Dear FISers. I was very excited with the John’s first message informing that a group of scientists is discussing again the role of Information in Physics.
The high impact on FIS list of John’s post (13 replies from different persons in 2 days) shows that it is yet an open discussion. Thank you all for the very interesting posts :-) The works (not interdisciplinary nor reductionist) of Tom Stonier (1991), Holger Lyre (1995) and Carl Friedrich Von Weizsäcker, et. Al (2006) and many discussions on this list ( http://fis.sciforum.net/fis-discussion-sessions/) are also about this theme. Scientific American article is an introduction. So I went to the source of the project named “It from Qubit: Simons Collaboration on Quantum Fields, Gravity, and Information. Home page: https://www.simonsfoundation.org/mathematics-and-physical-science/it-from-qubit-simons-collaboration-on-quantum-fields-gravity-and-information/ Overview: http://web.stanford.edu/~phayden/simons/overview.pdf Project: http://web.stanford.edu/~phayden/simons/simons-proposal.pdf Mainly, it is an Interdisciplinary Resarch group trying to approximate Fundamental Physics from Quantum Information, so I think that it is a good and necessary initiative. Imagine what we can “extract” from this two fields working together! They have several projects, but I think that the final goals is not as important as the revelations of the processes. We should look at the projects. Maybe we can find that, after all, the title “it from qbit” was only a “marketing” (bad?) choice :-) Kind regards, Moisés References: STONIER, T. *Towards a new theory of information*. Journal of Information Science. *Anais*...1991Disponível em: http://www.scopus.com/inward/record.url?eid=2-s2.0-0026386595&partnerID=tZOtx3y1 “Information science is badly in need of an information theory. The paper discusses both the need, and the possibility of developing such a theory based on the assumption that information is a basic property of the universe.” LYRE, H. Quantum theory of Ur-objects as a theory of information. *International Journal of Theoretical Physics*, v. 34, n. 8, p. 1541–1552, ago. 1995. “The quantum theory of ur-objects proposed by C. F. von Weizsäcker has to be interpreted as a quantum theory of information.” WEIZSÄCKER, C. F. VON; GÖRNITZ, T.; LYRE, H. *The structure of physics*. Dordrecht: Springer, 2006. “the idea of a quantum theory of binary alternatives (the so-called ur-theory), a unified quantum theoretical framework in which spinorial symmetry groups are considered to give rise to the structure of space and time.” 2016-11-03 16:52 GMT-02:00 John Collier <colli...@ukzn.ac.za>: > Apparently some physicists think so. > > > > https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/tangled-up-in- > spacetime/?WT.mc_id=SA_WR_20161102 > > > > John Collier > > Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate > > Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal > > http://web.ncf.ca/collier > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fis mailing list > Fis@listas.unizar.es > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > > -- Moisés André Nisenbaum Doutorando IBICT/UFRJ. Professor. Msc. Instituto Federal do Rio de Janeiro - IFRJ Campus Rio de Janeiro moises.nisenb...@ifrj.edu.br
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