Re: [Fink-devel] Fink Build Status; QA Proposal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Matthew Sachs wrote: snip This would let us validate submissions and automate the maintenance of the bindist (and even provide a bindist for unstable.) While I like that very much, there is a trust/security issue here which we have failed to address so far. We should sit down and think about it again. (signed packages, etc :) Thank you Matthew for all the hard work you put into this - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCnU4dPMoaMn4kKR4RAwVFAJ9vbDZgf0j1aMBhjFnN859awEz2gQCgkaUK Ga8QKhs+jzqnaZlrVYdtXp0= =zUXO -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] dpkg/status auto correction facility?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 - From time to time I get Setting build lock... /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -i /sw/src/fink.build/fink-buildlock-openssl097-0.9.7g-2_2005.06.01-10.23.39_darwin-powerpc.deb dpkg: parse error, in file `/sw/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 794 package `foo': Deleting the entries in question fixes things, should we maybe have an auto check for this? - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCnXDTPMoaMn4kKR4RA26JAJ4vwBb6W4pa3Iiv5YhV4i+3ZNga5ACdFhie aIMyoMoIfueSBqgQaZ8CLIg= =RmAX -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] glib2 on 10.4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Daniel Macks wrote: knghtbrd refers us to: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302672 to fix broken poll() behavior in glib2. Seems like adding -D_POLL_EMUL_H_ to CPPFLAGS would suffice for our pkg...(/me not near Tiger to test it right now). That spot in gmain.c is the only place that token is used in the sources. dan Just as a note. Tiger does not allow poll() on devices so if glib2 ever does that, it should use select() -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCd0QNPMoaMn4kKR4RA392AJ4wX2OtnkAXc/CA73vj7BtwMtP0jgCeIJ5U KMCaJ8DKstm8PV+sHGYdYaE= =m8SC -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Stary find processes hanging around.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hello. Was playing around with last weeks HEAD. Now I have (sometimes), something like this haging around 27042 std- U 0:00.02 /usr/bin/find /sw/var/lib/dpkg/info/ ( -type f - -or -type l ) -and -name *.shlibs -newer /sw/var/l 27094 std- U 0:00.02 /usr/bin/find /sw/var/lib/dpkg/info/ ( -type f - -or -type l ) -and -name *.shlibs -newer /sw/var/l 27140 std- U 0:00.01 /usr/bin/find /sw/var/lib/dpkg/info/ ( -type f - -or -type l ) -and -name *.shlibs -newer /sw/var/l They block all operations and are pretty tough to kill :)= - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCddu5PMoaMn4kKR4RAyigAJ4lWgkVA5O6/Y+Mm3AE/c/zWg3GLQCfV8GG HVBAUtFHUy9oLuPae36Oo/0= =xF1g -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Re: zsh not compiling on Tiger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Matthew Sachs wrote: On May 2, 2005, at 03:30, D. Höhn wrote: (Moving from -seed to -devel.) zsh should be told to use select instead of poll by undefing HAVE_POLL_H and HAVE_POLL in config.h. Yes, that is my fix as well. However I do not like that all too much, thus I am looking at the issue a bit closer. Expect spome checkin within this week The problem is that poll() on Tiger doesn't work on devices. The version of zsh shipped with the system has the change described above. Just seen that. Is that a feature? (grins). Well I guess the fix is pretty trivial then. I will see whether there are any other issues I can peek at while I am at it. - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCdeDmPMoaMn4kKR4RA4p3AJ9QwJDhnNSnvBpEW6ZoCwBQ+12VrQCfeNSh Y36Y4oNaSk0EDcmJ4BaCcfc= =pyTG -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Re: License for .info and .patch files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Daniel E. Macks wrote: | David R. Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: | |Here's my take on this licensing issue, for what it's worth. | |I think we should explicitly indicate that authors of .info files are |*contributing* those files to the fink project when they submit them for |inclusion in the fink trees. As contributed parts of the whole, these |files may be modified by others working on fink, and will be distributed |along with fink and under the same license conditions as fink itself | | | That makes a lot of sense. We should add a note about this on the | Submissions tracker new-item header. | Actually we should communicate this on the fornt page and add a good explanation as a seperate page why we are doinbg this and who agreed on doing it. so please give me the outline and I shall happily do the rest. ~ Even though I still pledge for dual licensing - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCSpcPPMoaMn4kKR4RA1asAJ9N/muPA75wB9UW0qrRWx04I64kvwCffCIS +kyoJ1Hg8Co/+u1WvjXZ/Wo= =Rlmz -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] latest fink, convinience Bug?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 When you develop away and you alter an info file, check it into CVs and then do something like: fink list --maintainer=Darian Fink has detected that your package index cache is missing or out of date, but does not have privileges to modify it. Re-run fink as root, for example with a fink index command, to update the cache. You see the error message. Is that a convenience bug? What ya think? - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCS6IHPMoaMn4kKR4RA7BlAJ9Lzi2X+J3pAZDQ3stRPcWNJTkyNQCeNtWW JRkD3WqAijf2fbAGx6foZJ0= =apJ9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by Demarc: A global provider of Threat Management Solutions. Download our HomeAdmin security software for free today! http://www.demarc.com/Info/Sentarus/hamr30 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Suggestions for a response?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Kurt Schwehr wrote: | Hey All, | Hello. | Any suggestions on what to respond with to with this? | I was hoping to get the USGS ISIS image processing | system into fink next year. I would like to respond | to this guy in a positive way that makes him think of | fink as a good thing and not adding to his load. Any | and all suggestions welcome! | I will try to answer in his text, so you can see why I am getting at it. | The proprietary code part is a problem, but if it is | truely small, I may be able to help replace that code | for them when I next get time/funding to work on | mission software stuff. | That is indeed a problem and it would have to go or have a very clear license before we could allow it to be distributed through Fink. snip | -kurt | | | http://isis.astrogeology.usgs.gov/IsisSupport/viewtopic.php?t=472 | | Hi Kurt... | | Adding ISIS to Fink is not feasible at the moment for | the following reasons: | | | | ISIS is built entirely independant of the Fink | environment. This is a concious decision we made | because we felt the Fink overhead was significant and | unnecessary (and we still feel that way). | What overhead? What is he talking about? Fink has a self-contained installer that brings everything it needs. When they develop on the Mac they need to have the Devel tools, SDK's and the like installed anyways and that is the only significant overhead that I can see. Now about the unecessary you will have to carefully inquire what exactly he feel is uncessary. | There is some proprietary code used in ISIS, albeit a | very small number of routines, but proprietary | none-the-less. This has to go, unfortunately so, but it has to. | | The effort required to make ISIS Finkable would be in | addition to our already preferred distribution method | (rsync) and probably substantial in comparison to our | current development environment (you do realize you | are asking us to migrate development, or at least | support, of Mac ISIS to the Fink environment). | This is simply wrong. What has their distribution method to do with it? As long as there is a tarball you can even rsync it with Fink and if you cannot i am sure there could be an effort made to add this. However, why would they have to migrate their build environment to Fink? Not to mention that their distribution method is rather non-standard and that will most likely lead to a very low acceptance in the OSS community. no matter how scientific the application is. They can a) support your work or b) simply supply an info file and that file gets checked and corrected by you. I think there are _many_ small steps that could be taken to complete support. | We have 3rd party software dependancies for the Mac | that exist only in binary form. We would like to take | advantage of the availability of binary versions of | software where ever possible to minimize support. | These are, but not limited to: | | | | OpenMotif | | A package called PGPLOT | | GNU Fortran Compiler (g77) | And? Just a matter of getting those packages into stable. That should not be something that is too hard. And if they _really_ wanted to, they could supply unofficial Fink builds as binaries of those deps. | | | We have limited support staff and resources to support | ISIS, let alone support the Mac OS X platform. | | But the Fink community does not. You should make that very clear to him. We guess, right about now, 250_000 people ar eusing Fink. if only a small fraction of those uses their system they get more Mac OS X support than they ever had and most likely ever will have. | | Fink is a great tool to migrate Unix/Linux software to | the Mac platform, but the downside is that Fink | software cannot run independant of that environment. Huh? Fink has _nothing_ to do with the runtime. You should make that very clear. Of course there are some tools needed to _install_ the stuff. but if you had the necessary infrastructure you could take a Fink package and have it run without a complete Fink install. | Our goal is to provide ISIS to the widest community | possible and minimize maintainence and installation | difficulties. | | In my opinion, DarwinPorts | (http://darwinports.opendarwin.org/) provides more | flexible (runs natively in the Mac environment) and | appealing (does not require the enduser to install | anything) Which we know is not entirely true either. | ISIS software development support. With this | approach, our ISIS developers can install the | necessary 3rd party software ISIS depends on and only | those software tools. We can then provide these | dependancies (i.e., shared libraries) with the ISIS | distribution. This scenario is obviously directly in | conflict with the Fink policy as you state. | | At this time, we do have a consistant development and | distribution configuration for all operating systems | we support (Linux, Solaris and Mac OS X). In my | opinion, adding Fink to this mix
[Fink-devel] Re: Licenses that don't fit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Daniel Henninger wrote: | Hi folk, | | I'm putting together an erlang package (with the intended goal of | packaging ejabberd as well). Erlang is governed by the Erlang Public | License, which is not one of the available licenses. So what do you | recommend I do? Thanks! | OSI-Approved - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFB5R63PMoaMn4kKR4RA8oiAKCd5yLk+i7z25SF4EyqbVLgrmlkEACcCNgb 0N2TGRZ+nSLcopfk0IVZ7DE= =x+5k -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] OT Re: How to force twolevel_namespace
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Peter O'Gorman wrote: | Martin Costabel wrote: | | | Now here comes my questions for the experts: What is the recommended way | | to persuade freetype2 to build twolevel images? I did the following | | brute-force hack: The freetype2.info file has | | | | perl -pi.bak -e 's/^allow_undefined_flag.*/allow_undefined_flag=\\/' | libtool h purdy new pgp key :) - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFB43l8PMoaMn4kKR4RAyn9AJ0TmSpSrrN0+V471fBDsMgwgSDoKgCfXnGG 6S5c0PDPaQWX6AozTJPBpdU= =f5/A -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] lifetime of static variables
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Dave Vasilevsky wrote: | On Dec 22, 2004, at 2:24 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: | | Is this different from using the -single-module linker flag? The | latter is often recommended for problems with static initializers. | | | According to Apple, it's exactly the same thing: | http://developer.apple.com/releasenotes/DeveloperTools/ | CompilerTools.html . I guess when I looked into the issue for arts | way back during the KDE port it was before they added the | -single_module flag. | | For the benefit of anybody who needs to search for this later: To deal | with static initializers not running on OS X due to lazy linking, | | executables: link with -Wl,-bind_at_load | libraries: link with -single_module | This should bein the porting guide. Maybe even in the FAQ. Unfortunately I cannot write a blurb. I know too little. If you supply a blurb to fink-i18n@ I will take care that it gets added. - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBymtNPMoaMn4kKR4RA4LGAJ0ctgY51gzwBXy3828Ve8mEbIeMRQCgmnix XEdQSomVDhQS6JfcGF1LNaI= =oeA2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Sylpheed and gpgme 1.0.1 Incompatibility
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Emily Jackson wrote: | Sylpheed (one of whose dependencies is gpgme) and the new version of | gpgme are not compatible at all. If Sylpheed is already installed and | gpgme is upgraded to 1.0.1, Sylpheed crashes on launch because the file | /sw/lib/libgpgme.6.dylib can't be found. If Sylpheed is (re)built after | gpgme 1.0.1 is installed, the build fails: Should be fixed. | | gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\Sylpheed\ snip | | The build failure has been discussed on the Sylpheed mailing list | http://www.tmtm.org/cgi-bin/w3ml/sylpheed/msg/23639. Perhaps | sylpheed(-ssl)'s info files could be changed to specify the older | version of gpgme, because it certainly won't work (or even build) with | the new version. | I am looking into this. The fix does not seem trivial - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBvsZUPMoaMn4kKR4RA6wOAJ9xHP4NCzqmo8NiIM4dFXX4ypxnhACcCxh1 6xRBxy/m+y0OQguazIPMlsQ= =FjY1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Re: Proposed new policy on essential dependencies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 David R. Morrison wrote: | Dear Fink developers, | snip | Comments and discussion are welcome. | I think that this is the way to go. However, to handle this gracefully and to make sure that the users are notified of what is going on I would like to porpose the following steps. a) Notify the common user base that we are planning to make significant technical changes b) Announce that on the homepage and determine a time frame (maybe 1 or 2 days) c) Freeze the CVS for that time. Only allow updates to existing packages (so that the depends can be declared) do not accept updates to packages that are version specific (like new upstream version), do not accept new packages. d) Submit the new gettext and ncruses e) Have a 48 hours waiting period f) Thaw the tree g) Announce that we are done and that persisting issues should be reported. Did I forget anything? - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBiLnfPMoaMn4kKR4RA516AJsGNOXfC9PLi6mP5S7HadCK0WX6HACeKu7v rDZ8MkrMmRrws8KsTmdK/z8= =3QN7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588alloc_id=12065op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Re: zsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 William Scott wrote: | Dear David H. et al: | Goof morning. snip | | Please accept my apologies for wasting your time with this. | Please do not worry about it. You did not waste my time, I had a chance to look more closely at the package. This is important to me. Rtaher than having no feedback at all, I got some excellent one. This type of concern just shows me, that my work is worth somethign to someone. A good feeling. Thank you - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBhzVBPMoaMn4kKR4RA9VsAJ9v8HaE3ehZHXP3eEuIEvM+JBUj0gCfdG1a O1NVGfDcaJYEkLkg0F42LKQ= =PFKl -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588alloc_id=12065op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Re: zsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 William Scott wrote: |I am not really a hardcore zsh user yet | | | Would it help to have an OS X-friendly zsh set of configuration files? | | I've made some here: http://tinyurl.com/4k7a9 | | I could make this into a fink-compatable optional package if anyone would | be interested. | | | Bill | | Yeah baby :) and my zsh.info can either Depend or Recommend it :) - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBeOfVPMoaMn4kKR4RAzMVAKCHHiyJgaT2ieySWGUUWuf0oT9RkwCdFNBO KdVmcLfeh0msSzP+Z3UrwPg= =Drkd -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] In the name of Michèle Garoche - [TRANSLATION: uguide.en.xml], [COMMITS: uguide.en.xml] first chunk
Since the commits mail fails, but not the commit itself, here are the changes (only a first chunk, another chunk will come later), sorry for the trouble: Index: uguide.en.xml === RCS file: /cvsroot/fink/web/xml/users-guide/uguide.en.xml,v retrieving revision 1.16 retrieving revision 1.17 diff -r1.16 -r1.17 6c6 cvsid$Id: uguide.en.xml,v 1.16 2004/10/16 10:22:40 michga Exp $/cvsid --- cvsid$Id: uguide.en.xml,v 1.17 2004/10/21 08:48:47 michga Exp $/cvsid 9,10c9,10 emThis document is a work in progress./em The following older documents may offer a broader view: --- This document gives an overview over all features of Fink. (The following older documents may offer a broader view: 13c13 and the ReadMe.rtf included in the binary distribution disk image. --- and the ReadMe.rtf included in the binary distribution disk image.) 525c525,530 titleInstalling Packages from Source/title --- titleInstalling Binary and Source Packages with fink/title p The codefink/code tool will allow you to install packages that are not yet available in the xref chapter=intro section=src-vs-binbinary distribution/xref. /p 685,687c690 Upgrading is a bit more complicated if you use the source distribution. The procedure consists of two steps. --- If you use the source distribution the procedure consists of two steps. 1051c1054 pemIntroduced in a post-0.20.5 CVS version of fink./em If the Fink package ccache-default is installed, the cache files it makes --- pIf the Fink package ccache-default is installed, the cache files it makes 1052a1056 emOnly available in fink newer than version 0.21.0/em. 1328c1332 Note: not available until a CVS version of fink after 0.20.0. --- Only available in codefink/code newer than version 0.21.0 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Dear Maintainers/Users. I need your help.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Greetings Community. First of all, thank you for using Fink and supporting us. I have thought a very long time about our process of support. I think Fink can help the community to streamline this process in a better way. I would like to propose a way how our Maintainers and thus the users, can enjoy an even better Fink experience. This involves testing some setup and a specific idea I had. While most things in my head seem to be brilliant ideas, the reality often proves me wrong. I would need aroun 20 to 25 people to test this idea with. For now in private. Basically It involves testing a special ticketing system including a specific setup I have been thinking about. This would be especially helpful for Maintainers, it aims to take the burden of taken care of support requests off their shoulders, collecting them in a central place where they will be stored and managed. This setup would hold all support request in trust for the participating maintainers. The main goal I am trying to achieve is to present a proven way how we can improve our support at the end of this test run. If you are a package maintainer (that is prefered) or an interested power user that sends lots of support requests, please get back to me _off_ list and ask to be included in this test run. Thank you very much. - -d PS: THis is a CROSS-POST do _not_ reply to all lists. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBd4BYPMoaMn4kKR4RA9iEAJ49qWT4r4lbgukhpJCJoyLQf+FyyQCfZKGn bJVz0guVYp6UWAa2cchL1HE= =5NoV -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] In the name of Michèle Garoche - [TRANSLATION: uguide.en.xml], [COMMITS: uguide.en.xml] second and last chunk
Since the commits mail fails, but not the commit itself, here are the changes (second and last chunk), sorry for the trouble: [QUOTE] Index: uguide.en.xml === RCS file: /cvsroot/fink/web/xml/users-guide/uguide.en.xml,v retrieving revision 1.17 retrieving revision 1.18 diff -r1.17 -r1.18 6c6 cvsid$Id: uguide.en.xml,v 1.17 2004/10/21 08:48:47 michga Exp $/cvsid --- cvsid$Id: uguide.en.xml,v 1.18 2004/10/21 10:20:09 michga Exp $/cvsid 560c560,580 /p --- /p p For codefink/code versions since 0.23.0 you can tell it to try to download pre-compiled binary packages, if available, instead of building them. Just pass the xref chapter=usage section=options--use-binary-dist (or -b) option/xref to codefink/code. This can save you a lot of time. E.g. calling /p codeblockfink --use-binary-dist install wget-ssl/codeblock por/p codeblockfink -b install wget-ssl/codeblock p will first download all dependencies for wget-ssl that are available from the binary distribution and only build the remainder from source. This option can also be enabled permanently in the xref chapter=confFink configuration file/xref (fink.conf) or by running the command codefink configure/code. /p p More details about the codefink/code tool are available in the chapter xref chapter=usageUsing the fink Tool from the Command Line/xref. /p 739,740c759,774 packages. If you are using Fink commander, then follow the xref section=binbinary/xref instructions, followed by those for xref section=srcsource/xref. /p --- packages. /p p Starting with fink 0.23.0 using the UseBinaryDist option (settable via the xref chapter=usage section=options--use-binary-dist (or -b) option/xref or in the xref chapter=confFink configuration file/xref) both source and binary descriptions will be updated if you call codefink selfupdate/code. In this case you don't need a separate codeapt-get/code call anymore. /p p If you are using Fink Commander select Binary-gt;Update descriptions to update the package list, and then Binary-gt;Dist-Upgrade packages to update to new versions. After that do Source-gt;Selfupdate to download new package information files, and then Source-gt;Update-all (see previous sections for details). /p 952a987,1014 li p emSelfUpdateMethod:/em point, rsync or cvs/p p Fink can use some different methods to update the package info files. emrsync/em is the recommended setting, it uses rsync to download only modified files in the trees that you have enabled. Note that if you have changed or added to files in the stable or unstable trees, using rsync will delete them. Make a backup first. emcvs/em will download using anonymous or :ext: cvs access from the fink repository. This has the disadvantage that cvs can not switch mirrors, if the server is unavailable you will not be able to update. empoint/em will download only the latest released version of the packages. It is not recommended as your packages may be quite out of date. /p /li li p emUseBinaryDist:/em boolean/p p Causes fink to try to download pre-compiled binary packages from the binary distribution if available and if the binary package is not already on the system. This can save a lot of installation time and it is therefore recommended to set this option. Passing fink the xref chapter=usage--use-binary-dist option/xref has the same effect, but only operates on that single fink invocation. emOnly available in fink newer than version 0.23.0/em. /p /li 1119a1182,1208 section name=options titleGlobal options/title p There are some options, which apply to all fink fink commands. If you type codefink --help/code you get the list of options: /p codeblock -h, --help- display this help text -q, --quiet - causes fink to be less verbose, opposite of --verbose -V, --version - display version information -v, --verbose - causes fink to be more verbose, opposite of --quiet -y, --yes - assume default answer for all interactive questions -b, --use-binary-dist - download pre-compiled packages from the binary distribution if available /codeblock p Most of these options are self-explanatory. They can also be set in the xref chapter=confFink configuration file/xref (fink.conf) if you want to set them permanently and not just for that invocation of codefink/code. /p p The code--use-binary-dist/code option causes codefink/code to try to download pre-compiled binary packages from the binary distribution if available and if the binary package is not already on the system. (Only available in
[Fink-devel] Re: zsh.info
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Cian Hughes wrote: snip | | ConfigureParams: --libexecdir=%p/libexec --mandir=%p/share/man | --infodir=%p/share/info --enable-zsh-secure-free --sysconfdir=%p/etc/zsh | --enable-etcdir=/etc/zsh --enable-fndir=%p/etc/zsh/%v/functions | --enable-site-fndir=%p/etc/zsh/%v/site-functions | --enable-function-subdirs --enable-maildir-support --enable-pcre Done. Thank you. I am not really a hardcore zsh user yet, that is why I rely on users to report these issues to me. - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBd9BDPMoaMn4kKR4RA/AvAKCcXGsptP/IPEXcU5IpDSJrg0BbngCfREss /C6V27azFsd8AAl2Zs4GB6k= =Nbtd -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/sci weka.info,NONE,1.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Daniel E. Macks wrote: | Kurt Schwehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: | |Update of /cvsroot/fink/dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/sci | |--- NEW FILE: weka.info --- |Package: weka |DescPort: |Didn't compile from source since that is just available from CVS. The |weka web site descributes a dmg for OSX and a zip for Linux. Both |contain a bunch of jar files. | |License: GPL | | | How do we feel about using precompiled-binary stuff in this manner (or | at all)? Would be better to roll a CVS snapshot tarball for fink and | serve it from Fink's SF space? | | dan | As lonmg as it is distributable and the license does not create any obligations on our side, why not. I see no reason to recompile or repackage if the forementioned constraints are met. - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBdKyiPMoaMn4kKR4RA9ncAJ9BiI2kxOQ1MKCzUz2srAVhgfXRMwCdE9Qj wxqZgKjHI36xSY3XuksUS9o= =B3BG -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Still care about GCC field?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Daniel Macks wrote: | I've seen some packages slip in lately that are C++, but do not | declare GCC:3.3 in the .info. Is this requirement still necessary? | yes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBYWWQPMoaMn4kKR4RA7YpAJ99lxoCvUMmv9BCIpyD2mw7+7WkPQCfYDUG uv7ePgisOwSN1elFRAJdFhA= =sZlg -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Re: Build trouble with ncpfs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Tim Fulcher wrote: | OK OK, I know this hasn't been ported to mac OS X, at least not that I can find. | I've seen several attempts, but nothing that seems complete. So I wondered | what the problems were... trying to compile it with --kernel-disabled (so it | doesn't require /usr/include/linux/..) creates a list of type def errors centred | around net/if.h . Have a look at http://www.osxfaq.com/man/4/netintro.ws That should get you started into the right direction. PS: I movd this thread to Fink-devel@ - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBW6C7PMoaMn4kKR4RA8wrAJ9WeXgTp4zHBYrBDUJ56sJLeJZFNgCfchd8 UORYqbVZVxbnFaZ847Veks0= =cAQL -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] 'fink show-deps' and 'apt-get --allow-broken'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Christian Schaffner wrote: snip | | The new apt could go into fink anyway, no? Are there any risks in just | adding the new apt.info file to the unstable tree? | As I did not have any time to look at this yet. Is this a patch against the _latest_ upstream source? APT needs an update, Peter (pogma) was working on it, but I do nto know how far he got. - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBW8khPMoaMn4kKR4RA3/YAKCTzFvkveKWVBrruUDh4h/KRylNmQCfdOQb qirv8isSYWla2AnoCtvf+Dc= =umn4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Custom mirror not selected by default
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Trevor Harmon wrote: | Hi, | | I'm in the process of creating my first Fink package, but I seem to | running into a minor problem with the CustomMirror field. I need to use | a custom mirror because the package is unavailable at any of the | standard Fink mirrors. So, I've specified the following in my .info file: | | CustomMirror: | nam-US: http://download.eclipse.org/technology/ajdt/ | | Source: mirror:custom:%n-%v.jar | | When Fink tries to install this package, it's supposed to download the | file at http://download.eclipse.org/technology/ajdt/aspectj-1.2.jar. At | least, that's what I think it should do, based on the fields above. | Instead, Fink for some reason tries to download the file at | http://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/aspectj-1.2.jar, which of course | is unavailable. This causes curl to return a failure, and I get this | prompt: | | (1) Give up | (2) Retry the same mirror | (3) Retry another mirror from your country | (4) Retry another mirror | (5) Retry using next mirror set Custom Mirror | | Now, my question is, why doesn't Fink go to the custom mirror I | specified in the first place? Because it is a good program and does exactly as you told it to do in your fink.conf. Have a look at the MirrorOrder: directive. Which can be set using fink configure. | Or at least, why doesn't Fink check the | other mirrors automatically, instead of prompting me? This is a design choice. We have often thought on different ways to handle such situations. We do agree that manual interaction is the best choice in this case. - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBT9HrPMoaMn4kKR4RA67BAJ9wDfEMD6B6SV5u7GnawnHUaWWU7ACfao5P I7Ot+o6oWb1SPWZI2ZDUNCs= =jQ3T -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Re: Custom mirror not selected by default
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Trevor Harmon wrote: | On Sep 21, 2004, at 12:02 AM, D. Höhn wrote: | | This is a design choice. We have often thought on different ways to | handle such situations. We do agree that manual interaction is the best | choice in this case. | | | Hmm... It still seems like a strange choice. I mean, why give up if | there are still more mirrors to search? Perhaps there is a mailing list | thread that explains what the thoughts were on this matter? | I do not have such at hand, but you might find some by searching the logs for the IRC channel, as well as the mailing list archives. | After all, I've seen some .info files that specify five or six custom | mirrors. Does that mean Fink will prompt me five or six times until it | finds the file? Or will it just prompt after failing in the master, and | then walk through the mirrors automatically, without prompting? | When a download fails, for whatever reason, you will get a prompt. If it fails six times, you will get a prompt six times, because you might choose to change the mirror set before you have walked through all X choices of a particular one. | OK, how about this: Let's say I get my .info working, and it gets | accepted into the main Fink distribution (whatever that means). Will the | source tarball for the package (or jar or whatever it is) eventually be | placed into http://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/? | As long as the License allows this, yes. See also message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBT/HQPMoaMn4kKR4RA+/ZAJ9lDwVgX3B9saU4yRePMhCec5zwZACfSQ4Z 0gmGQRxtk3hOG4/2+gXxZMw= =0OKh -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/text texshop.info,NONE,1.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Martin Costabel wrote: snip | finkprefix/Applications, and there is a symlink in | /Applications/Fink. Since you are altering the system outside of finkprefix, has this been discussed? I might have missed it, I was away for a bit - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBSsCZPMoaMn4kKR4RA4jZAJ4ybi/ZP2ta1/2Xiu8necLB274OZQCcCR0p F1l3Osogg9yWz6fpIKKvU6I= =vnLp -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Re: an automated way to monitor web pages for changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 William Scott wrote: | Hi Folks: | | I've already discovered that maintaining several packages requires | constant vigilance with respect to software updates. Is there an | automated way to monitor a program's web site for version changes to | software that might then email me and awaken me from my seemingly | ever-increasing stupor? | | Many thanks in advance, Well I do use http://freshmeat.net/releases/167552/ for most web-pages. But beware, it is only suited for mostly static pages. ! webdiff is a powerful Web page update checker. It supports a variety of different methods (diff, size, date, MD5 sum, regexp) and only prints the URIs of the Web pages that changed so that its output can easily be used by other scripts (such as wget or mail).! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFA/g6FPMoaMn4kKR4RAxuyAKCJwLbm5BM2M6kQWsCuuAUNOt219wCeP8eA +m+ftQTVoI2Cb1JJ7hXIeYY= =zAKO -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=4721alloc_id=10040op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Patching rsync.info
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Blair Zajac wrote: | Anybody mind if I patch rsync.info with this patch? snip Have you verified that rsync still computes the checksums correctly when using your patch ? If you arer 100% sure, go ahead and check in your patched version. - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFA6OwCPMoaMn4kKR4RAzItAJ9sOjcNZPHwhc6tU5e7I9XDhIz7/wCfcwrn TCExm7NTbmYbRthRdXavKdg= =Bx5Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/crypto/finkinfo socat-ssl.info,NONE,1.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Christian Schaffner wrote: | Update of /cvsroot/fink/dists/10.3/unstable/crypto/finkinfo | In directory sc8-pr-cvs1.sourceforge.net:/tmp/cvs-serv1343/crypto/finkinfo | | Added Files: | socat-ssl.info I think we should no longer do that. I feel it is better to have an ssl variant rather than a -ssl.info file. Maybe I am overlooking something here (since crypto has its own section) but personally I feel we should not accept any _new_ -whatever variants that do not use the variants system we have. Please do correct me if I am getting something totally wring here - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFA4DEpPMoaMn4kKR4RA9+4AKCeqgYVaCDhuedxpA8mTLNZYGLynQCgiJDJ YJ2jCwYPmLRJhi3mvoX3KIE= =x6ZT -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Re: Doc bug - Bad heredoc syntax
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Martin Langhoff (NZL) wrote: | The CustomMirror example shows an incorrect heredoc syntax. It opens | with and closes with . Should close with . | snip And just for the record, please report such issues in the future to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for reporting it :) - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAvWv9PMoaMn4kKR4RAwgnAJ93E4hXxgUDFC4ypl7dJ6ZgQ6hltQCfYovV lHy+e/Ws/MPJ22clZWB41/Y= =fX68 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the new InstallShield X. From Windows to Linux, servers to mobile, InstallShield X is the one installation-authoring solution that does it all. Learn more and evaluate today! http://www.installshield.com/Dev2Dev/0504 ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/text cwtext.info,NONE,1.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Ben Hines wrote: | | On Apr 17, 2004, at 6:14 PM, Remi Mommsen wrote: | | Maintainer: Univ. of Tokyo Educational Computing System Tutors | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | I do not like this at all. If the package was made by Asari Takashi, IMO | he should be the maintainer. Group maintainers are bad. Research shows | that people are less likely to respond to untargeted messages to mailing | lists. | I suggested this. The University of Tokio will be supplying Fink with numerous packages, mainly targeted toward the Japanese user. Asari Takashi is only _one_ of the Tutors that take care of the submission and package creation Process at the University of Tokio. He might not always be able to answer requests, thus they created a catch-all account. This is just similar to fink-gnome, fink-kde. fink-core and so on.. I apologise for failing to explain this. My bad, sorry. - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAg4QmPMoaMn4kKR4RAxYYAJ9A1qtmmk3AaACNc2wKNfYX7yBqGgCfThPU 76S//CucWlR1zN2lCk0cJkg= =BfYb -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Re: [Fink-users] Problem updating fink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Daniel Macks wrote: snip | This is the latest of many such problem reports. It's easy enough to | have a hard-coded default for this mirror (as we do for other | mirrors). While I trust my mirror setup a lot (There are over 7 seperate DNS serving finkmirrors.net) I do not think that would be the crrect route to go. Hardcoded mirrors values are not somethign we should aim for and personally I beleive the one sthat we have should be made modular. | But it seems like there's an underlying problem with | Essential: yes of fink-mirrors not being respected? | Well, what I noticed is, that fink-mirrors is installed _after_ the new fink is executed. I guess, that it is problematic when the new fink tries to download an updated, essential package _before_ fink mirrors gets installed. Is there a way to bundle the install of fink-mirrors and fink _before_ executing the new fink ? - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAe3jAPMoaMn4kKR4RA6NRAJ4hj36a+ikIc/VuBQHQfR8OAQ+YgACgli3o qbPMynaoxuJu7Q862g3Rsz0= =EIua -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] fink documentation needing updates ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Pejvan BEIGUI wrote: | Hi all, | | It seems that that the fink documentation may need an overall update, | since there are some parts which have not been updated for a while. | | For example, on http://fink.sourceforge.net/download/index.php | the download suggested is the 0.6.2 release. | Yes, that is correct. There has not been any _official_ release yet and it will be a couple of days yet. | If needed, I may help in doing so starting from the 10th of april. | You are welcome to, every bit of help is appreciated on [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAa/iePMoaMn4kKR4RA/0rAJ0USyIuEzpiLURiBeW2x6RAT9msqwCgjxih IGJ1gTS7H8whHewI5uJQWgY= =DXWM -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] no updates for two days?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Randal L. Schwartz wrote: |Martin == Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | | Martin On 1 avr. 2004, at 14:36, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: | |Did everyone go home? :) | | Benjamin it might be my rss feed is acting up... I've seen updates... | |$ find /sw/fink/10.3 -name '*.info' -mtime -2 -print |[crickets chirp, nothing happens] | | | Martin If you want to see what people are amusing themselves with, you can | Martin have a look at the cvs commits mailing list archives at | Martin http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.cvs . For March 30, there | Martin are over 50 entries... | | OK, so that means that something is broken in the rsync mechanism, eh? | | How soon before that's fixed? | Most likely as soon as someone complained to the Master Rsync maintainer, which I am doing this moment. - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAbB+uPMoaMn4kKR4RAwEQAKCESzA1SUDDX/bw/oTjBHFBg1K3XwCgh5Uf lB37MyYGxJnxh9eiGOcSX9M= =gZY2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] no updates for two days?