Re: [Fink-devel] /usr/local/fink
On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 11:53 PM, David wrote: On Dienstag, Jänner 7, 2003, at 08:40 Uhr, Brian Kendig wrote: snip Installing from the Fink 0.5.0a disk image doesn't prompt me for a location; it automatically uses '/sw'. I'll go back and reinstall from the .tar.gz file. (But installing to a location other than the default will cause precompiled binaries to not work, right?) Well, that is a bug indeed, please file it in the bug tracker. Since Fink is able to handle different locations, the installer should prompt for it. Well, its a feature request, not a bug. And even if the installer could handle different locations, because it installs binaries it will require a symlink of /sw to your install location. The path is hard coded into many things (like dynamic libraries) at compile time. -Ben --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Who should Provide X11 ?
[ Please forgive me if the tone is a little harsh; I'm stuck in front of a Windoze box for the moment... ] Sure you can think of scenarios where someone might want the X libraries installed and not the X server, but these are largely artificial. Erm, what?! I have at least 20 servers, of varios OS's, which have the X11 base clients and X11 shared libraries in stalled, but no X11 server. No X fonts, font servers, etc. either. Why would I? I don't even have a monitor on some of them; many are at various data centers; etc. ssh -X forwards X11 to my workstation. As people have pointed out you are only saving 5-10% of the size of the distribution by separating out the server and there For those of us with 10GB HDs, XFree takes some very real disk space! And don't say that's silly --- it's what my slightly over a year old iBook has. I have many servers with far less. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] /usr/local/fink
On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 11:53 PM, David wrote: For a long time /sw has been an acronym or at least and ailas for a Fink install on a Mac system. That is my point and it is never moot, since we are indulging in active discussion here and nothing is set in stone. I'm just observing the developer list. I have no suggestion except a silly game of names. The shallowness of /sw directory is pretty handy. It's an island well isolated from other critical areas. This is important for two reasons: First, it minimizes Fink's interaction with other components. Ben Hines was quite right in pointing out that /opt is chosen for similar policy. Second, naturalistically, Finches live in islands. I'm afraid that most Fink users, current or future, get intimidated if /sw is deeply embeded in /usr/local/fink. It will be convenient for Unix-savvy people, but please bear in mind that not a small portion of users that Fink targets are those people who don't have a clear idea of how to build softwares for themselves (with xmkmf, ./configure, make, make install ...), let alone maintaining their own systems. It's quite likely that /usr/local/fink looks quite confusing for those people. If I had any complaint about /sw, it is just that the directory name sounds a bit too plain. I wish if only there were a better, more witty name for it! Why didn' Darwin discover his Finches in islands with much shorter names? Having a directory /galapagos looks too anti-Unix-y. Cheers, Kow --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Who should Provide X11 ?
Ther are a couple of different possiblities for where we pay... at the moment we save 4MB on the default install. This is not as trivial as people make out - my 6GB drive is generally full, and I actively look at anything over 1MB to see if I can get rid of it. Add to that the time to download (in Australia this is still surprisingly slow over phone lines, which is how I do it) and it is clear that it would be nice not to install this unnecessarily. On the other hand there are lots of people running fink who are not really good at understanding how the system works, and who are benefitting most from the fact that fink decides where to put the things in their directories so thhey don't end up with their usual mess of a desktop containing multiple copies of the same software because they are unable to manage it properly. For these people the fact that they install a apckage and then it doesn't run is a pain. I think the best solution is to have the dependency on x11-server as a possibility, and make that the default for packages currently dependent on x11. After that it would be helpful for the expert few if maintainers provided a cut-down version of their package that didn't require the server, allowing people to easily save the 4MB. In practice I think the people who don't need the server tend to be people who could happily remove it by hand, whereas the people who do need it are often (in my experience 7 of 9) people who have no idea what to do when they haven't got the server. Meking the system easy for beginners and sufficiently flexible to support the needs of experts is far better than having something that only works for experts. This is a rationale for packaging in the first place - the time it saves expert users is nothing compared to the productivity it provides for novices. just my 2 bits... chaals On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: [ Please forgive me if the tone is a little harsh; I'm stuck in front of a Windoze box for the moment... ] Sure you can think of scenarios where someone might want the X libraries installed and not the X server, but these are largely artificial. Erm, what?! I have at least 20 servers, of varios OS's, which have the X11 base clients and X11 shared libraries in stalled, but no X11 server. No X fonts, font servers, etc. either. Why would I? I don't even have a monitor on some of them; many are at various data centers; etc. ssh -X forwards X11 to my workstation. As people have pointed out you are only saving 5-10% of the size of the distribution by separating out the server and there For those of us with 10GB HDs, XFree takes some very real disk space! And don't say that's silly --- it's what my slightly over a year old iBook has. I have many servers with far less. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel -- Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles tel: +61 409 134 136 SWAD-E http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/Europe fax(france): +33 4 92 38 78 22 Post: 21 Mitchell street, FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australiaor W3C, 2004 Route des Lucioles, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Who should Provide X11 ?
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 04:09 AM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: Ther are a couple of different possiblities for where we pay... at the moment we save 4MB on the default install. This is not as trivial as people make out - my 6GB drive is generally full, and I actively look at anything over 1MB to see if I can get rid of it. Add to that the time to download (in Australia this is still surprisingly slow over phone lines, which is how I do it) and it is clear that it would be nice not to install this unnecessarily. One semi-hackish way to do this would be to make the server a BuildDepends. That way it would be installed afterwards, but it would be safely removable. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] X11: rootless v. base
I agree that the rootless package is kind of pointless, but as Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] said there are many situations when X11 libs, but no X server are needed. but because fink installs ALL of XFree86 except the server in one package that argument is moot until we see many more X11 packages. $0.02 JP --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] X11: rootless v. base
Well, code that is partially well-factored is better than not having it done at all - the point of running open-source beta software is that we can have incremental improvements... EUR 0,02 chaals On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that the rootless package is kind of pointless, but as Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] said there are many situations when X11 libs, but no X server are needed. but because fink installs ALL of XFree86 except the server in one package that argument is moot until we see many more X11 packages. $0.02 JP --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel -- Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles tel: +61 409 134 136 SWAD-E http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/Europe fax(france): +33 4 92 38 78 22 Post: 21 Mitchell street, FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australiaor W3C, 2004 Route des Lucioles, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Who should Provide X11 ?
