Re: [Finale] another simple (I hope!) question
Katherine Hoover wrote: I generally print on legal paper, in order to eventually have pieces done on 9 x 12 paper at the printer. This means I have to work with systems rather freely at times. At the moment I'm doing a piece for two pianos, and need to get 3 systems on a page (3 groups of 4 staves.) I cannot seem to move the second system at all, and those some others will move and some will not. I took the time to try various things under the page layout tool, but I was not able to solve the problem. Again for some reason this was not a problem in my old Finale program. Also the movement I just finished I was able somehow to work with. But it is patently clear that I don't really KNOW what works and what doesn't, and I'm wasting a lot of time messing around. Any help would be MUCH appreciated. Make sure that the option in Page Layout to evenly space all systems on the page is turned off -- that way you can move the systems wherever you want them up and down on the page. With it turned on, the bottom system will always have it's bottom margin at the bottom margin of the page, and the top system will have its top margin at the top margin of the page. I can understand your desire to get the music to print more easily on 9x12 paper, but you could create the music at a slightly smaller percentage on 8.5x11 paper and then simply zoom when you print to get the music to fit the 9x12 paper as you want. That way the shape of the paper remains the same and what looks nice on the 8.5x11 paper will still look nice on the 9x12 paper. I think the increase to set the zoom at is only something like 105% or so (I haven't done it in a while) and thus won't introduce any ugly artifacts which can occur when you do a larger percentage increase. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] another simple (I hope!) question
Richard, I'm sure it was just a typo, but editing the system margins can only adjust the space between SYSTEMS, not staves (if she has more than one staff per system, which is certainly the case in a piece for two pianos.) I suspect that her upper system margin is set high. This can be dragged down manually (it's the little box in the upper left corner of the system when Page Layout Tool is selected, and then she can drag the whole system higher. Katherine, I don't know which version of Finale you are using, but all this is covered in the documentation. Check the Encyclopedia under Page Layout. I would further endorse David Bailey's suggestion to create your drafts at 8.5x11 and zoom them up to 9x12 at print time. Any print shop can do this, and you preserve your hard-won and extremely important page layout. I often used to do this by saving as PDF (built into the Mac OS) and bringing a thumb drive with the PDFs on it to the print shop. (Now I have a large-format printer, so it isn't necessary any more.) Christopher On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Richard Yates wrote: Open the file in Scroll View and make sure that there is minimal space above the first staff. Select and drag all staves upwards in Staff Tool if you need to. With Page Layout, edit the system margins to remove extra space between staves. -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Katherine Hoover Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:22 PM To: finalelist Subject: [Finale] another simple (I hope!) question I generally print on legal paper, in order to eventually have pieces done on 9 x 12 paper at the printer. This means I have to work with systems rather freely at times. At the moment I'm doing a piece for two pianos, and need to get 3 systems on a page (3 groups of 4 staves.) I cannot seem to move the second system at all, and those some others will move and some will not. I took the time to try various things under the page layout tool, but I was not able to solve the problem. Again for some reason this was not a problem in my old Finale program. Also the movement I just finished I was able somehow to work with. But it is patently clear that I don't really KNOW what works and what doesn't, and I'm wasting a lot of time messing around. Any help would be MUCH appreciated. Thanks, Katherine Hoover ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] another simple (I hope!) question
In the Page Layout menu UNcheck avoid margin collision. JB Sent from my iPhone using my thumbs w/out a spellchecker On Feb 13, 2009, at 6:21 PM, Katherine Hoover khoo...@papagenapress.com wrote: I generally print on legal paper, in order to eventually have pieces done on 9 x 12 paper at the printer. This means I have to work with systems rather freely at times. At the moment I'm doing a piece for two pianos, and need to get 3 systems on a page (3 groups of 4 staves.) I cannot seem to move the second system at all, and those some others will move and some will not. I took the time to try various things under the page layout tool, but I was not able to solve the problem. Again for some reason this was not a problem in my old Finale program. Also the movement I just finished I was able somehow to work with. But it is patently clear that I don't really KNOW what works and what doesn't, and I'm wasting a lot of time messing around. Any help would be MUCH appreciated. Thanks, Katherine Hoover ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] another simple (I hope!) question
Open the file in Scroll View and make sure that there is minimal space above the first staff. Select and drag all staves upwards in Staff Tool if you need to. With Page Layout, edit the system margins to remove extra space between staves. -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Katherine Hoover Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:22 PM To: finalelist Subject: [Finale] another simple (I hope!) question I generally print on legal paper, in order to eventually have pieces done on 9 x 12 paper at the printer. This means I have to work with systems rather freely at times. At the moment I'm doing a piece for two pianos, and need to get 3 systems on a page (3 groups of 4 staves.) I cannot seem to move the second system at all, and those some others will move and some will not. I took the time to try various things under the page layout tool, but I was not able to solve the problem. Again for some reason this was not a problem in my old Finale program. Also the movement I just finished I was able somehow to work with. But it is patently clear that I don't really KNOW what works and what doesn't, and I'm wasting a lot of time messing around. Any help would be MUCH appreciated. Thanks, Katherine Hoover ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] another simple (I hope!) question
Katherine, It would be helpful to know what version of Finale, and what platform (Windows or MAC) you are using. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale