Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Hi, Pedro.
I didnt receive th image (Figure 1. The Four Great Domains of Science)
Would you please send it again?

Thank you.

Moises

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>1. Re: Beginnings and ends---Steps to a theory of reference &
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> -- Mensagem encaminhada --
> From: "Pedro C. Marijuan" 
> To: "'fis'" 
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:43:40 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Fis] Beginnings and ends---Steps to a theory of reference &
> significance
>  Dear Terry and FIS colleagues---and pirates,
>
> Just a brief reflection on the below.
>
>  (From Terry's last message)...
> So my goal in this case is quite modest, and yet perhaps also a bit
> foolhardy. I want to suggest a simplest possible model system to use
> as the basis for formalizing the link between physical processes and
> semiotic processes. Perhaps someday after considerably elaborating
> this analysis it could contribute to issues of the psychology of human
> interactions. I hope to recruit some interest into pursuing this goal.
>
> In my view, any research endeavor is also accompanied by some "ultimate"
> goals or ends that go beyond the quite explicit disciplinary ones. In this
> case, say, about the destiny of the constructs that would surround the
> information concept (or the possibility of framing an informational
> perspective, or a renewed information science, or whatever), wouldn't it be
> interesting discussing in extenso what could that ultimate vision?
>
> I mean, most of us may agree in quite many points related to the
> microphysical (& thermodynamic) underpinning of information, as it
> transpires in the exchanges we are having--but where do we want to arrive
> finally with the construction activity? I tend to disagree with localist
> aims, even though at the time being they may look more prudent and
> parsimonious. Putting it in brief, too briefly!, and borrowing from
> Rosenbloom (P.S. 2013. On Computing: The Fourth Great Scientific Domain)
> the idea is that information science, properly developed and linked with
> computer science and mathematics, should constitute one of the Great
> Domains of contemporary science. The informational would go together with
> the physical, the biological, and the social: constituting the four great
> domains of science. See Figure below. Rather than attempting the
> construction of another average or standard discipline, information science
> is about the making out of one of the “great scientific domains” of
> contemporary knowledge.
>
> More cogent arguments could be elaborated on how to cover sceintifically
> the whole "information world" (human societies, behaving individuals, brain
> organization, cellular processes, biomolecules) and the problem of
> interlocking--crisscrossing a myriad of information flows at all levels.
> But the point is, "ends", although unassailable, may be as much important
> as "beginnings".
>
> Thanks in advance for the patience!
>
> ---Pedro
>
>
>
>
>
> *Figure 1. The Four Great Domains of Science*. The graphic shows the
> network of contemporary disciplines in the background;
> while the superimposed “four-leaf clover” represents the four great
> scientific domains.
>
>
> --
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Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Pedro, this image is strongly related to my research.
My graduation and master degree was in Physics. But now I am in IS world
through PhD program of IBICT/UFRJ in Brazil.
As you, Jorge and Raquel said (Navarro, Moral, Marijuan, 2013), IS is about
to become one of four great scientific domains. Don't you think that one of
the greatest reasons of it is the (big) interdisciplinar nature of IS?
(Saracevic, 1995). Interdisciplinarity is in IS's "DNA" :-)
I am investigating some aspects of interdisciplinarity between IS and
Natural Sciences (Physics, Chemistry and Biology) (inspired by Capurros's
work http://www.capurro.de/infoconcept.html).
Some questions of this research are: 1) why (or how) a natural scientist
enters in IS world? What are their motivations?; 2) how strong this
interdisciplinarity is? (inspired by Loet's works on the theme - for
example, Leydesdorff, Rafols (2011)); 4) How the physical concepts of
information are present in IS articles.
I believe that inside FIS I will find many answers to my questions. By
observation of Scientific Communication and Bibliometrics and of course, if
I have the opportunity, by interviewing the members of FIS :-)
I can say that in only few weeks of FIS I already have learned a lot :-)
Best,
Moises.


Navarro, J.; Moral, R; Marijuan, P; Uprising of the Informational: Towards
a New Way of Thinking In Information Science. Proceedings of the 1st
International Conference on Philosophy of Information, Xi'an (2013)
Saracevic, Tefko. "Interdisciplinary nature of information science."
Ciência da informação 24.1 (1995): 36-41.
Leydesdorff, Loet, and Ismael Rafols. "Indicators of the
interdisciplinarity of journals: Diversity, centrality, and citations."
Journal of Informetrics 5.1 (2011): 87-100.


2015-01-19 10:19 GMT-02:00 Pedro C. Marijuan :

>  Thanks Moises, here it is --in case the list server suppresses the image
> again, the dropbox link below contains the image too (at the end of the
> philoinfo paper, belonging to the Proceedings of the Xian Conference,
> 2013). best ---Pedro
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wslnk41c3lquc55/AADpm_U6xuhm6jHK0esyN-29a?dl=0
>
>
>
>  *Figure 1. The Four Great Domains of Science*. The graphic shows the
> network of contemporary disciplines in the background (following Bollen *et
> al*., 2009); while the superimposed “four-leaf clover” represents the
> four great scientific domains: physical, biological, social, and
> informational.
>
>
>
> Moisés André Nisenbaum wrote:
>
> Hi, Pedro.
> I didnt receive th image (Figure 1. The Four Great Domains of Science)
> Would you please send it again?
>
>  Thank you.
>
>  Moises
>
>
>
> --
> -
> Pedro C. Marijuán
> Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group
> Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la Salud
> Centro de Investigación Biomédica de Aragón (CIBA)
> Avda. San Juan Bosco, 13, planta X
> 50009 Zaragoza, Spain
> Tfno. +34 976 71 3526 (& 
> 6818)pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.eshttp://sites.google.com/site/pedrocmarijuan/
> -
>
>


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Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Hi Guy.
It seams that you sent your message only to me :-)
I am forwarding now to FIS
By the way, "Domain Analisys" as in Knowledge Organization (Hjørland,
Birger. "Domain analysis in information science: eleven
approaches–traditional as well as innovative." Journal of documentation
58.4 (2002): 422-462.) is also a good approach.
Best
Moises


2015-01-21 18:24 GMT-02:00 Guy A Hoelzer :

>  Hi All,
>
>  “Domain” implies a kind of silo to me.  Information science is emerging
> with intensive interaction among people in a relatively small community of
> colleagues, which is indeed silo-like even though we generally see it as a
> deep layer of scientific inquiry that can unite traditional domains.  In
> other words, at least some of us would like to see information science
> ultimately achieve recognition as an higher order scientific enterprise
> within which (all?) scientific domains are embedded.  This hierarchical
> view is nicely captured with Stan’s subsumptive hierarchy scheme:
>
>  {information science {physics {chemistry {biology {social sciences}
>
>  Of course, this view also suggests that the scientific disciplines
> within information science are not, or should not be, domains, either.  As
> an evolutionary biologist myself, that is exactly the way I think about
> it.  I would not say that biology exists outside of chemistry or physics,
> and I see the social sciences as specialized sub-disciplines of biology.
> The ‘domains of science’ illustration reveals a degree of isolation between
> the traditional disciplines, but I think those boundaries are breaking down
> over time and information science could help to speed up the integration
> among disciplines.  I, for one, think that would represent scientific
> progress.
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Guy
>
> Guy Hoelzer, Associate Professor
> Department of Biology
> University of Nevada Reno
>
> Phone:  775-784-4860
> Fax:  775-784-1302
> hoel...@unr.edu
>
>  On Jan 21, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Moisés André Nisenbaum <
> moises.nisenb...@ifrj.edu.br> wrote:
>
>  Pedro, this image is strongly related to my research.
> My graduation and master degree was in Physics. But now I am in IS world
> through PhD program of IBICT/UFRJ in Brazil.
> As you, Jorge and Raquel said (Navarro, Moral, Marijuan, 2013), IS is
> about to become one of four great scientific domains. Don't you think that
> one of the greatest reasons of it is the (big) interdisciplinar nature of
> IS? (Saracevic, 1995). Interdisciplinarity is in IS's "DNA" :-)
> I am investigating some aspects of interdisciplinarity between IS and
> Natural Sciences (Physics, Chemistry and Biology) (inspired by Capurros's
> work http://www.capurro.de/infoconcept.html).
> Some questions of this research are: 1) why (or how) a natural scientist
> enters in IS world? What are their motivations?; 2) how strong this
> interdisciplinarity is? (inspired by Loet's works on the theme - for
> example, Leydesdorff, Rafols (2011)); 4) How the physical concepts of
> information are present in IS articles.
> I believe that inside FIS I will find many answers to my questions. By
> observation of Scientific Communication and Bibliometrics and of course, if
> I have the opportunity, by interviewing the members of FIS :-)
> I can say that in only few weeks of FIS I already have learned a lot :-)
> Best,
> Moises.
>
>
>  Navarro, J.; Moral, R; Marijuan, P; Uprising of the Informational:
> Towards a New Way of Thinking In Information Science. Proceedings of the
> 1st International Conference on Philosophy of Information, Xi'an (2013)
> Saracevic, Tefko. "Interdisciplinary nature of information science."
> Ciência da informação 24.1 (1995): 36-41.
>  Leydesdorff, Loet, and Ismael Rafols. "Indicators of the
> interdisciplinarity of journals: Diversity, centrality, and citations."
> Journal of Informetrics 5.1 (2011): 87-100.
>
>
> 2015-01-19 10:19 GMT-02:00 Pedro C. Marijuan :
>
>>  Thanks Moises, here it is --in case the list server suppresses the
>> image again, the dropbox link below contains the image too (at the end of
>> the philoinfo paper, belonging to the Proceedings of the Xian Conference,
>> 2013). best ---Pedro
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wslnk41c3lquc55/AADpm_U6xuhm6jHK0esyN-29a?dl=0
>>
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> *Figure 1. The Four Great Domains of Science*. The graphic shows the
>> network of contemporary disciplines in the background (following Bollen *et
>> al*., 2009); while the superimposed “four-leaf clover” represents the
>> four great scientific domains: physical, biological, social, and
>> informational.
>>
>>
>>

Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

I agree with Pedro.
That is the way I understand that the concept of "Domain" must be discussed
in Information Science.
About the "explosion" in number of disciplines, this is analized and called
"Knowledge Pathology (Patologia do Saber)" by Hilton Japiassu (a great
brazilian philosopher) and in his book (below) is the explanation on how
this phenomenon can leads to Interdisciplinarity.

Japiassu, Hilton. Interdisciplinaridade e patologia do saber. Imago
Editora, 1976.



