Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor
Thank you for your suggestions. Michael's solution was perfect: b2, #3, #4, #6, #7 for a harmonic minor scale. Sincerely, Patricia Spedden From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Haroldo Mauro [hma...@hmauro.com] Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 9:03 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor That is correct. But it seems that for some reason she had b8 selected instead of #7 in the Key Spelling Dialog. So I figured all she wants is to select #7. Harold On 04/07/2014, at 08:25, Giovanni Andreani wrote: > I thought that just by selecting a minor key the correct use of the sixth and > the seventh degrees would be automatically handled in the correct way > > Giovanni Andreani > >> On 4 Jul 2014, at 12:07, Michael wrote: >> >> Humble apologies: I inverted sharps and flats! The default spelling for >> minor keys is: >> >> b2, #3, #4, #6, #7 >> >> That should solve the problem. >> >> Michael >> >>> On 4 Jul 2014, at 06:08, Patricia Spedden wrote: >>> >>> Thank you for taking the time to offer suggestions. >>> >>> I must really be doing something wrong. My dialog box does not even >>> provide the options you suggest--#2, b3, b6, or b7. I tried to send an >>> attachment with a screen shot of my dialog box, but the attachment was too >>> large to send. So, I'll list below the only options available to me in my >>> Edit Major & Minor Key Spellings dialog box: >>> >>> Minor Keys >>> Fixed Scale Step >>> Altered Scale Step >>> Raise #1 #3 #4 #6 #7 >>> Lower b2 b4 b5 b7 b8 >>> >>> The Fixed Scale Step option offers the natural minor scale form, which is >>> what you get when using Default Spelling. I see no way to change the >>> Altered Scale Steps options available to provide the needed 1-½ steps >>> between scale steps 7 & 8 to get the harmonic minor--and as you can see, >>> your suggested #2, b3, & b6 don’t appear to be available. >>> >>> Please advise. >>> >>> Patricia Spedden >>> > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor
That DID solve the problem: b2, #3, #4, #6, #7. Thank you so much for this solution and for taking your time to help. Sincerely, Patricia Spedden From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Michael [launay-c...@gmx.net] Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:07 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor Humble apologies: I inverted sharps and flats! The default spelling for minor keys is: b2, #3, #4, #6, #7 That should solve the problem. Michael On 4 Jul 2014, at 06:08, Patricia Spedden wrote: > Thank you for taking the time to offer suggestions. > > I must really be doing something wrong. My dialog box does not even provide > the options you suggest--#2, b3, b6, or b7. I tried to send an attachment > with a screen shot of my dialog box, but the attachment was too large to > send. So, I'll list below the only options available to me in my Edit Major > & Minor Key Spellings dialog box: > > Minor Keys > Fixed Scale Step > Altered Scale Step > Raise #1 #3 #4 #6 #7 > Lower b2 b4 b5 b7 b8 > > The Fixed Scale Step option offers the natural minor scale form, which is > what you get when using Default Spelling. I see no way to change the Altered > Scale Steps options available to provide the needed 1-½ steps between scale > steps 7 & 8 to get the harmonic minor--and as you can see, your suggested #2, > b3, & b6 don’t appear to be available. > > Please advise. > > Patricia Spedden > > From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Michael > [launay-c...@gmx.net] > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 7:32 AM > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor > > I just tried this: > > Key set to G minor (“Minor Key” is chosen in the Key Signature dialog). > Enharmonic Spelling is set to “Use Spelling Tables”. > Minor Key Spelling table is set to default: #2, b3, b4, b6, b7. > > If I enter an F# using my MIDI keyboard, an F# appears in the score. Do you > not get this result with the settings above? > > Best wishes, > Michael > > On 3 Jul 2014, at 06:11, Patricia Spedden wrote: > >> In response to Christopher: >> >> Thank you for your response. Actually, I couldn't figure out how to use the >> spelling tables either. Under Minor Keys, the default altered notes are #6 >> & #7, but that does not result in a raised 7th. The other two choices are >> b7 & b8. I've tried every combination of those options, but still get a Gb >> instead of an F# in the key of G harmonic minor. What am I doing wrong here? >> >> I do bounce between Favor Sharps/Favor Flats, but that gets cumbersome, and >> sometimes I need both, as with an augmented III chord. >> >> Thanks, too, for the helpful info on importing MIDI. >> >> Patricia Spedden >> >> >> >> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of >> Christopher Smith [christopher.sm...@videotron.ca] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:12 PM >> To: finale@shsu.edu >> Subject: Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor >> >> Hi PAtricia, >> >> Under the Finale 2012 menu, in Enharmonic Spelling, if I choose "Use >> Spelling Tables" that gives me automatically an F# in Gminor when I am using >> Speedy Entry with a MIDI controller. >> >> I don't understand why that wouldn't be part of "Use Default Spelling" but >> maybe you could open a tech support case to complain about it. It makes no >> sense to me, either. I generally, however, use Favor Sharps or Favor Flats, >> and have set keyboard shortcuts to switch quickly between them. For G harm >> minor, I would use Favour Sharps to make the 7th degree show up as F#. >> >> As for the second question, I would always use Tracks Become Staves. This >> means that if the maker of the MIDI file put the same alto sax sound on the >> same channel on two different staves (Alto Sax 1 and Alto Sax 2, for >> example), it would show up on two different staves, but they hardly ever do >> that. Channels Become Staves would combine them. If I need to combine >> something, I know how Implode Music in Finale works. >> >> The Set Track-to-Staff list means that you already know what the MIDI file >> has, and you want it to import a certain way. This is a terrible option, >> because the only way to know this is if you created the MIDI file yourself, >> in which case you should make it the way you want it already.
Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor
That is correct. But it seems that for some reason she had b8 selected instead of #7 in the Key Spelling Dialog. So I figured all she wants is to select #7. Harold On 04/07/2014, at 08:25, Giovanni Andreani wrote: > I thought that just by selecting a minor key the correct use of the sixth and > the seventh degrees would be automatically handled in the correct way > > Giovanni Andreani > >> On 4 Jul 2014, at 12:07, Michael wrote: >> >> Humble apologies: I inverted sharps and flats! The default spelling for >> minor keys is: >> >> b2, #3, #4, #6, #7 >> >> That should solve the problem. >> >> Michael >> >>> On 4 Jul 2014, at 06:08, Patricia Spedden wrote: >>> >>> Thank you for taking the time to offer suggestions. >>> >>> I must really be doing something wrong. My dialog box does not even >>> provide the options you suggest--#2, b3, b6, or b7. I tried to send an >>> attachment with a screen shot of my dialog box, but the attachment was too >>> large to send. So, I'll list below the only options available to me in my >>> Edit Major & Minor Key Spellings dialog box: >>> >>> Minor Keys >>> Fixed Scale Step >>> Altered Scale Step >>> Raise #1 #3 #4 #6 #7 >>> Lower b2 b4 b5 b7 b8 >>> >>> The Fixed Scale Step option offers the natural minor scale form, which is >>> what you get when using Default Spelling. I see no way to change the >>> Altered Scale Steps options available to provide the needed 1-½ steps >>> between scale steps 7 & 8 to get the harmonic minor--and as you can see, >>> your suggested #2, b3, & b6 don’t appear to be available. >>> >>> Please advise. >>> >>> Patricia Spedden >>> > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor
I thought that just by selecting a minor key the correct use of the sixth and the seventh degrees would be automatically handled in the correct way Giovanni Andreani > On 4 Jul 2014, at 12:07, Michael wrote: > > Humble apologies: I inverted sharps and flats! The default spelling for minor > keys is: > > b2, #3, #4, #6, #7 > > That should solve the problem. > > Michael > >> On 4 Jul 2014, at 06:08, Patricia Spedden wrote: >> >> Thank you for taking the time to offer suggestions. >> >> I must really be doing something wrong. My dialog box does not even provide >> the options you suggest--#2, b3, b6, or b7. I tried to send an attachment >> with a screen shot of my dialog box, but the attachment was too large to >> send. So, I'll list below the only options available to me in my Edit >> Major & Minor Key Spellings dialog box: >> >> Minor Keys >> Fixed Scale Step >> Altered Scale Step >>Raise #1 #3 #4 #6 #7 >>Lower b2 b4 b5 b7 b8 >> >> The Fixed Scale Step option offers the natural minor scale form, which is >> what you get when using Default Spelling. I see no way to change the >> Altered Scale Steps options available to provide the needed 1-½ steps >> between scale steps 7 & 8 to get the harmonic minor--and as you can see, >> your suggested #2, b3, & b6 don’t appear to be available. >> >> Please advise. >> >> Patricia Spedden >> ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor
Humble apologies: I inverted sharps and flats! The default spelling for minor keys is: b2, #3, #4, #6, #7 That should solve the problem. Michael On 4 Jul 2014, at 06:08, Patricia Spedden wrote: > Thank you for taking the time to offer suggestions. > > I must really be doing something wrong. My dialog box does not even provide > the options you suggest--#2, b3, b6, or b7. I tried to send an attachment > with a screen shot of my dialog box, but the attachment was too large to > send. So, I'll list below the only options available to me in my Edit Major > & Minor Key Spellings dialog box: > > Minor Keys > Fixed Scale Step > Altered Scale Step > Raise #1 #3 #4 #6 #7 > Lower b2 b4 b5 b7 b8 > > The Fixed Scale Step option offers the natural minor scale form, which is > what you get when using Default Spelling. I see no way to change the Altered > Scale Steps options available to provide the needed 1-½ steps between scale > steps 7 & 8 to get the harmonic minor--and as you can see, your suggested #2, > b3, & b6 don’t appear to be available. > > Please advise. > > Patricia Spedden > > From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Michael > [launay-c...@gmx.net] > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 7:32 AM > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor > > I just tried this: > > Key set to G minor (“Minor Key” is chosen in the Key Signature dialog). > Enharmonic Spelling is set to “Use Spelling Tables”. > Minor Key Spelling table is set to default: #2, b3, b4, b6, b7. > > If I enter an F# using my MIDI keyboard, an F# appears in the score. Do you > not get this result with the settings above? > > Best wishes, > Michael > > On 3 Jul 2014, at 06:11, Patricia Spedden wrote: > >> In response to Christopher: >> >> Thank you for your response. Actually, I couldn't figure out how to use the >> spelling tables either. Under Minor Keys, the default altered notes are #6 >> & #7, but that does not result in a raised 7th. The other two choices are >> b7 & b8. I've tried every combination of those options, but still get a Gb >> instead of an F# in the key of G harmonic minor. What am I doing wrong here? >> >> I do bounce between Favor Sharps/Favor Flats, but that gets cumbersome, and >> sometimes I need both, as with an augmented III chord. >> >> Thanks, too, for the helpful info on importing MIDI. >> >> Patricia Spedden >> >> >> >> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of >> Christopher Smith [christopher.sm...@videotron.ca] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:12 PM >> To: finale@shsu.edu >> Subject: Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor >> >> Hi PAtricia, >> >> Under the Finale 2012 menu, in Enharmonic Spelling, if I choose "Use >> Spelling Tables" that gives me automatically an F# in Gminor when I am using >> Speedy Entry with a MIDI controller. >> >> I don't understand why that wouldn't be part of "Use Default Spelling" but >> maybe you could open a tech support case to complain about it. It makes no >> sense to me, either. I generally, however, use Favor Sharps or Favor Flats, >> and have set keyboard shortcuts to switch quickly between them. For G harm >> minor, I would use Favour Sharps to make the 7th degree show up as F#. >> >> As for the second question, I would always use Tracks Become Staves. This >> means that if the maker of the MIDI file put the same alto sax sound on the >> same channel on two different staves (Alto Sax 1 and Alto Sax 2, for >> example), it would show up on two different staves, but they hardly ever do >> that. Channels Become Staves would combine them. If I need to combine >> something, I know how Implode Music in Finale works. >> >> The Set Track-to-Staff list means that you already know what the MIDI file >> has, and you want it to import a certain way. This is a terrible option, >> because the only way to know this is if you created the MIDI file yourself, >> in which case you should make it the way you want it already. >> >> Christopher >> >> >> On Wed Jul 2, at WednesdayJul 2 10:35 PM, Patricia Spedden wrote: >> >>> Finale 2012c, Win 7-64 >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I have 2 questions: >>> >>> 1. Does anyone know how to set a minor key signature that will >>> autom
Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor
Hi Patricia, you don't need the b6 in the minor keys spelling table because it is in the key signature. Same goes for the b3, which eliminates the need for #2 also. All you need to do is to choose #7 instead of b8. Harold Quoting Patricia Spedden : > Thank you for taking the time to offer suggestions. > > I must really be doing something wrong. My dialog box does not even > provide the options you suggest--#2, b3, b6, or b7. I tried to send > an attachment with a screen shot of my dialog box, but the > attachment was too large to send. So, I'll list below the only > options available to me in my Edit Major & Minor Key Spellings > dialog box: > > Minor Keys > Fixed Scale Step > Altered Scale Step > Raise #1 #3 #4 #6 #7 > Lower b2 b4 b5 b7 b8 > > The Fixed Scale Step option offers the natural minor scale form, > which is what you get when using Default Spelling. I see no way to > change the Altered Scale Steps options available to provide the > needed 1-½ steps between scale steps 7 & 8 to get the harmonic > minor--and as you can see, your suggested #2, b3, & b6 don’t appear > to be available. > > Please advise. > > Patricia Spedden > > From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of > Michael [launay-c...@gmx.net] > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 7:32 AM > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor > > I just tried this: > > Key set to G minor (“Minor Key” is chosen in the Key Signature dialog). > Enharmonic Spelling is set to “Use Spelling Tables”. > Minor Key Spelling table is set to default: #2, b3, b4, b6, b7. > > If I enter an F# using my MIDI keyboard, an F# appears in the score. > Do you not get this result with the settings above? > > Best wishes, > Michael > > On 3 Jul 2014, at 06:11, Patricia Spedden wrote: > >> In response to Christopher: >> >> Thank you for your response. Actually, I couldn't figure out how >> to use the spelling tables either. Under Minor Keys, the default >> altered notes are #6 & #7, but that does not result in a raised >> 7th. The other two choices are b7 & b8. I've tried every >> combination of those options, but still get a Gb instead of an F# >> in the key of G harmonic minor. What am I doing wrong here? >> >> I do bounce between Favor Sharps/Favor Flats, but that gets >> cumbersome, and sometimes I need both, as with an augmented III >> chord. >> >> Thanks, too, for the helpful info on importing MIDI. >> >> Patricia Spedden >> >> >> >> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf >> Of Christopher Smith [christopher.sm...@videotron.ca] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:12 PM >> To: finale@shsu.edu >> Subject: Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor >> >> Hi PAtricia, >> >> Under the Finale 2012 menu, in Enharmonic Spelling, if I choose >> "Use Spelling Tables" that gives me automatically an F# in Gminor >> when I am using Speedy Entry with a MIDI controller. >> >> I don't understand why that wouldn't be part of "Use Default >> Spelling" but maybe you could open a tech support case to complain >> about it. It makes no sense to me, either. I generally, however, >> use Favor Sharps or Favor Flats, and have set keyboard shortcuts to >> switch quickly between them. For G harm minor, I would use Favour >> Sharps to make the 7th degree show up as F#. >> >> As for the second question, I would always use Tracks Become >> Staves. This means that if the maker of the MIDI file put the same >> alto sax sound on the same channel on two different staves (Alto >> Sax 1 and Alto Sax 2, for example), it would show up on two >> different staves, but they hardly ever do that. Channels Become >> Staves would combine them. If I need to combine something, I know >> how Implode Music in Finale works. >> >> The Set Track-to-Staff list means that you already know what the >> MIDI file has, and you want it to import a certain way. This is a >> terrible option, because the only way to know this is if you >> created the MIDI file yourself, in which case you should make it >> the way you want it already. >> >> Christopher >> >> >> On Wed Jul 2, at WednesdayJul 2 10:35 PM, Patricia Spedden wrote: >> >>> Finale 2012c, Win 7-64 >>> >>> Hello, >>> >&g
Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor
Thank you for taking the time to offer suggestions. I must really be doing something wrong. My dialog box does not even provide the options you suggest--#2, b3, b6, or b7. I tried to send an attachment with a screen shot of my dialog box, but the attachment was too large to send. So, I'll list below the only options available to me in my Edit Major & Minor Key Spellings dialog box: Minor Keys Fixed Scale Step Altered Scale Step Raise #1 #3 #4 #6 #7 Lower b2 b4 b5 b7 b8 The Fixed Scale Step option offers the natural minor scale form, which is what you get when using Default Spelling. I see no way to change the Altered Scale Steps options available to provide the needed 1-½ steps between scale steps 7 & 8 to get the harmonic minor--and as you can see, your suggested #2, b3, & b6 don’t appear to be available. Please advise. Patricia Spedden From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Michael [launay-c...@gmx.net] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 7:32 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor I just tried this: Key set to G minor (“Minor Key” is chosen in the Key Signature dialog). Enharmonic Spelling is set to “Use Spelling Tables”. Minor Key Spelling table is set to default: #2, b3, b4, b6, b7. If I enter an F# using my MIDI keyboard, an F# appears in the score. Do you not get this result with the settings above? Best wishes, Michael On 3 Jul 2014, at 06:11, Patricia Spedden wrote: > In response to Christopher: > > Thank you for your response. Actually, I couldn't figure out how to use the > spelling tables either. Under Minor Keys, the default altered notes are #6 & > #7, but that does not result in a raised 7th. The other two choices are b7 & > b8. I've tried every combination of those options, but still get a Gb > instead of an F# in the key of G harmonic minor. What am I doing wrong here? > > I do bounce between Favor Sharps/Favor Flats, but that gets cumbersome, and > sometimes I need both, as with an augmented III chord. > > Thanks, too, for the helpful info on importing MIDI. > > Patricia Spedden > > > > From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of > Christopher Smith [christopher.sm...@videotron.ca] > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:12 PM > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor > > Hi PAtricia, > > Under the Finale 2012 menu, in Enharmonic Spelling, if I choose "Use Spelling > Tables" that gives me automatically an F# in Gminor when I am using Speedy > Entry with a MIDI controller. > > I don't understand why that wouldn't be part of "Use Default Spelling" but > maybe you could open a tech support case to complain about it. It makes no > sense to me, either. I generally, however, use Favor Sharps or Favor Flats, > and have set keyboard shortcuts to switch quickly between them. For G harm > minor, I would use Favour Sharps to make the 7th degree show up as F#. > > As for the second question, I would always use Tracks Become Staves. This > means that if the maker of the MIDI file put the same alto sax sound on the > same channel on two different staves (Alto Sax 1 and Alto Sax 2, for > example), it would show up on two different staves, but they hardly ever do > that. Channels Become Staves would combine them. If I need to combine > something, I know how Implode Music in Finale works. > > The Set Track-to-Staff list means that you already know what the MIDI file > has, and you want it to import a certain way. This is a terrible option, > because the only way to know this is if you created the MIDI file yourself, > in which case you should make it the way you want it already. > > Christopher > > > On Wed Jul 2, at WednesdayJul 2 10:35 PM, Patricia Spedden wrote: > >> Finale 2012c, Win 7-64 >> >> Hello, >> >> I have 2 questions: >> >> 1. Does anyone know how to set a minor key signature that will >> automatically raise the 7th scale step (rather than lowering tonic 1/2 step) >> when using harmonic minor? For example, in G harmonic minor, every F# >> appears as a Gb. After years of manually raising the 7th scale tone, I'm >> wondering if there is a way for Finale to raise it automatically. I've >> looked at the nonstandard menu (although harmonic minor is hardly >> nonstandard), and cannot figure it out. In a long document with thick >> chords, it takes quite a while to correct all the 7ths. >> >> 2. When importing a free MIDI file, how do you know which of the first 3 >> options to se
Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor
I just tried this: Key set to G minor (“Minor Key” is chosen in the Key Signature dialog). Enharmonic Spelling is set to “Use Spelling Tables”. Minor Key Spelling table is set to default: #2, b3, b4, b6, b7. If I enter an F# using my MIDI keyboard, an F# appears in the score. Do you not get this result with the settings above? Best wishes, Michael On 3 Jul 2014, at 06:11, Patricia Spedden wrote: > In response to Christopher: > > Thank you for your response. Actually, I couldn't figure out how to use the > spelling tables either. Under Minor Keys, the default altered notes are #6 & > #7, but that does not result in a raised 7th. The other two choices are b7 & > b8. I've tried every combination of those options, but still get a Gb > instead of an F# in the key of G harmonic minor. What am I doing wrong here? > > > I do bounce between Favor Sharps/Favor Flats, but that gets cumbersome, and > sometimes I need both, as with an augmented III chord. > > Thanks, too, for the helpful info on importing MIDI. > > Patricia Spedden > > > > From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of > Christopher Smith [christopher.sm...@videotron.ca] > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:12 PM > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor > > Hi PAtricia, > > Under the Finale 2012 menu, in Enharmonic Spelling, if I choose "Use Spelling > Tables" that gives me automatically an F# in Gminor when I am using Speedy > Entry with a MIDI controller. > > I don't understand why that wouldn't be part of "Use Default Spelling" but > maybe you could open a tech support case to complain about it. It makes no > sense to me, either. I generally, however, use Favor Sharps or Favor Flats, > and have set keyboard shortcuts to switch quickly between them. For G harm > minor, I would use Favour Sharps to make the 7th degree show up as F#. > > As for the second question, I would always use Tracks Become Staves. This > means that if the maker of the MIDI file put the same alto sax sound on the > same channel on two different staves (Alto Sax 1 and Alto Sax 2, for > example), it would show up on two different staves, but they hardly ever do > that. Channels Become Staves would combine them. If I need to combine > something, I know how Implode Music in Finale works. > > The Set Track-to-Staff list means that you already know what the MIDI file > has, and you want it to import a certain way. This is a terrible option, > because the only way to know this is if you created the MIDI file yourself, > in which case you should make it the way you want it already. > > Christopher > > > On Wed Jul 2, at WednesdayJul 2 10:35 PM, Patricia Spedden wrote: > >> Finale 2012c, Win 7-64 >> >> Hello, >> >> I have 2 questions: >> >> 1. Does anyone know how to set a minor key signature that will >> automatically raise the 7th scale step (rather than lowering tonic 1/2 step) >> when using harmonic minor? For example, in G harmonic minor, every F# >> appears as a Gb. After years of manually raising the 7th scale tone, I'm >> wondering if there is a way for Finale to raise it automatically. I've >> looked at the nonstandard menu (although harmonic minor is hardly >> nonstandard), and cannot figure it out. In a long document with thick >> chords, it takes quite a while to correct all the 7ths. >> >> 2. When importing a free MIDI file, how do you know which of the first 3 >> options to select in the dialog box--if you don't know how the author set up >> the tracks/channels? (The 3 options are Tracks Become Staves, Channels >> Become Staves, and Set Track-to-Staff List.) Or, do those choices allow you >> to reset tracks/channels in the MIDI file to your own needs? >> >> With appreciation, >> >> Patricia Spedden >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >> > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor
In response to Christopher: Thank you for your response. Actually, I couldn't figure out how to use the spelling tables either. Under Minor Keys, the default altered notes are #6 & #7, but that does not result in a raised 7th. The other two choices are b7 & b8. I've tried every combination of those options, but still get a Gb instead of an F# in the key of G harmonic minor. What am I doing wrong here? I do bounce between Favor Sharps/Favor Flats, but that gets cumbersome, and sometimes I need both, as with an augmented III chord. Thanks, too, for the helpful info on importing MIDI. Patricia Spedden From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith [christopher.sm...@videotron.ca] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:12 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor Hi PAtricia, Under the Finale 2012 menu, in Enharmonic Spelling, if I choose "Use Spelling Tables" that gives me automatically an F# in Gminor when I am using Speedy Entry with a MIDI controller. I don't understand why that wouldn't be part of "Use Default Spelling" but maybe you could open a tech support case to complain about it. It makes no sense to me, either. I generally, however, use Favor Sharps or Favor Flats, and have set keyboard shortcuts to switch quickly between them. For G harm minor, I would use Favour Sharps to make the 7th degree show up as F#. As for the second question, I would always use Tracks Become Staves. This means that if the maker of the MIDI file put the same alto sax sound on the same channel on two different staves (Alto Sax 1 and Alto Sax 2, for example), it would show up on two different staves, but they hardly ever do that. Channels Become Staves would combine them. If I need to combine something, I know how Implode Music in Finale works. The Set Track-to-Staff list means that you already know what the MIDI file has, and you want it to import a certain way. This is a terrible option, because the only way to know this is if you created the MIDI file yourself, in which case you should make it the way you want it already. Christopher On Wed Jul 2, at WednesdayJul 2 10:35 PM, Patricia Spedden wrote: > Finale 2012c, Win 7-64 > > Hello, > > I have 2 questions: > > 1. Does anyone know how to set a minor key signature that will automatically > raise the 7th scale step (rather than lowering tonic 1/2 step) when using > harmonic minor? For example, in G harmonic minor, every F# appears as a Gb. > After years of manually raising the 7th scale tone, I'm wondering if there is > a way for Finale to raise it automatically. I've looked at the nonstandard > menu (although harmonic minor is hardly nonstandard), and cannot figure it > out. In a long document with thick chords, it takes quite a while to correct > all the 7ths. > > 2. When importing a free MIDI file, how do you know which of the first 3 > options to select in the dialog box--if you don't know how the author set up > the tracks/channels? (The 3 options are Tracks Become Staves, Channels > Become Staves, and Set Track-to-Staff List.) Or, do those choices allow you > to reset tracks/channels in the MIDI file to your own needs? > > With appreciation, > > Patricia Spedden > > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Harmonic Minor
Hi PAtricia, Under the Finale 2012 menu, in Enharmonic Spelling, if I choose "Use Spelling Tables" that gives me automatically an F# in Gminor when I am using Speedy Entry with a MIDI controller. I don't understand why that wouldn't be part of "Use Default Spelling" but maybe you could open a tech support case to complain about it. It makes no sense to me, either. I generally, however, use Favor Sharps or Favor Flats, and have set keyboard shortcuts to switch quickly between them. For G harm minor, I would use Favour Sharps to make the 7th degree show up as F#. As for the second question, I would always use Tracks Become Staves. This means that if the maker of the MIDI file put the same alto sax sound on the same channel on two different staves (Alto Sax 1 and Alto Sax 2, for example), it would show up on two different staves, but they hardly ever do that. Channels Become Staves would combine them. If I need to combine something, I know how Implode Music in Finale works. The Set Track-to-Staff list means that you already know what the MIDI file has, and you want it to import a certain way. This is a terrible option, because the only way to know this is if you created the MIDI file yourself, in which case you should make it the way you want it already. Christopher On Wed Jul 2, at WednesdayJul 2 10:35 PM, Patricia Spedden wrote: > Finale 2012c, Win 7-64 > > Hello, > > I have 2 questions: > > 1. Does anyone know how to set a minor key signature that will automatically > raise the 7th scale step (rather than lowering tonic 1/2 step) when using > harmonic minor? For example, in G harmonic minor, every F# appears as a Gb. > After years of manually raising the 7th scale tone, I'm wondering if there is > a way for Finale to raise it automatically. I've looked at the nonstandard > menu (although harmonic minor is hardly nonstandard), and cannot figure it > out. In a long document with thick chords, it takes quite a while to correct > all the 7ths. > > 2. When importing a free MIDI file, how do you know which of the first 3 > options to select in the dialog box--if you don't know how the author set up > the tracks/channels? (The 3 options are Tracks Become Staves, Channels > Become Staves, and Set Track-to-Staff List.) Or, do those choices allow you > to reset tracks/channels in the MIDI file to your own needs? > > With appreciation, > > Patricia Spedden > > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Harmonic Minor
Finale 2012c, Win 7-64 Hello, I have 2 questions: 1. Does anyone know how to set a minor key signature that will automatically raise the 7th scale step (rather than lowering tonic 1/2 step) when using harmonic minor? For example, in G harmonic minor, every F# appears as a Gb. After years of manually raising the 7th scale tone, I'm wondering if there is a way for Finale to raise it automatically. I've looked at the nonstandard menu (although harmonic minor is hardly nonstandard), and cannot figure it out. In a long document with thick chords, it takes quite a while to correct all the 7ths. 2. When importing a free MIDI file, how do you know which of the first 3 options to select in the dialog box--if you don't know how the author set up the tracks/channels? (The 3 options are Tracks Become Staves, Channels Become Staves, and Set Track-to-Staff List.) Or, do those choices allow you to reset tracks/channels in the MIDI file to your own needs? With appreciation, Patricia Spedden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
