM, FinMac007. The  
 files do end with a .MUS
 
 Dean
 
 On Jan 18, 2008, at 10:06 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
 
  Mac? PC? More info needed.
  You might want to try making sure, even on the Mac, that your files  
  end with
  a .MUS
 
  On 1/18/08, dr.a.s. weinstangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  I have attempted to open a folder of older files without any  
  success. Even
  after re-installing Finale 2002 and trying to open the files with  
  it, I am
  getting the Invalid file type message. Any suggestions?
 
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[Finale] Opening older files

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I have attempted to open a folder of older files without any success. Even 
after re-installing Finale 2002 and trying to open the files with it, I am 
getting the Invalid file type message. Any suggestions?

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RE: [Finale] Global settings, was Engraver slurs

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Thank you, Johannes; 

This kind of hint is absolutely invaluable to me. 

Which brings me to a request. When I compare the look of my scores with those 
of some of my more capable colleagues, I am often embarrassed with their 
less-than-professional look. Has anyone ever compiled a list of preferred 
global settings for WinFin, and - if yes - would you be kind enough to share it 
with us mere mortals, please? I could not think of a better Chanukah (Xmas, 
fill in your favorite holiday) present.


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 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 18:17:36 -0500
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 Subject: Re: [Finale] Engraver slurs - a work-around for slur tips not 
 avoiding   staff lines
 
 Johannes Gebauer wrote:
  I have just found a work around for one of my biggest Finale problems. I 
  have been fighting Engraver slur tips crashing into staff lines, even 
  though they were set not to.
  
  I now realized that if I change the vertical slur placement setting from 
  12 and -12 for slurs over and under the notes to 10 and -10 it seems tha 
  a lot of these problem slurs are fixed. I have only checked this in two 
  files so far, and only fragmentary but I have some hopes...
  
  Johannes
 
 
 Thank you for sharing that setting with us -- my fingers are crossed 
 that you have solved the problem!
 
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[Finale] RE: Saving Finale file in XML format

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In order to import Finale05 file into Sibelius5, I need to save it in XML 
format. The only options I could find in Finale are for saving as MUS, ETF, 
MID, FTM, WAV and MP3 files.  Please help! 

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 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 23:53:31 -0500
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 Subject: Re: [Finale] very OT notation (burn before reading!)
 
 On 11/2/07, Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   there is a lively discussion among horn players
about whether the 4th horn solo in the 3rd mvt of Beethoven 9 was
written for valve horn.
 
 And yet, John Ericson, very eloquently, dispassionately,
 perspicaciously, and convincingly thinks it was not. Majority does not
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RE: [Finale] RE: Saving Finale file in XML format

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Thank you for your response. Actually, there was nothing under the File menu, 
but prodded by your answer  I went for a search and... lo and behold, among the 
Plug-Ins there was MusicXML Export Lite.

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 Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:01:56 -0500
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 Subject: Re: [Finale] RE: Saving Finale file in XML format
 
 dr.a.s. weinstangel wrote:
  In order to import Finale05 file into Sibelius5, I need to save it in XML 
  format. The only options I could find in Finale are for saving as MUS, ETF, 
  MID, FTM, WAV and MP3 files.  Please help! 
  
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[Finale] invisible graphic notation

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Dear friends;

Fin2005, WinXP. I need to enter some graphic notation into a score. I have 
tried importing it as a TIFF file, but have received Finale does not support 
placing of LZW compressed TIFF files message, meaning of which escapes me. So, 
I have drawn an approximation of it with the expression tool, and could live 
with the result, except that making the rest underneath invisible also makes 
the graphic invisible. Any suggestions? TIA.

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[Finale] Slashed grace notes

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Dear collective wisdom:

Two questions:
1. To slash a flagged grace note is easy. But, how to get slashed beamed 
grace notes, without having to manually place a slash on each group (and 
then have it move somewhere else every once in a while)?
2. I would like to place beamed grace notes that precede downbeats into the 
previous bar. Could this be done globally for given sections of the piece?


