Re: [Finale] Losing my way (less!) in Finale 2014
On 1/4/2015 5:25 PM, pa...@mooremusic.org.uk wrote: [snip] No, you're right. What I really meant was that I wanted them spaced equally appropriately. If I just enlarge the rest bar the one next to it is all squished up. [snip] One way to solve your music spacing issue is to have Automatic Music Spacing turned on. To do that, go to the Edit menu, then Preferences, then select Edit from the left-hand column. In the panel on the right you can turn on or off Automatic Update Layout (I keep it turned on while others on this list keep it turned off) and Automatic Music Spacing (I keep that turned on.) I believe that the Automatic Music Spacing isn't always apparent and that sometimes you need to use the Speedy Entry tool and click in that measure, then exit speedy entry and when that is done the proper spacing will occur. If that doesn't work as you wish, then you can manually apply music spacing by going to the Utility menu and selecting Music Spacing, then select the kind of Music Spacing you want. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Losing my way (less!) in Finale 2014
Hello again, After a night's sleep, and a more determined look at the on-line manual I'm wondering how I missed the music spacing instructions, which are in the F2014 Utilities menu. Much to my relief they do exactly what I wanted them to do. Greetings from England, Patsy -- Patsy Moore pa...@mooremusic.org.uk www.da-capo.org.uk From: David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com Patsy Moore pa...@mooremusic.org.uk www.da-capo.org.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Losing my way (less!) in Finale 2014
Hello again, Many thanks Linda and David for your very quick responses. It was wonderfully encouraging to find your friendly messages already waiting when I got back to the computer after a break. I still remember what a relief it was to join the Finale List soon after first trying Finale (having never even used Windows before) and find so many helpful people out there. Linda, I can definitely relate to this! Then I left a gap over a year ago when i installed 2012. I couldn't find anything I was used to. A lot of things were better than before, but many--like changing the names of tools and putting them in a different menu--made me crazy, And there were other problems that even the Finale help site and other forums were of no use. I'm afraid to install 2014 for fear that the things I'm currently working on will be delayed by more changes. This forum has resulted in many, many hints and help, but there are still some elements that remain a mystery. That must be very, very frustrating. I hope there are a lot of Windows users here to guide you through the thicket of changes! That's a very good description. :) From: David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com 1. How can I increase the number of most recently closed items listed at the bottom of the File menu (default seems to be 4)? Edit menu, Preferences, then click on Open in the left-hand panel. On the right once you do that is an option to set the number of Recent Files listed in the File menu. Done! I'm slowly getting better at thinking of the possible ways to interact with tools/ menus/icons, etc. 2. How can I change the default font for e.g. the number above a multi-measure rest? I found a specific item for the default music font, but not the extensive list(s) I expected for all sorts of other elements. To change the default font for anything other than the music font you need to edit the default template, or you need to simply change the font for each document you create. Or you can set the fonts as you wish, then save the Library of all those changes to various items under Document Options and then load that Library into each new document you create. I often generate new files from old and collect the fonts etc. that way, but I may manage to try that out one of these months, thank you. I've saved libraries of e.g. expressions in the past. Just off now to sort out the multi-measure rest font, which will be a noticeable improvement in the readability of my latest parts. 3. I haven't found a way to respace a number of bars if e.g. I want to enlarge a multi-measure rest and then space the remaining bars in the line equally. I'm puzzled that it doesn't seem to be a possibility related to the menu that appears when I right click on one of the measure spacing handles. I'm sure I must be mis sing something. I think you may need to drag the barlines for each measure on those lines -- I don't know of a way to make all the measures on a system be equally spaced. I hope someone else may have found a way to do what you want. I'll be very disappointed if it's no longer possible. Finale will always change the bar lengths according to what is in each bar -- you wouldn't want a bar with only a single whole note to take up as much space as a bar with 16 16th notes would you? No, you're right. What I really meant was that I wanted them spaced equally appropriately. If I just enlarge the rest bar the one next to it is all squished up. Of course, if that's is the result you want, you can achieve that using a hidden layer full of whatever note value you want to determine the bar's width, making it visible when you do your spacing and then hiding it for printing after you've locked the layout. That's a useful reminder, thanks. I have done simlar things with hidden notes in the past. Best wishes Patsy -- Patsy Moore pa...@mooremusic.org.uk www.da-capo.org.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Losing my way (less!) in Finale 2014
