Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question
I use chord symbols on almost every project I do, and Finale drives me nuts every time. For me, the spacing is the least of my problems (although I agree spacing is not great). To me, it is a lot more basic. Every chord I want to enter, Finale doesn't seem to recognize, and it doesn't seem to follow any common nomenclature system consistently. I suppose after all these years, I should have dug into it and crated my own library, but I haven't. How is it that if you use a program like Band-in-a-box, it knows what I mean in about 95% of the cases, but Finale doesn't seem to recognize the most basic suffixes? Is this solvable by developing a better library or are the problems endemic in the software instead? If it is a library issue, maybe a group can collaborate to develop a library that actually works. On 5/15/2014 5:26 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Once you get a nice library set up (with that tiny little un-resizeable edit window where the nudge buttons don't work!) it is pretty painless. I have many, many issues with the chord tool, though. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question
Part of the problem is that there ISN'T a standardised way of writing chord symbols. For instance, CM7, depending on where you live, could mean major or minor 7, while C+7 could mean dom7(#5) or major 7. While Finale DOES have a couple of more-or-less consistent libraries included in some common systems, there are many missing symbols and some common systems are entirely missing. Band In A Box doesn't have to worry about fonts, kerning, or positioning, so its job is a little easier, but that doesn't excuse Finale for not being able to do this better. After the Shape Designer, chords are the worst aspect of Finale right now. I would say that creating your own library and loading it into your default document is the only way to go. Delete the ones that are there first, though. BTW, there are problems with certain libraries when loaded into documents with different default music fonts. When you load the Arial library into a Jazz document, all the parentheses change to Jazz, which have different baselines than Arial so they are not only in the wrong font, they are also the wrong vertical position. The same problem occurs when you load a JazzCord library into a Maestro document, in reverse. You can edit them manually, but this is a huge job I would rather not do every time I load a frickin' chord library. I edited them once in my default document, and leave it alone now. Christopher On Sat May 17, at SaturdayMay 17 7:12 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: I use chord symbols on almost every project I do, and Finale drives me nuts every time. For me, the spacing is the least of my problems (although I agree spacing is not great). To me, it is a lot more basic. Every chord I want to enter, Finale doesn't seem to recognize, and it doesn't seem to follow any common nomenclature system consistently. I suppose after all these years, I should have dug into it and crated my own library, but I haven't. How is it that if you use a program like Band-in-a-box, it knows what I mean in about 95% of the cases, but Finale doesn't seem to recognize the most basic suffixes? Is this solvable by developing a better library or are the problems endemic in the software instead? If it is a library issue, maybe a group can collaborate to develop a library that actually works. On 5/15/2014 5:26 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Once you get a nice library set up (with that tiny little un-resizeable edit window where the nudge buttons don't work!) it is pretty painless. I have many, many issues with the chord tool, though. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question
What Christopher suggests is (pretty much as always), the best way I have found to do things. It does require taking the time to create a suffix library, but once it's done - it's done. I use Bill Duncan's chord symbol and chord suffix fonts and find them attractive and flexible enough, and slash chords are handled pretty well. All my templates are pre-loaded with the necessary suffixes. I avoid the jazz font and any other computer font that pretends to look handwritten. The built in dichotomy of seeing something that pretends to have a personal touch reproduced identically with unerring computer precision is more than I can tolerate, and it always looks ugly to me. I also agree with Christopher that this is a problem for a music program to handle because of inconsistencies in the way different folks choose to write chord symbol shorthand. Bill Evans had a personal way of doing it that I read with ease when working with him - a system that no one else I know uses. Dominant 7ths were written normally. Major 7ths had a horizontal slash through the 7, the way Europeans write a 7 in order to distinguish it from a 1, which they commonly write with such a long hook on top that it can be mistaken for a 7. Bill's method was perfectly efficient and made a symbol like Fm Maj7 far more compact and easily