Re: [Fink-devel] Fink Build Status; QA Proposal

2005-06-01 Thread D. Höhn
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Matthew Sachs wrote:
snip This would let
 us validate submissions and automate the  maintenance of the bindist
 (and even provide a bindist for unstable.)
 

While I like that very much, there is a trust/security issue here which
we have failed to address so far. We should sit down and think about it
again. (signed packages, etc :)

Thank you Matthew for all the hard work you put into this

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[Fink-devel] dpkg/status auto correction facility?

2005-06-01 Thread D. Höhn
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- From time to time I get

Setting build lock...
/sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -i
/sw/src/fink.build/fink-buildlock-openssl097-0.9.7g-2_2005.06.01-10.23.39_darwin-powerpc.deb
dpkg: parse error, in file `/sw/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 794
package `foo':

Deleting the entries in question fixes things, should we maybe have an
auto check for this?

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Re: [Fink-devel] glib2 on 10.4

2005-05-03 Thread D. Höhn
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Daniel Macks wrote:
 knghtbrd refers us to:
 
   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302672
 
 to fix broken poll() behavior in glib2. Seems like adding
 -D_POLL_EMUL_H_ to CPPFLAGS would suffice for our pkg...(/me not near
 Tiger to test it right now). That spot in gmain.c is the only place
 that token is used in the sources.
 
 dan
 
Just as a note. Tiger does not allow poll() on devices so if glib2 ever
does that, it should use select()
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[Fink-devel] Stary find processes hanging around.

2005-05-02 Thread D. Höhn
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Hello.

Was playing around with last weeks HEAD. Now I have (sometimes),
something like this haging around

27042 std- U  0:00.02 /usr/bin/find /sw/var/lib/dpkg/info/ ( -type f
- -or -type l ) -and -name *.shlibs -newer /sw/var/l
27094 std- U  0:00.02 /usr/bin/find /sw/var/lib/dpkg/info/ ( -type f
- -or -type l ) -and -name *.shlibs -newer /sw/var/l
27140 std- U  0:00.01 /usr/bin/find /sw/var/lib/dpkg/info/ ( -type f
- -or -type l ) -and -name *.shlibs -newer /sw/var/l


They block all operations and are pretty tough to kill :)=

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[Fink-devel] Re: zsh not compiling on Tiger

2005-05-02 Thread D. Höhn
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Matthew Sachs wrote:
 On May 2, 2005, at 03:30, D. Höhn wrote:
 
 (Moving from -seed to -devel.)
 
 zsh should be told to use select instead of poll by undefing
 HAVE_POLL_H and HAVE_POLL in config.h.

 Yes, that is my fix as well. However I do not like that all too much,
 thus I am looking at the issue a bit closer. Expect spome checkin  within
 this week
 
 
 The problem is that poll() on Tiger doesn't work on devices.  The 
 version of zsh shipped with the system has the change described above.
 
Just seen that. Is that a feature? (grins).
Well I guess the fix is pretty trivial then. I will see whether there
are any other issues I can peek at while I am at it.

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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: License for .info and .patch files

2005-03-30 Thread D. Höhn
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Daniel E. Macks wrote:
| David R. Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
|
|Here's my take on this licensing issue, for what it's worth.
|
|I think we should explicitly indicate that authors of .info files are
|*contributing* those files to the fink project when they submit them for
|inclusion in the fink trees.  As contributed parts of the whole, these
|files may be modified by others working on fink, and will be distributed
|along with fink and under the same license conditions as fink itself
|
|
| That makes a lot of sense. We should add a note about this on the
| Submissions tracker new-item header.
|
Actually we should communicate this on the fornt page and add a good
explanation as a seperate page why we are doinbg this and who agreed on
doing it. so please give me the outline and I shall happily do the rest.
~ Even though I still pledge for dual licensing
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[Fink-devel] latest fink, convinience Bug?

2005-03-30 Thread D. Höhn
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When you develop away and you alter an info file, check it into CVs and
then do something like:
fink list --maintainer=Darian
Fink has detected that your package index cache is missing or out of
date, but does not have privileges to modify it.
Re-run fink as root, for example with a fink index command, to update
the cache.
You see the error message. Is that a convenience bug? What ya think?
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Re: [Fink-devel] Suggestions for a response?