Regarding #3, you'll get the effect I think you want if you change a measure's width using the Measure Attributes or Edit Multimeasure Rests dialog, rather than dragging the barline -- you'll change the width of the particular measure, and the other measures in the line will shrink or enlarge to compensate. If you don't like going into and out of dialogs, you can also accomplish this with TGTools Expand/Compress Spacing (for individual measures, not for MM rests). I'm on FinWin11 and I've got the full TGTools, and I forget what kind of TGTools Lite might be bundled in Fin12. In my version, Expand/Compress is mapped to Shift+ and Shift- (using the numeric keypad), so it's easy to select a measure and tap away until things look the way I want them. Aaron. On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 5:25 PM, pa...@mooremusic.org.uk pa...@mooremusic.org.uk wrote: Hello again, Many thanks Linda and David for your very quick responses. It was wonderfully encouraging to find your friendly messages already waiting when I got back to the computer after a break. I still remember what a relief it was to join the Finale List soon after first trying Finale (having never even used Windows before) and find so many helpful people out there. Linda, I can definitely relate to this! Then I left a gap over a year ago when i installed 2012. I couldn't find anything I was used to. A lot of things were better than before, but many--like changing the names of tools and putting them in a different menu--made me crazy, And there were other problems that even the Finale help site and other forums were of no use. I'm afraid to install 2014 for fear that the things I'm currently working on will be delayed by more changes. This forum has resulted in many, many hints and help, but there are still some elements that remain a mystery. That must be very, very frustrating. I hope there are a lot of Windows users here to guide you through the thicket of changes! That's a very good description. :) From: David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com 1. How can I increase the number of most recently closed items listed at the bottom of the File menu (default seems to be 4)? Edit menu, Preferences, then click on Open in the left-hand panel. On the right once you do that is an option to set the number of Recent Files listed in the File menu. Done! I'm slowly getting better at thinking of the possible ways to interact with tools/ menus/icons, etc. 2. How can I change the default font for e.g. the number above a multi-measure rest? I found a specific item for the default music font, but not the extensive list(s) I expected for all sorts of other elements. To change the default font for anything other than the music font you need to edit the default template, or you need to simply change the font for each document you create. Or you can set the fonts as you wish, then save the Library of all those changes to various items under Document Options and then load that Library into each new document you create. I often generate new files from old and collect the fonts etc. that way, but I may manage to try that out one of these months, thank you. I've saved libraries of e.g. expressions in the past. Just off now to sort out the multi-measure rest font, which will be a noticeable improvement in the readability of my latest parts. 3. I haven't found a way to respace a number of bars if e.g. I want to enlarge a multi-measure rest and then space the remaining bars in the line equally. I'm puzzled that it doesn't seem to be a possibility related to the menu that appears when I right click on one of the measure spacing handles. I'm sure I must be mis sing something. I think you may need to drag the barlines for each measure on those lines -- I don't know of a way to make all the measures on a system be equally spaced. I hope someone else may have found a way to do what you want. I'll be very disappointed if it's no longer possible. Finale will always change the bar lengths according to what is in each bar -- you wouldn't want a bar with only a single whole note to take up as much space as a bar with 16 16th notes would you? No, you're right. What I really meant was that I wanted them spaced equally appropriately. If I just enlarge the rest bar the one next to it is all squished up. Of course, if that's is the result you want, you can achieve that using a hidden layer full of whatever note value you want to determine the bar's width, making it visible when you do your spacing and then hiding it for printing after you've locked the layout. That's a useful reminder, thanks. I have done simlar things with hidden notes in the past. Best wishes Patsy -- Patsy Moore pa...@mooremusic.org.uk www.da-capo.org.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu
