[Finale] Closing group barline at the end of a system & Text bloc
Dear Finale-colleagues, at this moment I have two questions: 1.) Is it possible to close a group barline only at the END of each system? I've looked in the Help, and the only way I found was to insert a "false" barline, which means I have to draw lines on all 180 pages (that makes. how many systems?!) for closing the group. So my question: is there a better way?!? 2.) Is it possible to place a text bloc VERTICALLY on a page? The only way I can think of is making a tiff-file (already vertical) and place that on the page. But is there a way to do this directly with Finale? I would be very glad if you could answer these questions! By the way, I'm working with Finale 2005 (Win - if it matters) Thanks, Minke ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Closing group barline at the end of a system & Text bloc
On 24 Oct 2006 at 18:32, Minke Hylarides wrote: > Dear Finale-colleagues, > > at this moment I have two questions: > > > > 1.) Is it possible to close a group barline only at the END of each system? > I've looked in the Help, and the only way I found was to insert a "false" > barline, which means I have to draw lines on all 180 pages (that makes. how > many systems?!) for closing the group. > > So my question: is there a better way?!? > Document options, Barlines. Check "Close barlines at end of each system" Regards Rafael Velasco ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Closing group barline at the end of a system & Text bloc
Hi Minke, Give me a call and I'll explain how to accomplish this. Barbara Minke Hylarides wrote: Dear Finale-colleagues, at this moment I have two questions: 1.) Is it possible to close a group barline only at the END of each system? I've looked in the Help, and the only way I found was to insert a "false" barline, which means I have to draw lines on all 180 pages (that makes. how many systems?!) for closing the group. So my question: is there a better way?!? 2.) Is it possible to place a text bloc VERTICALLY on a page? The only way I can think of is making a tiff-file (already vertical) and place that on the page. But is there a way to do this directly with Finale? I would be very glad if you could answer these questions! By the way, I'm working with Finale 2005 (Win - if it matters) Thanks, Minke ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Closing group barline at the end of a system & Text bloc
On Oct 24, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Minke Hylarides wrote: 2.) Is it possible to place a text bloc VERTICALLY on a page? The only way I can think of is making a tiff-file (already vertical) and place that on the page. But is there a way to do this directly with Finale? Do you mean rotated text? While this is hard to do, there is one little tool in Finale that allows this - the custom line tool. Select the Smart shape tool, go into Smart Shape Menu, select Smart Shape Options. Select Smart Lines: Custom Line and hit Edit. In the Smart Line selection box, click Create. Line Thickness zero, then click Text>Center Full: Edit. Enter the text you want rotated (like "Chorus") OK your way back to the score. When you select the Custom line (looks like a question mark) and double click and drag to enter it, you will have freely rotating text! You only have 180 degrees to rotate it in, (actually, only 179) but this is usually sufficient. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Closing group barline at the end of a system & Text bloc
Christopher Smith described the method with the custom line tool. But there's another way, by making the text into a "custom arrowhead", which permits 360° rotation: - Use the Expression tool and go through the usual steps to get to the Shape Designer. - Draw a line, then select it. - Choose "Arrowheads..." in the Shape Designer menu. - Choose "Custom" next to "End" and click on create. - Another Shape Designer window opens where you can create the custom arrowhead. Here you type in the text block, choosing font and making carriage returns as needed. - Once you've typed in the text, OK the dialogs to get back to the original Shape Designer window. There will be a line with your text at the end of it. - Rotate the line until the text is going in the direction you want it to, then give the line zero thickness so it no longer shows up. - You now have a shape expression containing vertical text which can be placed anywhere in the score. On 24 Oct 2006, at 18:32, Minke Hylarides wrote: 2.) Is it possible to place a text bloc VERTICALLY on a page? The only way I can think of is making a tiff-file (already vertical) and place that on the page. But is there a way to do this directly with Finale? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Closing group barline at the end of a system & Text bloc
Minke Hylarides wrote: 2.) Is it possible to place a text bloc VERTICALLY on a page? The only way I can think of is making a tiff-file (already vertical) and place that on the page. But is there a way to do this directly with Finale? Depends upon how long the text block is. For a lengthy text block, creating and importing a graphic may be the only way, but a one work around for a short text block is to define it as a smart shape. Select the smart shape, and on the smart shape palette, open the shape designer by pressing CTRL while you click on the custom smart shape tool (the line with the question mark over it). In the top left corner of the box, set the line style to solid, and the thickness of the line to 0. Choose one of the options in the bottom panel of the window, labeled "text", and enter the text you want to display vertically. If you do not select the "keep horizontal" option in the top left frame, you will be able to apply this shape as a measure attached vertical "text shape". If the text you want to enter needs to be entered as two or more lines, I suspect you will have to create each line as a separate smart shape, and place each individually; the smart shape labels do not support embedded carriage returns or line feeds. I don't presently have 2k5 installed, but this works in both 2k, and 2k6. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Closing group barline at the end of a system & Text bloc
Oh isn't that cute! I never would have thought of that. Great tip, Michael! Christopher On Oct 24, 2006, at 4:45 PM, Michael Cook wrote: Christopher Smith described the method with the custom line tool. But there's another way, by making the text into a "custom arrowhead", which permits 360° rotation: - Use the Expression tool and go through the usual steps to get to the Shape Designer. - Draw a line, then select it. - Choose "Arrowheads..." in the Shape Designer menu. - Choose "Custom" next to "End" and click on create. - Another Shape Designer window opens where you can create the custom arrowhead. Here you type in the text block, choosing font and making carriage returns as needed. - Once you've typed in the text, OK the dialogs to get back to the original Shape Designer window. There will be a line with your text at the end of it. - Rotate the line until the text is going in the direction you want it to, then give the line zero thickness so it no longer shows up. - You now have a shape expression containing vertical text which can be placed anywhere in the score. On 24 Oct 2006, at 18:32, Minke Hylarides wrote: 2.) Is it possible to place a text bloc VERTICALLY on a page? The only way I can think of is making a tiff-file (already vertical) and place that on the page. But is there a way to do this directly with Finale? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Closing group barline at the end of a system & Text bloc
Thanks Michael, it works! But the answer from Rafael about closing barlines was not what I meant: I meant closing just the GROUP barline at the end of the system, not of the entire orchestra. Is there anyone who knows this? Thanks for now, Minke NB: Barbara, I will call you! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- - Use the Expression tool and go through the usual steps to get to the Shape Designer. - Draw a line, then select it. - Choose "Arrowheads..." in the Shape Designer menu. - Choose "Custom" next to "End" and click on create. - Another Shape Designer window opens where you can create the custom arrowhead. Here you type in the text block, choosing font and making carriage returns as needed. - Once you've typed in the text, OK the dialogs to get back to the original Shape Designer window. There will be a line with your text at the end of it. - Rotate the line until the text is going in the direction you want it to, then give the line zero thickness so it no longer shows up. - You now have a shape expression containing vertical text which can be placed anywhere in the score. On 24 Oct 2006, at 18:32, Minke Hylarides wrote: > 2.) Is it possible to place a text bloc VERTICALLY on a page? The > only way I > can think of is making a tiff-file (already vertical) and place > that on the > page. But is there a way to do this directly with Finale? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Closing group barline at the end of a system & Text bloc
You want group barlines only at the end of each system? I can't think of a way to get that done automatically, but here's a method that might be faster than drawing them by hand: - Set the group to have barlines drawn through staves. Now of course you have many barlines where you don't want them, but they are easy to get rid of: - Create a staff style called "break barlines" with the attribute "Break Barlines Between Staves" checked. - Define a Metatool for the staff style (just to make things faster, since you're going to apply the style many, many times!). - Apply the style where needed. On each system you'll just need to drag-select all the measures in the group apart from the last one, and then press the metatool. On 25 Oct 2006, at 09:06, Minke Hylarides wrote: But the answer from Rafael about closing barlines was not what I meant: I meant closing just the GROUP barline at the end of the system, not of the entire orchestra. Is there anyone who knows this? Thanks for now, Minke ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Closing group barline at the end of a system & Text bloc
Thanks Michael, you're great! Minke -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Michael Cook You want group barlines only at the end of each system? I can't think of a way to get that done automatically, but here's a method that might be faster than drawing them by hand: - Set the group to have barlines drawn through staves. Now of course you have many barlines where you don't want them, but they are easy to get rid of: - Create a staff style called "break barlines" with the attribute "Break Barlines Between Staves" checked. - Define a Metatool for the staff style (just to make things faster, since you're going to apply the style many, many times!). - Apply the style where needed. On each system you'll just need to drag-select all the measures in the group apart from the last one, and then press the metatool. On 25 Oct 2006, at 09:06, Minke Hylarides wrote: > But the answer from Rafael about closing barlines was not what I > meant: I > meant closing just the GROUP barline at the end of the system, not > of the > entire orchestra. > Is there anyone who knows this? > > Thanks for now, > Minke > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
