Re: [Finale] another simple (I hope!) question

2009-02-14 Thread dhbailey

Katherine Hoover wrote:
I generally print on legal paper, in order to eventually have pieces 
done on 9 x 12 paper at the printer.  This means I have to work with 
systems rather freely at times.  At the moment I'm doing a piece for two 
pianos, and need to get 3 systems on a page (3 groups of 4 staves.)  I  
cannot seem to move the second system at all, and those some others will 
move and some will not.  I took the time to try various things under the 
page layout tool, but I was not able to solve the problem.


Again for some reason this was not a problem in my old Finale 
program.  Also the movement I just finished I was able somehow to work 
with.  But it is patently clear that I don't really KNOW what works and 
what doesn't, and I'm wasting a lot of time messing around.


Any help would be MUCH appreciated.



Make sure that the option in Page Layout to evenly space all 
systems on the page is turned off -- that way you can move 
the systems wherever you want them up and down on the page. 
 With it turned on, the bottom system will always have it's 
bottom margin at the bottom margin of the page, and the top 
system will have its top margin at the top margin of the page.


I can understand your desire to get the music to print more 
easily on 9x12 paper, but you could create the music at a 
slightly smaller percentage on 8.5x11 paper and then simply 
zoom when you print to get the music to fit the 9x12 paper 
as you want.  That way the shape of the paper remains the 
same and what looks nice on the 8.5x11 paper will still look 
nice on the 9x12 paper.  I think the increase to set the 
zoom at is only something like 105% or so (I haven't done it 
in a while) and thus won't introduce any ugly artifacts 
which can occur when you do a larger percentage increase.


--
David H. Bailey
dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
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Re: [Finale] another simple (I hope!) question

2009-02-14 Thread Christopher Smith
Richard, I'm sure it was just a typo, but editing the system margins  
can only adjust the space between SYSTEMS, not staves (if she has  
more than one staff per system, which is certainly the case in a  
piece for two pianos.)


I suspect that her upper system margin is set high. This can be  
dragged down manually (it's the little box in the upper left corner  
of the system when Page Layout Tool is selected, and then she can  
drag the whole system higher.


Katherine, I don't know which version of Finale you are using, but  
all this is covered in the documentation. Check the Encyclopedia  
under Page Layout.


I would further endorse David Bailey's suggestion to create your  
drafts at 8.5x11 and zoom them up to 9x12 at print time. Any print  
shop can do this, and you preserve your hard-won and extremely  
important page layout. I often used to do this by saving as PDF  
(built into the Mac OS) and bringing a thumb drive with the PDFs on  
it to the print shop. (Now I have a large-format printer, so it isn't  
necessary any more.)


Christopher


On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Richard Yates wrote:

Open the file in Scroll View and make sure that there is minimal  
space above
the first staff. Select and drag all staves upwards in Staff Tool  
if you
need to. With Page Layout, edit the system margins to remove extra  
space

between staves.


-Original Message-
From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu]
On Behalf Of Katherine Hoover
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:22 PM
To: finalelist
Subject: [Finale] another simple (I hope!) question

I generally print on legal paper, in order to
eventually have pieces done on 9 x 12 paper at the printer.
This means I have to work with systems rather freely at times.
At the moment I'm doing a piece for two pianos, and need to
get 3 systems on a page (3 groups of 4
staves.)  I  cannot seem to move the second system at all, and
those some others will move and some will not.  I took the
time to try various things under the page layout tool, but I
was not able to solve the problem.

Again for some reason this was not a problem in my old
Finale program.  Also the movement I just finished I was able
somehow to work with.  But it is patently clear that I don't
really KNOW what works and what doesn't, and I'm wasting a lot
of time messing around.

Any help would be MUCH appreciated.

Thanks,
Katherine Hoover


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Re: [Finale] another simple (I hope!) question

2009-02-14 Thread JRB

In the Page Layout menu UNcheck avoid margin collision.

JB
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On Feb 13, 2009, at 6:21 PM, Katherine Hoover  
khoo...@papagenapress.com wrote:


   I generally print on legal paper, in order to eventually have  
pieces done on 9 x 12 paper at the printer.  This means I have to  
work with systems rather freely at times.  At the moment I'm doing a  
piece for two pianos, and need to get 3 systems on a page (3 groups  
of 4 staves.)  I  cannot seem to move the second system at all, and  
those some others will move and some will not.  I took the time to  
try various things under the page layout tool, but I was not able to  
solve the problem.


   Again for some reason this was not a problem in my old Finale  
program.  Also the movement I just finished I was able somehow to  
work with.  But it is patently clear that I don't really KNOW what  
works and what doesn't, and I'm wasting a lot of time messing around.


   Any help would be MUCH appreciated.

   Thanks,
   Katherine Hoover ___
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[Finale] another simple (I hope!) question

2009-02-13 Thread Katherine Hoover
	I generally print on legal paper, in order to eventually have pieces  
done on 9 x 12 paper at the printer.  This means I have to work with  
systems rather freely at times.  At the moment I'm doing a piece for  
two pianos, and need to get 3 systems on a page (3 groups of 4  
staves.)  I  cannot seem to move the second system at all, and those  
some others will move and some will not.  I took the time to try  
various things under the page layout tool, but I was not able to  
solve the problem.


	Again for some reason this was not a problem in my old Finale  
program.  Also the movement I just finished I was able somehow to  
work with.  But it is patently clear that I don't really KNOW what  
works and what doesn't, and I'm wasting a lot of time messing around.


Any help would be MUCH appreciated.

Thanks,
	Katherine Hoover 
  
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RE: [Finale] another simple (I hope!) question

2009-02-13 Thread Richard Yates
Open the file in Scroll View and make sure that there is minimal space above
the first staff. Select and drag all staves upwards in Staff Tool if you
need to. With Page Layout, edit the system margins to remove extra space
between staves.

-Original Message-
From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] 
On Behalf Of Katherine Hoover
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:22 PM
To: finalelist
Subject: [Finale] another simple (I hope!) question

   I generally print on legal paper, in order to 
eventually have pieces done on 9 x 12 paper at the printer.  
This means I have to work with systems rather freely at times. 
 At the moment I'm doing a piece for two pianos, and need to 
get 3 systems on a page (3 groups of 4
staves.)  I  cannot seem to move the second system at all, and 
those some others will move and some will not.  I took the 
time to try various things under the page layout tool, but I 
was not able to solve the problem.

   Again for some reason this was not a problem in my old 
Finale program.  Also the movement I just finished I was able 
somehow to work with.  But it is patently clear that I don't 
really KNOW what works and what doesn't, and I'm wasting a lot 
of time messing around.

   Any help would be MUCH appreciated.

   Thanks,
   Katherine Hoover 
   
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Re: [Finale] another simple (I hope!) question

2009-02-13 Thread Noel Stoutenburg

Katherine,

It would be helpful to know what version of Finale, and what platform 
(Windows or MAC) you are using.


ns
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