Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem

2002-11-03 Thread hodelas
in /sw/etc/ssh/sshd_config and /etc/sshd_config

X11Forwarding yes

all other values as installed.

Another possible culprit (I need to check) are the MATLAB-installed 
changes to X11R6 under Jaguar.  I did a re-install of X11R6 while at 
work tonight; I'll try it out again when I get home to see if things 
behave.  After I get some sleep, that is.

Thanks,

ash

On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 01:18 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I just upgraded my office machine to Jaguar and am no longer able to 
run
X-apps from home due to X-forwarding problems.

I've set ForwardX11 to yes in both /etc/ssh_config and (after 
installing
openssh from fink) in /sw/etc/ssh/ssh_config.  I've also tried logging

And in sshd_config?

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[Fink-users] perl 5.8 ?

2002-11-03 Thread Ken Engel
Is it Ok to run fink with perl 5.8 or is this not recommended? I 
installed it - 5.8.0 to be precise -
exactly as prescribed here - 
http://developer.apple.com/internet/macosx/perl.html
Now I get this awful thing-
fink install lynx
sudo /sw/bin/fink  install lynx
Password:
dyld: perl Undefined symbols:
_Perl_safefree
_Perl_safemalloc
_Perl_saferealloc
_Perl_sv_2pv
_perl_call_sv
_perl_eval_sv
_perl_get_sv

What are my options:
1 I should upgrade to perl 5.8.1?
2 I should stick with the default perl - I'm using Jaguar 10.2.1 - ?
3 Maybe I built it wrong (I built it from source), something to do with 
dynamic libs?
  (though, I did it exactly as it says on that web page)
4 Re-update fink - i.e., the same procedure that follows the Jaguar 
upgrade in
   http://fink.sourceforge.net/news/jaguar.php ?
5 Re-install fink from scratch ??? (Please, no!)

I hope this hasn't already been discussed; a search for perl 5.8 in 
the fink-users archive
brought nothing relevant as far as I can see.
Thanks
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Re: [Fink-users] perl 5.8 ?

2002-11-03 Thread Ben Hines

On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 12:18  AM, Ken Engel wrote:


Is it Ok to run fink with perl 5.8 or is this not recommended? I 
installed it - 5.8.0 to be precise -
exactly as prescribed here - 
http://developer.apple.com/internet/macosx/perl.html
Now I get this awful thing-

See where it talks about fink on that page.

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Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem

2002-11-03 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
I usually start deleting .Xauthority until things work.

On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 in /sw/etc/ssh/sshd_config and /etc/sshd_config

 X11Forwarding yes

 all other values as installed.

 Another possible culprit (I need to check) are the MATLAB-installed
 changes to X11R6 under Jaguar.  I did a re-install of X11R6 while at
 work tonight; I'll try it out again when I get home to see if things
 behave.  After I get some sleep, that is.

 Thanks,

 ash

 On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 01:18 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I just upgraded my office machine to Jaguar and am no longer able to
  run
  X-apps from home due to X-forwarding problems.
 
  I've set ForwardX11 to yes in both /etc/ssh_config and (after
  installing
  openssh from fink) in /sw/etc/ssh/ssh_config.  I've also tried logging
 
  And in sshd_config?
 
  --
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[Fink-users] Still can build numeric-atlas-22.0-1

2002-11-03 Thread Neal A. Crocker
Well, I've done the 10.2 update.  I've got the latest version of g77 
(3.?).  I still can't build numeric-atlas.

The full installation attempt transcript is at 
http://homepage.mac.com/nealackercrocker/.cv/nealackercrocker/Public/scipy_install_attempt.txt-binhex.hqx.

Here are the final error messages:
error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
gcc -DNDEBUG -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -IInclude 
-IPackages/FFT/Include -IPackages/RNG/Include -I/sw/include/python2.2 
-c Src/lapack_litemodule.c -o 
build/temp.darwin-6.1-PowerMacintosh-2.2/lapack_litemodule.o
gcc -L/sw/lib -bundle -bundle_loader /sw/bin/python 
build/temp.darwin-6.1-PowerMacintosh-2.2/lapack_litemodule.o 
-L/sw/lib -llapack -lcblas -lf77blas -latlas -lg2c -o 
build/lib.darwin-6.1-PowerMacintosh-2.2/lapack_lite.so
### execution of python failed, exit code 1
Failed: compiling numeric-atlas-22.0-1 failed

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Re: [Fink-users] Still can build numeric-atlas-22.0-1

2002-11-03 Thread jeff whitaker
Neal:  Looks like your atlas installation is buggered.  What version of
atlas do you have installed? Did you build it after installing the
g77-3.1?  I have

[jsw@mac10:/Users/jsw] ls -l /sw/lib/libf77blas.a
-rw-r--r--  1 root  admin  350524 Sep  4 12:12 /sw/lib/libf77blas.a
[jsw@mac10:/Users/jsw] nm -p /sw/lib/libf77blas.a | grep atl_f77wrap_zdotu
 U _atl_f77wrap_zdotu__
0048 T _atl_f77wrap_zdotu__

What does yours look like?

-Jeff

On Sun, 3 Nov 2002, Neal A. Crocker wrote:

 Well, I've done the 10.2 update.  I've got the latest version of g77
 (3.?).  I still can't build numeric-atlas.

 The full installation attempt transcript is at
 
http://homepage.mac.com/nealackercrocker/.cv/nealackercrocker/Public/scipy_install_attempt.txt-binhex.hqx.

 Here are the final error messages:
 error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
 gcc -DNDEBUG -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -IInclude
 -IPackages/FFT/Include -IPackages/RNG/Include -I/sw/include/python2.2
 -c Src/lapack_litemodule.c -o
 build/temp.darwin-6.1-PowerMacintosh-2.2/lapack_litemodule.o
 gcc -L/sw/lib -bundle -bundle_loader /sw/bin/python
 build/temp.darwin-6.1-PowerMacintosh-2.2/lapack_litemodule.o
 -L/sw/lib -llapack -lcblas -lf77blas -latlas -lg2c -o
 build/lib.darwin-6.1-PowerMacintosh-2.2/lapack_lite.so
 ### execution of python failed, exit code 1
 Failed: compiling numeric-atlas-22.0-1 failed

 Any advice?

 Thanks,
 Neal.


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Re: [Fink-users] perl 5.8 ?

2002-11-03 Thread Koen van der Drift

Is it Ok to run fink with perl 5.8 or is this not recommended? I
installed it - 5.8.0 to be precise -
exactly as prescribed here -
http://developer.apple.com/internet/macosx/perl.html


That document is for Jaguar. Anyone knows if it also works on 10.1.5 and
the April Dev Tools? Are there other caveats?

thanks,

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Re: [Fink-users] C compilation troubleshooting?

2002-11-03 Thread Fernando Pereira
On 11/2/02 11:26 PM, Prahlad Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Since upgrading to 10.2 on the Powerbook, the software gives the
 following error message when I try to run it (the program I'm trying
 to run is named bp):
 
 dyld: bp Undefined symbols:
 bp undefined reference to _stdscr expected to be defined in
 /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
 Trace/BPT Trap
[...]
 
 Does the error message on the G3 ring a bell?
Yes, the problem is that Apple repartitioned some dynamically linked
libraries from 10.1 to 10.2, including curses, which defines the symbol
stdscr. Your old binary is trying to find that symbol in the library file
that defined it in 10.1, but in 10.2 it's in /usr/lib/libcurses.dylib.

You should be able to recompile your program and run it without problems,
except that there are some other peculiarities with terminal configurations
for 10.2 that other people reported (I've not seen that problem in a while,
maybe it went away with 10.2.1?). There were discussions of the issue
(apropos Emacs) in this list during August and September, you might want to
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Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem

2002-11-03 Thread hodelas
Thanks.  Neither than nor my Matlab X11R6 patch idea seemed to have any 
effect.

On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 03:12 AM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:

I usually start deleting .Xauthority until things work.