2015-01-22 13:58 GMT-02:00 Pedro C. Marijuan :

>  Dear Moises, Guy, Stan---and colleagues,
>
> I would not agree with the "silo" interpretation of scientific domains, at
> least that's not the way Rosenbloom and many others (myself included)
> understand them. See the reference mentioned below by Moises and my own 
> (Scientomics:
> An emergent perspective in knowledge organization. Pedro C. Marijuán,
> Raquel del Moral and Jorge Navarro. *Knowledge organization* 2012, 39
> (3), 153-164.) About the subsumption hierarchy that Stan introduces, in
> what extent is it a relevant trait? Compositionally, the main objects of
> those big sciences conform to it, but the disciplines themselves? I doubt.
> Besides, along that view a new form of reductionism creeps in: "everything
> from bit". Hierarchy between domains? Just a look at the background map of
> the sciences in the figure below, empirically obtained from citations,
> shows an amazing dispersion and inter-penetration of disciplines between
> the four Great Domains. There appear hundreds of disciplines in the figure
> but the overall tallying may escalate to several thousands (between 5,000
> and 10,000 depending on the criteria).
>
> An interesting question: Why do we create such an astonishing  number of
> disciplines? Methodologically it is unclear that the creation, growth and
> stagnation of disciplines respond to single logic criteria. Rather, we have
> suggested a massive "social" communication between disciplines that
> conduces to "recombination phenomena" of knowledge bodies among them. For
> instance, influential bodies such as Euclidian geometry, Newtonian
> mechanics, differential equations, genetics, and so on (and a multitude of
> other minor modules), would have generated the history of sciences, not
> only “developmentally” inside their own fields, but even more
> “combinatorially”, propelling the multidisciplinary evolution and
> cross-fertilization among scientific disciplines.
>
> In the main track of the current discussion (It was nice hearing from
> Koichiro!) we are establishing the boundaries or interfaces between the
> nuclear information science and thermodynamics, but the relationship with
> physics is far more complex, as we must establish the interfaces with
> quantum information, physics of self-organization and emergence, and with
> cosmological information too. It is impossible to mix together all these
> discussions (as Terry remarked a few days ago concerning the relationships
> with quantum information). In the extent  to which  some of these
> particular discussions become particularly fertile, new fields will emerge
> within the overlap of physics and information domains.
>
> Some comments in Rosenbloom's book on the relationship between information
> and computing are quite interesting for this discussion and for
> interlocking with the main discussion track... but this message is becoming
> too long.
>
> All the best--Pedro
>
>
>
> Moisés André Nisenbaum wrote:
>
> Hi Guy.
> It seams that you sent your message only to me :-)
> I am forwarding now to FIS
> By the way, "Domain Analisys" as in Knowledge Organization (Hjørland,
> Birger. "Domain analysis in information science: eleven
> approaches–traditional as well as innovative." Journal of documentation
> 58.4 (2002): 422-462.) is also a good approach.
>  Best
>  Moises
>
>
> 2015-01-21 18:24 GMT-02:00 Guy A Hoelzer :
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>  “Domain” implies a kind of silo to me.  Information science is emerging
>> with intensive interaction among people in a relatively small community of
>> colleagues, which is indeed silo-like even though we generally see it as a
>> deep layer of scientific inquiry that can unite traditional domains.  In
>> other words, at least some of us would like to see information science
>> ultimately achieve recognition as an higher order scientific enterprise
>> within which (all?) scientific domains are embedded.  This hierarchical
>> view is nicely captured with Stan’s subsumptive hierarchy scheme:
>>
>>  {information science {physics {chemistry {biology {social sciences}
>>
>>  Of course, this v

Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 10, Issue 29

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

in
>
> English this word has the meaning of a form of organization whereas in
>
> French it has the meaning of training).  And these associations are just
> the
>
> beginning.
>
>
> Formal cause links to efficient cause, material cause and final cause ala
>
> Aristotle.
>
>
> Origin of the word information as forming the mind:
>
>
> “The English word information according to the Oxford English Dictionary
>
> (OED) first appears in the written record in 1386 by Chaucer: “Whanne
>
> Melibee hadde herd the grete skiles and resons of Dame Prudence, and hire
>
> wise informacions and techynges.” The word is derived from Latin through
>
> French by combining the word inform meaning giving a form to the mind with
>
> the ending “ation” denoting a noun of action. This earliest definition
>
> refers to an item of training or molding of the mind (Logan 2014).”
>
>
> Other words associated with information:
>
>
> Interpretation, interpret, clarify, construe, decipher, depict, elucidate,
>
> explicate, connotation, exegetics
>
>
> Sign: significance, signify, signification, significant, sign, designate,
>
> specify, identify
>
>
> Reference, refer, referee, referential, infer, indicate, indicative, index,
>
> point out,
>
>
> Represent, stand for
>
>
> Semiotics: icon, index, symbol
>
>
> Language, concept, conceive, percept, perceive
>
>
> Language, semantics, syntax, pragmatics, grammar, langue, parole (as
> defined
>
> by de Saussure)
>
>
> Inspire; Inspiration;
>
>
> Meaning, the mean, the means
>
>
> Sentience
>
>
> Cybernetics – Wiener - feedback
>
>
> Medium; The medium is the message; The two messages of a medium: its
> content
>
> and its effect independent of its content - McLuhan.
>
>
> Message
>
>
> Communicate, communication, commune
>
>
> Rhetoric; Context; The context of information helps define the meaning of a
>
> communication or utterance; Feedforward – I. A. Richards, pragmatics
>
>
> Figure/ground: The meaning, significance or the interpretation of a figure
>
> depends on the ground. environment or surroundings it operates in - McLuhan
>
>
> Umwelt innenwelt umgebung – Euxkull
>
>
> One can apply the notion of umwelt to humans and each individual has their
>
> own unique umwelt or context in which they percieve the world and conceive
>
> their thoughts. Their innenwelt or self-oriented features shape their
>
> umgebung or world-oriented features. Translating this into McLuhan speak
> the
>
> innenwelt is the ground and the umgebung is the figure from which I
> conclude
>
> it is the innenwelt that detrmines the interpretation of what is perceived
>
> to form the umgebung, or world-oriented features.
>
> Shannon information, sender, channel, receiver
>
>
> Selective information versus structural information: “Mackay’s first move
>
> was to rescue information that affected the receiver’s mindset from the
>
> ‘subjective’ label. He proposed that both Shannon and Bavelas were
> concerned
>
> with what he called Selective information, that is information calculated
> by
>
> considering the selection of message elements from a set. But selective
>
> information alone is not enough; also required is another kind of
>
> information that he called ‘structural.’ Structural information indicates
>
> how selective information is to be understood; it is a message about how to
>
> interpret a message—that is, it is a metacommunication (Hayles 1999a, pp.
>
> 54-55 cited by Logan 2014).” [bolding mine]
>
>
> Shannon was not shannonian {He did not overdo the interpretation of
>
> Shannonian entropy as did many advocates of information theory.
>
> Understand, comprehend, apprehend, appreciate,
>
>
> Respond, reply
>
>
> Deixis (deictic) words that point, words and phrases that cannot be fully
>
> understood without additional contextual information; a word whose meaning
>
> is dependent on context
>
>
> Words are woven together to form a text just as threads are woven to form a
>
> textile, which usually refers to written communication. There is also the
>
> notion that one spins a yarn, which describes oral communication.
>
>
> Letters, literacy, literal
>
>
> Data, Information, Knowledge, Wisdom: The relationship of data,
> information,
>
> knowledge and wisdom
>
>
> “Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge?
>
>
> Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?” ­– TS Eliot
>
>
> “Where is the meaning we have lost in information?” ­– RK Logan
>
>
> “• Data are the pure and simple facts without any particular structure or
>
> organization, the
>
>
>  basic atoms of information,
>
>
> • Information is structured data, which adds meaning to the data and gives
>
> it context and
>
>
>  significance,
>
>
> • Knowledge is the ability to use information strategically to achieve
> one's
>
> objectives, and
>
>
> • Wisdom is the capacity to choose objectives consistent with one's values
>
> and within a larger social context (Logan 2014).”
>
>
> __
>
>
> Robert K. Logan
>
> Prof. Emeritus - Physics - U. of Toronto
>
> Chief Scientist - sLab at OCAD
>
> http://utoronto.academia.edu/RobertKLogan
>
> www.physics.utoronto.ca/Members/logan
>
> www.researchgate.net/profile/Robert_Logan5/publications
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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> University of California, Berkeley
>
>
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Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 11, Issue 10

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Hi, Pedro.

Yes, of course! It would be a very interesting discution :-)

Best,
Moisés


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> -- Mensagem encaminhada --
> From: "Pedro C. Marijuan" 
> To: "'fis'" 
> Cc:
> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:02:15 +0100
> Subject: [Fis] Concluding the Lecture
> Dear FIS Colleagues,
>
> February is well advanced, and it is time to put a definite end to the New
> Year Lecture. We have had a very interesting discussion time, though rather
> silent in these final days. It was nice counting with Terry chairmanship,
> he has had a very hard work with all those responses--thanks a lot to him.
> Thanks are also due to Bob Logan for his implication in organizing the
> Lecture and to the Pirates thought collective for their participation.
> In the next session, in ten days or so, we will approach the global
> phenomenon of intelligence: artificial and natural, rational and emotional,
> scientific and artistic, East and West... let us wait and see.
>
> Also, hearing from  Ken Herold on Library Science and from Moises Andre on
> interaction between disciplines was sort of a nice surprise: the connection
> between the traditional approach and the new one becomes a highly strategic
> goal for information science. Maybe it is one of the topics we have to
> address in a specific discussion session. Moises, Ken--does it sound
> interesting?
>
> Best wishes to all
>
> --Pedro
>
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Re: [Fis] THE FOURTH GREAT DOMAIN OF SCIENCE: INFORMATIONAL?

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Physics students in Brazil do not read much about philosophy. They should
read more :-). I remember I thought that the physical universe was entirely
explained by mathematics. I found out later, for example, a huge number of
mathematically possible universes. Then, I was then presented to the
anthropic principle. The fact is that physicists has a tendency to believe
only on what can be proven experimentally. I believe that it is not only a
characteristic of Physics.

In the case of Information Science, Bibliometrics have given an important
part of its experimental proofs. The tool Loet presented in the 1st post is
so simple to use that I decided to make a test. I searched the Web of
Science for the word "information" in Titles of Scientific Articles and
overlay this search on maps of of science (10 in 10 years). The results are:
Video with images generated by VOSviwer: http://youtu.be/RWo4BL5pSds
Video with images generated by Pajek: http://youtu.be/ivCYqg3VW4M

My idea is to map a particular discipline on the four great domains:
Physical, Life, Social and Informational.
Any suggestion?


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Re: [Fis] Mutual Redundancies and Triple Contingencies among Perspectives on Horizons of Meaning

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Thank you, Loet.
This share is very important specially for me that could not go to
conference.
If possible, I ask for other colleagues to do the same :-).

Loet, I am particularly interested in "Measurement of Meaning". Did you
write some paper about it? Is it something similar to your work on
measuring interdisciplinarity (i.e. Leydesdorff, Loet, Félix Moya‐Anegón,
and Vicente P. Guerrero‐Bote. "Journal maps, interactive overlays, and the
measurement of interdisciplinarity on the basis of Scopus data
(1996–2012)." Journal of the Association for Information Science and
Technology (2014).)?

Best,
Moisés




2015-06-07 6:39 GMT-03:00 Loet Leydesdorff :

> Dear colleagues,
>
>
>
> I uploaded my presentation entitled “*Mutual Redundancies and Triple
> Contingencies among Perspectives on Horizons of Meaning”*
>
> at the conference of International Society for Information Studies,
> Vienna, 3-7 June 2014; Session: Integration of the Philosophy of
> Information and Information Science, to:
>
>
> http://figshare.com/articles/Mutual_Redundancies_and_Triple_Contingencies_among_Perspectives_on_Horizons_of_Meaning/1439441
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Loet
>
>
> --
>
> Loet Leydesdorff
>
> *Emeritus* University of Amsterdam
> Amsterdam School of Communication Research (ASCoR)
>
> l...@leydesdorff.net ; http://www.leydesdorff.net/
> Honorary Professor, SPRU, <http://www.sussex.ac.uk/spru/>University of
> Sussex;
>
> Guest Professor Zhejiang Univ. <http://www.zju.edu.cn/english/>,
> Hangzhou; Visiting Professor, ISTIC,
> <http://www.istic.ac.cn/Eng/brief_en.html>Beijing;
>
> Visiting Professor, Birkbeck <http://www.bbk.ac.uk/>, University of
> London;
>
> http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYJ&hl=en
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Re: [Fis] Krassimir's Notes . . .

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Hi, Howard.
Answering your question "hb: i'm a newcomer to these discussions.  what is
the fourth great domain of science?" Might be useful also for who came in
the FIS list  after 2015 IS4IS Summit.
The last discussion before the conference, was "A Dialog on the
Informational as the 4th Great Domain of Science". A copy of the post is in
the end of this message.
Based on a Pedros's paper and Rosenbloom's book we propose that all
scientific disciplines could be a combination of 4 great scientific
domains. We are looking for a method to verify that the informational is
the 4th great domain. Maybe Loet's Maps of Science should be a good
approach.

Cheers

Moisés

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*A Dialog on the Informational as the 4th Great Domain of Science*
*Moisés André Nisenbaum & Ken Herold*


*PART 1:  **Informational as the 4th Great Domain of Science*
(Moisés André Nisenbaum)

To classify is human (BOWKER & STAR 2000). The organization of scientific
knowledge is concern of scientists long ago. It started as a matter of
librarianship and has evolved over time using various tools like
enumerative classification, faceted classification, universal
classification, controlled vocabulary, thesaurus, ontologies, Semantic Web.
But how Information Science should organize scientific knowledge taking
into account the dynamic behavior of disciplines and multi, inter and
trans-disciplinary science of the twenty-first century (Information
Society)?

Rosenbloom (2012) proposed a model in which four great Scientific Domains -
Physical (P) Life (L), social (S) and Computing (C) - can becombined to
form any discipline
<http://moisesandre.com.br/FIS/debate/images/rosembloom-figure-2.1-domains-composing-disciplines.jpg>.
The first three (P, L and S) are "well known" domains and he proposes that
the 4th is Computing. The small number of domains (compared with 10 of DDC
and UDC) is offset by dynamic
<http://moisesandre.com.br/FIS/debate/images/Rosenbloom-figure-2.9-relationships.jpg>
 relationships
<http://moisesandre.com.br/FIS/debate/images/Rosenbloom-figure-2.2-domains-simple-relations.jpg>
between
domains that can be written by Metascience Expression Language
<http://moisesandre.com.br/FIS/debate/images/Rosenbloom-table-2.1-ME-Language.jpg>.
Although the prerequisites of a Great Scientific Domain has been well
developed, Rosenbloom does not explain why they are in number of four or
why these specific four domains.

NAVARRO, MORAL and Marijuan (2013) propose that the 4th Great Scientific
Domain is the Informational (I) instead of Computing. However, the biggest
proposal is that the Information Science needs to be rethought to support
theoretically and methodologically this 4th Great Scientific Domain. At the
end of the article, the authors propose the insertion of the four Great
Scientific Domains
<http://moisesandre.com.br/FIS/debate/images/Map-Pedro.jpg> in
High-Resolution Map of Sciences (Bollen at all, 2009)
<http://moisesandre.com.br/FIS/debate/images/Map-Bollen.jpg>

The problem is that all this is still in its "philosophical field" and miss
a more pragmatic approach. When I observed this map, I just thought about
how to measure these four domains and, even without even knowing exactly
how to do this, I asked Bollen the raw data of his research. My initial
idea was to identify every scientific discipline by a mathematical entity,
for example a digital 4x4 matrix representing quantitatively the four Great
Scientific Domain components and their relationships. The problem how to
establish the criteria (bibliometric) that would define the matrix
elements. Once created, we can check if the matrices really come together
as expected.

Best,
Moisés

*References:*

BOWKER, Geoffrey C.; STAR, Susan Leigh. Sorting things out: Classification
and its consequences. MIT press, 2000.
<https://books.google.com.br/books?id=xHlP8WqzizYC&lpg=PR9&ots=Mz3xtCt2nE&dq=Sorting%20things%20out%3A%20Classification%20and%20its%20consequences.%20&lr&hl=pt-BR&pg=PR9#v=onepage&q=Sorting%20things%20out:%20Classification%20and%20its%20consequences.&f=false>

ROSENBLOOM, Paul S. On computing: the fourth great scientific domain. MIT
Press, 2012.
<https://books.google.com.br/books?id=WGfxkn8OkwAC&lpg=PP1&dq=On%20computing%3A%20the%20fourth%20great%20scientific%20domain.%20google%20books&hl=pt-BR&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q=On%20computing:%20the%20fourth%20great%20scientific%20domain.%20google%20books&f=false>

NAVARRO, Jorge; MORAL, Raquel del; MARIJUÁN, Pedro C.. The uprising of
informational: towards a new way of thinking Information Science. Presented
at 1st International Conference in China on the Philosophy of Information,
Xi’an, China, 18 October 2013.
<http:

[Fis] Ada Lovelace inspires a question: why are so few women in FIS list?

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Hi, Bob

Thank you for presenting Ada Lovelace to the list. It was great the link
you did with previous discussions.

Hi, all.

Have we ever had a discussion about why are so few women in FIS list?

I was yesterday in a seminar that shows that it is a general problem in
Science, especially in "hard" disciplines. But there are many women in
Mathematics and Information Science fields, so I expected more women in FIS.

This makes me remember the great speak of Neil Degrasse Tyson (3 min) on
being Black and Women in Science (https://youtu.be/z7ihNLEDiuM).

What do you think about it?

All the best,
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[Fis] Concluding the Session on the Great Domains - brief analysis

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Dear FIS Colleagues,

First, I want to thank Pedro and everyone the opportunity to introduce,
participate and observe the development of debate “THE FOURTH GREAT DOMAIN
OF SCIENCE: INFORMATIONAL?”

 I spent the last days documenting the posts related to this discussion. On
this basis, I will present some numbers and comments about these rich
discussions.


1) The debate has 114 posts in 26 subjects. The subjects were grouped by
similarity and the count is shown in the table below.


  Subject  # of posts

 THE FOURTH GREAT DOMAIN OF SCIENCE: INFORMATIONAL?

26

 It From Bit

26

 Philosophy, Computing, and Information - apologies!

16

 It-from-Bit and information interpretation of QM

12

 FIS newcomer

11

 What are "information" and "science"?

7

 Krassimir's Notes . . .

6

 QM and information

2

 We have different “fen clubs” depending of sympathy to one or other
definition of information

2

 Ada Lovelace inspires a question: why are so few women in FIS list?

2

 Concluding the Session on the Great Domains

1

 Thinking Out Loud – a “meaning (-ful/less) continuum”

1

 information as physical entity

1

 Garfield 1955 - organizing metadata for scientific literature

1

*Totals*

114



Of course, the subject of debate had the highest number of posts. The topic
"It from bit", brought by Ken through a video, philosophical discussions
about information was also of great interest.



2) 31 people participated in the debate. The number of each author posts
and the number of times each one have been cited are in the table below:
  Post authors and cited

Author

Cited

John Collier 

11

15

Loet Leydesdorff 

9

11

Marcus Abundis <55m...@gmail.com>

9

10

Joseph Brenner 

8

8

Ken Herold 

7

5

Pedro C. Marijuan 

7

11

Francesco Rizzo <13francesco.ri...@gmail.com>

6

2

Krassimir Markov 

5

6

Moisés André Nisenbaum 

5

8

Stanley N Salthe 

5

4

Steven Ericsson-Zenith 

5

2

Xueshan Yan 

4

1

Andrei Khrennikov 

3

2

Emanuel Diamant 

3

4

Koichiro Matsuno 

3

5

Robert K. Logan 

3

4

Bruno Marchal 

2

2

Dai Griffiths 

2

1

Howard Bloom 

2

3

Jeremy Sherman 

2

1

Jerry LR Chandler 

2

1

Rafael Capurro 

2

6

Robert E. Ulanowicz 

2

1

Srinandan Dasmahapatra 

2

2

Terrence W. DEACON 

2

2

Dino Buzzetti 

1

2

Günther Witzany 

1

0

Søren Brier 

1

0

Søren 

0

1

witzany 

0

2

*Totals*

114

122



The posts were very interesting. Despite the limitation of two messages per
week, most of the participants contributed significantly. I believe that
was many private messages, which unfortunately I did not have how to
analyze. I had the opportunity to exchange a few private messages with
Pedro, Ken, Bob, Capurro, Jhon, Loet and Joseph, and all was precious,
thank you!

3) I also made a qualitative analysis of the posts that I will not bring
here because it is very extensive. In particular, the group brought several
topics from physics. This physical <---> information association is of
great interest to my research (I study interdisciplinarity between physics
and information science).



If anyone is interested in the raw data this little analysis, just ask me.



Thank you very much,



Um abraço for all!



Moisés


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Re: [Fis] Concluding the Session on the Great Domains - brief analysis

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Hi, Pedro.
I think that your and Raquel's work on historic organization of FIS
discussion is very important to all FISers.
Thank you very much for this (hard) work, and if you need any help, you can
count on me :-)
Bibliometric studies on FIS list will be part of my PhD research and I hope
I can interview FIS members (as I did with Bob - it was an amazing
interview!) to add qualitative data to this measurements.

About "collective intelligence", it reminds me Pierre Levy's book
"Collective Intelligence: Mankind's Emerging World in Cyberspace" (1997)
that explain what is his definition Collective Intelligence and
some developments. His article "From social computing to reflexive
collective intelligence: The IEML research program" (2010) in "Information
Sciences" journal proposes a Information Economy MetaLanguage to work
with Collective Intelligence concept. It is a very interesting subject, but
unfortunately I didn't have time to read much about.

About the crisis on "creative thought and deep interdisciplinary
engagement", in my opinion is because science today (as many other things)
is always in a hurry. Researches are where the money is. And "money" wants
results as fast as possible. But there are good initiatives, like this list
and ArXiv for example, that is working against this system.


Best,

Moisés


References:

LÉVY, Pierre. Collective Intelligence: Mankind’s Emerging World in
Cyberspace. Cambrigde, Mass.: Perseus Books, 1997.
LÉVY, Pierre. From social computing to reflexive collective intelligence:
The IEML research program. Information Sciences, v. 180, n. 1, p. 71-94,
2010.



2015-07-10 8:30 GMT-03:00 Pedro C. Marijuan :

> Dear Moises, Ken, and FIS colleagues,
>
> First of all, thanks to you two for chairing the discussion session. Also,
> for a different matter, to Raquel del Moral. She has been working with me
> in the complete archive of fis messages and recapitulating the whole fis
> discussion-sessions celebrated (starting by the the "virtual conference"
> long ago, in 1998). It is a big novelty in the fis webpage. Please, have a
> glance at:  http://fis.sciforum.net/fis-discussion-sessions/
> Hopefully it will allow quite many future bibliometric studies...
>
> A closer relationship between classical information/library science and a
> renewed information science as was attempted in the session is important.
> Organizing the stock of accumulated knowledge in this epoch of
> multidisciplinarity, of instant data access, of increasing research
> complexity, of pervasive big data, of massive innovation, etc. should imply
> new thinking styles and a new reflection on the individual mind versus the
> aggregate system of collective intelligence. Unfortunately I do not see
> much advancement in that matter --even the opposite. The talk about the
> "global brain" is superficial at best. The attentional saturation of the
> social environment during the last decade is strongly diminishing the
> individual capabilities for really creative thought and deep
> interdisciplinary engagement (for instance, less and less interesting new
> books). The dangers inherent in the "mechanization of knowledge", as was
> warning a celebrated essay by Harold Innis (McLuhan's mentor), could become
> real  in our time.
>
> So, if the above lamentations have a grain of truth, we have not much
> succeeded in the ongoing discussion. If the new mission of library science,
> hand to hand with the new information science, should also include the
> qualitative thinking on the social and institutional conditions for
> advancement of knowledge in its widest sense (humanist too), we have a lot
> of pending work to do. I hope not to be sounding pessimistic! I was
> motivated by some recent comment of an Indian researcher (Sunita Narain) on
> waste management: "the key obstacle is that everyday challenges are not top
> priorities for research and innovation. Indian science has always been
> fascinated by the 'masculine' agendas of space and genetics, not
> reinventing the toilet. Instead, science must meet the needs of poor
> people. We need to devise ways to prevent pollution rather than cleaning it
> up afterwards. Indian research has to be more humble, nimble and
> investigative... India's ambition should be to become front-runner in the
> race to save the planet." (Nature 2015, vol. 521, pp:155)
>
> Best--Pedro
>
>
> Moisés André Nisenbaum wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear FIS Colleagues,
>>
>> First, I want to thank Pedro and everyone the opportunity to introduce,
>> participate and observe the development of debate “THE FOURTH GREAT DOMAIN
>> OF SCIENCE: INFORMATIONAL?”
>>
>>  I spent the last days docume

Re: [Fis] Information Foundation of the Act--F.Flores & L.deMarcos

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Dear Fernando and Luis.
Thank you for the excellent article with innovative and consistent ideas.
I am specifically interested in its interfaces with physics.
When you talked about "Conservation of Information" (page 28) did you ever
though about some analogies with symmetries (i.e. Noether’s Theorem)?

Best.
Moisés

2015-07-22 9:33 GMT-03:00 Pedro C. Marijuan :

>
> * The informational foundation of the act*
> *Fernando Flores*
> Lund University
> fernando.flo...@kultur.lu.se
>
> *Luis de-Marcos*
> University of Alcalá
> luis.demar...@uah.es
>
> *See the whole text at: http://fis.sciforum.net/resources/
> <http://fis.sciforum.net/resources/>*
>
>  Our introducing paper (35 pages) presents a theory that quantifies the
> informational value of human acts. We argue that living is functioning
> against entropy and following Erwin Schrödinger we call this tendency
> “negentropy”. Negentropy is for us the reason behind “order” in social and
> cultural life. Further, we understand “order” as the condition that the
> world reaches when the informational value of a series of acts is low.
> Acting is presented as a set of decisions and choices that create order and
> this is the key concept of our understanding of the variation from
> simplicity to complexity in human acts. The most important aim of our
> theory is to measure non-economic acts trying to understand and explain
> their importance for society and culture. In their turn such a theory will
> be also important to understand the similarities and differences between
> non-economic and economic acts.
> We follow the classical concept according to which informational value is
> proportional to the unlikelihood of an act. To capture the richness of the
> unlikelihood of human acts we use the frequency theory of probability
> developed by Ludwig von Mises and Karl Popper. Frequency theory of
> probability allows us to describe a variety of acts from the must most
> “free” to the least “free” with respect to precedent acts. In short, we
> characterize human acts in terms of their degree of freedom trying to set
> up a scale of the information and predictability carried out in human
> decisions. A taxonomy of acts is also presented, categorizing acts as
> destructive, mechanical, ludic or vital, according to their degree of
> freedom (complexity). A formulation to estimate the informational value in
> individual and collective acts follows. The final part of the paper
> presents and discuss the consequences of our theory. We argue that
> artifacts embed information and that modernization can be understood as a
> one-way process to embed acts of high levels of complexity in simple
> devices. However, our theory assumes that the total amount of information
> in the social and cultural world is constant and that Modernity only
> enables us to redistribute our informational potential. We also advocate
> for the development of a new science named “agnumetry”, the science that
> quantify Modernity, measuring the obsolescence of an environment (from
> agnumy the Greek word for “break”).
> In our study of human acts we found that acting can also be classified as
> productive, consumptive and as acts of exchange or economical. The
> informational value of acts can be the expression of any or all of these
> acting forms. We outline the relation between the informational value of
> production and the informational value of consumption (which we call
> “operative information”), and conclude that these acts define the
> non-economic value. Sometimes, and depending on the social level of
> informational value, the acts of exchange emerge defining the informational
> value of an item at the market, an informational value that assumes the
> shape of “price” justifying the use of money.
>
> --
> -
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> Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group
> Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la Salud
> Centro de Investigación Biomédica de Aragón (CIBA)
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Re: [Fis] Information and Locality Introduction

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Steven
Just to register.
I watched all Khan Academy videos.
They are awesome!
I will use them with my students.
Thank you.

Best

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2015-09-09 19:13 GMT-03:00 Steven Ericsson-Zenith :

> Dear List,
>
> This is the start of the next FIS discussion. And this is the first of
> several emails kicking the discussion off and divided into logical parts so
> as not to confront the reader with too many ideas and too much text at once.
>
> The subject is one that has concerned me ever since I completed my PhD in
> 1992. I came away from defending my thesis, essentially on large scale
> parallel computation, with the strong intuition that I had disclosed much
> more concerning the little that we know, than I had offered either a
> theoretical or engineering solution.
>
> For the curious, a digital copy of this thesis can be found among the
> reports of CRI, MINES ParisTech, formerly ENSMP,
> http://www.cri.ensmp.fr/classement/doc/A-232.pdf, it is also available as
> a paper copy on Amazon.
>
> Like many that have been involved in microprocessor and instruction
> set/language design, using mathematical methods, we share the physical
> concerns of a generation earlier, people like John Von Neumann, Alan
> Turing, and Claude Shannon. In other words, a close intersection between
> physical science and machine engineering.
>
> So I wish to proceed as follows, especially since this is a cross
> disciplinary group:
>
> First identify a statement of the domain, what is it that I, in
> particular, speak of when we use the term “Information.” I will clarify as
> necessary. I will then discuss the issue of locality, what I think that
> issue is and why it is a problem. Here we will get into several topics of
> classical discussion. I will briefly present my own mathematics for the
> problem in an informal yet rigorous style, reaching into the foundations of
> logic.
>
> I will then discuss some historical issues in particular referencing
> Benjamin Peirce, Albert Einstein and Alan Turing. And finally discuss the
> contemporary issues, as I see them, in biophysics, biology, and associated
> disciplines, reaching into human and other social constructions, perhaps
> touching on cosmology and the extended role of information theory in
> mathematical physics.
>
> This will seem very broad but in all cases I will focus upon the issues of
> locality they each present.
>
> Before my preparations for these discussions I surveyed existing
> pedagogical work to see how our science is currently presented and I came
> across the Khan Academy video series on Information Theory, authored by
> Brit Cruise.
>
> As flawed as I find this work, it is none-the-less an adequate place for
> us to start and to build upon. It does a good job in briefly presenting the
> work of Claude Shannon and others, in its second part on Modern Information
> Theory.
>
> I especially encourage advanced readers to take the few minutes it will
> take to review the Origin of Markov Chains, A Mathematical Theory of
> Communication, Information Entropy, Compression Codes and Error Correction
> to set the field and ensure that we are on the same page. You may also find
> the final video on SETI work interesting, it will be relevant as we proceed.
>
> You can review these short videos on YouTube and here:
>
> https://www.khanacademy.org/computing/computer-science/informationtheory
>
> or here:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbg3ZX2pWlgKDVFNwn9B63UhYJVIerzHL
>
> I invite you to review these videos as the context for my next posting
> that will be a discussion of what is good about this model, locality, and
> what is, I now argue, fundamentally missing or wrong headed.
>
> Pedro, at the end of this I will aggregate these parts for the FIS wiki.
>
> Regards,
> Steven
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Re: [Fis] Five Momenta

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Hi, Pedro.
Hi, FISers.

I understand that Pedro proposed a discussion about the discussions, and I
think it is very necessary.
There are more than contents in this list, the structure and directions of
the discussions are also important. After all, one of the main objectives
of Information Science is to analyze Scientific Communications (I consider
FIS messages informal scientific communications). So, I am very interested
in this "pause" to discuss discussions.

Permit to make an analogy. The term "momentum" is used in Physics to
express the amount of movement (*p* = m.*v*). Velocity (*v*) representing
not only speed but also direction and mass representing the inertia. To
change the momentum, you will need force (*F* = d*p*/dt), so it is to
change the momentum of a discussion. Depending on the inertia of
discussion, it can be difficult. As Pedro said, the momenta must be
"aligned": same direction --> more impulse --> we can go farther in less
time.
So, Pedro classified the discussions in five momenta (categories or tags):
1) Philosophy
2) Biomolecular (primordials of life and cellular organization)
3) Organismic and the Neuronal (evolutionary outcomes)
4) Human Sociality (up to social complexity)
5) Communication and Information

Pedro is claiming that 4th and 5th momenta are weak in FIS discussions.
I am doing now a little essay tagging the messages of the last discussion
"Information and Locality". I will count them and see if this unbalanced
momenta is true.
Soon I will publish here the results.

All the best.
Moisés


2015-10-20 13:31 GMT-02:00 Pedro C. Marijuan :

> Dear FISers,
>
> In response to the recent philosophical exchanges, and curiously waiting
> to see how Steven solves his final posts (Benjamin Peirce is such an
> unjustly forgotten figure, not to speak about his arch-famous son), let me
> try some new "tangent" on the ongoing debate... I see but five different
> and interrelated "momenta" that should be aligned for the hypothetical
> advancement of the common info field.  The first one corresponds to
> philosophy, as the critical playground where dissatisfaction with the
> existing views should conduce to attempting more congenial new ways of
> thinking. Unsolved problems of the sciences, when they are general and
> affect several disciplines, easily generate philosophical debate--which can
> be helpful to suggest new inroads. Saying clearly "nope" to some
> philosophical and para-philosophical schools is quite valuable although it
> easily generates irritation and obfuscation in the concerned parties (that
> ingredient of "piquancy" also enlivens the debates).
>
> The second momentum would correspond to the biomolecular (primordials of
> life and cellular organization). The third momentum would wrap around the
> organismic and the neuronal (the evolutionary outcomes of multicellular
> life up to advanced nervous systems). I think they are so obvious that do
> not deserve further comment.
>
> The fourth momentum involves the roots of human sociality, up to the
> historical development of social complexity. And the fifth momentum belongs
> to the contemporary revolution around communication, information, etc.
> These two social momenta are being egregiously forgotten in most of our
> debates (not any more with the planned discussion sessions!)
>
> Unfortunately, none of those momenta --even looking too far away-- should
> be left in the dark. Most of our discussions seem to deal with the
> instrumental aspect, the math theories, constructs, and other knowledge
> bodies that may help to characterize abstractly different structures and
> dynamics where some classes of information seem to be involved. It is not
> difficult to achieve some interesting results in those theoretical and
> para-theoretical realms... but without connecting with some of those big
> momenta, trying to ride on their impetus, it won't be significant.
> A new multidisciplinary itinerary is needed--neither the piece meal nor
> the continuous entanglement would work to achieve it. Personally I find
> that the goal is very difficult. Too many things in too very disperse
> realms have to be cohered... So the allure of this crazy story!
>
> All the best--Pedro
>
> --
> -
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> Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group
> Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la Salud
> Centro de Investigación Biomédica de Aragón (CIBA)
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> 50009 Zaragoza, Spain
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Re: [Fis] Five Momenta

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Dear Francesco.
It was a misunderstanding.
The word "weak" in frase " 4th and 5th momenta are weak in FIS
discussions." has a quantitative (not qualitative) meaning.
In statistical context "weak" means "few times".
It is not my intention to qualify the discussions, I want to count them. :-)

You will see when I publish the results.

All the best.
Moisés


2015-10-29 11:52 GMT-02:00 Francesco Rizzo <13francesco.ri...@gmail.com>:

> Caro Moises Andrè e Cari Tutti,
> resto sorpreso del fatto che si ritenga debole la discussione sulle
> scienze sociali. Soprattutto in questi ultimi anni ho comunicato di avere
> inventato una "Nuova economia" basata proprio sulla terna semiotica della
> significazione, dell'informazione e della comunicazione. Addirittura il Fis
> dibattito serrato  e avvincente sul processo di tras-informazione o sul
> triangolo dei tre surplus (neg-entropia naturale e termodinamica,
> ecobiologica e semiotico-semantica) si ritrova su Internet(google). Mentre
> una dozzina di volte, se non di più, ho dichiarato che la mia teoria del
> valore si fonda sulla legge dell'informazione. Per non parlare dei miei
> numerosissimi libri che ho citato. L'unica attenuante nei confronti di chi
> esprime giudizi così ingiusti è che io uso la lingua italiana. Ma di questo
> non mi vergogno nè mi vanto;. è sempre goliardico il mio modo di
> partecipare alla discussione cercando di tener conto delle altre scienze e
> del loro linguaggio per quanto m'è possibile e riconoscendo la dignità
> scientifica di molti dei Vostri interventi.
> Saluti.
> Francesco Rizzo.
>
> 2015-10-29 10:45 GMT+01:00 Moisés André Nisenbaum <
> moises.nisenb...@ifrj.edu.br>:
>
>> Hi, Pedro.
>> Hi, FISers.
>>
>> I understand that Pedro proposed a discussion about the discussions, and
>> I think it is very necessary.
>> There are more than contents in this list, the structure and directions
>> of the discussions are also important. After all, one of the main
>> objectives of Information Science is to analyze Scientific Communications
>> (I consider FIS messages informal scientific communications). So, I am very
>> interested in this "pause" to discuss discussions.
>>
>> Permit to make an analogy. The term "momentum" is used in Physics to
>> express the amount of movement (*p* = m.*v*). Velocity (*v*)
>> representing not only speed but also direction and mass representing the
>> inertia. To change the momentum, you will need force (*F* = d*p*/dt), so
>> it is to change the momentum of a discussion. Depending on the inertia of
>> discussion, it can be difficult. As Pedro said, the momenta must be
>> "aligned": same direction --> more impulse --> we can go farther in less
>> time.
>> So, Pedro classified the discussions in five momenta (categories or tags):
>> 1) Philosophy
>> 2) Biomolecular (primordials of life and cellular organization)
>> 3) Organismic and the Neuronal (evolutionary outcomes)
>> 4) Human Sociality (up to social complexity)
>> 5) Communication and Information
>>
>> Pedro is claiming that 4th and 5th momenta are weak in FIS discussions.
>> I am doing now a little essay tagging the messages of the last discussion
>> "Information and Locality". I will count them and see if this unbalanced
>> momenta is true.
>> Soon I will publish here the results.
>>
>> All the best.
>> Moisés
>>
>>
>> 2015-10-20 13:31 GMT-02:00 Pedro C. Marijuan :
>>
>>> Dear FISers,
>>>
>>> In response to the recent philosophical exchanges, and curiously waiting
>>> to see how Steven solves his final posts (Benjamin Peirce is such an
>>> unjustly forgotten figure, not to speak about his arch-famous son), let me
>>> try some new "tangent" on the ongoing debate... I see but five different
>>> and interrelated "momenta" that should be aligned for the hypothetical
>>> advancement of the common info field.  The first one corresponds to
>>> philosophy, as the critical playground where dissatisfaction with the
>>> existing views should conduce to attempting more congenial new ways of
>>> thinking. Unsolved problems of the sciences, when they are general and
>>> affect several disciplines, easily generate philosophical debate--which can
>>> be helpful to suggest new inroads. Saying clearly "nope" to some
>>> philosophical and para-philosophical schools is quite valuable although it
>>> easily generates irritation and obfuscation in the concerned parties (that
>>> ingredient of &

[Fis] 5 momenta - results of counting messages

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Hi, dear FISers.
I finished to classify and count the messages in last discussion topic.
It was 72 messages from sep/09 to oct/18.
I tagged each message in one or more momenta:
1) Philosophy (PHIL)
2) Biomolecular (primordials of life and cellular organization) (BIO)
3) Organismic and the Neuronal (evolutionary outcomes) (ORG)
4) Human Sociality (up to social complexity) (SOC)
5) Communication and Information (IC)

The results are the sum of tags below:
1)PHIL2)BIO3)ORG4)SOC5)IC6)Other32416785

All the data and a graph are available at:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1u6uOsVMvpMUKxzzdufNXhv2vItHE3LtgF-O_zn9m2oI/pubhtml

Tagging was my interpretation. Of course authors tagging is better. If you
want to change your posts tagging, just access:
https://docs.google.com/a/moisesandre.com.br/spreadsheets/d/1u6uOsVMvpMUKxzzdufNXhv2vItHE3LtgF-O_zn9m2oI/edit?usp=sharing
P.S. Be sure to change only YOUR posts tags.

Um abraço!

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Re: [Fis] 5 momenta - results of counting messages

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Errata: it was 72 TAGS and 54 messages.
Best,
Moisés

2015-11-01 15:27 GMT-02:00 Moisés André Nisenbaum <
moises.nisenb...@ifrj.edu.br>:

> Hi, dear FISers.
> I finished to classify and count the messages in last discussion topic.
> It was 72 messages from sep/09 to oct/18.
> I tagged each message in one or more momenta:
> 1) Philosophy (PHIL)
> 2) Biomolecular (primordials of life and cellular organization) (BIO)
> 3) Organismic and the Neuronal (evolutionary outcomes) (ORG)
> 4) Human Sociality (up to social complexity) (SOC)
> 5) Communication and Information (IC)
>
> The results are the sum of tags below:
> 1)PHIL2)BIO3)ORG4)SOC5)IC6)Other32416785
>
> All the data and a graph are available at:
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1u6uOsVMvpMUKxzzdufNXhv2vItHE3LtgF-O_zn9m2oI/pubhtml
>
> Tagging was my interpretation. Of course authors tagging is better. If you
> want to change your posts tagging, just access:
>
> https://docs.google.com/a/moisesandre.com.br/spreadsheets/d/1u6uOsVMvpMUKxzzdufNXhv2vItHE3LtgF-O_zn9m2oI/edit?usp=sharing
> P.S. Be sure to change only YOUR posts tags.
>
> Um abraço!
>
> --
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> Doutorando IBICT/UFRJ. Professor. Msc.
> Instituto Federal do Rio de Janeiro - IFRJ
> Campus Maracanã
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>



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Re: [Fis] 5 momenta - results of counting messages

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Thank you, Pedro.
Of course a complete analysis of all FIS message would be fantastic, but it
is almost impossible (at least without AI) :-)
But I certainly will do Bibliometric quantitative and qualitative measures
on FIS list in my PhD Thesis.
For that, a categorization is very important and the 5 momenta was a first
step.
I agree that Information Science is in constant evolution (or even in a
paradigmatic change) and FIS discussions must take this into account.

About the 'The Information Universe' Conference, is very good to see a new
Physics area (Physics of Information) growing.


Marcus said:
"tagging by the author would be preferred, and even better if tagging was
part of the posting process (but not available with the software used)."
Yes, the spreadsheet was blocked, I am sorry for that.
But now the link to edit the spreadsheet is working fine:
https://docs.google.com/a/moisesandre.com.br/spreadsheets/d/1u6uOsVMvpMUKxzzdufNXhv2vItHE3LtgF-O_zn9m2oI/edit?usp=sharing

Um abraço
Moisés.

.


2015-11-06 9:42 GMT-02:00 Pedro C. Marijuan :

> Dear Moises and FIS Colleagues,
>
> Thanks a lot for the curious exploration. On the one side, it is "normal"
> finding such results in a session more or less devoted to the info locality
> topic --what results would be obtained by peering into the whole discussion
> sessions ( starting in 1998! See:
> http://fis.sciforum.net/fis-discussion-sessions/ ).  On the other side, I
> do not know whether it is too early to try to reify the momentum term with
> ad hoc measurements. But, yes, measurement should be used to clarify this
> nebulous idea, as it was just a metaphor stemming in the middle of
> something else. That there are strategic topics withing those fields below
> that should be realigned from the perspective of a nascent or renewed
> information science looks clear. Or stated otherwise, important
> "communicational" and "compositional" items in quite different entities
> might participate in a new info synthesis. The problem, and so the need of
> an "itinerary" is that they influence mutually and a series of successive
> visits or iterative attempts are needed for their coherent alignment. This
> necessary change of directions seems to justify the momentum metaphor. For
> instance, as an example in social science, it is curious that the
> genotype-phenotype-sociotype triad has been proposed independently by two
> authors (Elliot Berry and myself). Although with interesting differences,
> the sociotype construct we propose, covering both the relational structure
> of bonds and the communicative dynamics of each individual within the
> social environment, is pregnant with informational contents. Other similar
> topics in different fields would clearly surface as strategic info momenta.
>
> By the way, a highly interesting conference on information has taken place
> recently. See: http://physics.aps.org/articles/v8/103   (courtesy of
> Malcolm Dean.) *"Scientists Meet in the Information Universe: An
> innovative conference in the Netherlands brought together scientists from
> diverse backgrounds to reflect on the ways information shapes
> communication, science, and perhaps even nature itself." *Big figures of
> Physics (Hooft, Fredkin...), cosmology and other scientific branches  have
> participated. Quite interesting but, in the light of recent messages, allow
> me please this closing statement: "when the emphasis in Instrumenta becomes
> Impedimenta... "
>
> All the best--Pedro
>
>
>
> Moisés André Nisenbaum wrote:
>
> Hi, dear FISers.
> I finished to classify and count the messages in last discussion topic.
> It was 72 messages from sep/09 to oct/18.
> I tagged each message in one or more momenta:
> 1) Philosophy (PHIL)
> 2) Biomolecular (primordials of life and cellular organization) (BIO)
> 3) Organismic and the Neuronal (evolutionary outcomes) (ORG)
> 4) Human Sociality (up to social complexity) (SOC)
> 5) Communication and Information (IC)
>
> The results are the sum of tags below:
> 1)PHIL 2)BIO 3)ORG 4)SOC 5)IC 6)Other 32 4 16 7 8 5
>
> All the data and a graph are available at:
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1u6uOsVMvpMUKxzzdufNXhv2vItHE3LtgF-O_zn9m2oI/pubhtml
>
> Tagging was my interpretation. Of course authors tagging is better. If you
> want to change your posts tagging, just access:
>
> https://docs.google.com/a/moisesandre.com.br/spreadsheets/d/1u6uOsVMvpMUKxzzdufNXhv2vItHE3LtgF-O_zn9m2oI/edit?usp=sharing
> P.S. Be sure to change only YOUR posts tags.
>
> Um abraço!
>
> --
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> Doutorando IBICT/UFRJ. Professor. Msc.
> Instituto Federal do Rio de Janeiro - IFRJ
> Campus Maracanã
> moises.nisenb...@ifrj.edu.br
>

Re: [Fis] Cho 2016 The social life of quarks

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Hi, Bob.
I like very much your analogies and  metaphors.
This is a characteristic of interdisciplinary scholars :-)
Rainer Bromme wrote a very intersting chapter in "Practice
Interdisciplinarity" book about the psychology cognitive of
Interdisciplinarity.
And I agree when he say "The discourse of interdisciplinarity enphasizes
the role of metaphors to explain how new insights can arise from the
interaction between different perspectives".
And this is happening many times in FIS list.

All the best.
And thanks all for the very interesting discussions in 2016.


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2016-01-16 13:59 GMT-02:00 Bob Logan :

> Stan et al - you honour me by asking the question. We know that matter
> (and here I do not include dark matter or dark energy) is made up of a
> small number of quarks and gluons. As we go higher and higher energy we
> will continue to create these "freaks of nature" freaks in the sense that
> we create the conditions for them to come into existence using our high
> energy colliders. I am sure they sometimes occur naturally in stars from
> time to time but they do not have any long term effects - they are a
> passing fancy, a novelty, and an amusing one at that. Perhaps they will
> help us understand the quark gluon interaction. The analogy I see with the
> transition from prokaryotes to eukaryotes that I sent to Malcolm was my
> indulging in scientific based poetry. BTW I teach an undergrad course since
> 1971 called the Poetry of Physics (also the title of a book available on
> Amazon) to teach physics to humanities students without using math to
> promote science literacy among humanists.
>
> Another analogy that came to mind was that of proliferation of nucleic
> acids made up of the same 4 elements: C, G, A, and T.  They are the quarks
> of biology and their chemical bonds the gluons.
>
> Metaphorically your - Bob Logan
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>
> Robert K. Logan
> Prof. Emeritus - Physics - U. of Toronto
> Fellow University of St. Michael's College
> Chief Scientist - sLab at OCAD
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> www.researchgate.net/profile/Robert_Logan5/publications
>
> On 2016-01-16, at 10:33 AM, Stanley N Salthe wrote:
>
> One way to complicate anything is to smash it into bits.  I wonder, Bob,
> if you would comment on this point as a former particle physicist!
>
> STAN
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Malcolm Dean 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes. I don't know enough about Biology, but I noticed the 3+2 business
>> some time ago. I'm automatically suspicious of theories which are "vexingly
>> complex" (QCD) and only "beautiful" (String Theory) to a few people with
>> certain math backgrounds. But the Two and the Three have been important to
>> humans for thousands of years. I think Nature is actually very simple, but
>> we get overwhelmed and confused by its enormous scales and by our attempts
>> to manage observation by (necessarily) creating over-simplified Objects.
>>
>> M.
>>
>> *Malcolm Dean*
>> *Member*, Higher Cognitive Affinity Group, BRI
>> <http://www.bri.ucla.edu/research/affinity-groups/higher-cognitive-function-in-neural-integration-affinity-group>
>> *Research Affiliate*, Human Complex Systems, UCLA
>> <http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Malcolm_Dean>
>> *Member*, BAFTA/LA <http://baftala.org/>
>> *On Google Scholar
>> <http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ZopY3eQJ&hl=en>*
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Bob Logan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> eukaryote came about by two prokaryotes joining together and 5 quark
>>> combo can be thought of as a nucleon (3 quarks) and a meson(2quarks)
>>> combining and the 4 quqrk state as 2 mesons combining. By this logic
>>> perhaps there will be  6 quark beast if 2 nucleons combine.
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 2016-01-15, at 4:17 PM, Malcolm Dean wrote:
>>>
>>> Could you specify the relata?
>>>
>>> Malcolm
>>> On Jan 15, 2016 5:31 AM, "Bob Logan"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Malcolm - thanks for this article that supports my notion that my
>>>> former field of particle physics is becoming like biology. The 4 and 5
>>>> quark combos represent an analogy of the transition in biology from
>>>> prokaryotes to eukaryotes. :-) - Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2016-01-14, at 7:39 PM, Malcolm Dean wrote:
>>

Re: [Fis] Communication between quarks – pragmatical point of view

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

; memes, etc. You have oceans of interacting fermions and bosons
>>> around, but the new communicating phenomenology is only found in
>>> our minuscule planet.
>>>
>>> As an explanatory metaphor, it is not a good idea, almost wrong I
>>> dare say. But as a free-wheeling, literary metaphor it belongs to
>>> the author's choice. The problem is that both realms of
>>> information, so to speak, have relatively overlapping components,
>>> depending on the explanatory framework used (see the ongoing
>>> exchanges by Stan, John, Terry,  etc.) And that kind of apparent
>>> homogenization blurs the effort to establish the distinctions and
>>> advance in a unifying perspective (I think!!). In any case, it
>>> deserves more discussion. In your Jan. 14th message you ad more
>>> elements--I will think twice!.
>>>
>>> All the best--Pedro
>>>
>>> PS. Clarifying the two messages per week rule (responding to
>>> offline quests): the two messages should be counted along the
>>> "international business week": starting on Monday until the end of
>>> Sunday, Greenwich Time. Thanks to all for respecting this
>>> "boundary condition"!
>>>
>>>
>>
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[Fis] Shouldn't we talk in FIS about LIGO and Gravitational Waves experimental measures and informational consequences?

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Dear FISers.

Yesterday LIGO ( Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory)
announced, for the first time, the detection of Gravitational Waves
predicted by Einstein 100 years ago.
Wouldn't be Gravitational Waves a good discussion in FIS?
We all know that regular waves can carry information. Can gravitational
waves carry  information? Which kind?
Panelists (I saw some videos) say that "gravitational waves carry
information about astronomical phenomena never before observed by human".
The question is: is it possible to "modulate" some information in
gravitational waves?
I found at Scopus 17 articles containing "information" and "gravitational
waves" in title, so I think that people are working around this...
I think that it is a very important moment in history of science and it is
extremely related with 'information'.

Surely we  have colleagues (specialists) in FIS that can share interesting
thoughts about this theme.
I talked with Pedro about, and he agree we may have a discussion about
after two that are scheduled.
So, this message is not for starting a discussion. It is only to register
this fabulous new way that, we have now, to 'listen' the universe.

Links:
http://www.ligo.org/news/media-advisory.php
https://ligo.caltech.edu/
https://www.advancedligo.mit.edu/
http://www.ligo.org/
https://www.ligo.org/partners.php

Um abraço!
Moisés

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Re: [Fis] The phenomenology of life

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

op' arising from
> criticality specifically fulfils his hypothesis in a new and potent way.
> (The material contains so many points that this, to my mind, really
> significant one may have got buried.)
>
> Thank you also for appreciating the amplification of Tononi's contribution
> (Tononi, I personally regard as of real significance). The internal loop
> creates
> the internal coherence that is required to form the 'integrated
> information'.
>
> I have a suspicion that the following propositions are probably correct:
> a. any information structure that is truly 'non-reductive'
> (Chalmers requirement 3) must possess long range coherence.
> b. any information structure with long-range coherence will be a form of
> integrated information.
> c. Hence Chalmers requirement 3 in fact specifies integrative information.
> This sequence a, b, c simplifies what those writing in the 1990's were
> saying:
> they were in fact setting equivalent requirements on the form of
> 'experience information'
> (though Tononi undoubtedly thought he was saying something different, as
> did those who followed up on his work, and Chalmers did not realize that
> Tononi's proposal was equivaent to the point that he had proposed.
>
> Anyone's thoughts on this would be very much appreciated,
> All best wishes,
>
> Alex
>
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Re: [Fis] "Mechanical Information" in DNA

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Hi, John. It is amazing!!
I would like to highlight the word "constraints" at the caption of the DNA
diagram (http://phys.org/news/2016-06-layer-dna.html)
"The rigid base-pair model is forced, using 28 *constraints *(indicated by
red spheres), into a lefthanded superhelical path that mimics the DNA
conformation in the nucleosome. Credit: Leiden Institute of Physics"
The same word is used by Bob Logan and Stuart Kauffman to relate mechanical
concepts with 'information' (http://philpapers.org/rec/KAUPOA)
Could it have any parallel between these two approaches?

Also, you usually think "DNA" associated with Biological Sciences, but this
research is made at Leiden Institute of *Physics*! Of course, to work
current (complex, innovative) science you must have an interdisciplinary
approach.

Abraço.

Moisés

2016-06-08 16:40 GMT-03:00 John Collier :

> A previously hypothesized “second layer” of information in DNA may have
> been isolated.
>
>
>
> http://phys.org/news/2016-06-layer-dna.html
>
>
>
> John Collier
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Re: [Fis] What is Information? - Propagating Organization in the Biosphere, the Symbolosphere, the Technosphere and the Econosphere

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Hi, Bob.
It is an awesome book! I read the Portuguese version.
I am happy to know that it is available online for everyone :-)

Kind regards.

Moisés


2016-06-15 18:21 GMT-03:00 Bob Logan :

> Dear FIS colleagues - I received three complimentary emails re my paper,
> Propagating Organization: An Enquiry, the paper I wrote with Stuart
> Kauffman and others and which I shared with the list. As a result  I
> thought some of you might be interested in the book I wrote based on that
> paper entitled *What is Information? - Propagating Organization in the
> Biosphere, the Symbolosphere, the Technosphere and the Econosphere *with
> a foreword written by Terry Deacon.
>
> The ebook version of the books available for free at demopublishing.com.
> Please feel free to have a look at it and grab a copy of it - Thanks - Bob
> Logan
>
>
> __
>
> Robert K. Logan
> Prof. Emeritus - Physics - U. of Toronto
> Fellow University of St. Michael's College
> Chief Scientist - sLab at OCAD
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Re: [Fis] FIS Survey for PhD research.

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Pedro, thank you for introducing my PhD Survey
<http://moisesandre.com.br/survey/index.php/772769?lang=en> to the members
of FIS mailing list.

Dear FISers.

I've been following the discussions in FIS mailing list since February
2015. The content of the discussions are very important to my research. The
aim of this survey is to collect some data about you, your research and
your ideas about Information and Information Science.

The link to survey is:
<http://moisesandre.com.br/survey/index.php/772769?lang=en>

http://moisesandre.com.br/survey/index.php/772769?lang=en

It takes about 15 minutes to answer the questions.

Thank you very much!

Kind regards,

Moisés André Nisenbaum





More information about my PhD research (same text is on the first page of
survey)

Project Title: Interdisciplinarity between Physics and Information Science

Researcher: Moisés André Nisenbaum – Phone: +55(21)994395779 - e-mail:
moises.nisenb...@ifrj.edu.br

Institution: Instituto Brasileiro de Informação em Ciência e Tecnologia
(IBICT), in partnership with Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro (UFRJ)



Dear Researcher,

We are asking you to consider taking part in the research study
Interdisciplinarity between Physics and Information Science supervised by
Dr. Lena Vania Ribeiro Pinheiro – PhD (IBICT/UFRJ) and Dr. Jose Abdalla
HELAYEL - Neto – PhD (CBPF).

The aim of this Project is to investigate words, expressions and methods of
Physics that are present in scientific communications of Information
Science.

One of the Project’s sources of data will be this survey with members of
Foundations of Information Science (FIS) mailing list.

Your participation is voluntary and consists of answering questions on this
online survey. It will take between 15 - 20 minutes. Your responses will be
confidential and all data will be stored in a password-protected electronic
database. Survey results will be part of my PhD thesis, and will be
presented at conferences and published in scientific journals.



Thank you very much.

Moisés André Nisenbaum (PhD Candidate at IBICT/UFRJ)

2016-07-22 13:05 GMT-03:00 PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ <
pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es>:

>
> Dear FIS Colleagues,
>
> A member of our list, Moises Andre Nisenbaum, is investigating for his PhD
> the interdisciplinary links between Physics and Information Science. One of
> the data sources of his empirical research is the FIS mailing list itself.
> Because of this, he wants to directly ask list members, as well as filling
> in a questionnaire. Would you help him to make this request? He will
> publish the directions in the list.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --Pedro
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Re: [Fis] Fwd: Information Cultures in the Digital Age

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Pedro, undoubtedly is an excellent book! My supervisor is one of the
authors and I followed the book edition. I can assure you it was done very
carefully and that the authors were very well chosen.
It is a well-deserved tribute to the great scientist, philosopher and
friend Rafael.
By the way, it has to do with Rafael's birthday, but I will not reveal the
age :-)

Regards

Moisés

2016-07-25 8:34 GMT-03:00 Pedro C. Marijuan :

> Dear FIS Colleagues,
>
> I think this new book to appear celebrating our colleague Rafael Capurro
> can be of interest.
>
> Best--Pedro
>
> --
>
>
> New book to be published by Springer in July 2016.
> *Information Cultures in the Digital Age: A Festschrift in Honor of Rafael
> Capurro *(Edited by Matthew Kelly & Jared Bielby)
>
> For several decades Rafael Capurro has been at the forefront of defining
> the relationship between information and modernity through both
> phenomenological and ethical formulations. In exploring both of these
> themes Capurro has re-vivified the transcultural and intercultural
> expressions of how we bring an understanding of information to bear on
> scientific knowledge production and intermediation. Capurro has long
> stressed the need to look deeply into how we contextualize the information
> problems that scientific society creates for us and to re-incorporate a
> pragmatic dimension into our response that provides a balance to the
> cognitive turn in information science.
>
> With contributions from 35 scholars from 15 countries,* Information
> Cultures in the Digital Age* focuses on the culture and philosophy of
> information, information ethics, the relationship of information to
> message, the historic and semiotic understanding of information, the
> relationship of information to power and the future of information
> education. This Festschrift seeks to celebrate Rafael Capurro’s important
> contribution to a global dialogue on how information conceptualisation, use
> and technology impact human culture and the ethical questions that arise
> from this dynamic relationship.
>
> The Editors: Matthew Kelly is a scholar at Curtin University’s Department
> of Information Studies and at the International Institute for
> Hermeneutics. Jared Bielby currently serves as Co-Chair for the
> International Center for Information Ethics and Editor for the
> International Review of Information Ethics.
> More information at www.infoculturesbook.com
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[Fis] FIS Survey for PhD research - reminder

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Dear FISers.
About one month ago I asked you to considere taking part in my research
study about Interdisciplinarity between Physics and Information Science, by
answering an online survey.
Firstly I would like to thank very much to the eight colleagues that
answered the questionnaire!
Respondents took about 15 minutes to answer the questions.
I know it is difficult to like questionnaires :-) But I need more responses
to my research, so I kindly ask you again to answer this short survey about
your research, the FIS list and the concepts of Information and Information
Science.

The survey link is:
http://moisesandre.com.br/survey/index.php/772769?lang=en


Thank you very much!!!

Um abraço,

Moisés.

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[Fis] Fwd: FIS Survey for PhD research - with upload references feature

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Dear FISers.
Following Joseph's suggestion, you can use the form below if you wish to
upload a file with your references.

http://moisesandre.com.br/survey/index.php/956478?lang=en

Thank you.

Best,

Moisés.


-- Forwarded message --
From: Joseph Brenner 
Date: 2016-08-26 16:15 GMT-03:00
Subject: Re: [Fis] FIS Survey for PhD research - suggestion
To: Moisés André Nisenbaum 


Dear Moises,

I sympathize with your problem, but I have one idea of why you got so few
responses. There is no up-load feature for the page on publications and
some people are too busy to generate a new list. Do you think you could add
this?

Best,

Joseph

- Original Message -
*From:* Moisés André Nisenbaum 
*To:* fis 
*Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2016 1:24 PM
*Subject:* [Fis] FIS Survey for PhD research - reminder

Dear FISers.
About one month ago I asked you to considere taking part in my research
study about Interdisciplinarity between Physics and Information Science, by
answering an online survey.
Firstly I would like to thank very much to the eight colleagues that
answered the questionnaire!
Respondents took about 15 minutes to answer the questions.
I know it is difficult to like questionnaires :-) But I need more responses
to my research, so I kindly ask you again to answer this short survey about
your research, the FIS list and the concepts of Information and Information
Science.

The survey link is: http://moisesandre.com.br/survey/index.php/772769?lang=
en


Thank you very much!!!

Um abraço,

Moisés.

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[Fis] FIS Survey for PhD research - closing on Monday

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Dear FISers.
My PhD survey will be closed on next Monday (Sep, 19th)
I want to thank the colleagues that answered the questionnaire and
also thanks for the comments.
For those who didn't have time, would you please send me your
Curriculum Vitae (CV)? I can extract many data from it.
The survey report will be 100% anonymous and I will send it to FIS
mailing list as soon it be done.

Pedro, thank you for your support!

Thanks, everybody.

Um abraço,

Moisés

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Re: [Fis] Scientific Communication and Publishing

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Dear Mark.

Thank you for the excelent video and article. It is very important to
discuss this and, if you agree, I will use your video with my students
(can you send me the transcription?).
No doubt we are in a changing world and we have to fight against
abusive processes, like publication industry.

In Rafael's article, the question “what is a scientific journal in the
digital age?” I understand that we must think outside the box. I think
it would be great if some group invent a kind of "Uber" of scientific
production. Something that connect directly authors and readers at
feasible rates.  arXiv does this connection in some way, but it is not
universal. E-science is also a good initiative.

Related to this discussion, UNESCO will do an event on Wednesday
(sep/28th) at Museu do Amanhã (Rio de Janeiro) called International
Day for Universal Access to Information
(http://en.unesco.org/iduai2016).

But the fact is: we are human and the worry about "reputation" is the
real reason of today's organization of scientific communication (about
this, this book chapter is very good: VAN RAAN, Anthony FJ. The
interdisciplinary nature of science: theoretical framework and
bibliometric-empirical approach. Practising interdisciplinarity, p.
66-78, 2000.)

Kind regards,

Moisés



2016-09-26 4:55 GMT-03:00 Mark Johnson :
>
> Dear FIS Colleagues,
>
> To kick-start the discussion on scientific publishing, I have prepared
> a short (hopefully provocative) video. It can be found at:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bh3vqM98-U
>
> (if anyone's interested, the software I used for producing it is
> called 'Videoscribe')
>
> I have also produced a paper which is attached.
>
> I hope you find these interesting and stimulating!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Mark
> --
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> Institute of Learning and Teaching
> Faculty of Health and Life Sciences
> University of Liverpool
>
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Re: [Fis] 11,359 journal maps in a hierarchical classification system; (my second penny for this week)

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Loet,
Thank you for your article with (as usual) excellent and beautiful maps and
explanation. And also the "open box" at http://www.leydesdorff.net/jcr15/
I think that this kind of output analysis is very important to understand
the dynamics of the connections between knowledge areas.
But what about the input and the process analysis of scientific
communication?
How to measure the interactivity of areas during the research (before
publishing)? I think it will be possible as soon as e-science became a
reality (and we are going this way - see http://en.unesco.org/iduai2016)
Also, it would be great if the informal scientific communications (like
FIS) was indexed so we could generate similar maps of the "process" :-)

Best
Moisés.



2016-10-16 8:00 GMT-02:00 Loet Leydesdorff :

> Clustered Journal Maps <https://arxiv.org/abs/1610.03779>
>
> *Loet Leydesdorff, Lutz Bornmann, and Caroline S. Wagner*
>
>
>
> Journal maps for 11,359 journals listed in the combined Journal Citation
> Reports 2015 of the Science and Social Sciences Citation Indexes are
> provided at www.leydesdorff.net/jcr15 . A routine using VOSviewer for
> integrating the journal mapping and their hierarchical clustering is also
> made available. In this short communication, we provide background on the
> journal mapping/clustering and an explanation and instructions about the
> routine.
>
>
>
> Available at https://arxiv.org/abs/1610.03779 ; maps at
> http://www.leydesdorff.net/jcr15
>
>
> --
>
> Loet Leydesdorff
>
> Professor, University of Amsterdam
> Amsterdam School of Communication Research (ASCoR)
>
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Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Dear FISers.

I was very excited with the John’s first message informing that a group of
scientists is discussing again the role of Information in Physics.


The high impact on FIS list of John’s post (13 replies from different
persons in 2 days) shows that it is yet an open discussion. Thank you all
for the very interesting posts :-)

The works (not interdisciplinary nor reductionist) of Tom Stonier (1991),
Holger Lyre (1995) and Carl Friedrich Von Weizsäcker, et. Al (2006) and
many discussions on this list (
http://fis.sciforum.net/fis-discussion-sessions/) are also about this
theme.


Scientific American article is an introduction. So I went to the source of
the project named “It from Qubit: Simons Collaboration on Quantum Fields,
Gravity, and Information.

Home page:
https://www.simonsfoundation.org/mathematics-and-physical-science/it-from-qubit-simons-collaboration-on-quantum-fields-gravity-and-information/

Overview: http://web.stanford.edu/~phayden/simons/overview.pdf

Project: http://web.stanford.edu/~phayden/simons/simons-proposal.pdf



Mainly, it is an Interdisciplinary Resarch group trying to approximate
Fundamental Physics from Quantum Information, so I think that it is a good
and necessary initiative. Imagine what we can “extract” from this two
fields working together!



They have several projects, but I think that the final goals is not as
important as the revelations of the processes. We should look at the
projects. Maybe we can find that, after all, the title “it from qbit” was
only a “marketing” (bad?) choice :-)


Kind regards,


Moisés


References:

STONIER, T. *Towards a new theory of information*. Journal of Information
Science. *Anais*...1991Disponível em:
http://www.scopus.com/inward/record.url?eid=2-s2.0-0026386595&partnerID=tZOtx3y1

“Information science is badly in need of an information theory. The paper
discusses both the need, and the possibility of developing such a theory
based on the assumption that information is a basic property of the
universe.”


LYRE, H. Quantum theory of Ur-objects as a theory of information.
*International
Journal of Theoretical Physics*, v. 34, n. 8, p. 1541–1552, ago. 1995.

“The quantum theory of ur-objects proposed by C. F. von Weizsäcker has to
be interpreted as a quantum theory of information.”


WEIZSÄCKER, C. F. VON; GÖRNITZ, T.; LYRE, H. *The structure of
physics*. Dordrecht:
Springer, 2006.

“the idea of a quantum theory of binary alternatives (the so-called
ur-theory), a unified quantum theoretical framework in which spinorial
symmetry groups are considered to give rise to the structure of space and
time.”

2016-11-03 16:52 GMT-02:00 John Collier :

> Apparently some physicists think so.
>
>
>
> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/tangled-up-in-
> spacetime/?WT.mc_id=SA_WR_20161102
>
>
>
> John Collier
>
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>
> Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal
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[Fis] Is anyone interested in writing in this book?

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

I received this invitation. It is not my specific area, so I decided to
share in FIS list.

Call for Chapters: Applied Quantum Theory in Information Sciences
http://www.igi-global.com/publish/call-for-papers/call-details/2545

Abraços!
Moisés

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[Fis] I finished my thesis work. The defense was March, 21th - Thank you very much to all list members :-)

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Dear FISers.
Finally I finished my doctorate work :-)
The FIS' list messages, the survey and the interviews was very important
data sources of my research.
This mailing list, and it's members, are amazing! :-)
Thank you all, very much!!!

Among other things, I was able to classify and group more than 5000
messages posted from 1997 to 2016 and found that the most discussed topic
was Information and Physics. But there are ohter interesting things :-)
I'm going to submit an extended abstract for IS4SI with some of the results.
If anyone wants to know more details, please contact me.

Special thanks to my friend Rafael, for introducing FIS to me, to Pedro for
the support and incentive and to Bob Logan for the many conversations and
the excellent reception at Toronto.

Um abraço!!!

Moisés

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Re: [Fis] Can the can drink beer ? - No way!

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Re: [Fis] Toward a Calculus of Redundancy: Signification, Codification, and Anticipation in Cultural Evolution; preprint

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Hi, Loet.
Thank you for your message!
Firstly because there was no FIS messages since IS4SI...
I was wondering, what could be happening?

I have read your article. It is amazing!
I liked the way you've organized historically the relationship between the
concept of information in a multidimensional perspective.
Certainly I will use it for my research and will recommend to my colegues
and students :-)

Thank you,

Um abraço
Moisés


2017-09-03 11:06 GMT-03:00 Loet Leydesdorff :

> *Toward a Calculus of Redundancy:
> <https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3030525>*
> *Signification, Codification, and Anticipation in Cultural Evolution
> <https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3030525>*
>
> Loet Leydesdorff, Mark W. Johnson, and Inga Ivanova
>
> *Abstract*
> Whereas the generation of Shannon-type information is coupled to the
> second law of thermodynamics, redundancy—that is, the complement of
> information to the maximum entropy—can be increased by making further
> distinctions. The dynamics of discursive knowledge production can thus
> infuse the historical dynamics with a cultural evolution. Providing the
> information with meaning first proliferates the number of options. Meanings
> are provided with hindsight at positions in the vector space, as against
> relations in the network space. The main axes (eigenvectors) of the vector
> space map the codes of the communication spanning horizons of meaning; the
> codes structure the communications as selection mechanisms. Unlike
> hard-wired DNA, the codes of non-biological systems co-evolve with the
> variation. Discursive knowledge can be considered as meta-coded
> communication which enables us to entertain models of the processing of
> meaning and information. This reinforces the hindsight perspective and can
> turn codification reflexively into coding anticipation. The dynamics of
> information, meaning, and knowledge can be evaluated empirically using the
> sign of mutual information as an indicator.
>
> ** apologies for cross-postings
> https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3030525
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> --
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> Loet Leydesdorff
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> Professor, University of Amsterdam
> Amsterdam School of Communication Research (ASCoR)
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> l...@leydesdorff.net ; http://www.leydesdorff.net/
> Associate Faculty, SPRU, <http://www.sussex.ac.uk/spru/>University of
> Sussex;
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> Guest Professor Zhejiang Univ. <http://www.zju.edu.cn/english/>,
> Hangzhou; Visiting Professor, ISTIC,
> <http://www.istic.ac.cn/Eng/brief_en.html>Beijing;
>
> Visiting Fellow, Birkbeck <http://www.bbk.ac.uk/>, University of London;
> http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYAAAAJ&hl=en
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[Fis] A very small survey about your Research Area for an article to World Scientific Volume on the Study of Information Vol 1.

[Moisés André Nisenbaum]

Dear FISers.

First of all: Happy New Year

At IS4SI 2017 me and my colleagues have made a small report with a
classification of the messages exchanged in FIS mailing list -
http://www.mdpi.com/2504-3900/1/3/205

At that time, we've searched each one of you at Scopus Author Search to
build a limited scientific profile of FIS list authors.

Now that we will have the opportunity to publish a bigger report of the
same study at World Scientific Volume, *we are asking you 2 minutes to
inform us your Research Areas.*

I know surveys are, in general, boring, but I promise this one is very very
short :-)

We would appreciate if you would answer this survey *as soon as you receive
this message*, because we have a short deadline to send the article (Jan
15th).

*Link to survey:*
*https://goo.gl/forms/ApYIzFupLdewtZlo2
<https://goo.gl/forms/ApYIzFupLdewtZlo2>*

Thank you very much!!!

Um abraço,
Moisés.


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