Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance
I'll have another look at it, but my hopes are _very_ low, as I have actually spent hours with the uploader and the manual, without any success. The problem is also that there are several versions of the uploader around, but none comes from Oxsemi direct. I'll let you know what I find. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that the uploader will flash a blank chip Grab the Manual (link is below) and check out chapter six: Uploading a Binary Image. (I've left the link below in this message) It talks about how to upload a binary image depending on the state of the chipthere is one state mentioned where the chip is blank and needs configuration info and the binary image, and another state mentioned where the configuration is there but there is no binary image...there are two other states mentioned as well but I don't think they apply to your situation. http://www.oxsemi.co.uk/cgi-bin/general/home.cgi (look near the bottom - Oxsemi Uploader User Guide UG-0004 -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance
Well, I already had the uploader you pointed me to. Unfortunately this will not do. It can update firmware, but it won't work if the firmware chip is blank, as it seems to be here. I am not really sure how this happened but the bridge is recognized by the uploaders, but they simply cannot flash it. The second link is only a manual, right? I have searched all over OXSemi's site for some firmware software but couldn't find any. Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, since you are up for a gamble...it's the first link on the list with the Manual right below. This is a firmware uploader for the 922 chipset but it works for the 911 chipset too (my hunch is that the latter is the original firmware for your case ) http://www.newmotiontech.com/new/download/index.htm There is further documentation here: http://www.oxsemi.co.uk/cgi-bin/general/home.cgi (look near the bottom - Oxsemi Uploader User Guide UG-0004 Let me know how it goes!! I'm curious! Best, Karen -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance
Well, I already had the uploader you pointed me to. Unfortunately this will not do. It can update firmware, but it won't work if the firmware chip is blank, as it seems to be here. I am not really sure how this happened but the bridge is recognized by the uploaders, but they simply cannot flash it. Hi Johannes, I believe that the uploader will flash a blank chip Grab the Manual (link is below) and check out chapter six: Uploading a Binary Image. (I've left the link below in this message) It talks about how to upload a binary image depending on the state of the chipthere is one state mentioned where the chip is blank and needs configuration info and the binary image, and another state mentioned where the configuration is there but there is no binary image...there are two other states mentioned as well but I don't think they apply to your situation. http://www.oxsemi.co.uk/cgi-bin/general/home.cgi (look near the bottom - Oxsemi Uploader User Guide UG-0004 Let me know what happens! Best, Karen -- Karen Guthery [EMAIL PROTECTED] ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance
My first choice for defragging a drive is Norton Speed Disk. I own DiskWarrior and TechTool Pro, but for defragging...you can't beat Speed Disk. On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Thing is, I don't actually have a problem. The reason I need a disk utility is that I want a tool to defragment, especially my Audio drive. This seems to be a good time to get a utility which will also help me should I get a problem in the future. It seems that most people recommend DiskWarrior. If I don't hear anything negative about it I will probably buy it. Johannes Simon Troup wrote: I am in fo a new Disk Maintenance software. As far as I can see there are basically two choices: There's also Drive 10 http://www.micromat.com/drive_10/drive_10_introduction.html It's best to own as many Disk Utils as you can afford. In my experience there is no best utility. I've encountered problems that would make Norton Utils crash, but DiskWarrior would fix, and problems that neither Norton nor DiskWarrior could address, but Drive 10 fixed with ease. It's a lottery. I bought them both, and Drive 10 too. That may sound like an extravagance, but I collected them one at a time - as each prior purchase failed to repair the next problem! Simon Troup ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance
Hi Johannas and Simon, You have inspired me to do some homework for the day when speed disk goes away :-) I found this: http://www.speedtools.com/STUS.shtml See what you think...expecially the Disk Defrag utility. I haven't used this nor do I know anyone who has, but it looks interesting. Best, Karen Ah. I guess I will after all be looking at techtool, or Drive10 (which seems to be basically TechTool, but without the Hardware tests, which I am not sure I will need anyway). Thanks for telling me this in time. I guess this is another reason why people keep several of these utilities. As I said, so far Apple's Disk Utility has cured all my problems in OS X, but one never knows (I had numerous problems in the old OS 9 days, and Norton did save my life a few times then). It seems to me that OS X is a lot safer (probably mostly because it doesn't let you install things all that easily, and keeps Administrators and Users apart), but then, things do go wrong. Thanks for all the input! Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No disk warrior doesn't defrag. -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Karen Guthery [EMAIL PROTECTED] ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance
Yes, I forgot about these. I actually own a copy of HDSpeedTools for MacOS 9. Thing is, I am a little anoyed about their update policy. When I bought the product it said Free Updates for Live just as it does now. Only HDSpeedTools for OS X are not actually the same product. So I never actually got any major product updates for free. Which sort of defeats the point of the free update policy. Not sure what to think of them otherwise. They cost more than Drive10, but I am not sure whether they really do any more. Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Johannas and Simon, You have inspired me to do some homework for the day when speed disk goes away :-) I found this: http://www.speedtools.com/STUS.shtml See what you think...expecially the Disk Defrag utility. I haven't used this nor do I know anyone who has, but it looks interesting. Best, Karen -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance
On a related subject: If anyone knows how to re-flash an Oxford Firewire enclosure, I'd like to know. I seem to have destroyed one by accident (by flashing the wrong firmware I guess), and there doesn't seem to be a way to get it back. Annoying. I am open for any experiment, as I have since bought a (non-Oxford) replacement, and this casing is now completely useless (not recognized). Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance
On a related subject: If anyone knows how to re-flash an Oxford Firewire enclosure, I'd like to know. I seem to have destroyed one by accident (by flashing the wrong firmware I guess), and there doesn't seem to be a way to get it back. Annoying. I am open for any experiment, as I have since bought a (non-Oxford) replacement, and this casing is now completely useless (not recognized). Well, since you are up for a gamble...it's the first link on the list with the Manual right below. This is a firmware uploader for the 922 chipset but it works for the 911 chipset too (my hunch is that the latter is the original firmware for your case ) http://www.newmotiontech.com/new/download/index.htm There is further documentation here: http://www.oxsemi.co.uk/cgi-bin/general/home.cgi (look near the bottom - Oxsemi Uploader User Guide UG-0004 Let me know how it goes!! I'm curious! Best, Karen -- Karen Guthery [EMAIL PROTECTED] ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance
At 11:39 AM +0200 10/22/04, Johannes Gebauer wrote: DiskWarrior Techtool Pro Which one would you recommend? My users group members generally suggest Disk Warrior, and also suggest using Apple's tools first, again, generally. http://planetmug.org Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance
Johannes, Is a well know fact that the best way to defragment a disk is to copy all contents to another one (something that you should have done anyway), erase the disk and copy back the information. And the price is fair ;) Javier Ruiz. Thing is, I don't actually have a problem. The reason I need a disk utility is that I want a tool to defragment, especially my Audio drive. This seems to be a good time to get a utility which will also help me should I get a problem in the future. It seems that most people recommend DiskWarrior. If I don't hear anything negative about it I will probably buy it. Johannes Simon Troup wrote: I am in fo a new Disk Maintenance software. As far as I can see there are basically two choices: There's also Drive 10 http://www.micromat.com/drive_10/drive_10_introduction.html It's best to own as many Disk Utils as you can afford. In my experience there is no best utility. I've encountered problems that would make Norton Utils crash, but DiskWarrior would fix, and problems that neither Norton nor DiskWarrior could address, but Drive 10 fixed with ease. It's a lottery. I bought them both, and Drive 10 too. That may sound like an extravagance, but I collected them one at a time - as each prior purchase failed to repair the next problem! Simon Troup ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance
Sure, only sometimes that is not an option. And since it seems it is a good idea to actually own a DiskRepair Utility I am quite happy to buy one. Also, I have been told, and at least partly believe this, that when you actually use a defragging utility you can avoid certain fragmentation more effectively than just by copying. Simply because these utilities can make a decision on what to put where, rather than just doing it file by file. Johannes Javier Ruiz wrote: Johannes, Is a well know fact that the best way to defragment a disk is to copy all contents to another one (something that you should have done anyway), erase the disk and copy back the information. And the price is fair ;) Javier Ruiz. Thing is, I don't actually have a problem. The reason I need a disk utility is that I want a tool to defragment, especially my Audio drive. This seems to be a good time to get a utility which will also help me should I get a problem in the future. It seems that most people recommend DiskWarrior. If I don't hear anything negative about it I will probably buy it. Johannes Simon Troup wrote: I am in fo a new Disk Maintenance software. As far as I can see there are basically two choices: There's also Drive 10 http://www.micromat.com/drive_10/drive_10_introduction.html It's best to own as many Disk Utils as you can afford. In my experience there is no best utility. I've encountered problems that would make Norton Utils crash, but DiskWarrior would fix, and problems that neither Norton nor DiskWarrior could address, but Drive 10 fixed with ease. It's a lottery. I bought them both, and Drive 10 too. That may sound like an extravagance, but I collected them one at a time - as each prior purchase failed to repair the next problem! Simon Troup ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance
Things have changed *a lot* with OSX - are you sure you need to defragment? Please see the following article ... http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25668 Regards SImon Troup Also, I have been told, and at least partly believe this, that when you actually use a defragging utility you can avoid certain fragmentation more effectively than just by copying. Simply because these utilities can make a decision on what to put where, rather than just doing it file by file. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance
Simon Troup wrote: Things have changed *a lot* with OSX - are you sure you need to defragment? Please see the following article ... http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25668 It is nonsense to believe Apple one minute that OS X eliminates all needs for defragmentation. It is true to a certain extend that MacOS X has better built-in file maintenance than OS 9, and it does some rudimentary defragmentation. For many people this will be just fine. However, for Audio partitions Apple's automatic defragging can actually be counter-productive, as I have recently experienced. There are very good reasons to defrag in OS X, especially with Audio partitions, especially if you actually record to them. If you want to read some discussions of why this is the forums at www.osxaudio.com are a good place. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance
It is nonsense to believe Apple one minute that OS X eliminates all needs for defragmentation. It is true to a certain extend that MacOS X has better built-in file maintenance than OS 9, and it does some rudimentary defragmentation. For many people this will be just fine. It's not nonsense - they haven't claimed any such thing. I think it's summed up very well in the knowledgebase article, they don't make out that they have cured defragmentation completely, and mention problems that can occur when you are writing really large files or are approaching disk capacity. There are however, as I'm sure you're aware, many people who are routinely (and needlessly) defragmenting their OSX drives. I would suggest that unless people fit into one of the special categories (as you clearly do, granted!) they are very unlikely to suffer from the kind of problems they had with OS9 and earlier - in fact, routine defragmentation is asking for trouble. Simon Troup ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance
Hi Johannes, I agree. I think that Disk Warrior is the best one if you are going to only choose one. But they all do different things as Simon mentioned. So if you ever get into a spot where Disk Warrior isn't fixing the problem you can try another at that time. I usually try in this order Disk Warrior, then Techtool Pro then Norton. I'm not familiar with Drive 10 personally but I know people that really like it and know it is a good program. -K It seems that most people recommend DiskWarrior. If I don't hear anything negative about it I will probably buy it. -- Karen Guthery [EMAIL PROTECTED] ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance
Well, you are certainly the first person I know who even considers Norton any more. I can't speak from my own experience (I last used Norton in the old OS 9 days) but I certainly know a lot of people for whom Norton has actually created more problems than it ever solved, and they all warn from letting it loose on any of your volumes. I certainly wouldn't. Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Johannes, I agree. I think that Disk Warrior is the best one if you are going to only choose one. But they all do different things as Simon mentioned. So if you ever get into a spot where Disk Warrior isn't fixing the problem you can try another at that time. I usually try in this order Disk Warrior, then Techtool Pro then Norton. I'm not familiar with Drive 10 personally but I know people that really like it and know it is a good program. -K It seems that most people recommend DiskWarrior. If I don't hear anything negative about it I will probably buy it. -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Mac Disk Maintenance
I wouldn't touch it any more either, it's most defineately end of line now ... http://www.macnn.com/news/24213 ... the last version had a terrible reputation. It did some damage to my system, which was why I had to go out and get Drive 10. Does DiskWarrior actually defragment? I was under the impression it was a specialist directory rebuilding and optimising tool, not a defragger - unless they've built that in since last time I used it. Simon Troup Well, you are certainly the first person I know who even considers Norton any more. I can't speak from my own experience (I last used Norton in the old OS 9 days) but I certainly know a lot of people for whom Norton has actually created more problems than it ever solved, and they all warn from letting it loose on any of your volumes. I certainly wouldn't. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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I wouldn't touch it any more either, it's most defineately end of line now ... http://www.macnn.com/news/24213 Yes, this will all be moot as soon as Tiger is here anyway...:-( No more Norton. ... the last version had a terrible reputation. It did some damage to my system, which was why I had to go out and get Drive 10. Does DiskWarrior actually defragment? I was under the impression it was a specialist directory rebuilding and optimising tool , not a defragger - unless they've built that in since last time I used it. No disk warrior doesn't defrag. (But it solves many of the problems that I have come across :-) ) That's actually why I include Norton (specifically speed disk) in my list. Again, each program is useful for different reasons. (BTW I realized that I took for granted that one would first run Apple Disk Utility when trying to solve a problem...then proceed to the others...oops!) I believe Norton got a bad rep because version 8.0 came out before Panther and then caused problems when used with Panther. Then, there were still glitches in version 8.01 that required a terminal command to straighten it out. The last version is 8.02 which works in Panther and it useful in defragging when/if necessary. I think it works rather well. The 8.02 disk is available from Norton, or if you have 8.0 you can install it on a firewire drive and then update to 8.02. It should be run from the CD or from a firewire drive...not actually installed on your main drive. There are however, as I'm sure you're aware, many people who are routinely (and needlessly) defragmenting their OSX drives. I would suggest that unless people fit into one of the special categories (as you clearly do, granted!) they are very unlikely to suffer from the kind of problems they had with OS9 and earlier - in fact, routine defragmentation is asking for trouble. I completely agree with you Simon. I don't think it is wise or necessary to routinely defrag. In most cases it isn't necessary. But as you and Johannas pointed out there are can be problems with larger files that are fragmented in several places (as can happen in audio/video) (I think I read somewhere larger than 20MB and fragmented in more than 7 places) The apple OS defrag doesn't usually fix this. IMHO there is a benefit to defragmenting in this case. And I also think you are right Johannes, it doesn't necessarily have to do with how full the drive is. Simon Troup Well, you are certainly the first person I know who even considers Norton any more. I can't speak from my own experience (I last used Norton in the old OS 9 days) but I certainly know a lot of people for whom Norton has actually created more problems than it ever solved, and they all warn from letting it loose on any of your volumes. I certainly wouldn't. I try not to throw the baby out with that bath waterNorton still has it's uses IMHO. :-) Have a good weekend! -K -- Karen Guthery [EMAIL PROTECTED] ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