On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


in /sw/etc/ssh/sshd_config and /etc/sshd_config

X11Forwarding yes

all other values as installed.

Another possible culprit (I need to check) are the MATLAB-installed
changes to X11R6 under Jaguar.  I did a re-install of X11R6 while at
work tonight; I'll try it out again when I get home to see if things
behave.  After I get some sleep, that is.

Thanks,

ash

On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 01:18 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I just upgraded my office machine to Jaguar and am no longer able to
run
X-apps from home due to X-forwarding problems.

I've set ForwardX11 to yes in both /etc/ssh_config and (after
installing
openssh from fink) in /sw/etc/ssh/ssh_config.  I've also tried 
logging

And in sshd_config?

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Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem

2002-11-03 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
Now that I read your message, I think my fix isn't valid. You also need to
make sure you restart sshd after editing the file (or 'kill -HUP' it to
have it re-read the config file) and then do some hunting by starting ssh
with some -v's like: ssh -v -v -v [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks.  Neither than nor my Matlab X11R6 patch idea seemed to have any
 effect.

 On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 03:12 AM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:

  I usually start deleting .Xauthority until things work.
 
  On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  in /sw/etc/ssh/sshd_config and /etc/sshd_config
 
  X11Forwarding yes
 
  all other values as installed.
 
  Another possible culprit (I need to check) are the MATLAB-installed
  changes to X11R6 under Jaguar.  I did a re-install of X11R6 while at
  work tonight; I'll try it out again when I get home to see if things
  behave.  After I get some sleep, that is.
 
  Thanks,
 
  ash
 
  On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 01:18 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I just upgraded my office machine to Jaguar and am no longer able to
  run
  X-apps from home due to X-forwarding problems.
 
  I've set ForwardX11 to yes in both /etc/ssh_config and (after
  installing
  openssh from fink) in /sw/etc/ssh/ssh_config.  I've also tried
  logging
 
  And in sshd_config?
 
  --
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Re: [Fink-users] perl 5.8 ?

2002-11-03 Thread Ken Engel

Damn! If I RTFM more carefully, I would have seen that and saved myself 
and everyone some time!
Thanks
Ken

On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 12:32 AM, Ben Hines wrote:


On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 12:18  AM, Ken Engel wrote:


Is it Ok to run fink with perl 5.8 or is this not recommended? I 
installed it - 5.8.0 to be precise -
exactly as prescribed here - 
http://developer.apple.com/internet/macosx/perl.html
Now I get this awful thing-

See where it talks about fink on that page.

-Ben




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Re: [Fink-users] Still can build numeric-atlas-22.0-1

2002-11-03 Thread jeff whitaker
On Sun, 3 Nov 2002, Neal A. Crocker wrote:

 Neal:  Looks like your atlas installation is buggered.  What version of
 atlas do you have installed? Did you build it after installing the
 g77-3.1?  I have

 I've got atlas 3.4.1-1 and I installed it before I got g77 3.1.

 
 [jsw@mac10:/Users/jsw] ls -l /sw/lib/libf77blas.a
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  admin  350524 Sep  4 12:12 /sw/lib/libf77blas.a
 [jsw@mac10:/Users/jsw] nm -p /sw/lib/libf77blas.a | grep atl_f77wrap_zdotu
   U _atl_f77wrap_zdotu__
 0048 T _atl_f77wrap_zdotu__
 
 What does yours look like?

 [~]% ls -l /sw/lib/libf77blas.a
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  admin  339164 Oct 30 02:25 /sw/lib/libf77blas.a
 [~]%  nm -p /sw/lib/libf77blas.a | grep atl_f77wrap_zdotu
   U _atl_f77wrap_zdotu__


 I'm guessing that I should simply rebuild atlas, now that I have g77
 3.1, right?


That would be my suggestion. Since atlas has

BuildDepends: g77 (= 3.1-20020420-1)

I don't know how you managed to build it before installing g77 3.1 (unless
it was built with 10.1).

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Re: [Fink-users] perl 5.8 ?

2002-11-03 Thread Jim
So, how do I know which packages I need to rebuild?

here's the .pm listing from /sw/lib/perl5:

[thors-hammer] soob% find . -name '*.pm' -print
./darwin/MacOSX/File/Catalog.pm
./darwin/MacOSX/File/Constants.pm
./darwin/MacOSX/File/Copy.pm
./darwin/MacOSX/File/Info.pm
./darwin/MacOSX/File/Spec.pm
./darwin/MacOSX/File.pm
./darwin/Storable.pm
./Fink/Base.pm
./Fink/Bootstrap.pm
./Fink/Config.pm
./Fink/Configure.pm
./Fink/Engine.pm
./Fink/FinkVersion.pm
./Fink/Mirror.pm
./Fink/NetAccess.pm
./Fink/Package.pm
./Fink/PkgVersion.pm
./Fink/SelfUpdate.pm
./Fink/Services.pm
./Fink/Status.pm
./Fink/Validation.pm
[thors-hammer] soob%

It looks like Storable as mentioned in the URL and I'm assuming 
macosx-file-pm, but do I need to worry about the Fink modules? And how 
do I tell what files are XS files? Are there any other files I need to 
worry about?

Thanks, Jim

On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 12:32  AM, Ben Hines wrote:


On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 12:18  AM, Ken Engel wrote:


Is it Ok to run fink with perl 5.8 or is this not recommended? I 
installed it - 5.8.0 to be precise -
exactly as prescribed here - 
http://developer.apple.com/internet/macosx/perl.html
Now I get this awful thing-

See where it talks about fink on that page.

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[Fink-users] fondu url outdated in CVS

2002-11-03 Thread Rogue M . Vox
I believe that the CVS database needs updating for the fondu dependency of 
'applesystemfonts'.
the url is
http://fondu.sourceforge.net/fondu_src-021023.tgz

not sure the patching works the way it's supposed to on that tarbal but that gets the 
above package installed and hopefully working (need to restart X to be sure, will keep 
you posted).

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Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem

2002-11-03 Thread hodelas
ssh -X -v -v -v ${mymachine} yields;

[skipped output not related to X11]

debug2: x11_get_proto /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth list :0 2/dev/null
debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing.
debug1: channel request 0: x11-req
debug1: channel request 0: shell
debug1: fd 3 setting TCP_NODELAY
debug2: callback done
debug1: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768
debug2: channel 0: rcvd adjust 131072
Last login: Sun Nov  3 15:31:35 2002 from adsl-157-133-20
Welcome to Darwin!

So it looks like it's trying to set up X11 forwarding, but the DISPLAY 
variable remains unset.
I wonder if some parameter in the Jaguar network/sharing preferences may 
be to blame.  I can
remote log in, but the DISPLAY variable is still missing.

On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 11:22 AM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:

Now that I read your message, I think my fix isn't valid. You also need 
to
make sure you restart sshd after editing the file (or 'kill -HUP' it to
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ssh
with some -v's like: ssh -v -v -v [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks.  Neither than nor my Matlab X11R6 patch idea seemed to have any
effect.

On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 03:12 AM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:


I usually start deleting .Xauthority until things work.

On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


in /sw/etc/ssh/sshd_config and /etc/sshd_config

X11Forwarding yes

all other values as installed.

Another possible culprit (I need to check) are the MATLAB-installed
changes to X11R6 under Jaguar.  I did a re-install of X11R6 while at
work tonight; I'll try it out again when I get home to see if things
behave.  After I get some sleep, that is.

Thanks,

ash

On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 01:18 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I just upgraded my office machine to Jaguar and am no longer able 
to
run
X-apps from home due to X-forwarding problems.

I've set ForwardX11 to yes in both /etc/ssh_config and (after
installing
openssh from fink) in /sw/etc/ssh/ssh_config.  I've also tried
logging

And in sshd_config?

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Re: [Fink-users] Still can build numeric-atlas-22.0-1

2002-11-03 Thread Neal A. Crocker
On Sun, 3 Nov 2002, Neal A. Crocker wrote:


 Neal:  Looks like your atlas installation is buggered.  What version of
 atlas do you have installed? Did you build it after installing the
 g77-3.1?  I have

 I've got atlas 3.4.1-1 and I installed it before I got g77 3.1.

 
 [jsw@mac10:/Users/jsw] ls -l /sw/lib/libf77blas.a
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  admin  350524 Sep  4 12:12 /sw/lib/libf77blas.a
 [jsw@mac10:/Users/jsw] nm -p /sw/lib/libf77blas.a | grep atl_f77wrap_zdotu
   U _atl_f77wrap_zdotu__
 0048 T _atl_f77wrap_zdotu__
 
 What does yours look like?

 [~]% ls -l /sw/lib/libf77blas.a
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  admin  339164 Oct 30 02:25 /sw/lib/libf77blas.a
 [~]%  nm -p /sw/lib/libf77blas.a | grep atl_f77wrap_zdotu
   U _atl_f77wrap_zdotu__


 I'm guessing that I should simply rebuild atlas, now that I have g77
 3.1, right?



That would be my suggestion. Since atlas has

BuildDepends: g77 (= 3.1-20020420-1)

I don't know how you managed to build it before installing g77 3.1 (unless
it was built with 10.1).


That's what I did.

Thanks.
Neal.


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[Fink-users] Problems with Nedit5.3-5

2002-11-03 Thread M. Brooks Clark
Anyone know of a work-around for this problem in Nedit?

When I open a file using the File:Open command to open a *second* file using
the FileSelectionDialog, the file opens, but the window does not respond to
mouse or keyboard input. I think the problem started with one of the recent
updates to lesstif (I'm currently at lesstif 0.93.36-2).

In addition, I'm seeing numerous other error messages in the xterm that I
launch nedit from:

XmFontListCreate() is an obsolete function!


Or when I bring up the Find dialog box, I get:
XmManager _XmAcceleratorHandler: bad news!!!

XmManager _XmAcceleratorHandler: being destroyed, bad news!!!

XmManager _XmAcceleratorHandler: being destroyed, bad news!!!



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Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem

2002-11-03 Thread Derek Homeier
On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 04:38  PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


ssh -X -v -v -v ${mymachine} yields;

[skipped output not related to X11]

debug2: x11_get_proto /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth list :0 2/dev/null
debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing.
debug1: channel request 0: x11-req
debug1: channel request 0: shell
debug1: fd 3 setting TCP_NODELAY
debug2: callback done
debug1: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768
debug2: channel 0: rcvd adjust 131072
Last login: Sun Nov  3 15:31:35 2002 from adsl-157-133-20
Welcome to Darwin!

So it looks like it's trying to set up X11 forwarding, but the DISPLAY 
variable remains unset.
I wonder if some parameter in the Jaguar network/sharing preferences 
may be to blame.  I can
remote log in, but the DISPLAY variable is still missing.

Looks exactly as here. Just to verify, you did delete any old .Xauth* 
files on both client and server machines?
What I can think of: explicitly create a new .Xauthority on the client 
machine with
'xauth generate :0', and add the following to the ~/.ssh/rc on the Mac:

if read proto cookie  [ -n $DISPLAY ]; then
 if [ `echo $DISPLAY | cut -c1-10` = 'localhost:' ]; then
 # X11UseLocalhost=yes
 /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth add unix:`echo $DISPLAY |
 cut -c11-` $proto $cookie
 else
 # X11UseLocalhost=no
 /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth add $DISPLAY $proto $cookie
 fi
fi

(this helped me to get rid of authentication errors, though it's 
probably just a slim hope in your case, as DISPLAY doesn't seem to be 
set in the first place and there never is any authentication going on). 
BTW, have you tried setting DISPLAY=localhost:10.0 manually and run an 
X11 program?
Finally, I never got X11 forwarding to work with OS X's openssh daemon, 
so you may want to make sure that it is actually /sw/sbin/sshd that's 
running and nothing else. As a last diagnostic tool, you can start the 
daemon manually with 'sudo /sw/sbin/sshd -ddd' and watch out for debug 
messages on the server side.

HTH,
			Derek



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Re: [Fink-users] perl 5.8 ?

2002-11-03 Thread Daniel Lord
I compiled and installed Perl 5.8 from source according to the 
instructions on the Apple Darwin page and selected the option to 
over-write the Apple installation in System/Library rather than the 
default /usr install. I have been running it error free for a month 
under fairly heavy Perl and Tk use without incident that I can point to 
Fink as being the cause and all problems have been fixable. At first I 
encountered a few hitches with previously compiled XS routines that 
Fink installs--the solution is simply to make Fink recompile them using 
the 5.8 links and libs which it does auto-magically without 
intervention. I also installed Tk independently of Fink from source and 
it works fine. One caution though: installing Perl Mods from CPAN which 
require compilation (those in pure Perl are fine) may not compile 
completely nor pass the test even if compilation succeeds. I am very 
circumspect about non-fink Perl modules as a result of a few 
frustrating experiences. I am keeping at it and will post anything 
important I discover. Good luck.

Daniel Lord
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On Sunday, Nov 3, 2002, at 05:48 US/Pacific, Koen van der Drift wrote:



Is it Ok to run fink with perl 5.8 or is this not recommended? I
installed it - 5.8.0 to be precise -
exactly as prescribed here -
http://developer.apple.com/internet/macosx/perl.html



That document is for Jaguar. Anyone knows if it also works on 10.1.5 
and
the April Dev Tools? Are there other caveats?

thanks,

- Koen.


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[Fink-users] Food shortage

2002-11-03 Thread The Harvester
Flour is getting expensive

Why?
Click here: http://www.bankstmoritz.com/grainform.htm

Worldwide bad weather conditions
General grain shortage worldwide
Explosive  growth in consumption  in China
Disastrous crops in South America
Political unrest in major growers - Argentina and Brazil

Let's take wheat:

5 contracts = 25,000 bushels = $6,000
wheat moves just $1 - your $6,000 become $25,000

Last time we had such conditions wheat moved from $3.50 to $7
Today wheat is trading at $4.10
Will wheat prices move to $5, $6, a bushel?
We actually think wheat is going back to $7
Now is the time.

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[Fink-users] Food shortage

2002-11-03 Thread The Harvester
Flour is getting expensive

Why?
Click here: http://www.bankstmoritz.com/grainform.htm

Worldwide bad weather conditions
General grain shortage worldwide
Explosive  growth in consumption  in China
Disastrous crops in South America
Political unrest in major growers - Argentina and Brazil

Let's take wheat:

5 contracts = 25,000 bushels = $6,000
wheat moves just $1 - your $6,000 become $25,000

Last time we had such conditions wheat moved from $3.50 to $7
Today wheat is trading at $4.10
Will wheat prices move to $5, $6, a bushel?
We actually think wheat is going back to $7
Now is the time.

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Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem

2002-11-03 Thread Martin Costabel
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[]
be to blame.  I can
remote log in, but the DISPLAY variable is still missing.


Sorry for the stupid question, but nobody asked before: Are you sure 
that you did set DISPLAY in the window from which you are doing your ssh?

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Re: [Fink-users] blackmusic.ch mailing list memberships reminder

2002-11-03 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Martin Costabel wrote:

H. Peter Anvin wrote:


Justin C. Walker wrote:
[]
Any clue what's going on here?  Is this a harvesting operation?



No, the reverse -- almost certainly a spamming operation.  I have
emailed the abuse address -- it looks to me like a legit mailing list
operator with an abusive user.



If you sonsider their archive at

http://server4.hostpoint.ch/pipermail/newsletter_blackmusic.ch/2002-November/date.html 


it looks like they have only abusive (abused and then abusing) users.
Seeing that the addresses point back to a .uk ISP, I'd suspect that 
someone created this, subscribed a couple of mailing lists to it and is 
now sitting back having a good laugh.


I meant the operator of this particular mailing list is the abusive 
user.  It looks like hostpoint.ch is probably a legit outfit; it's only 
this blackmusic.ch thing which seems to be crap.

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