understood. Accommodating all the quirky ways that people write chord symbols is a lot to ask of a notation program. Chuck On May 17, 2014, at 5:15 AM, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: Part of the problem is that there ISN'T a standardised way of writing chord symbols. For instance, CM7, depending on where you live, could mean major or minor 7, while C+7 could mean dom7(#5) or major 7. While Finale DOES have a couple of more-or-less consistent libraries included in some common systems, there are many missing symbols and some common systems are entirely missing. Band In A Box doesn't have to worry about fonts, kerning, or positioning, so its job is a little easier, but that doesn't excuse Finale for not being able to do this better. After the Shape Designer, chords are the worst aspect of Finale right now. I would say that creating your own library and loading it into your default document is the only way to go. Delete the ones that are there first, though. BTW, there are problems with certain libraries when loaded into documents with different default music fonts. When you load the Arial library into a Jazz document, all the parentheses change to Jazz, which have different baselines than Arial so they are not only in the wrong font, they are also the wrong vertical position. The same problem occurs when you load a JazzCord library into a Maestro document, in reverse. You can edit them manually, but this is a huge job I would rather not do every time I load a frickin' chord library. I edited them once in my default document, and leave it alone now. Christopher On Sat May 17, at SaturdayMay 17 7:12 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: I use chord symbols on almost every project I do, and Finale drives me nuts every time. For me, the spacing is the least of my problems (although I agree spacing is not great). To me, it is a lot more basic. Every chord I want to enter, Finale doesn't seem to recognize, and it doesn't seem to follow any common nomenclature system consistently. I suppose after all these years, I should have dug into it and crated my own library, but I haven't. How is it that if you use a program like Band-in-a-box, it knows what I mean in about 95% of the cases, but Finale doesn't seem to recognize the most basic suffixes? Is this solvable by developing a better library or are the problems endemic in the software instead? If it is a library issue, maybe a group can collaborate to develop a library that actually works. On 5/15/2014 5:26 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Once you get a nice library set up (with that tiny little un-resizeable edit window where the nudge buttons don't work!) it is pretty painless. I have many, many issues with the chord tool, though. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Chord symbol question
I'm finding that when I add a chord suffix to an altered chord, eg F#7, the suffix is too close to the # sign. It's fine with a plain chord letter name. Is there a way to add some space after the accidental? I suppose I could create a whole duplicate set of symbols with a little extra space before each one but this seems overkill. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question
Hi John I've often suggested offsets for such scenarios but never, until you've mentioned this, found anyone else who was bothered by Finale's lack of precision in this respect. My suffix libraries include a duplicate set of suffixes which start about 5 EVPU further to the right for those I use most often. You'll probably find my posts about it in the Finale forums by searching for Chord Suffix Kerning or similar. Then again, maybe this has been updated, or there's a better way to do it, so I'm very interested to see what anyone else has to say about it. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 15 May 2014 15:56, John Roberts an...@nycap.rr.com wrote: I'm finding that when I add a chord suffix to an altered chord, eg F#7, the suffix is too close to the # sign. It's fine with a plain chord letter name. Is there a way to add some space after the accidental? I suppose I could create a whole duplicate set of symbols with a little extra space before each one but this seems overkill. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question
I'm bugged by it. In fact the thing that bugs me most is that if you open up a bit of space to allow for the sharp, then a root WITHOUT an alteration seems to have too BIG of a gap. I created a whole set of custom suffixes, but of course Finale being what it is, they took me a very long time and I'm still not happy with them, partly because of the gap problem. Christopher On Thu May 15, at ThursdayMay 15 11:02 AM, Simon Troup wrote: Hi John I've often suggested offsets for such scenarios but never, until you've mentioned this, found anyone else who was bothered by Finale's lack of precision in this respect. My suffix libraries include a duplicate set of suffixes which start about 5 EVPU further to the right for those I use most often. You'll probably find my posts about it in the Finale forums by searching for Chord Suffix Kerning or similar. Then again, maybe this has been updated, or there's a better way to do it, so I'm very interested to see what anyone else has to say about it. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 15 May 2014 15:56, John Roberts an...@nycap.rr.com wrote: I'm finding that when I add a chord suffix to an altered chord, eg F#7, the suffix is too close to the # sign. It's fine with a plain chord letter name. Is there a way to add some space after the accidental? I suppose I could create a whole duplicate set of symbols with a little extra space before each one but this seems overkill. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question
I think all that's required is an Horizontal offset for chords with alterations setting. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 15 May 2014 17:01, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.cawrote: I'm bugged by it. In fact the thing that bugs me most is that if you open up a bit of space to allow for the sharp, then a root WITHOUT an alteration seems to have too BIG of a gap. I created a whole set of custom suffixes, but of course Finale being what it is, they took me a very long time and I'm still not happy with them, partly because of the gap problem. Christopher On Thu May 15, at ThursdayMay 15 11:02 AM, Simon Troup wrote: Hi John I've often suggested offsets for such scenarios but never, until you've mentioned this, found anyone else who was bothered by Finale's lack of precision in this respect. My suffix libraries include a duplicate set of suffixes which start about 5 EVPU further to the right for those I use most often. You'll probably find my posts about it in the Finale forums by searching for Chord Suffix Kerning or similar. Then again, maybe this has been updated, or there's a better way to do it, so I'm very interested to see what anyone else has to say about it. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 15 May 2014 15:56, John Roberts an...@nycap.rr.com wrote: I'm finding that when I add a chord suffix to an altered chord, eg F#7, the suffix is too close to the # sign. It's fine with a plain chord letter name. Is there a way to add some space after the accidental? I suppose I could create a whole duplicate set of symbols with a little extra space before each one but this seems overkill. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question
Thank you both for the input. I've usually used lyrics for chord symbols, using one of the Metronome fonts which mixes music symbols with texts and has a nice set of superscript numbers, but I was getting a random bug in Fin2012 where lyrics would suddenly get out of sync with their corresponding music. 2014 crashes too much so I went back to 2012, and decided to try the chord tool more seriously. But I don't much like the results, or the effort/results ratio. John On 5/15/14, 12:22 PM, Simon Troup wrote: I think all that's required is an Horizontal offset for chords with alterations setting. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 15 May 2014 17:01, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.cawrote: I'm bugged by it. In fact the thing that bugs me most is that if you open up a bit of space to allow for the sharp, then a root WITHOUT an alteration seems to have too BIG of a gap. I created a whole set of custom suffixes, but of course Finale being what it is, they took me a very long time and I'm still not happy with them, partly because of the gap problem. Christopher On Thu May 15, at ThursdayMay 15 11:02 AM, Simon Troup wrote: Hi John I've often suggested offsets for such scenarios but never, until you've mentioned this, found anyone else who was bothered by Finale's lack of precision in this respect. My suffix libraries include a duplicate set of suffixes which start about 5 EVPU further to the right for those I use most often. You'll probably find my posts about it in the Finale forums by searching for Chord Suffix Kerning or similar. Then again, maybe this has been updated, or there's a better way to do it, so I'm very interested to see what anyone else has to say about it. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 15 May 2014 15:56, John Roberts an...@nycap.rr.com wrote: I'm finding that when I add a chord suffix to an altered chord, eg F#7, the suffix is too close to the # sign. It's fine with a plain chord letter name. Is there a way to add some space after the accidental? I suppose I could create a whole duplicate set of symbols with a little extra space before each one but this seems overkill. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question
Once you get a nice library set up (with that tiny little un-resizeable edit window where the nudge buttons don't work!) it is pretty painless. I have many, many issues with the chord tool, though. Christopher On Thu May 15, at ThursdayMay 15 5:23 PM, John Roberts wrote: Thank you both for the input. I've usually used lyrics for chord symbols, using one of the Metronome fonts which mixes music symbols with texts and has a nice set of superscript numbers, but I was getting a random bug in Fin2012 where lyrics would suddenly get out of sync with their corresponding music. 2014 crashes too much so I went back to 2012, and decided to try the chord tool more seriously. But I don't much like the results, or the effort/results ratio. John On 5/15/14, 12:22 PM, Simon Troup wrote: I think all that's required is an Horizontal offset for chords with alterations setting. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 15 May 2014 17:01, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.cawrote: I'm bugged by it. In fact the thing that bugs me most is that if you open up a bit of space to allow for the sharp, then a root WITHOUT an alteration seems to have too BIG of a gap. I created a whole set of custom suffixes, but of course Finale being what it is, they took me a very long time and I'm still not happy with them, partly because of the gap problem. Christopher On Thu May 15, at ThursdayMay 15 11:02 AM, Simon Troup wrote: Hi John I've often suggested offsets for such scenarios but never, until you've mentioned this, found anyone else who was bothered by Finale's lack of precision in this respect. My suffix libraries include a duplicate set of suffixes which start about 5 EVPU further to the right for those I use most often. You'll probably find my posts about it in the Finale forums by searching for Chord Suffix Kerning or similar. Then again, maybe this has been updated, or there's a better way to do it, so I'm very interested to see what anyone else has to say about it. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 15 May 2014 15:56, John Roberts an...@nycap.rr.com wrote: I'm finding that when I add a chord suffix to an altered chord, eg F#7, the suffix is too close to the # sign. It's fine with a plain chord letter name. Is there a way to add some space after the accidental? I suppose I could create a whole duplicate set of symbols with a little extra space before each one but this seems overkill. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question
Lol, Christopher, yes, the Window Of Shame. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 15 May 2014 22:26, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.cawrote: Once you get a nice library set up (with that tiny little un-resizeable edit window where the nudge buttons don't work!) it is pretty painless. I have many, many issues with the chord tool, though. Christopher On Thu May 15, at ThursdayMay 15 5:23 PM, John Roberts wrote: Thank you both for the input. I've usually used lyrics for chord symbols, using one of the Metronome fonts which mixes music symbols with texts and has a nice set of superscript numbers, but I was getting a random bug in Fin2012 where lyrics would suddenly get out of sync with their corresponding music. 2014 crashes too much so I went back to 2012, and decided to try the chord tool more seriously. But I don't much like the results, or the effort/results ratio. John On 5/15/14, 12:22 PM, Simon Troup wrote: I think all that's required is an Horizontal offset for chords with alterations setting. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 15 May 2014 17:01, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: I'm bugged by it. In fact the thing that bugs me most is that if you open up a bit of space to allow for the sharp, then a root WITHOUT an alteration seems to have too BIG of a gap. I created a whole set of custom suffixes, but of course Finale being what it is, they took me a very long time and I'm still not happy with them, partly because of the gap problem. Christopher On Thu May 15, at ThursdayMay 15 11:02 AM, Simon Troup wrote: Hi John I've often suggested offsets for such scenarios but never, until you've mentioned this, found anyone else who was bothered by Finale's lack of precision in this respect. My suffix libraries include a duplicate set of suffixes which start about 5 EVPU further to the right for those I use most often. You'll probably find my posts about it in the Finale forums by searching for Chord Suffix Kerning or similar. Then again, maybe this has been updated, or there's a better way to do it, so I'm very interested to see what anyone else has to say about it. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 15 May 2014 15:56, John Roberts an...@nycap.rr.com wrote: I'm finding that when I add a chord suffix to an altered chord, eg F#7, the suffix is too close to the # sign. It's fine with a plain chord letter name. Is there a way to add some space after the accidental? I suppose I could create a whole duplicate set of symbols with a little extra space before each one but this seems overkill. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Question