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RE: [Finale] Slashed grace notes

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Just a quick thank you to everyone who responded to my questions.

Your answers have confirmed what I have thought was the situation. I have 
now manually entered the grace notes into the preceding bars, erased them 
from were they used to be, and added slashes with expression tool, while 
praying that they do not move from their assigned spots.


Until the next quagmire,

Best,

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Subject: [Finale] Slashed grace notes
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 09:37:54 -0400

Dear collective wisdom:

Two questions:
1. To slash a flagged grace note is easy. But, how to get slashed beamed 
grace notes, without having to manually place a slash on each group (and 
then have it move somewhere else every once in a while)?
2. I would like to place beamed grace notes that precede downbeats into the 
previous bar. Could this be done globally for given sections of the piece?


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Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.

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I know there is Enescu's Preludio à l’unison for Orchestra, but confess to 
never hearing it.


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- Original Message -
From: Matthew Hindson fastmail acct [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:49 PM
Subject: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.


 Dear listers,

 A quick q to the wisdom of this list.  I am looking for any works or
 movts. of works for more than one instrument that are constructed
 entirely in unisons or octaves.  Obviously there is the Qt. for the End
 of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one myself (fun to write if
 you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest others?

 TIA

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Re: [Finale] OT ... commissions

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[Finale] MIDI Percussion Map setup

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Re: [Finale] Eyeglasses?

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I might add my own experience whenreplacing a violinist colleague at the last moment for a choral concert with a well-known choral (and not-so-great orchestral) conductor. 
At one really tricky point I found pencilled in my part a pair of eyeglasses in a circle with a diagonal line over it (i.e. "don't look!"). I did make the mistake of looking up and found the conductor furiously attempting to confuse everybody, and my colleagues all carefully watching their belly buttons withwise smirks on their faces. The warning was, actually, invaluable.
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From:Andrew Stiller [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:finale@shsu.eduTo:finale@shsu.eduSubject:Re: [Finale] Eyeglasses?Date:Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:58:06 -0400have never seen (in 40 years) that symbol in any music I have conductedWellyou wouldn't, would you? since it A) has no place in the *score* of anything and B) is normally handwritten in the part, not printed by a publisher.I've never seen the eyeglasses in any published score I've ever looked at (thousands of them!) either, but have had occasion myself to pencil it into a part every third or fourth concert I play--and see numerous examples of it already entered into my partby 
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Re: [Finale] Audio file quirks?

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The original Finale file played perfectly. I have savedit as an audio file. I have then played the file back using Winamp and MS Media Player. In eitherversionone staff did not play back. 
I went back and added two more staves and copied the original inaudible staff onto them, and saved as audio file again. The newly saved file would still not play back that same line. 
Finally, being in a hurry, I did burn a CD with that file and have discovered that it did play back as well as the original Finale file.
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From:Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:finale@shsu.eduTo:finale@shsu.eduSubject:Re: [Finale] Audio file quirks?Date:Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:40:48 -0400On 8-Jun-06, at 10:23 AM, dr.a.s. weinstangel wrote:I just had a rather interesting experience. FIN2005, PC.A file I saved through Save Special---Save as Audio File, whenchecked through Winamp AND MS Media player had one stave (aurally)missing, even if I had recopied that same stave several times, andhad resaved the file.The CD burned from the same audio files plays back just fine.Curiouos 
and curiouser!Any ideas?Just to make sure I understand:You made an audio file. The file plays back everything when burned toCD, but is missing one staff when played back using Winamp or MSMediaPlayer?That can't be right. The file is a stereo audio file - the playercan't strip out individual tracks that are embedded.My only suggestion is that perhaps the instrument in question ispanned sharply to the left or to the right, and the right or leftchannel is not playing back, perhaps because of a bad cable orconnection. That would make it a hardware issue, not a software 
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[Finale] Audio file quirks?

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I just had a rather interesting experience. FIN2005, PC. 

A file I saved through Save Special---Save as Audio File, when checked through Winamp AND MS Media player had one stave (aurally) missing, even if I had recopied that same stave several times, and had resaved thefile.

The CD burned from the same audio files plays back just fine. Curiouos and curiouser!

Any ideas?

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Re: [Finale] VERY OT: Chaconnes and Passacaglias

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Didos' Lament from Purcell's "Dido and Aeneas".




From:Andrew Stiller [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:finale@shsu.eduTo:finale@shsu.eduSubject:Re: [Finale] VERY OT: Chaconnes and PassacagliasDate:Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:49:07 -0500On Feb 26, 2006, at 3:06 PM, Ryan Beard wrote:Cool. Thanks all. Keep them coming.Frescobaldi: Cento partite sopra passacagliAndrew StillerKallisti Music Presshttp://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/___Finale mailing listFinale@shsu.eduhttp://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

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[Finale] split beams

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From split stems to split beams:
Placing a grace note between two notes in a group separates the beam into two. There must be a wayof keeping the group connected within the beam, but I am just not able to figure it out without your help.
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Re: [Finale] split beams

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That I always knew.What I did not know, and have just discovered, was that clicking "/" on the following group note does not do anything unless "/" is clicked on the preceding grace note as well! Curious and curiouser!
Thank you just the same!
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From:Dennis Bathory-Kitsz [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:finale@shsu.eduTo:finale@shsu.eduSubject:Re: [Finale] split beamsDate:Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:19:05 -0400At 02:08 PM 9/22/05 -0400, dr.a.s. weinstangel wrote:  From split stems to split beams:of keeping the group connected within the beam, but I am just not able to figure it out without your help.The "/" key in speedy. Include the grace note in the slashing. Finale givesno visible clues about this, unfortunately. You never know which slashingyou're on.Dennis___Finale mailing listFinale@shsu.eduhttp://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

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Re: [Finale] Urgent advice needed

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A big thank you to all who responded to my questions. I agree that Finale should provide for slashed beamed grace notes. 
While I have used bothgraphic _expression_ and Smart Shape Tool versions, as suggested, for most occasions _expression_ Toolright or left slash (TNR 36 - 48 points) seemed to work just fine.
Sasha Weinstangel




From:Andrew Stiller [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:finale@shsu.eduTo:finale@shsu.eduSubject:Re: [Finale] Urgent advice neededDate:Sat, 3 Sep 2005 11:10:37 -0400On Sep 2, 2005, at 2:09 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:No. I believe the only way to slash beamed grace notes is to create a slash as a graphic _expression_ and then apply that _expression_ to the various instances of beamed grace notes.It is far easier to use the Smart Shape line tool for this, especially inasmuch as the position and angle of the slash will vary from one group to another.This really is something that Finale ought to provide for.Andrew StillerKallisti Music 
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[Finale] Urgent advice needed

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Dear colleagues;
FinWin2005. I am struggling to complete a score, and need some help from you:
There is a sudden change in the staff spacing, size of noteheads and a general look of the scorefrom the page 16 and on, and nothing I have tried changing has made much of the difference. I am sure itmust be possible to copy the format of one of the previous pages onto the rest of the score for a uniform look, but I can't figure out how to do it. 
Also, I have asked some time ago and have never received a single answer: is it possible to globally slash grouped grace notes, similarly to what is available at OptionsDocument OptionsGrace NotesAlways Slash Flagged Grace Notes?
I would be deeply grateful for any help offered.
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[Finale] Grace notes spacing problem

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FinWin2005. I am completing a score that includes a busy solo harp part. The grace note groupings that precede the downbeats are with "beat spacing" and "note spacing" pushed an inch ahead of the downbeat, ahead of the system and over the clefs; the "time signature spacing" is almost acceptable, with the bar spaced almost reasonably, except that the grace notes are over the clef. This could be adjusted manually, if need be, but in the measure tool the bottom square is not shown, and - therefore - the beat "handles" are not possible to see and adjust. Any suggestions from our esteemed group of experts?
Also, in OptionsProgram OptionsGrace Notes there is a possibility to check for "Always Slash Flagged Grace Notes". Is there a possibility to "always slash grouped grace notes" as well?
TIA for your help.
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[Finale] How to change time signature size/ font

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FinWin2005.  I would like to increase the size/ change the font of time 
signatures. In Document OptionsTime Signatures there is no such a 
possibility. A change in Set Default Fonts dialogue changes everything 
globally. Any help would be appreciated.


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[Finale] Feathered beams etc.

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If one creates feathered beams according to the Manual (Finale 2005), i.e. inputs notes as the smallest note value and with special tools angles the beams as needed, there are leftover rests in the bar. Making them invisible still leaves the playback, the lineup etc. all messed up. Is there a better way?

Also,is it possible to reduce the size of icons in the pallettes, in order to take less space along the margins of the screen?

Much obliged for any suggestions.

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Re: [Finale] Subdominant-was half rests in 6/4

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Regarding 
"...Subdominant (used to mean the 4th of the scale, or the chord built on it. Now means ANY chord that can lead to a dominant (though it doesn't invariably have to)...etc." From: Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was under the impression that Subdominant was a chord at the same distance from below the Tonic as the Dominant was above the Tonic, i.e.
SD(perfect fifth)--- T -(perfect fifth)-D
Was I tought erroneously?
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From: Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: finale@shsu.eduTo: finale@shsu.edu, [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4? - back to the original question,please!Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:14:51 -0400On Jun 29, 2005, at 11:34 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:On 29 Jun 2005, at 9:28 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:The work in question is most definitely in two groups of 3 beatseach (although it often hemiolas into 3/2 temporarily).That's not the right meaning of hemiola. A hemiola is:W W WH H H | H H Hacross two measures in a 3/2 
context, (or H H H in two 3/4 measures).In 3/2, the hemiola is overlaying a 3/1 measure over top of two 3/2measures.I think "hemiola" is one of those terms which has gone beyond its traditional meaning, to mean any 3 against 2 OR 2 against 3 counter accent in our modern times.Other terms that I think have moved on in a similar fashion:Subdominant (used to mean the 4th of the scale, or the chord built on it. Now means ANY chord that can lead to a dominant (though it doesn't invariably have to). Some of my colleagues have replaced this term with "Predominant" to be more clear. But what if it doesn't go to the dominant, but directly to the tonic? Is it still a "predominant"? If not, then why have a different name for the same chord 
in the same key?Modal - had a big discussion about this one last year on the list. Doesn't mean now what it used to mean a couple of centuries ago. Of course leads toTonal - which might be one of those words that can't be used any more in ANY context except historical, because of all the different ways it is construedPicardy third (now often applied to ANY major-quality resolution chord where a minor one is expected in the key, wrongly or not)Toncisation (used to mean only with a secondary dominant, now can mean articulating a temporary tonic by any applicable means) (on that subject, what do you call a plagal resolution to a temporary tonic? A "plagalisation"? I shudder at it, but it IS logical. Musicians who play gospel (where it is most common) call 
it "backcycling", but that is a bit obtuse IMHO. Drawing on "applied dominant" perhaps "applied predominant"? Not clear. Applied how?)All of these expanded uses came about because we needed to talk about them, but didn't have a brand-new term, so we used an old term that did something similar, but restricted, in an older context. I even hear some jazz musicians (mostly bass players) talk about "musica ficta" in a jazz context, meaning that they use sharper notes walking up to a target and flatter notes moving down to a target; a great departure from the raised 4th and lowered 7th the term used to refer to.This points up a need for a jazz theorist's convention, where we could all talk to one another and come up with proper terms for all this stuff, but not so far removed 
from the common classical terminology that nobody outside of jazz knows what we are talking about. I am insistent with my students that they make the connections between what they learned in their classical theory courses and how it applies to their jazz performance, composition, and arranging. It IS mostly the same as classical, after all, just expanded a bit more in places, and with a few different idiosyncracies. It seems that every jazz school has its OWN way of describing things, and often there are huge holes in the analysis and terminology.Comments? (no swearing please.) Helpful hints? Resources?Christopher___Finale mailing listFinale@shsu.eduhttp://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

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