2005-03-17 Thread D. Höhn
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Kurt Schwehr wrote:
| Hey All,
|
Hello.
| Any suggestions on what to respond with to with this?
| I was hoping to get the USGS ISIS image processing
| system into fink next year.  I would like to respond
| to this guy in a positive way that makes him think of
| fink as a good thing and not adding to his load.  Any
| and all suggestions welcome!
|
I will try to answer in his text, so you can see why I am getting at it.
| The proprietary code part is a problem, but if it is
| truely small, I may be able to help replace that code
| for them when I next get time/funding to work on
| mission software stuff.
|
That is indeed a problem and it would have to go or have a very clear
license before we could allow it to be distributed through Fink.
snip
| -kurt
|
| 
| http://isis.astrogeology.usgs.gov/IsisSupport/viewtopic.php?t=472
|
| Hi Kurt...
|
| Adding ISIS to Fink is not feasible at the moment for
| the following reasons:
|
|
|
| ISIS is built entirely independant of the Fink
| environment. This is a concious decision we made
| because we felt the Fink overhead was significant and
| unnecessary (and we still feel that way).
|
What overhead? What is he talking about? Fink has a self-contained
installer that brings everything it needs. When they develop on the Mac
they need to have the Devel tools, SDK's and the like installed anyways
and that is the only significant overhead that I can see. Now about the
unecessary you will have to carefully inquire what exactly he feel is
uncessary.
| There is some proprietary code used in ISIS, albeit a
| very small number of routines, but proprietary
| none-the-less.
This has to go, unfortunately so, but it has to.
|
| The effort required to make ISIS Finkable would be in
| addition to our already preferred distribution method
| (rsync) and probably substantial in comparison to our
| current development environment (you do realize you
| are asking us to migrate development, or at least
| support, of Mac ISIS to the Fink environment).
|
This is simply wrong. What has their distribution method to do with it?
As long as there is a tarball you can even rsync it with Fink and if you
cannot i am sure there could be an effort made to add this. However, why
would they have to migrate their build environment to Fink?
Not to mention that their distribution method is rather non-standard and
that will most likely lead to a very low acceptance in the OSS
community. no matter how scientific the application is.
They can a) support your work or b) simply supply an info file and that
file gets checked and corrected by you. I think there are _many_ small
steps that could be taken to complete support.
| We have 3rd party software dependancies for the Mac
| that exist only in binary form. We would like to take
| advantage of the availability of binary versions of
| software where ever possible to minimize support.
| These are, but not limited to:
|
|
|
| OpenMotif
|
| A package called PGPLOT
|
| GNU Fortran Compiler (g77)
|
And? Just a matter of getting those packages into stable. That should
not be something that is too hard. And if they _really_ wanted to, they
could supply unofficial Fink builds as binaries of those deps.
|
|
| We have limited support staff and resources to support
| ISIS, let alone support the Mac OS X platform.
|
|
But the Fink community does not. You should make that very clear to him.
We guess, right about now, 250_000 people ar eusing Fink. if only a
small fraction of those uses their system they get more Mac OS X support
than they ever had and most likely ever will have.
|
| Fink is a great tool to migrate Unix/Linux software to
| the Mac platform, but the downside is that Fink
| software cannot run independant of that environment.
Huh?
Fink has _nothing_ to do with the runtime. You should make that very
clear. Of course there are some tools needed to _install_ the stuff. but
if you had the necessary infrastructure you could take a Fink package
and have it run without a complete Fink install.
| Our goal is to provide ISIS to the widest community
| possible and minimize maintainence and installation
| difficulties.
|
| In my opinion, DarwinPorts
| (http://darwinports.opendarwin.org/) provides more
| flexible (runs natively in the Mac environment) and
| appealing (does not require the enduser to install
| anything)
Which we know is not entirely true either.
| ISIS software development support. With this
| approach, our ISIS developers can install the
| necessary 3rd party software ISIS depends on and only
| those software tools. We can then provide these
| dependancies (i.e., shared libraries) with the ISIS
| distribution. This scenario is obviously directly in
| conflict with the Fink policy as you state.
|
| At this time, we do have a consistant development and
| distribution configuration for all operating systems
| we support (Linux, Solaris and Mac OS X). In my
| opinion, adding Fink to this mix 

[Fink-devel] Re: Licenses that don't fit

2005-01-12 Thread D. Höhn
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Daniel Henninger wrote:
| Hi folk,
|
| I'm putting together an erlang package (with the intended goal of
| packaging ejabberd as well).  Erlang is governed by the Erlang Public
| License, which is not one of the available licenses.  So what do you
| recommend I do?  Thanks!
|
OSI-Approved
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[Fink-devel] OT Re: How to force twolevel_namespace

2005-01-10 Thread D. Höhn
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Peter O'Gorman wrote:
| Martin Costabel wrote:
|
| | Now here comes my questions for the experts: What is the recommended way
| | to persuade freetype2 to build twolevel images? I did the following
| | brute-force hack: The freetype2.info file has
| |
|
| perl -pi.bak -e 's/^allow_undefined_flag.*/allow_undefined_flag=\\/'
| libtool
h purdy new pgp key :)
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Re: [Fink-devel] lifetime of static variables

2004-12-22 Thread D. Höhn
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Dave Vasilevsky wrote:
| On Dec 22, 2004, at 2:24 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:
|
| Is this different from using the -single-module linker flag? The
| latter is often recommended for problems with static initializers.
|
|
| According to Apple, it's exactly the same thing:
| http://developer.apple.com/releasenotes/DeveloperTools/
| CompilerTools.html . I guess when I looked into the issue for arts
| way back during the KDE port it was before they added the
| -single_module flag.
|
| For the benefit of anybody who needs to search for this later: To deal
| with static initializers not running on OS X due to lazy linking,
|
| executables: link with -Wl,-bind_at_load
| libraries: link with -single_module
|
This should bein the porting guide. Maybe even in the FAQ. Unfortunately
I cannot write a blurb. I know too little. If you supply a blurb to
fink-i18n@ I will take care that it gets added.
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Re: [Fink-devel] Sylpheed and gpgme 1.0.1 Incompatibility

2004-12-16 Thread D. Höhn
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Emily Jackson wrote:
| Sylpheed (one of whose dependencies is gpgme) and the new version of
| gpgme are not compatible at all. If Sylpheed is already installed and
| gpgme is upgraded to 1.0.1, Sylpheed crashes on launch because the file
| /sw/lib/libgpgme.6.dylib can't be found. If Sylpheed is (re)built after
| gpgme 1.0.1 is installed, the build fails:
Should be fixed.
|
| gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\Sylpheed\
snip
|
| The build failure has been discussed on the Sylpheed mailing list
| http://www.tmtm.org/cgi-bin/w3ml/sylpheed/msg/23639. Perhaps
| sylpheed(-ssl)'s info files could be changed to specify the older
| version of gpgme, because it certainly won't work (or even build) with
| the new version.
|
I am looking into this. The fix does not seem trivial
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[Fink-devel] Re: Proposed new policy on essential dependencies

2004-11-03 Thread D. Höhn
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David R. Morrison wrote:
| Dear Fink developers,
|
snip
| Comments and discussion are welcome.
|
I think that this is the way to go. However, to handle this gracefully
and to make sure that the users are notified of what is going on I would
like to porpose the following steps.
a) Notify the common user base that we are planning to make significant
technical changes
b) Announce that on the homepage and determine a time frame (maybe 1 or
2 days)
c) Freeze the CVS for that time. Only allow updates to existing packages
(so that the depends can be declared) do not accept updates to packages
that are version specific (like new upstream version), do not accept new
packages.
d) Submit the new gettext and ncruses
e) Have a 48 hours waiting period
f) Thaw the tree
g) Announce that we are done and that persisting issues should be reported.
Did I forget anything?
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[Fink-devel] Re: zsh

2004-11-01 Thread D. Höhn
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William Scott wrote:
| Dear David H. et al:
|
Goof morning.
snip
|
| Please accept my apologies for wasting your time with this.
|
Please do not worry about it. You did not waste my time, I had a chance
to look more closely at the package. This is important to me. Rtaher
than having no feedback at all, I got some excellent one. This type of
concern just shows me, that my work is worth somethign to someone. A
good feeling.
Thank you
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[Fink-devel] Re: zsh

2004-10-22 Thread D. Höhn
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William Scott wrote:
|I am not really a hardcore zsh user yet
|
|
| Would it help to have an OS X-friendly zsh set of configuration files?
|
| I've made some here: http://tinyurl.com/4k7a9
|
| I could make this into a fink-compatable optional package if anyone would
| be interested.
|
|
| Bill
|
|
Yeah baby :) and my zsh.info can either Depend or Recommend it :)
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[Fink-devel] In the name of Michèle Garoche - [TRANSLATION: uguide.en.xml], [COMMITS: uguide.en.xml] first chunk

2004-10-21 Thread D. Höhn
Since the commits mail fails, but not the commit itself, here are the 
changes (only a first chunk, another chunk will come later), sorry for 
the trouble:

Index: uguide.en.xml
===
RCS file: /cvsroot/fink/web/xml/users-guide/uguide.en.xml,v
retrieving revision 1.16
retrieving revision 1.17
diff -r1.16 -r1.17
6c6
   cvsid$Id: uguide.en.xml,v 1.16 2004/10/16 10:22:40 michga Exp 
$/cvsid
---
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$/cvsid
9,10c9,10
   emThis document is a work in progress./em
 The following older documents may offer a broader view:
---
 This document gives an overview over all features of Fink.
 (The following older documents may offer a broader view:
13c13
 and the ReadMe.rtf included in the binary distribution disk image.
---
 and the ReadMe.rtf included in the binary distribution disk image.)
525c525,530
   titleInstalling Packages from Source/title
---
   titleInstalling Binary and Source Packages with fink/title
   p
 The codefink/code tool will allow you to install packages that 
are not yet
 available in the xref chapter=intro section=src-vs-binbinary
 distribution/xref.
   /p
685,687c690
 Upgrading is a bit more complicated if you use the source
 distribution.
 The procedure consists of two steps.
---
 If you use the source distribution the procedure consists of two steps.
1051c1054
   pemIntroduced in a post-0.20.5 CVS version of fink./em 
If the Fink package ccache-default is installed, the cache files it makes
---
   pIf the Fink package ccache-default is installed, the 
cache files it makes
1052a1056
 emOnly available in fink newer than version 0.21.0/em.
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[Fink-devel] Dear Maintainers/Users. I need your help.

2004-10-21 Thread D. Höhn
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Greetings Community.
First of all, thank you for using Fink and supporting us. I have thought
a very long time about our process of support. I think Fink can help the
community to streamline this process in a better way. I would like to
propose a way how our Maintainers and thus the users, can enjoy an even
better Fink experience. This involves testing some setup and a
specific idea I had.
While most things in my head seem to be brilliant ideas, the reality
often proves me wrong. I would need aroun 20 to 25 people to test this
idea with. For now in private. Basically It involves testing a special
ticketing system including a specific setup I have been thinking about.
This would be especially helpful for Maintainers, it aims to take the
burden of taken care of support requests off their shoulders, collecting
them in a central place where they will be stored and managed. This
setup would hold all support request in trust for the participating
maintainers. The main goal I am trying to achieve is to present a proven
way how we can improve our support at the end of this test run.
If you are a package maintainer (that is prefered) or an interested
power user that sends lots of support requests, please get back to me
_off_ list and ask to be included in this test run.
Thank you very much.
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[Fink-devel] In the name of Michèle Garoche - [TRANSLATION: uguide.en.xml], [COMMITS: uguide.en.xml] second and last chunk

2004-10-21 Thread D. Höhn
Since the commits mail fails, but not the commit itself, here are the 
changes (second and last  chunk), sorry for the trouble:

[QUOTE]
Index: uguide.en.xml
===
RCS file: /cvsroot/fink/web/xml/users-guide/uguide.en.xml,v
retrieving revision 1.17
retrieving revision 1.18
diff -r1.17 -r1.18
6c6
   cvsid$Id: uguide.en.xml,v 1.17 2004/10/21 08:48:47 michga Exp 
$/cvsid
---
   cvsid$Id: uguide.en.xml,v 1.18 2004/10/21 10:20:09 michga Exp 
$/cvsid
560c560,580
 /p
---
   /p
   p
 For codefink/code versions since 0.23.0 you can tell it to try to 
download
 pre-compiled binary packages, if available, instead of building them. 
Just pass
 the xref chapter=usage section=options--use-binary-dist (or -b)
 option/xref to codefink/code. This can save you a lot of time. E.g.
 calling
   /p
   codeblockfink --use-binary-dist install wget-ssl/codeblock
   por/p
   codeblockfink -b install wget-ssl/codeblock
   p
 will first download all dependencies for wget-ssl that are available 
from the
 binary distribution and only build the remainder from source. This 
option can
 also be enabled permanently in the xref chapter=confFink 
configuration
 file/xref (fink.conf) or by running the command codefink 
configure/code.
   /p
   p
 More details about the codefink/code tool are available in the 
chapter
 xref chapter=usageUsing the fink Tool from the Command Line/xref.
   /p
739,740c759,774
 packages.  If you are using Fink commander, then follow the xref 
section=binbinary/xref instructions, followed by those for xref 
section=srcsource/xref.
 /p
---
 packages.
 /p
   p
 Starting with fink 0.23.0 using the UseBinaryDist option (settable 
via the
 xref chapter=usage section=options--use-binary-dist (or -b) 
option/xref
 or in the xref chapter=confFink configuration file/xref) both 
source and
 binary descriptions will be updated if you call codefink 
selfupdate/code.
 In this case you don't need a separate codeapt-get/code call anymore.
  /p
   p
 If you are using Fink Commander select Binary-gt;Update descriptions 
to update
 the package list, and then Binary-gt;Dist-Upgrade packages to update 
to new
 versions. After that do Source-gt;Selfupdate to download new package
 information files, and then Source-gt;Update-all (see previous 
sections for
 details).
   /p
952a987,1014
 li
   p
 emSelfUpdateMethod:/em point, rsync or cvs/p
   p
 Fink can use some different methods to update the package info files.
 emrsync/em is the recommended setting, it uses rsync to download only
 modified files in the trees that you have enabled. Note that if you have
 changed or added to files in the stable or unstable trees, using 
rsync will
 delete them. Make a backup first. emcvs/em will download using 
anonymous or
 :ext: cvs access from the fink repository. This has the disadvantage 
that cvs
 can not switch mirrors, if the server is unavailable you will not be 
able to
 update. empoint/em will download only the latest released version 
of the
 packages. It is not recommended as your packages may be quite out of 
date.
   /p
 /li
 li
   p
 emUseBinaryDist:/em boolean/p
   p
 Causes fink to try to download pre-compiled binary packages from the 
binary
 distribution if available and if the binary package is not already on the
 system. This can save a lot of installation time and it is therefore
 recommended to set this option. Passing fink the
 xref chapter=usage--use-binary-dist option/xref has the same 
effect,
 but only operates on that single fink invocation.
 emOnly available in fink newer than version 0.23.0/em.
   /p
 /li
1119a1182,1208
 section name=options
   titleGlobal options/title
   p
 There are some options, which apply to all fink fink commands. If you
 type codefink --help/code you get the list of options:
   /p
   codeblock
 -h, --help- display this help text
 -q, --quiet   - causes fink to be less verbose, opposite of 
--verbose
 -V, --version - display version information
 -v, --verbose - causes fink to be more verbose, opposite of 
--quiet
 -y, --yes - assume default answer for all interactive 
questions
 -b, --use-binary-dist - download pre-compiled packages from the binary
   distribution if available
   /codeblock
   p
 Most of these options are self-explanatory. They can also be set in the
 xref chapter=confFink configuration file/xref (fink.conf) if 
you want
 to set them permanently and not just for that invocation of 
codefink/code.
   /p
   p
 The code--use-binary-dist/code option causes codefink/code to 
try to
 download pre-compiled binary packages from the binary distribution if 
available
 and if the binary package is not already on the system. (Only 
available in
 

[Fink-devel] Re: zsh.info

2004-10-21 Thread D. Höhn
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Cian Hughes wrote:
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|
| ConfigureParams: --libexecdir=%p/libexec --mandir=%p/share/man
| --infodir=%p/share/info --enable-zsh-secure-free --sysconfdir=%p/etc/zsh
| --enable-etcdir=/etc/zsh --enable-fndir=%p/etc/zsh/%v/functions
| --enable-site-fndir=%p/etc/zsh/%v/site-functions
| --enable-function-subdirs --enable-maildir-support --enable-pcre
Done. Thank you. I am not really a hardcore zsh user yet, that is why I
rely on users to report these issues to me.
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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/sci weka.info,NONE,1.1

2004-10-19 Thread D. Höhn
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Daniel E. Macks wrote:
| Kurt Schwehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
|
|Update of /cvsroot/fink/dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/sci
|
|--- NEW FILE: weka.info ---
|Package: weka
|DescPort: 
|Didn't compile from source since that is just available from CVS.  The
|weka web site descributes a dmg for OSX and a zip for Linux.  Both
|contain a bunch of jar files.
|
|License: GPL
|
|
| How do we feel about using precompiled-binary stuff in this manner (or
| at all)? Would be better to roll a CVS snapshot tarball for fink and
| serve it from Fink's SF space?
|
| dan
|
As lonmg as it is distributable and the license does not create any
obligations on our side, why not. I see no reason to recompile or
repackage if the forementioned constraints are met.
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Re: [Fink-devel] Still care about GCC field?

2004-10-04 Thread D. Höhn
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Daniel Macks wrote:
| I've seen some packages slip in lately that are C++, but do not
| declare GCC:3.3 in the .info. Is this requirement still necessary?
|
yes
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[Fink-devel] Re: Build trouble with ncpfs

2004-09-30 Thread D. Höhn
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Tim Fulcher wrote:
| OK OK, I know this hasn't been ported to mac OS X, at least not that I
can find.
| I've seen several attempts, but nothing that seems complete. So I
wondered
| what the problems were... trying to compile it with --kernel-disabled
(so it
| doesn't require /usr/include/linux/..) creates a list of type def
errors centred
| around net/if.h .
Have a look at http://www.osxfaq.com/man/4/netintro.ws
That should get you started into the right direction.
PS: I movd this thread to Fink-devel@
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Re: [Fink-devel] 'fink show-deps' and 'apt-get --allow-broken'

2004-09-30 Thread D. Höhn
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Christian Schaffner wrote:
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|
| The new apt could go into fink anyway, no? Are there any risks in just
| adding the new apt.info file to the unstable tree?
|
As I did not have any time to look at this yet. Is this a patch against
the _latest_ upstream source? APT needs an update, Peter (pogma) was
working on it, but I do nto know how far he got.
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Re: [Fink-devel] Custom mirror not selected by default

2004-09-21 Thread D. Höhn
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Trevor Harmon wrote:
| Hi,
|
| I'm in the process of creating my first Fink package, but I seem to
| running into a minor problem with the CustomMirror field. I need to use
| a custom mirror because the package is unavailable at any of the
| standard Fink mirrors. So, I've specified the following in my .info file:
|
| CustomMirror: 
| nam-US: http://download.eclipse.org/technology/ajdt/
| 
| Source: mirror:custom:%n-%v.jar
|
| When Fink tries to install this package, it's supposed to download the
| file at http://download.eclipse.org/technology/ajdt/aspectj-1.2.jar. At
| least, that's what I think it should do, based on the fields above.
| Instead, Fink for some reason tries to download the file at
| http://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/aspectj-1.2.jar, which of course
| is unavailable. This causes curl to return a failure, and I get this
| prompt:
|
| (1)  Give up
| (2)  Retry the same mirror
| (3)  Retry another mirror from your country
| (4)  Retry another mirror
| (5)  Retry using next mirror set Custom Mirror
|
| Now, my question is, why doesn't Fink go to the custom mirror I
| specified in the first place?
Because it is a good program and does exactly as you told it to do in
your fink.conf.
Have a look at the MirrorOrder: directive. Which can be set using fink
configure.
| Or at least, why doesn't Fink check the
| other mirrors automatically, instead of prompting me?
This is a design choice. We have often thought on different ways to
handle such situations. We do agree that manual interaction is the best
choice in this case.
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[Fink-devel] Re: Custom mirror not selected by default

2004-09-21 Thread D. Höhn
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Trevor Harmon wrote:
| On Sep 21, 2004, at 12:02 AM, D. Höhn wrote:
|
| This is a design choice. We have often thought on different ways to
| handle such situations. We do agree that manual interaction is the best
| choice in this case.
|
|
| Hmm... It still seems like a strange choice. I mean, why give up if
| there are still more mirrors to search? Perhaps there is a mailing list
| thread that explains what the thoughts were on this matter?
|
I do not have such at hand, but you might find some by searching the
logs for the IRC channel, as well as the mailing list archives.
| After all, I've seen some .info files that specify five or six custom
| mirrors. Does that mean Fink will prompt me five or six times until it
| finds the file? Or will it just prompt after failing in the master, and
| then walk through the mirrors automatically, without prompting?
|
When a download fails, for whatever reason, you will get a prompt. If it
fails six times, you will get a prompt six times, because you might
choose to change the mirror set before you have walked through all X
choices of a particular one.
| OK, how about this: Let's say I get my .info working, and it gets
| accepted into the main Fink distribution (whatever that means). Will the
| source tarball for the package (or jar or whatever it is) eventually be
| placed into http://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/?
|
As long as the License allows this, yes. See also message-id
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[Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/text texshop.info,NONE,1.1

2004-09-17 Thread D. Höhn
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Martin Costabel wrote:
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|  finkprefix/Applications, and there is a symlink in
|  /Applications/Fink.
Since you are altering the system outside of finkprefix, has this been
discussed? I might have missed it, I was away for a bit
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[Fink-devel] Re: an automated way to monitor web pages for changes

2004-07-21 Thread D. Höhn
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William Scott wrote:
| Hi Folks:
|
| I've already discovered that maintaining several packages requires
| constant vigilance with respect to software updates.  Is there an
| automated way to monitor a program's web site for version changes to
| software that might then email me and awaken me from my seemingly
| ever-increasing stupor?
|
| Many thanks in advance,
Well I do use http://freshmeat.net/releases/167552/ for most web-pages.
But beware, it is only suited for mostly static pages.
! webdiff is a powerful Web page update checker. It supports a variety
of different methods (diff, size, date, MD5 sum, regexp) and only prints
the URIs of the Web pages that changed so that its output can easily be
used by other scripts (such as wget or mail).!
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Re: [Fink-devel] Patching rsync.info

2004-07-05 Thread D. Höhn
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Blair Zajac wrote:
| Anybody mind if I patch rsync.info with this patch?
snip
Have you verified that rsync still computes the checksums correctly when
using your patch ?
If you arer 100% sure, go ahead and check in your patched version.
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[Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/crypto/finkinfo socat-ssl.info,NONE,1.1

2004-06-28 Thread D. Höhn
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Christian Schaffner wrote:
| Update of /cvsroot/fink/dists/10.3/unstable/crypto/finkinfo
| In directory sc8-pr-cvs1.sourceforge.net:/tmp/cvs-serv1343/crypto/finkinfo
|
| Added Files:
|   socat-ssl.info
I think we should no longer do that.
I feel it is better to have an ssl variant rather than a -ssl.info file.
Maybe I am overlooking something here (since crypto has its own section)
but personally I feel we should not accept any _new_ -whatever variants
that do not use the variants system we have.
Please do correct me if I am getting something totally wring here
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[Fink-devel] Re: Doc bug - Bad heredoc syntax

2004-06-01 Thread D. Höhn
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Martin Langhoff (NZL) wrote:
| The CustomMirror example shows an incorrect heredoc syntax. It opens
| with  and closes with . Should close with .
|
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And just for the record, please report such issues in the future to
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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/text cwtext.info,NONE,1.1

2004-04-19 Thread D. Höhn
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Ben Hines wrote:
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| On Apr 17, 2004, at 6:14 PM, Remi Mommsen wrote:
|
| Maintainer: Univ. of Tokyo Educational Computing System Tutors
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
|
| I do not like this at all. If the package was made by Asari Takashi, IMO
| he should be the maintainer. Group maintainers are bad. Research shows
| that people are less likely to respond to untargeted messages to mailing
| lists.
|
I suggested this. The University of Tokio will be supplying Fink with
numerous packages, mainly targeted toward the Japanese user. Asari
Takashi is only _one_ of the Tutors that take care of the submission and
package creation Process at the University of Tokio. He might not always
be able to answer requests, thus they created a catch-all account.
This is just similar to fink-gnome, fink-kde. fink-core and so on..
I apologise for failing to explain this. My bad, sorry.
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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: [Fink-users] Problem updating fink

2004-04-13 Thread D. Höhn
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Daniel Macks wrote:
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| This is the latest of many such problem reports. It's easy enough to
| have a hard-coded default for this mirror (as we do for other
| mirrors).
While I trust my mirror setup a lot (There are over 7 seperate DNS
serving finkmirrors.net) I do not think that would be the crrect route
to go. Hardcoded mirrors values are not somethign we should aim for and
personally I beleive the one sthat we have should be made modular.
| But it seems like there's an underlying problem with
| Essential: yes of fink-mirrors not being respected?
|
Well, what I noticed is, that fink-mirrors is installed _after_ the new
fink is executed. I guess, that it is problematic when the new fink
tries to download an updated, essential package _before_ fink mirrors
gets installed. Is there a way to bundle the install of fink-mirrors and
fink _before_ executing the new fink ?
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Re: [Fink-devel] fink documentation needing updates ?

2004-04-01 Thread D. Höhn
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Pejvan BEIGUI wrote:

| Hi all,
|
| It seems that that the fink documentation may need an overall update,
| since there are some parts which have not been updated for a while.
|
| For example, on http://fink.sourceforge.net/download/index.php
| the download suggested is the 0.6.2 release.
|
Yes, that is correct. There has not been any _official_ release yet and
it will be a couple of days yet.
| If needed, I may help in doing so starting from the 10th of april.
|
You are welcome to, every bit of help is appreciated on
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Re: [Fink-devel] no updates for two days?

2004-04-01 Thread D. Höhn
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Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

|Martin == Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|
|
| Martin On 1 avr. 2004, at 14:36, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
|
|Did everyone go home? :)
|
| Benjamin it might be my rss feed is acting up... I've seen updates...
|
|$ find /sw/fink/10.3 -name '*.info' -mtime -2 -print
|[crickets chirp, nothing happens]
|
|
| Martin If you want to see what people are amusing themselves with,
you can
| Martin have a look at the cvs commits mailing list archives at
| Martin http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.cvs . For March 30,
there
| Martin are over 50 entries...
|
| OK, so that means that something is broken in the rsync mechanism, eh?
|
| How soon before that's fixed?
|
Most likely as soon as someone complained to the Master Rsync
maintainer, which I am doing this moment.
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Re: [Fink-devel] no updates for two days?

2004-03-31 Thread D. Höhn
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Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

| I haven't seen any .info files updated at all for the past two days.
| Did everyone go home? :)
|
Nope. we simply decided to stop Fink all in all :)
(remember the date is 01.04.2004.. )

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Re: [Fink-devel] rxtx package sun's licensing

2004-03-22 Thread D. Höhn
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|
| so the main question is: how could we deal with sun's licensing ?
|
In this case I would honestly Call SUN, describe the situation and see
if this is Restrictive/Distributable
| thanks,
| matthias ringwald
|
|
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Re: [Fink-devel] could someone help me check this NEW url?

2004-03-21 Thread D. Höhn
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James Gibbs wrote:
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| On Mar 21, 2004, at 6:39 PM, William Scott wrote:
|
| For those who had trouble with the ftp, would you be kind enough to
| check this link to see if it works? :
|
| http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~garib/refmac/latest_refmac.html
|
| If it does, then I will switch it.  If it doesn't, I wouldn't mind
| some advice on what to do...
|
| Thanks.
|
| Bill Scott
|
|
| The web page is fine, but the files are on ftp.ysbl.york.ac.uk/, which
| gives me:
|
| jgibbs% ping ftp.ysbl.york.ac.uk/
| ping: unknown host ftp.ysbl.york.ac.uk/
|
| I'm using just the default Comcast DNS.
| I thought we were allowed to put files on the darwinports server as a
| primary source. Anyone know about this?
I do and to correct this, no manual file upload is allowed. If that
software is not _restricted_ in the LIcense field and the opendarwin
server can reach the source location it will be picked up automagically.
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Re: [Fink-devel] Zsh Broke init.sh Again

2004-03-13 Thread D. Höhn
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James Devenish wrote:

| Hi,
|
Hello Mister Devenish and thank you for your work.
| In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| on Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 12:11:58PM +0100, Max Horn wrote:
|
|I would greatly prefer if we do *not* add an init.zsh unless we
|absolutely must.
|
This is something I have to agree on with Mister Horn.
|
snip
|
|It would simply complicate setup for the novice user (and complicate
|the docs, too).
|
|
| Well, setup is already complicated for users that have Zsh as their
| shell, because init.sh generates error messages and hasn't worked
| since last year. (In my experience, at least.)
|
Since it has been broken there has been little to no mentioning of it
being broken, which leads me to believe that we do not have too many zsh
users. While that does not necessarily facilitates a necessity not to
support zsh properly, it does imply that we might be better off trying
to integrate as much support as possible into the existing setup
procedure while covering possible mistakes in proper documentation or a
special section of the FAQ.
Does this sound reasonable to you zsh users out there? If so I will
gladly listen to the specifics of ZSH and mail those question/Answer
pairs to the FAQ maintainer.
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[Fink-devel] Re: adding libevent to the 10.2-gcc3.3 tree

2004-03-04 Thread D. Höhn
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rayg wrote:

| please add libevent to the 10.2-gcc3.3 tree.  a user has successfully
| built it and wishes to use it in that tree.
|
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[Fink-devel] [Fwd: fink installation]

2004-02-19 Thread D. Höhn
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Is this correct?

-  Original Message 

Hi,
read and  followed your quick start to download and install fink.
Got an errormessage
/usr/sbin/nm not found!
Maybe you should mention that in the quick start doc.
- -first install developer tools for mac, then install fink!
Is it essential for fink to run?
I installed it and ran fink scanpackages; fink index again.
cherio matthias

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Re: [Fink-devel] Offer to help with Docs Design

2004-02-16 Thread D. Höhn
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Kyres wrote:

| Hi there!
|
| I would like to offer my help in the Fink Documentation Project as well as
| lend some assistance to the web design of the Fink site.
|
| I¹m not a programmer, but as an end-user I think I can offer some
| suggestions to make the documentation easier to understand and access.
|
| I¹d love to help... Just point and tell me what to do :)
|
| Khim~
|
Just a note. I already sanctioned this, so Alexander, please point
Khim to areas where you might wish for some help. I suggested, that she
could consolidate all references to 10.1 into one document as a starter.
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Re: [Fink-devel] non-core package submissions

2004-01-08 Thread D. Höhn
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

| Here's a heretical thought:
|
| I've never been 100 % convinced that most of the stuff I have submitted
| even belongs in fink.
|
| Much of it is rather specialized, like programs for X-ray
| crystallography and other types of biophysics techniques. These programs
| have a very specialized user community, and for those, they are
| absolutely essential, and for everyone else, they are probably
| absolutely useless.
..and here the PR dude kicks in...
Hello :)