On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote: On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:28 PM, ThomaStudios wrote: Always put the highest altered extension on top, and go down in order. IOW: #9 #5 in one ( ) Thanks a bunch for the clarification! Now the question is - how do I DO this in Finale?! I mean - how do I make it put these 2 intervals in one ( ) and underneath each other? I can't figure out how to type it in that way! You don't say which font you are using, but the JazzFont default comes with a bunch of pre-made suffixes (suffices?) that are stacked more or less correctly, though as you point out in a later message, they don't all contain the proper parentheses nor do they all adhere to the best conventions of chord notation. Chord suffixes are a HUGE pain in the tuches, and I have already sent long and detailed suggestions to MakeMusic on how to improve things, so far to no avail. Bill Duncan has the best solution to date for Maestro/Engraver type fonts, incorporating all kinds of neat workarounds for Finale's inadequacies http://gwmp.com/MusicFontsFrameset.htm click on ChordSymbol, ChordSuffix while JazzFont, included in Finale, is a barely adequate solution for JazzFont documents. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Chord Symbol Question
Hi, Everyone - I have a song with lots of jazz chords that I've never used before and need some help in how to display them properly! For example, a G7 (#5, #9) - how can I make it display with the #5 then the #9 underneath? Like this: G7(#5 #9) (except with only 1 set of parentheses) I might have further questions as I go in this song - thanks for any help!! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Question
Always put the highest altered extension on top, and go down in order. IOW: #9 #5 in one ( ) *** J D Thomas ThomaStudios West Linn OR 97068 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thomastudios.com *** On Apr 28, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote: Hi, Everyone - I have a song with lots of jazz chords that I've never used before and need some help in how to display them properly! For example, a G7 (#5, #9) - how can I make it display with the #5 then the #9 underneath? Like this: G7(#5 #9) (except with only 1 set of parentheses) I might have further questions as I go in this song - thanks for any help!! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Question
On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:28 PM, ThomaStudios wrote: Always put the highest altered extension on top, and go down in order. IOW: #9 #5 in one ( ) Thanks a bunch for the clarification! Now the question is - how do I DO this in Finale?! I mean - how do I make it put these 2 intervals in one ( ) and underneath each other? I can't figure out how to type it in that way! Thanks again! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Question
You will have to go into the chord suffix library and set it up. It's a bit tedious and convoluted in Finale, but the good news is, you only have to do it once. Just save your library when finished. HTH. J.D. Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 28, 2006, at 4:40 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote: On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:28 PM, ThomaStudios wrote: Always put the highest altered extension on top, and go down in order. IOW: #9 #5 in one ( ) Thanks a bunch for the clarification! Now the question is - how do I DO this in Finale?! I mean - how do I make it put these 2 intervals in one ( ) and underneath each other? I can't figure out how to type it in that way! Thanks again! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Question
Dear Jacki, It's been a while since I used Finale's chord suffix editor, since I use a special chord font, but here's what I think will work: Click on the note to which you want to attach the chord (with the chord tool and manual input selected). A window will open with a place to select the root of the chord. To the right of that is a toggle that says Show/Hide Advanced. Select show advanced and then select an existing chord suffix from the available library of chords. There will be a select place near the bottom of that window which will bring up the library. Pick one which matches as closely as possible the one you want to create. It doesn't need to be exact, because you're going to change it anyway. You're really going to use it to learn how to make your own suffixes - or customize Finale's. When you have selected one, there'll be a place to select duplicate. Do this so that you are working with a copy of the original, and the original will remain untouched, in case you need it later. Then select the duplicate and find the edit button. Select that, and now you will be in the window that allows selection and positioning of chord suffix elements. A little playing with that should make it clear how to add and remove elements and position them vertically and horizontally. Try this, and if you have trouble after you've gotten this far, write again, and I'll continue to help, but this should become clear after a little playing with it. Chuck On Apr 28, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote: Hi, Everyone - I have a song with lots of jazz chords that I've never used before and need some help in how to display them properly! For example, a G7 (#5, #9) - how can I make it display with the #5 then the #9 underneath? Like this: G7(#5 #9) (except with only 1 set of parentheses) I might have further questions as I go in this song - thanks for any help!! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