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Randal L. Schwartz wrote: | I haven't seen any .info files updated at all for the past two days. | Did everyone go home? :) | Nope. we simply decided to stop Fink all in all :) (remember the date is 01.04.2004.. ) - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAa63yPMoaMn4kKR4RA3jBAJ9Tx6FLWvqOdKNIY0KT0iz86VaPOACglDdp wfnNIPjt8oVimzP/jYEM6D0= =itaI -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] rxtx package sun's licensing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Matthias Ringwald wrote: snip | | so the main question is: how could we deal with sun's licensing ? | In this case I would honestly Call SUN, describe the situation and see if this is Restrictive/Distributable | thanks, | matthias ringwald | | | | --- | This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials | Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of | GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system | administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click | ___ | Fink-devel mailing list | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAXu/nPMoaMn4kKR4RA6QqAJ9YCWNbDMI8mr21DdqeXeu4Q/tzXQCgiGc4 xkU7ceO/9R9ro+FjFnidexQ= =uhp6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] could someone help me check this NEW url?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 James Gibbs wrote: | | On Mar 21, 2004, at 6:39 PM, William Scott wrote: | | For those who had trouble with the ftp, would you be kind enough to | check this link to see if it works? : | | http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~garib/refmac/latest_refmac.html | | If it does, then I will switch it. If it doesn't, I wouldn't mind | some advice on what to do... | | Thanks. | | Bill Scott | | | The web page is fine, but the files are on ftp.ysbl.york.ac.uk/, which | gives me: | | jgibbs% ping ftp.ysbl.york.ac.uk/ | ping: unknown host ftp.ysbl.york.ac.uk/ | | I'm using just the default Comcast DNS. | I thought we were allowed to put files on the darwinports server as a | primary source. Anyone know about this? I do and to correct this, no manual file upload is allowed. If that software is not _restricted_ in the LIcense field and the opendarwin server can reach the source location it will be picked up automagically. - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAXpMGPMoaMn4kKR4RA5LBAJ42hYP0NATB0FgqR1sPmRzZhB+NWQCfTGA3 lynKXYXio0EP4Ap4yI6IzcY= =+qm8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Zsh Broke init.sh Again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 James Devenish wrote: | Hi, | Hello Mister Devenish and thank you for your work. | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] | on Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 12:11:58PM +0100, Max Horn wrote: | |I would greatly prefer if we do *not* add an init.zsh unless we |absolutely must. | This is something I have to agree on with Mister Horn. | snip | |It would simply complicate setup for the novice user (and complicate |the docs, too). | | | Well, setup is already complicated for users that have Zsh as their | shell, because init.sh generates error messages and hasn't worked | since last year. (In my experience, at least.) | Since it has been broken there has been little to no mentioning of it being broken, which leads me to believe that we do not have too many zsh users. While that does not necessarily facilitates a necessity not to support zsh properly, it does imply that we might be better off trying to integrate as much support as possible into the existing setup procedure while covering possible mistakes in proper documentation or a special section of the FAQ. Does this sound reasonable to you zsh users out there? If so I will gladly listen to the specifics of ZSH and mail those question/Answer pairs to the FAQ maintainer. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAUvT6PMoaMn4kKR4RA/8uAJwLkfUdtKs8rAS2Rj3vd1lU4biiHgCeN76O 442BjycK/xKCvZGZbdUJkk0= =7wZO -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Re: adding libevent to the 10.2-gcc3.3 tree
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 rayg wrote: | please add libevent to the 10.2-gcc3.3 tree. a user has successfully | built it and wishes to use it in that tree. | done -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFARufgPMoaMn4kKR4RA0khAKCOf6QMdoqRSNJV7Qq3VKID2J0mzQCgjpMw fGC55Ab7BDUekV9qxzOBtek= =IMKj -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] [Fwd: fink installation]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Is this correct? - Original Message Hi, read and followed your quick start to download and install fink. Got an errormessage /usr/sbin/nm not found! Maybe you should mention that in the quick start doc. - -first install developer tools for mac, then install fink! Is it essential for fink to run? I installed it and ran fink scanpackages; fink index again. cherio matthias -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFANJRsPMoaMn4kKR4RA9rAAJ43O8xx9SSHdsEPqeP61mrbs//4jwCggh0g /cImm5XrFh0JJEutItFT7QE= =vUAB -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Offer to help with Docs Design
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Kyres wrote: | Hi there! | | I would like to offer my help in the Fink Documentation Project as well as | lend some assistance to the web design of the Fink site. | | I¹m not a programmer, but as an end-user I think I can offer some | suggestions to make the documentation easier to understand and access. | | I¹d love to help... Just point and tell me what to do :) | | Khim~ | Just a note. I already sanctioned this, so Alexander, please point Khim to areas where you might wish for some help. I suggested, that she could consolidate all references to 10.1 into one document as a starter. - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAMMn5PMoaMn4kKR4RA36QAJwMzPSDLmU9i5n55CePXGzL6o43OgCfcGhS aFbEZiEPtP7hGjMjc8Br5+A= =i2i7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id56alloc_id438op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] non-core package submissions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Here's a heretical thought: | | I've never been 100 % convinced that most of the stuff I have submitted | even belongs in fink. | | Much of it is rather specialized, like programs for X-ray | crystallography and other types of biophysics techniques. These programs | have a very specialized user community, and for those, they are | absolutely essential, and for everyone else, they are probably | absolutely useless. ..and here the PR dude kicks in... Hello :) I have to disagree, since I see this as one of our good areas. The Macintosh itself has an already narrowed and very special user community. I have learned much in the past few months and I understood that we seem to be seing three main groups with Mac os X. People from a scientific background where Macs seem to be strong People switching or having an additional Machine now being a Mac coming from UNIX People from the classic Mac OS 9 world with a more graphic like background Thus to me it is essential, that one can serve all those groups and their special needs. Having many scientific programs in Fink makes it sometimes and essential tool for those professors and students, which is a big plus to us. snip | I keep a web site that has more up to date and often less broken | versions of almost everything that I have in fink unstable, along with | instructions for users on how to install in fink's local tree. | This is something I have to disagree with. Rather