I have to disagree, since I see this as one of our good areas. The
Macintosh itself has an already narrowed and very special user
community. I have learned much in the past few months and I understood
that we seem to be seing three main groups with Mac os X.
People from a scientific background where Macs seem to be strong
People switching or having an additional Machine now being a Mac coming
from UNIX
People from the classic Mac OS 9 world with a more graphic like background
Thus to me it is essential, that one can serve all those groups and
their special needs. Having many scientific programs in Fink makes it
sometimes and essential tool for those professors and students, which is
a big plus to us.
snip
| I keep a web site that has more up to date and often less broken
| versions of almost everything that I have in fink unstable, along with
| instructions for users on how to install in fink's local tree.
|
This is something I have to disagree with. Rather than splitting your
effort out of the main loop you should simply ask for a CVS account.
People like you, who have managed, maintained and created packages are
more than welcome to update them in the main trees. This is ment to keep
things tightly packed, as a Fink User I would not want to collect
updated files from anywhere else than the Fink mirrors.
| So maybe the first step would be some sort of formalized executive
| decision making process whereby those in charge and who have a good
| sense of the nature of the user community's requirements, could make a
| decision on whether or not a package should be in fink at all. I
| actually advise people my web site NOT to use packages of mine in fink
| unstable, because they are out of date and aren't in the 10.3 branch, as
| the updates are sitting in the queue. Hence at this point I would be
| better off if my stuff in fink unstable was simply removed, unless it is
| updated.
|
As I mentioned above. Please request CVS commit rights to 10.2-gcc3.3
and 10.3. I am sure you are more than capable of taking care of your
packages. There is no need for some sort of exectuive decision. The info
files are relatively tiny, the distribution method via rsync is now very
efficient, so as long as we are not distribution some info files for
software that will get us in legal problems, every piece of software is
welcome. If one or two people use it, it's enough reason to have it.
| Fink could even host a page on its web sites with links to maintainers
| of more specialized software packages, like mine, instead of formally
| including it in the fink distribution.
As I said above. I do not see any benefit in this approach. You are more
than qualified to get CVS commit rights and that is nothing we will deny
most likely. A mail to fink-core asking for those rights should be
sufficient, since you have maitained packages for a long time, I believe
you know what you are doing.
| It would be then up to the
| individual niche user communities to see that the packages work
| correctly.
With you having (hopefulyl soon) commit rights, it becomes your
responsobility and your communities responsibilty to make sure that the
packages work right. Yet, since the community of those packages reports
to you as the maintainer, you will then be able to react immideately.
For unstable that is not as critical, yet for stable you will have the
fine tuned access to decide when to move the packages.
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Re: [Fink-devel] dpkg-deb failed, exit code 10 or 11

2004-01-08 Thread D. Höhn
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Martin Costabel wrote:

| I am forwarding a message from today's fink-users list here, in the hope
| that someone with better memory or better insight knows the source of
| this problem.
|
| This has been coming come up very regularly, I find about a dozen
| complaints like this in the past two months, and it should certainly be
| in the FAQ. It isn't, because nobody seems to know where it comes from
| and what to do about it (in particular, you cannot reinstall dpkg when
| dpkg is not working).
|
| The people complaining about it seem to have proceeded to either
| reinstalling Fink from scratch or disappearing from the Fink scene
| completely.
|
Since I do not know the fix, I will ask you this:
Xould you provide a Q/A pait ? I will check it into the FAQ as soon as I
have it and it has been verified here
| Not a good situation.
|
I agree
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Re: [Fink-devel] dpkg-deb failed, exit code 10 or 11

2004-01-08 Thread D. Höhn
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Martin Costabel wrote:

| D. Höhn wrote:
| []
|
| Xould you provide a Q/A pait ? I will check it into the FAQ as soon as I
| have it and it has been verified here
|
|
| As soon as someone has an idea what to put into the A part :-)
| I haven't.
|
Isn't this related to the old prebinding bug? Thus rebuilding gettext
should fix the whole issue. I know that this is fairly hard with a
broken dpkg, so I guess reinstalling is the correct answer until a
revivised installer is published.
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Re: [Fink-devel] bin-dist made more regularely

2003-12-12 Thread D. Höhn
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Alexander K. Hansen wrote:
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|
| I, personally would like to see a faster turnover of packages that lots of
| people use from unstable to stable.
|
The problem you describe uo there depends soley on user feedback. If I
add package foo on the 13.
and I get 30 good reports on the 25. you might see me moving it to
stable on the 16.
This is how we handled it in teh past and it has proven to be a goo
strategy. Packages which have a high demand, which are used and where
there are no trouble reports get moved by the maintainer or in rare
cases by the core developers.
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Re: I am giving this 24 hours - (Re: [Fink-devel] Is it ok to remove phpmyadmin and pws from the web-module?)

2003-12-09 Thread D. Höhn
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D. Höhn wrote:

| Darian Lanx wrote:
|
| | Hello
| |
| | I am a bit on the cleaning trip.
| | Is the subdirectory pws or phpmyadmin in the web module still in use?
| | Thank you
| |
| | -d
| |
|
| Just a follow up to my own mail. Since no one screamed and shouted at
| me, I am giving this 24 hours, then I will cvs remove the pws and
| phpmyadmin folders from teh web-module. There is no use keeping them in
| there, forcing people to updated them on their cvs up runs when no one
| actually uses the data stroed in the folders.
|
| -d
Geezes you people are picky ;)

I will remove the data contained in teh two mentioned flders so that it
does not have to be checked anymore  better? ;)
see yas

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Re: [Fink-devel] new fink commands

2003-12-08 Thread D. Höhn
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TheSin wrote:
| I just added these two commands to fink HEAD, dmalloc should be adding
| them to the man pages for me tomorrow, please provide feedback.
|
| fink splits - returns a list of children of a pkg including it's parent
|
| fink find - returns only the parent of a pkg for quick reference.
snip
Actually I have been thinking about this while I drove to work and I
think splitoffs or even splits is badly named.
TheSin and I did stick with the parent - Children theme because it
has a certain phsychological indication and thus it would make those
commands suitable even for none developers. I would suggest that you
name the actual switches
children  and parent

Furthermore naming it this way would indicate two things:

There can be many children but only _one_ parent.  Is that correct?

I wont be adding to the man page until this has been decided on.
Personally I do nto feel this is a developer only command.
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I am giving this 24 hours - (Re: [Fink-devel] Is it ok to remove phpmyadmin and pws from the web-module?)

2003-12-08 Thread D. Höhn
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Darian Lanx wrote:

| Hello
|
| I am a bit on the cleaning trip.
| Is the subdirectory pws or phpmyadmin in the web module still in use?
| Thank you
|
| -d
|
Just a follow up to my own mail. Since no one screamed and shouted at
me, I am giving this 24 hours, then I will cvs remove the pws and
phpmyadmin folders from teh web-module. There is no use keeping them in
there, forcing people to updated them on their cvs up runs when no one
actually uses the data stroed in the folders.
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[Fink-devel] Re: Who did commit unstable/util/hflf on Sun Nov 23 17:53:36 2003 ?

2003-12-04 Thread D. Höhn
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Arnaud Launay wrote:
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|
| Anyway, for the placement: in FreeBSD and OpenBSD, hlfl is
| classified under security, it's under net-misc in Gentoo and
| net in Debian. How do you call something which create firewall
| rules, if not related to net ?
|
As I stated before. To me this is a utility which generates firewall
rules. It doe snot matter that it generates Firewall rules and firewalls
are associated with the net. All that matters, is that it is a utility
to do something. hlfl has no direct interaction with the net thus I do
not belive that it belongs into the section net. But themna again many
things which are in net might not really belong there, thus it is
pretty up to the package maintainer.
:)

I was just stating my personal opinion

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Re: [Fink-devel] Don't disable tests. Report the failure. (was Re: fink ChangeLog,1.181,1.182 Makefile,1.4,1.5)

2003-11-20 Thread D. Höhn
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TheSin wrote:

| David is the Project lead :)  If he is asking then the fink-core doesn't
| know :)
|
I am the project lead? Gee thank you Justin ;)
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Re: [Fink-devel] Fink module documentation, tests and all that icky stuff.

2003-10-30 Thread D. Höhn
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Michael G Schwern said the following on 10/30/03 2:36 AM:

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I'd like to keep going, but there's been no motion on any of the above.
So... are you folks interested in testing and documenting Fink::*?  Would
you like me to continue?
Hello Mister Schwern,

my name is david Höhn (net alias Darian Lanx) and I am somewhat looking 
after the administrativa for Fink. I would be very glad to have you on 
board, since documentation and proper testing of the actual fink engine 
is something that we badly lack. There has been some great efforts by 
Mister Hansen and Mister Fujinaka to keep the man-pages and User 
documentation as well as the FAQ up-to date, yet the developer 
documentation for the code that fink intself user is nearly non existant.

If you would like to continue this important work, I would be more than 
happy to setup a roadmap of your goals and sync them with the Fink team, 
being your proxy. As Mister Reed said, we are very interested in 
additional patches to further improve fink and I am sure that you could 
be added to the development team as soon as the main developers know how 
you work and how you could improve Fink as a whole.

On a related note: how important is backwards compatibility?  Some of the
Fink::* function interfaces are a bit wonky and could do with some fixing.
For example, the tendency for classes to export functions.  Lots of exported 
global variables where class methods should be used.  Exported global 
variables not being distinguished from local variables with $Uppercase.
Inconsistent method names (new_with_* vs new_from_*).  All basic stuff.

According to some including perl guru Mister Schwartz the classes and 
their model could use some work. Maybe even redoing them with something 
like Class::MethodMaker.
If you feel, that you have the time to improve the handling of that and 
thus improve fin itself, please do so.

Are you worried someone other than fink is using this code and do you care?
I would say, that this is not really a concern we are currently looking 
at, yet it is important, especially to me, that we keeo the 
documentation availaible that someone COULD do so if they wanted to.

Can I go ahead and supply patches that will improve and change the module 
interface?
As I said above, yes of course. According to some it is bitterly needed.
Furthermore the Dependency enhone seems to need a reqrite, yet no one is 
willing to touch it. Do you want to ?

Thank you for your efforts

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[Fink-devel] Being Back, doing announcements, Improvements and so on...

2003-02-18 Thread D. Höhn


hallo Gang.

No, I have not been temporarily killed and I have risen from the dead now and
no, you did not manage to get rid of me.

I was on bussiness in Switzerland and I simply happened to come back today.

I would appreciate it, if we could wait until at least Friday for further
annoucements or releases. Not only because Wendsday is a bad day for such
things, but also because I do have to catch up on a lot of things. Seems like
a busy weekend.

Apart from that I am happy to see so much interest lately.

I hope that is ok for you?

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Re: [Fink-devel] GPG maintainer?

2002-12-26 Thread D. Höhn
Quoting Kristofer Widholm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I am wondering if anyone is maintaining the GPG package. GPG is up to 
 version 1.2.1. The latest version in Fink (0.4.0) was GPG 1.0.7, and 
 there is no version available for Fink (0.5.0 Jaguar).

gpg 1.2.1 is still in the unstable Tree. It is being actively maintained. I 
am working on a list o packages which I will ask the maintainers to move, gpg 
is one of them. IN the menatime you should simply add the unstable tree to 
your fink.conf. Please note, that there are no binary packages for the 
unstable tree. For more info about the unstable tree and how to run it, 
please see the website and the docu section.


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Re: [Fink-devel] Can someone add fink validate docs somewhere I can find them?

2002-12-24 Thread D. Höhn
Quoting Hisashi T Fujinaka [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

snip 
 So if you want people to validate their packages prior to submission,
 it
 should be more prominent on the web pages and maybe in fink --help
 somewhere. Otherwise you get guys like me with short memories spinning
 their wheels looking for it.
 
I will look into the issue as soon as the holidays are over. Thank you for 
mentioning it, but please do CC me a direct mail whenever you find something 
to be wrong with the docs. Sometimes I might not catch a mail from the 
mailing lists, especially when I am on holidays.

I will see to it, that I can at least alter the fink --help output to reflect 
this as soon as the holidays are over.

- your friendly docs maintainer




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