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Ben Hines wrote: On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 10:56 AM, Jeff Whitaker wrote: I argue for leaving it as is. We indeed have had this discussion before, and the conclusion was that since there are lots of ways to use X11 apps without having xfree86-rootless installed, we should not move Provides: I think that was YOUR conclusion, and you are the maintainer, so it didn't happen. I disagreed then, and I still disagree, and it looks like more people disagree now. The current situation causes a LOT of confusion for newbies. And for what - to save 4 megs of hard drive space. Thats silly. -Ben Ben: Look at the archives - I wasn't just agreeing with myself. Jeez, I never thought I'd get so much grief for expressing an opinion. Anyway, since I'm clearly in the minority here's what I propose to do. 1) create a unified xfree86 package which installs both the libs and the rootles server (i.e. everything). 2) create little pseudo packages for xfree86-base(-shlibs) and xfree86-rootless(-shlibs) that do nothing but Depend on xfree86-(shlibs). This will provide an upgrade path if you already have a fink xfree86 package installed. I have no idea whether this will work - we'll see. Comments? -Jeff -- Jeffrey S. Whitaker Phone : (303)497-6313 NOAA/OAR/CDC R/CDC1FAX : (303)497-6449 325 BroadwayWeb : http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/~jsw Boulder, CO, USA 80305-3328 Office: Skaggs Research Cntr 1D-124 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] [Fink] A problem with gsl.
Hi, I was updating gsl when I got this error message: Writing shlibs file... dpkg-deb -b root-gsl-shlibs-1.3-1 /sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/sci dpkg-deb: building package `gsl-shlibs' in `/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/sci/gsl- shlibs_1.3-1_darwin-powerpc.deb'. ln -sf /sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/sci/gsl-shlibs_1.3- 1_darwin-powerpc.deb /sw/fink/debs/ rm -rf /sw/src/root-gsl-shlibs-1.3-1 rm -rf /sw/src/root-gsl-1.3-1 dpkg -i /sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/sci/gsl-shlibs_1.3- 1_darwin-powerpc.deb /sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/sci/gsl_1.3- 1_darwin-powerpc.deb (Reading database ... 25363 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace gsl-shlibs 1.2-1 (using .../gsl-shlibs_1.3-1_darwin-powerpc.deb) ... Unpacking replacement gsl-shlibs ... dpkg: error processing /sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/sci/gsl-shlibs_1.3- 1_darwin-powerpc.deb (--install): trying to overwrite `/sw/lib/libgslcblas.0.0.0.dylib', which is also in package gsl dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Preparing to replace gsl 1.2-1 (using .../gsl_1.3-1_darwin-powerpc.deb) ... install-info: deleting entry `* gsl-ref: (gsl-ref) ...' install-info: deleting empty section `Scientific software' Unpacking replacement gsl ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gsl: gsl depends on gsl-shlibs (= 1.3-1); however: Version of gsl-shlibs on system is 1.2-1. dpkg: error processing gsl (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: /sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/sci/gsl-shlibs_1.3- 1_darwin-powerpc.deb gsl ### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1 Failed: can't batch-install packages: /sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/sci/gsl-shlibs_1.3- 1_darwin-powerpc.deb /sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/sci/gsl_1.3- 1_darwin-powerpc.deb I've tried to remove gsl and gsl-shlibs manually and re-intalling them, but now when I try to link my software against gsl I get the following linker error: ld: Undefined symbols: _cblas_caxpy _cblas_ccopy _cblas_cdotc_sub The linker can't find all the cblas functions. How can I get my gsl working again? Thanks, Andrea. --- Andrea Riciputimailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Science is like sex: sometimes something useful comes out, but that is not the reason we are doing it -- (Richard Feynman) --- Andrea Riciputimailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Science is like sex: sometimes something useful comes out, but that is not the reason we are doing it -- (Richard Feynman) --- Andrea Riciputimailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Science is like sex: sometimes something useful comes out, but that is not the reason we are doing it -- (Richard Feynman) --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Who should Provide X11 ?
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 02:42 AM, Ben Hines wrote: The current situation causes a LOT of confusion for newbies. And for what - to save 4 megs of hard drive space. Thats silly. I agree, saving 4 megs out of 45 isn't really worth the amount of questions we get on the subject. No matter how many FAQ entries and big nasty warnings we could add, the truth is that they would be a band-aid on the fact that having them split is confusing, and gains very little. For every person that asks about some xfree86-related thing on the list, there's 4 or 5 that you don't see asking on the IRC channel. It's really a rather goofy usability issue that is easily solved. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Who should Provide X11 ?
To reiterate the point that both Martin and I made earlier (to avoid potential confusion when people search the list archives), and just mentioned today on the OroborOSX list, too: OroborOSX requires you to have _all_ of XFree86. Its private XDarwin is just a replacement for XDarwin.app. On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 19:22, Joe Block wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, Jan 6, 2003, at 13:56 US/Eastern, Jeff Whitaker wrote: I argue for leaving it as is. We indeed have had this discussion before, and the conclusion was that since there are lots of ways to use X11 apps without having xfree86-rootless installed, we should not move Provides: x11 to xfree86-rootless. For example, you can run these apps remotely on a machine that does have an Xserver installed, or you can run them in Xvnc/Vncviewer, or you can run them in oroborus X (which has it's own XDarwin bundled in). Why force people to install xfree86-rootless if they don't really need to? Why not have a ouroborusx dummy package that provides X11 for those people running OuroborosX? I think it's better for people who may not be X11 gurus to have a default that leaves them with what they expect - a system able to run package N when they do fink install N. jpb - -- Joe Block [EMAIL PROTECTED] My definition of a free society is a society where it is safe to be unpopular. - Adlai Stevenson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQE+Gh3dyEXo8W2M9hsRAtoaAJ95n+9Dowt+YVu84EyYNsi3h2oThgCeOY0G pc4Ei/kJEH2N7BcdxldeC/4= =dVLg -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel -- Alexander K. Hansen Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center Levitated Dipole Experiment 175 Albany Street, NW17-219 Cambridge, MA 02139-4213 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Will someone look at my package?
It would be best if you could post it to the package submission tracker: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=414256group_id=17203 Like this more people can look at it. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] /usr/local/fink
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 05:08 AM, Brian Kendig wrote: A major point of Darwin's work was that many different species can all coexist in the same place together and in fact depend on each other for survival. Take those finches and put them on an island all by themselves with no other animals around (no insects to pollinate the flowers, no predators to keep their population down and weed out the less-capable), and they'll eventually die out. This is somewhat incorrect. Galapagos is not a single island, but a collection of small islands, I guess nearly ten (but I'm afraid I'm wrong. I couldn't get a quick answer by googling). And each island is off-contact from the other. For each island, one or two species of finches evolved through their interaction with environment. This process is called speciation. Darwin was intrigued, or rather encouranged, by this phenomenon. Another fact, or observation, that seemed intrigued Darwin is apparently low selectional pressure in the islands, and he attributed this to the fact that no real predetor-type species have invaded there thanks to their isolation from the outer world, which is historically accidental. Cheers, Kow --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Who should Provide X11 ?
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 05:12 AM, jeff whitaker wrote: Ben: Look at the archives - I wasn't just agreeing with myself. Jeez, I never thought I'd get so much grief for expressing an opinion. Anyway, since I'm clearly in the minority here's what I propose to do. Nevermind me, i just like to argue. 1) create a unified xfree86 package which installs both the libs and the rootles server (i.e. everything). 2) create little pseudo packages for xfree86-base(-shlibs) and xfree86-rootless(-shlibs) that do nothing but Depend on xfree86-(shlibs). This will provide an upgrade path if you already have a fink xfree86 package installed. I have no idea whether this will work - we'll see. Comments? There is another option, we could leave the packages as is, implement "reccomends" support in fink, and have xfree86-base reccomend rootless. Newbies would (hopefully :) choose the default. It would look like: Package xfree86-base reccomends these additional packages: xfree86-rootless Install them now? (Y/n) However this doesn't help apt-get and such, which don't prompt you for reccomends (dselect sort-of does, but the GUI is so horribly bad, newbies might not even notice :) So on second thought i think we should go to the one package method. We probably should just wait till 4.3 to do it, at which time we can also get rid of the -threaded packages, since 4.3 is threaded already. -Ben
Re: [Fink-devel] /usr/local/fink
This discussion seems pretty pointless to me. We had it over and over in the past. It would be nice if people would at least search the mailing list archives before bringing up this topic again sigh. Max -- --- Max Horn Software Developer --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] X11: rootless v. base
My take on this is as follows: As Torrey pointed out, the seperation of the X11 package is largely historical. In fact, both Jeff and I in the past attempted to merge it back into one package. However, this is not something as trivial as you might think - it caused various update transition problems. So if we decided to do that merge, please please, *first* test it out before anybody puts packages for this into unstable! As to which package should provide X11, or whether to have seperate -base / -rootless packages: I personally don't have a strong opinion now, I need to think a bit more about it. But it would seem that indeed nowadays we should consider merging the packages back into one, if that is possible w/o high techincal difficulties. I understand that argument that some people might not want the server part to save 4 MB. However, compared to the problems this causes for many other people, I would think we should (for now) choose to sacrifice that rather small advantage for the sake of the greater good. On the long run, when it comes to disk space and efficency, we should maybe now start thinking about another thing: many (most? all?) fink packages include debug information and are compiled with the -g option. While this eases debugging, it adds a lot of disk space overhead. Depending on the binary, stripping them reduces the factor of binaries dramatically. I am talking about factor 2-10 ! E.g. astrip goes from 8 MB to 800 KB... Alas, that is a different discussion :-) Cheers, Max -- --- Max Horn Software Developer --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] /usr/local/fink
This discussion seems pretty pointless to me. We had it over and over in the past. It would be nice if people would at least search the mailing list archives before bringing up this topic again sigh. I did. I found exactly one previous mention of '/usr/local/fink', which you dismissed with 'please read the FAQ.' ;-) --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] MD5 fields now semi-required
I just modified the package validator (in CVS) to generate a warning for any missing MD5 field. Everybody should go through their packages and add MD5 fields (me, too, I hope I will find the time for that soon). In the meantime, there are about 120 package validation warnings/errors in unstable. Would be nice if people could check those (see the attachment to this mail). A big bunch of those is due to koffice-i18n packages not using %v :-) Don't forget, if you make any changes in unstable, make sure to check if they have to be synced to stable, too. Cheers, Max -- --- Max Horn Software Developer %fink-validation.txt Description: application/applefile fink-validation.txt Description: Binary data
Re: [Fink-devel] /usr/local/fink
At 11:17 Uhr -0500 07.01.2003, Brian Kendig wrote: This discussion seems pretty pointless to me. We had it over and over in the past. It would be nice if people would at least search the mailing list archives before bringing up this topic again sigh. I did. I found exactly one previous mention of '/usr/local/fink', which you dismissed with 'please read the FAQ.' ;-) /usr/local/fink falls into about the same category as /usr/local. In fact, I think it combines that bad parts of /usr/local with any drawbacks /sw has... :-) Max -- --- Max Horn Software Developer --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] /usr/local/fink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hay all, On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 08:42 AM, Max Horn wrote: /usr/local/fink falls into about the same category as /usr/local. In fact, I think it combines that bad parts of /usr/local with any drawbacks /sw has... :-) I agree. Anyway, as has been said, /sw means Fink. I think it would be rather painful to change it now -- newbies would be confused by people talking about /sw and others talking about /opt (or whatever), docs would be in a state of flux for a while... it would be painful. Perhaps the If you have a better suggestion, post it to the fink-devel mailing list. bit in the FAQ could be removed? Daniel - -- Moderation in all things, but most importantly, in moderation. My PGP public key: http://mwdesign.dyndns.org/~daniel/publickey.txt Don't use PGP? Check out http://www.pgpi.org/doc/whypgp/en/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQE+GwxUxIklpV9nwSURAqdoAKDUw3fduP+38j7BH+k7Uc8hempG9gCff2Gw mEPiY7ON1rlOMDkCS3CJzO4= =9Xvr -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] MD5 fields now semi-required
A few weeks ago I mentioned on fink-devel that I would like to make an effort and add Homepage and Source-MD5 fields to those .info files that lack them. I would like to announce that I am almost done with my work. Basically I just need to make a couple of final checks and then I would be ready to deliver the modified .info files to the package submission tracker. So, before anybody jumps at Max' suggestion, please be patient another day - tomorrow Wednesday evening I will give you all the md5's that you wish :-) Patrick --_-1170164814==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed I just modified the package validator (in CVS) to generate a warning for any missing MD5 field. Everybody should go through their packages and add MD5 fields (me, too, I hope I will find the time for that soon). In the meantime, there are about 120 package validation warnings/errors in unstable. Would be nice if people could check those (see the attachment to this mail). A big bunch of those is due to koffice-i18n packages not using %v :-) Don't forget, if you make any changes in unstable, make sure to check if they have to be synced to stable, too. Cheers, Max -- --- Max Horn Software Developer --_-1170164814==_ Content-Id: p05111a06ba40b1102c84@[131.155.225.251].0.0 Content-Type: multipart/appledouble; boundary=_-1170164814==_D --_-1170164814==_D --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] /usr/local/fink
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Hines) wrote : Actually, some systems similar to fink use /opt, for the same reason fink uses /sw. Or perhaps, like NetBSDs use usr/pkg we can use /usr/fink Anyway, usr/local/fink is definitely *not* a good idea : /sw /usr/local /usr/pkg /opt are all shadow trees While /usr/local/fink would be a tree within a tree. A mess. I vote for /usr/fink, if one day the installer gives the user a choice. My 0.02¤ -- Xavier http://www.freetibet.org http://www.tibet.fr/ --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] X11: rootless v. base
i suppose that it is better to be able to have incrimental upgrades w/ separate packages. but xfree86-rootless always depends on the latest xfree86-base. so we still upgrade the whole, just it takes more steps. I'd like to see many more parts/sections of the xfree86 packages. I'd b willing to help/do some of it if i knew what eggactly needed to be done (I don't fancy myself an X11 xpert) $0.03 JP On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 02:21 AM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: Well, code that is partially well-factored is better than not having it done at all - the point of running open-source beta software is that we can have incremental improvements... EUR 0,02 chaals On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that the rootless package is kind of pointless, but as Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] said there are many situations when X11 libs, but no X server are needed. but because fink installs ALL of XFree86 except the server in one package that argument is moot until we see many more X11 packages. $0.02 JP --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel -- Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles tel: +61 409 134 136 SWAD-E http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/Europe fax(france): +33 4 92 38 78 22 Post: 21 Mitchell street, FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australiaor W3C, 2004 Route des Lucioles, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Apple's X11
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 07:48 pm, Finlay Dobbie wrote: The user install download link at http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/download/ is broken currently. The SDK posted there won't help anyone, its just libraries and headers. The text link in the sidebar works, the graphic one which links to a form doesn't. Looks like you need both :-) -- Finlay --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] MD5 fields now semi-required
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 06:33 PM, Patrick Naef wrote: I would like to announce that I am almost done with my work. Basically I just need to make a couple of final checks and then I would be ready to deliver the modified .info files to the package submission tracker. So, before anybody jumps at Max' suggestion, please be patient another day - tomorrow Wednesday evening I will give you all the md5's that you wish :-) Ugh. It would probably take you all day just to upload them to the tracker, and me a week just to download them from the tracker. Perhaps you should send them directly to someone. -Ben --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Apple's X11
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 07:44 pm, Ben Hines wrote: dpkg -r --force-depends xfree86-base dpkg -r --force-depends xfree86-base-shlibs For most of us that should probably be xfree86-base-threaded, xfree86-base-threaded-shlibs, xfree86-rootless-threaded and xfree86-rootless-threaded-shlibs :-) -- Finlay --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Apple's X11
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 12:26 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: Another relevant link, which may indicate which way the wind is blowing, long-term: http://www.opendarwin.org/projects/darwinports/en/x11.php I somehow doubt that. .pkg files are a huge step backwards, even the darwinports people know that. -Ben --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] New Apple's X11
I wrote, without thinking first : Apple is about to relase a X11 environment for Jaguar. Seems promising, with tight integration within Aqua. http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/ I think a placeholder package would be convenient. Has someone began to do that ? If not, I'll try to do it. Oops, I didn't realize that system-xfree is here for that purpose, as said Ben Hines in [EMAIL PROTECTED] My mistake, sorry... -- Xavier http://www.freetibet.org http://www.tibet.fr/ --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] New Apple's X11
I think you had a valid concern: back in the 10.1 days we had system-xfree86 and system-xtools because Xtools wasn't exactly the same as XFree86. Fortunately, Apple didn't do anything odd to the X11 core. On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 16:05, Xavier HUMBERT wrote: I wrote, without thinking first : Apple is about to relase a X11 environment for Jaguar. Seems promising, with tight integration within Aqua. http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/ I think a placeholder package would be convenient. Has someone began to do that ? If not, I'll try to do it. Oops, I didn't realize that system-xfree is here for that purpose, as said Ben Hines in [EMAIL PROTECTED] My mistake, sorry... -- Xavier http://www.freetibet.org http://www.tibet.fr/ --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel -- Alexander K. Hansen Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center Levitated Dipole Experiment 175 Albany Street, NW17-219 Cambridge, MA 02139-4213 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] I'm back! (Almost)
Greetings Fink packagers, It's been 9 months since I left Fink after selling my iBook (terrible video encoding performance without G4), but after today's Macworld Expo, I just placed my order for the new 12 PBook! Fink has advanced quite a bit since I left - KDE is finally ported, and Evolution etc. - wow! Thanks to Sylvain for taking over SWI Prolog too. Damn.. it's good to be back. Another 2-4 weeks until the new machine arrives... Has anything much changed on the technical/admin front? Greetings all and a joyful New Year, -- Michel Top scientists agree that with the present rate of consumption, the earth's supply of gravity will be exhausted before the 24th century. As man struggles to discover cheaper alternatives, we need your help. Please... CONSERVE GRAVITY Follow these simple suggestions: (1) Walk with a light step. Carry helium balloons if possible. (2) Use tape, magnets, or glue instead of paperweights. (3) Give up skiing and skydiving for more horizontal sports like curling. (4) Avoid showers .. take baths instead. (5) Don't hang all your clothes in the closet ... Keep them in one big pile. (6) Stop flipping pancakes --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Apple's X11
On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 14:34 US/Eastern, Finlay Dobbie wrote: http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/ Just thought y'all should know :-) Hot DAMN!!! This looks like apple took the existing XDarwin.app and added a bunch of small little things that make it just a little nicer to work with (Additional Quartz speedups, Better mouse support, etc.) Thanks, Kyle Moffett --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] system-xfree86-4.2-1
-- Package manager version: 0.11.1 Distribution version: 0.5.0a Mac OS X version: 10.2.3 Developer Tools not installed Can't get package to install with Apple X11 Beta. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] fink xfree86 and Apple X11
Apple's X11 will work with fink xfree86-4.2.1.1 on 10.2.3. I tested this by installing xfree86-base, xfree86-rootless (and shlibs), then copying over /Applications/X11.app, /usr/X11R6/bin/Xquartz, /usr/X11R6/bin/quartz-wm and /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib from an Apple X11 installation. Double click on the X11 icon in /Applications, and voila, quartz-wm fires up. Not as fast as running the full Apple installation though, but I suspect once xfree86 4.3 is released there won't be a noticeable difference. Would be nice if someone would package up just those files from Apple's X11 , as alternative to Oroborus X. -Jeff -- Jeffrey S. Whitaker Phone : (303)497-6313 NOAA/OAR/CDC R/CDC1FAX : (303)497-6449 325 BroadwayWeb : http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/~jsw Boulder, CO, USA 80305-3328 Office: Skaggs Research Cntr 1D-124 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] fink xfree86 and Apple X11
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 08:30 PM, Jeff Whitaker wrote: Apple's X11 will work with fink xfree86-4.2.1.1 on 10.2.3. I tested this by installing xfree86-base, xfree86-rootless (and shlibs), then copying over /Applications/X11.app, /usr/X11R6/bin/Xquartz, /usr/X11R6/bin/quartz-wm and /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib from an Apple X11 installation. Double click on the X11 icon in /Applications, and voila, quartz-wm fires up. Not as fast as running the full Apple installation though, but I suspect once xfree86 4.3 is released there won't be a noticeable difference. Would be nice if someone would package up just those files from Apple's X11 , as alternative to Oroborus X. There's at least a few more files too... the libdps (display postscript) stuff, isn't standard, as far as I'm aware... --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] kdelibs3-ssl-dev depency issues
Hi, I'm unable to fink update-all because of this depency problem: Dépaquetage de la mise à jour de kdelibs3-ssl-dev ... dpkg : des problèmes de dépendances empêchent la configuration de kdelibs3-ssl-dev : kdelibs3-ssl-dev dépend de kdelibs3-ssl (= 3.1-1) ; cependant : La version de kdelibs3-ssl sur le système est 3.0.7-5. dpkg : erreur de traitement de kdelibs3-ssl-dev (--install) : problèmes de dépendances - laissé non configuré Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution : /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb kdelibs3-ssl-dev ### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1 Failed: can't batch-install packages: /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl-dev_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb I don't think if this has already been reported... Pejvan --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] fink xfree86 and Apple X11
On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Benjamin Reed wrote: On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 08:30 PM, Jeff Whitaker wrote: Apple's X11 will work with fink xfree86-4.2.1.1 on 10.2.3. I tested this by installing xfree86-base, xfree86-rootless (and shlibs), then copying over /Applications/X11.app, /usr/X11R6/bin/Xquartz, /usr/X11R6/bin/quartz-wm and /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib from an Apple X11 installation. Double click on the X11 icon in /Applications, and voila, quartz-wm fires up. Not as fast as running the full Apple installation though, but I suspect once xfree86 4.3 is released there won't be a noticeable difference. Would be nice if someone would package up just those files from Apple's X11 , as alternative to Oroborus X. There's at least a few more files too... the libdps (display postscript) stuff, isn't standard, as far as I'm aware... Maybe not, but it appears to work (as far as I can tell) without it. -Jeff -- Jeffrey S. Whitaker Phone : (303)497-6313 NOAA/OAR/CDC R/CDC1FAX : (303)497-6449 325 BroadwayWeb : http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/~jsw Boulder, CO, USA 80305-3328 Office: Skaggs Research Cntr 1D-124 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] kdelibs3-ssl-dev depency issues
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 08:38 PM, Pejvan BEIGUI wrote: Failed: can't batch-install packages: /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3- ssl_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl- dev_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb I don't think if this has already been reported... Yes. Removing the -dev packages and installing again should fix it. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] kdelibs3-ssl-dev depency issues
Benjamin Reed wrote: On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 08:38 PM, Pejvan BEIGUI wrote: Failed: can't batch-install packages: /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3- ssl_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl- dev_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb I don't think if this has already been reported... Yes. Removing the -dev packages and installing again should fix it. I'm sorry, but I'm kinda lost, your advice didn't work :( As you can see in the following log conectiva-crystal is making trouble, and I don't know how to remove it :( [3:12:19am] _pejvan_ ~ fink remove conectiva-crystal sudo /sw/bin/fink remove conectiva-crystal Information about 2057 packages read in 1 seconds. pkg conectiva-crystal version ### Failed: no version info available for conectiva-crystal here are the logs of kde ssl stuff : [3:01:39am] _pejvan_ ~ fink remove kdelibs3-ssl-dev sudo /sw/bin/fink remove kdelibs3-ssl-dev Information about 2057 packages read in 1 seconds. pkg kdelibs3-ssl-dev version ### pkg kdelibs3-ssl-dev version 3.1-1 dpkg --remove kdelibs3-ssl-dev (Lecture de la base de données... 72795 fichiers et répertoires déjà installés.) Suppression de kdelibs3-ssl-dev ... [3:01:44am] _pejvan_ ~ fink install kdelibs3-ssl-dev sudo /sw/bin/fink install kdelibs3-ssl-dev Information about 2057 packages read in 1 seconds. pkg kdelibs3-ssl-dev version ### pkg kdelibs3-ssl-dev version 3.1-1 The following package will be installed or updated: kdelibs3-ssl-dev The following additional package will be installed: kdelibs3-ssl Do you want to continue? [Y/n] dpkg -i /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl-dev_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb dpkg : concernant .../kdelibs3-ssl_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb contenant kdelibs3-ssl : kde-icons-crystal entre en conflit avec conectiva-crystal kdelibs3-ssl fournit conectiva-crystal et doit être installé. dpkg : erreur de traitement de /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb (--install) : paquets en conflit - kdelibs3-ssl non installé Sélection du paquet kdelibs3-ssl-dev précédemment désélectionné. (Lecture de la base de données... 72246 fichiers et répertoires déjà installés.) Dépaquetage de kdelibs3-ssl-dev (à partir de .../kdelibs3-ssl-dev_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb) ... dpkg : des problèmes de dépendances empêchent la configuration de kdelibs3-ssl-dev : kdelibs3-ssl-dev dépend de kdelibs3-ssl (= 3.1-1) ; cependant : La version de kdelibs3-ssl sur le système est 3.0.7-5. dpkg : erreur de traitement de kdelibs3-ssl-dev (--install) : problèmes de dépendances - laissé non configuré Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution : /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb kdelibs3-ssl-dev ### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1 Failed: can't batch-install packages: /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl-dev_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb [3:02:03am] _pejvan_ ~ fink reinstall kdelibs3-ssl-dev sudo /sw/bin/fink reinstall kdelibs3-ssl-dev Information about 2057 packages read in 1 seconds. pkg kdelibs3-ssl-dev version ### pkg kdelibs3-ssl-dev version 3.1-1 The following package will be reinstalled: kdelibs3-ssl-dev The following additional package will be installed: kdelibs3-ssl Do you want to continue? [Y/n] dpkg -i /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl-dev_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb dpkg : concernant .../kdelibs3-ssl_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb contenant kdelibs3-ssl : kde-icons-crystal entre en conflit avec conectiva-crystal kdelibs3-ssl fournit conectiva-crystal et doit être installé. dpkg : erreur de traitement de /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb (--install) : paquets en conflit - kdelibs3-ssl non installé (Lecture de la base de données... 72795 fichiers et répertoires déjà installés.) Préparation du remplacement de kdelibs3-ssl-dev 3.1-1 (en utilisant .../kdelibs3-ssl-dev_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb) ... Dépaquetage de la mise à jour de kdelibs3-ssl-dev ... dpkg : des problèmes de dépendances empêchent la configuration de kdelibs3-ssl-dev : kdelibs3-ssl-dev dépend de kdelibs3-ssl (= 3.1-1) ; cependant : La version de kdelibs3-ssl sur le système est 3.0.7-5. dpkg : erreur de traitement de kdelibs3-ssl-dev (--install) : problèmes de dépendances - laissé non configuré Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution : /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb kdelibs3-ssl-dev ### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1
Re: [Fink-devel] Apple's X11
I'm scared. ;) This looks a LOT like OroborOSX. anyone agree? JP http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/ Just thought y'all should know :-) -- Finlay --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Odd number of elements in hash assignment warnings
I'm getting this warning too, now, with fink 0.11.1-10 installed. It may have been caused by the new X11, but that seems strange. ... ccache-2.1/unify.c Odd number of elements in hash assignment at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/PkgVersion.pm line 1748. Use of uninitialized value in list assignment at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/PkgVersion.pm line 1748. ./configure --prefix=/sw configure: Configuring ccache checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output... a.out ...snip... gcc -g -O2 -Wall -W -I. -prebind -o ccache ccache.o mdfour.o hash.o execute.o util.o args.o stats.o cleanup.o snprintf.o unify.o Use of uninitialized value in list assignment at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/PkgVersion.pm line 1734. rm -rf /sw/src/root-ccache-2.1-1 mkdir -p /sw/src/root-ccache-2.1-1/sw mkdir -p /sw/src/root-ccache-2.1-1/DEBIAN Use of uninitialized value in list assignment at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/PkgVersion.pm line 1734. mkdir -p /sw/src/root-ccache-2.1-1/sw/bin . -Ben --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Odd number of elements in hash assignment warnings
Figured it out. This is caused by the ccp4 pacakge. It sets something bad in its profile.d scripts. Not sure what, exactly, it would be good if the maintainer could figure out what variable breaks fink. -Ben On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 06:41 PM, Ben Hines wrote: I'm getting this warning too, now, with fink 0.11.1-10 installed. It may have been caused by the new X11, but that seems strange. ccache-2.1/unify.c Odd number of elements in hash assignment at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/PkgVersion.pm line 1748. Use of uninitialized value in list assignment at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/PkgVersion.pm line 1748. ../configure --prefix=/sw configure: Configuring ccache checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output... a.out snip... gcc -g -O2 -Wall -W -I. -prebind -o ccache ccache.o mdfour.o hash.o execute.o util.o args.o stats.o cleanup.o snprintf.o unify.o Use of uninitialized value in list assignment at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/PkgVersion.pm line 1734. rm -rf /sw/src/root-ccache-2.1-1 mkdir -p /sw/src/root-ccache-2.1-1/sw mkdir -p /sw/src/root-ccache-2.1-1/DEBIAN Use of uninitialized value in list assignment at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/PkgVersion.pm line 1734. mkdir -p /sw/src/root-ccache-2.1-1/sw/bin .. -Ben --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Apple's X11
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 09:24 PM, John Davidorff Pell wrote: This looks a LOT like OroborOSX. anyone agree? No. I'm using the Smoothstripes Square theme and all the Apple X11 windows are too. OroborOSX simply uses a theme that looks like Aqua. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Odd number of elements in hash assignment warnings
Hi: First of all, I apologize for this. I had noticed this nonfatal error also since the 10.2.3 upgrade but had no idea that I was the cause of it. It was not happening, at least to me, in 10.2.2 and below. The quick fix is to remove the file %p/etc/profile.d/ccp4.sh where %p :== /sw or your equivalent. This file has a one line command in it to run another script, distributed by ccp4, that sets up the environment in bash and sh. The line in mine is . /sw/share/xtal/ccp4-4.2.2/include/ccp4.setup-sh This seems to work fine interactively, so I have been unable to figure out what the problem is and will have to inquire upstream. Meanwhile my proposed fix is to delete the above file by overwriting it with a blank dummy file, unless someone has a better idea. For anyone who has installed this, you have probably noticed the installation takes about 3 hours, so doing a whole reinstall to delete that one file isn't an attractive option. Again, I apologize for this. Bill Scott On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 06:55 PM, Ben Hines wrote: Figured it out. This is caused by the ccp4 pacakge. It sets something bad in its profile.d scripts. Not sure what, exactly, it would be good if the maintainer could figure out what variable breaks fink. -Ben On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 06:41 PM, Ben Hines wrote: I'm getting this warning too, now, with fink 0.11.1-10 installed. It may have been caused by the new X11, but that seems strange. ccache-2.1/unify.c Odd number of elements in hash assignment at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/PkgVersion.pm line 1748. Use of uninitialized value in list assignment at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/PkgVersion.pm line 1748. ../configure --prefix=/sw configure: Configuring ccache checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output... a.out snip... gcc -g -O2 -Wall -W -I. -prebind -o ccache ccache.o mdfour.o hash.o execute.o util.o args.o stats.o cleanup.o snprintf.o unify.o Use of uninitialized value in list assignment at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/PkgVersion.pm line 1734. rm -rf /sw/src/root-ccache-2.1-1 mkdir -p /sw/src/root-ccache-2.1-1/sw mkdir -p /sw/src/root-ccache-2.1-1/DEBIAN Use of uninitialized value in list assignment at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/PkgVersion.pm line 1734. mkdir -p /sw/src/root-ccache-2.1-1/sw/bin .. -Ben --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel William G. Scott Associate Professor Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA Sinsheimer Laboratories University of California at Santa Cruz Santa Cruz, California 95064 USA phone: +1-831-459-5367 (office) +1-831-459-5292 (lab) fax: +1-831-4593139 (fax) --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] system-xfree86-4.2-1
-- Package manager version: 0.11.1 Distribution version: 0.5.0a Mac OS X version: 10.2.3 Developer Tools not installed Feedback Courtesy of FinkCommander Hi folks, Not sure if this is the right avenue to take, but I am out of ideas. I have read the docs and done the initial fink installs AFTER installing the new Apple branded X11. Now fink will not allow the installation of the above packages. That's a bit of a pickle as a lot of the things I would like to try insist on installing this package before anything else! Below is a paste of the console session for me. --- Reading Package Lists... Building Dependency Tree... The following extra packages will be installed: dlcompat dlcompat-shlibs xfree86-base-shlibs The following NEW packages will be installed: dlcompat dlcompat-shlibs xfree86-base xfree86-base-shlibs 0 packages upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 44.2MB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Get:1 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.2/release/main dlcompat-shlibs 20021117-1 [7598B] Get:2 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.2/release/main dlcompat 20021117-1 [9690B] Get:3 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.2/release/main xfree86-base-shlibs 4.2.1.1-3 [1667kB] Get:4 http://us.dl.sourceforge.net 10.2/release/main xfree86-base 4.2.1.1-3 [42.5MB] Fetched 44.2MB in 1m12s (606kB/s) Selecting previously deselected package dlcompat-shlibs. (Reading database ... 3589 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking dlcompat-shlibs (from .../dlcompat-shlibs_20021117-1_darwin-powerpc.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package dlcompat. Unpacking dlcompat (from .../dlcompat_20021117-1_darwin-powerpc.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package xfree86-base-shlibs. Unpacking xfree86-base-shlibs (from .../xfree86-base-shlibs_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package xfree86-base. Unpacking xfree86-base (from .../xfree86-base_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb) ... You have an existing X11 installation in /usr/X11R6 and /etc/X11. This package refuses to overwrite these. Remove them, then tell Fink to install xfree86-base again. (The package won't be recompiled.) If you want to keep your X11 installation, install system-xfree86 resp. system-xtools instead to make this known to Fink's package system. Press Return to continue. dpkg: error processing /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/xfree86-base_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb (--unpack): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/xfree86-base_4.2.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb E: Sub-process /sw/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) --- I hope that this can help. Thanks! Scott --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] FIX for a bug I created: CCP4 OS X Users: I may have screwed up your fink installation -- here's the fix
Hi folks: I managed to create a bug in some people's fink installations. This will occur only if you installed ccp4, so fortunately that is a small user community. However, the immediate fix is sudo rm /sw/etc/profile.d/ccp4.sh Is there a way for fink to just do this automatically during a self-update or something? Meanwhile, I just sent the following message to the fink users list: Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue Jan 7, 2003 8:58:35 PM US/Pacific To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCP4 OS X Users: I may have screwed up your fink installation -- here's the fix Hi Folks: I am afraid I may have corrupted your fink installation if you used my fink-based ccp4 install script. As usual, I was trying to be clever without the IQ to back it up. Fortunately the fix trivial: sudo rm /sw/etc/profile.d/ccp4.sh This means you'll have to set things up the old fashioned way if you want to run ccp4 in bash user shell in OS X (why you would want to is beyond me, but ...). Anyway, I am really sorry for any problems this may have created for anyone. If you have been getting fink warnings of the form Odd number of elements in hash assignment at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/PkgVersion.pm line 1730. Use of uninitialized value in list assignment at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/PkgVersion.pm line 1730. this is the source of the problem. (This is almost as embarrassing as the time I flooded the third floor of the LMB with about 5" of water.) Again, sorry. William G. Scott Associate Professor Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA Sinsheimer Laboratories University of California at Santa Cruz Santa Cruz, California 95064 USA phone: +1-831-459-5367 (office) +1-831-459-5292 (lab) fax: +1-831-4593139 (fax)
[Fink-devel] Fwd: [Fink-users] What do you guys make of this?
I got the following response from Jordan Hubbard at Apple on Darwin OS Users list. Kow Begin forwarded message: From: Jordan Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue Jan 7, 2003 1:20:49 PM US/Pacific To: Kow K [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fink-users] What do you guys make of this? This was done in cooperation with the XFree86 project. The xonx project has, as far as I know, long-since been folded back into XFree86 and Torrey Lyons is an XFree86 project developer. As far as what's this? is concerned, I suggest you read the README provided in the distribution - it covers everything which was added. The fink-installed packages should also work just fine. - Jordan On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 11:49 AM, Kow K wrote: What's this? Kow Begin forwarded message: http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/ ??? Is this a parallel effort to that of the guys over at mrcla.com? Or is Apple attempting to compete with the xonx project? Should I install this (if the link ever becomes active) in lieu of XDarwin.app? Will my fink-installed packages work in Apple's X11? This is all too bizarre. Didn't see this coming AT ALL! --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users ___ darwinos-users mailing list | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/darwinos-users Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] binary available for new system-xfree86
The newest version of system-xfree86, required for use with Apple's X11, is now available in binary as well as source form. Binary users should run sudo apt-get update prior to following the instructions on Fink's website. Source users should run fink selfupdate-cvs prior to following the instructions. -- Dave --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] kdelibs3-ssl-dev depency issues
Le mercredi, 8 jan 2003, à 03:14 Europe/Paris, Pejvan BEIGUI a écrit : Benjamin Reed wrote: On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 08:38 PM, Pejvan BEIGUI wrote: Failed: can't batch-install packages: /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3- ssl_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl- dev_3.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb I don't think if this has already been reported... Yes. Removing the -dev packages and installing again should fix it. I'm sorry, but I'm kinda lost, your advice didn't work :( As you can see in the following log conectiva-crystal is making trouble, and I don't know how to remove it :( [3:12:19am] _pejvan_ ~ fink remove conectiva-crystal sudo /sw/bin/fink remove conectiva-crystal Information about 2057 packages read in 1 seconds. pkg conectiva-crystal version ### Failed: no version info available for conectiva-crystal [...] kdelibs3-ssl fournit conectiva-crystal et doit être installé. that's because conectiva-crystal is not a real package. try sudo dpkg -r --force-depends kde-icons-crystal, see the user ML fink install kdebase3-ssl fails thread. (Lecture de la base de données... 72795 fichiers et répertoires déjà installés.) Suppression de kdelibs3-ssl-dev ... How do you do to get accentuated words ? Here's what I get when I set my LANG to fr : (Lecture de la base de donn�es... 75439 fichiers et r�pertoires d�j� install�s.) -- zauc --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Apple's X11
http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/ Just thought y'all should know :-) -- Finlay --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Apple's X11
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 11:34 AM, Finlay Dobbie wrote: http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/ Just thought y'all should know :-) -- Finlay The user install download link at http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/download/ is broken currently. The SDK posted there won't help anyone, its just libraries and headers. For those who want to try it out later, when the download works. dpkg -r --force-depends xfree86-base dpkg -r --force-depends xfree86-base-shlibs install the SDK from apple - http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/ install the user install from apple - http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/download/ fink install system-xfree86 Hopefully it'll work, dont have the full installer from apple yet. -Ben --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Apple's X11
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 07:44 pm, Ben Hines wrote: The user install download link at http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/download/ is broken currently. The SDK posted there won't help anyone, its just libraries and headers. The text link in the sidebar works, the graphic one which links to a form doesn't. -- Finlay --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] (no subject)
Perhaps this is the solution to the entire Xfree Rootless debate. If Apple were to start shipping this by Default, or FINK were to officially recommend Apple's solution for a full installation of X11, and just use it's internal version for people who don't need the extra fluff. I'm surprised this wasn't mentioned at the keynote. -- http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/ Just thought y'all should know :-) -- Finlay -- Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] HANDS ON TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER, INC. One Village Square, Suite 8 Chelmsford, MA 01824 Phone: 1-800-413-0939 Fax: 1-978-250-4372 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Apple's X11
Another relevant link, which may indicate which way the wind is blowing, long-term: http://www.opendarwin.org/projects/darwinports/en/x11.php -- Dave On Jan 7,2003 19:34:12 +, Finlay Dobbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/ Just thought y'all should know :-) -- Finlay --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Apple's X11
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 01:44 PM, Ben Hines wrote: The user install download link at http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/download/ is broken currently. The SDK posted there won't help anyone, its just libraries and headers. For those who want to try it out later, when the download works. dpkg -r --force-depends xfree86-base dpkg -r --force-depends xfree86-base-shlibs install the SDK from apple - http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/ install the user install from apple - http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/download/ fink install system-xfree86 Hopefully it'll work, dont have the full installer from apple yet. -Ben Worked great for me. Thank, Ben. Chris --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] New Apple's X11
Apple is about to relase a X11 environment for Jaguar. Seems promising, with tight integration within Aqua. http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/ I think a placeholder package would be convenient. Has someone began to do that ? If not, I'll try to do it. -- Xavier http://www.freetibet.org http://www.tibet.fr/ --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] New Apple's X11
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 02:49 PM, Xavier HUMBERT wrote: Apple is about to relase a X11 environment for Jaguar. Seems promising, with tight integration within Aqua. http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/ I think a placeholder package would be convenient. Has someone began to do that ? If not, I'll try to do it. You're about 10 posts behind, Xavier. :-) Let me take this opportunity to mention one little complication I found a worked around: Apple's .pkg install doesn't overwrite your existing .xinitrc (a good thing, I think) so you need to add exec quartz-wm manually to get their WM. Chris --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] x11, another tale
And now to through Yet Another Monkey Wrench In, we have... http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/ so we need a dummy package that says I have Apple's X11 Server installed. Unless that's already completely and accurately described by something else on the list. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] x11, another tale
It's in the new system-xfree86 that Dave M. committed a few minutes ago. -- Alexander K. Hansen Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center Levitated Dipole Experiment 175 Albany Street, NW17-219 Cambridge, MA 02139-4213 On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: And now to through Yet Another Monkey Wrench In, we have... http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/ so we need a dummy package that says I have Apple's X11 Server installed. Unless that's already completely and accurately described by something else on the list. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