than splitting your effort out of the main loop you should simply ask for a CVS account. People like you, who have managed, maintained and created packages are more than welcome to update them in the main trees. This is ment to keep things tightly packed, as a Fink User I would not want to collect updated files from anywhere else than the Fink mirrors. | So maybe the first step would be some sort of formalized executive | decision making process whereby those in charge and who have a good | sense of the nature of the user community's requirements, could make a | decision on whether or not a package should be in fink at all. I | actually advise people my web site NOT to use packages of mine in fink | unstable, because they are out of date and aren't in the 10.3 branch, as | the updates are sitting in the queue. Hence at this point I would be | better off if my stuff in fink unstable was simply removed, unless it is | updated. | As I mentioned above. Please request CVS commit rights to 10.2-gcc3.3 and 10.3. I am sure you are more than capable of taking care of your packages. There is no need for some sort of exectuive decision. The info files are relatively tiny, the distribution method via rsync is now very efficient, so as long as we are not distribution some info files for software that will get us in legal problems, every piece of software is welcome. If one or two people use it, it's enough reason to have it. | Fink could even host a page on its web sites with links to maintainers | of more specialized software packages, like mine, instead of formally | including it in the fink distribution. As I said above. I do not see any benefit in this approach. You are more than qualified to get CVS commit rights and that is nothing we will deny most likely. A mail to fink-core asking for those rights should be sufficient, since you have maitained packages for a long time, I believe you know what you are doing. | It would be then up to the | individual niche user communities to see that the packages work | correctly. With you having (hopefulyl soon) commit rights, it becomes your responsobility and your communities responsibilty to make sure that the packages work right. Yet, since the community of those packages reports to you as the maintainer, you will then be able to react immideately. For unstable that is not as critical, yet for stable you will have the fine tuned access to decide when to move the packages. - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE//QlBPMoaMn4kKR4RA8vQAJ0c8za+wI86+LI4NzA7DGnRN6U3rgCfcKsv 9b7Iuj6w5YObHQoo4gkHAzE= =7jGH -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. Perforce is the Fast Software Configuration Management System offering advanced branching capabilities and atomic changes on 50+ platforms. Free Eval! http://www.perforce.com/perforce/loadprog.html ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] dpkg-deb failed, exit code 10 or 11
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Martin Costabel wrote: | I am forwarding a message from today's fink-users list here, in the hope | that someone with better memory or better insight knows the source of | this problem. | | This has been coming come up very regularly, I find about a dozen | complaints like this in the past two months, and it should certainly be | in the FAQ. It isn't, because nobody seems to know where it comes from | and what to do about it (in particular, you cannot reinstall dpkg when | dpkg is not working). | | The people complaining about it seem to have proceeded to either | reinstalling Fink from scratch or disappearing from the Fink scene | completely. | Since I do not know the fix, I will ask you this: Xould you provide a Q/A pait ? I will check it into the FAQ as soon as I have it and it has been verified here | Not a good situation. | I agree -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE//QsEPMoaMn4kKR4RAwBLAJ96vk1IdXVTotE7xPuqdVj8u1RrAACgjHFU 4e53FilVXssB1DBtGTTCI+8= =JRj5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. Perforce is the Fast Software Configuration Management System offering advanced branching capabilities and atomic changes on 50+ platforms. Free Eval! http://www.perforce.com/perforce/loadprog.html ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] dpkg-deb failed, exit code 10 or 11
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Martin Costabel wrote: | D. Höhn wrote: | [] | | Xould you provide a Q/A pait ? I will check it into the FAQ as soon as I | have it and it has been verified here | | | As soon as someone has an idea what to put into the A part :-) | I haven't. | Isn't this related to the old prebinding bug? Thus rebuilding gettext should fix the whole issue. I know that this is fairly hard with a broken dpkg, so I guess reinstalling is the correct answer until a revivised installer is published. - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE//RHUPMoaMn4kKR4RAzzUAKCSRQNTDGHj+JV6SxOsZAaYTJm0HgCgmgPq sNnDw7lsVmf5xZcUBToKvsU= =WClu -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. Perforce is the Fast Software Configuration Management System offering advanced branching capabilities and atomic changes on 50+ platforms. Free Eval! http://www.perforce.com/perforce/loadprog.html ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] bin-dist made more regularely
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Alexander K. Hansen wrote: snip | | I, personally would like to see a faster turnover of packages that lots of | people use from unstable to stable. | The problem you describe uo there depends soley on user feedback. If I add package foo on the 13. and I get 30 good reports on the 25. you might see me moving it to stable on the 16. This is how we handled it in teh past and it has proven to be a goo strategy. Packages which have a high demand, which are used and where there are no trouble reports get moved by the maintainer or in rare cases by the core developers. - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/2ZhiPMoaMn4kKR4RA5zfAJ4wvjId5ngNmq5yA7BVN7meMLqWQgCfWjrU fddbj8Q6zXz5CiaY7+LBNN0= =0dPE -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: I am giving this 24 hours - (Re: [Fink-devel] Is it ok to remove phpmyadmin and pws from the web-module?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 D. Höhn wrote: | Darian Lanx wrote: | | | Hello | | | | I am a bit on the cleaning trip. | | Is the subdirectory pws or phpmyadmin in the web module still in use? | | Thank you | | | | -d | | | | Just a follow up to my own mail. Since no one screamed and shouted at | me, I am giving this 24 hours, then I will cvs remove the pws and | phpmyadmin folders from teh web-module. There is no use keeping them in | there, forcing people to updated them on their cvs up runs when no one | actually uses the data stroed in the folders. | | -d Geezes you people are picky ;) I will remove the data contained in teh two mentioned flders so that it does not have to be checked anymore better? ;) see yas - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.3.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/1XJYPMoaMn4kKR4RA0XfAKCdFZJtKvcf6/mmDYYRzIqkxLyVPwCffT3r yWXTQacSTNUV8b9hh3n7euY= =wOs5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] new fink commands
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 TheSin wrote: | I just added these two commands to fink HEAD, dmalloc should be adding | them to the man pages for me tomorrow, please provide feedback. | | fink splits - returns a list of children of a pkg including it's parent | | fink find - returns only the parent of a pkg for quick reference. snip Actually I have been thinking about this while I drove to work and I think splitoffs or even splits is badly named. TheSin and I did stick with the parent - Children theme because it has a certain phsychological indication and thus it would make those commands suitable even for none developers. I would suggest that you name the actual switches children and parent Furthermore naming it this way would indicate two things: There can be many children but only _one_ parent. Is that correct? I wont be adding to the man page until this has been decided on. Personally I do nto feel this is a developer only command. - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.3.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/1W+QPMoaMn4kKR4RA53uAKCRV8FCNDqo/aImZAnKD2be4XBSFgCcCUXe 1KcQu3it5IyXlZMro7gBefg= =twi3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
I am giving this 24 hours - (Re: [Fink-devel] Is it ok to remove phpmyadmin and pws from the web-module?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Darian Lanx wrote: | Hello | | I am a bit on the cleaning trip. | Is the subdirectory pws or phpmyadmin in the web module still in use? | Thank you | | -d | Just a follow up to my own mail. Since no one screamed and shouted at me, I am giving this 24 hours, then I will cvs remove the pws and phpmyadmin folders from teh web-module. There is no use keeping them in there, forcing people to updated them on their cvs up runs when no one actually uses the data stroed in the folders. - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.3.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/1XB5PMoaMn4kKR4RA93DAJ9+wxQ/bQ6V9FCvI5Pa9GCoq52zLQCgiAxf MkeHMvdPT5yVL0wmVwwU/F4= =LEqF -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Re: Who did commit unstable/util/hflf on Sun Nov 23 17:53:36 2003 ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Arnaud Launay wrote: snip | | Anyway, for the placement: in FreeBSD and OpenBSD, hlfl is | classified under security, it's under net-misc in Gentoo and | net in Debian. How do you call something which create firewall | rules, if not related to net ? | As I stated before. To me this is a utility which generates firewall rules. It doe snot matter that it generates Firewall rules and firewalls are associated with the net. All that matters, is that it is a utility to do something. hlfl has no direct interaction with the net thus I do not belive that it belongs into the section net. But themna again many things which are in net might not really belong there, thus it is pretty up to the package maintainer. :) I was just stating my personal opinion - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.3.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/zu6tPMoaMn4kKR4RA3GiAJ9vr+WZch9nkAFGpRrEIwhMRT1ZswCfQvi3 pxaeyxlqAd96jNJnWwr/MM8= =KjS+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Don't disable tests. Report the failure. (was Re: fink ChangeLog,1.181,1.182 Makefile,1.4,1.5)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 TheSin wrote: | David is the Project lead :) If he is asking then the fink-core doesn't | know :) | I am the project lead? Gee thank you Justin ;) g -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/vOfCiW/Ta/pxHPQRA1uJAJ9SKfjhkUuW+e0Z/BvIdmxSo2kF6gCfWP2h g0WcPWtsRs1jPPV277r0Ye4= =4rUr -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Fink module documentation, tests and all that icky stuff.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Michael G Schwern said the following on 10/30/03 2:36 AM: snip I'd like to keep going, but there's been no motion on any of the above. So... are you folks interested in testing and documenting Fink::*? Would you like me to continue? Hello Mister Schwern, my name is david Höhn (net alias Darian Lanx) and I am somewhat looking after the administrativa for Fink. I would be very glad to have you on board, since documentation and proper testing of the actual fink engine is something that we badly lack. There has been some great efforts by Mister Hansen and Mister Fujinaka to keep the man-pages and User documentation as well as the FAQ up-to date, yet the developer documentation for the code that fink intself user is nearly non existant. If you would like to continue this important work, I would be more than happy to setup a roadmap of your goals and sync them with the Fink team, being your proxy. As Mister Reed said, we are very interested in additional patches to further improve fink and I am sure that you could be added to the development team as soon as the main developers know how you work and how you could improve Fink as a whole. On a related note: how important is backwards compatibility? Some of the Fink::* function interfaces are a bit wonky and could do with some fixing. For example, the tendency for classes to export functions. Lots of exported global variables where class methods should be used. Exported global variables not being distinguished from local variables with $Uppercase. Inconsistent method names (new_with_* vs new_from_*). All basic stuff. According to some including perl guru Mister Schwartz the classes and their model could use some work. Maybe even redoing them with something like Class::MethodMaker. If you feel, that you have the time to improve the handling of that and thus improve fin itself, please do so. Are you worried someone other than fink is using this code and do you care? I would say, that this is not really a concern we are currently looking at, yet it is important, especially to me, that we keeo the documentation availaible that someone COULD do so if they wanted to. Can I go ahead and supply patches that will improve and change the module interface? As I said above, yes of course. According to some it is bitterly needed. Furthermore the Dependency enhone seems to need a reqrite, yet no one is willing to touch it. Do you want to ? Thank you for your efforts - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/oPzyiW/Ta/pxHPQRAxbrAKDS1QsN03oZ3f6Bg0GJuMHeVvfJDwCgjIwq aA2smvQS2NPZegTyyGRIK6A=RB8f -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Being Back, doing announcements, Improvements and so on...
hallo Gang. No, I have not been temporarily killed and I have risen from the dead now and no, you did not manage to get rid of me. I was on bussiness in Switzerland and I simply happened to come back today. I would appreciate it, if we could wait until at least Friday for further annoucements or releases. Not only because Wendsday is a bad day for such things, but also because I do have to catch up on a lot of things. Seems like a busy weekend. Apart from that I am happy to see so much interest lately. I hope that is ok for you? -d --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] GPG maintainer?
Quoting Kristofer Widholm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am wondering if anyone is maintaining the GPG package. GPG is up to version 1.2.1. The latest version in Fink (0.4.0) was GPG 1.0.7, and there is no version available for Fink (0.5.0 Jaguar). gpg 1.2.1 is still in the unstable Tree. It is being actively maintained. I am working on a list o packages which I will ask the maintainers to move, gpg is one of them. IN the menatime you should simply add the unstable tree to your fink.conf. Please note, that there are no binary packages for the unstable tree. For more info about the unstable tree and how to run it, please see the website and the docu section. -d --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Can someone add fink validate docs somewhere I can find them?
Quoting Hisashi T Fujinaka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: snip So if you want people to validate their packages prior to submission, it should be more prominent on the web pages and maybe in fink --help somewhere. Otherwise you get guys like me with short memories spinning their wheels looking for it. I will look into the issue as soon as the holidays are over. Thank you for mentioning it, but please do CC me a direct mail whenever you find something to be wrong with the docs. Sometimes I might not catch a mail from the mailing lists, especially when I am on holidays. I will see to it, that I can at least alter the fink --help output to reflect this as soon as the holidays are over. - your friendly docs maintainer --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel