Re: [Finale] Microtones
Kurt Gnos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am very interested in microtonal music. I have not tried this in finale, even as a user who works with Finale almost twenty years. If you are sucessfull in Finale, please tell me. I tried quarter tone music in Cubase, using two Grand vst instruments and tuning one a quarter tone lower. This works, but I would like to do better, using quarter tone accidentials. And how about other microtonal scales, third tones and other? I never found a good solution. I wrote my Enneakaidekaphonic Variations for two 19-note ET recorders by distinguishing in the notation between the sharps and flats that would be enharmonic equivalents in ET12. * For playback, I put non-printing expressions with pitch bend on each note. It sounds tedious, but went reasonably quickly with each expression on a metatool. * C C# Db D D# Eb E E# F F# Gb G G# Ab A A# Bb B B# If you want to work in ET31, you can add double flats and double sharps to give enough different pitch classes. I would want automatic application of the pitch bend before I tried that, and can't think how to do it. -- Ken Moore ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Microtones
It is much easier to use a non-standard key signature. While working in Finale, the output can be sent to a synthesizer external to Finale with a full-keyboard retuning, either set up on the synth directly or via a midi relay tuning program (I use InTun, freeware, in WinXP). When the Finale file is finished, the exported midi file can be processed with Scala (also Freeware) so that pitch bends are attached to each note; this new midi file can be reimported into Finale, thus skipping the work of manually attaching pitch bends. I have not been able to get Garritan to respond accurately or consistantly to pitch bend messages. I can send working examples of non-standard microtonal key signatures if requested. Daniel Wolf Ken Moore wrote: I wrote my Enneakaidekaphonic Variations for two 19-note ET recorders by distinguishing in the notation between the sharps and flats that would be enharmonic equivalents in ET12. * For playback, I put non-printing expressions with pitch bend on each note. It sounds tedious, but went reasonably quickly with each expression on a metatool. * C C# Db D D# Eb E E# F F# Gb G G# Ab A A# Bb B B# If you want to work in ET31, you can add double flats and double sharps to give enough different pitch classes. I would want automatic application of the pitch bend before I tried that, and can't think how to do it. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Microtones
I am very interested in microtonal music. I have not tried this in finale, even as a user who works with Finale almost twenty years. If you are sucessfull in Finale, please tell me. Hi Kurt, I am very interested in microtonal music too. For the moment, I do not have a clue about how to do this in Finale (I am still a newbie), but I will look into it and I will let you know everything I find out. On the other hand, tuning an instrument lower or higher cannot be too difficult (not that I looked into that yet either), perhaps it can be done in studio view. I will know more soon. For the rest, I finally managed to open the Manual (after three months!). I didn't download Adobe 8. I do not know what was wrong with it, or indeed, whether it will still open tomorrow. I am a musician, I do not know anything about computers. Best regards and wishes, Will Denayer - The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Microtones
At 07:46 PM 12/21/2006 +, Will Denayer wrote: I am very interested in microtonal music too. You and Kurt may want to research the list archives from this year. There was a very good thread about how to accomplish microtones in Finale, including playback. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Microtones
I am very interested in microtonal music. I have not tried this in finale, even as a user who works with Finale almost twenty years. If you are sucessfull in Finale, please tell me. I tried quarter tone music in Cubase, using two Grand vst instruments and tuning one a quarter tone lower. This works, but I would like to do better, using quarter tone accidentials. And how about other microtonal scales, third tones and other? I never found a good solution. Cheers Kurt At 19:19 18.12.2006, you wrote: the piece i am working on has massive microtonal glissandi, often arou dthe same pitches, so it would be (would have been) good for a C-score to better visualize this. Just being curious, if you write microtones, does Finale play them back? Is there a way to 'wrongly' tune an instrument, say a violin which has to play the notes as written but 2 comma's lower? Best regards, Will Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Microtones
the piece i am working on has massive microtonal glissandi, often arou dthe same pitches, so it would be (would have been) good for a C-score to better visualize this. Just being curious, if you write microtones, does Finale play them back? Is there a way to 'wrongly' tune an instrument, say a violin which has to play the notes as written but 2 comma's lower? Best regards, Will Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale