Re: [Fink-beginners] Fink install saga

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jul 19, 2017, at 01:52, Stanley Okoro  wrote:
> 
> Dear Alex,
> After several try I'm still having issues with the compiling phase.
> Attached is the system log.
> Thanks
>  
>  
> Failed: phase compiling: saga-4.0.1-3 failed
> Before reporting any errors, please run "fink selfupdate" and try again.
> If you continue to have issues, please check to see if the FAQ on Fink's
> website solves the problem.  If not, ask on one (not both, please) of
> these mailing lists:
> The Fink Users List 
> The Fink Beginners List ,
> with a carbon copy to the maintainer:
> BABA Yoshihiko 
> Note that this is preferable to emailing just the maintainer directly,
> since most fink package maintainers do not have access to all possible
> hardware and software configurations.
> Please try to include the complete error message in your report.  This
> generally consists of a compiler line starting with e.g. "gcc" or "g++"
> followed by the actual error output from the compiler.
> Also include the following system information:
> Package manager version: 0.41.1
> Distribution version: selfupdate-rsync Wed Jul 19 01:32:44 2017, 10.12, x86_64
> Trees: local/main stable/main
> Xcode.app: 8.3.3
> Xcode command-line tools: 8.3.2.0.1.1492020469
> Max. Fink build jobs:  1
>  
> Best,
> Stanley
> --
> Stanley Uchenna Okoro
> CEN Center for Earth System Research and Sustainability
> Institute of Geography
> University of Hamburg
> Bundesstraße 55
> 20146 Hamburg
> Tel.: +49 40 42838-4903
> E-Mail: stanley.ok...@uni-hamburg.de
> https://www.geo.uni-hamburg.de/geographie/mitarbeiterverzeichnis/okoro.html
>  
>  


That isn’t of any use whatsoever.  There is nothing about your compile attempt 
logged there.  You can capture log files for your Fink builds using the “-l” 
flag, e.g. “fink -l build saga”.  These get stored in the /tmp directory.

Also, if you read the output again, the package which actually failed this time 
is saga, and I have no responsibility for that package.  I am therefore cc’ing 
a Fink mailing list and the saga maintainer.

—akh

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Re: [Fink-beginners] cannot install / update after last selfupdate.

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 23, 2017, at 09:57, Thomas Scharkowski  
> wrote:
> 
>  Original-Nachricht 
>>> On Jun 23, 2017, at 09:47, Thomas Scharkowski  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
> 
>> 
> I have tried all suggestions without success. Is it time to give up?
> 
 Unfortunately, it may be.  I think we’ve been able to rule out anything 
 internal to the Fink distribution.  Maybe a final check on the permissions?
 Fionna-4:~ hansen$ ls -ld / /sw/ /sw/src
 drwxr-xr-x  41 root wheel  1462 Jun 22 17:10 /
 drwxr-xr-x  15 root wheel   510 Nov  3  2016 /sw/
 drwxr-xr-x 393 root wheel 13362 Jun 22 13:24 /sw/src
>>> 
>>> ~ thomas$ ls -ld / /sw/ /sw/src
>>> drwxr-xr-x69 root  wheel   2414 23 Jun 18:31 /
>>> drwxr-xr-x@   13 root  wheel442 24 Feb  2016 /sw/
>>> drwxr-xr-x  1155 root  wheel  39270 23 Jun 07:54 /sw/src
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> Ah, I was missing the “@“ because I was using gnu ls from coreutils.
>> $ /bin/ls -a -l -@ /sw
>> total 0
>> drwxr-xr-x@   15 rootwheel510 Nov  3  2016 .
>>  com.apple.metadata:_kTimeMachineNewestSnapshot 50
>>  com.apple.metadata:_kTimeMachineOldestSnapshot 50
>> drwxr-xr-x41 rootwheel   1462 Jun 22 17:10 ..
>> drwxr-xr-x18 rootwheel612 Sep 20  2016 Applications
>> drwxr-xr-x 4 rootwheel136 Nov 14  2015 Library
>> drwxr-xr-x  2895 rootwheel  98430 Jun 22 13:22 bin
>> drwxr-xr-x70 rootwheel   2380 Jun 22 13:24 etc
>> drwxr-xr-x21 hansen  wheel714 Jun 22 13:22 fink
>> drwxr-xr-x20 hansen  wheel680 Nov  3  2016 fink.old
>> drwxr-xr-x   735 rootwheel  24990 Jun 19 08:19 include
>> drwxr-xr-x  1836 rootwheel  62424 Jun 21 14:54 lib
>> drwxr-xr-x26 rootwheel884 May  3 14:33 opt
>> drwxr-xr-x61 rootwheel   2074 Jun 22 13:22 sbin
>> drwxr-xr-x   198 rootwheel   6732 Jun 20 13:30 share
>> drwxr-xr-x   393 rootwheel  13362 Jun 22 13:24 src
>> drwxr-xr-x18 rootwheel612 May  3 14:33 var
> thomas$ /bin/ls -a -l -@ /sw
> total 0
> drwxr-xr-x@   13 root  wheel442 24 Feb  2016 .
>   com.apple.metadata:_kTimeMachineNewestSnapshot 50
>   com.apple.metadata:_kTimeMachineOldestSnapshot 50
> drwxr-xr-x69 root  wheel   2414 23 Jun 18:31 ..
> drwxr-xr-x 3 root  admin102 29 Mär  2016 Applications
> drwxr-xr-x  1618 root  admin  55012 23 Jun 18:48 bin
> drwxr-xr-x41 root  wheel   1394 23 Jun 18:48 etc
> drwxr-xr-x12 root  wheel408 23 Jun 18:43 fink
> drwxr-xr-x   473 root  admin  16082 23 Jun 18:43 include
> drwxr-xr-x  1129 root  admin  38386 23 Jun 18:48 lib
> drwxr-xr-x 7 root  admin238 17 Jun 17:25 opt
> drwxr-xr-x36 root  admin   1224 23 Jun 17:52 sbin
> drwxr-xr-x88 root  admin   2992 23 Jun 18:48 share
> drwxr-xr-x  1155 root  wheel  39270 23 Jun 07:54 src
> drwxr-xr-x10 root  wheel340 24 Feb  2016 var
> 

It looks similar.  I’m out of ideas :-( .


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Re: [Fink-beginners] cannot install / update after last selfupdate.

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 23, 2017, at 09:47, Thomas Scharkowski  
> wrote:
> 
>>> 



>>> I have tried all suggestions without success. Is it time to give up?
>>> 
>> Unfortunately, it may be.  I think we’ve been able to rule out anything 
>> internal to the Fink distribution.  Maybe a final check on the permissions?
>> Fionna-4:~ hansen$ ls -ld / /sw/ /sw/src
>> drwxr-xr-x  41 root wheel  1462 Jun 22 17:10 /
>> drwxr-xr-x  15 root wheel   510 Nov  3  2016 /sw/
>> drwxr-xr-x 393 root wheel 13362 Jun 22 13:24 /sw/src
> 
> ~ thomas$ ls -ld / /sw/ /sw/src
> drwxr-xr-x69 root  wheel   2414 23 Jun 18:31 /
> drwxr-xr-x@   13 root  wheel442 24 Feb  2016 /sw/
> drwxr-xr-x  1155 root  wheel  39270 23 Jun 07:54 /sw/src
> 
> 
> 

Ah, I was missing the “@“ because I was using gnu ls from coreutils.  

$ /bin/ls -a -l -@ /sw
total 0
drwxr-xr-x@   15 rootwheel510 Nov  3  2016 .
com.apple.metadata:_kTimeMachineNewestSnapshot 50 
com.apple.metadata:_kTimeMachineOldestSnapshot 50 
drwxr-xr-x41 rootwheel   1462 Jun 22 17:10 ..
drwxr-xr-x18 rootwheel612 Sep 20  2016 Applications
drwxr-xr-x 4 rootwheel136 Nov 14  2015 Library
drwxr-xr-x  2895 rootwheel  98430 Jun 22 13:22 bin
drwxr-xr-x70 rootwheel   2380 Jun 22 13:24 etc
drwxr-xr-x21 hansen  wheel714 Jun 22 13:22 fink
drwxr-xr-x20 hansen  wheel680 Nov  3  2016 fink.old
drwxr-xr-x   735 rootwheel  24990 Jun 19 08:19 include
drwxr-xr-x  1836 rootwheel  62424 Jun 21 14:54 lib
drwxr-xr-x26 rootwheel884 May  3 14:33 opt
drwxr-xr-x61 rootwheel   2074 Jun 22 13:22 sbin
drwxr-xr-x   198 rootwheel   6732 Jun 20 13:30 share
drwxr-xr-x   393 rootwheel  13362 Jun 22 13:24 src
drwxr-xr-x18 rootwheel612 May  3 14:33 var


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Re: [Fink-beginners] cannot install / update after last selfupdate.

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 23, 2017, at 09:28, Thomas Scharkowski  
> wrote:
> 
>  Original-Nachricht 
>>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 23:22, David Fass  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have 2 'stupid' ideas to propose, since this doesn't seem to be an 
>>> obvious fix.
>>> 
>>> First one:
>>> Use sudo or su and move /sw to something like /sw2 to keep it safe
>>> and then reinstall fink and selfupdate it.
>>> Perhaps, maybe, something went wrong in the process before and it got 
>>> corrupted...
>>> At least this way you can test whether this is a Fink error or something 
>>> more local.
>>> 
>>> I know, when I was installing Fink, I had to replace Apple's tar with a 
>>> different version of tar just to get it to work…
>>> 
>> We generally don’t recommend replacing anything in the system area.
>>> Second one:
>>> A tad more drastic is to create a new user and reinstall fink.
>>> 
>>> I'm not a Fink expert, but, what can it hurt to try my ideas..
>>> 
>> I’ve got a quick idea you might try first.
>> Try using “fink reinstall tar dpkg” to reinstall tar and dpkg from their 
>> archives on your system, if present, and then try another build.  That could 
>> _potentially_ fix the issue if it so happens that a file has become 
>> corrupted. It might also give us an additional data point if you get a 
>> similar failure.
>> You might also go ahead and try adding a user account without doing anything 
>> to your Fink tree yet,  and then log in and run /sw/bin/pathsetup.sh on that 
>> account.  I don’t have high hopes for this, since almost everything that 
>> Fink does is run either as root or as the fink-bld unprivileged user, but 
>> it’s a relatively quick thing to try.
>> If you do go with the archive and reinstall option, and it finishes 
>> successfully, and the selfupdate process doesn’t actually update any 
>> packages (unlikely), then try to install a package.  If that doesn’t work, 
>> or if you aren’t able to do the install,  then the issue is probably 
>> somewhere in your system area.
> 
> I have tried all suggestions without success. Is it time to give up?
> 

Unfortunately, it may be.  I think we’ve been able to rule out anything 
internal to the Fink distribution.  Maybe a final check on the permissions?

Fionna-4:~ hansen$ ls -ld / /sw/ /sw/src 
drwxr-xr-x  41 root wheel  1462 Jun 22 17:10 /
drwxr-xr-x  15 root wheel   510 Nov  3  2016 /sw/
drwxr-xr-x 393 root wheel 13362 Jun 22 13:24 /sw/src





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Re: [Fink-beginners] cannot install / update after last selfupdate.

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 22, 2017, at 23:22, David Fass  wrote:
> 
> I have 2 'stupid' ideas to propose, since this doesn't seem to be an obvious 
> fix.
> 
> First one:
> Use sudo or su and move /sw to something like /sw2 to keep it safe
> and then reinstall fink and selfupdate it.
> Perhaps, maybe, something went wrong in the process before and it got 
> corrupted...
> At least this way you can test whether this is a Fink error or something more 
> local.
> 
> I know, when I was installing Fink, I had to replace Apple's tar with a 
> different version of tar just to get it to work…
> 

We generally don’t recommend replacing anything in the system area.  

> Second one:
> A tad more drastic is to create a new user and reinstall fink.
> 
> I'm not a Fink expert, but, what can it hurt to try my ideas..  
> 

I’ve got a quick idea you might try first.

Try using “fink reinstall tar dpkg” to reinstall tar and dpkg from their 
archives on your system, if present, and then try another build.  That could 
_potentially_ fix the issue if it so happens that a file has become corrupted.  
It might also give us an additional data point if you get a similar failure. 

You might also go ahead and try adding a user account without doing anything to 
your Fink tree yet,  and then log in and run /sw/bin/pathsetup.sh on that 
account.  I don’t have high hopes for this, since almost everything that Fink 
does is run either as root or as the fink-bld unprivileged user, but it’s a 
relatively quick thing to try.

If you do go with the archive and reinstall option, and it finishes 
successfully, and the selfupdate process doesn’t actually update any packages 
(unlikely), then try to install a package.  If that doesn’t work, or if you 
aren’t able to do the install,  then the issue is probably somewhere in your 
system area.
-- 
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Fink User Liaison


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Re: [Fink-beginners] cannot install / update after last selfupdate.

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 22, 2017, at 13:13, Thomas Scharkowski  
> wrote:
> 
>  Original-Nachricht 
>>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 12:43, Thomas Scharkowski  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Original-Nachricht 
> On Jun 21, 2017, at 23:15, Thomas Scharkowski  
> wrote:
> 
>  Original-Nachricht 
>>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 22:41, Thomas Scharkowski 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
> 
>> 
 How about " ls -lR 
 /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1 "?  
 (lowercase “l”), so that we can verify the file sizes ?
>>> $ ls -lR /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1
>>> total 0
>>> drwxr-xr-x  4 root  wheel  136 19 Jun 13:22 DEBIAN
>>> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 sw
>>> 
>>> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/DEBIAN:
>>> total 32
>>> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  739 19 Jun 13:22 control
>>> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  545 19 Jun 13:22 prerm
>>> 
>>> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw:
>>> total 0
>>> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 var
>>> 
>>> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var:
>>> total 0
>>> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 run
>>> 
>>> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var/run:
>>> total 0
>>> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 fink
>>> 
>>> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var/run/fink:
>>> total 0
>>> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 buildlock
>>> 
>>> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var/run/fink/buildlock:
>>> total 16
>>> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  5 19 Jun 13:22 libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1.pid
>> Those look reasonable to me.  Is there anything out of the ordinary 
>> about your setup, like having /sw on a symlinked external volume?
> No, /sw is at its usual place on my only HD "Macintosh HD".
> 
> 
 Ah.  We’ve historically had issues with Fink on external drives or network 
 shares, and their behavior can change via mount options, so I figured that 
 was something to look for.
 What happens if you run the command manually at a shell prompt:
 $ sudo dpkg-deb -b 
 /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1 
 /sw/src/fink.build
 ?
 Do you get the same error?
>>> Yes, the same error.
>>> 
>>> Thomas
>>> 
>>> 
>> That restricts the problem a bit, then.  Since dpkg-deb uses tar to generate 
>> the .deb archive, let’s get some information about that from the following 
>> commands:
>> fink dumpinfo -ePATH libsamplerate0
>> type -a tar
> 
> $ fink dumpinfo -ePATH libsamplerate0
> 
> type -a tar
> Information about 10197 packages read in 10 seconds.
> PATH=/sw/var/lib/fink/path-prefix-libcxx:/sw/var/lib/fink/path-prefix-clang:/sw/lib/perl5/ExtUtils:/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/opt/X11/bin
> iMac:~ thomas$
> iMac:~ thomas$ type -a tar
> tar is /sw/bin/tar
> tar is /usr/bin/tar
> 

Hmm.  That looks fine.  I’m running out of ideas, unfortunately.  

Maybe try using “fink configure” and change the build directory, to e.g. 
finktest.build:


Which directory (absolute pathname) should Fink use to build packages? (If you
don't know what this means, it is safe to leave it at its default.) [] 
/sw/src/finktest.build


Then see if that changes the result.


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Re: [Fink-beginners] cannot install / update after last selfupdate.

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 22, 2017, at 12:43, Thomas Scharkowski  
> wrote:
> 
>  Original-Nachricht 
>>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 23:15, Thomas Scharkowski  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Original-Nachricht 
> On Jun 20, 2017, at 22:41, Thomas Scharkowski  
> wrote:
> 
>>> 
 
>> How about " ls -lR 
>> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1 "?  
>> (lowercase “l”), so that we can verify the file sizes ?
> $ ls -lR /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1
> total 0
> drwxr-xr-x  4 root  wheel  136 19 Jun 13:22 DEBIAN
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 sw
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/DEBIAN:
> total 32
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  739 19 Jun 13:22 control
> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  545 19 Jun 13:22 prerm
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw:
> total 0
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 var
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var:
> total 0
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 run
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var/run:
> total 0
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 fink
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var/run/fink:
> total 0
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 buildlock
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var/run/fink/buildlock:
> total 16
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  5 19 Jun 13:22 libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1.pid
 Those look reasonable to me.  Is there anything out of the ordinary about 
 your setup, like having /sw on a symlinked external volume?
>>> No, /sw is at its usual place on my only HD "Macintosh HD".
>>> 
>>> 
>> Ah.  We’ve historically had issues with Fink on external drives or network 
>> shares, and their behavior can change via mount options, so I figured that 
>> was something to look for.
>> What happens if you run the command manually at a shell prompt:
>> $ sudo dpkg-deb -b 
>> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1 
>> /sw/src/fink.build
>> ?
>> Do you get the same error?
> Yes, the same error.
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 

That restricts the problem a bit, then.  Since dpkg-deb uses tar to generate 
the .deb archive, let’s get some information about that from the following 
commands:

fink dumpinfo -ePATH libsamplerate0

type -a tar




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Re: [Fink-beginners] cannot install / update after last selfupdate.

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 21, 2017, at 23:15, Thomas Scharkowski  
> wrote:
> 
>  Original-Nachricht 
>>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 22:41, Thomas Scharkowski  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>> How about " ls -lR 
>>>> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1 "?  
>>>> (lowercase “l”), so that we can verify the file sizes ?
>>> $ ls -lR /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1
>>> total 0
>>> drwxr-xr-x  4 root  wheel  136 19 Jun 13:22 DEBIAN
>>> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 sw
>>> 
>>> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/DEBIAN:
>>> total 32
>>> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  739 19 Jun 13:22 control
>>> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  545 19 Jun 13:22 prerm
>>> 
>>> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw:
>>> total 0
>>> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 var
>>> 
>>> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var:
>>> total 0
>>> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 run
>>> 
>>> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var/run:
>>> total 0
>>> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 fink
>>> 
>>> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var/run/fink:
>>> total 0
>>> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 buildlock
>>> 
>>> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var/run/fink/buildlock:
>>> total 16
>>> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  5 19 Jun 13:22 libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1.pid
>> Those look reasonable to me.  Is there anything out of the ordinary about 
>> your setup, like having /sw on a symlinked external volume?
> No, /sw is at its usual place on my only HD "Macintosh HD".
> 
> 

Ah.  We’ve historically had issues with Fink on external drives or network 
shares, and their behavior can change via mount options, so I figured that was 
something to look for.

What happens if you run the command manually at a shell prompt:

$ sudo dpkg-deb -b 
/sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1 /sw/src/fink.build

?

Do you get the same error?  

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Re: [Fink-beginners] cannot install / update after last selfupdate.

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 22:41, Thomas Scharkowski  
> wrote:
> 
>>> 



>> How about " ls -lR 
>> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1 "?  (lowercase 
>> “l”), so that we can verify the file sizes ?
> $ ls -lR /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1
> total 0
> drwxr-xr-x  4 root  wheel  136 19 Jun 13:22 DEBIAN
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 sw
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/DEBIAN:
> total 32
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  739 19 Jun 13:22 control
> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  545 19 Jun 13:22 prerm
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw:
> total 0
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 var
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var:
> total 0
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 run
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var/run:
> total 0
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 fink
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var/run/fink:
> total 0
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  102 19 Jun 13:22 buildlock
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var/run/fink/buildlock:
> total 16
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  5 19 Jun 13:22 libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1.pid

Those look reasonable to me.  Is there anything out of the ordinary about your 
setup, like having /sw on a symlinked external volume?




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Re: [Fink-beginners] cannot install / update after last selfupdate.

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 14:28, Thomas Scharkowski  
> wrote:
> 
>  Original-Nachricht 
>>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 11:42, Alexander Hansen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 11:30, Thomas Scharkowski  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Original-Nachricht 
>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2017, at 22:04, Thomas Scharkowski 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We haven’t done anything to change the internals of how the buildlock 
>>>>>>> system works, either.  That’s what’s failing here, because the control 
>>>>>>> file isn’t being created.  You’re sure that you literally have changed 
>>>>>>> _nothing_?  You didn’t install any third-party software at all?  The 
>>>>>>> only reasons I can think of for this to have worked at one point and 
>>>>>>> then to fail would be:
>>>>>>> 1) Changing the behavior of a system utility, e.g. by having a 
>>>>>>> third-party executable of the same name but with different behavior.
>>>>>>> 2) No disk space.
>>>>>>> 3) Incorrect permissions in the fink.build directory that somehow don’t 
>>>>>>> allow the control file to be created.
>>>>>>> $ ls -ld /sw/src/fink.build/
>>>>>>> drwxr-xr-x  20 root  wheel  680 Jun 19 07:00 /sw/src/fink.build/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> for $ ls -ld /sw/src/fink.build/ I get:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thomas$ ls -ld /sw/src/fink.build/
>>>>>> drwxr-xr-x  9 root  wheel  306 20 Jun 06:59 /sw/src/fink.build/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> so the permission are correct?
>>>>>> What else can I do?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Check your disk space.  If your disk isn’t full, try doing a build as 
>>>>> root (e.g. “fink --no-build-as-nobody build ” ).  If that works 
>>>>> then it might be that there is something wrong with the fink-bld 
>>>>> user/group which normally does our builds.  If you you get the same error 
>>>>> when building as root, we’ll have to diagnose it further.
>>>>> —Akh
>>>> I get the same error with "--no-build-as-nobody build "
>>>> 
>>>> Thomas
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Then it sounds like whatever command creates the control file isn’t 
>>> behaving properly.  I (or somebody else) will have to dig into the fink 
>>> code when I’ve got a moment to see about a test case.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
>>> Fink User Liaison
>> Could you send the output of  ls-lR 
>> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1 (or use some 
>> other root-fink-buildlock directory if that’s what you have available)?   In 
>> digging in the code, it looks like there should be an error message if the 
>> control file isn’t initially being written, so the issue might be elsewhere.
>> —akh
> thomas$ ls -LR /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1
> DEBIANsw
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/DEBIAN:
> control   prerm
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw:
> var
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var:
> run
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var/run:
> fink
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var/run/fink:
> buildlock
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var/run/fink/buildlock:
> libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1.pid
> iMac:~ thomas$ ls -LR 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1
> DEBIANsw
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/DEBIAN:
> control   prerm
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw:
> var
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var:
> run
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var/run:
> fink
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var/run/fink:
> buildlock
> 
> /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1/sw/var/run/fink/buildlock:
> libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1.pid
> 


How about " ls -lR 
/sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1 "?  (lowercase 
“l”), so that we can verify the file sizes ?


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Re: [Fink-beginners] cannot install / update after last selfupdate.

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 11:42, Alexander Hansen  
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 11:30, Thomas Scharkowski  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Original-Nachricht 
>>>> On Jun 19, 2017, at 22:04, Thomas Scharkowski  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> We haven’t done anything to change the internals of how the buildlock 
>>>>> system works, either.  That’s what’s failing here, because the control 
>>>>> file isn’t being created.  You’re sure that you literally have changed 
>>>>> _nothing_?  You didn’t install any third-party software at all?  The only 
>>>>> reasons I can think of for this to have worked at one point and then to 
>>>>> fail would be:
>>>>> 1) Changing the behavior of a system utility, e.g. by having a 
>>>>> third-party executable of the same name but with different behavior.
>>>>> 2) No disk space.
>>>>> 3) Incorrect permissions in the fink.build directory that somehow don’t 
>>>>> allow the control file to be created.
>>>>> $ ls -ld /sw/src/fink.build/
>>>>> drwxr-xr-x  20 root  wheel  680 Jun 19 07:00 /sw/src/fink.build/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> for $ ls -ld /sw/src/fink.build/ I get:
>>>> 
>>>> thomas$ ls -ld /sw/src/fink.build/
>>>> drwxr-xr-x  9 root  wheel  306 20 Jun 06:59 /sw/src/fink.build/
>>>> 
>>>> so the permission are correct?
>>>> What else can I do?
>>>> 
>>> Check your disk space.  If your disk isn’t full, try doing a build as root 
>>> (e.g. “fink --no-build-as-nobody build ” ).  If that works then it 
>>> might be that there is something wrong with the fink-bld user/group which 
>>> normally does our builds.  If you you get the same error when building as 
>>> root, we’ll have to diagnose it further.
>>> —Akh
>> I get the same error with "--no-build-as-nobody build "
>> 
>> Thomas
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Then it sounds like whatever command creates the control file isn’t behaving 
> properly.  I (or somebody else) will have to dig into the fink code when I’ve 
> got a moment to see about a test case.
> 
> -- 
> Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
> Fink User Liaison

Could you send the output of  ls-lR 
/sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1 (or use some 
other root-fink-buildlock directory if that’s what you have available)?   In 
digging in the code, it looks like there should be an error message if the 
control file isn’t initially being written, so the issue might be elsewhere.

—akh



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Re: [Fink-beginners] cannot install / update after last selfupdate.

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 11:30, Thomas Scharkowski  
> wrote:
> 
>  Original-Nachricht 
>>> On Jun 19, 2017, at 22:04, Thomas Scharkowski  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> We haven’t done anything to change the internals of how the buildlock 
>>>> system works, either.  That’s what’s failing here, because the control 
>>>> file isn’t being created.  You’re sure that you literally have changed 
>>>> _nothing_?  You didn’t install any third-party software at all?  The only 
>>>> reasons I can think of for this to have worked at one point and then to 
>>>> fail would be:
>>>> 1) Changing the behavior of a system utility, e.g. by having a third-party 
>>>> executable of the same name but with different behavior.
>>>> 2) No disk space.
>>>> 3) Incorrect permissions in the fink.build directory that somehow don’t 
>>>> allow the control file to be created.
>>>> $ ls -ld /sw/src/fink.build/
>>>> drwxr-xr-x  20 root  wheel  680 Jun 19 07:00 /sw/src/fink.build/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> for $ ls -ld /sw/src/fink.build/ I get:
>>> 
>>> thomas$ ls -ld /sw/src/fink.build/
>>> drwxr-xr-x  9 root  wheel  306 20 Jun 06:59 /sw/src/fink.build/
>>> 
>>> so the permission are correct?
>>> What else can I do?
>>> 
>> Check your disk space.  If your disk isn’t full, try doing a build as root 
>> (e.g. “fink --no-build-as-nobody build ” ).  If that works then it 
>> might be that there is something wrong with the fink-bld user/group which 
>> normally does our builds.  If you you get the same error when building as 
>> root, we’ll have to diagnose it further.
>> —Akh
> I get the same error with "--no-build-as-nobody build "
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 
> 

Then it sounds like whatever command creates the control file isn’t behaving 
properly.  I (or somebody else) will have to dig into the fink code when I’ve 
got a moment to see about a test case.

-- 
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Fink User Liaison


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Re: [Fink-beginners] Failed: phase compiling: expat1-2.2.1-1 failed

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 08:40, Alexander Hansen  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 08:19, Alexander Hansen  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 19, 2017, at 21:43, John Wiggins  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am running latest, i.e.  Sierra 10.12.5 with
>>> Package manager version: 0.41.1
>>> Distribution version: selfupdate-rsync Tue Jun 20 00:16:34 2017, 10.12, 
>>> x86_64
>>> Trees: local/main stable/main stable/crypto unstable/main 
>>> unstable/crypto local/injected
>>> Xcode.app: 8.3.3
>>> Xcode command-line tools: 8.3.2.0.1.1492020469
>>> and noticed that there does not appear to be an command line tools update 
>>> from Xcode 8.3.2 to 8.3.3, so unsure if this could be the issue.
>>> 
>>> The compile error is as follows:
>>> /usr/bin/make
>>> /bin/sh ./libtool  --mode=compile gcc -I./lib -I. -g -O2 -fshort-wchar 
>>> -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -fexceptions 
>>> -fno-strict-aliasing  -MD -I/sw/include -DHAVE_EXPAT_CONFIG_H -o 
>>> lib/xmlparse.lo -c lib/xmlparse.c
>>> libtool: compile:  gcc -I./lib -I. -g -O2 -fshort-wchar -Wall 
>>> -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -fexceptions -fno-strict-aliasing 
>>> -MD -I/sw/include -DHAVE_EXPAT_CONFIG_H -c lib/xmlparse.c  -fno-common 
>>> -DPIC -o lib/.libs/xmlparse.o
>>> In file included from lib/xmlparse.c:702:
>>> /usr/include/sys/random.h:37:22: error: expected ')'
>>> int getentropy(void* buffer, size_t size);
>>>   ^
>>> lib/xmlparse.c:626:23: note: expanded from macro 'buffer'
>>> #define buffer (parser->m_buffer)
>>>^
>>> /usr/include/sys/random.h:37:22: note: to match this '('
>>> lib/xmlparse.c:626:16: note: expanded from macro 'buffer'
>>> #define buffer (parser->m_buffer)
>>> ^
>>> lib/xmlparse.c:721:9: warning: implicit declaration of function 'getrandom' 
>>> is invalid in C99 [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
>>>  getrandom(currentTarget, bytesToWrite, getrandomFlags);
>>>  ^
>>> 1 warning and 1 error generated.
>>> make: *** [lib/xmlparse.lo] Error 1
>>> ### execution of /usr/bin/make failed, exit code 2
>>> ### execution of /tmp/fink.jzdU2 failed, exit code 2
>>> Removing runtime build-lock...
>>> Removing build-lock package...
>>> /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -r fink-buildlock-expat1-2.2.1-1
>>> (Reading database ... 54878 files and directories currently installed.)
>>> Removing fink-buildlock-expat1-2.2.1-1 ...
>>> Failed: phase compiling: expat1-2.2.1-1 failed
>>> 
>>> Since my full build file is small, I include it as attachment.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> jw
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> I’m seeing the same thing.  This update was reported to work identically to 
>> the previous version on 10.11, so I suspect that something added to 10.12 is 
>> causing a misconfiguration.
>> -- 
>> Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
>> Fink User Liaison
> 
> This appears to be the case.   I found the following possibly relevant 
> differences in the configure phase :
> 
> 10.11:
> checking for arc4random_buf (BSD or libbsd)... yes
> checking for getrandom (Linux 3.17+, glibc 2.25+)... no
> checking for syscall SYS_getrandom (Linux 3.17+)... no
> 
> 10.12:
> checking for arc4random_buf (BSD or libbsd)... yes
> checking for getrandom (Linux 3.17+, glibc 2.25+)… yes
> 
> I’m guessing that the getrandom() from 10.12 is probably not the same as that 
> in Linux.
> -- 
> Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
> Fink User Liaison
> 

A fix was just added which worked for me on 10.12.  This should be available 
via selfupdate shortly.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Failed: phase compiling: expat1-2.2.1-1 failed

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 19, 2017, at 21:43, John Wiggins  wrote:
> 
> I am running latest, i.e.  Sierra 10.12.5 with
>   Package manager version: 0.41.1
>   Distribution version: selfupdate-rsync Tue Jun 20 00:16:34 2017, 10.12, 
> x86_64
>   Trees: local/main stable/main stable/crypto unstable/main 
> unstable/crypto local/injected
>   Xcode.app: 8.3.3
>   Xcode command-line tools: 8.3.2.0.1.1492020469
> and noticed that there does not appear to be an command line tools update 
> from Xcode 8.3.2 to 8.3.3, so unsure if this could be the issue.
> 
> The compile error is as follows:
> /usr/bin/make
> /bin/sh ./libtool  --mode=compile gcc -I./lib -I. -g -O2 -fshort-wchar -Wall 
> -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -fexceptions -fno-strict-aliasing  
> -MD -I/sw/include -DHAVE_EXPAT_CONFIG_H -o lib/xmlparse.lo -c lib/xmlparse.c
> libtool: compile:  gcc -I./lib -I. -g -O2 -fshort-wchar -Wall 
> -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -fexceptions -fno-strict-aliasing 
> -MD -I/sw/include -DHAVE_EXPAT_CONFIG_H -c lib/xmlparse.c  -fno-common -DPIC 
> -o lib/.libs/xmlparse.o
> In file included from lib/xmlparse.c:702:
> /usr/include/sys/random.h:37:22: error: expected ')'
> int getentropy(void* buffer, size_t size);
> ^
> lib/xmlparse.c:626:23: note: expanded from macro 'buffer'
> #define buffer (parser->m_buffer)
>  ^
> /usr/include/sys/random.h:37:22: note: to match this '('
> lib/xmlparse.c:626:16: note: expanded from macro 'buffer'
> #define buffer (parser->m_buffer)
>   ^
> lib/xmlparse.c:721:9: warning: implicit declaration of function 'getrandom' 
> is invalid in C99 [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
>getrandom(currentTarget, bytesToWrite, getrandomFlags);
>^
> 1 warning and 1 error generated.
> make: *** [lib/xmlparse.lo] Error 1
> ### execution of /usr/bin/make failed, exit code 2
> ### execution of /tmp/fink.jzdU2 failed, exit code 2
> Removing runtime build-lock...
> Removing build-lock package...
> /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -r fink-buildlock-expat1-2.2.1-1
> (Reading database ... 54878 files and directories currently installed.)
> Removing fink-buildlock-expat1-2.2.1-1 ...
> Failed: phase compiling: expat1-2.2.1-1 failed
> 
> Since my full build file is small, I include it as attachment.
> 
> Thanks,
> jw
> 
> 
> 

I’m seeing the same thing.  This update was reported to work identically to the 
previous version on 10.11, so I suspect that something added to 10.12 is 
causing a misconfiguration.
-- 
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Open MPI build failure

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 08:42, Marc Boxerman  wrote:
> 
> I take it, then, that the system will break building a single package into 
> multiple threads if and when it can.  That’s what confused me by the success 
> of the build.  The system had no dependencies to build, just openmpi and 
> openmpi-shlibs, and even when there are dependencies, Fink always seems to 
> build each package sequentially.  
> 
> Thanks again for your assistance.
> 
> Marc
> 

The default option is to let ‘make' try to divide a given package’s build into 
as many threads as you have allocated in fink’s configuration.  When packages 
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Failed: phase compiling: expat1-2.2.1-1 failed

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 08:19, Alexander Hansen  
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jun 19, 2017, at 21:43, John Wiggins  wrote:
>> 
>> I am running latest, i.e.  Sierra 10.12.5 with
>>  Package manager version: 0.41.1
>>  Distribution version: selfupdate-rsync Tue Jun 20 00:16:34 2017, 10.12, 
>> x86_64
>>  Trees: local/main stable/main stable/crypto unstable/main 
>> unstable/crypto local/injected
>>  Xcode.app: 8.3.3
>>  Xcode command-line tools: 8.3.2.0.1.1492020469
>> and noticed that there does not appear to be an command line tools update 
>> from Xcode 8.3.2 to 8.3.3, so unsure if this could be the issue.
>> 
>> The compile error is as follows:
>> /usr/bin/make
>> /bin/sh ./libtool  --mode=compile gcc -I./lib -I. -g -O2 -fshort-wchar -Wall 
>> -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -fexceptions -fno-strict-aliasing  
>> -MD -I/sw/include -DHAVE_EXPAT_CONFIG_H -o lib/xmlparse.lo -c lib/xmlparse.c
>> libtool: compile:  gcc -I./lib -I. -g -O2 -fshort-wchar -Wall 
>> -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -fexceptions -fno-strict-aliasing 
>> -MD -I/sw/include -DHAVE_EXPAT_CONFIG_H -c lib/xmlparse.c  -fno-common -DPIC 
>> -o lib/.libs/xmlparse.o
>> In file included from lib/xmlparse.c:702:
>> /usr/include/sys/random.h:37:22: error: expected ')'
>> int getentropy(void* buffer, size_t size);
>>^
>> lib/xmlparse.c:626:23: note: expanded from macro 'buffer'
>> #define buffer (parser->m_buffer)
>> ^
>> /usr/include/sys/random.h:37:22: note: to match this '('
>> lib/xmlparse.c:626:16: note: expanded from macro 'buffer'
>> #define buffer (parser->m_buffer)
>>  ^
>> lib/xmlparse.c:721:9: warning: implicit declaration of function 'getrandom' 
>> is invalid in C99 [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
>>   getrandom(currentTarget, bytesToWrite, getrandomFlags);
>>   ^
>> 1 warning and 1 error generated.
>> make: *** [lib/xmlparse.lo] Error 1
>> ### execution of /usr/bin/make failed, exit code 2
>> ### execution of /tmp/fink.jzdU2 failed, exit code 2
>> Removing runtime build-lock...
>> Removing build-lock package...
>> /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -r fink-buildlock-expat1-2.2.1-1
>> (Reading database ... 54878 files and directories currently installed.)
>> Removing fink-buildlock-expat1-2.2.1-1 ...
>> Failed: phase compiling: expat1-2.2.1-1 failed
>> 
>> Since my full build file is small, I include it as attachment.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> jw
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> I’m seeing the same thing.  This update was reported to work identically to 
> the previous version on 10.11, so I suspect that something added to 10.12 is 
> causing a misconfiguration.
> -- 
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This appears to be the case.   I found the following possibly relevant 
differences in the configure phase :

10.11:
checking for arc4random_buf (BSD or libbsd)... yes
checking for getrandom (Linux 3.17+, glibc 2.25+)... no
checking for syscall SYS_getrandom (Linux 3.17+)... no

10.12:
checking for arc4random_buf (BSD or libbsd)... yes
checking for getrandom (Linux 3.17+, glibc 2.25+)… yes

I’m guessing that the getrandom() from 10.12 is probably not the same as that 
in Linux.
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Open MPI build failure

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 19, 2017, at 22:57, Marc Boxerman  wrote:
> 
> Alexander,
> 
> Very odd:  I set the maximum number of simultaneous build jobs to 1 and 
> openmpi compiled.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Marc

I’m glad that worked.

It’s actually not too odd.  Some build systems aren’t really set up for 
multi-threaded builds.  For example, if one make procedure generates a file 
which is needed in a second procedure, and both are running simultaneously, 
there’s a good chance that the file won’t get generated by the first procedure 
in time for the second procedure, and the latter will then error out.  

These issues can be hard to find during testing, because a maintainer’s setup 
might not trigger the error, but a machine that can run more build jobs will 
divide things up in a different way so that they get out of sync.   We rely on 
community feedback to help out.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] cannot install / update after last selfupdate.

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 19, 2017, at 22:04, Thomas Scharkowski  
> wrote:
> 
> 



> 
>> We haven’t done anything to change the internals of how the buildlock system 
>> works, either.  That’s what’s failing here, because the control file isn’t 
>> being created.  You’re sure that you literally have changed _nothing_?  You 
>> didn’t install any third-party software at all?  The only reasons I can 
>> think of for this to have worked at one point and then to fail would be:
>> 1) Changing the behavior of a system utility, e.g. by having a third-party 
>> executable of the same name but with different behavior.
>> 2) No disk space.
>> 3) Incorrect permissions in the fink.build directory that somehow don’t 
>> allow the control file to be created.
>> $ ls -ld /sw/src/fink.build/
>> drwxr-xr-x  20 root  wheel  680 Jun 19 07:00 /sw/src/fink.build/
> 
> 
> for $ ls -ld /sw/src/fink.build/ I get:
> 
> thomas$ ls -ld /sw/src/fink.build/
> drwxr-xr-x  9 root  wheel  306 20 Jun 06:59 /sw/src/fink.build/
> 
> so the permission are correct?
> What else can I do?
> 

Check your disk space.  If your disk isn’t full, try doing a build as root 
(e.g. “fink --no-build-as-nobody build ” ).  If that works then it 
might be that there is something wrong with the fink-bld user/group which 
normally does our builds.  If you you get the same error when building as root, 
we’ll have to diagnose it further.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Open MPI build failure

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 18, 2017, at 18:16, Marc Boxerman  wrote:
> 
> I get several “all recursive” errors when building Openmpi.  Any suggestions 
> as to resolve this?
> 
> w/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.6-2/openmpi-1.10.6/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/adio/include
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.6-2/openmpi-1.10.6/opal/mca/event/libevent2021/libevent
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.6-2/openmpi-1.10.6/opal/mca/event/libevent2021/libevent/include
>  -I/sw/include
> include 
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.6-2/openmpi-1.10.6/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/include
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.6-2/openmpi-1.10.6/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/mpi-io
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.6-2/openmpi-1.10.6/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/adio/include
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.6-2/openmpi-1.10.6/opal/mca/event/libevent2021/libevent
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.6-2/openmpi-1.10.6/opal/mca/event/libevent2021/libevent/include
>  -I/sw/include
> io/romio/romio/adio/include 
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.6-2/openmpi-1.10.6/opal/mca/event/libevent2021/libevent
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.6-2/openmpi-1.10.6/opal/mca/event/libevent2021/libevent/include
>  -I/sw/include
> 10.6-2/openmpi-1.10.6/opal/mca/event/libevent2021/libevent/include 
> -I/sw/include
> make[4]: *** [Makefile:3396: adio/common/ad_read_str.lo] Error 1
> make[4]: Leaving directory 
> '/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.6-2/openmpi-1.10.6/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio'
> make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> ### execution of /tmp/fink.gonL8 failed, exit code 2
> ### execution of /tmp/fink.7SUiT failed, exit code 2
> Removing runtime build-lock...
> Removing build-lock package...
> /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -r fink-buildlock-openmpi-1.10.6-2
> (Reading database ... 276044 files and directories currently installed.)
> Removing fink-buildlock-openmpi-1.10.6-2 ...
> Failed: phase compiling: openmpi-1.10.6-2 failed
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Marc
> 

“all-recursive” is just a Makefile tag, i.e. from running “make all-recursive”. 
 You get several of them because every sub level reports that it failed.  There 
is literally no information from that, other than that you had a build failure 
somewhere. ;-)

Try building with a single job (e.g. by setting that via “fink configure”) so 
that you aren’t looking simultaneously at the outputs from several build 
threads.  Hopefully, that will make the actual error message easier to see.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] cannot install / update after last selfupdate.

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 19, 2017, at 04:26, Thomas Scharkowski  
> wrote:
> 
> Without having changed anything else,after a selfupdate I get the following:
> 
> thomas$ sudo fink update-all
> Scanning package description files..
> Information about 10197 packages read in 2 seconds.
> The following 2 packages will be installed or updated:
> libsamplerate0-dev libsamplerate0-shlibs
> curl --connect-timeout 30 -f -L -A 'fink/0.41.1' -O 
> http://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/distfiles/libsamplerate-0.1.9.tar.gz
>  % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time Current
> Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft Speed
> 100 4235k  100 4235k0 0   878k  0  0:00:04  0:00:04 --:--:-- 1027k
> Setting runtime build-lock...
> dpkg-deb -b /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1 
> /sw/src/fink.build
> dpkg-deb: baue Paket »fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1« in 
> »/sw/src/fink.build/fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1_2017.06.19-13.22.42_darwin-x86_64.deb«.
> /sw/bin/dpkg-deb: konnte Tempdatei nicht erstellen (control): No such file or 
> directory
> ### execution of dpkg-deb failed, exit code 2
> Failed: can't create package fink-buildlock-libsamplerate0-0.1.9-1
> 
> This also occurs when Itry to install a random new package.
> 
> Help, please!
> 
> Thomas

We haven’t done anything to change the internals of how the buildlock system 
works, either.  That’s what’s failing here, because the control file isn’t 
being created.  

You’re sure that you literally have changed _nothing_?  You didn’t install any 
third-party software at all?  The only reasons I can think of for this to have 
worked at one point and then to fail would be:
1) Changing the behavior of a system utility, e.g. by having a third-party 
executable of the same name but with different behavior.
2) No disk space.
3) Incorrect permissions in the fink.build directory that somehow don’t allow 
the control file to be created.

$ ls -ld /sw/src/fink.build/
drwxr-xr-x  20 root  wheel  680 Jun 19 07:00 /sw/src/fink.build/


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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink selfupdate

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Apr 19, 2017, at 08:20, Robert T Wyatt  wrote:
> 
> Robert Cheng wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> Recently I upgraded the mac to 10.12.3. I have since tried to do a "fink 
>> selfupdate" not failed, I am not sure if the two are related
>> 
>> bash-3.2$ fink
>> Fink 0.41.1
>> bash-3.2$ fink selfupdate
>> Before changing your selfupdate method to 'rsync', you must install
>> the Xcode Command Line Tools package from
>> http://developer.apple.com <http://developer.apple.com/> (after free 
>> registration),
>> or via the Downloads tab of the Xcode Preferences.
>> Failed: Selfupdate method 'rsync' cannot be used
>> bash-3.2$ 
>> 
>> I have also upgraded Xcode to the latest version but fink did not seem to 
>> recognise it. Can someone tell me whether the problem is with the Xcode or 
>> rsync?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Robert
> 
> Hi Robert,
> 
> Pretty sure the problem is with your Xcode Command Line Tools package. You'll 
> find the appropriate instructions for you OS here:
> http://finkproject.org/download/ <http://finkproject.org/download/>
> 
> Under:
> 
> Xcode Tools/Developer Tools
> 
> To build packages from source, which Fink currently requires on supported OS 
> versions, you will need to install the Developer Tools.
> Go to the Apple Developer site <http://developer.apple.com/> to download a 
> newer version (and any updates) after free registration.
> Recommended Developer Tools versions by OS
> 10.9  The Command Line Tools for Mavericks - Late October 2013; optionally 
> Xcode 5.0.1
> The Command Line Tools can be downloaded via the xcode-select --install 
> command, Xcode's Preferences or in a separate package.
> 10.8  The Command Line Tools for Mountain Lion - October 2013 ; optionally 
> Xcode 5.0.1
> The Command Line Tools can be downloaded via Xcode's Preferences or in a 
> separate package.
> 10.7  The Command Line Tools for Lion - April 2013; optionally Xcode 4.6.3
> The Command Line Tools can be downloaded via Xcode's Preferences or in a 
> separate package.
> 10.6  Xcode 3.2.6 (Xcode 4.2 is also available for some paid Apple developer 
> accounts)
> 10.5  Xcode 3.1.4
> 10.4  Xcode 2.5
> 
> Best regards,
> Robert

Eww, we need to update the Xcode versions on that.  
http://www.finkproject.org/index.php?phpLang=en 
<http://www.finkproject.org/index.php?phpLang=en> has more current info in the 
Status section (except for a typo in 10.12 support—the command-line tools for 
Xcode 8.0 are required, not those for 6.0).

Like Robert W. indicated, the Xcode app doesn’t actually provide rsync, so if 
you don’t have the command-line tools you’ll have to install those to do much 
of anything.
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Re: [Fink-beginners] install source-highlight: Can't resolve dependency

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Feb 21, 2017, at 11:08, Cuauhtémoc Salazar  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> After ‘fink selfupdate'  I tried both of 
>  fink -l install source-highlight
>  fink -l install libsource-highlight4
> 
> And both return the following:
>   "Can't resolve dependency "boost1.53.nopython" for package 
> "source-highlight-3.1.7-2" (no matching packages/versions found) Exiting with 
> failure."
> 
> I noticed that 
>   $ fink list boost*
> Only lists 
>   boost1.55
>   boost1.58
>   boost1.63
> 
> My system has
>   macOS 10.12.2
>   Fink   0.41.1
> 
> Any suggestions to install 'source-highlight’ using Fink? 
> 
> Thank you,
> Temok

I’ll cc the package’s maintainer of record. 

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Installation of po4a package fails due to sed error

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Feb 6, 2017, at 11:11, Scott Wilton  wrote:
> 
> I am a new fink user, (with my primary goal for installing fink of installing 
> po4a on mac). I have followed the installation instructions accurately (to 
> the best of my knowledge) and have attempted all troubleshooting methods 
> suggested to me (fink selfupdate, read FAQ, etc.) to no avail.
> 
> However, it looks to me like the error is due to sed failing. The relevant 
> part of the log:
> 
> sed -i '5iBEGIN \{ push\(\@INC, "\/sm\/lib\/perl5"\) \};' scripts/msgsearch 
> scripts/msguntypot po4a po4a-gettextize po4a-normalize po4a-translate 
> po4a-updatepo
> sed: 1: "scripts/msgsearch": unterminated substitute in regular expression
> 
> I read the FAQ about 'sed' and I do not have an usage of 'echo' in my profile 
> anywhere.
> 
> If relevant, I have attempted to install po4a from the source, but I was not 
> successful in porting it to mac.  (Hence my installation of fink.) I don't 
> think my previous attempts produced any harmful results, but I thought I 
> would mention it just in case.
> 
> Below is the full command line output:
> 
> fink install po4a 
> 
> Password:
> Information about 9944 packages read in 2 seconds.
> The following package will be installed or updated:
>  po4a
> Setting runtime build-lock...
> dpkg-deb -b /sm/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-po4a-0.47-1 
> /sm/src/fink.build
> dpkg-deb: building package `fink-buildlock-po4a-0.47-1' in 
> `/sm/src/fink.build/fink-buildlock-po4a-0.47-1_2017.02.06-12.55.17_darwin-x86_64.deb'.
> Installing build-lock package...
> /sm/bin/dpkg-lockwait -i 
> /sm/src/fink.build/fink-buildlock-po4a-0.47-1_2017.02.06-12.55.17_darwin-x86_64.deb
> Selecting previously deselected package fink-buildlock-po4a-0.47-1.
> (Reading database ... 13764 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking fink-buildlock-po4a-0.47-1 (from 
> .../fink-buildlock-po4a-0.47-1_2017.02.06-12.55.17_darwin-x86_64.deb) ...
> Setting up fink-buildlock-po4a-0.47-1 (2017.02.06-12.55.17) ...
> 
> sudo -u fink-bld [ENV] sh -c /tmp/fink.w0CLV
> env LANG=C LC_ALL=C /sm/bin/tar  --no-same-owner --no-same-permissions -xf 
> /sm/src/po4a_0.47.orig.tar.gz
> sudo -u fink-bld [ENV] sh -c /tmp/fink.QqHZm
> sed -i '5iBEGIN \{ push\(\@INC, "\/sm\/lib\/perl5"\) \};' scripts/msgsearch 
> scripts/msguntypot po4a po4a-gettextize po4a-normalize po4a-translate 
> po4a-updatepo
> sed: 1: "scripts/msgsearch": unterminated substitute in regular expression
> ### execution of sed failed, exit code 1
> ### execution of /tmp/fink.QqHZm failed, exit code 1
> Removing runtime build-lock...
> Removing build-lock package...
> /sm/bin/dpkg-lockwait -r fink-buildlock-po4a-0.47-1
> (Reading database ... 13765 files and directories currently installed.)
> Removing fink-buildlock-po4a-0.47-1 ...
> Failed: phase patching: po4a-0.47-1 failed
> 
> Before reporting any errors, please run "fink selfupdate" and try again.
> 
> ...
> 
> Also include the following system information:
> Package manager version: 0.41.1
> Distribution version: selfupdate-rsync Mon Feb  6 12:33:09 2017, 10.12, x86_64
> Trees: local/main stable/main
> Xcode.app: 8.2.1
> Xcode command-line tools: 8.2.0.0.1.1480973914
> Max. Fink build jobs:  1
> 
>  exit status 1
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> Scott

Unfortunately, since you’re not using our default tree, you won’t be able to 
use the binary distribution to install the package, but there is a still quick 
workaround.  

It looks like the po4a build description is using a sed construct which works 
with GNU sed but not with Apple’s BSD sed.  You can install fink’s sed via 
"fink install sed” and the po4a build should work for you.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Can't install php5 because of unsatisfiable dependency on apache2-mpm-prefork

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jan 20, 2017, at 09:12, Mark Sapiro  wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry to contact you off list, but have you seen the subject post
> archived at
> <https://sourceforge.net/p/fink/mailman/fink-beginners/thread/e3aa09dd-6cd8-5a45-637d-75b72523d5a7%40msapiro.net/#msg35603094>?
> 
> I ask because I see you are quite active in responding to list posts,
> and I posted this last Saturday and have received no response. I would
> appreciate receiving any kind of answer or advice about where else to go
> for help.
> 
> -- 
> Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

I saw it.  None of those are _my_ packages, so I don’t know much about them, 
and contacting me off-list isn’t going to help much.

I suggest that you contact the libapache2-mod-php5 maintainer (fink info 
libapache2-mod-php5).  He might not be reading -beginners and therefore not 
know about this dependency hole.  

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Re: [Fink-beginners] dpkg-bootstrap-1.10.21-1221 failed

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jan 20, 2017, at 08:19, Qunawei Zhang  wrote:
> 
> Thanks. I include more information as below. 
> 
> fatal error: too many errors emitted, stopping now [-ferror-limit=]
> 20 errors generated.
> make[2]: *** [main.o] Error 1
> make[1]: *** [all-main] Error 2
> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 2
> ### execution of make failed, exit code 2
> phase compiling: dpkg-bootstrap-1.10.21-1221 failed
> 
> Before reporting any errors, please run "fink selfupdate" and try again.
> Also try using "fink configure" to set your maximum build jobs to 1 and
> attempt to build the package again.
> If you continue to have issues, please check to see if the FAQ on Fink's 
> website solves the problem.  If not, ask on one (not both, please) of
> these mailing lists:
> 
>   The Fink Users List 
>   The Fink Beginners List .
> 
> Please try to include the complete error message in your report.  This
> generally consists of a compiler line starting with e.g. "gcc" or "g++"
> followed by the actual error output from the compiler.
> 
> Also include the following system information:
> Package manager version: 0.38.7
> Distribution version: selfupdate-point (bootstrap), 10.8, x86_64
> Trees: local/main stable/main
> Xcode.app: 5.1.1
> Xcode command-line tools: 4.6.0.0.1.1358221012
> Max. Fink build jobs:  8

Perhaps I wasn’t clear.  What you’re posting comes from after the error has 
already occurred.  The extra output doesn’t help at all.

Post from _earlier_ in your build.  Like I said, look for the last compiler 
command line before errors _begin_.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] dpkg-bootstrap-1.10.21-1221 failed

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jan 20, 2017, at 07:06, Qunawei Zhang  wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> 
> I downloaded "fink-0.38.7" and trying to install it on my computer (OS X 
> 10.8.5). The Xcode version on my computer is 5.1.1.
> I followed the instruction in the file INSTALL, but I got the following 
> errors. I have tried it several times (even restart the computer), I got the 
> same error (show below). Do you have any suggestions?  
> 
> 
> :34:1: note: instantiated from:
> __AVAILABILITY_INTERNAL__MAC_10_0_DEP__MAC_10_8
> ^
> fatal error: too many errors emitted, stopping now [-ferror-limit=]
> 20 errors generated.
> make[2]: *** [main.o] Error 1
> make[1]: *** [all-main] Error 2
> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 2
> ### execution of make failed, exit code 2
> phase compiling: dpkg-bootstrap-1.10.21-1221 failed
> 
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Best
> Quanwei

It’s actually a _good_ thing if you get the same error every time, because that 
makes it easier to track the source of the error down.

Unfortunately, what you posted doesn’t actually have much useful information.  
Could you please post a bit more from the end of your build log?  We generally 
like to have people start with the last command the compiler tried to run.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Failed update of CERN/root4&5 with FINK

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(plain text, please)

(we specifically ask people _not_ to use multiple mailing lists)

> On Jan 15, 2017, at 23:52, Jean Eric Ducret  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear Fink users,
> It’s been now several days that I’m trying to update all my packages with 
> FINK after a "sudo fink selfupdate" command as usual.
> The fink update-all command generates, as you can see in the screen copy 
> below the update of root4 & root5 from CERN software. Anyway, this update 
> crashes always at the same time of the compiling/installing procedure on the 
> apparent diagnostic that "openssl/ssl.h" is not found whereas it exists 
> properly in the /sw/include/openssl directory.
> If anyone has an idea of how to improve this situation… 
> Have a nice day,
> Jean-Éric
> 
> sapmcb46:~ ducret$ fink update-all
> 

 we don’t normally need anything which isn’t part of the build output for 
the package in question, like the installation output from other packages.

> Setting runtime build-lock...
> dpkg-deb -b /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-xrootd4-4.5.0-1 
> /sw/src/fink.build
> dpkg-deb : construction du paquet « fink-buildlock-xrootd4-4.5.0-1 » dans « 
> /sw/src/fink.build/fink-buildlock-xrootd4-4.5.0-1_2017.01.16-08.35.33_darwin-x86_64.deb
>  ».
> Installing build-lock package...
> /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -i 
> /sw/src/fink.build/fink-buildlock-xrootd4-4.5.0-1_2017.01.16-08.35.33_darwin-x86_64.deb
> Selecting previously deselected package fink-buildlock-xrootd4-4.5.0-1.
> (Reading database ... 176737 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking fink-buildlock-xrootd4-4.5.0-1 (from 
> .../fink-buildlock-xrootd4-4.5.0-1_2017.01.16-08.35.33_darwin-x86_64.deb) ...
> /sw/share/dbus/launchd/org.finkproject.dbus-session.plist: Path had bad 
> ownership/permissions
> Setting up fink-buildlock-xrootd4-4.5.0-1 (2017.01.16-08.35.33) ...
> /sw/share/dbus/launchd/org.finkproject.dbus-session.plist: Path had bad 
> ownership/permissions
> 



> -- Found OpenSSL: /usr/lib/libssl.dylib;/usr/lib/libcrypto.dylib  

Here is the problem.  The build is finding Apple’s OpenSSL instead of 
Fink's—one of the other developers mentioned happened for him on 10.11.  This 
is an older version of OpenSSL (0.9.8) and isn’t completely compatible with 
what the package is looking for, which is 1.0.x.  

> -- Looking for TLSv1_2_method
> -- Looking for TLSv1_2_method - not found
> -- Looking for TLSv1_1_method
> -- Looking for TLSv1_1_method - not found
> -- Looking for TLSv1_method
> -- Looking for TLSv1_method - found
> -- Found KERBEROS5: /usr/lib/libkrb5.dylib;/usr/lib/libcom_err.dylib  
> —



> [ 40%] Building CXX object 
> src/CMakeFiles/XrdHttp-4.dir/XrdHttp/XrdHttpProtocol.cc.o
> In file included from 
> /sw/src/fink.build/xrootd4-4.5.0-1/xrootd-4.5.0/src/XrdHttp/XrdHttpProtocol.cc:36:
> /sw/src/fink.build/xrootd4-4.5.0-1/xrootd-4.5.0/src/XrdHttp/XrdHttpProtocol.hh:51:10:
>  fatal error: 'openssl/ssl.h' file not
>   found
> #include 
>  ^
> 1 error generated.
> make[2]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/XrdHttp-4.dir/build.make:63: 
> src/CMakeFiles/XrdHttp-4.dir/XrdHttp/XrdHttpProtocol.cc.o] Error 1
> make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/Makefile2:229: src/CMakeFiles/XrdHttp-4.dir/all] 
> Error 2
> make: *** [Makefile:128: all] Error 2

There may be an explicit flag(s) that the build can use to force the use of 
Fink’s OpenSSL.  I haven’t looked at this build yet in any depth, however.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Problem building Python....

[Alexander Hansen]

>> 
>> I don’t reproduce this on my own 10.12/Xcode 8.2 setup, either, so my guess 
>> is that you’ve got something wacky going on with this machine.  My 
>> /usr/include/sys/random.h has
>> 
>> int getentropy(void* buffer, size_t size);
>> 
>> on line 37.  You might check whether that file is indeed different on your 
>> laptop and the problem box.  
>> 
>> Since this is a system header, fixing it might be a bit tricky.
>> 
>> $ pkgutil --file-info /usr/include/sys/random.h
>> volume: /
>> path: /usr/include/sys/random.h
>> 
>> pkgid: com.apple.pkg.DevSDK
>> pkg-version: 10.12.2.1.1.1480484267
>> install-time: 1480522158
>> uid: 0
>> gid: 0
>> mode: 444
>> 
>> pkgid: com.apple.pkg.DevSDK_OSX1012
>> pkg-version: 8.2.0.0.1.1480973914
>> install-time: 1481659218
>> uid: 0
>> gid: 0
>> mode: 444
>> 
>> It’s possible to get at the disk image buried in the OS X installer so that 
>> you can get at the packages it contains, but I don’t have that information 
>> off the top of my head.  
>> 
>> As a workaround, as long as the laptop is running the same OS X major 
>> version as the other machine you can copy the .deb from the laptop over and 
>> install it with “sudo dpkg -i ”
> 
> Thanks.  I finally got to check the files.
> 
> 1) "int getentropy(void* buffer, size_t size);” does not appear on line 37.  
> I suspect this is because …
> 
> 2) I have wrong package installed, which is from 10.11
> 
> mcrc13-39>  pkgutil --file-info /usr/include/sys/random.h
> volume: /
> path: /usr/include/sys/random.h
> 
> pkgid: com.apple.pkg.DevSDK
> pkg-version: 10.11.3.0.1.1456982112
> install-time: 1477449117
> uid: 0
> gid: 0
> mode: 444
> 
> pkgid: com.apple.pkg.DevSDK_OSX1011
> pkg-version: 8.2.0.0.1.1480973914
> install-time: 1481654758
> uid: 0
> gid: 0
> mode: 444
> 
> pkgid: com.apple.pkg.DevSDK_OSX1012
> pkg-version: 8.1.0.0.1.1476494586
> install-time: 1477932058
> uid: 0
> gid: 0
> mode: 444
> 
> So the first question is: if i do an OS re-install from the on-line image 
> from Apple, will this issue be resolved?
> 
> Best!
> 
> -Ross
> 


I’m honestly not sure.   Make sure to do a backup first. :-)
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Re: [Fink-beginners] xfig broken

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> On Jan 13, 2017, at 14:56, Schneider  wrote:
> 
> Alexander:
> 
>> I wasn???t monitoring your bug report for Xfig, but the person who
>> responded on the ticket let me know about it.  I???ve updated xfig
>> appropriately, and the fix works for me.  Look for version 3.2.6-3
>> of xfig when you do a ???fink selfupdate'.
> 
> YAY It works
> 
> I had a bit of trouble so for the record here's what I did and what
> happened:
> 
> I did:
> fink selfupdate
> fink update-all
> 
> No problem.
> 
> Then lanunch xfig:
> 
> % xfig
> Error: Can't open display: 
> /private/tmp/com.apple.launchd.3XMvjpgNfo/org.macosforge.xquartz:0
> 
> But also:
> 
> % xterm
> xterm: Xt error: Can't open display: 
> /private/tmp/com.apple.launchd.3XMvjpgNfo/org.macosforge.xquartz:0
> 
> So I googled that error:
> https://www.google.com/search?&q=+Xt+error:+Can%27t+open+display:
> 
>> Also, check that you have X11 installed on the client end. I was
>> getting this issue when I upgraded my Mac to OS X Mountain Lion.
>> Mountain Lion removes X11, so you have to install it again via the
>> open source X Quartz project. http://xquartz.macosforge.org/landing
> 
> That jumps to
> 
> https://www.xquartz.org/
> 
> I already had that installed, but started the install anyway and it
> said:
> 
>> If this is your first time installing XQuartz, you may wish to
>> logout and log back in.  This will update your DISPLAY environment
>> variable to point to XQuartz.app rather than X11.app.  If you would
>> prefer to keep using X11.app as your default server (you can still
>> launch XQuartz.app manually), you'll want to disable
>> /Library/LaunchAgents/org.macosforge.xquartz.startx.plist using
>> launchctl(1).
> 
> So I figured I would complete the install (in case some component
> was somehow broken).  It installed cleanly.
> 
> I restarted my machine and now xfig works - I can type
> into the boxes, create figures, save them.
> 
> HUGE THANKS
> 
> Tom
> 
>  Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
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>  https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)

I’m glad it’s working again for you!

I’ve generally found that it’s easiest just to reboot when display errors like 
that show up.  Though, for purposes of disclosure, my machine has an SSD so it 
reboots really quickly.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Xfig dialog windows: cannot type text

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jan 12, 2017, at 13:16, Cuauhtémoc Salazar  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Alexander,
> 
> I just tested the reverse case and the behaviour is the same: logging  from a 
> Linux machine into a Mac computer and using Fink’s Xfig (with the package's 
> versions described above in the thread) opens a XFig session where *any* 
> Dialog Window  does not accept new text from the keyboard.
> 
> For now I will use the Linux machine’s XFig, but will keep an eye on the 
> mailing list.
> 
> Thank you,
> Temok

Try version 3.2.6-3, which I just put in.  It works for me.  Somebody reminded 
me actually to check the xfig tickets. :-)

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Re: [Fink-beginners] xfig broken

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> On Dec 20, 2016, at 16:20, Schneider  wrote:
> 
> Alexander:
> 
>>> I could not get it to take anything in SaveAs.
>> 
>> Hmm.  Maybe check what you have on the Pasteboard tab of the XQuartz
>> preferences.  Another option might be to use an xterm or other X11
>> terminal.
> 
> That was wrong.  I found I could paste using the middle mouse button. 
> Can't delete though, as you pointed out.
> 
> Tom
> 
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>  schne...@mail.nih.gov
>  https://schneider.ncifcrf.gov (current link)
>  https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)

I wasn’t monitoring your bug report for Xfig, but the person who responded on 
the ticket let me know about it.  I’ve updated xfig appropriately, and the fix 
works for me.  Look for version 3.2.6-3 of xfig when you do a ‘fink selfupdate'.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Xfig dialog windows: cannot type text

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jan 12, 2017, at 13:16, Cuauhtémoc Salazar  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Alexander,
> 
> I just tested the reverse case and the behaviour is the same: logging  from a 
> Linux machine into a Mac computer and using Fink’s Xfig (with the package's 
> versions described above in the thread) opens a XFig session where *any* 
> Dialog Window  does not accept new text from the keyboard.
> 
> For now I will use the Linux machine’s XFig, but will keep an eye on the 
> mailing list.
> 
> Thank you,
> Temok

Thanks for testing that.  Hopefully this will help us narrow down the problem.




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Re: [Fink-beginners] Xfig dialog windows: cannot type text

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jan 12, 2017, at 10:12, Cuauhtémoc Salazar  
> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Alexander!
> 
> I’d like to mention also that this issue seems unrelated to XQuartz, since I 
> can log into a linux machine and use XFig therein, displaying the graphics in 
> my Mac, using XQuartz’ X11.
> 
> Cheers,
> Temok

I’m curious about the reverse process, too.  If you log in to your Mac from a 
Linux machine and display your Fink xfig there, does the issue persist?  

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Xfig dialog windows: cannot type text

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jan 12, 2017, at 08:40, Cuauhtémoc Salazar  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear All, 
> 
> I recently did a clean installation of the operative system, Fink, X11 and 
> Xfig, and turns out I cannot type text in the XFig’s dialog windows, like 
> File > Save As.., nor can I edit OLD text labels with the dialog window that 
> pops up when clicking the “Edit” button. However I can insert new text. 
> Hence, the problem seems to be only in “dialog windows”. I’ve been using Xfig 
> on Mac computers for about 10 years, and this is the first time I face this 
> issue. The installed versions are:
> — macOS 10.12.2 (Sierra),
> — Fink 0.41.1,
> — XQuartz   2.7.1  (x-org server 1.18.4),
> — XFig 3.2.6
> 
> I would appreciate any suggestions to fix this issue!
> Kindly,
> Temok
> 

We’ve had prior reports of this issue for this version of Xfig.  I believe a 
report was filed with the Xfig developers, but I haven’t heard anything more 
about that.  

The workaround that we’ve been able to come up with so far is to copy text from 
elsewhere, and paste it into the dialog window text field using a mouse 
middle-click.  Unfortunately, that won’t help with editing the text.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Problem building Python....

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jan 10, 2017, at 11:08, Smith, Phillip R.  wrote:
> 
> Here is the problem code.  The odd thing is that I have the same packages on 
> my laptop, and they built without an issue.
> 
> =Ross
> 
> gcc -c -fno-strict-aliasing -g -O2 -DNDEBUG -g -fwrapv -fwrapv -O3 -Wall 
> -Wstrict-prototypes  -I. -IInclude -I./Include -I/sw/include  -DPy_BUILD_CORE 
> -o Python/structmember.o Python/structmember.c
> In file included from Python/random.c:7:
> /usr/include/sys/random.h:37:32: error: unknown type name 'u_int'
> void read_random(void* buffer, u_int numBytes);
>   ^
> /usr/include/sys/random.h:38:33: error: unknown type name 'u_int'
> void read_frandom(void* buffer, u_int numBytes);
>^
> /usr/include/sys/random.h:39:33: error: unknown type name 'u_int'
> int  write_random(void* buffer, u_int numBytes);
>^
> Python/random.c:117:19: warning: implicit declaration of function 
> 'getentropy' is invalid in C99 [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
>res = getentropy(buffer, len);
>  ^
> 1 warning and 3 errors generated.
> make: *** [Makefile:1365: Python/random.o] Error 1
> make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
> ### execution of make failed, exit code 2
> ### execution of /tmp/fink.jVTZb failed, exit code 2
> Removing runtime build-lock...
> Removing build-lock package...
> /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -r fink-buildlock-python27-2.7.13-1
> (Reading database ... 254562 files and directories currently installed.)
> Removing fink-buildlock-python27-2.7.13-1 ...
> Failed: phase compiling: python27-2.7.13-1 failed
> 
> Before reporting any errors, please run "fink selfupdate" and try again.
> Also try using "fink configure" to set your maximum build jobs to 1 and
> attempt to build the package again.
> If you continue to have issues, please check to see if the FAQ on Fink's
> website solves the problem.  If not, ask on one (not both, please) of
> these mailing lists:
> 
>   The Fink Users List 
>   The Fink Beginners List ,
> 
> with a carbon copy to the maintainer:
> 
>   Daniel Johnson 
> 
> Note that this is preferable to emailing just the maintainer directly,
> since most fink package maintainers do not have access to all possible
> hardware and software configurations.
> 
> Please try to include the complete error message in your report.  This
> generally consists of a compiler line starting with e.g. "gcc" or "g++"
> followed by the actual error output from the compiler.
> 
> Also include the following system information:
> Package manager version: 0.41.1
> Distribution version: selfupdate-cvs Mon Jan  9 12:15:05 2017, 10.12, x86_64
> Trees: local/main stable/main local/injected
> Xcode.app: 8.2.1
> Xcode command-line tools: 8.2.0.0.1.1480973914
> Max. Fink build jobs:  8
> 
> 

I don’t reproduce this on my own 10.12/Xcode 8.2 setup, either, so my guess is 
that you’ve got something wacky going on with this machine.  My 
/usr/include/sys/random.h has

int getentropy(void* buffer, size_t size);

on line 37.  You might check whether that file is indeed different on your 
laptop and the problem box.  

Since this is a system header, fixing it might be a bit tricky.

$ pkgutil --file-info /usr/include/sys/random.h
volume: /
path: /usr/include/sys/random.h

pkgid: com.apple.pkg.DevSDK
pkg-version: 10.12.2.1.1.1480484267
install-time: 1480522158
uid: 0
gid: 0
mode: 444

pkgid: com.apple.pkg.DevSDK_OSX1012
pkg-version: 8.2.0.0.1.1480973914
install-time: 1481659218
uid: 0
gid: 0
mode: 444

It’s possible to get at the disk image buried in the OS X installer so that you 
can get at the packages it contains, but I don’t have that information off the 
top of my head.  

As a workaround, as long as the laptop is running the same OS X major version 
as the other machine you can copy the .deb from the laptop over and install it 
with “sudo dpkg -i ”

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Re: [Fink-beginners] xfig broken

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Dec 20, 2016, at 16:10, Schneider  wrote:
> 
> Alexander:
> 
>> Yeah, it's an ugly option.  You can paste into a filename field and
>> then use a window button to  save/export/load/etc. but it doesn't
>> actually become fully functional at any point, so no backspace, cursor,
> 
> I could not get it to take anything in SaveAs.

Hmm.  Maybe check what you have on the Pasteboard tab of the XQuartz 
preferences.  

Another option might be to use an xterm or other X11 terminal.



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Re: [Fink-beginners] xfig broken

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Dec 15, 2016, at 17:25, Schneider  wrote:
> 
> Alexander:
> 
>> For example, I just now entered some text in an OS X Terminal
>> window, selected and copied it, and then used middle-click (since I
>> have a two-button mouse with a scroll wheel here) to paste the text
>> into a file dialogs in xfig.
> 
> I've been able to do that too with a similar mouse.  But it just
> doesn't activate the text window.

Yeah, it’s an ugly option.  You can paste into a filename field and then use a 
window button to  save/export/load/etc. but it doesn’t actually become fully 
functional at any point, so no backspace, cursor, ….  The fact that the drawing 
text tool does work suggests that the keyboard interaction problem is localized 
specifically to the dialogs, but I’m not sure what’s going on there.

> 
>> It???s possible that the update to XQuartz broke keystroke entry into the 
>> file dialogs here, but I haven???t found any reports about it yet other than 
>> here so I don???t know for sure.
>> 
>> XQuartz is the only supported Xwindows option for 10.8 +.  
> 
> The icon I have has changed to a black X with an orange ring around
> it.  I believe it was an X on a white background before i installed
> Xquartz.
> 
> Looks like I've trashed my X windows maybe?
> 

No, this particular item is broken for everybody.  Hopefully we can scare up a 
fix.  It might be worth filing a ticket on 
https://sourceforge.net/p/mcj/tickets/  
, which pertains to this newer xfig.  I haven’t tried to use it for anything in 
15 years, though, so I’m probably not a good person to do that.

> Tom
> 
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>  Senior Investigator
>  National Institutes of Health
>  National Cancer Institute
>  Center for Cancer Research
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Re: [Fink-beginners] xfig broken

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Dec 15, 2016, at 11:00, Schneider  wrote:
> 
> Alexander:
> 
>> The list archives exist in multiple places, though those aren't all
>> currently in the email footers.
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/fink/mailman/?source=navbar has links to
>> the direct sourceforge list archives.
> 
> Ok.  I found it awkward to use.  One has to go to the end of the list
> that appears from a search for 'xfig' - and then it is not easy to
> find the relevant postings.  I didn't find the discussion if there was
> one …
> 

We have literally no control over that, sorry.


>> We can probably make an older xfig available, but it would take a bit
>> of effort.
> 
> That would be good!
> 
>> There's an immediate (albeit ugly) workaround, however, which is to
>> copy your text from another window and paste it into an xfig text box.
> 
> I put text into my OS X buffer but it doesn't paste into the window.

It does for me.  

For example, I just now entered some text in an OS X Terminal window, selected 
and copied it, and then used middle-click (since I have a two-button mouse with 
a scroll wheel here) to paste the text into a file dialogs in xfig.  

> 
> I found that I have the old xfig binary but it now doesn't allow
> typing in text boxes either!  I suspect that my switch to XQuartz is
> responsible.  Does anyone know about this?  How do I switch back to
> X11?
> 
> Tom
> 
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>  Center for Cancer Research
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>  https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)


It’s possible that the update to XQuartz broke keystroke entry into the file 
dialogs here, but I haven’t found any reports about it yet other than here so I 
don’t know for sure.

XQuartz is the only supported Xwindows option for 10.8 +.  
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Re: [Fink-beginners] xfig broken

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Dec 14, 2016, at 12:23, Schneider  wrote:
> 
> I just installed the latest xfig (3.2.6-2) using fink.
> 
> It works, but I can't type into text boxes.  I think I saw something
> about this somewhere, perhaps on fink but I can't get to the archive
> to check.
> 
> The previous xfig 3.2.5c worked.
> 
> Possibly relevant:
> I recently switched to Xquartz.
> Running Mac OS X 10.10.5.
> 
> What can I do?  Is there a way to revert back using fink?  Should I
> dump Xquartz (which isn't helping since I could not install what I
> wanted that uses it)?
> 
> Tom
> 
>  Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
>  Senior Investigator
>  National Institutes of Health
>  National Cancer Institute
>  Center for Cancer Research
>  Gene Regulation and Chromosome Biology Laboratory
>  Molecular Information Theory Group
>  Frederick, Maryland  21702-1201
>  schne...@mail.nih.gov
>  https://schneider.ncifcrf.gov (current link)
>  https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)
> 

The list archives exist in multiple places, though those aren’t all currently 
in the email footers.  https://sourceforge.net/p/fink/mailman/?source=navbar 
<https://sourceforge.net/p/fink/mailman/?source=navbar> has links to the direct 
sourceforge list archives.

We can probably make an older xfig available, but it would take a bit of 
effort. 

There’s an immediate (albeit ugly) workaround, however, which is to copy your 
text from another window and paste it into an xfig text box.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] broken archive link

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Dec 14, 2016, at 12:13, Schneider  wrote:
> 
> As of December 11th, at the end of the fink beginners mailing list
> emails is:
> 
>> Fink-beginners mailing list
>> Fink-beginners@lists.sourceforge.net
>> List archive:
>> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.beginners
>> Subscription management:
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> 
> I wanted to look up a discussion so I went to:
> 
> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.beginners
> 
> I got:
> 
> Page Not Found
> 
> Tom
> 
>  Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
>  Senior Investigator
>  National Institutes of Health
>  National Cancer Institute
>  Center for Cancer Research
>  Gene Regulation and Chromosome Biology Laboratory
>  Molecular Information Theory Group
>  Frederick, Maryland  21702-1201
>  schne...@mail.nih.gov
>  https://schneider.ncifcrf.gov (current link)
>  https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)
> 
> 

Ick.  gmane was supposedly getting fixed but I guess that didn’t happen.  

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Failed: Fink::SysState: Could not resolve inconsistent dependencies

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Dec 7, 2016, at 17:38, Schneider  wrote:
> 
> Oh oh.  I did:
> 
> 6 17:03   fink selfupdate
> 7 17:06   fink selfupdate
> 8 17:07   fink update-all
> 
> The final line for the update-all is:
> 
> Failed: Fink::SysState: Could not resolve inconsistent dependencies
> 
> Now what?
> 
> Tom
> 
>  Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
>  Senior Investigator
>  National Institutes of Health
>  National Cancer Institute
>  Center for Cancer Research
>  Gene Regulation and Chromosome Biology Laboratory
>  Molecular Information Theory Group
>  Frederick, Maryland  21702-1201
>  schne...@mail.nih.gov
>  https://schneider.ncifcrf.gov (current link)
>  https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)
> 
> -

We don’t know what packages were in the list to be installed from the above, so 
there really isn’t much to go on here.  Sometimes there is a message about a 
particular package which is having a dependency problem, but in other cases a 
perceived inconsistency may come out of fink’s dependency engine without 
mentioning an individual package.  Without seeing verbatim output from “fink 
update-all” we can’t offer the proper advice.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink fail

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 22, 2016, at 17:19, Schneider  wrote:
> 
> Alexander:
> 
> Can't resolve dependency "system-xfree86-dev (>= 3:2.7.112-3)" for package
> "libxaw3dxft-1.6.2-7" (no matching packages/versions found)
> Exiting with failure.
 That indicates that you need to install XQuartz 2.7.11.
>>> Is there a way that I could know this without bothering you?
> 
>> Not really. :-)  We repurposed an existing set of virtual packages
>> for the purpose, and the current package descriptions aren't very
>> helpful in explaining the versioning.
> 
>> It???s worth adding to the FAQ, though.
> 
> Maybe the FAQ could be automated to display answers upon "Exiting with
> failure"?  Pass the fail string to a program that knows where the
> right FAQ is and print that FAQ to the user.  Then you can modify the
> FAQs as needed.
> 
> Might be a bit to set up at first, but after that you would be freed

We aren’t that sophisticated—and our build procedures aren’t supposed to go 
online even to check the FAQ.  The easiest thing we can do is to have 
meaningful FAQ links under “fink info , but in this case the 
relevant FAQ doesn’t even exist.

> ...
> 
> Oh, and a solution to nox could be to have synonyms.  A message has
> system 'no-X11' and it looks that up in a synonym table to find 'nox'
> ...
> 

The best we can do for that is have a package provide a list of acceptable 
alternative names.  We’re very much constrained when anything involves the 
package name.

> Tom
> 
>  Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
>  Senior Investigator
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>  Center for Cancer Research
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>  Molecular Information Theory Group
>  Frederick, Maryland  21702-1201
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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink.tool

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 22, 2016, at 17:07, Schneider  wrote:
> 
> I'm installing fink on a new machine and using fink.tool.
> 
> Some downloads didn't work - maybe the URLs are out of date?
> 
> -
> curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 404 Not Found
> error: Unable to fetch 
> http://xquartz.macosforge.org/downloads/SL/XQuartz-2.7.11.dmg
> 
> That FAILS.
> 
> need to get it from:
> https://www.xquartz.org/releases/XQuartz-2.7.11.html
> -
> 
> Fetching Fink...
> Fetching http://downloads.sourceforge.net/fink/fink-0.41.1.tar.gz
>  % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time  Current
> Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft  Speed
>  0   3640 00 0  0  0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 0
>  0   3430 00 0  0  0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 0
>  0 00 00 0  0  0 --:--:--  0:00:30 --:--:-- 
> 0curl: (28) Connection timed out after 30861 milliseconds
> error: Unable to fetch 
> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/fink/fink-0.41.1.tar.gz
> lap 18%
> 
> I went there and downloaded by hand.
> 
> The "direct link":
> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/fink/fink/0.41.1/fink-0.41.1.tar.gz?r=&ts=1479862817&use_mirror=heanet
> 
> Tom
> 
>  Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
>  Senior Investigator
>  National Institutes of Health
>  National Cancer Institute
>  Center for Cancer Research
>  Gene Regulation and Chromosome Biology Laboratory
>  Molecular Information Theory Group
>  Frederick, Maryland  21702-1201
>  schne...@mail.nih.gov
>  https://schneider.ncifcrf.gov (current link)
>  https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)
> 
> ———
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Thanks!

It looks like the XQuartz disk image got moved so I updated that.  

downloads.sourceforge.net is supposed to auto-redirect, and it did for me, so 
I’m not going to change it.  Unfortunately this is the only way to access an 
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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink fail

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 22, 2016, at 17:04, Schneider  wrote:
> 
> Alexander:
> 
>>> Can't resolve dependency "system-xfree86-dev (>= 3:2.7.112-3)" for package
>>> "libxaw3dxft-1.6.2-7" (no matching packages/versions found)
>>> Exiting with failure.
>> 
>> That indicates that you need to install XQuartz 2.7.11.
> 
> Thanks as always for your rapid responses.
> 
> Is there a way that I could know this without bothering you?
> 
> Tom
> 
>  Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
>  Senior Investigator
>  National Institutes of Health
>  National Cancer Institute
>  Center for Cancer Research
>  Gene Regulation and Chromosome Biology Laboratory
>  Molecular Information Theory Group
>  Frederick, Maryland  21702-1201
>  schne...@mail.nih.gov
>  https://schneider.ncifcrf.gov (current link)
>  https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)
> 
> ———

Not really. :-)  We repurposed an existing set of virtual packages for the 
purpose, and the current package descriptions aren't very helpful in explaining 
the versioning.

It’s worth adding to the FAQ, though.


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Re: [Fink-beginners] impossible question

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 22, 2016, at 16:28, Schneider  wrote:
> 
> Alexander:
> 
>> It???s a very possible question, actually.  Here???s the situation.
>> 
>> 1)  texlive-nox-base and texlive-base _aren???t_ identical.  The
>> -nox version is built without -x11 support.
>> 
>> 2)  However, the short description field that fink uses is always
>> the same if different variants of a package are built using the same
>> package description, which is the case here.  That???s why the same
>> text shows up for the different packages.
>> 
>> In addition, the dependency checker isn???t set up to remember what
>> you selected previously, so you will be prompted multiple times.
> 
> Oh, thanks for the quick response.  If possible I would suggest
> modifying the question to be more clear:
> 
> (1) texlive-nox-base: Base programs for a TeX Live installation without 
> X11
> (2) texlive-base: Base programs for a TeX Live installation with X11
> 

That’s not currently possible.  The two packages share the same package 
description file and therefore the same short description field.   

> and/or say 'noX' or better 'no-X11’.

‘noX’ is illegal, because our packagnames are lowercase.

no-x11 would be a possibility, I guess, but changing  package namespaces is a 
bit involved.

the -nox nomenclature comes from Linux packaging in the early 2000s  so it’s 
got precedent.

> 
> As for responding - I have X11 so should have selected (2)?

It’s up to you, since it’s not going to change the build.  I assume that 
texlive is getting dragged in as part of a documentation build somewhere.  I’m 
personally against forcing that, but it makes for a little more hassle in 
having the docs be in separate packages.

> 
> Thanks for great work on fink!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tom
> 
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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink fail

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 22, 2016, at 15:50, Schneider  wrote:
> 
> 
> fink selfupdate
> ...
> No packages to install.
> 
> The core packages have been updated. You should now update the other packages
> using commands like 'fink update-all'.
> 
> 9% fink update-all
> Information about 10187 packages read in 1 seconds.
> Can't resolve dependency "system-xfree86-dev (>= 3:2.7.112-3)" for package
> "libxaw3dxft-1.6.2-7" (no matching packages/versions found)
> Exiting with failure.
> 10% 
> 
> 
> Oh oh ...
> 
> OS X Yosemite
> Version 10.10.5
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tom
> 
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>  https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)
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> ———


That indicates that you need to install XQuartz 2.7.11.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] impossible question

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 22, 2016, at 15:54, Schneider  wrote:
> 
> 
> 4% fink install okular4-mac
> Information about 10187 packages read in 1 seconds.
> 
> fink needs help picking an alternative to satisfy a virtual dependency. The
> candidates:
> 
> (1)   texlive-nox-base: Base programs for a TeX Live installation
> (2)   texlive-base: Base programs for a TeX Live installation
> 
> Pick one: [1] 
> 
> 
> Hmm.  Line the two up to be sure they are the same:
> 
> (1)   texlive-nox-base: Base programs for a TeX Live installation
> (2)   texlive-base: Base programs for a TeX Live installation
> 
> I don't know how to chose between two identical things!
> I'll do (2) for now ...
> 
> Tom
> 
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>  Senior Investigator
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>  Center for Cancer Research
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>  schne...@mail.nih.gov
>  https://schneider.ncifcrf.gov (current link)
>  https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)
> 
> ———

It’s a very possible question, actually.  Here’s the situation.

1)  texlive-nox-base and texlive-base _aren’t_ identical.  The -nox version is 
built without -x11 support.  

2)  However, the short description field that fink uses is always the same if 
different variants of a package are built using the same package description, 
which is the case here.  That’s why the same text shows up for the different 
packages.

In addition, the dependency checker isn’t set up to remember what you selected 
previously, so you will be prompted multiple times.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Openmpi fails to build

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 22, 2016, at 09:50, Marc Boxerman  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Alexander.
> 
> I logged off all other users and quit all applications except Finder and 
> Terminal.  
> Openmpi appears to have built successfully.  
> But oddly, fink list -o still lists openmpi and openmpi-shlibs as uninstalled 
> at the version numbers I just built.
> 
> Here’s how the build ended.  It looks normal to me.
> 
> Reverting ownership of install dir to root
> Writing control file...
> Writing package script postinst...
> Writing package script prerm...
> Writing md5sums file...
> env LANG=C LC_ALL=C dpkg-deb -b root-openmpi-1.10.4-1 
> /sw/fink/10.11/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/devel
> dpkg-deb: building package `openmpi' in 
> `/sw/fink/10.11/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/devel/openmpi_1.10.4-1_darwin-x86_64.deb'.
> Reverting ownership of install dir to root
> Writing control file...
> Creating shlibs files...
> Writing md5sums file...
> env LANG=C LC_ALL=C dpkg-deb -b root-openmpi-shlibs-1.10.4-1 
> /sw/fink/10.11/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/devel
> dpkg-deb: building package `openmpi-shlibs' in 
> `/sw/fink/10.11/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/devel/openmpi-shlibs_1.10.4-1_darwin-x86_64.deb'.
> Removing runtime build-lock...
> Removing build-lock package...
> /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -r fink-buildlock-openmpi-1.10.4-1
> (Reading database ... 265512 files and directories currently installed.)
> Removing fink-buildlock-openmpi-1.10.4-1 ...
> Updating the list of locally available binary packages.
> Scanning dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64
> New package: 
> dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/devel/openmpi-shlibs_1.10.4-1_darwin-x86_64.deb
> New package: 
> dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/devel/openmpi_1.10.4-1_darwin-x86_64.deb
> 
> Marc

It looks like they got built but not installed.  Try “fink install openmpi”.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Openmpi fails to build

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 22, 2016, at 08:31, Alexander Hansen  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 22:37, Marc Boxerman  wrote:
>> 
>> Alexander,
>> 
>> The build still failed using fink -l build openmpi.  I’m not sure what you 
>> mean by the output getting “swallowed” but the build output went to stdout 
>> as well as to the log file.  I’m attaching the log file for your review. 
>> 
>> Thanks for your continued assistance.
>> 
>> Marc
>> 
> 
> By “swallowed”  I mean: “overwritten and lost”, e.g. due to something trying 
> to be cute with control characters.
> 
> I’ll generate a log file here and do a diff.
> 
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> 

I had a log file from yesterday’s test.  I found the issue, I think.  There was 
indeed an earlier error:

./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
make[4]: *** [Makefile:3396: adio/common/ad_fstype.lo] Error 128
make[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
make[4]: *** [Makefile:3396: adio/common/ad_iread_fake.lo] Error 128
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
make[4]: *** [Makefile:3396: adio/common/ad_opencoll_scalable.lo] Error 128
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
make[4]: *** [Makefile:3396: adio/common/ad_subarray.lo] Error 129
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
make[4]: *** [Makefile:3396: adio/common/ad_write_nolock.lo] Error 128
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
make[4]: *** [Makefile:3396: adio/common/ad_write_coll.lo] Error 128
make[4]: *** [Makefile:3396: adio/common/ad_write_str_naive.lo] Error 129
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
make[4]: *** [Makefile:3396: adio/common/ad_iwrite_fake.lo] Error 129
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
./libtool: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
 
:   error: Failed to create 'adio/common/.libs'
make[4]: *** [Makefile:3396: adio/common/ad_iwrite.lo] Error 1

OS X has a fairly ungenerous default number of processes and number of files 
that it allows a user to open, so the build might well be triggering that, 
particularly if you’re using your system for other stuff.  

Fortunately, there are a few options:

1)  This version of openmpi is currently available in the 10.11 binary 
distribution.

2)  If you really want a local build, try it at a point in time where you don’t 
have a lot of other files/processes open.  Logging out or rebooting 

3)  CAUTION:   Modify the limits.  This involves mucking around in the system 
area, however.  Anyway, if you’re feeling bold, here’s a link:  
http://blog.dekstroza.io/ulimit-shenanigans-on-osx-el-capitan/  .  Note that I 
haven’t tried the method myself, because my usual solution when I want a local 
build and forking won’t work is to do option #2 and do a build when I don’t 
need the machine.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Openmpi fails to build

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 22:37, Marc Boxerman  wrote:
> 
> Alexander,
> 
> The build still failed using fink -l build openmpi.  I’m not sure what you 
> mean by the output getting “swallowed” but the build output went to stdout as 
> well as to the log file.  I’m attaching the log file for your review. 
> 
> Thanks for your continued assistance.
> 
> Marc
> 

By “swallowed”  I mean: “overwritten and lost”, e.g. due to something trying to 
be cute with control characters.

I’ll generate a log file here and do a diff.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] problem with gv

[Alexander Hansen]

No problem. gv got updated over the weekend as part of the libXt housecleaning.

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> On Nov 22, 2016, at 05:23, Mike Wilkes  wrote:
> 
> Belay this!  My bad, I see that I hadn't updated gv package afterwards.  All 
> is well now. My apologies.
> 
> 
> From: Mike Wilkes 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 7:07 AM
> To: Fink
> Subject: [Fink-beginners] problem with gv
>  
> I thought everything was good after installing xfig and octave the other day, 
> but I just tried to look at a .ps file with gv and get the following errors 
> now:
> 
> 
> MacBook-Pro:FLUIDS Mike$ gv notes.ps
> Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown event type :   EnterWindow
> Warning: ... found while parsing ':
> highlight() '
> Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
> Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown event type :   EnterWindow
> Warning: ... found while parsing ':highlight()'
> Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
> Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown modifier name:   Any
> Warning: ... found while parsing 'Any:set()PopupMenu()'
> Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
> Error: attempt to add non-widget child "fileButton" to parent "control" which 
> supports only widgets
> MacBook-Pro:FLUIDS Mike$ 
> 
> Is there a configuration file that needs to be changed since updating to 
> XQuartz 2.7.11, or am I missing a library?  Thanks.
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Openmpi fails to build

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 08:31, Alexander Hansen  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 21:49, Marc Boxerman  wrote:
>> 
>> Alexander,
>> 
>> I had a feeling the packages could not be built separately.
>> 
>> I’m using Xcode 8.1.  But as you know, I’m not able to install the newest 
>> version of command line tools because I’m not on 10.12.  My version of 
>> command line tools is 7.3.1.0.1.1461711523.
>> 
>> Marc
>> 
> 
> Yup.  Just wanted to make sure that we attempt to reproduce the issue with 
> the same toolset. :-)
> 
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> 

Unfortunately, the build failed to fail for me with 10.11/XCode CLI 7.3.1.  

One last thing to try might be to log the build via “fink -l build openmpi” 
with one build job to see if that avoids the output getting swallowed.  Also, 
if that doesn’t work, you can send me that build log and I can compare it with 
one from my setup.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Openmpi fails to build

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 20, 2016, at 21:49, Marc Boxerman  wrote:
> 
> Alexander,
> 
> I had a feeling the packages could not be built separately.
> 
> I’m using Xcode 8.1.  But as you know, I’m not able to install the newest 
> version of command line tools because I’m not on 10.12.  My version of 
> command line tools is 7.3.1.0.1.1461711523.
> 
> Marc
> 

Yup.  Just wanted to make sure that we attempt to reproduce the issue with the 
same toolset. :-)

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Openmpi fails to build

[Alexander Hansen]

e -I./include 
> -I./mpi-io -I./adio/include -I./include 
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/../../../../..
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/../../../../../opal/include
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/include
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/adio/include
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/include
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/mpi-io
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/adio/inclmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/adio/include
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/opal/mca/event/libevent2021/libevent
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/opal/mca/event/libevent2021/libevent/include
>  -I/sw/include
> omio/romio/adio/include 
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/opal/mca/event/libevent2021/libevent
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/opal/mca/event/libevent2021/libevent/include
>  -I/sw/include
> dio/include 
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/opal/mca/event/libevent2021/libevent
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/opal/mca/event/libevent2021/libevent/include
>  -I/sw/include
> ude 
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/opal/mca/event/libevent2021/libevent
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/opal/mca/event/libevent2021/libevent/include
>  -I/sw/include
> /sw/bin/flag-sort: /usr/bin/clang -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DOMPI_BUILDING=1 -O3 
> -DNDEBUG -fno-strict-aliasing -DHAVE_ROMIOCONF_H -MT 
> adio/ad_testfs/ad_testfs_resize.lo -MD -MP -MF 
> adio/ad_testfs/.deps/ad_testfs_resize.Tpo -c 
> adio/ad_testfs/ad_testfs_resize.c -fno-common -DPIC -o 
> adio/ad_testfs/.libs/ad_testfs_resize.o -I. -I./adio/include 
> -I./../../../../../opal/include -I./../../../../../ompi/include -I./include 
> -I./mpi-io -I./adio/include -I./include 
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/../../../../..
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/../../../../../opal/include
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/include
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/adio/include
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/include
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/mpi-io
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/adio/include
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/opal/mca/event/libevent2021/libevent
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/opal/mca/event/libevent2021/libevent/include
>  -I/sw/include
> make[4]: Leaving directory 
> '/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio'
> make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> ### execution of /tmp/fink.Ghcl8 failed, exit code 2
> ### execution of /tmp/fink.8N5eS failed, exit code 2
> Removing runtime build-lock...
> Removing build-lock package...
> /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -r fink-buildlock-openmpi-1.10.4-1
> (Reading database ... 265512 files and directories currently installed.)
> Removing fink-buildlock-openmpi-1.10.4-1 ...
> Failed: phase compiling: openmpi-1.10.4-1 failed
> 
> 

Hmm.  It still looks like the error output got eaten.  I don’t reproduce this 
on 10.12.  I might have a chance tomorrow to try 10.11.  What Xcode version are 
you on?




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Re: [Fink-beginners] Openmpi fails to build

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 21:08, Marc Boxerman  wrote:
> 
> I cannot update openmpi.  Here’s the output immediately before and at the 
> error:
> 
> -I/sw/include
> /sw/bin/flag-sort: /usr/bin/clang -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DOMPI_BUILDING=1 -O3 
> -DNDEBUG -fno-strict-aliasing -DHAVE_ROMIOCONF_H -MT 
> adio/ad_nfs/ad_nfs_features.lo -MD -MP -MF 
> adio/ad_nfs/.deps/ad_nfs_features.Tpo -c adio/ad_nfs/ad_nfs_features.c 
> -fno-common -DPIC -o adio/ad_nfs/.libs/ad_nfs_features.o -I. -I./adio/include 
> -I./../../../../../opal/include -I./../../../../../ompi/include -I./include 
> -I./mpi-io -I./adio/include -I./include 
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/../../../../..
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/../../../../../opal/include
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/include
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/adio/include
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/include
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/mpi-io
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio/adio/include
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/opal/mca/event/libevent2021/libevent
>  
> -I/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/opal/mca/event/libevent2021/libevent/include
>  -I/sw/include
> libtool:   error: Failed to create 'mpi-io/.libs'
> make[4]: *** [Makefile:3396: mpi-io/get_posn.lo] Error 1
> libtool:   error: Failed to create 'mpi-io/.libs'
> make[4]: *** [Makefile:3396: mpi-io/get_size.lo] Error 1
> libtool:   error: Failed to create 'mpi-io/.libs'
> make[4]: *** [Makefile:3396: mpi-io/iread.lo] Error 1
> make[4]: Leaving directory 
> '/sw/src/fink.build/openmpi-1.10.4-1/openmpi-1.10.4/ompi/mca/io/romio/romio'
> make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> ### execution of /tmp/fink.zJauj failed, exit code 2
> ### execution of /tmp/fink.x0WgO failed, exit code 2
> Removing runtime build-lock...
> Removing build-lock package...
> /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -r fink-buildlock-openmpi-1.10.4-1
> (Reading database ... 265512 files and directories currently installed.)
> Removing fink-buildlock-openmpi-1.10.4-1 ...
> Failed: phase compiling: openmpi-1.10.4-1 failed
> 
> I’m still running El Capitan.
> 
> Thank you for any assistance,
> 
> Marc
> 

How many build jobs is fink set up for?  If it’s more than one could you make 
an another attempt with only one job?  The output kind of looks like there 
might have been an earlier failure in another build thread.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] xfig startup error with display

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 13:02, Mike Wilkes  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for your patience and help, Alexander. The xfig.info was highlighted 
> in my email, so I took it to be a link...my bad. As you anticipated, I didn't 
> have the -6.2 and -1.2 revisions for libxaw3dxft and xfig, respectively, so I 
> tried to download the .info files from the experimental area of your website, 
> as suggested.  Now, they downloaded as .html files, so not knowing how to 
> download the native code, newbie finally just went ahead and copied your 
> source code into files in the proper directory.

Oh, sorry.  there’s a “raw” button which shows text files as  text so that you 
can save them as such.

> Many hours had passed. A little while ago, everything finally seemed to be in 
> place, so I selfupdated again and ran update-all. For whatever reasons, none 
> of which had much to do with me, I imagine, xfig and octave are now playing 
> well together with XQuartz 2.7.11.  Thank you very much.
> 
> My output from the commands you suggested is still not quite the same as what 
> you said, so I am not sure whether to worry about it or not, since things 
> seem to be working OK. Here is what I get:
> 
> MacBook-Pro:~ Mike$ fink list -t xfig libxaw3dxft
> Information about 10198 packages read in 1 seconds.
>  i 
> libxaw3dxft 1.6.2-6.2
> Athena widget set with 3D look
>  i 
> libxaw3dxft-shlibs  1.6.2-6.2 Athena widget set with 3D look
>  i 
> xfig
> 3.2.6-1.3
> Menu-driven tool to create graphical objects
> 
> 
> MacBook-Pro:~ Mike$ otool -L /sw/lib/libXaw3d.8.dylib
> /sw/lib/libXaw3d.8.dylib:
> /sw/lib/libXaw3d.8.dylib (compatibility version 9.0.0, current version 9.1.0)
> /opt/X11/lib/libXmu.6.dylib (compatibility version 9.0.0, current version 
> 9.0.0)
> /opt/X11/lib/libXt.6.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current version 
> 7.0.0)
> /opt/X11/lib/libX11.6.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0, current version 
> 10.0.0)
> /opt/X11/lib/libXext.6.dylib (compatibility version 11.0.0, current version 
> 11.0.0)
> /sw/lib/xft2/lib/libXft.2.dylib (compatibility version 5.0.0, current version 
> 5.0.0)
> /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 
> 1213.0.0)
> 
>  
> MacBook-Pro:~ Mike$ otool  -L /sw/bin/xfig
> /sw/bin/xfig:
> /sw/lib/libXaw3d.8.dylib (compatibility version 9.0.0, current version 9.1.0)
> /opt/X11/lib/libXt.6.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current version 
> 7.0.0)
> /opt/X11/lib/libX11.6.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0, current version 
> 10.0.0)
> /opt/X11/lib/libXpm.4.dylib (compatibility version 16.0.0, current version 
> 16.0.0)
> /sw/lib/libjpeg.9.dylib (compatibility version 12.0.0, current version 12.0.0)
> /sw/lib/libpng16.16.dylib (compatibility version 43.0.0, current version 
> 43.0.0)
> /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 
> 1213.0.0)
> 
> I am guessing you created a new xfig -1.3 version since last time, but my 
> last library linkage to libSystem.B.dylib looks like an older version 
> 1213.0.0 compared to what you thought I would see (version 1238.0.0).  Dunno 
> if this is a problem.  Thanks again.
> 

Yeah, I updated xfig.info on GitHub without updating my local build 
accordingly.  That’s the right version, anyway.  

The libSystem version indicates different OSX, so no problem there.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink self update function not working in Mac OS 10.12

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 13:42, Albert Romkes  wrote:
> 
> I tried reinstalling/updating fink in Mac OS Sierra, but selfupdate function 
> is returning an error.
> 
> fink selfupdate
> Password:
> /usr/bin/rsync -az -q  
> rsync://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/finkinfo//TIMESTAMP 
> /sw/fink/TIMESTAMP.tmp
> I will now run the rsync command to retrieve the latest package descriptions. 
> /usr/bin/rsync -rtz --delete-after --delete -q   --include='10.12/' 
> --include='10.12/stable/' --include='10.12/stable/main/' 
> --include='10.12/stable/main/finkinfo/' 
> --include='10.12/stable/main/finkinfo/*/' 
> --include='10.12/stable/main/finkinfo/*' 
> --include='10.12/stable/main/finkinfo/**/*' --include='VERSION' 
> --include='DISTRIBUTION' --include='README' --exclude='**' 
> 'rsync://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/finkinfo' '/sw/fink/'
> WARNING: Not saving timestamp of selfupdate because could not write 
> /sw/fink/10.12/VERSION.selfupdate.tmp: No such file or directory
> Scanning package description files
> Failed: not a reference at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/Services.pm line 1887.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Albert
> 

That’s a new one to me.  What do you get from the following commands:

/bin/ls /sw/fink/dists

dpkg -p fink | grep Version

?

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Re: [Fink-beginners] xfig startup error with display

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 05:04, Mike Wilkes  wrote:
> 
> After your fix of fig2dev I updated octave, and afterward could now install 
> xfig without any problem.  I then updated XQuartz to 2.7.11 this morning, and 
> it seems to be playing nicely with nedit and gv.  However, your link to 
> xfig.info <http://xfig.info/> seems to be broken.  

It wasn’t supposed to be a link.  My mailer was trying to be “helpful”.  

> I did find an xfig.info <http://xfig.info/> file under 
> /sw/fink/10.9-libcxx/local/main/finkinfo, and copied it to 
> /sw/fink/dists/local/main/finkinfo, but I imagine that is not the correct one.

Those are the same directory.  dists is a symlink to 10.9-libcxx.

> I also copied from the same directory ( 
> /sw/fink/10.9-libcxx/local/main/finkinfo ) the libxaw3dxft* files to 
> /sw/fink/dists/local/main/finkinfo .  So now I have
> 
> MacBook-Pro:~ Mike$ ls -al /sw/fink/dists/local/main/finkinfo
> total 48
> drwxr-xr-x  6 root  wheel   204 Nov 18 07:06 .
> drwxr-xr-x  4 root  wheel   136 Oct 10  2015 ..
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  8194 Nov 18 07:06 libxaw3dxft-api-tokens.patch
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  3507 Nov 18 07:06 libxaw3dxft.info 
> <http://libxaw3dxft.info/>
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   452 Nov 18 07:06 libxaw3dxft.patch
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  1848 Nov 18 07:00 xfig.info <http://xfig.info/>
> MacBook-Pro:~ Mike$ 
> 
> When I try to start xfig, however I get
> 
> MacBook-Pro:~ Mike$ xfig
> Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown event type :   EnterWindow
> Warning: ... found while parsing ':
> highlight() '
> Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
> Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown event type :   EnterWindow
> Warning: ... found while parsing ': highlight()'
> Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
> Warning: No type converter registered for 'String' to 'Relief' conversion.
> Error: Couldn't find per display information
> MacBook-Pro:~ Mike$ 
> 
> Is it the wrong x <http://xfig.info/>fig <http://xfig.info/>.info 
> <http://xfig.info/> file here?
> 
> 

You might be.  Check the following:

1)  Check whether you have installed the most current versions of the packages. 
 You should get something like the following:

$ fink list -t xfig libxaw3dxft
Information about 9954 packages read in 2 seconds.
 i  libxaw3dxft 1.6.2-6.2   Athena widget set with 3D look
 i  libxaw3dxft-shlibs  1.6.2-6.2   Athena widget set with 3D look
 i  xfig3.2.6-1.2   Menu-driven tool to create graphical objects

If those aren’t up to date, update them.  If you don’t show the -6.2 and -1.2 
revisions for libxaw3dxft and xfig, respectively, download the .info files from 
my experimental area 
(https://github.com/akhansen/Fink-experimental/tree/master/libXt) again and put 
them in /sw/fink/dists/local/main/finkinfo 

2)  Verify that /sw/lib/libXaw3d.8.dylib has the right library linkage:

$ otool -L /sw/lib/libXaw3d.8.dylib
/sw/lib/libXaw3d.8.dylib:
/sw/lib/libXaw3d.8.dylib (compatibility version 9.0.0, current version 
9.1.0)
/opt/X11/lib/libXmu.6.dylib (compatibility version 9.0.0, current 
version 9.0.0)
/opt/X11/lib/libXt.6.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current 
version 7.0.0)
/opt/X11/lib/libX11.6.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0, current 
version 10.0.0)
/opt/X11/lib/libXext.6.dylib (compatibility version 11.0.0, current 
version 11.0.0)
/sw/lib/xft2/lib/libXft.2.dylib (compatibility version 5.0.0, current 
version 5.0.0)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current 
version 1238.0.0)

3) Verify that xfig has the right library linkage:

otool  -L /sw/bin/xfig
/sw/bin/xfig:
/sw/lib/libXaw3d.8.dylib (compatibility version 9.0.0, current version 
9.1.0)
/opt/X11/lib/libXt.6.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current 
version 7.0.0)
/opt/X11/lib/libX11.6.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0, current 
version 10.0.0)
/opt/X11/lib/libXpm.4.dylib (compatibility version 16.0.0, current 
version 16.0.0)
/sw/lib/libjpeg.9.dylib (compatibility version 12.0.0, current version 
12.0.0)
/sw/lib/libpng16.16.dylib (compatibility version 42.0.0, current 
version 42.0.0)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current 
version 1238.0.0)


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Re: [Fink-beginners] Problem installing xfig

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 08:13, Alexander Hansen  
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 05:43, Mike Wilkes > <mailto:mike.wil...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you, Hanspeter. I had removed octave in order to install xfig because 
>> of the conflict between fig2dev and transfig. (I then found that there is an 
>> X11 problem running the new xfig.)  After receiving your email, I decided to 
>> reinstall octave. During the reinstall, xfig was removed. Octave installed 
>> just fine, with transfig-graphicx. I then tried to install xfig again, but 
>> the error conflict of fig2dev with transfig-graphicx appears to still be 
>> there:
>> 
>> MacBook-Pro:CLASSICAL_MECHANICS Mike$ fink install xfig
>> Information about 10196 packages read in 1 seconds.
>> The following package will be installed or updated:
>>  xfig
>> The following additional package will be installed:
>>  fig2dev
>> Default answer will be chosen in 60 seconds...
>> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
>> Reading buildlock packages...
>> /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -i 
>> /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/fig2dev_3.2.6-2_darwin-x86%5f64.deb 
>> /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/sci/octave382-atlas-qtx11_3.8.2-10_darwin-x86_64.deb
>> dpkg: considering removing transfig-graphicx in favour of fig2dev ...
>> dpkg: no, cannot remove transfig-graphicx (--auto-deconfigure will help):
>>  octave382-atlas-qtx11 depends on transfig-graphicx | transfig-epsfig
>>   transfig-graphicx is to be removed.
>>   transfig-epsfig is not installed.
>> dpkg: regarding .../fig2dev_3.2.6-2_darwin-x86%5f64.deb containing fig2dev:
>>  fig2dev conflicts with transfig-graphicx
>>   transfig-graphicx (version 3.2.5d-1015) is installed.
>> /sw/bin/dpkg: error processing 
>> /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/fig2dev_3.2.6-2_darwin-x86%5f64.deb (--install):
>>  conflicting packages - not installing fig2dev
>> (Reading database ... 191030 files and directories currently installed.)
>> Preparing to replace octave382-atlas-qtx11 3.8.2-10 (using 
>> .../octave382-atlas-qtx11_3.8.2-10_darwin-x86_64.deb) ...
>> Unpacking replacement octave382-atlas-qtx11 ...
>> Setting up octave382-atlas-qtx11 (3.8.2-10) ...
>> 
>> Errors were encountered while processing:
>>  /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/fig2dev_3.2.6-2_darwin-x86%5f64.deb
>> ### execution of /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait failed, exit code 1
>> Failed: can't batch-install packages: 
>> /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/fig2dev_3.2.6-2_darwin-x86%5f64.deb 
>> /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/sci/octave382-atlas-qtx11_3.8.2-10_darwin-x86_64.deb
>> 
>> Have I misunderstood, or missed doing something?  I do notice that I have a 
>> fig2dev in /sw/bin from yesterday, but fink doesn't show fig2dev as an 
>> installed package.
>> 
>> 
> 
> "dpkg -S /sw/bin/fig2dev”  will tell you where it came from.
> 
> Hanspeter’s change doesn’t affect the fact that the Octave packing does not 
> yet recognize the fig2dev package as an acceptable choice.  That’ll have to 
> happen as well.
> 
> If you want to try that locally, edit 
> /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/finkinfo/sci/octave-3.8.2.info 
> <http://octave-3.8.2.info/> and change "transfig-graphicx | transfig-epsfig,” 
> to “fig2dev | transfig-graphicx | transfig-epsfig,” in the RuntimeDepends: 
> line.  Then use “fink rebuild” to rebuild your preferred Octave variant with 
> the new dependency option.
> 
> -- 
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> Fink User Liaison

I just updated octave-3.8.2 and octave-3.6.4 to allow the use of an appropriate 
version of fig2dev.  A selfupdate should make that available to you soon.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Problem installing xfig

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 05:43, Mike Wilkes  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, Hanspeter. I had removed octave in order to install xfig because 
> of the conflict between fig2dev and transfig. (I then found that there is an 
> X11 problem running the new xfig.)  After receiving your email, I decided to 
> reinstall octave. During the reinstall, xfig was removed. Octave installed 
> just fine, with transfig-graphicx. I then tried to install xfig again, but 
> the error conflict of fig2dev with transfig-graphicx appears to still be 
> there:
> 
> MacBook-Pro:CLASSICAL_MECHANICS Mike$ fink install xfig
> Information about 10196 packages read in 1 seconds.
> The following package will be installed or updated:
>  xfig
> The following additional package will be installed:
>  fig2dev
> Default answer will be chosen in 60 seconds...
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
> Reading buildlock packages...
> /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -i 
> /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/fig2dev_3.2.6-2_darwin-x86%5f64.deb 
> /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/sci/octave382-atlas-qtx11_3.8.2-10_darwin-x86_64.deb
> dpkg: considering removing transfig-graphicx in favour of fig2dev ...
> dpkg: no, cannot remove transfig-graphicx (--auto-deconfigure will help):
>  octave382-atlas-qtx11 depends on transfig-graphicx | transfig-epsfig
>   transfig-graphicx is to be removed.
>   transfig-epsfig is not installed.
> dpkg: regarding .../fig2dev_3.2.6-2_darwin-x86%5f64.deb containing fig2dev:
>  fig2dev conflicts with transfig-graphicx
>   transfig-graphicx (version 3.2.5d-1015) is installed.
> /sw/bin/dpkg: error processing 
> /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/fig2dev_3.2.6-2_darwin-x86%5f64.deb (--install):
>  conflicting packages - not installing fig2dev
> (Reading database ... 191030 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace octave382-atlas-qtx11 3.8.2-10 (using 
> .../octave382-atlas-qtx11_3.8.2-10_darwin-x86_64.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement octave382-atlas-qtx11 ...
> Setting up octave382-atlas-qtx11 (3.8.2-10) ...
> 
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/fig2dev_3.2.6-2_darwin-x86%5f64.deb
> ### execution of /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait failed, exit code 1
> Failed: can't batch-install packages: 
> /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/fig2dev_3.2.6-2_darwin-x86%5f64.deb 
> /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/sci/octave382-atlas-qtx11_3.8.2-10_darwin-x86_64.deb
> 
> Have I misunderstood, or missed doing something?  I do notice that I have a 
> fig2dev in /sw/bin from yesterday, but fink doesn't show fig2dev as an 
> installed package.
> 
> 

"dpkg -S /sw/bin/fig2dev”  will tell you where it came from.

Hanspeter’s change doesn’t affect the fact that the Octave packing does not yet 
recognize the fig2dev package as an acceptable choice.  That’ll have to happen 
as well.

If you want to try that locally, edit 
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/finkinfo/sci/octave-3.8.2.info and change 
"transfig-graphicx | transfig-epsfig,” to “fig2dev | transfig-graphicx | 
transfig-epsfig,” in the RuntimeDepends: line.  Then use “fink rebuild” to 
rebuild your preferred Octave variant with the new dependency option.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] xfig startup error with display

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 16, 2016, at 06:32, Mike Wilkes  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alexander.  I tacked this on as a reply to my earlier problem with the 
> conflict between xfig and octave, but you may not have seen it.  xfig 
> installed fine after removing octave, but then immediately upon trying to 
> start it I get
> 
> Error: Couldn't find per display information
> 
> I have XAPPLRESDIR="/sw/etc/app-defaults/" set up, so I am not sure what the 
> problem with the display is now. I am running XQuartz 2.7.8, which used to 
> run the previous xfig just fine, and runs nedit and gv OK as it stands now.

The issue is Fink’s libxt package.  We didn’t discover this initially, but xfig 
and some other packages don’t run when that is in place.  In your case the 
issue may be even more severe, since you’re mixing the flat_namespace libXt 
from your version of XQuartz with our non-flat version.

We’ve got a workaround available for right now, which is to download xfig.info 
along with the various libxaw3dxft* .info and .patch files, to your 
/sw/fink/dists/local/main/finkinfo .  These have been updated to force 
Xquartz-2.7.11, however, because when they go into release we want consistent 
builds for everybody.

An alternative option if you don’t want to update XQuartz would be:

1) copy /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/finkinfo/sci/xfig.info and 
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/finkinfo/x11/libxaw3dxft* into 
/sw/fink/dists/local/main/finkinfo
2) Edit the .info files.
3) Bump the Revision by .1 
4) Remove libxt and libxt-shlibs from the dependencies.
5) Add BuildConflicts: libxt, libxt-flat to both package descriptions.

You’ll then have a consistent tree based on libXt from XQuartz-2.7.8.  The 
downside is that we don’t really have a good option to maintain build 
consistency and not force an XQuartz update, so you wouldn’t be able to install 
future official updates to those packages.


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Re: [Fink-beginners] Problem installing xfig

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 15, 2016, at 05:07, Mike Wilkes  wrote:
> 
> Here is what happens when I try an install of xfig after selfupdating to fink 
> 0.41.1:
> 
> MacBook-Pro:~ Mike$ fink install xfig
> Information about 10196 packages read in 1 seconds.
> The following package will be installed or updated:
>  xfig
> The following additional package will be installed:
>  fig2dev
> Default answer will be chosen in 60 seconds...
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
> Reading buildlock packages...
> /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -i 
> /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/fig2dev_3.2.6-1_darwin-x86%5f64.deb 
> /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/octave382-atlas-qtx11_3.8.2-10_darwin-x86%5f64.deb
> dpkg: considering removing transfig-graphicx in favour of fig2dev ...
> dpkg: no, cannot remove transfig-graphicx (--auto-deconfigure will help):
>  octave382-atlas-qtx11 depends on transfig-graphicx | transfig-epsfig
>   transfig-graphicx is to be removed.
>   transfig-epsfig is not installed.
> dpkg: regarding .../fig2dev_3.2.6-1_darwin-x86%5f64.deb containing fig2dev:
>  fig2dev conflicts with transfig-graphicx
>   transfig-graphicx (version 3.2.5d-1014) is installed.
> /sw/bin/dpkg: error processing 
> /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/fig2dev_3.2.6-1_darwin-x86%5f64.deb (--install):
>  conflicting packages - not installing fig2dev
> (Reading database ... 175123 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace octave382-atlas-qtx11 3.8.2-10 (using 
> .../octave382-atlas-qtx11_3.8.2-10_darwin-x86%5f64.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement octave382-atlas-qtx11 ...
> Setting up octave382-atlas-qtx11 (3.8.2-10) ...
> 
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/fig2dev_3.2.6-1_darwin-x86%5f64.deb
> ### execution of /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait failed, exit code 1
> Failed: can't batch-install packages: 
> /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/fig2dev_3.2.6-1_darwin-x86%5f64.deb 
> /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/octave382-atlas-qtx11_3.8.2-10_darwin-x86%5f64.deb
> 
> I recently installed Octave, which required package transfig-graphicx, as I 
> recall...this now seems to conflict with xfig's requirement for fig2dev?  I 
> dunno.  Thanks for your help.
> ———

(CC’ing the listed fig2dev maintainer)

My understanding is that fig2dev has replaced transfig for xfig-3.2.6.  It 
doesn’t build a “transfig” executable by default, though.  I just updated 
transfig* to conflict properly with fig2dev.  

For right now, you won’t be able to have fig2dev + xfig and transfig-graphicx + 
octave* installed simultaneously.   If Octave will get along with fig2dev 
(which might require enabling the legacy transfig executable in the fig2dev 
build) then we can get rid of this problem.

Sorry about the hitch there.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] xfig - cannot type in file open/save fields

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 7, 2016, at 09:00, Alexander Hansen  
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Nov 5, 2016, at 05:33, Christoph Bruder  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> xfig 3.2.6 lets me draw a figure, but when I click e.g. the "save as"
>> window I cannot type into the field "Filename" (and similar fields).
>> 
>> 
>> fink --version
>> Package manager version: 0.41.0
>> Distribution version: selfupdate-rsync Sat Nov  5 12:01:14 2016, 10.9,
>> x86_64
>> Trees: local/main stable/main
>> 
>> XQuartz 2.7.11 (xorg-server 1.18.4)
>> 
>> Many thanks for your help!
>> 
>> Christoph
>> 
> 
> Confirmed here.  We’ll need to figure this out.
> 
> -- 
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> Fink User Liaison

Before anybody chimes in, this appears to be not directly related to the issues 
that we’ve been having with libXt, since I see the same thing using test 
packaging that forces XQuartz’s libXt.  

And before anybody chimes in about Macports, they’re using an older version of 
Xfig, as is Homebrew.

I’ve got a slightly unpleasant workaround for the time being, however:

1)  Type your filename into another window, like a Terminal window, select, and 
copy it.
2)  Option-click or middle-click in the Filename field, and your file name will 
be pasted in.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] xfig - cannot type in file open/save fields

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 5, 2016, at 05:33, Christoph Bruder  wrote:
> 
> xfig 3.2.6 lets me draw a figure, but when I click e.g. the "save as"
> window I cannot type into the field "Filename" (and similar fields).
> 
> 
> fink --version
> Package manager version: 0.41.0
> Distribution version: selfupdate-rsync Sat Nov  5 12:01:14 2016, 10.9,
> x86_64
> Trees: local/main stable/main
> 
> XQuartz 2.7.11 (xorg-server 1.18.4)
> 
> Many thanks for your help!
> 
> Christoph
> 

Confirmed here.  We’ll need to figure this out.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] libpng incompletely updated?

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 3, 2016, at 04:35, PHILLIP SMITH  wrote:
> 
> I’m curious.  libpng recently updated from 1.6.25 to 1.6.26.  However, the 
> virtual package remained at 1.6.25
> 
> Not a big deal, obviously, but unexpected.
> 
> smithp01-MB-19> fink list png
> Information about 9894 packages read in 5 seconds.
> bmp2png   1.62-3   BMP to PNG graphics file conversion
> cran-png-r31  0.1-7-1  Read and write PNG images
> cran-png-r32  0.1-7-1  Read and write PNG images
> cran-png-r33  0.1-7-1  Read and write PNG images
> gif2png   2.5.11-1 GIF to PNG graphics file conversion
> libglpng1 1.45-3   PNG loader library for OpenGL
> libglpng1-shlibs  1.45-3   Shared libraries for libglpng1 
> package
> i   libpng16  1.6.26-1 PNG image format handling library
> libpng16-32bit1.6.26-1 PNG library (32-bit)
> libpng16-32bit-shlib  1.6.26-1 Shared libraries for libpng16 
> package
> i   libpng16-shlibs   1.6.26-1 Shared libraries for libpng16 
> package
> libzopflipng1 1.0.1-1  High quality DEFLATE compressor
> libzopflipng1-shlibs  1.0.1-1  High quality DEFLATE compressor
> optipng   0.7.6-1  Optimizer for PNG files
> pngcrush  1.8.8-1  Optimizer for PNG files
> pngnq 1.1-2PNG Quantizer Tool
> pngquant  2.7.2-1  Utility for lossy compression of 
> png
> i   system-pkgconfig-cai  1.14.6-1 [virtual pkgconfig package 
> representing cairo-png]
> i   system-pkgconfig-lib  1.6.25-1 [virtual pkgconfig package 
> representing libpng]
> i   system-pkgconfig-lib  1.6.25-1 [virtual pkgconfig package 
> representing libpng16]
> web2png   2.5.11-1 Batch-converts entire web-pages 
> with gif2png
> smithp01-MB-20>

The system-pkgconfig-libpng* virtual packages are actually completely 
independent of Fink’s libpng*.  They represent the version of libpng that you 
get from XQuartz—we don’t actually use XQuartz’s libpng ever, but we have the 
virtual packages for completeness:

$ fink info system-pkgconfig-libpng
Scanning package description files..
Information about 9932 packages read in 2 seconds.

system-pkgconfig-libpng-1.6.26-1: [virtual pkgconfig package representing 
libpng]
 Loads and saves PNG files
 .
 This package represents the pkgconfig file found at:
/usr/X11/lib/pkgconfig/libpng.pc

$ fink info system-pkgconfig-libpng16
Scanning package description files..
Information about 9932 packages read in 1 seconds.

system-pkgconfig-libpng16-1.6.26-1: [virtual pkgconfig package representing 
libpng16]
 Loads and saves PNG files
 .
 This package represents the pkgconfig file found at:
/usr/X11/lib/pkgconfig/libpng16.pc

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Failed: phase compiling: libmagickcore6.9

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Oct 29, 2016, at 17:07, Heinz Nabielek  wrote:
> 
> I am now ending up with the lines below. Good or bad?
> Heinz
> 
> ...
> (Reading database ... 198341 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace openmotif4 2.3.4-12 (using 
> .../openmotif4_2.3.4-13_darwin-x86_64.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement openmotif4 ...
> Preparing to replace openmotif4-shlibs 2.3.4-12 (using 
> .../openmotif4-shlibs_2.3.4-13_darwin-x86_64.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement openmotif4-shlibs ...
> Setting up openmotif4-shlibs (2.3.4-13) ...
> 
> Setting up openmotif4 (2.3.4-13) ...
> Clearing dependency_libs of .la files being installed
> 
> The following packages must be temporarily removed, but there are no .debs to 
> restore them from:
>  lua53-dev

That’s fairly common, especially if .deb files get deleted manually.  Use “fink 
build lua53-dev” and you will have an appropriate .deb.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Installing Octave, failed dependencies with Transfig-graphicx

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> On Oct 27, 2016, at 13:53, Mike Wilkes  wrote:
> 
> Thanks again, Alexander, transfig-graphicx installed just fine with apt-get. 
> Onward and upward with Octave...I hope. Do you have a preference for one 
> version over another?
> 

Nope. :-)

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Installing Octave, failed dependencies with Transfig-graphicx

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> On Oct 27, 2016, at 13:29, Mike Wilkes  wrote:
> 
> The build asked to install llvm-gcc42 llvm-gcc42-shlibs xmkmf which I 
> accepted, and it proceeded to the end with 
> 
> Removing fink-buildlock-transfig-graphicx-3.2.5d-1014 ...
> Updating the list of locally available binary packages.
> Scanning dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64
> New package: 
> dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/devel/xmkmf_1.0.6-1304_darwin-x86_64.deb
> New package: 
> dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/graphics/transfig-graphicx_3.2.5d-1014_darwin-x86_64.deb
> Downloading the indexes of available packages in the binary distribution.
> /sw/bin/apt-get-lockwait -q update
> Get:1 http://bindist.finkmirrors.net stable/main Packages [1173kB]
> Get:2 http://bindist.finkmirrors.net stable/main Release [85B]
> Fetched 1173kB in 1s (683kB/s)
> Reading Package Lists...
> Building Dependency Tree...
> 
> Did this create a binary transfig-graphicx? Should I go back to trying to 
> install Octave at this point?  Or is it time for "apt-get"?
> 

I’d start by trying to install transfig-graphicx via apt-get; just use “sudo 
apt-get install transfig-graphicx” and don’t worry about the versioning.
apt-get is a bit better about being able to do recursive removals than fink, 
and so you might see messages about potential package removals that you weren’t 
seeing earlier.

If transfig-graphicx installs, then at that point you’re probably OK to 
continue on to Octave.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Installing Octave, failed dependencies with Transfig-graphicx

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Oct 27, 2016, at 09:32, Mike Wilkes  wrote:
> 
> So the "apt-get" looks for a binary of it?  Here is the output from an 
> install attempt of transfig-graphicx:
> 
> MacBook-Pro:~ Mike$ fink install transfig-graphicx
> Password:
> Information about 10165 packages read in 2 seconds.
> The following package will be installed or updated:
>  transfig-graphicx
> Reading buildlock packages...
> Could not resolve inconsistent dependencies!
> 
> Fink isn't sure how to install the above packages safely. You may be able to 
> fix things by running:
> 
>   fink scanpackages
>   sudo apt-get update
>   sudo apt-get install transfig-graphicx=3.2.5d-1014
> 
> Failed: Fink::SysState: Could not resolve inconsistent dependencies
> MacBook-Pro:~ Mike$ 
> 
> Any help?
> 

Drat.  It’s my least favorite “inconsistent dependencies” mode, where there 
isn’t any output.  What happens if you try “fink build transfig-graphicx” to 
attempt to separate build from install issues?

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Installing Octave, failed dependencies with Transfig-graphicx

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Oct 27, 2016, at 05:52, Mike Wilkes  wrote:
> 
> Continuing the attempt to install Octave 3.8.2-10.
> 
> I seem to have found the right "system-java" from Apple's website, thanks to 
> the tip from Ben Abbott. 
> 
> The compile of octave-atlas-qtx11 now fails at the attempt to install 
> transfig-graphicx 3.2.5d-1014, with inconsistent dependencies. It is 
> suggested to "fink scanpackages",  "sudo apt-get update", and "sudo apt-get 
> install transfig-graphicx 3.2.5d-1014", but this returns with "E: Version 
> '3.2.5d-1014' for 'transig-graphicx' was not found".
> 

Those instructions presume that either there is a binary distribution version 
of the package or a local one.  You have neither as of yet:

http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/package.php/transfig-graphicx


> If I try to do a "fink install transfig-graphicx ", I get "could not resolve 
> inconsistent dependencies".
> 
> I am running OS 10.10.5, with fink 0.40.0.
> 
> Any ideas?  Should I be trying to install a different version of Octave, like 
> octave-atlas-x11-qtx11, or maybe just octave-atlas, or something else from 
> fink?
> 
> By the way, I seem to have xfig installed, which I thought required 
> transfig-graphicx, so I am puzzled by how it could be working without 
> transfig. 

Nope:

Fionna-4:~ hansen$ fink show-deps xfig
Scanning package description files..
Information about 9929 packages read in 1 seconds.

Package: xfig (3.2.6-1)
To install the compiled package...
  The following other packages (and their dependencies) must be installed:
app-defaults
fig2dev (>= 3.2.6)
libjpeg-bin
libjpeg9-shlibs (>= 9-3)
libpng16-shlibs
libxaw3dxft-shlibs
netpbm-bin
x-ghostscript-fonts
x11
x11-shlibs
  The following other packages must not be installed:
[none]
To compile this package from source...
  The following packages are also compiled at the same time:
[none]
  The following other packages (and their dependencies) must be installed:
app-defaults
fig2dev (>= 3.2.6)
fink (>= 0.32)
fink-package-precedence
flag-sort
fontconfig2-dev (>= 2.10.0-1)
freetype219 (>= 2.4.11-1)
libjpeg-bin
libjpeg9 (>= 9-3)
libjpeg9-shlibs (>= 9-3)
libpng16
libpng16-shlibs
libxaw3dxft
libxaw3dxft-shlibs
netpbm-bin
x-ghostscript-fonts
x11
x11-dev
x11-shlibs
xft2-dev (>= 2.2.0-1)
xz
  The following other packages must not be installed:
[none]

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Every variant of Octave has the same transfig dependency so that won’t help.

We currently have literally no way to know what you have on your system which 
is causing inconsistent dependencies.  Also, it is fairly common that this 
scenario gets set up by users accidentally picking incompatible choices in the 
build chain.

Can you provide the full output of an attempt at “fink install 
transfig-graphicx” ?
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Re: [Fink-beginners] [Fink-users] Apple claims fink giving false warning (Bug ID 28356077 - Xcode 8 installs on El Capitan.)

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> On Oct 14, 2016, at 05:57, John Wiggins  wrote:
> 
> While running El Capitan, and after updating to Xcode 8, I could not run fink 
> because I get warning;
> WARNING: Xcode.app version (8.0) and Xcode Command Line Tools version (7.3) 
> are not compatible.
> 
> Apple claims this is false warning with fink
> 
> Apple Closed my Bug saying that the CLI works, and that the issue is with 
> fink.
> If this is not the case, please let them know.  I do not a system to test CLI 
> as I am now on Sierra on my machines.
> 
> at
> https://bugreport.apple.com/problem/viewproblem 
> <https://bugreport.apple.com/problem/viewproblem>
> Bug ID 28356077 - Xcode 8 installs on El Capitan.
> 
> 
> Apple Developer Relations   13-Oct-2016 05:13 PM
> Engineering has provided the following information regarding this issue:
> 
> Please know that there is not incompatibility.  You should report the issue 
> to fink and request that fink remove the incorrect warning.
> 
> 
> 
> Here is my bug report:
> Summary:
> The App Store allows installation of Xcode 8 on El Capitan system resulting 
> in incompatible Command Line Tools.  One cannot install  
> Command_Line_Tools_macOS_10.12_for_Xcode_8
> 
> Steps to Reproduce:
> 1. install Xcode 8 on El Capitan system from App Store.
> 
> Expected Results:
> compilation from Command Line.
> 
> Actual Results:
> WARNING: Xcode.app version (8.0) and Xcode Command Line Tools version (7.3)
> are not compatible.
> You may experience build errors.
> 
> Version:
> Xcode 8.0  (8A218a)
> 
> Notes:
> Installer should prevent installation, or bring up dialog explaining 
> incompatible Command Line Tools (and others) will result if installation 
> continues.
> 
> Configuration:
> MacOS El Capitan 10.11.6
> 
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(crossposting since this is now all over the place)

They may be right.  Here’s the deal:

1)  Historically, people had problems with some builds when the Xcode app and 
the CLI were incompatible. 
2)  We therefore had fink check the versions and display a warning which paused 
the build for 10 seconds to let people know to sync their versions before 
filing a bug report with us.
3)  Apple decided that Xcode 8 and CLI tools 7.3.1 is an OK combination for 
10.11.
4)  We modified fink not to pause the build and to change the wording of the 
message slightly to indicate that unmatched Xcode and command-line tools is a 
_potential_ problem, since it has been, in general.  
5)  However, we didn’t add anything to suppress this message for the 
aforementioned special case, because handling special cases adds complexity to 
the fink code, and because it’s not usually required to scroll back through the 
build logs unless the build fails.  

People who don’t want to see the warning are free to modify 
/sw/lib/perl5/Fink/Engine.pm for themselves.
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Xcode 8 and command line tools

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Oct 12, 2016, at 08:56, John Wiggins  wrote:
> 
> My experience was I needed to update to MacOS 10.12 (Sierra) before Xcode 8 
> had the new set of Command Line Tools.
> (you may need to reinstall Xcode 8 after OS update, but I am not sure.  I 
> tried to open bug with Apple for allowing upgrade to Xcode 8 on El Capitan 
> without a warning about the CLTs)
> 
> jw

It’s either intentional or they just forgot about it and we now have to live 
with it.  
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Xcode 8 and command line tools

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Oct 8, 2016, at 10:37, Marc Boxerman  wrote:
> 
> I upgraded to Xcode 8 on a machine running El Capitan.  It does not appear 
> that Apple released an updated set of command line tools for the newest 
> version of Xcode, at least not for OS X 10.11.  The mismatch in versions 
> between Xcode and the command line tools is causing build failures.  Should I 
> downgrade to Xcode 7 or is there a newer version of command line tools out 
> there?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Marc


My understanding is that the official position from Apple is that Xcode 8 + the 
Xcode 7.3.1 command tools should work.  

If you could report the build failures here, (different threads for each 
package, please) we should be able to fix the issues.  And if your version of 
“fink-package-precedence” isn’t up-to-date, that may be indirectly responsible 
for some of the issues—Apple changed the behavior of the “otool” executable.  
But we’d definitely appreciate any bug reports before you update 
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Short Status report macOS 10.12: Everything seems to work

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Sep 26, 2016, at 16:05, John Wiggins  wrote:
> 
> Alexander,
> 
> Since Heinz (offline) reports seeing the same error, I don’t see point in 
> doing fresh install (unless you request again).
> 
> I just did a 
>   fink remove emacs23 and  and 
>   
>   fink install emacs23 2>&1 | tee install_26sep16.emacs23 2>&1
> 

fink has flags to allow you to log builds, too.

> shows the same error as before.  Since the file is only 429 kb I send the 
> whole thing after
>   /usr/bin/compress install_26sep16.emacs23
> and you should be able to see it with the corresponding uncompress command
>   /usr/bin/uncompress install_26sep16.emacs23
> 
> tks,
> jw

It’s better to send a small snippet to the mailing list rather than directly to 
me because  I know literally nothing about the emacs build process.  Somebody 
else may know about it better.

Here’s the failure:

...
`/bin/pwd`/temacs --batch --load loadup bootstrap
Loading loadup.el (source)...
Using load-path (/sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp 
/sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/emacs-lisp 
/sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/language 
/sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/international 
/sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/textmodes)
Loading emacs-lisp/byte-run...
Loading emacs-lisp/backquote...
Loading subr...
Loading version.el (source)...
Loading widget...
Loading custom...
Loading emacs-lisp/map-ynp...
Loading cus-start...
Loading international/mule...
Loading international/mule-conf...
Loading env...
Loading format...
Loading bindings...
Loading files...
Loading cus-face...
Loading faces...
Loading minibuffer...
Loading button...
Loading startup (compiled; note, source file is newer)...
Loading /sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/loaddefs.el 
(source)...
Loading abbrev...
Loading simple...
Loading help...
Loading jka-cmpr-hook...
Loading epa-hook...
Loading international/mule-cmds...
Loading case-table...
Loading international/characters...
Loading composite...
Loading 
/sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/international/charprop.el 
(source)...
Loading language/chinese...
Loading language/cyrillic...
Loading language/indian...
Loading /sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/language/sinhala.el 
(source)...
Loading /sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/language/english.el 
(source)...
Loading language/ethiopic...
Loading language/european...
Loading /sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/language/czech.el 
(source)...
Loading /sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/language/slovak.el 
(source)...
Loading /sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/language/romanian.el 
(source)...
Loading /sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/language/greek.el 
(source)...
Loading /sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/language/hebrew.el 
(source)...
Loading /sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/language/japanese.el 
(source)...
Loading 
/sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/international/cp51932.el 
(source)...
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(source)...
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(source)...
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(source)...
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(source)...
Loading language/tibetan...
Loading language/vietnamese...
Loading /sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/language/misc-lang.el 
(source)...
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/sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/language/utf-8-lang.el 
(source)...
Loading /sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/language/georgian.el 
(source)...
Loading /sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/language/khmer.el 
(source)...
Loading /sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/language/burmese.el 
(source)...
Loading /sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/language/cham.el 
(source)...
Loading indent...
Loading window...
Loading frame...
Loading term/tty-colors...
Loading font-core...
Loading facemenu...
Loading emacs-lisp/syntax...
Loading font-lock...
Loading jit-lock...
Loading mouse...
Loading scroll-bar...
Loading select...
Loading emacs-lisp/timer...
Loading isearch...
Loading rfn-eshadow...
Loading menu-bar...
Loading /sw/src/fink.build/emacs23-23.4-7/emacs-23.4/lisp/paths.el (source)...
Loading emacs-lisp/lisp...
Loading textmodes/page...
Loading register...
Loading textmodes/paragraphs...
Loading emacs-lisp/lisp-mode...
Loading textmodes/text-mode...
Loading textmodes/fill...
Loading replace...
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Loading image...
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Xcode 8? Re: Problems with reinstalling Fink

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Sep 26, 2016, at 13:41, John Wiggins  wrote:
> 
> Dear Alexander and others:
> 
> I have two machines on sierra, one updated (and is still running Xcode 7.3 
> with corresponding CLI tools, and it updated alright (but emacs did not need 
> to be recompiled).
> 
> The other machine with sierra was upgraded to Xcode 8.0 and it fails to 
> compile emacs (even with explicit install of Xcode CLI Tools).  Does the 
> current fink work with Xcode 8?  I have not seen anything on this and it 
> could be my fault for updating Xcode on this machine.  (Perhaps my install 
> list needs to be changed for new environment?)
> 
> Q: Should I do a fresh new install or wait until fink has been tested with 
> Xcode 8?  My current fink /sw works, including emacs, so I could wait a while 
> until/if Xcode 8 needs to be verified.
> 
> (some of the compile failure shown below)
> 
> Thanks,
> jw

The current fink works with Xcode 8, even on 10.11, and is intended to work 
with 10.12.  There might be specific issues with the emacs compilation which 
haven’t been addressed.

I’d recommend against doing a fresh install and instead send us the output of a 
failed emacs build, starting just before the first error message and proceeding 
for a few lines after the error message.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Problems with reinstalling Fink

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Sep 22, 2016, at 22:22, James Coyle  wrote:
> 
> When trying to selfupdate, I received an instruction to reinstall Fink, but 
> that failed. Here’s the output. I’d appreciate instructions in how to proceed:
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Last login: Wed Sep 21 20:18:07 on console
> James-Coyle-iMac:~ jimcoyle$ fink selfupdate
> Password:
> Use 'fink reinstall fink' to switch distributions
> from 10.11 to 10.12.
> 'selfupdate' operation not permitted.
> James-Coyle-iMac:~ jimcoyle$ fink reinstall fink
> Use 'fink reinstall fink' to switch distributions
> from 10.11 to 10.12.
> Information about 9830 packages read in 39 seconds.
> WARNING: your info file index has not been updated for 16 days. You should run
> 'fink selfupdate' to get the latest package descriptions.
> The following package will be reinstalled:
>  fink
> Reading buildlock packages...
> /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -i 
> /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/base/fink_0.39.5-101_darwin-x86_64.deb
> (Reading database ... 19103 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace fink 0.39.5-101 (using 
> .../fink_0.39.5-101_darwin-x86_64.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement fink ...
> Setting up fink (0.39.5-101) ...
> Checking system... i386-apple-darwin16.0.0
> Use of uninitialized value $gcc in regexp compilation at 
> /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/Services.pm line 1364.
> Use of uninitialized value $gcc in concatenation (.) or string at 
> /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/Bootstrap.pm line 164.
> This system was not released at the time this Fink release was made. 
> Prerelease versions of Mac OS X might work with Fink, but there are no
> guarantees.
> Use of uninitialized value $distroot in string eq at 
> /sw/lib/fink/postinstall.pl line 164.
> Use of uninitialized value $distroot in concatenation (.) or string at 
> /sw/lib/fink/postinstall.pl line 196.
> ln -s  /sw/fink/10.12
> Use of uninitialized value $distroot in concatenation (.) or string at 
> /sw/lib/fink/postinstall.pl line 203.
> ln -s 10.12 /sw/fink/dists
> Use of uninitialized value $selfupdatetree in concatenation (.) or string at 
> /sw/lib/fink/postinstall.pl line 236.
> /bin/mkdir -p /sw/fink/dists/local/injected/finkinfo/update-packages
> mkdir: /sw/fink/dists/local/injected/finkinfo/update-packages: Not a directory
> ### execution of /bin/mkdir failed, exit code 1
> ERROR: couldn't create directory 
> /sw/fink/dists/local/injected/finkinfo/update-packages
> /sw/bin/dpkg: error processing fink (--install):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  fink
> ### execution of /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait failed, exit code 1
> Failed: can't install package fink-0.39.5-101
> James-Coyle-iMac:~ jimcoyle$ fink cleanup --deb
> Scanning package description files
> Failed: not a reference at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/Services.pm line 1903.
> James-Coyle-iMac:~ jimcoyle$ fink reinstall fink
> Scanning package description files
> not a reference at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/Services.pm line 1903.
> James-Coyle-iMac:~ jimcoyle$ 
> 
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You didn’t mention the essential point, which is that you updated to Sierra 
before installing a fink which actually supports it—that’s why it broke.  The 
reverse operation is what you’d want:  selfupdate to a fink that supports 
Sierra, update the OS, and use “fink reinstall fink” to point fink at the 
proper distribution.

There’s a quick fix, fortunately.  Manually download 
http://bindist.finkproject.org/10.12/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/base/fink_0.41.0-111_darwin-x86_64.deb,
 which is the initial fink release for Sierra, and use “sudo dpkg -i 
/path/to/fink_0.41.0-111_darwin-x86_64.deb” (replacing /path/to with the actual 
location) to install it.  The install process should reset the distribution for 
you.

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[Fink-beginners] Fwd: source install

[Alexander Hansen]

Closing out this thread.

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Gregory Basile 
> Subject: Re: [Fink-beginners] source install
> Date: September 15, 2016 at 13:23:57 PDT
> To: Alexander Hansen 
> 
> Thanks Alexander,
> The new script worked fine.
> 
> Greg
> 
> On Sep 10, 2016, at 08:31 AM, Alexander Hansen  
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 00:08, Gregory Basile  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Alexander,
>>> 
>>> I got the helper script from 
>>> http://www.finkproject.org/download/srcdist.php 
>>> <http://www.finkproject.org/download/srcdist.php>.
>>> When I ran it I got as far as first install phase when I got the following 
>>> error.
>>> I tried to run fink self update. I did not know from which directory to run 
>>> “fink self update”. It would not run from the directory ~ i was working in.
>>> 
>>> Any help would be appreciated
>>> 
>> 
>> The text mentioning fink selfupdate doesn’t actually apply in this failure 
>> mode—it’s for package build failures which occur once you actually have Fink 
>> set up properly. It just happens to show up for any build failure.
>> 
>>> WARNING: Don't call install.sh directly, use inject.pl instead.
>>> 
>>> You have been warned.
>>> 
>>> ### execution of ./install.sh failed, exit code 1
>>> 
>>> phase installing: base-files-1.9.17-1 failed
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Before reporting any errors, please run "fink selfupdate" and try again.
>>> 
>>> Also try using "fink configure" to set your maximum build jobs to 1 and
>>> 
>>> attempt to build the package again.
>>> 
>>> If you continue to have issues, please check to see if the FAQ on Fink's
>>> 
>>> website solves the problem. If not, ask on one (not both, please) of
>>> 
>>> these mailing lists:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Fink Users List 
>>> 
>>> The Fink Beginners List .
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please try to include the complete error message in your report. This
>>> 
>>> generally consists of a compiler line starting with e.g. "gcc" or "g++"
>>> 
>>> followed by the actual error output from the compiler.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Also include the following system information:
>>> 
>>> Package manager version: 0.39.3
>>> 
>>> Distribution version: selfupdate-point (bootstrap), 10.11, x86_64
>>> 
>>> Trees: local/main stable/main
>>> 
>>> Xcode.app: 7.3.1
>>> 
>>> Xcode command-line tools: 7.3.1.0.1.1461711523
>>> 
>>> Max. Fink build jobs: 4
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> In general, with build failures, the beginning of the output is way more 
>> important than the end. All I can tell from what you sent is that install.sh 
>> was called. There’s absolutely no context as to why it was called or 
>> anything else that was going on. Send me a log off list.
>> 
>> Also, you might try a newer version of the Install Fink.tool script. I just 
>> updated it yesterday.
>> 
>> -- 
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>> Fink User Liaison
>> 

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Mac OS X 10.12 cannot selfupdate any more

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Sep 11, 2016, at 05:38, Alexander Hansen  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 23:18, Heinz Nabielek  wrote:
>> 
>> Ouch: Mac OS X 10.12 Sierra cannot 'selfupdate' any more (see below). Nor 
>> can I install anything with fink since 10.12.
>> What shall I do?
>> 
>> Heinz
>> 
>> Heinzs-iMac:~ heinznabielek$ fink selfupdate
>> Password:
>> /usr/bin/rsync -az -q  
>> rsync://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/finkinfo//TIMESTAMP 
>> /sw/fink/TIMESTAMP.tmp
>> I will now run the rsync command to retrieve the latest package 
>> descriptions. 
>> /usr/bin/rsync -rtz --delete-after --delete -q   --include='10.12/' 
>> --include='10.12/stable/' --include='10.12/stable/main/' 
>> --include='10.12/stable/main/finkinfo/' 
>> --include='10.12/stable/main/finkinfo/*/' 
>> --include='10.12/stable/main/finkinfo/*' 
>> --include='10.12/stable/main/finkinfo/**/*' --include='VERSION' 
>> --include='DISTRIBUTION' --include='README' --exclude='**' 
>> 'rsync://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/finkinfo' '/sw/fink/'
>> WARNING: Not saving timestamp of selfupdate because could not write 
>> /sw/fink/10.12/VERSION.selfupdate.tmp: No such file or directory
>> Scanning package description files
>> Failed: not a reference at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/Services.pm line 1903.
>> 
>> 
>> Darwin Heinzs-iMac.local 16.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 16.0.0: Mon Aug 29 
>> 17:56:20 PDT 2016; root:xnu-3789.1.32~3/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
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> 
> This is a standard problem when updating the OS before installing a fink 
> version that supports it.
> 
> I can send you an archive containing the changed files from the fink code, 
> but it will take a bit of time.
> 
> -- 
> Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
> Fink User Liaison
> 

There are some subtleties to this that I hadn’t anticipated.  If somebody sends 
you a fink .deb archive from 10.12, you can use “dpkg -i 
/path/to/fink-.deb” to install that.  I’m in the process of getting a 
10.12 machine set up, but that’s going to take a little while.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Mac OS X 10.12 cannot selfupdate any more

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Sep 10, 2016, at 23:18, Heinz Nabielek  wrote:
> 
> Ouch: Mac OS X 10.12 Sierra cannot 'selfupdate' any more (see below). Nor can 
> I install anything with fink since 10.12.
> What shall I do?
> 
> Heinz
> 
> Heinzs-iMac:~ heinznabielek$ fink selfupdate
> Password:
> /usr/bin/rsync -az -q  
> rsync://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/finkinfo//TIMESTAMP 
> /sw/fink/TIMESTAMP.tmp
> I will now run the rsync command to retrieve the latest package descriptions. 
> /usr/bin/rsync -rtz --delete-after --delete -q   --include='10.12/' 
> --include='10.12/stable/' --include='10.12/stable/main/' 
> --include='10.12/stable/main/finkinfo/' 
> --include='10.12/stable/main/finkinfo/*/' 
> --include='10.12/stable/main/finkinfo/*' 
> --include='10.12/stable/main/finkinfo/**/*' --include='VERSION' 
> --include='DISTRIBUTION' --include='README' --exclude='**' 
> 'rsync://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/finkinfo' '/sw/fink/'
> WARNING: Not saving timestamp of selfupdate because could not write 
> /sw/fink/10.12/VERSION.selfupdate.tmp: No such file or directory
> Scanning package description files
> Failed: not a reference at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/Services.pm line 1903.
> 
> 
> Darwin Heinzs-iMac.local 16.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 16.0.0: Mon Aug 29 
> 17:56:20 PDT 2016; root:xnu-3789.1.32~3/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
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This is a standard problem when updating the OS before installing a fink 
version that supports it.

I can send you an archive containing the changed files from the fink code, but 
it will take a bit of time.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] source install

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Sep 10, 2016, at 00:08, Gregory Basile  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Alexander,
> 
> I got the helper script from http://www.finkproject.org/download/srcdist.php.
> When I ran it I got as far as first install phase when I got the following 
> error.
> I tried to run fink self update. I did not know from which directory to run 
> “fink self update”. It would not run from the directory ~ i was working in.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated
> 

The text mentioning fink selfupdate doesn’t actually apply in this failure 
mode—it’s for package build failures which occur once you actually have Fink 
set up properly.  It just happens to show up for any build failure.

> WARNING: Don't call install.sh directly, use inject.pl instead.
> 
>  You have been warned.
> 
> ### execution of ./install.sh failed, exit code 1
> 
> phase installing: base-files-1.9.17-1 failed
> 
>  
> Before reporting any errors, please run "fink selfupdate" and try again.
> 
> Also try using "fink configure" to set your maximum build jobs to 1 and
> 
> attempt to build the package again.
> 
> If you continue to have issues, please check to see if the FAQ on Fink's
> 
> website solves the problem.  If not, ask on one (not both, please) of
> 
> these mailing lists:
> 
>  
>  The Fink Users List 
> 
>  The Fink Beginners List .
> 
>  
> Please try to include the complete error message in your report.  This
> 
> generally consists of a compiler line starting with e.g. "gcc" or "g++"
> 
> followed by the actual error output from the compiler.
> 
>  
> Also include the following system information:
> 
> Package manager version: 0.39.3
> 
> Distribution version: selfupdate-point (bootstrap), 10.11, x86_64
> 
> Trees: local/main stable/main
> 
> Xcode.app: 7.3.1
> 
> Xcode command-line tools: 7.3.1.0.1.1461711523
> 
> Max. Fink build jobs:  4
> 
>  


In general, with build failures, the beginning of the output is way more 
important than the end.  All I can tell from what you sent is that install.sh 
was called.  There’s absolutely no context as to why it was called or anything 
else that was going on.  Send me a log off list.

Also, you might try a newer version of the Install Fink.tool script.  I just 
updated it yesterday.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] question about fink packages on upcoming sierra

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Sep 10, 2016, at 06:56, John Wiggins  wrote:
> 
> Dear Alexander and volunteers,
> 
> I notice there from 
>   http://www.finkproject.org/news/index.php?phpLang=en 
> <http://www.finkproject.org/news/index.php?phpLang=en>
> that there is a "github branch named sierra-alpha-bravo for 10.12 
> development”  
> and assume that the main fink project page at 
>   http://www.finkproject.org/index.php?phpLang=en 
> <http://www.finkproject.org/index.php?phpLang=en>
> would have an update once the fink application itself has been verified.  My 
> question involves individual packages.
> Before updating MacOS, do I need to examine each package I use for support, 
> e.g. a2ps at
>   http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/package.php/a2ps 
> <http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/package.php/a2ps>
> to see that it lists 10.12, or will there be list of tested/verified packages 
> page somewhere?
> 
> 
> Thanks for all your support and efforts on our behalf,
> jw
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We’re supporting in-place upgrades from 10.9-10.11 to 10.12, since generally 
programs and libraries don’t break when the OS is updated.  We’re essentially 
going to assume that our packages will continue to work on 10.12 unless we find 
out otherwise. The package database will get updated once a new release is out, 
but it will reflect this assumption.

If you want to hold off for a bit, now that the beta phase is winding down I’m 
planning to do a full fink release this weekend to support 10.9-10.12. With 
that you’ll be able to update to the new fink version, update OS X, and then 
use “fink reinstall fink” to point fink to the 10.12-specific packages.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Help from Fink expected

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Sep 9, 2016, at 10:02, Christian Duval  wrote:
> 
> Dear Alexander Hansen,
> 
> A great many thanks for your help a propos my problem with fink update-all 
> not running properly. 
> 
> I am really sorry to have involuntarily hurt you and your colleagues with 
> clumsy words; this wasn't intentional at all as you can imagine.

That’s OK.  I wanted to make sure that this was the case and that you weren’t 
the type of person who gets really angry when going through the support 
process. :-)

> 
> As to your suggestions, here is what I found.
> 
> 1) libtool2 is installed.
> 
> 2) The lines you mentioned in 
> /sw/src/fink.build/guile20-2.0.11-3/guile-2.0.11/build/config.log are as 
> follows for me
> 
> configure:43979: checking if libtool supports shared libraries
> configure:43981: result: yes
> configure:43984: checking whether to build shared libraries
> configure:44005: result: yes
> configure:44008: checking whether to build static libraries
> configure:44012: result: yes
> configure:44552: checking for libltdl
> configure:44574: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -I/sw/include  conftest.c  -L/sw/lib 
> -lltdl >&5
> conftest.c:616:10: fatal error: 'ltdl.h' file not found
> #include 
>  ^
> 1 error generated.
> configure:44574: $? = 1
> configure: failed program was:
> | /* confdefs.h */
> | #define PACKAGE_NAME "GNU Guile"
> 
> and show that something went wrong, which I absolutely don't understand 
> (being a real "fink-novice").
> 

ltdl.h should have been installed by “libtool2”.  

$ dpkg -L libtool2 | grep ltdl.h
/sw/include/ltdl.h
/sw/share/libtool/ltdl.h

Try running the above command on your system to make sure that fink’s database 
at least has those entries.  If not, then the libtool2 package wasn’t built 
correctly for some reason.  You can then try to repair it with “fink rebuild 
libtool2” and then check the database again.

If your output looks like mine, then verify that the files are actually present:

$ find /sw -name ltdl.h
/sw/include/ltdl.h
/sw/share/libtool/ltdl.h

If they aren’t present, then try restoring them with “fink reinstall libtool2” 
or “fink rebuild libtool2”.

> 3) The full output generated by fink update-all is not glorious; here it is
> 
> [macbook-pro-de-christian-duval:~] user% fink update-all 



> /tmp/fink.LiJ9V: line 2: /sw/sbin/fink-buildenv-helper.sh: No such file or 
> directory
> 



> Again, something was awry! 
> 
> I would be delighted if you could help in these circumstances. In any case, 
> my warmest thanks for everything.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Christian Duval
> 
> %— 

That’s odd.  The glew1.13-shlibs package has an explicit build dependency on 
fink-buildenv-modules, and that provides /sw/sbin/fink-buildenv-helper.sh .

Try running “fink rebuild fink-buildenv-modules”, then use

dpkg -L fink-buildenv-modules
ls -l /sw/sbin/fink-buildenv-helper.sh

to verify that it was installed.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] source install

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> On Sep 7, 2016, at 21:56, Gregory Basile  wrote:
> 
> I have a osx 10.11 mac that I have run the source install script. I am not 
> logged on a Root user but I am a Admin user.

When you say “the source install script”, what do you mean?  We’re not 
mind-readers so please indicate the *literal* command that you’re running.  

> I am attaching a word doc of the error I am getting. 

Please don’t send attachments to this list.  We prefer inline text because it’s 
easier to quote for context, and our volunteer support staff have to go to 
extra work to copy and paste it back.  In addition, sending it as a Word 
document adds a ton of overhead for a relatively small amount of content.  

> I am a Instructor at a Cisco Academy in Lake Balboa, Ca.
> 
> Can you give me a few suggestions. I do know some Linux but I am not that 
> great at it at this time.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> Thank You for your dedication to the Linux community.
> 
> 

Pedantic point:  OS X isn’t Linux.  

We’re dedicated to providing free and open-source software—a lot of which does 
come from Linux.

> 
> Gregory Basile
> gregorybas...@mac.com
> Birmingham Cisco Academy
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
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Quoting your entire message inline:

WARNING: Don't call install.sh directly, use inject.pl instead.
 You have been warned.
### execution of ./install.sh failed, exit code 1
phase installing: base-files-1.9.17-1 failed

Before reporting any errors, please run "fink selfupdate" and try again.
Also try using "fink configure" to set your maximum build jobs to 1 and
attempt to build the package again.
If you continue to have issues, please check to see if the FAQ on Fink's 
website solves the problem.  If not, ask on one (not both, please) of
these mailing lists:

The Fink Users List 
The Fink Beginners List .

Please try to include the complete error message in your report.  This
generally consists of a compiler line starting with e.g. "gcc" or "g++"
followed by the actual error output from the compiler.

Also include the following system information:
Package manager version: 0.39.3
Distribution version: selfupdate-point (bootstrap), 10.11, x86_64
Trees: local/main stable/main
Xcode.app: 7.3.1
Xcode command-line tools: 7.3.1.0.1.1461711523
Max. Fink build jobs:  4

WARNING: Don't call install.sh directly, use inject.pl instead.
 You have been warned.
### execution of ./install.sh failed, exit code 1
phase installing: base-files-1.9.17-1 failed

Before reporting any errors, please run "fink selfupdate" and try again.
Also try using "fink configure" to set your maximum build jobs to 1 and
attempt to build the package again.
If you continue to have issues, please check to see if the FAQ on Fink's 
website solves the problem.  If not, ask on one (not both, please) of
these mailing lists:

The Fink Users List 
The Fink Beginners List .

Please try to include the complete error message in your report.  This
generally consists of a compiler line starting with e.g. "gcc" or "g++"
followed by the actual error output from the compiler.

Also include the following system information:
Package manager version: 0.39.3
Distribution version: selfupdate-point (bootstrap), 10.11, x86_64
Trees: local/main stable/main
Xcode.app: 7.3.1
Xcode command-line tools: 7.3.1.0.1.1461711523
Max. Fink build jobs:  4


If you happen still to have the output from this attempt, please post at least 
some of what is above what you already posted (as plain text).  If not, try the 
command you ran again and post the output.  Please limit that to just the build 
for the “base-files” package, since we’ll presume that anything that happened 
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Help from Fink expected

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Sep 9, 2016, at 08:25, Alexander Hansen  
> wrote:
> 
> (“Expected” is definitely the wrong word to use when asking for help from 
> volunteer organizations like ours.  We don’t *owe* you any obligation.)
> 
>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 09:06, Christian Duval  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Madam/Sir,
>> 
>> Your help would be greatly appreciated since the command "fink update-all" 
>> repeatedly refuses to complete (OS X El Capitan).
> 
> A sane build system is _supposed_ to fail repeatedly in the _same_ way if you 
> don’t change anything.  If you have been running “fink selfupdate” between 
> attempts, you’ll be getting the same failure because you haven’t had changes.
> 
>> The culprit seems to be the package "guile20" which, for reasons I don't 
>> understand, stops the whole process. The installed package "guile18" looks 
>> OK, though.
> 
> 
> Possibly completely irrelevant.  Just because they are two different versions 
> of the same package doesn’t mean they have identical build procedures.
> 
>> 
>> I have appended Fink's error message as requested (should I forward the 
>> complete output generated by the command?).
>> 
>> Waiting for assistance, I remain
>> 
>> Yours truly,
>> 
>> Christian Duval
>> 
>> %---
>> 
>> configure: error: GNU libltdl (Libtool) not found, see README.
> 
> 
> 
> You removed the context for this error from above what you posted.  However, 
> check whether you have libtool2 installed (“fink list libtool2”).  If not, 
> install it.  If you do have that installed, then we’ll need to see more of 
> the output.
> 
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> 

I just took a look at the guile20 package description and libtool2 is a 
dependency, so it should be installed.

In addition to checking the output like Hanspeter suggested, you might also 
look at /sw/src/fink.build/guile20-2.0.11-3/guile-2.0.11/build/config.log at 
about line 33934.  My build has the following at that point:

configure:43979: checking if libtool supports shared libraries
configure:43981: result: yes
configure:43984: checking whether to build shared libraries
configure:44005: result: yes
configure:44008: checking whether to build static libraries
configure:44012: result: yes
configure:44552: checking for libltdl
configure:44574: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -I/sw/include  conftest.c  -L/sw/lib 
-lltdl >&5
configure:44574: $? = 0
configure:44584: result: yes
configure:44591: checking how to link with libltdl
configure:44593: result: -L/sw/lib -lltdl


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Re: [Fink-beginners] Help from Fink expected

[Alexander Hansen]

(“Expected” is definitely the wrong word to use when asking for help from 
volunteer organizations like ours.  We don’t *owe* you any obligation.)

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 09:06, Christian Duval  wrote:
> 
> Dear Madam/Sir,
> 
> Your help would be greatly appreciated since the command "fink update-all" 
> repeatedly refuses to complete (OS X El Capitan).

A sane build system is _supposed_ to fail repeatedly in the _same_ way if you 
don’t change anything.  If you have been running “fink selfupdate” between 
attempts, you’ll be getting the same failure because you haven’t had changes.

> The culprit seems to be the package "guile20" which, for reasons I don't 
> understand, stops the whole process. The installed package "guile18" looks 
> OK, though.


Possibly completely irrelevant.  Just because they are two different versions 
of the same package doesn’t mean they have identical build procedures.

> 
> I have appended Fink's error message as requested (should I forward the 
> complete output generated by the command?).
> 
> Waiting for assistance, I remain
> 
> Yours truly,
> 
> Christian Duval
> 
> %---
>  
> configure: error: GNU libltdl (Libtool) not found, see README.



You removed the context for this error from above what you posted.  However, 
check whether you have libtool2 installed (“fink list libtool2”).  If not, 
install it.  If you do have that installed, then we’ll need to see more of the 
output.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] update without removing old version

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> On Aug 10, 2016, at 10:11, Pietro Corvisiero  wrote:
> 
> Not both running at the same time! Either 4.6, or 5.0. Since I know that 
> there are differences between 4.6 and 5.0, before upgrading I want to be sure 
> that my 4.6 scripts are (nearly) compatible with 5.0..
> Piero
> 
> 
> 

It’s not ideal, but you can use "fink install gnuplot-4.6.7” when you need 
version 4.6.7, and Fink will automatically install that version, and then use 
“fink update gnuplot” to update back to the 5.x version.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] update without removing old version

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> On Aug 10, 2016, at 00:51, Pietro Corvisiero  wrote:
> 
> I wanto to install gnuplot5.0 without removing the older version gnuplot4.6 
> because I need to run both of them.
> Is it possible?
> Thanks!
> Piero Corvisiero

This isn’t currently possible.  Do you need to have both running at the same 
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Re: [Fink-beginners] infos to unlock fink self update on local firewall

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> n Aug 5, 2016, at 05:57, Patrone Marco  wrote:
> 
> Dear Sirs,
>  
> I’d like to use fink to compile some programs I use to work. My company sets 
> restrictions to web connections and our informatic safety dept. asks for the 
> followings for a safe unlocking:
>  
> the exact web address selfupdate connects to;
>  
> the port used for the connection;
>  
> many thanks and Best Regards,
> marco
> 

What IP address selfupdate connects with depends on your setup.  If you are 
using selfupdate via CVS, then the server is fink.cvs.sourcefore.net 
<http://fink.cvs.sourcefore.net/> , which currently resolves to 216.34.181.112. 
 If you are using rsync, then you would need to let us know which mirror you 
are using.

Which port is used, again, depends on your setup.  If you’re using CVS, then 
it’s the standard CVS port: 2401.  If you are using rsync, then it’s the 
standard rsync port:  873.  

We also support using CVS through a HTTP proxy.  

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Trying to use Mac OS X.4 in these days

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> On Jul 7, 2016, at 00:32, Stephane Ascoet  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, I saved an Apple PowerMac G5 from destruction. It runs Mac OS X.4. I 
> tried to remember how I used and installed Fink ten years ago, but it 
> seems that download links and repositories changed since then. I 
> couldn't find any clear documentation for my purpose neither. So could 
> you tell me if there's still a chance to join a repository with packages 
> for such an old OS and if so, from where should I begin to install a 
> working Fink environment?
> -- 
> Sincerely, Stephane Ascot
> 

http://www.finkproject.org/download/srcdist.php?phpLang=en has instructions on 
how to do an install from source.  Use the fink-0.30.2 archive, and follow the 
instructions starting with "Now unpack…”, changing “0.39.3” to “0.30.2” as 
appropriate.   Make sure you have the most recent Xcode for 10.4 installed.

Direct access to a binary distribution is somewhat problematic, because it 
requires changes in the fink code and there aren’t many people around with a 
10.4 or 10.5 machine around to test the fixes.  However, you can download the 
binaries directly via a web browser from under 
http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/10.4/dists/ and use “sudo dpkg -i ” to 
install them.  However, since these were generated in 2005, and we kept the 
source distribution active for several years after that, I’d recommend installs 
via source.  


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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink not finding all packages

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> On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:57, Rex Lowther  wrote:
> 
> Alexander,
> 
> That worked!  I had mistakenly assumed that I didn't need to self-update 
> because I had just installed fink.
> 
> Thank you!
> Rex

You’re welcome.  The one upside to doing it this way is that people start out 
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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink not finding all packages

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> On Jun 14, 2016, at 09:31, Rex Lowther  wrote:
> 
> 
> I would like to use fink to install SuiteSparse which is a set of matrix 
> solver routines, source code.  However, this is what I get:
> 
> Rexs-MacBook-Pro:~ rexlowther$ fink install suitesparse
> Password:
> Scanning package description files..
> Information about 314 packages read in 2 seconds.
> Failed: no package found for specification 'suitesparse'!
> 
> Based on an internet search I'm guessing that it only sees binary packages 
> until I become an "Apple developer" and download a compiler.  However, this 
> is just a guess.  Is it necessary to become an Apple developer?
> 
> Thank you,
> Rex
> -- 
> Greetings from Rex Lowther
> physicsg...@gmail.com

Nope, the internet misled you. :-)

You didn’t specify your OS X version or how you installed Fink.  A compiler is 
mandatory to install Fink for any OS X version we currently support 
(10.9-10.11).

Start with running “fink selfupdate”, because you definitely don’t have a 
current set of package descriptions.   There should be around 9000 (and about 
the same number for the binary distribution).
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Octave-4.02 GUI crashed with every Plot command.

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> On Jun 8, 2016, at 14:11, Hans-Jürgen Greif  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> After very long  time octave-4.02 arrived and every single plot command 
> crashed octave-4.02.  That program is total unusable.
> 
> I have send  meantime 20 emails to apple.
> I have gnuplot and aquaterm 10 times removed and again installed.
> 
> What can I do for a working octave 4.02?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Hans-Juergen Greif
> 

I’m not sure why you’re emailing Fink, since I haven’t had the time or 
motivation to update Octave beyond 3.8.2.  

Maybe try the Octave mailing lists?

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Re: [Fink-beginners] octave work-around

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> On Jun 8, 2016, at 13:08, Charles Kankelborg  wrote:
> 
> Problem fixed. Thanks Alex. I had been using finkproject.org and 'fink list' 
> to search for packages, but didn't realize that old versions might not be 
> listed. I now see the 'fink dumpinfo -fallversions' trick described in the 
> man page...
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Charles
> 

I’m glad that I haven’t been staring at a .info file which was only on my own 
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Re: [Fink-beginners] octave work-around

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> On Jun 7, 2016, at 06:39, Charles Kankelborg  wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> Thanks for all your help last year. This gnuplot/octave problem has cropped 
> up again. Under OSX 10.11, the only gnuplot available is 5.0-3. My saved 
> plots are again all black. Would it be possible to make gnuplot 4.6.x 
> available again?
> 
> All the best,
> Charles
> 

It should be available.  I’m on 10.11:

Fionna-3:~ hansen$ fink dumpinfo -fallversions gnuplot
Information about 9132 packages read in 3 seconds.
allversions:
4.6.7-3
 b  5.0.3-2

Fionna-3:~ hansen$ fink dumpinfo -finfofile gnuplot-4.6.7-3
Information about 9132 packages read in 1 seconds.
infofile: /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/finkinfo/sci/gnuplot-4.6.7.info


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Re: [Fink-beginners] New Install

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> On Jun 5, 2016, at 18:38, Donko Ivo Glauser Serkovic 
>  wrote:
> 
> so I copy the output from terminal to nano and cat | grep for failed and 
> errors.
> 

Ah.  It’s normally better just to get the raw output, because it’s often the 
case that the context where the error occurs is important.  What you’ve posted 
combines the output from multiple packages and thus  isn’t very useful.

> cat fink.out | grep failed > /Users/user/fink.failed.out
> 
> I didn't found any log dirs?
> 

Try the build directory:  /sw/src/fink.build/apt-0.5.4-1061/apt-0.5.4

> might be a parse error? I saw this "use --host=" in the stdout in 
> terminal.app?
> 
> And the bash version I used was deprecated. I compiled bash-4.4 and install 
> just the bash binary to /bin/ and linked sh with ln to bash. Might be a parse 
> error, because the other binaries from the compile wont work. 
> 

We generally recommend _not_ changing stuff in the system area.  We make 
_absolutely_ no guarantees that Fink will work if you do that.

> Question: Can I use tcsh or something else than a bash version that passes a  
> x='() { :;}; echo I do something... 
> 
> Please help.
> 
> Thank you in Advance
> 

The problem is that fink package builds often use /bin/sh, with the assumption 
that it is the bash that comes with the system, regardless of what your login 
shell is.  


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Re: [Fink-beginners] New Install

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 4, 2016, at 21:43, Donko Ivo Glauser Serkovic 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry I had to subscribe first
> 
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Donko Ivo Glauser Serkovic 
> mailto:donko.ivo.gl@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Dear All
> 
> some issue with  'apt-0.5.4-1061' I have no Idea.
> 
> I send you my error messages:
> 
> bash-4.4$ cat fink.failed.out 
> ERROR: Bootstrap phase 2 failed!
> 600 failed
>   if (ioctl(fileno(stdout), TIOCGWINSZ, &size) != 0) 
> ohshite(_("ioctl(TIOCGWINSZ) failed"));
>   if (doupdate() == ERR) ohshite(_("doupdate in SIGWINCH handler failed"));
>   if (sigaction(SIGWINCH,osigactp,0)) ohshite(_("failed to restore old 
> SIGWINCH sigact"));
>   if (sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,oblockedp,0)) ohshite(_("failed to restore old 
> signal mask"));
>   if (sigprocmask(0,0,oblockedp)) ohshite(_("failed to get old signal mask"));
>   if (sigaction(SIGWINCH,0,osigactp)) ohshite(_("failed to get old SIGWINCH 
> sigact"));
>   if (sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,&sigwinchset,0)) ohshite(_("failed to block 
> SIGWINCH"));
>   if (sigaction(SIGWINCH,&nsigact,0)) ohshite(_("failed to set new SIGWINCH 
> sigact"));
>  ohshite(_("failed to allocate colour pair"));
>   if (!titlewin) ohshite(_("failed to create title window"));
>   if (!whatinfowin) ohshite(_("failed to create whatinfo window"));
>   if (!listpad) ohshite(_("failed to create baselist pad"));
>   if (!colheadspad) ohshite(_("failed to create heading pad"));
>   if (!thisstatepad) ohshite(_("failed to create thisstate pad"));
>   if (!infopad) ohshite(_("failed to create info pad"));
>   if (!querywin) ohshite(_("failed to create query window"));
> ohshite(_("failed to getch in main menu"));
> if (doupdate() == ERR) ohshite(_("doupdate failed"));
> if (sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK,&sigwinchset,0)) ohshite(_("failed to unblock 
> SIGWINCH"));
> if (sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,&sigwinchset,0)) ohshite(_("failed to re-block 
> SIGWINCH"));
> if (response == ERR) ohshite(_("getch failed"));
> method.cc:59:6: warning: no previous prototype for function 'sthfailed' 
> [-Wmissing-prototypes]
> void sthfailed(const char * reasoning) {
> checking system architecture... configure: error: failed: use --host=
> ### execution of ./configure failed, exit code 1
> phase compiling: apt-0.5.4-1061 failed
> ERROR: Bootstrap phase 2 failed!
> 
> checking system architecture... configure: error: failed: use --host=
> 
> Package manager version: 0.39.3
> Distribution version: selfupdate-point (bootstrap), 10.9, x86_64
> Trees: local/main stable/main
> Xcode.app: 6.2
> Xcode command-line tools: 6.2.0.0.1.1424975374
> Max. Fink build jobs:  8
> bash-4.4$
> 
> ***
> 
> Thank you All in Advance
> 
> Sincerely
> Donko Ivo
> 
> 
> 

It’s a little hard to say what’s going on without knowing what you used to 
generate your fink.failed.out, however I've seen messages like "configure: 
error: failed: use --host=“ in testing packages when I send something to 
configure incorrectly.  Your bash version is newer than what ships with the OS, 
so it might be possible that something isn’t being parsed correctly.

As a workaround, since apt isn’t actually mandatory to use Fink, you can try 
the following:
1)  run /sw/bin/pathsetup.sh to set up Fink’s environment.
2)  Download the apt* packages from 
http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/10.9/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/base/
 
<http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/10.9/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/base/>
3)  Install them via “sudo dpkg -i /path/to/apt*.deb”, replacing “path/to” with 
the actual path to where you downloaded the files.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Inability to install Fink

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> On May 24, 2016, at 08:39, Vicente Pais, Duarte  wrote:
> 
> Dear Sir or Madam,
> 
> I have followed the instructions present in Fink’s webpage on how to install 
> Fink for mac os x 10.11. Ultimately, the installing process stopped abruptly 
> displaying an error of failure whilst doing Bootstrap Phase 2.
> 
> I eventually looked for further help online and downloaded a script at 
> https://github.com/fink/scripts/blob/master/srcinstaller/Install%20Fink.tool 
> which I ran on my terminal. The installing process ended up at the same stage 
> as before…
> 

As should be expected since you didn’t actually change anything.  Install 
Fink.tool automates the downloads and commands but doesn’t do anything.

> Attached is the terminal output containing the information of the errors at 
> the end of the file.
> 
> This is the extra information asked:
> 
> Package manager version: 0.39.3
> Distribution version: selfupdate-point (bootstrap), 10.11, x86_64
> Trees: local/main stable/main
> Xcode.app: 7.3.1
> Xcode command-line tools: 7.3.1.0.1.1461711523
> dpkg-1.10.21-1243 is set to build with only one job.
> 
> 
> ERROR: Bootstrap phase 2 failed!
> 
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The error is the following:

libtool: link: gcc -I/sw/include -o msgfmt msgfmt-msgfmt.o msgfmt-write-mo.o 
msgfmt-write-java.o msgfmt-write-csharp.o msgfmt-write-resources.o 
msgfmt-write-tcl.o msgfmt-write-qt.o msgfmt-write-desktop.o msgfmt-write-xml.o 
../../gettext-runtime/intl/msgfmt-hash-string.o -Wl,-framework 
-Wl,CoreFoundation  -L/sw/lib ./.libs/libgettextsrc.a 
/sw/src/fink.build/dpkg-1.10.21-1243/gettext-0.19.7/gettext-tools/gnulib-lib/.libs/libgettextlib.a
 -lncurses 
/sw/src/fink.build/dpkg-1.10.21-1243/gettext-0.19.7/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libintl.a
 /sw/lib/libiconv.dylib -lc
Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:
  "_bswap_32", referenced from:
  _write_table in msgfmt-write-mo.o
ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64
clang: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation)
make[3]: *** [msgfmt] Error 1
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all] Error 2
### execution of /tmp/fink.tQODV failed, exit code 2
phase compiling: dpkg-1.10.21-1243 failed

Google suggests that the issue might be the presence of a byteswap.h header.  
For example:  https://trac.macports.org/ticket/29358

Your configuration stage indicates that you do indeed have that:

checking byteswap.h usability... yes
checking byteswap.h presence... yes
checking for byteswap.h... yes

I don’t have such a thing on my 10.11 system:

checking byteswap.h usability... no
checking byteswap.h presence... no
checking for byteswap.h… no

I’d recommend finding that header, e.g. by running the following in a terminal 
window:

find /usr -name byteswap.h

(I’m assuming that it’s most likely to be in /usr/include or 
/usr/local/include).  Then rename the file temporarily once you know where it 
resides:

sudo mv /path/to/byteswap.h /path/to/byteswap.h.moved

(replace /path/to by the actual path).  Since this is a header file, it 
shouldn’t affect any running programs.

Once you have done the rename operation, try Install Fink.tool again. 
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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink install xv fails

[Alexander Hansen]

> On May 2, 2016, at 00:08, Schneider  wrote:
> 
> ==
> % fink install xv
> Information about 9352 packages read in 1 seconds.
> The following package will be installed or updated:
> xv
> curl --connect-timeout 30 -f -L -A 'fink/0.39.3' -O 
> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.cis.upenn.edu/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz
>  % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time  Current
> Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft  Speed
>  0 00 00 0  0  0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 
> 0curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 404 Not Found
> ### execution of curl failed, exit code 22
> Downloading the file "xv-3.10a.tar.gz" failed.
> 
> (1)   Give up
> (2)   Retry the same mirror
> (3)   Retry another mirror
> 
> Default answer will be chosen in 120 seconds...
> How do you want to proceed? [3] 
> curl --connect-timeout 30 -f -L -A 'fink/0.39.3' -O 
> ftp://ftp.cis.upenn.edu/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz
>  % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time  Current
> Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft  Speed
> 63 2206k   63 1398k0 0  1663k  0  0:00:01 --:--:--  0:00:01 
> 1663kcurl: (18) server did not report OK, got 500
> ### execution of curl failed, exit code 18
> Downloading the file "xv-3.10a.tar.gz" failed.
> 
> (1)   Give up
> (2)   Retry the same mirror
> 
> ==
> 
> Hmm.
> 
> ==
> % wget ftp://ftp.cis.upenn.edu/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz
> --2016-05-02 02:55:24--  ftp://ftp.cis.upenn.edu/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz
>   => ‘xv-3.10a.tar.gz’
> Resolving ftp.cis.upenn.edu... 158.130.67.137
> Connecting to ftp.cis.upenn.edu|158.130.67.137|:21... connected.
> Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
> ==> SYST ... done.==> PWD ... done.
> ==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD (1) /pub/xv ... done.
> ==> SIZE xv-3.10a.tar.gz ... 2259124
> ==> PASV ... done.==> RETR xv-3.10a.tar.gz ... done.
> Length: 2259124 (2.2M) (unauthoritative)
> 
> xv-3.10a.tar.gz  100%[===>]   2.15M  10.2MB/s   in 
> 0.2s   
> 
> 2016-05-02 02:55:24 (10.2 MB/s) - Data transfer aborted.
> Retrying.
> 
> --2016-05-02 02:55:25--  ftp://ftp.cis.upenn.edu/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz
>  (try: 2) => ‘xv-3.10a.tar.gz’
> ==> CWD not required.
> ==> SIZE xv-3.10a.tar.gz ... 
> Error in server response, closing control connection.
> Retrying.
> 
> --2016-05-02 02:55:27--  ftp://ftp.cis.upenn.edu/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz
>  (try: 3) => ‘xv-3.10a.tar.gz’
> Connecting to ftp.cis.upenn.edu|158.130.67.137|:21... connected.
> Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
> ==> SYST ... done.==> PWD ... done.
> ==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD (1) /pub/xv ... done.
> ==> SIZE xv-3.10a.tar.gz ... 2259124
> File has already been retrieved.
> 2016-05-02 02:55:27 (0.00 B/s) - ‘xv-3.10a.tar.gz’ saved [2259124]
> 
> 
> ==
> 
> Indeed the file came in using wget!
> 
> -rw---1 schneidt  wheel2259124 May  2 02:55 xv-3.10a.tar.gz
> 
> Hunh?
> 
> On another Unix system, I get repeated attempts for
> wget ftp://ftp.cis.upenn.edu/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz
> but every attempt gives the file!
> 
> Tom
> 
>  Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
>  Senior Investigator
>  National Institutes of Health
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>  Frederick, Maryland  21702-1201
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>  https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)
> 

I’m getting a bunch of different responses from the download site.  That seems 
like a problem on their end, and it’s nothing that the Fink Project has any 
control over.  My best recommendation is to keep trying—I was able to get 
everything downloaded eventually.

Unfortunately, due to xv’s license we can’t mirror the source ourselves or post 
a precompiled binary.
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Re: [Fink-beginners] upgrading fink

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Apr 26, 2016, at 15:32, Robert Cheng  wrote:
> 
> During the fink configure step I typed in [none] for the proxy setting.I 
> wasn't sure what proxy setting I can use?

I have absolutely no idea.  That is governed by -your- firewall settings.

If your firewall doesn’t use a proxy, then you might need to talk with whomever 
administers it and ask to have the CVS port (2401) or even the rsync port 
opened for you.

And if that isn’t an option, unfortunately we currently can only tell you to 
use the binary distribution instead of the source distribution, which means 
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Re: [Fink-beginners] upgrading fink

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Apr 26, 2016, at 14:57, Robert Cheng  wrote:
> 
> so after entering the command fink install cvs which has run fine, then I 
> enter
> 
> fink selfupdate-dvs
> 
> bash-3.2$ fink selfupdate-cvs
> Password:
> 
> Please note: the simple command 'fink selfupdate' should be used for routine 
> updating; you only need to use a command
> like 'fink selfupdate-cvs' or 'fink selfupdate --method=rsync' if you are 
> changing your update method. 
> 
> 
> Fink has the capability to run the cvs commands as a normal user. That has 
> some advantages - it uses that user's CVS
> settings files and allows the package descriptions to be edited and updated 
> without becoming root. Please specify the
> user login name that should be used: [piynik] 
> 
> For Fink developers only: Enter your SourceForge login name to set up full 
> CVS access. Other users, just press return to
> set up anonymous read-only access. [anonymous] 
> 
> Checking to see if we can use hard links to merge the existing tree. Please 
> ignore errors on the next few lines.
> Now logging into the CVS server. When CVS asks you for a password, just press 
> return (i.e. the password is empty).
> /usr/bin/su piynik -c 'cvs -d":pserver:anonym...@fink.cvs.sourceforge.net 
> :/cvsroot/fink" login'
> Logging in to :pserver:anonym...@fink.cvs.sourceforge.net 
> :2401/cvsroot/fink
> CVS password: 
> cvs [login aborted]: connect to fink.cvs.sourceforge.net 
> (216.34.181.112):2401 failed: Operation 
> timed out
> ### execution of /usr/bin/su failed, exit code 1
> Failed: Logging into the CVS server for anonymous read-only access failed.
> bash-3.2$ 
> 

It doesn’t look like you ran “fink configure” to set up your proxy, so your 
firewall isn’t permitting CVS to work.

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